Darren, you're an Absolute Legend Mate! The Missus ( Bassist ) likes to have a big Low Bottom End ( He He ) whilst experimenting with crazy Noisy Fuzz n Whammy effects on top. You've explained it perfectly. Thank you so much....Any complaints from the neighbours I'll send your way ;-) Love the channel n your overall vibe btw, Hope yer don't mind me saying that even though tho I'm a guitarist :p
Dude - send the neighbours my way and I'll have them converted in no time 😂 Thanks for the kind words my friend... And... Don't tell anyone... But I play guitar also 😉😉😉 but your missus does have better taste!
@@DarrenSMusic You use the 6 Strings And 4 Strings, Well I never heard such poppycock, security! arrest this man! 😂next thing you'll tell me you made the bass sound like a guitar...he he ( saw that vid as well, pretty freakin' awesome ) found ya via Jason Sadites, I love how the Tone Nerd community finds each other \m/
@@iresentdoingthis1550 Hang on, hang on.... 6, 5 and 4 strings... I'll also use 3, 2 and 1 as required 😂 That Jason Sadites response was unexpected and brilliant! Couldn't have asked for better truth be told! Aye, we're a funny old bunch, us tone/gear nerds
Well done! I can’t find a chorus I like, always gets too muddy. A crossover split should fix me right up. And I have had similar issues finding a distortion that doesn’t get fizzy and kill my low end. Solid edit and content!
AWESOME VID DAZ!!!! Informative (even for a dumbass drummer like myself) and a bit of cheeky humour thrown in. What is anything without a bit of a laugh right? The freq-split method makes lots of sense, coming from a sound engineer stand point. Little discerning effect happens under the 250Hz mark, so yeah, keep that shit clean and bassy and FX up anything above... you get your effects and that sweet sweet bass, to quote you. Keep em coming!
Great video!!! So... Stomp XL owner here, I can split in 2 chains using the split crossover function... I use 5 string basses, around 200/250 as a value could do the trick then??? Chain 1 with direct signal (compressed, ok...) and chain 2 with distortion when needed, chorus and a bit o reverb
Exactly that! It’s always worked wonders for me. Sometimes you need to adjust the level on either side before summing back into one, but it still works!
I bought a Boss GT1000 core and the same principles than the Line 6 can be applied in order to split the signal...but the crossover split works in a different way in the Boss. It's a y-split by default and you can set different splitting frequency to every channel or just one of them (it's a Low/High cut actually) . Besides this, the cut frequencies are fixed in several points. It's less flexible than the Line6 but it works too
Can I ask what those frequency points are? I imagine if it's in the low miss it shouldn't be much of an issue for bass. I'm yet to try a GT1000 Core, however as all in all it did seem less flexible from everything I looked at online
Any ideas for a workaround with the Line 6 POD Go? Got the POD GO as a gift because it was advertised as great for bass, which it really doesn't seem to be at all. :/
very helpful im new to the Helix products and actually somewhat new to Bass Dont let the 7 basses fool you lol. Really I am new. So right now i use a Mesa Subway D800+ and Cab great amp alone and I also run a Dark glass Compressor and Alpha Omega with it. Simple right? Well now I have a Helix HX Effects I'm trying out from a local shop I deal with a lot hence the 7 basses they like me there haha. Anyways What Helix product would be best suited to my needs of getting my compressor use the Omega used i found with the HX Effects was tricky to do a bit as i had to give up my effect loops so i could run to different paths to two different devices. AMP being one interface or FOH would be the other. so right now to kinda get around this i put the Omega in the out to AMP and the compressor before the HX effects. With Model like stomp or XL or eve the LT would there be a better way to achieve this ideally id like the Darkglass Pedal in both signal chains in the send chain I was a cab sim and effect My D800 I want more for a monitor or just working in new songs and keep it clean. Any thoughts suggestion or a point in the right direction would be very helpful .awesome video and yes i defiantly stuck to the end it was very informative
I'd say that the easiest way to achieve this would be to run everything as normal directly into the HX - DK pedals and all. As the HX supports IRs, add an IR last in the chain. Directly before that, run an FX send block and cable this to your amp. On the block itself, set it to a 50/50 split, meaning the same level of signal will route to your amp and then after that it would hit the IR to go to your direct path such as a DI or a sound desk.
Hey dude. I'm really interested in getting something like this set up. I've been going back and fore between the helix setup and doing it with a KMA Tyler and stomp boxes. Which would you recommend? I already own a chorus, comp, SansAmp BDDI and a fuzz/distortion.
Hey Ash! Honestly, it'll be down to preference. I'm still inclined to use the Helix for the most part, purely because of the options available. The great thing about the Helix is that I can apply a split crossover to an effects loop or just a normal AB or Y split, the same as can be done with stomboxes. The Tyler is a fantastic option for stompbox tweaking.
Darren, you're an Absolute Legend Mate! The Missus ( Bassist ) likes to have a big Low Bottom End ( He He ) whilst experimenting with crazy Noisy Fuzz n Whammy effects on top. You've explained it perfectly. Thank you so much....Any complaints from the neighbours I'll send your way ;-) Love the channel n your overall vibe btw, Hope yer don't mind me saying that even though tho I'm a guitarist :p
Dude - send the neighbours my way and I'll have them converted in no time 😂
Thanks for the kind words my friend... And... Don't tell anyone... But I play guitar also 😉😉😉 but your missus does have better taste!
@@DarrenSMusic You use the 6 Strings And 4 Strings, Well I never heard such poppycock, security! arrest this man! 😂next thing you'll tell me you made the bass sound like a guitar...he he ( saw that vid as well, pretty freakin' awesome ) found ya via Jason Sadites, I love how the Tone Nerd community finds each other \m/
@@iresentdoingthis1550 Hang on, hang on....
6, 5 and 4 strings... I'll also use 3, 2 and 1 as required 😂
That Jason Sadites response was unexpected and brilliant! Couldn't have asked for better truth be told!
Aye, we're a funny old bunch, us tone/gear nerds
I absolutely love the way you explain how a crossover works.
Thank you! I tried to do so as I would like to hear it
Thank you for explaining the different signal split capabilities of the Helix!
You are most welcome. Thanks for checking it out!
Thank Darren for the time you take to help us all.
Really, really useful.
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
Well done! I can’t find a chorus I like, always gets too muddy. A crossover split should fix me right up. And I have had similar issues finding a distortion that doesn’t get fizzy and kill my low end. Solid edit and content!
Hey Paul!
Glad to be of service, my friend!!
Great sounds and very helpful. Thanks!
You're welcome, Kevin, and thank you!
This is good info. I plan to give it a go. Thanks!
You're welcome - and thank for checking it out!
Outstanding. DaZ
Thank you my friend, as always!
thanks for sharing this, keep the good work
Many thanks, my friend, and you are welcome!
AWESOME VID DAZ!!!! Informative (even for a dumbass drummer like myself) and a bit of cheeky humour thrown in. What is anything without a bit of a laugh right?
The freq-split method makes lots of sense, coming from a sound engineer stand point. Little discerning effect happens under the 250Hz mark, so yeah, keep that shit clean and bassy and FX up anything above... you get your effects and that sweet sweet bass, to quote you.
Keep em coming!
Thank you Steve!!
Glad it's liked haha. Yeah I do most things with the frequency split because as you say, it just makes sense!
Great video!!! So... Stomp XL owner here, I can split in 2 chains using the split crossover function... I use 5 string basses, around 200/250 as a value could do the trick then??? Chain 1 with direct signal (compressed, ok...) and chain 2 with distortion when needed, chorus and a bit o reverb
Exactly that! It’s always worked wonders for me. Sometimes you need to adjust the level on either side before summing back into one, but it still works!
GreatVid , split crossover sounded brill and I'll be trying to replicate on my Kemper
Not tried a Kemper properly but I imagine it may be a possibility! Keep me posted?
I bought a Boss GT1000 core and the same principles than the Line 6 can be applied in order to split the signal...but the crossover split works in a different way in the Boss. It's a y-split by default and you can set different splitting frequency to every channel or just one of them (it's a Low/High cut actually) . Besides this, the cut frequencies are fixed in several points.
It's less flexible than the Line6 but it works too
Can I ask what those frequency points are? I imagine if it's in the low miss it shouldn't be much of an issue for bass. I'm yet to try a GT1000 Core, however as all in all it did seem less flexible from everything I looked at online
Any ideas for a workaround with the Line 6 POD Go? Got the POD GO as a gift because it was advertised as great for bass, which it really doesn't seem to be at all. :/
Sorry for the delay my man! Yes you can use effects with clean blends - that worked for me as you can see in the Pod Go video I did a while back!
@@DarrenSMusic thx man!
Can you simulate a patch for Jeremy from pearljam?
OHHHH I know it's late but I cam certainly try! Unless Danny Sapko gets there first!
@F_bass13 Nice and easy hahaha. Thanks!
very helpful im new to the Helix products and actually somewhat new to Bass Dont let the 7 basses fool you lol. Really I am new. So right now i use a Mesa Subway D800+ and Cab great amp alone and I also run a Dark glass Compressor and Alpha Omega with it. Simple right? Well now I have a Helix HX Effects I'm trying out from a local shop I deal with a lot hence the 7 basses they like me there haha. Anyways What Helix product would be best suited to my needs of getting my compressor use the Omega used i found with the HX Effects was tricky to do a bit as i had to give up my effect loops so i could run to different paths to two different devices. AMP being one interface or FOH would be the other. so right now to kinda get around this i put the Omega in the out to AMP and the compressor before the HX effects. With Model like stomp or XL or eve the LT would there be a better way to achieve this ideally id like the Darkglass Pedal in both signal chains in the send chain I was a cab sim and effect My D800 I want more for a monitor or just working in new songs and keep it clean. Any thoughts suggestion or a point in the right direction would be very helpful .awesome video and yes i defiantly stuck to the end it was very informative
I'd say that the easiest way to achieve this would be to run everything as normal directly into the HX - DK pedals and all. As the HX supports IRs, add an IR last in the chain. Directly before that, run an FX send block and cable this to your amp. On the block itself, set it to a 50/50 split, meaning the same level of signal will route to your amp and then after that it would hit the IR to go to your direct path such as a DI or a sound desk.
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Hey dude. I'm really interested in getting something like this set up. I've been going back and fore between the helix setup and doing it with a KMA Tyler and stomp boxes. Which would you recommend? I already own a chorus, comp, SansAmp BDDI and a fuzz/distortion.
Hey Ash!
Honestly, it'll be down to preference.
I'm still inclined to use the Helix for the most part, purely because of the options available. The great thing about the Helix is that I can apply a split crossover to an effects loop or just a normal AB or Y split, the same as can be done with stomboxes.
The Tyler is a fantastic option for stompbox tweaking.
You sound like Ali G!
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