@@lksclimbing for me that's the key disadvantage: it's less safe than a grigri if you lose control of the brake side of the rope. That shouldn't ever happen with any belay device, but the grigri seems to be better at auto-locking, the neox could have trouble in high friction scenarios.
I think this is focusing on the wrong point. The short roping o. Lead is only a problem for beginners maybe the first day of use. The real issue is that since you have to learn a different technique (holding the cam) to correctly belay with a grigri it is a problem when you need to change device. I go climbing multi pitch climbs in the Verdon we’ll need to use double ropes so I can’t use a grigri and I need to make sure I practice a bit with a reverso before. With the neox you can go back and forth between tube and grigri with no acclimation time.
@@lksclimbing i disagree. I have the neox and it locks up as quickly as the grigri. If you're not holding the brake strand you shouldn't be belaying, it doesn't matter what device you're using.
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Wait, the location is Parthian Reading. This is my home gym! I wasn't expecting to see this!
And somehow my partner keeps short roping me at almost every clip. I cant fucking understand how....
I guarantee there will be inattentive static belayers who will still short rope with this. If you used the grirgri properly, you wouldn’t short rope.
Even though the neox just came out, it's currently on sale at REI for US climbers and the epic tv shop for UK climbers
Even more of a reason to get one!
Hmmm… I can’t find it on the REI website. Says “item not found”. Only items were the Grigri and Grigri plus, both on sale.
@@j.l.5966a friend told me if the sale but the next day it was sold out
2:46 is not an issue lol.
So the grigri if you are a bad belayer with a grigri, you run the risk of short roping. What's the risk if you're a bad belayer with a neox?
It has all the risks associated with a device like the ATC or a normal belay plate.
@@lksclimbing for me that's the key disadvantage: it's less safe than a grigri if you lose control of the brake side of the rope. That shouldn't ever happen with any belay device, but the grigri seems to be better at auto-locking, the neox could have trouble in high friction scenarios.
But the gri gri can slip and is in safe in that manner! Always keep the dead rope under control!
I think this is focusing on the wrong point. The short roping o. Lead is only a problem for beginners maybe the first day of use. The real issue is that since you have to learn a different technique (holding the cam) to correctly belay with a grigri it is a problem when you need to change device. I go climbing multi pitch climbs in the Verdon we’ll need to use double ropes so I can’t use a grigri and I need to make sure I practice a bit with a reverso before.
With the neox you can go back and forth between tube and grigri with no acclimation time.
@@lksclimbing i disagree. I have the neox and it locks up as quickly as the grigri. If you're not holding the brake strand you shouldn't be belaying, it doesn't matter what device you're using.
Did you steal sams?