1) 1:10 WOW!! Elinore!! Magnificent French pronunciation!! The private school I went to pronounced foyer as "foy ihr" and a classmate often spoke of "Horse Doovers" (Hors d'Oeuvres). 2) Very much looking forward to the HL Hunley ep!! Way to go Elinore!!
During the sinking of Andrea Doria a local TV Station in Boston had a plane circling over head beaming Live TV pictures which were then transmitted to New York Stations. I watched them live. At the time Il de France had huge lights over her bridge "France" which were usually turned on in Harbor. Her Captain ordered them on and this was the first thing Doria passengers looming out of the fog. A moment in sea history.
One of my favourite 3 ocean liners. The other 2 are of course Normandie but also the lesser known SS L'Atlantique who also met the same fate. Her interiors were breathtaking, like Normandie's. It's a shame SS L'Atlantique is hardly known today. Perhaps you could do a video on her? Kudos to you!
@@shipwrecksunday You should! L'Atlantique was built for Compagnie de Navigation Sud Atlantique, a subsidiary of the Compagnie Générale Transatlantique (CGT). When completed in 1931 she was the biggest, swiftest and most luxurious liner on the route between Europe and South America.
Normandie will always be the most beautiful ship ever built in my eyes. Nevermind her amazingly gorgeous interiors, her exterior appearance was nothing short of outstanding. She had the most amazing lines and her revolutionary hull (designed by Alexander Yorkovitch) was simply breathtaking. Even the brakewater on her foc'sle was beautiful. There will never be another ship that will ever be as beautiful and more well proportionately designed as Normandie. It was a great loss to us in the ocean liner community, but also as a huge troopship during WWII when she was capsized after catching on fire due to a careless torch cutting job in the grand salon.
@@Brock_Landers Very true. Yorkovitch was on the dock when she was on fire. He pleaded with the navy to let him aboard to open the sea-cocks. He was refused. I'm very, very lucky to have had a grandfather who was fascinated with the battle of the Queens and Normandie during the 1930s. He somehow got his hands on the limited edition book that was given to 1st class passengers during her maiden voyage. I also have the medallion that was also issued during the 1st trip. He also watched both Queens regularly during WW2. The 'Grey Ghosts' they were called. He told many things, and I'm lucky to have the same passion he had.
@@prudencepineapple9448 Absolutely, Yorkovitch stepped to Adolphus Andrews and pleaded with him to allow him onboard. He told him, "I can find my way blindfolded! I'll open the seacocks, she will sink six inches and will not capsize!" Andrews replied, "this is a Navy job"...and that was the end of the Normandie. As far as your grandfather and his collection, that is simply awesome. I only ever had one grandfather and I found him after he had passed when I was 13 and it scarred me for life. He never told me of his life, at least that I can remember. Him and my only grandmother lived six hours away from us for most of my life while he was alive, so we only got to see them maybe once a year. It's still a touchy subject for me because I found him so young and he meant so much to me.
My eyes went wide open and my jaw hit the floor when you went French...damn 🔥 well done! You sound extremely fluent. Great story and great video as always. I really hope someone has tried that cheese and lets you know how it is!
I'm already acquainted with the Hunley's history. History in the dark and Oceanliner Designs both already talked about it. Cheers that the Hunley still exists.😊❤
Great vid, great subject, fantastic voice!! Also fantastic research n facts on this subject. Keep it up and looking forward to seeing more of Shipwreak Sunday!!
I didn't know that Ile de FRance was refitted in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. But I did know, that in addtion to lifting prisoners of war, Ide de France was used as a troopship in the Indian Ocean and my father, who served in the South African 6th Armoured Division was transported with most of the division from Durban to Egypt aboard Ile de France. Thank you for a fascinating post.
If y'all have never seen it, you should watch the movie The Last Voyage with famous actor Robert Stack and actress Dorothy Malone. It was the actual last voyage of the Ile de France (named the Claridon for the movie) and is actually a very well produced movie.
Elinor throwing down on some French linguistics. Nice work. Made me want French fries. The dining room on that ship was amazing. Absolutely beautiful. Good story covered A-Z. Good video E.
@@shipwrecksunday I could tell you had fun with the French. Did you take it in school. Keep throwing stuff like that in. You might get a language program sponsor. We have unlimited hydros coming to Seattle first weekend in August. They could use some promotions. Lots of accidents and deaths. Thanks E. Have a great week.
@@thereissomecoolstuff thank you so much! I'll have to look into! Funny enough, I actually took Spanish in high school and middle school! I took 5 years of it. Still only talk at a basic level of it unfortunately!
I saw “The Last Voyage “ when I was a child and Turner Classic Movies showed it a few years ago and I watched it again. Robert Stack and Dorothy Malone got top billing but Ile de France was the real star of the show.
What an illustrious career, it's really too bad she wasn't made into a museum! Imagine setting up a section of what she looked like during each period in her career! Obviously not every great ship can be made into a museum piece, but this one really fit the bill in my opinion.
@@shipwrecksunday yes, definitely. I'm in the process of watching a 90 minute documentary of Britannica, they took a small submersible down to her wreckage. Another 90 minute documentary on Lusitania next🙂 both documentaries are on Amazon.
What the Ile was, is, and always will be can be summed up perfectly by this quote from the great John Malcolm-Brinnin: "The Ile de France was handsome without being grand, comfortable without being overstuffed, class-conscious without living by it's exclusions. Yet no one would ever adequately account for her matchless power to attract the talented and youthful, the stylish and eminent; or say why it was that one ship, neither better nor bigger than a dozen others on the same Atlantic throroughfare, would win for herself unprecedented affection and loyalty. "
@@shipwrecksunday I’m so glad you liked it! It’s from the book Grand Luxe: The Transatlantic Style. It is a masterpiece in both writing the pictures and illustrations it contains. As an ocean liner enthusiast I cannot recommend it highly enough!
"Like a good husband he complied". Have you just told Derrick that you wat your dinning room styled in the same fashion? Poor Derrick, I empathise with him:-)
I worked for Costa Cruises for 3 years and sailed on a number of their re-purposed liners. While modern cruise liners are very nice, they lack the grace and warmth of the older vessesls like the Carla C, Amerikanis, Flavia and Leonardo di Vinci..
With being turned into a POW ship, she had a better fate then the USS Boise. She was sold to Argentine after WW2 and was used there as a prison, to torture political prisoners, at the time of the Argentine junta.
@@shipwrecksunday One of the Brooklyn class cruisers off the USN. They got the nickname "machine gun cruisers", because a good crew could fire 10 6" shells per rifle. Since the they had 15(!) guns, that's 150 shells per minute. Most famous was the USS Helena, a modified version, for bringing pain to the IJN at Guadalcanal. Hornfischer's "Neptune's Inferno" has a good description of the Helena in action. One of my fav ships of the USN.
@@ALCO-C855-fan I definitely agree that it sucks that they sunk her the way they did. However I haven't personally seen the film so I can't comment on its quality!
Okay, I have to be "that guy". The note indicating Lusitania's dining room is actually Mauretania. Her dining room was decked out in rich dark wood while the Lusitania showcased a mich lighter and gilded motif. Sorry, my inner oceanliner nerd would not sit still! 😝🤪
What is your favorite part of Île de France's career?!
Ahhhh, Sleek, graceful and I can only imagine the wine lists. The saving of many lives in the Andrea Doria must be her highlight.
All of it ! Awesome Ship 👍
@@shipwrecksunday The ship itself duh. Well maybe the Andrea Doria incident.
All,of the above
1) 1:10 WOW!! Elinore!! Magnificent French pronunciation!! The private school I went to pronounced foyer as "foy ihr" and a classmate often spoke of "Horse Doovers" (Hors d'Oeuvres).
2) Very much looking forward to the HL Hunley ep!! Way to go Elinore!!
Thank you so much my friend! I finally saw this!
During the sinking of Andrea Doria a local TV Station in Boston had a plane circling over head beaming Live TV pictures which were then transmitted to New York Stations. I watched them live. At the time Il de France had huge lights over her bridge "France" which were usually turned on in Harbor. Her Captain ordered them on and this was the first thing Doria passengers looming out of the fog. A moment in sea history.
@@itsjohndell it was so comforting to the survivors to see that. I can only imagine how relieved they felt to be safe on the Île de France!
This beautiful Ship had a wonderful and very long career. Very well done.
@@Gregm-l9r thank you so much!! She was a beautiful ship!
One of my favourite 3 ocean liners. The other 2 are of course Normandie but also the lesser known SS L'Atlantique who also met the same fate. Her interiors were breathtaking, like Normandie's. It's a shame SS L'Atlantique is hardly known today. Perhaps you could do a video on her? Kudos to you!
@@prudencepineapple9448 I definitely could! Thank you so much!
@@shipwrecksunday You should! L'Atlantique was built for Compagnie de Navigation Sud Atlantique, a subsidiary of the Compagnie Générale Transatlantique (CGT). When completed in 1931 she was the biggest, swiftest and most luxurious liner on the route between Europe and South America.
Normandie will always be the most beautiful ship ever built in my eyes. Nevermind her amazingly gorgeous interiors, her exterior appearance was nothing short of outstanding. She had the most amazing lines and her revolutionary hull (designed by Alexander Yorkovitch) was simply breathtaking. Even the brakewater on her foc'sle was beautiful. There will never be another ship that will ever be as beautiful and more well proportionately designed as Normandie. It was a great loss to us in the ocean liner community, but also as a huge troopship during WWII when she was capsized after catching on fire due to a careless torch cutting job in the grand salon.
@@Brock_Landers Very true. Yorkovitch was on the dock when she was on fire. He pleaded with the navy to let him aboard to open the sea-cocks. He was refused.
I'm very, very lucky to have had a grandfather who was fascinated with the battle of the Queens and Normandie during the 1930s. He somehow got his hands on the limited edition book that was given to 1st class passengers during her maiden voyage. I also have the medallion that was also issued during the 1st trip.
He also watched both Queens regularly during WW2. The 'Grey Ghosts' they were called. He told many things, and I'm lucky to have the same passion he had.
@@prudencepineapple9448 Absolutely, Yorkovitch stepped to Adolphus Andrews and pleaded with him to allow him onboard. He told him, "I can find my way blindfolded! I'll open the seacocks, she will sink six inches and will not capsize!" Andrews replied, "this is a Navy job"...and that was the end of the Normandie.
As far as your grandfather and his collection, that is simply awesome. I only ever had one grandfather and I found him after he had passed when I was 13 and it scarred me for life. He never told me of his life, at least that I can remember. Him and my only grandmother lived six hours away from us for most of my life while he was alive, so we only got to see them maybe once a year. It's still a touchy subject for me because I found him so young and he meant so much to me.
La IL de France so beautiful. We love her.❤
@@ALCO-C855-fan she's gorgeous! ❤️
@@shipwrecksunday Indeed. The Queen Mary of France.
My eyes went wide open and my jaw hit the floor when you went French...damn 🔥 well done! You sound extremely fluent.
Great story and great video as always. I really hope someone has tried that cheese and lets you know how it is!
@@screensource1 thank you! 🥰🥰 Love you ❤️
I'm already acquainted with the Hunley's history. History in the dark and Oceanliner Designs both already talked about it. Cheers that the Hunley still exists.😊❤
@@ALCO-C855-fan both great channels!!
@@shipwrecksunday I can only agree. Darkness is funny and Mike the ship expert. What's your favorite running gag/meme of History in the dark?
Great vid, great subject, fantastic voice!! Also fantastic research n facts on this subject. Keep it up and looking forward to seeing more of Shipwreak Sunday!!
@@BrockRuby thanks so much!
The Ile de France was the star of the 1960 shipwreck movie The Last Voyage where it portrait the SS Claradon.
Yes she was!!
Very wellDone informative documentary …. Excellent commentary and illustrations
@@renesagahon4477 thank you so much!!
I didn't know that Ile de FRance was refitted in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. But I did know, that in addtion to lifting prisoners of war, Ide de France was used as a troopship in the Indian Ocean and my father, who served in the South African 6th Armoured Division was transported with most of the division from Durban to Egypt aboard Ile de France. Thank you for a fascinating post.
@@grahamdominy8309 very interesting! Thank you so much for sharing that, my friend! I thank him for his service!
everyone, me and Shipwreck sunday also have a video planned of another ship which will come up soon so STAY TUNED
@@teamtripledent31nextgentls94 cheers, my friend!
If y'all have never seen it, you should watch the movie The Last Voyage with famous actor Robert Stack and actress Dorothy Malone. It was the actual last voyage of the Ile de France (named the Claridon for the movie) and is actually a very well produced movie.
@@Brock_Landers I absolutely need to!!
Elinor throwing down on some French linguistics. Nice work. Made me want French fries. The dining room on that ship was amazing. Absolutely beautiful. Good story covered A-Z. Good video E.
@@thereissomecoolstuff thank you so much, my friend! Great to see you! French fries sound great right now, don't they?!
@@shipwrecksunday I could tell you had fun with the French. Did you take it in school. Keep throwing stuff like that in. You might get a language program sponsor. We have unlimited hydros coming to Seattle first weekend in August. They could use some promotions. Lots of accidents and deaths. Thanks E. Have a great week.
@@thereissomecoolstuff thank you so much! I'll have to look into! Funny enough, I actually took Spanish in high school and middle school! I took 5 years of it. Still only talk at a basic level of it unfortunately!
Very good video Elinor!!! As far as the Stockholm, it is still being used i believe. 👍
@@vet-7174 she is! She is now SS Astoria! Thanks so much!
I saw “The Last Voyage “ when I was a child and Turner Classic Movies showed it a few years ago and I watched it again. Robert Stack and Dorothy Malone got top billing but Ile de France was the real star of the show.
@@lumberlikwidator8863 ill definitely need to watch that one! I love older movies!
6:32 I was typing this as you mentioned it. Well done. Sinatra's version bangs. Haha.
@@ericcriteser4001 thanks so much! Sinatra is awesome - I love his music!
Very well done, it's such a interesting story and I'm shocked she never ended up as a hotel in Dubai or Hong Kong.
@@leopardone2386 thanks so much my friend! She was a beautiful vessel and surely should have been saved!
What an illustrious career, it's really too bad she wasn't made into a museum!
Imagine setting up a section of what she looked like during each period in her career!
Obviously not every great ship can be made into a museum piece, but this one really fit the bill in my opinion.
@@Chevyman02 that would have been a better use of her than sinking her for a movie in my opinion!
@@shipwrecksunday yes, definitely.
I'm in the process of watching a 90 minute documentary of Britannica, they took a small submersible down to her wreckage.
Another 90 minute documentary on Lusitania next🙂 both documentaries are on Amazon.
Another great video thank you. can’t wait till next Sunday 👍👍
@@joeanderson9852 Thank you, my friend! I appreciate you!
I just love your videos Elinor. 😎💚💙👍👍🍺🍺🍻
Thanks so much!!
Great video as always, thank you for doing these 👍😄
@@JamesWylde thank you so much for watching!
What the Ile was, is, and always will be can be summed up perfectly by this quote from the great John Malcolm-Brinnin:
"The Ile de France was handsome without being grand, comfortable without being overstuffed, class-conscious without living by it's exclusions. Yet no one would ever adequately account for her matchless power to attract the talented and youthful, the stylish and eminent; or say why it was that one ship, neither better nor bigger than a dozen others on the same Atlantic throroughfare, would win for herself unprecedented affection and loyalty. "
@@angellight495 this! This is well-said. I absolutely agree with this!
@@shipwrecksunday I’m so glad you liked it! It’s from the book Grand Luxe: The Transatlantic Style. It is a masterpiece in both writing the pictures and illustrations it contains. As an ocean liner enthusiast I cannot recommend it highly enough!
Cool video I read about her starring role in the last voyage years ago pretty neat history
@@steveshattuck8128 thanks so much! She had an incredible career!
@@shipwrecksunday She sure did WWII service rescued the Andrea Doria survivors 👍😁
@@steveshattuck8128 I love how beautiful she was and the fact she did so many acts of service. It really makes her so special and unique!
Cheese? You've gotta Brie kidding me........ though I'll never apologise.... I'll see myself out lmao 😂😂😂
@@Sh_rib lmao 😂 that's a good one 😂
@@shipwrecksunday I'm terrible i know lol 🤣🤣🤣
The movie "Paris Holiday" with Bob Hope was filmed on the Ile De France.
@@lawrencelewis2592 I love that! Thank you for pointing that out!
at 15;59 on the video your photo purportedly showing the Ile sunk is in fact a photo of the Liberte, ex-Europa sunk at Le Havre before her renovation.
@@marklease9717 thank you for that correction!
anyone got the tea on what happen to turn other guy that used to present as well? i am grateful for this change
@@ljfire100 he's my husband! He just is very busy and our schedules no longer lined up 😁 however he is my biggest supporter ❤️
I think we crossed on the Liberty... Maybe a video of her ?
@@donaldlyons537 I can definitely add her to my list!
"Like a good husband he complied". Have you just told Derrick that you wat your dinning room styled in the same fashion? Poor Derrick, I empathise with him:-)
@@GordonHouston-Smith lmao! I would love that and he would maybe oblige 😂
could you cover the story of the Torrey Canyon please it would be interesting to know her history
@@petermitchell471 I can definitely look into her!
The photo at 16:01 is the Europa.
@@boataxe4605 thank you for the correction ❤️
I worked for Costa Cruises for 3 years and sailed on a number of their re-purposed liners. While modern cruise liners are very nice, they lack the grace and warmth of the older vessesls
like the Carla C, Amerikanis, Flavia and Leonardo di Vinci..
@@propman3523 I love older ships - they are so well-built and beautiful! They are so rich with history, too.
like the vid and it seems I'm to return to your next excellent vid on a sub my dad had a film on that being the H L Hunley
@@MatthewSP117 awesome! I look forward to seeing your input on that one!
You handle all the French names & wording very well
@@almirria6753 thank you so much! I have struggled with French for a long time so I appreciate you saying that!
@@shipwrecksunday We all struggle with the French. Waiters in Paris in particular.
@@GordonHouston-Smith my grandma always described it as talking with marbles in your mouth and I think she was spot on!
With being turned into a POW ship, she had a better fate then the USS Boise. She was sold to Argentine after WW2 and was used there as a prison, to torture political prisoners, at the time of the Argentine junta.
@@andreaslermen2008 I'll have to look into that one! Boise is a special place and I did not know a ship was named after it!
@@shipwrecksunday One of the Brooklyn class cruisers off the USN. They got the nickname "machine gun cruisers", because a good crew could fire 10 6" shells per rifle. Since the they had 15(!) guns, that's 150 shells per minute. Most famous was the USS Helena, a modified version, for bringing pain to the IJN at Guadalcanal. Hornfischer's "Neptune's Inferno" has a good description of the Helena in action. One of my fav ships of the USN.
@@andreaslermen2008 thank you for the information on her! I'll have to look her up!
The last voyage sucked. Especially that they used this liner!😖 Sorry for for losing it but whyyyy? 😢
@@ALCO-C855-fan I definitely agree that it sucks that they sunk her the way they did. However I haven't personally seen the film so I can't comment on its quality!
@@shipwrecksunday Well given the facts I know from Big old boats about it, I also won't give it a try. Especially cuz of the Il de France.
Okay, I have to be "that guy". The note indicating Lusitania's dining room is actually Mauretania. Her dining room was decked out in rich dark wood while the Lusitania showcased a mich lighter and gilded motif. Sorry, my inner oceanliner nerd would not sit still! 😝🤪
Totally okay! I appreciate your honesty and corrections! It makes our content better
tell your mom i said hi,,,,