It’s loyalty to the work and to the position. Not the person that holds said position. There’s a stark difference to those that serve because they want to make a difference and those that only want to be seen making a difference.
My daughter recently asked me what my favorite show of all time is, and I didn't even hesitate before saying, "The West Wing". It was a first for me, in that I had not watched a show based on politics before, but now I kind of love that genre. The amazing actors who made these characters come to life so much that you wanted to be in their world and you hated when a show ended. The humor, interspersed amongst the drama, was priceless. I laughed and cried during EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE. No show has ever even come close to being this wonderful, at least for me.
@@stribe1000 I agree.not the same level, but very very close. And I'd like to see a new show with mix crew from both... Imagine a President CJ Cregg with Will McAvoy as Com Director, Charlie Young chief of Staff, Jim Harper in the speechwriter staff... and MacKenzie McHale Deputy Chief Of Staff 🙂
This is a scene I always come back to. When someone asks what TWW is about, it’s just this: Never doubt that a small group of committed citizens can change the world. You know why? It’s the only thing that ever has.
But what if those citizens are completely and utterly mistaken or delusional? As are those, for example, that continued to vote for Nancy Pelosi, the most corrupt and disgusting "politician" that has ever existed?
Part of it is that Martin Sheen is a great actor, but a big part of it is the moral depth and gravitas of Josiah Bartlett, but when he starts the commissioning by saying, "William Bailey..." That's the moment I go into tears.
How can you not cry? And how can you not laugh while you're crying? Donna's comment to Josh, Josh's comment to Will, Will's confusion, the underlying humor in Jed Bartlett's very nature...it all makes me laugh, while at the same time being so moved and touched that this group of people could create this incredible magic that the tears just start flowing.
Reminds me of this from Toby: "You see what I did with 'lowers' and 'raises' there? It's called the science of listener attention. We did repetition, we did floating opposites, and now the one that's not like the others." (from s2e16)
I’ve watched this dozens of times and only just seen, the President gives Will the pen. He glances back as if to give it to Charlie, then looks at the pen, glances at Will, and hands it to him. You wonder if it was on the script, or just Martin Sheen being his usual brilliance 🤩🤩🤩
They are all nightmares compared to reality, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, are real flawed, corrupt, selfish people, who sometimes manage to do something good in doing aload of awful things. Tv presidents don't have to run for anything, they don't have to pay for anything, deal with 10000 conflicting desires the people want/need.
@@prospero4183 It's because most of them are establishment. Politics is not what the West Wing portrayed as this glorious way of promoting change because you want it, nor is it the bitter negotiating that House of Cards portrays, although HoC is closer to reality than the WW. Politics is a one party system where they play good cop bad cop and we the people are the ones who actually get f*cked by everyone.
"Most of them quite recently." Having once taught at a college literally down the street from Ft. Bragg, this resonates for me quite powerfully. I know those folks, I know their spouses.
The only time we saw a "senior counselor" on TWW was the latter part of season 6 and season 7 when Leo took on that role after giving up his duties as chief of staff, A "White House Senior Counselor" is a staffer without portfolio, whom answers directly to the President. Most Presidents have at least two.
@@gabrielabagala Ya, I think in the modern white house you ahve your job title and then also some sorta title like "special advisor to the president" if your on the senior staff
A lot of the characterizations became shallower/more one-dimensional in Season 5 after Sorkin left the show, and was even more pronounced in the later seasons.
Michael Muldowney and as we all know, bob russel is the only person in the world (real and fictional) who has not even a code name from the secret service... 😊
Joshua Dworkin Agreed. Sorkin would have never written the storyline about Toby’s treason. Toby was a patriot and loyal servant of his country and his President.
"Mothers standing in front of tanks." That came directly from Tiananmen Square in China. That ONE Chinese student standing in front of a LINE of tanks.
I never understood why folks said that Joshua Malina was supposedly a bad actor and that he ruined the West Wing. There were no bad actors, any bad actors would have been given the boot after 2 episodes.
Excellent song from Penzance ... though Lionel Tribbey would mistakenly claim it's from Pinafore. Sam, as the recording secretary of the Princeton G&S society, could set him straight.
And in contrast, the current occupier of the oval would insist on loyalty to him and him alone and then make you sign a nda. Then tell you, go break the law, I have your back until your caught.
@MikeJames6 that statement makes no sense whatsoever, the nations of the world in the past always respected the US until trump became president then we make a nation of liars, cheats, misogynistic, hate spreading people all thanks to trump, a president who was supposed to unite the people but instead divided us even further and hopefully President Biden can restore us to the dignified standing we were before and maybe even "like us again".
@MikeJames6 Wow "dementia Joe", how original, attacking him with a illness that affects individuals Worldwide, typical trump supporter. But when Bunkerboy is rotting in jail who will get the last laugh.
It's actually neoliberalism. I mean I love this show, but in real life, it isn't nearly and black and white. This is just Sorkinizing the '92 Bosnian conflict.
@@stthomasaquarius - Correct president, wrong continent. It's wishful thinking about what they wish we would have done with regard to the Rwandan genocide. Watch the episodes again, and you will see it. Yes, there are tinges of Serbo-Croatia-Bosnia, but everything about the Equatorial Kundu storyline comes down to the essence of The West Wing. As one conservative critic correctly noted during the early seasons, it's the Clinton presidency as viewed by people envisioning what it would have been like without the Clinton sex scandal and his other failings. One of those is the failure to act regarding Rwanda, and the plot line seeks to correct that -- a fantasy world in which a president is confronted in the way they wish the real one had been and makes the right decision the real one did not.
I love it how every time Jed and Abbie kiss, she always wipes her lipstick off his lips or cheek or wherever, as if the President being seen with lipstick traces will affect the way people see him. Just great.
She looks pretty, but her hairstyle is downright silly. For me it detracts from the effect to have badly done Cindy Brady curls on a grown woman. No reflection on Janel, only on her stylist.
The West Wing is my favorite show of all time. My views have changed since it 1st aired, and I've learned; progressivism lends well to fiction. It is the most marvelous fiction though.
Until January of 2003, which would have been when Bartlet would have began his second term in the WestWingverse, there were two American Supreme Allied Commanders serving at one time. One was SACEUR and the other was SACLANT, Supreme Allied Commander Europe and Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic, respectively. The latter title was later abolished. SACEUR is usually also the Commander of U. S. European Command.
Iirc, SACEUR is also the Supreme Commader of all NATO forces, in particular, but not limited to, ground troops. By tradition, SACEUR has always been a three Star American General who reports directly to the Secretary General of NATO, as well as the Joint Chiefs. Also by tradition, his second i/c is a British officer one rank below, as ASACEUR, although memory fails if they are restricted to Army/Royal Marines, or whether that post is drawn from our four branches ...
While Will was no Sam, he was a pretty likable character in season 4. They butchered him in seasons 5 and 6 before he got back on track in season 7. I don't know why they completely turned the character on his head. The last thing Sam wrote to Toby about Will was that 'He's one of us' and then the writers basically showed the exact opposite in seasons 5 and 6.
THANK YOU. Perfectly summarized. Knowing how close he was to Sorkin, how he's essentially sorkin's lucky charm, I wonder if it was resentment on the part of the writing staff when they got stuck trying to make the show work after he left. Not saying AS was the indispensable genius HE thinks he is -- talented, yes, but with a lot of lazy writing habits/tics, a massive sexist chip on his shoulder, and an ego the size of Montana -- but it has to have been hard picking up the pieces after he left, especially given the bomb he dropped on the way out the door at the end of season 4 for them to defuse.
Dan Smith ruclips.net/video/TJ1qUG4ZKGE/видео.html Then, I remembered it was a drama series written by two great screenwriters and produced by a team for the viewing pleasure of ours, yours, mine, and countless others, most of whom watched an episode once on Thursday nights and never gave it a second thought. As it should be.
It should have been a Brigade of the 7th Infantry Division (Light), we were the first Light Infantry Division, & we were a Level 1 Combat Unit along with 82nd & 101st
I always wondered how this show would have dealt with Trump. Vinick was an old-school conservative who leaned just enough to the middle to almost win. This universe could never have imagined or conceived the radical perversion of MAGA, nor an electorate gullible and stupid enough to buy into it.
Vinick was a conservative in terms of arguing in favour of smaller government, lower taxes, support for business while deferring some areas of education and such to the states. But he wasn't a dogmatic right winger. In Canada we would have called him a Red Tory. In fact today I would call both Biden and Clinton Red Tories. What was impressive about those episodes was that although Bartlet championed his party's candidate to replace him as president he did leave the office confident that either Santos or Vinick were good people of strong character with a sincere desire to serve. The next guy wasn't going to wipe out Bartlet's legacy and hurt Americans out of spite. The MAGA doctrine is pure insanity for self interest. Truly horrific.
Only if Sorkin was behind the project. Anyone else then I'll pass on it. As for who should be the President the only logical choice would be Sam Seaborn. They practically foreshadowed it prior to Rob Lowe leaving the show. Have him come in as the current President in the pilot similar to how Bartlet was already President during the original pilot.
I was in this scene as one of the extras when they walk through the doors into the ballroom. I remember it being a long shoot day. From 10am tuesday morning to 4am wednesday the next morning. I had a lot of fun doing it. Martin Sheen and the guys on the show were pretty cool. The women not so much.
Which of the women were unfriendly ? Was that a typical length of time for the West Wing to shoot scenes ? Or was that particularly long for some reason ? Thanks for sharing your comment and experiences
What were the women like? Cranky for standing in high heels? Spill the beans! And wasn't Joshua simply wonderful? Although, he pulls pranks, so....stay away. Kate got a bug in her ear..
'Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful and committed citizens can change the world.' Damn right! I was in politics for many years myself and that was always my belief. As it was in 1776 it is now.
Where they walk through the crowd….thats small groups of dedicated citizens. And the part like the sea but also seem oblivious. So many levels to that.
It makes me sad to see all of those white people dancing at the end of the clip. I don't mean it's unrealistic or bad acting. Rather very bad dancing, and it just makes me sad.
Class, poise and elegance... that what was we could aspire to be. Not this garbage self serving narcissism Barney, House, Walter White, Charlie, Sheldon shit
because she's the Deputy Deputy Chief of Staff? really, because after the debacle with the Jack Reese quote, Josh wasn't going to let her out of his sight.
Why was Donna never made a special adviser she seemed to be doing a position somewhere in between a Senior Assistant and a Special Adviser. She was the only one of the Senior Assistants to have been invited to the ball.
because changing Donna's position would remove the pretext that keeps the tension with Josh ramped up to the nth degree. also, Josh Lyman wouldn't have been able to function without her.
I did and still do love this show and deeply appreciate the stories, the actors who gave their time and energy to its story’s execution. Thank you all…
*It is a privilege to serve at the 'White House' regardless of whether by appointment by POTUS or working with a 'Grounds Staff' removing the occasional 'dog poo'* __________ *The 'White House' represents the 'Might & Majesty' of America and to 'serve our Country' there is an honor...not a 'job'*
Notice, he didn’t ask for loyalty to him, president of the United States...
It’s loyalty to the work and to the position. Not the person that holds said position. There’s a stark difference to those that serve because they want to make a difference and those that only want to be seen making a difference.
Except the CoS. When CJ becomes CoS, Bartlet asks her to jump off a cliff.
@@redwall1521 well.... that wasn't written by Sorkin so I pretend those episodes don't exist.
You’re supposed to have loyalty to the president and his office. Anything short of that is treason.
Well obviously. What kind of narcissistic mad man would act that way?
what a wonderful group of actors and characters. the best show ever. period.
Without a doubt!
My daughter recently asked me what my favorite show of all time is, and I didn't even hesitate before saying, "The West Wing". It was a first for me, in that I had not watched a show based on politics before, but now I kind of love that genre. The amazing actors who made these characters come to life so much that you wanted to be in their world and you hated when a show ended. The humor, interspersed amongst the drama, was priceless. I laughed and cried during EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE.
No show has ever even come close to being this wonderful, at least for me.
No show comes close.
Newsroom too
@@stribe1000 I agree.not the same level, but very very close. And I'd like to see a new show with mix crew from both... Imagine a President CJ Cregg with Will McAvoy as Com Director, Charlie Young chief of Staff, Jim Harper in the speechwriter staff... and MacKenzie McHale Deputy Chief Of Staff 🙂
''I don't know what to say...''
''THAT'S what you wanna hear from your new Communications Deputy?''
LOL.
This is a scene I always come back to. When someone asks what TWW is about, it’s just this: Never doubt that a small group of committed citizens can change the world.
You know why?
It’s the only thing that ever has.
But what if those citizens are completely and utterly mistaken or delusional? As are those, for example, that continued to vote for Nancy Pelosi, the most corrupt and disgusting "politician" that has ever existed?
Great quote. Margaret Meade is attributed as saying it.
Boy, those where the days. How in the hell did we get to trump?
Part of it is that Martin Sheen is a great actor, but a big part of it is the moral depth and gravitas of Josiah Bartlett, but when he starts the commissioning by saying, "William Bailey..." That's the moment I go into tears.
How can you not cry? And how can you not laugh while you're crying? Donna's comment to Josh, Josh's comment to Will, Will's confusion, the underlying humor in Jed Bartlett's very nature...it all makes me laugh, while at the same time being so moved and touched that this group of people could create this incredible magic that the tears just start flowing.
"Mothers are standing in front of tanks... and we're gonna go get their backs."
Great line...
I could kiss you. (metaphorically)
Reminds me of this from Toby: "You see what I did with 'lowers' and 'raises' there? It's called the science of listener attention. We did repetition, we did floating opposites, and now the one that's not like the others." (from s2e16)
As a former member of the 82nd Airborne, that would be a mission I could get behind.
The President, First Lady and senior staff walking through the crowd with that majestic score playing......perfection! LOVE TWW!!
“That’s you too!”
“I know.”
How is it that even the simplest of lines can be so powerful and memorable? Sorkin truly is a master.
1:38 What did Josh say to Donna? "Don't speak to me without addressing me as 'wild thing'?" 😄
"You make my heart sing ...."
I’ve watched this dozens of times and only just seen, the President gives Will the pen. He glances back as if to give it to Charlie, then looks at the pen, glances at Will, and hands it to him. You wonder if it was on the script, or just Martin Sheen being his usual brilliance 🤩🤩🤩
Damn you Sorkin! You show us a president and a Whitehouse of our dreams and we are stuck with one from our nightmares
They are all nightmares compared to reality, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, are real flawed, corrupt, selfish people, who sometimes manage to do something good in doing aload of awful things. Tv presidents don't have to run for anything, they don't have to pay for anything, deal with 10000 conflicting desires the people want/need.
Love Sorkin but he was gone at this point as a writer I believe. He left after season 4
Not for much longer.
@@prospero4183 It's because most of them are establishment. Politics is not what the West Wing portrayed as this glorious way of promoting change because you want it, nor is it the bitter negotiating that House of Cards portrays, although HoC is closer to reality than the WW. Politics is a one party system where they play good cop bad cop and we the people are the ones who actually get f*cked by everyone.
@@prospero4183 "Tv presidents don't have to run for anything" and yet here the USA was, not too long ago and not for much longer either.
"Most of them quite recently." Having once taught at a college literally down the street from Ft. Bragg, this resonates for me quite powerfully. I know those folks, I know their spouses.
Thank you - and them for your service. With best wishes from the UK.
"Because it's the only thing that ever has."
But what about all the bigs? You know, big oil, big pharma, big banks, etc.
i scanned to see if anyone beat me to it.... poop.
Gokul Varadan : You need to get off the internet for a while and smell the flowers Gokul.
I have never watched this scene, heard that line, and not cried.
The only time we saw a "senior counselor" on TWW was the latter part of season 6 and season 7 when Leo took on that role after giving up his duties as chief of staff, A "White House Senior Counselor" is a staffer without portfolio, whom answers directly to the President. Most Presidents have at least two.
A Senior Counselor to the President is anyone the President chooses to listen to. It can be two or two hundred.
In the 3d season Toby presented himself as "White House Communications Director and Senior Counselor"
@@gabrielabagala Ya, I think in the modern white house you ahve your job title and then also some sorta title like "special advisor to the president" if your on the senior staff
*who
"I don't know what to say..."
"Well, that's what you want to hear from your new Deputy Communications Director."
LOLapalooza. :D
And then he got up one morning and bumped his head and went off to try to get Bingo Bob chosen as a the nominee for President.
A lot of the characterizations became shallower/more one-dimensional in Season 5 after Sorkin left the show, and was even more pronounced in the later seasons.
Joshua Dworkin
Different writers.
Michael Muldowney and as we all know, bob russel is the only person in the world (real and fictional) who has not even a code name from the secret service... 😊
Joshua Dworkin
Agreed. Sorkin would have never written the storyline about Toby’s treason. Toby was a patriot and loyal servant of his country and his President.
Why do I get the chills every time I watch these clips? Is it wishing it was real?
It is for me
"Mothers standing in front of tanks."
That came directly from Tiananmen Square in China. That ONE Chinese student standing in front of a LINE of tanks.
I never understood why folks said that Joshua Malina was supposedly a bad actor and that he ruined the West Wing.
There were no bad actors, any bad actors would have been given the boot after 2 episodes.
Oh I disagree... that blonde woman (Kate?) was annoyingly bad. Or maybe it was just the screenwriting for her character.
@@Elisheval Mary McCormack as Kate Harper? She wasn't blonde.
Will makes my heart skip a beat.
There is a great scene when Bartlet is talking to Will about his father and says "talk about the very model of a modern major general."
Excellent song from Penzance ... though Lionel Tribbey would mistakenly claim it's from Pinafore. Sam, as the recording secretary of the Princeton G&S society, could set him straight.
@@kdmdlo you people make me want to vomit. find a new hobby
cryin'. this show was on another level.
I actually really like Will, I just watched this scene and so far he's pretty charismatic and goofy. I like it!
Very different in The Big Bang
He didn't have to deal with Sheldon in WW...then again Bartlet did like obscure facts...
Check out sports night
I love, love, love Will. He would be the absolute best next president.
This show was so good!!! I miss this show a lot..
Thanks..
You are welcomed.
I don't. I watch it on re-runs, and Netflix, and I have the dvd's. :) I struggle to not re-watch the series more than twice a year.
I miss competent, mentally healthy presidents a lot.
Greatest show ever written
Can Stockard Channing appear more elegant?
she appears less elegant in Practical Magic, but no less dynamic and powerful. The cast of the TWW was simply amazing.
Certainly, Rizzo was the embodiment of elegance :)
love that he mentioned Sam in this scene.
It's a shame that Lowe left the show. I would've liked to see Sam on the show in his new role at the same time that Will was on the show.
Joe McKim at least we got to see him return at the end of the Santos campaign
And in contrast, the current occupier of the oval would insist on loyalty to him and him alone and then make you sign a nda. Then tell you, go break the law, I have your back until your caught.
Sadly thats so true, but after November we can start rebuilding our standing in the world again.
@MikeJames6 that statement makes no sense whatsoever, the nations of the world in the past always respected the US until trump became president then we make a nation of liars, cheats, misogynistic, hate spreading people all thanks to trump, a president who was supposed to unite the people but instead divided us even further and hopefully President Biden can restore us to the dignified standing we were before and maybe even "like us again".
@MikeJames6 And trump is bought and paid for by mother Russia. 🇷🇺
@MikeJames6 Wow "dementia Joe", how original, attacking him with a illness that affects individuals Worldwide, typical trump supporter. But when Bunkerboy is rotting in jail who will get the last laugh.
@MikeJames6 You are pathetic, I would say you are a waste of humanity but you are far from being human, so the worst I can call you is a "trumpet"
Every episode of this entire drama just leaves me in awe...
(Your awe is making you forget mediocrities like "Access" and "Ninety Miles Away.")
@@tejaswoman maybe, but even a bad episode of this show is light years ahead of most.
Ah, political courage. Would that it existed outside Sorkin fiction.
smilingkevin Oh, if it did, MS or no, I'd vote for a Jeb Bartlett in a heartbeat!
+ anchorskid oh hell yeah, me too Bartlett for president 2020!!
Democrats do love wars to cover their failings
It's actually neoliberalism. I mean I love this show, but in real life, it isn't nearly and black and white.
This is just Sorkinizing the '92 Bosnian conflict.
@@stthomasaquarius - Correct president, wrong continent. It's wishful thinking about what they wish we would have done with regard to the Rwandan genocide. Watch the episodes again, and you will see it. Yes, there are tinges of Serbo-Croatia-Bosnia, but everything about the Equatorial Kundu storyline comes down to the essence of The West Wing. As one conservative critic correctly noted during the early seasons, it's the Clinton presidency as viewed by people envisioning what it would have been like without the Clinton sex scandal and his other failings. One of those is the failure to act regarding Rwanda, and the plot line seeks to correct that -- a fantasy world in which a president is confronted in the way they wish the real one had been and makes the right decision the real one did not.
That is the sort of situation where anyone can be forgiven for needing to perform a hard reset on their brain.
Politics idealized and glamorized. Then there's the real world.
I love it how every time Jed and Abbie kiss, she always wipes her lipstick off his lips or cheek or wherever, as if the President being seen with lipstick traces will affect the way people see him. Just great.
Josh to Donna: "Hey, what'd I say about speaking to me without addressing me as 'Wild Thing'?"
Gawd, Donna looked exquisite in that dress.
Was just going to say the same thing..Damn, when they do up Janelle Maloney, she's amazing...
She looks pretty, but her hairstyle is downright silly. For me it detracts from the effect to have badly done Cindy Brady curls on a grown woman. No reflection on Janel, only on her stylist.
If only we aren’t going to choose between two dementia patients 🤬 Why can’t we have a president resembling Bartlet?
I say pick the one who doesn't want to dismantle Democracy.
The West Wing is my favorite show of all time. My views have changed since it 1st aired, and I've learned; progressivism lends well to fiction. It is the most marvelous fiction though.
Notice how Charlie just automatically moved into position behind Jed with the pen and the Seal?
Until January of 2003, which would have been when Bartlet would have began his second term in the WestWingverse, there were two American Supreme Allied Commanders serving at one time. One was SACEUR and the other was SACLANT, Supreme Allied Commander Europe and Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic, respectively. The latter title was later abolished. SACEUR is usually also the Commander of U. S. European Command.
Iirc, SACEUR is also the Supreme Commader of all NATO forces, in particular, but not limited to, ground troops. By tradition, SACEUR has always been a three Star American General who reports directly to the Secretary General of NATO, as well as the Joint Chiefs. Also by tradition, his second i/c is a British officer one rank below, as ASACEUR, although memory fails if they are restricted to Army/Royal Marines, or whether that post is drawn from our four branches ...
@@nigelft DSACEUR as in Deputy
The title was Supreme Allied Commander Europe
One of the best shows ever made
the *GREATEST* show in the _HISTORY_ of television.
While Will was no Sam, he was a pretty likable character in season 4. They butchered him in seasons 5 and 6 before he got back on track in season 7. I don't know why they completely turned the character on his head. The last thing Sam wrote to Toby about Will was that 'He's one of us' and then the writers basically showed the exact opposite in seasons 5 and 6.
THANK YOU. Perfectly summarized. Knowing how close he was to Sorkin, how he's essentially sorkin's lucky charm, I wonder if it was resentment on the part of the writing staff when they got stuck trying to make the show work after he left. Not saying AS was the indispensable genius HE thinks he is -- talented, yes, but with a lot of lazy writing habits/tics, a massive sexist chip on his shoulder, and an ego the size of Montana -- but it has to have been hard picking up the pieces after he left, especially given the bomb he dropped on the way out the door at the end of season 4 for them to defuse.
I think they wanted to seperate Will from Sam by having him be with Russell.
I can't see Sam going against Josh like that.
"..... it's the only thing that ever has"
Stockard Channing can make a scene great without a word of dialogue.
lol i like the mention of fox oh boy does that hit home lately stupid fox news what a horrible channel lol
Bartlet sent a MASSIVE! force to Khundu. Did anybody catch that?
Sonic3nKnuckles sure did
Will should have said "Deputy?.....of the local sheriff's department?"
Will was always my least favorite character.
1:57 ~ 2:08 - When I heard the line the first time, it was inspiring. Now it just sends chills in my bones.
I wonder why that is.
And becoming more chilling by the day
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Then, I remembered it was a drama series written by two great screenwriters and produced by a team for the viewing pleasure of ours, yours, mine, and countless others, most of whom watched an episode once on Thursday nights and never gave it a second thought.
As it should be.
When I feel bad about what happens in this country, a scene like this helps me calm down and feel better.
Don't feel bad - feel proud. We've got YOUR back. Best wishes from the UK.
Gotta love the Margeret Mead line
James Taihuttu wish she’d been given credit.
It should have been a Brigade of the 7th Infantry Division (Light), we were the first Light Infantry Division, & we were a Level 1 Combat Unit along with 82nd & 101st
send the 10th mountain! fort Drumm
climb to glory!
got bless special opps, god bless artillery and amazing pilots men and woman god bless they are there!, but when doors need kicked in go to the 10th
Didn't I hear that there was a new version of this show in the works?
Such a great scene.
I always wondered how this show would have dealt with Trump. Vinick was an old-school conservative who leaned just enough to the middle to almost win. This universe could never have imagined or conceived the radical perversion of MAGA, nor an electorate gullible and stupid enough to buy into it.
Vinick was a conservative in terms of arguing in favour of smaller government, lower taxes, support for business while deferring some areas of education and such to the states. But he wasn't a dogmatic right winger. In Canada we would have called him a Red Tory. In fact today I would call both Biden and Clinton Red Tories. What was impressive about those episodes was that although Bartlet championed his party's candidate to replace him as president he did leave the office confident that either Santos or Vinick were good people of strong character with a sincere desire to serve. The next guy wasn't going to wipe out Bartlet's legacy and hurt Americans out of spite. The MAGA doctrine is pure insanity for self interest. Truly horrific.
You’d think there was another way out of that place that would have made more sense
Would anyone watch these show if got a reboot in who u make the president
Only if Sorkin was behind the project. Anyone else then I'll pass on it. As for who should be the President the only logical choice would be Sam Seaborn. They practically foreshadowed it prior to Rob Lowe leaving the show. Have him come in as the current President in the pilot similar to how Bartlet was already President during the original pilot.
I was in this scene as one of the extras when they walk through the doors into the ballroom. I remember it being a long shoot day. From 10am tuesday morning to 4am wednesday the next morning. I had a lot of fun doing it. Martin Sheen and the guys on the show were pretty cool. The women not so much.
If you really screw up a shoot by running that long, then you are going to get not so nice women.
Which of the women were unfriendly ? Was that a typical length of time for the West Wing to shoot scenes ? Or was that particularly long for some reason ? Thanks for sharing your comment and experiences
What were the women like? Cranky for standing in high heels? Spill the beans! And wasn't Joshua simply wonderful? Although, he pulls pranks, so....stay away. Kate got a bug in her ear..
Nice liberal propaganda
Oh, look. An articulate an thinking president! Who knew.
'Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful and committed citizens can change the world.' Damn right! I was in politics for many years myself and that was always my belief. As it was in 1776 it is now.
Where they walk through the crowd….thats small groups of dedicated citizens. And the part like the sea but also seem oblivious. So many levels to that.
It makes me sad to see all of those white people dancing at the end of the clip. I don't mean it's unrealistic or bad acting. Rather very bad dancing, and it just makes me sad.
i imagine Will calling his father at 4a.m., after they've gotten a hindle on things, just to let him know.
i imagine his father bursting with pride.
President Bartlett
Richard Schiff said he would sarcastically to say to Josh Malina now and again “We USED to win awards…… until you showed up.”
Will: Ok you guys go get them I’ll just stand here!
Leo: That’s you too.
Will: Shit. Uhhhh ok.
And thus ended his career in the Air Force Reserves.
I miss this show
I wish people in government acted like this, but I suppose they never have .
When Toby and CJ give each other a look, is it because he said, "badly written" and not "poorly written"?
What does Leo say right before Josh starts talking about the buzzing?
"...I'm sorry everyone but this is a work night..."
Class, poise and elegance... that what was we could aspire to be. Not this garbage self serving narcissism Barney, House, Walter White, Charlie, Sheldon shit
Too bad this is just a tv show
Good show except for the last 2 seasons
Cause someone's gotta ask.... What is Donna doing here?
TheAudioman15 because she’s on the cast?
@@kelvinktfong So out of place. She is not senior staff.
because she's the Deputy Deputy Chief of Staff? really, because after the debacle with the Jack Reese quote, Josh wasn't going to let her out of his sight.
Sorkin sure loves cramming character biographies into his dialogue.
*Allison Janney looks 'regally stunning' in that gown but I'm aware I'm influenced by the woman I love who's 6'-1" in heels which she never wears*
the first few seconds... guys back me up on this... when a girl gives you a 1 second kiss, then spends a minute wiping her lipstick off your face....
Where is the scene where they test Will to see if he can say NO to power? It's brilliant!
Holy Night. The Christmas episode in season 4. Episode 11.
Why was Donna never made a special adviser she seemed to be doing a position somewhere in between a Senior Assistant and a Special Adviser. She was the only one of the Senior Assistants to have been invited to the ball.
because changing Donna's position would remove the pretext that keeps the tension with Josh ramped up to the nth degree. also, Josh Lyman wouldn't have been able to function without her.
She becomes the first lady's Chief of staff in the last season
@@johnobrien7562 I like how no one in the senior staff even questions it when she's there. They all know why.
I did and still do love this show and deeply appreciate the stories, the actors who gave their time and energy to its story’s execution. Thank you all…
Love CJ in red. Engines revved!
We are not the worlds police, Bartlett Send your kids over there to fight
It's the only thing that ever has
The virtue is strong with this one!
Damn I miss this show
this froggy little dude always reminds me of a Simpson's character.
*It is a privilege to serve at the 'White House' regardless of whether by appointment by POTUS or working with a 'Grounds Staff' removing the occasional 'dog poo'*
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*The 'White House' represents the 'Might & Majesty' of America and to 'serve our Country' there is an honor...not a 'job'*
Learn how quotation marks work, spaz
I miss this show
"Who's Will Bailey, sir?"
I wish, US leaders has guts as the president Bartlet...
Mawkish and twee
Toby always looks like he's swallowed something sour
does anyone know what the pin the men are wearing on their suit lapels.
I did...that's enough soldiers to invade half of Africa :P
Mr Sheen nails Acting Presidential.
Season 4 was soooo good.
I didn’t know that these appointments were seal approved. Wow🇺🇸
the greatest show in the history of television....
I love this scene. Peak West Wing.