Guided tour through a Tupolev Tu-144 'Concordski' (includes the cockpit)
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- Join me in this guided tour of a Tupolev Tu-144 supersonic passenger airliner on display at the Technik Museum Sinsheim. It includes a tour around the cockpit
Technik Museum in Sinsheim: sinsheim.technik-museum.de (Tu-144, Concorde and others)
Technik Museum in Speyer: speyer.technik-museum.de/en/ (Buran, 747, An22 and others)
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0:00 introduction
0:49 start at the tail
1:20 engines - Kolesov RD-36-51 turbojets
3:30 double delta wing
5:30 landing gear
7:13 Auxiliary Power Unit
7:40 inside the cabin
10:50 cockpit - Наука
CORRECTION: apologies, I made an error with the comment about the final flight with NASA. It was actually in 1999 rather than 1997.
Although you call him "Concordski", this airplane saw the sky before Concord.
@@Captain22021971 yep, it was rushed into the air hence why one fell apart at the Paris airshow killing all onboard.
@@PaulStewartAviation By the time of the disaster, he had been flying for the fifth year. No one is immune from disasters. But you can't dispute the fact that the "copy" flew earlier than the imaginary original. And only an amateur does not see the difference between them.
@@PaulStewartAviationyes you're right. was a pre-test.
that happened then. but....
@@Captain22021971It saw the sky first only because the Soviet Government pressed them into beating the Concordes time line. So like typical Russian designs, they took short cuts and brushed off safety and efficiency concerns to meet a deadline.
A large part of why they were grounded from passenger service. The same service that had only one route with 55 total passenger flights.
LMAO, if the British hacked their Concorde together like that they would have flown years before the Russians even put a pencil on the drawing board. But real aircraft manufactures try to avoid building screeching lawn darts, even if it adds another 4 whole months to their build time.
I know which aircraft I'd choose to fly, and it wouldn't be the one that required ear plugs or afterburners to maintain cruising speeds. 😂
Edit: Spelling.
I landed in Frankfurt from Canada and drove to Stuttgart in a rental car. About s half way down, I saw a freaking Concord mounted on a roof of a building. I made a quick 3 hour stop to see all these planes. Best surprise of the trip.
I landed in Frankfurt from Canada specifically to go to this museum (among other things of course)
I recommend it to everyone I can
I always found the early navigation systems fascinating. In 1981, Honda actually offered a similar navigation system as a first in car GPS, you would feed it real paper maps of the area, and using an onboard gyroscope and a servo gear on the transmission, it would work out where you were at any time on the journey and move the map along accordingly, looking the same as a modern GPS later would. We take GPS for granted now, but it must have looked very futuristic at the time.
I was at LeBourget for the Air Salon the day 77102 went down. It was horrendous to see and I will never forget it.
It would have been awful to see in person
@@PaulStewartAviation its nothing I want to see again ever.
This is an incredible tour of the Tu-144! I am so grateful to Paul Stewart for giving us the opportunity to explore this unique aircraft. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise!
Many thanks!
That was not an aircraft.. It was flying coffin.
That's an amazing display with both aircraft next to one another and access to the cabins while they're mounted at that steep angle...but I really wish they weren't exposed to the elements.
space is limited and this looks cooler
They were designed to operate outside.
Fantastic display of both aircraft, refreshing to see them outside rather than shoved away in a glorified shed, which is so boring. As long as the custodians are prepared to look after them all aircraft should be outside.
Sad both these wonderful aircraft are outside and exposed to the elements. It would be nice to see them protected under cover for future generations.
id say they have some sort of anti rust paint on them
@@moldypizza__ They corrode…not rust!
It's funny you mention that. I was in New york last year and on top of the intrepid I seen the a-12, tomcat, concorde, and many others on the deck with peeling paint and yellowed plastics. I asked the guy running it why they weren't maintained he just said " everything has it's day" I was so excited to go see them but left with a tinge of sadness...
@@Sterlingjob I’m not a master of the elements mr genius
@@paulcronin551 IMO they not should have been allowed to take the Concorde exhibits without an undertaking to put them under cover.
The Victor V Bomber at UK’s Duxford museum is being restored and much of the restoration work is required as a result of it being left in the open air.
Spent eight years parking at the Autohof, when i could down the road. Could not get enough of the place.
One of the perks of being a truck driver.
Been on all the aircraft that were open to the public including the TU-144.
At one time i myself was taking flying lessons.
I've been there! One of the most fascinating museums I've ever had the privilege to visit. Toured both aircraft. This was back in 2009 so they were a little cleaner. What a shock comparing the cockpits of both planes.
When I was 15, my family went to Montreal for Expo67. On our last day there we visited the Soviet Pavillion and I saw a model of the 144. My first thought was that I was looking at a space plane, not the worlds first SST. Beautiful plane.
Never seen a TU-144 in person before, thanks for the guided look around the plane Paul! Amazing video!
Very nice! I think Sinsheim is one of the best aviation museums in the world, especially with the Tu-144 and Concorde together! I toured Concorde G-BSST in Yeovil and there are definitely some similarities between the two especially the cockpit windows.
I think the Yeovil display is probably the best. You can walk around it and poke around the open engine bays unrestricted. Very fun!
Couldn't give a monkeys about the Tu-144, it was a stolen design.
Have no interest in it.
you always should do a double visiting. sinsheim + speyer.
Cool video! Nice that they opened the cockpit for you! It would be pretty special sitting inside such a rare aircraft!
Done this one god knows how many times.
I was a trucker and stayed at the autohof yards away for years.
Never tired going there.
Still got my Auto & Technik Museum Sinsheim Das grosse museumsbuch.
The best dat out ever.
What an incredible display layout at this museum.
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Thanks for your video. I'm an enthusiast and this is the first time I see the details of the inside of a TU-144.
I was lucky enough to visit a Concorde in NYC Intrepid Museum.
Keep up the good work.
I've been to Technik Museum Sinsheim a few times years ago when i was younger, as i grew up relatively nearby. Watching this makes me wanna go again instantly
The different approaches the Soviets took to supersonic transports compared to the Concorde is just as fascinating as the similarities because it only makes sense that the two groups would arrive at the same solution to the same challenges.
Yes and the Soviet spies embedded in both England and France ensured this.
Both teams communicated up to some point. To some extent one can say that Concord is a “Tupolevski”
@@shoora813 The Soviets were in a mad dash to beat the Anglo-French Concorde into the air. In order to do so, the KGB spent a large amount of time pilfering Concorde blueprints. This is something the Concorde team was cognizant of and they passed on a lot of technical information to the KGB that was useless to their endeavors, such as blueprints with incorrect dimensions and drawings of systems that simply didn’t work. The Soviets had a few major problems on their hands.
The first was their desire to beat Concorde into the air. This forced them to adopt several inelegant solutions to their aerodynamic and power problems as they didn’t have the time to further engineer their aircraft in the time frame presented . An example of this was their wing design that was simplistic at best. Concorde’s wing looked simple but in fact, it was a complex marvel of design providing the plane with both high speed performance and an acceptable slow speed control-ability. The Soviet wing didn’t perform well at approach and landing speeds and they were forced to install retractable canards to improve this.
The second was that the Concorde team were working with a new and cutting edge engine, the Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus engine. This was the culmination of decades of advanced high performance engine design. This engine allowed Concorde to “super cruise” or cruise at Mach 2 speeds without the assistance of an afterburner (reheats for our UK friends). Yes, Concorde used an afterburner for transitioning through trans sonic speeds but didn’t require it for Mach 2 cruise. The Soviets, try as they might, didn’t have access to this technology. Soviet engine technology was still in its infancy and most of it was derived from an initial set of Rolls-Royce RB.41 Nene engines that the UK gave then in the late 1940s. This left the Soviets with the Kuznetsov NK-144. This engine compared to the Olympus was down right primitive and the TU-144 could only achieve and maintain supersonic speed with the afterburners lit. This swallowed up enormous amounts of fuel, hurting the aircraft’s range significantly. The engines also tended to become damaged by heat due to the constant use of the afterburners.
Finally, the interiors simply couldn’t match what the Concorde produced. The cabin Environmental systems were simplistic, flawed and often failed all together, making the cabin uncomfortably hot. In fact when the aircraft did begin its short career as a passenger aircraft most of the scheduled flights were canceled due to the environmental system breaking down. Another issue was that the Kuznetsov engines were very loud, that coupled with poor cabin insulation made the cabin uncomfortably loud and the few passengers that actually flew on the TU-144 wore earplugs!
The TU-144 wasn’t an abject failure. It is incredible what the Soviets were able to produce with the technology they had available to them. However, the jet was unreliable enough that it was never used on routes outside the USSR and was pulled out of service all together in 1978. - lifted from Quora.
@@shoora813 Concorde was in development well before the Tu-144.
@@shoora813the soviets rarely had original ideas. Most major accomplishments were stolen or copied.
Watching this now.
I am loving your detailed tour of this aircraft. We all love the Concorde, however this is an aircraft rarely explored in such close detail until this video!
It's fascinating to see that teal color of the cockpit on a civilian plane, because I associate it with Soviet military planes. The idea that it matches visually the view out the window is also new to me, but is as plausible as every other explanation.
Another fantastic video, Paul! The Tu-144, like the Concorde is a fascinating aircraft.
Thank you for sharing!
Fantastic!!! I am reading “Soviet SST” by Howard Moon right now, a great great book all about this exact plane. This is so amazing to be able to see it in such detail with a modern HD camera filming. Absolute perfect pairing for the book. It was published in 1989 and this level of photography was nowhere near available to the general public, and especially not for ‘free’ via internet access! So perfect. Love it Paul 💎💎💎 Such a great channel you run
You briefly mentioned that the Tu-144 worked with NASA, this was serial number 77114 which is now stored in Zhukovsky.
I have seen the TU-144 at an military airfield near Moscow, but I only was able to see the exterior up close. This seems to be the best TU-144 to see on display, plus the Concorde right next to it
Great video Paul. I've always been fascinated by the 144, as well as Concorde. Good work mate!
Thanks for the cockpit tour, I saw this exact aircraft when I visited Sinsheim in 2015, pretty awesome that they have both Tu-144 and the Concorde on display. Looking forward to your updated Concorde video.
Another great video Paul👍🏻 this Series of information/educational videos you’ve been doing for some time is great! & Simhein looks a super place to visit
Nice to see you in this aircraft the tu144 is interesting hope you enjoyed the tour of the museum at sinsheim bring back some memories for me when I lived there in germany
Thank you for sharing these videos Paul. You always find the coolest planes
Amazing to see both side by side. Awesome.
I've been last year in August at the museum at Sinsheim. The two Concords are amazing. And the cockpit as well.😊😊
Fascinating Paul and really interesting seeing the direct comparison to the Concorde next to it!
Very detailed and fun to watch. Fabulous, keep up the good work!
Amazing video !! I have been around Concorde at Brooklands - the simulator is fascinating. But this video is something else. Totally subscribed ! Mark.
Я в детстве видел много раз полёты Ту-144. Впечатления на всю жизнь остались, красавец. У нас в городе их создавали на Воронежском авиационном заводе.
Very impressive.
Amazing aircraft.
Thank You Paul.
Thanks Paul, that’s was interesting to compare both and that are quite different.
The windows are indeed gold-plated, but the layer is thin and is not really visible. The yellow colour due to the sun UV rays damaging the windows surface.
Visited that museum in 2002. Loved it! Great vid!
Great video, I live 50 minutes from Sinsheim and 1,5 hours from Speyer so I ve been there with my "babysit" boys several times, alternating every year between Speyer and Sinsheim. Great that the Technik Museum gave you the opportunity to get into the cockpits. Not possible for the "normal" visitors. Oh yeah by the way, one of the boys is now at the space and aviation university. No coincidence. The other one is planning the same in 2 years too.
Whats the best (or cheapest) way to visit Sinsheim? Would you fly into Frankfurt airport?
@@notmenotme614 yeah airportFrankfurt or Stuttgart, and than by train of rent a car.
Thank U, I Luv the Tu-144 & many other Soviet Aircraft. The were aviation masters.
Appreciated the "arrows" illustrationing the components being discussed.
Thanks. They’ve very basic arrows have I have no tech knowledge but they do the job
another brilliant doco, thanks very much Paul for showing us. cheers NZ
10/10 excellent overview! Thanks for sharing!
i LOVED this vid!!! Perfect, thank you, almost like being there 👌
Fascinating. Love your work Paul.
Thanks for the video. I really learned a lot - I was unaware that the Concorde had "supercruise". I was surprised at the small diameter of both SSTs when I went inside them. For a six footer like me it was a bit cramped. The Sinsheim museum is an amazing place. It's like what I would do if I had huge amounts of money and could afford the real thing instead of models of planes, cars, tanks, etc.
The cabin crew was carefully selected to be no taller than 5'8" (due to working in the gallery that has curved walls).
The 2nd TU-144 serial version (TU-144D) was super cruise capable as well using different engines.
@@wanderschlosser1857 sort of, it's range was still shorter than that of Concorde's. Plus the Tu-144D never saw passenger service. Only the Tu-144S model did.
@@Frserthegreenengine True, the 144 never reached the performance of the Concorde.
Wow hat was amazing. I had no idea a TU 144 was preserved outside of Monino (oh Paul if you go there, let us ALL know!). I believe the British called Concorde's wing and "Ogilvie" design. Oh and a CL-215 was seen outside of the cockpit -- can we see that too. After all, Canadian here!
Excellent exterior tour in particular. Great video
Great video Paul. Especially in comparing the 2 supersonic jets.
At least you got a nice day for the visit. Me and a friend went back in 2019 during a heatwave and it was close to 40 degrees. Even just stepping out onto the roof was a killer, but we were determined to walk through the TU144. Having done so we then stood outside on the roof for about 5mins enjoying the "cool" air before heading back inside. We gave the Concord a miss though, seen one Concord, seen them all.
Thanks Paul, nice work.
What a really cool video man. Those wings up by the cockpit makes it look kinda goofy 😂. Keep up the great work bud.
"Running through a non-normal checklist." Love that understatement.
Fantastic, great job Paul 🙂
Really fascinating, Paul.
Thank you very much for making thess videos. Lovely!!!
Cyan is my fave color. Awesome video as always!
Wonderful video and narration. Sheer education and minimal needless info or fluff. Cheers!
Amazing to me that they have one of each. Cool tour.
Great video and really useful commentary - thank you.
Great presentation. Thankyou!
I like that place. I went during off hours often and would watch multiple IMAX films. It was fun.
Wow! Thanks for Tupolev)
Great report, Paul.
Wow that’s so epic!! I would LOVE to see one let alone go inside a TU-144, I always thought that Concorde was much more graceful looking. I visited 2 Concordes on display at Le Bourget and was surprised by how low the entry door was. Thanks for the video 😊
Next time your at Le Bourget, note the difference in the size of the passenger windows on the two Concorde's they have. One has larger windows than the other. They decided after the prototype (larger windows) they would reduce the size of the windows to limit depressurization; to give more time for passengers to don their masks on. i.e. give them more time to be conscious and able to put a mask on in time before complete depressurization. At the altitudes the Concorde flew that happens faster, so by limiting the window size you limit how quickly air escapes.
Wow what a rare one! Great video.
As always Paul a superb vlog
Brilliant video, I didn't realise this museum existed, sad seeing I lived in Germany for six years.
Very cool. I hope to make it to Germany someday to view this museum.
Love your videos. Thank you!
Great comparison, thank you for sharing. Sinsheim Technik Museum is a fascinating place. I went there shortly after it opened 40 years ago and then again several years later but so many new items have been added after my last visit so hopefully I will visit it again soon. With regard to the TU-144, I wonder how the landing gear fit into the fuselage, the landing gear doors look so much smaller than the gear itself. I wonder if it retracted sideways.
Such a cool looking vehicle! Nice video
I wouldn't be surprised if this Tu-144 was shipped to Germany without the engines. The engines were used in the military, too, so the Soviet Union and its successor, Russian Federation, removed the engines prior to the shipment to the Auto- & Technikmuseum Sinsheim and disallowed Tu-144LL (the research plane) to be flown out of the country. Sinsheim is only place in the world where both Tu-144 and Concorde are on display together and only one outside Russia to have Tu-144 on display.
Meh, maybe for formality's sake. But there was a period of wild-eyed, rose-tinted glasses-wearing love and trust in the West in Russia in the 90s and 2000s, to the point where CIA would be given tours of Russian nuke trains, businessmen were given access to the Ekranoplan, Lockheed Martin given blueprints to the Yak 141, a Kholod hypersonic missile design prototype sold at auction and shipped out of the country, etc.
Amazing aircraft!
Cool video, always thought this was an interesting plane. Thanks for the view.
@@Paul_Stewart2. i dont see any instructions lol
Another outstanding video
Great video Paul
Great video mate, really interesting.
Never knew this one existed, super interesting to see!
I imagine the TU144 was absolutely terrifying to fly and fly on
The Soviets were very brave people, that's for sure.
@@TheJoeyEmilyShow I would fly on the Tupolev. Do the ignorant likes of you know anything whatsoever about flying, or aircraft in general?
I've always liked that cockpit color
Concorde development started on 29 November 1962.
Concordsky development started on 26 July 1963.
So, with such a short date difference, it would be difficult to assess "who was first" or "who copied who".
Specially if you count on the fact that before the development phase starts, it takes a long study phase.
Fascinating video thanks!
Fascinating information and footage eg interesting to hear that the Tupolev needed to keep its afterburners operating while in supersonic flight mode compared to the Concorde which only needed afterburners to accelerate to supersonic speed and then afterburners could be turned off while cruising supersonically. This made the Concorde much more fuel economic. Another great video Paul!
Tu144 uses turbofan with augmented while Concord uses turbojet. I think Tupolev had this idea becuase he might have parallel design in hand. And this design needs afterburning turbofan engines. Later it was exposed as Tu160.
Right. In the soviet union, they could never make high-quality engines - neither for water transport, nor for automobiles, nor for aircraft. Therefore, currently russia is losing the war in Ukraine - they do not have any technology.
@@nedobriy911 That's a dangerously complacent attitude!
@@awuma this is the truth, the so-called "russia" never invented anything on its own, and the quality of its products was, as a rule, at a low level.
@@nedobriy911 You don't have any technology. In fact, there is very little the ignorant, and stupid, likes of you actually do have.
Great comparison especially the cockpits. The light blue was easier on the eyes compared to the Concord all black layout. Wonder if the all white outside was lessons learned from the XB-70 program
Great video and great channel Paul
I love how they're outside exposed to the elements.
Great video, thank you!
Nice 👍
Thanks for sharing
Greetings from Helsinki ❄️ Finland
Awesome video, thanks Paul.
you're welcome Andrew
How about a look at a Tu-114. Those 4 big contra rotating props!
Thank you for the video
Nice video😊my dream to visit this museum 😍
Shocking how ,well, agricultural the TU144 is in fit, finish and design.
I once read Neil Armstrong visited the Soviet space program. He said it was a far cry from the way NASA did things. Barns instead of purpose built hangers ect. It is amazing the Reds did as well as they have considering being closed off from the west.
1913 World's first passenger plane was built in Russia C-22 "Ilya Muromets" (aircraft was revolutionary as it had a passenger saloon, promenade deck and washroom onboard.
TU-114 The largest passenger plane in the world at that time (1957), the fastest, the world's only passenger plane with a swept wing, the most comfortable (several sleeping compartments, dressing rooms, spacious toilets with makeage tables, a restaurant (in New York, there was not enough height of the ladder (up to 3 meters to the door)
@@Putins-mustache It wasn't the fastest, it was slower than a 707, and was introduced later.
The only reason it claims any records is because the engineers bungled Khrushchev on an extremely ropey prototype in 1959 for his visit to the US.
By the time it actually entered service, 2 years later, it was outclassed.
I'm sure the US could have built a cabin in the bomb bay of an XB-70 and flown Nixon somewhere, but it wouldn't be the world's first in service mach 3 passinger aircraft
@@HALLish-jl5mo From 1956 to 1958, the Tu-104 was the only operational jet passenger aircraft in the world until the introduction of the American Boeing 707 into commercial operation in October 1958.
And I'm not sure that the United States could build a cabin in the bomb bay of the XB-70 and transport Nixon somewhere...
►TU-114 has two decks, three salons and four compartments (sleeping places), a kitchen with a lift, a buffet, a restaurant, cradles for children, it's stupid to compare with a bomber. What do they have in common = they fly.
►TU-114 the world's largest *turboprop* passenger aircraft;
►TU-114 the world's fastest *turboprop* passenger aircraft;
►TU-114 the world's only turboprop *passenger* aircraft with a swept wing
@@Putins-mustache The TU-104 was only the only operational jetliner because the soviets didn't care about safety, and the British did, prompting the withdrawal of comet.
The TU-104 was famously a deathtrap, at one point taking out pretty much the entire command structure for the Pacific fleet.
Sure, if you limit yourself to turboprop aircraft, the TU-114 holds some records. But who cares? The fastest car to run off perfume was the Chrysler Turbine Car, nobody cares, because it's an irrelevant record.
As for being unable to make the XB-70 into a passenger aircraft by stuffing a cabin in the bomb bay, I was basing that on the proposal to do exactly that to the B-58 Hustler.
And the fact that the Soviets did exactly the same thing when they thought the TU-114 wasn't going to be usable, making the TU-116D, basically a TU-95 with seats in the bomb bay. In the end, as stated, they just used the TU-114. Probably figured that if they stuck the head of state on it, and killed him, his successor would actually be pleased with this development. Khrushchev was the one official it didn't matter if he died in a crash.
The soviets could build military aircraft. They could build transport aircraft. Their passenger aircraft were awful. Could be worse though; they almost stuck a passenger cabin on a Mig-31.
Yellow color of windows has nothing to do with gold. The outer layer was made of special heat resistant fluorine-acrylate glass, which degrades overtime due to a ultraviolet exposure. If you look at older pictures of Tu-144 planes (when planes were younger), all windows are fully transparent. And nothing has been hidden from "working class" of course, everybody on board got the same level of service, including sparkling wine and black caviar. The difference between classes was purely the amount of space.
I got in both planes last year and find them too different for the tupolev to be a copy. The wing design for the tupolev was different and had to be redone, the engine configuration's different too with the tu 144 engine being much closer to the fuselage than the concorde one. The tail's still different between the prototype and tu 144 too. The visit was itneresting, allowed me to grab a bunch of pics for my models and I got out of the museum with revell concorde and tu 144 models (obvious gift). The only issue is one has to be cautious when gong in the plane due to how tilted they are , I think the museum should had more railing in both fuselage.
The plans stolen by the soviets were an older design. Hence the differences.
You are quite right, the "copy" comments stem from the planes both being a similar overall configuration. That is very much where the similarities end.
The two planes look similar because the laws of physics are the same all over the world, and the two planes are trying to solve the same problem.
@@owensmith7530 that's roughly how pierre sparaco putted it in his great book "concorde-histoire d'un mythe". Another bad concorde take that bother me as a french is this idea the US were out to kill it, this ignore the plane issues and why the airlines choosed to cancel their order . I4ve also encountered this weird "boom overture is a concorde copy" take when both plane, while somewhat similar are verry different and use verry different tech.
You'd be amazed how many ignorant idiots maintain simply on the idea of looks alone that "It must have been a copy because it looks the same!"
They maintain the same about the Il 62 looking like the VC10 (even though beneath the surface they were completely different) and even copying the BAe 146 as the AN 158! (Clue: Count the engines, mate. You can use your fingers if need be!)
I mean, of all the planes to copy, why would you copy two that were actually failures?
I’m not saying this video made me subscribe, but it made me subscribe.
I love it
Welcome!
@@PaulStewartAviation thanks for having me!
The soviet concord had two classes...
TWO CLASSES