Why Did They Hate Sailor Saturn?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2019
- [sorry for the bad audio quality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] In this rant, we discuss my fav Sailor Saturn being neglected from the 90s Sailor Moon anime!
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Intro: Wii Fit Menu Remix (Smash Ultimate)
0:03 "Uranus Soshite Neptune"
0:30 "Zusammen" on German channel, SailorOberon; not sure of official name...........
Outro: Mario Maker SSB4 remix 
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Sorry for the bad audio quality, I know it sucks!!!! ALSO the title is asking why the *writers* hated her, *not* why the other 3 Outers hated her. We know that already guys..
Interesting post. Hotaru was always my favourite! Always was really disappointed she wasn't featured much overall ... I want merchandise 🤔
I'm new to Sailor Moon. Why don't the other outer scouts like her?
@@exomake_mehorololo She is best senshi
@@rhea4559 Now preventing her from being born is harsh. She deserves a chance to exist, sheesh.
Bro you're 100% on point. The original anime writers were trash the original is not enjoyable anymore to me. Manga did it way better
They hate her because she is prettier than all of them hahaha
I doubt it, the evil villainess took over her body. Not about being prettier than the others.
@@VixenVulpix266 It was a joke hence the hahas, but to me at least she is prettier than the rest
Gods, that'd make sense tho...
thats rigth
Thanks....
Damn, they did Hotaru dirty in the 90s anime.
agreed
I don't get why people are so forgiving towards "Sailor Stars". It was easily the the most shamelessly cheap season for so many reasons, the lack of Sailor Saturn included.
Im dirty.
Yeah!
@@Klee15 At least the manga and hopefully the Crystal version of Sailor Moon is doing Sailor Saturn's character, justice.
She is the prettiest of them all ngl
Pluto is prettiest, sorry
@@sophie.9092 All Of them are pretty .-.
prettiest of them is obv neptune
@@sophie.9092 all of them are pretty, but like i’m gonna have to give this one to sailor saturn, i’m fr simping
Neptune is the most gorgeous 🔱💙😉
They probably thought the character was too dark for a kids show. Typical writer's error. Kids can and wanna handle a lot and Saturn, although appearing dark, was *good* after all. That would've been a great lesson.
The last two episodes of sailor moon are restricted smh I thought the show was for kids
Yes but they put 2 lesbians in a kids show and they can't give a more screentime on saturn?
@@edoardoguzzi3553 don't you mean, "cousins"?
@@edoardoguzzi3553 not lesbians, technically, Haruka shares both male and female features to make the perfect sailor. *Read the comics*
@@pilotamurorei Manga*
"The less we see her, the more we WANT to see her."
I strongly agree.
Actual,my favorite is Saturn. I love her relationship with Chibi Moon and the Outer. Honestly, I can kind of relate to her. Both of us are young and are seen as outsiders and have difficulties in social situations. Sailor Saturn and I both think that we aren't really like by classmates. She has gave me a lot of strength and confidence in life.
nice, I also related to her when I was younger
Same here. She's my fave Outer Senshi. 💜🖤💜
It's funny I love sailor saturn but I absolutely hate Chibi moon she is annoying
Oh...wow. Thank you!
MUSTT PROTECT HOTARU/SAILOR SATURN
SHE ATACCS
SHE PROTECSS
YET SHE'S WELL BEHAVED THAN THE MAIN CHARACTERS smh
and actually I'm not gonna lie I don't think Hotaru is the only one. I think the supporting characters were least of the manga artist/authors worries, especially for the anime. 🥺
The thing I’ll never forgive them for is for cutting her out of the movies. Especially in the Sailor Moon S movie (Hearts in Ice). I mean, Hotaru *did* appear in the manga version of the same story! And she kicked ass!! There was *no* excuse! Them taking her out of the Sailor Moon SuperS movie (Black Dream Hole) was just insult to injury after that! I just wanted to see her animated with a bigger budget... T_T
Good video and great sentiment; I’m glad others share my thoughts! Lol
So glad you liked the video. I totally forgot to mention the movies. Dream Hole definitely was an insult, since Pluto being there was nonsensical (due to her "death" in S), so by all means Saturn could've been in. As for Hearts on Ice, I checked but she was not in the manga version at all. she still should've been in the movie tho let's be real
(Spoiler Warning) well that was because she was currently a baby
I'd have like it if she were in the movies but it couldn't make sense because she was in her baby form at the time the SuperS movie would have taken place. And she wasn't a sailor guardian in S until the very climax of the season. (I think Pluto being alive isn't a plothole if you play around with the timing of the S movie since Setsuna only "dies" at the tail end of the season) The movies are loosely canonical but there's enough wiggle room to make them fit if you try; but if Hotaru were included it would be even harder to fit into the events of the series.
@Everyone saying she was a baby as an excuse (spoiler warning) Pluto was supposed to be DEAD after using time stop to save Uranus/Neptune but there she is in the SuperS movie without a scratch or explanation! They’re just like “Oh hi Pluto!” Chibiusa doesn’t even react to her coming back to life and she had a confrontation with her spirit!
The video game Sailor Moon S: Another Story already patched up the baby issue by accelerating her age because there was a huge threat. So did Stars. It’s not hard.
Also I feel like the Stars premier was like an unofficial movie
Actually, Hotaru didn't appear in the Kaguya manga story. I double checked my copies.
They could have made so many memorable fillers episodes with the Outers and Hotaru as a family, and connect it to the story. Instead it was 30 episodes of OMG THE STARLIGHTS ARE SO HAWWWT
Ikr. It made the starlights a lot less likeable
I can't stand the Starlights. They were like the Outers but without actually backing up their attitudes. Haruka and Michiru could be aloof and haughty to the Inners but we see the reasons for it and they check out and make perfect sense, they're also cool and elegant and have a humorous side (especially Haruka).
@@ScienceProject99 I actually really liked the starlights.
@@Nightman221k I actually really liked the starlights, mostly seiya...ok I lied just seiya. But damn do I love her!
+Nightman221k That’s what I loved about the Outers in S, they weren’t on Sailor Moon’s side but they had reasons why, they challenged the entire narrative of blindly following Sailor Moon because she’s past royalty and presented the question on saving 1 versus 1,000,000. I know people hate them for that, but that’s what made them stick out to me when I was a kid watching S to this day. They make you think about Sailor Moon’s philosophy and various tropes.
The Starlights were cringey because they were jerks just for the sake of being jerks yet everyone including the Inners worshiped the ground they walked on, even when Usagi was clearly uncomfortable. I was shocked how different they were in the manga.
I love Sailorsaturn. She was amazing. I can't wait for the Crystal version of Stars
Agreed! And eh, more excited for the Dream arc. In the Stars manga she is relatively useless lol and also gets defeated instantaneously
@@ScienceProject99 Sailormoon Crystal is no more. They change the Title to Sailormoon Eternal.
Thanks!!
@@ScienceProject99 I mean the Stars arc is basically the story only about Eternal Sailor Moon being alone. That's why basically everyone was erased.
Science Project 99 really? 😟
In the manga, there was a positive story about Sailor Saturn. When she was reborn after suffering a short and unhappy life, the outer scouts gave her a joyous second childhood. After Saturn later regained her original form, she thanked them warmly for what they had done. I thought that this was better than any battle scene.
Now we can see it in Eternal movie
Honestly Sailor Saturn and Sailor Pluto deserved more respect ✋😔
Yes😫 they’re my favorite and it hurts lol
Totally agree with your video! Sailor Saturn is terribly underrated. I wish she had gotten more screen time and a transformation scene in the 90s anime. I will never underetand why she never got the same treatment as the other senshi.
Glad you enjoyed it! The amount of focus the Starlights got over her is still jarring to me. new starlights merchandise is rarely made compared to her, which says a lot lol
It's because Sailor Saturn is over powered.
Especialy for the two last saisons!
@@jonn_mace_80_95_ her ultime power is! She is not, for the reste.
If Sailor Saturn doesn't get any screen time in this new movie I will personally destroy the entire Galaxy and everything known to existence with her Silence Glaive. 😡😠😡😠😡😠
She will get a lot of screen time in the second part of the film. She plays a key role in the plot, but i don't wanna spoil any details
she'll appear in the second movie
Wait which movie?
Hey can you give me a explanation what will happen now? Will there be now two movies instead of two season? Why even a movie?
There will be 2 movies taking the place for season 4 because the manga arc is so short.
Sailor Saturn is one of the most powerful guardians. In the manga she really kicked ass. But in the anime she was a mystery saved for last resort. She was useless. Crystal's version was way more better. They paid justice to Saturn.
This might make me watch crystal when i've been writing it off because I have nostalgia for the original.
“Why are you gonna kill her like that?
It’s very disrespectful.”
😂 I lol’d. But you’re so right!
😆😆
I was always so confused by Saturn. They made her into this huge deal of a character who could potentially destroy the universe, but she just becomes a baby and gets taken from her dad? Then she can't immediately kill the bad guy though she technically could? She seemed so important but never proved it.
In the manga Hotaru’s dad dies, I think in the 90s they thought that would be too dark for kids to see a dad die so they let him live in the 90s anime. It makes more sense for the outlets to watch Hotaru if the dad dies.
She can't destroy universes, only planets. Galaxia fears her but chiba usa convinces her not to die for some reason. I think it would be interesting to see her fight Galaxia. I think they didn't want her to appear more powerful than Usagi 😂
It’s such a wasted potential because I loved the idea of Hotaru/sailor Saturn being pretty powerful. But ofc she can’t overshadow the main character…
Yeah! They she was never in any thumbnails, she can very rarely be found in merchandise. I wish Sailor Moon put more emphasis on my favorite Sailor Scout.
Definitely
I have multiple Sailor Moon shirts and I am so happy that I managed to find one with Saturn on it. The minute I saw it I bought it because I figured I would never see one again.
I’ve always resonated with sailor Saturn so their rejection of her made me feel like rejected myself
Exactly same
Are you also DID or OSDD? Or at least have Complex PTSD?
We're DID and she was so much like us. We also became a trauma therapist and just wanted to heal the world.
IDK I'm just hoping to find someone else like me out there in the world lol
@@MissJoy16 yup DID here Saturn has been fav since childhood. Party on 🎊 🪐
@@MissJoy16 ...how did you correlate that wtf ISJDKSK i have complex ptsd wthhh
Uranus: "We are the ***THREE*** outer senshis"
THREE.THREE.THREE.THREE.THREE.THree.Three.three...three......
Whoah....ouch!
she failed maths
Big Brother says 2+2 = 3
Big Brother demands that 2+2 = 3
The only thing sailor Moon crystal got right was that she got a little screen time
agreed. it's a shame that she got more screen time in this less superior anime version
I hope she shows up in season 4 of sailor moon crystal. She's my favorite sailor
Y’all really get off to loving 90’s stuff and hating anything new
@@ScienceProject99 smc was good smh
I enjoyed SMC better than the 90’s version one tbh.
Honestly!!! I read the manga after watching the 90s anime and Hotaru/Saturn went from a character I casually liked just like every other character to my favourite magical girl of all time. Another thing that bugged me was Tomoe's story being changed, mainly in relation to how it affected Hotaru. In the manga, it does feel satisfying that she went from a lonely, cyborg girl with an awful father to a powerful soldier who had many close friends and 3 powerful outer moms.
the manga definitely did her more justice. Except for the stars manga, I'd have to say; she didn't get a lot of screen time in that arc lol.
Green Magical Girls: We are the most shafted characters in the magical girl community.
Sailor Saturn (90s): Hold my Silence Glaive.
Really though, Saturn is my second favorite among the sailors, my first being Venus. It’s really unfortunate that the 90s version really didn’t do her justice in why she was hyped as one of the most OP and feared sailor scouts.
LOL love your comment. it is super unfortunate since in every other way, the 90s is superior to Crystal. This is my real only problem with the 90s.
It's because the 90's anime slowly made it apparent that they stopped giving a shit about any character that isn't Usagi or pink haired Usagi.
true
And they stopped portraying the girls as unique or powerful. I love the 90s anime up to S. It’s so obvious they gave up after.
considering how woefully underpowered the Inners are (with the exception of Sailor Moon) for basically two seasons, I have to agree. Sailor Moon gets a power up every season and the others get, what, 3? If you count getting their base form in season 1, and I think it was season 2 and 4 were their next powerups.
While I vastly prefer the 90s anime over Crystal because of the added character development*, I will say that at least Crystal should have everyone stay at about the same power level (I've heard that everyone gets an eternal form in Stars in the manga), so at least no one is left to feel like set dressing
on a side note, I despise how obnoxious chibi-Usa is...that and her electra-complex just make me severely dislike the character. I didn't even feel she was necessary past season 2
@@NinjaFlibble ugh I hated chibiusa so much
tbf they still gave the other girls more screen time than the original manga. The original manga was even worse, the other girls had almost no character at all.
“I just thought it was very rude” 😂😂😂 that’s a mood and a half !
Lmaoo
The thing I don't like about the 90s anime is other than completely doing Saturn and Pluto a disservice by severely undermining their roles and appearances, the Inner and Outer senshis did not work in union throughout the series like the manga, where after the Infinity arc, worked together as one, fully assembled team of Solar System Sailor Senshi.
Agreed. Since the end of Infinity in the manga, they always work as a team yet in the anime they were still distant from the Outers in stars completely.
I mean, the 90s anime makers probably did that in order to emphasize a sense of 'maturity' in which the Outer senshis have over the Inner, which is what Naoko Takeuchi had portrayed for the most part of the manga's Infinity arc. But the 90s anime just went too far. I understand that Uranus and Neptune had a tendency to work in solidarity, but I can't see the necessity in making them so ruthless, cold-hearted and bitter towards Sailor Moon and the Inner senshis like how they are portrayed in the Infinity arc and the last episodes of the Stars arc. This certainly isn't how Takeuchi want them to be.
The Inner and Outer did work together perfectly during the first cour of Stars act against Nehellenia though. And I really wanted to be more episodes like those ones.
Well in crystal they are portrayed in a more uncomfortable light,kissing Usagi without her consent and that is just wrong.
“You guys are really disrespectful... I will like, try to steal your star seeds now because you tried to be rude to me and steal mine.” -Sailor Saturn 😂
Lmao!
Saturn is my fav not just in sailor moon but in all of anime. And I think your idea of having saturn brainwashed by Galaxia and having that epic final battle would have been batter than the way they kill her off.
Definitely better. And you're right she is an awesome character
They didnt hate sailor saturn. They knew her power was dangerous and they needed to stay serious about the situation.
True
I’M SCREAMING EVERY TIME YOU SAY “RUDE” AND “DISRESPECTFUL”! 😂😂😂
Lol
Is your voice okay? (This is a joke)
I've always felt the same about how Saturn was treated in the 90s. When I was watching it as a kid on my eBay VHS tapes lol she SCARED me in S3. I was terrified of her and her power- especially as it was my first time being introduced to a story that suggested that the most powerful wasn't necessarily the lead character (although the whole Messiah debacle is always a crazy debate). But once she turned back into a baby at the end of S3, I was like "........ wait, what? So we're not gonna see her again now?!"
And then I have to agree with everything else you said, especially with the opportunity for Saturn to use power after she was reintroduced to the group.
I do have to say something about the Galaxia moment though. I recently watched those few episodes and realized that Saturn and Pluto surrendering to the attack was them accepting their plan they must have made before hand, when they were all swearing "whatever it takes". They must have planned with all the outers to have it go down like that, I think.
Agreed, I watched sailor moon S on VHS, and all the scenes of Hotaru in her throne were so creepy and fascinating to me. As for the Galaxia moment, a few others are telling me pluto and saturn went along with their plan, but honestly the scene was way too vague and rushed. to me it looked as if only uranus and neptune planned it. so I wish the writers elaborated more on how saturn and pluto felt
I swear the only time they treated Saturn well was in Sailor Moon Super
Them writing her as useless, or completely out of the story, hurts *Rini's* character too!!! I mean; Despite everything - Everyone getting hurt, Mistress 9 possessing her, the Outers *(Uranus, Neptune & Pluto)* trying to kill her to prevent Mistress 9's revival - Rini *STILL* hoped for her, *STILL* believed Hotaru was good. Rini and the Inner Scouts were her only friends for... Goodness knows how long a time of her life!!!
Dude even as a kid I knew it was bullshit she didn't get enough screen time. As soon as I knew about her existence I was sooo curious to see her transform and use her attacks. When she finally transformed for like 5 seconds and dissappeared from the episode I was so disappointed! She was so cool and they robbed us from seeing more of her. I think even as a kid I knew she was the coolest one. I completely agree with you here, you brought back the childhood trauma lol
Lol yeah the writers hated her for some reason
“Who is babysitting her here?” LOLOL
I love how you have a emotional connection to these characters
I love Saturn, agreed she definitely needed more screen time, especially more so than Darien and ESPECIALLY Rini 🙄
So true!
@@ScienceProject99 Chibi Moon, Sailor Moon, and Mamoru had WAAAAY TOO MUCH screentime.
WHY MUST SHE BE MY FAVORITE?????
It hurts that she isn’t shown more love!
I love Saturn so much!!!!!!!!
She was my first anime crush back in elementary school!
And I still have a huge soft spot for her!!!!!
I actually appreciate Sailor Saturn’s scarcity in Sailor Moon S. It does emphasize the importance of her role and makes you want more. You get the feeling that she is very special and unlike any of the other scouts.
Sailor Saturn is so underrated. I remember when I was 9-10 years old, I intrigued by Hotaru's backstory (what happened before and as Mistress 9 & Saturn) in season 3 (S) of 90s anime vers. I feel her identities are so mysterious. I even drew her picture in my diary book with full colors. She's so cool with her Silent Glaive.
Couldn't agree more with your point of view, they really treated Saturn badly in this anime ver. Probably because she is a warrior of ruin & reborn, so they think her character is not really necessary to make a transformation sequence, more screen time & special episode. I also don't really understand why Uranus & Neptune object to revive Saturn. But it must be because she is warrior of ruin after all. Lol
I agree with everything except for the end about Uranus/Neptune “betraying” Pluto/Saturn. It was explained why they did that (so they can catch Galaxia off guard) and even in S, Uranus/Neptune have made it clear that their loyalty and duty are to their princess if not each other.
I also think Saturn being brainwashed by Galaxia would have been a disservice to Hotaru considering her whole dilemma in S was that she was possessed by 2 different beings in her. It’s too much of a plot that should be reserved in fan fiction
They hate her cuz they ain't her.
I loved _Sailor Moon S._ Best season, period. From beginning to end, it was great. I loved the idea of Sailor Saturn being the evil/dark soldier. However, I thought they could've done a little more w/ her in the final season. She was a little too elusive. She definitely needed an official transformation and she needed a less intense special power. A missed opportunity was _Sailor Moon Super S._ What a waste of a season. All that Double Moon crap was so boring.
Definitely too elusive and in need of a less intense power. They brought her back only for minimal screen time
They did injustice to both Sailor Saturn and Pluto! My favourite Sailor Soldiers .
Both are regularly used as suicide Bombs .
TBH, I fell that all the outer senshi suffered from that same problem in the 90's anime. Pluto had her greatest moment cut from season 2 and moved to season 3. This also prevented Setsuna to be developed as a character separated from her sailor identity.
Michiru / Neptune had almost no personality other then be good at everything. She could have been shown not being good at some subjects and benefiting from Amy's help is studies, despite being more advanced is school. And her waking up as a senshi should have been shown.
Haruka was the better developed out of the 4 (discounting Otaru in season 3, before she woke up as Saturn). Still they could have done a better job later in season 3 and in seasons 4 and 5.
I hope that, if ever there is a 3rd anime, it is a full anime with each issue being a season. And that they took the time to develop all 4 outer senshi in both their civilian and guardian forms.
Well said and I agree. Wish Sailor Saturn had more of a presence in the series for sure. Crystal is doing her story more justice but I have issues with the animation style. LOL!
thank you, and yeah I really don't like any of the Crystal art styles so the justice doesn't feel complete
@@ScienceProject99, they're really trying to replicate the original art style of the manga, which I find works great in print but just doesn't translate well to screen animation. Was a bit of a letdown for me when I heard that one of my fave anime was getting a reboot. Was hoping for something on the calibre of Fullmetal Alchemist. Brotherhood's animation was stunning and surpassed the original. Shame Sailor Moon didn't get that treatment.
Literally the only thing I liked in Crystal s3 was Hotaru and Chibiusa’s story + Saturn.
Everything else was boring and forgettable, which the manga it was more memorable because of the art style and narrative
The thing is. Saturn is powerful so she can destroy the earth ;-;
I never comment on RUclips but SERIOUSLY FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS HOW I FEEL!!!!!! Team Sailor Saturn
Haha yes! They did her so dirty. Team Saturn all the way
I love it! "you really disrespectful" I would love to see you do an abridged version of the last episode, Saturn should speak her mind about how she got jipped this entire season but all of a sudden they want her to show up for the last few minutes of the last episode. That would be so funny to see Saturn go in on the rest of the cast!
Glad you enjoyed lol!
I love the salt in this video lol
But seriously, even though Saturn wasn't my fave I loved how cool she looked/how mysterious she was and always wanted to see more of her. I was really sad as a kid when they left her out of the last movie. I read the Mangas as I watched the anime and always had this look on my face 😒
Glad you enjoyed, and yeah if Pluto got to be in the movie then Saturn should've too!
LOLOL when u called out Sailor Uranus and was like “yo why you gotta steal Saturns thunder u just glowed up like last episode!” Sailor Uranus is my favorite but that really made me laugh!
Lmao yeah poor saturn.
Also why does Uranus' attack look like the planet Saturn with the rings?
She's my favorite senshi 😭
Thank you for calling out the lack of love she was given. She is my favorite with the coolest back story, lore, and powers. I also related alot to her, lonely, weak, but always wanting to help.
Chibi Usa sold a s h i t l o a d of toys during S, that's why super had the outers cut and her story delvoped more.
oh that's an interesting tidbit. Still was a bad choice for them to shoehorn the Starlights over the outers
Uranus and Neptune didn't just try to steal Pluto's Star Seed, they wanted to try for all of them, inner and outer
It was part of their plot to defeat Chaos
I'm waiting for the Crystal Movie to finally see Saturn fighting Amazonnes!
Me too!
For Christmas I’m getting a Sailor Saturn figure. My favourite Sailor Scout ever.
Awesome 💜
-This is why I love Sailor Saturn the most, because she’s the most underrated fighter ever- yet the most powerful.. 👁🗨👁🗨
I think she would have been a bit more accepted if her attacks weren’t only “shield” and “destroy everything”
Wow, I never realized Saturn was cut from so many events! She's my #1 favorite Scout, and has been since the first time I learned about her during the heart snatchers saga. u.u She's wise, kind, and dark...not a combination that's easy to come by, even now. The idea of her starting off as a true villain, not just as minor antagonists like the other Outers, gave her a standard all her own. Can you imagine how cool it would have been for Saturn to intervene (or even join in) when Mini Moon turned evil later on? A best friendship that lasted even through darkness and betrayals...she'd have been the only one who could have understood Chibi Usa's dark heart. **sighs** ah, well.
I do wish Pluto and Saturn would have been switched around, though. Trisha makes way more sense as Saturn, as she and her powers are all about rules and structure, which is what the planet symbolizes. Pluto, being Scorpio's ruler, is the planet of death and destruction. Hotaru's scythe, her dark colors, her mysterious and intense nature all play into that way more than a Capricorn.
I'm glad in sailor moon eternal movie trailers, appears sailor saturn gets more in depth and use than the 90s. I love her big open presence in the Season 3 of Crystal of not just explaining what she could do but SHOWED what she can do.
Sailor Saturn is one of the best Senshi. She deserves so much more love and attention. And this is coming from a Neptune fan. XD
even with only the one episode I saw when I was a kid, Saturn was one of my favorites. I also like Venus (cause I thought she was pretty when I was a kid, I watched this series when I was 10 or 11) and Star Fighter (cause I love how the relationship between him and Usagi develops more naturally than the one between Usagi and Mamoru (yes, I know Seiya is never actually a male in the manga. I'm talking strictly the 90s anime here)
I actually thought this video was why Uranus and Neptune seemed to hate Saturn during season 3 when I first clicked on it XD
yeah, I do get some comments of people thinking that's what the video is about, with them explaining that the senshi did not hate saturn, and I'm like 😅😑
Final show down idea... that is such a perfect thought! My girl Saturn always deserved so much more...
9:41 that scene would’ve been better than sailor moon just doing nothing but crying and letting everyone die and fight for her
2:09 Oh wow! For years I had no idea where this transformation was from, but thanks to you I finally know the answer!
You're welcome
You bring up some great points. I always thought it was because Saturn was supposed to be quite young and while almost all the scouts are teens, maybe they thought it wasn't appropriate? Still though, I consider Saturn to be one of the most badass scouts.
Good opinions. One of the things I love the most about the 90s anime for Saturn is her somewhat nuanced color scheme. The accent ribbons are so “dark burgundy” that they show almost black most of the times, which in my modest opinion it works SO much better.
I agree with you in regard to her short screentime. Unfortunately the same could be said by 3 out of the 5 Witches 5 that suffered that some destiny.
Totally agree, they did Saturn wrong in the OG anime
They didn't hate her, the writers just wanted to keep all the main focus on a blonde crybaby who cries her way through every climax in every season. Why is she hailed as a hero in this anime again?
I mean, why is she considered a role model? She sucks at school and everything else and her only goal in life is to get married and be a princess. While the other sailor scouts have real long-term ambitions. Ami (Mercury) is studying to be a doctor, Rei (Mars) wants to write her own music and probably take charge of the shrine after her grandpa, Makoto (Jupiter) wants to be a chef, Minako (Venus) wants to go into entertainment and be a world famous diva. Michiru (Neptune) is a talented painter and violinist and Haruka (Uranus) is a freaking NASCAR racer! I love these characters so much more for their real life goals that girls can look up to! And they're so much more likable than that wand waving crybaby who eats, sleeps, flunks school tests, dreams only about being a pretty dainty princess and chases after cute boys! I don't care if Usagi's the main character, she's a very unlikable main character.
Karuminu2 her tears are the legendary silver crystal so..... 😢 💎
Karuminu2 She’s atleast better then other anime airhead girls.
Miss Airhead she’s the biggest airhead there is XD
Did you even pay attention to Usagi's growth throughout the series? Sure, she started off as a ditzy, dumb, airheaded crybaby who'd always try and run away from her battles, but this changed as the series progressed. The moment she got her memories back after her and the inner senshi's deaths, something in her changed. She even said it - "Goodbye, Old Usagi..."
This proved that she'd grown up and realized her destiny as not just the princess, but a warrior. Underneath that still, however, she was still the Usagi with all of the traits and flaws that made up her character. She was a little whiny, a tad spacey, and still a bit of a klutz. But she'd grown.
Denying that would mean denying everything that Sailor Moon is as its core - a coming of age story. A story about realizing your responsibilities and learning to take charge for yourself. She started off as this fourteen year old girl with the weight of the world on her shoulders, which is something people tend to forget. I wonder, if they were in her position, would they be able to accept the new life they'd been forced into and just... roll with it? Keep in mind, under her senshi exterior, Usagi was still a child, and being ordinary was something she'd longed for from the moment Luna gave her that brooch. She could eat and sleep and afford to be ditzy, because those were the little things that made up her ordinary life. Things that she'd come to appreciate since the battle with Queen Beryl.
I would say that Usagi's growth was most prevalent during the scene where she saved Sailor Saturn. During that incredibly powerful scene, you could hear her anguish as she pounded against the ground, begging her brooch to work because she was that determined to save someone without anyone else having to suffer the consequences. She stayed true to her ideals. In the beginning of the series, Usagi would have burst into tears at the fact that things hadn't gone her way. But this was different. You could only hear and see Usagi's pure desperation to make things better.
(And Usagi does have dreams, however unrealistic they may be. Like being a teacher, a nurse, a mother, an idol, and a plethora of other jobs that fall way out of her capability.)
chara ruby I agree! Most anime girls are just ditzy and cute. Usagi is not just a blonde crybaby, she’s grown up.
Usagi is still a child.
Saturn has always been my favourite!! I remember being a little kid on the edge of my seat throughout Sailor Moon S and I dressed like Hotaru at school. I liked the rest of Sailor Moon but nothing stood up to Sailor Moon S to me and it's the only season I've really rewatched.
I want a third anime! I want the generals/guardians and the generals to be alive somehow (although they might just be in the rocks), Haruka and Michiru in season one and two somehow, filler, cel animation with a manga style, jazz music, new theme songs and ending themes, and every plot hole fixed, and a simuldub!
hotaru is literally one of the most powerful like USE HER POWERS DAMMIT
I love Hotaru/Sailor Saturn. She’s my favourite.
Why did they didn’t put her in the Sailor Moon SuperS The movie? I’m really disappointed that’s she’s not even in that movie.
I was sad that my favorite planet was not represented enough in general. Saturn's too cool.
Sailor Saturn and Galaxia versus Sailor Moon and the Sailor Stars is an awesome idea!!! That woulda been fire!
haha glad you agree!
The first Amv I ever made was a sailor Saturn one... i basically had to use all available footage of her to get it done lol
But good thing we have Sailor moon Crystal! From what I have seen the Crystal series is running more with the manga then the original anime (ex: Sailor Pluto death scene when she stops time) so there is a high chance that Saturn will get more screen time
I’m glad somebody else noticed this! I LOVE Sailor Saturn and it makes me so sad she doesn’t get any love from the writers. It also makes me sad when there is artwork of every scout except for her.
Sailor Saturn awakening episodes with the whole gambler dude and everything has held strong in my memory since childhood. I love her and she's always been my favorite 💖💖💖
Sailor Saturn was not angry at Uranus and Neptune, because both her and pluto had an agreement with Uranus and Neptune. They knew that Uranus and Neptune were pretending to be working for Galaxia, they could see that when they looked into their eyes while they were trying to punch them, even though they claimed otherwise. They had to fool Galaxia, and Uranus and Neptune's plan was indeed brilliant and one of the best twists in the 90s anime. After having her weapons destroyed by Galaxia, there wasn't much they could do, so Saturn and Pluto sacrified themselves for a major cause.
However, i do agree with you. I would have loved to see more of Sailor Saturn in Sailor Stars, and of course, all of the outer soldiers during Super S. I can't wait to see the new movies too!!
Yeah I guess they might've had an agreement with uranus andn neptune, but the scene to me was very vague and rushed so it was not clear that Saturn and Pluto had an agreement with them, since even their inner thoughts all were in shock and fear. To me it seemed like the plan was only conceived by uranus and neptune so i think the writers should've added more of pluto and saturn's inner thoughts. but yeah let's hope the movies are good
MORE SAILOR SATURN!!! MORE SAILOR SATURN!!! MORE SAILOR SATURN!!!
This is why I love the manga. I read it over every few months lol.
I love Saturn so much. She’s pretty much my favorite design, maybe even my favorite character. Sadly she just doesn’t get enough screen time for me to know if she really would be. It’s hard for me to pay attention to manga for a long time unless it’s all super interesting (if I haven’t seen it) so I never actually got around to finishing it.
Tbh her "attacks" in the anime. Are more so defensive. She really only has silent wall which blocks hella damage. Which is cool and all but could have been made more of a focused.
She has Death Reborn Revolution.
I'm speaking more so in the anime terms. I know she has attacks in manga
@@wendywhalims1257 In the 90's anime, since that's what I assume your talking about given that Crystal also goes by the manga more, she also has Silence Glaive Surprise. The others just won't let her use it because it's a cosmic nuke
Sailor Saturn is my fave and i'm glad she's way more important in the manga
The first 6 episodes of Sailor Stars are probably my favorite ''mini-arc'' of the entire show
I love how u know I keep calling the sailors as the American names. I love this video!!! And ur so good with it!!!
I guess you aren't thinking about this much. The anime and the Manga are completely different story plot wise. Sailor Saturn is supposed to be "The Silence" ; a guardian only awoken to destroy the world and rebuild it. They treat her that way throughout the anime and also she's always stays a young age after reawakening, there are just some perspective shots that make her seem taller. They treat her as a weapon of destruction because that's what she has been portrayed as. Furthermore, Neptune and Uranus took her star seed as part of their plan to take down Galaxia and Saturn would most likely understand this. Also why do you keep referring to her as "Super" Sailor Saturn? Nothing in the anime ever said this power up would be considered a "Super" form. There are a lot of differences between the anime and the Manga and I don't believe they were doing anything to purposely kick Saturn out. Also The outer guardians had very little to do with the dream arc and everything relating to them that had to do with the dream arc was shown in the beginning of Sailor Stars. I'm sorry, but this argument is full of holes. The anime just has an altered story plot from the manga so you can't compare them.
In general they did a lot of disservice to the outer scouts.
that's a fact
Science Project 99 It’s a shame too, they were my favorites, particularly Sailor Uranus.
I haven’t seen the 90s version of SM, but that’s such a shame! I absolutely loved Hotaru/Sailor Saturn in the SM Crystal: Eternal movie!
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this is the ammount of times he says "disrespectful"
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It's true all you said! I really loathed that Saturn was completely left out in the 90s anime... Always wanted to see more from her... Fortunately we've got Crystal which is sticking up to the manga story, so Let's just wait!
I was born in 1990 and grew up, watching Sailor Moon and loving it… sailorman was always my favorite, and when I got into the manga, she became even more so standup for me! They’ve definitely done her Dirty over the years, and I would love if they did some type of variation, where each Sailor Scout got their own moment to the shine and star, in some kind of role that explore backstory and their individuality!
I really want a season that focuses on the in between, when Usagi becomes Neo Queen Serenity and everything that happens to her earth family and friends.
Bruuuuh
Why it took me so long to realize
Chibiusa-Chibi Usagi
Rini-Mini Serena
Lol
Didn't she kind of die and got reborn as a baby?
yes at the end of season 3.
Yes!!! Your end scene idea is amazing !!! We could only dream !
Glad you like it!
I LOVE THAT IDEA FOR AN ENDING! You're brilliant. 😍
Glad you liked it 😆
OMG, I also dreamed of having another anime adaptation after Crystal! There was even a point in my life where I made it my dream to create and handle the new anime. Lol. And same thought too about having more episodes. Crystal's downfall was sticking too close to the manga with one chapter equals one episode. Instead of laying out the story of the manga properly, they basically just did a check list of the plot points. Each chapter in the manga are relatively long and they should have split it into two episodes. Or maybe do longer episodes like 45 mins long or something.