I like the idea of Elemental being the very first story in the timeline. Seeing how small the world seems to be when we see the globe, my theory is that when an element dies (air dissipates, water evaporates, earth crumbles, fire fizzles) they return to the world and over billions of years the "corpses" of these characters will form the actual earth as we see it from good dinosaur forward. I'm also a huge fan of ancient advanced technology stories so the idea of there being this massive utopian metropolis way before even dinosaurs is really cool to me.
That’s so depressing, but also poetic in a way. So Elemental is the new first in the timeline, it also shows that dead pieces of matter can become alive through emotions and memories. They all have long since been dead, that could also explain how the moon in the movie looks closer than it does in other movies. Because the moon originally was way closer to the earth than now.
That's exactly what I'm thinking! I also thought perhaps the reason everything is the way it is in Pixar is because of the elements, maybe the reason memories work the way they do is because of these elements some how or even the reason animals are smart. Just something to chew on.
@@stefanovallecillos6956 I like those thoughts. And I also notice that the Elemental world is incredibly clean despite all of the industrious technology. And I like your moon distance detail and how that correlates to Pixar's Earth millions of years ago. And one who heavily loves Elemental, I now like to imagine that the world is the way it is thanks to them.
Actually that would be so cool. Have the ride vehicles be orbs, sort of like the sky liner but more circular. Then make it look like you’re in water and look around and see stuff from the movie
Can't we just say how great the concept art looks, I like the more watercolor-like aesthetic the concept art has, kinda wish the movie was made in this style
I like the notion that the supers powers come from them having an excess of one emotion within them that manifests in a outward way. Like Violet Parr. Her name evokes Shrinking Violets and her power is invisibility and force fields which are protective self preserving type powers which happen due to say it with me now FEAR. Violet has too much fear in her as a person. Maybe due to being a teenage girl or maybe it is just part of her DNA as a whole but she is too fearful and that manifested itself in her powers to protect her against them. I don't know how it links to some of the other supers but I deffo feel it is possibly one of the explanations for Supers and their powers. Having a little to much of a certain emotion within the body and the body turning it into something else to almost like externally use that emotion for good.
Crazy thing is I kinda want Elemental to get a sequel or more content (which I doubt it) because there is a lot of potential and interesting ideas for the story to continue forward. Edit:I even had an idea for the sequel where both Ember and Wade decide to go back to visit their parents in Element City, but time has changed, and they haven't seen them for so long that they feel a bit disconnected from them and the similar situation can be said for their parent, while they would be a lot more friendly and maybe even visit each other they also a bit distance as well especially with the times changing and society giving them new influences. I even had this idea for the villains of the story first starting off as a typical one-off random couple but as the story goes on Ember and Wade realize how toxic they are to themselves, their own relatives, and others. Once they know their backstory they realize the couple is actually Clod’s parents and they are trying to find Clod, who was taken far away as a baby by a relative or someone in order to escape the abusive relationship. Realizing this, Wade and Ember decided to make sure they never met Clod again.
I see no reason why it can’t be both the origin story and something that is happening all the time. I kind of like the idea that we‘ll never know for sure
@@lesleypena1305 Funny you should say that. I hear that one of the main rules of physics is that matter cannot be created nor destoryed. But from what I have recently learned, that is not 100% the case. In a quantum scale that is.
I like to believe that Ember and Wade truly are the first inter-elemental couple, since we don't see any mixed elementals in the entire movie and because of Ember's line "Elements don't mix" suggesting that there haven't been any inter-elemental relationships before. After seeing Ember and Wade able to have a successful relationship, more elementals began mixing and matching, followed their example, eventually creating all the living things of our universe. Remnants of elemental ancestry still remain in the form of super-powered humans of "The Incredibles" who have an excess of one or more elements.
A few thoughts that I have: 1. I actually thought that Elemental looked similar to Inside Out before watching it, and I even watched Inside Out the night before watching Elemental. So I'm glad that you eventually saw a connection between the two movies too! 😊 2. I've heard that when you're angry it's often because of a subconscious fear. So it makes sense that Ember gets red AND purple, considering that she has these mixed emotions. 3. I love the orbs/memories that you pointed out. I absolutely love the scene where they touch for the first time, and having it be a memory makes it so much more special. However, I'm confused about how this would be the pivotal moment of the Pixar Theory. What would this moment cause to happen? Would that lead to the story of the dinosaurs? Or would souls be created? I need more explanation as to how this would be the origin story. 4. This is a love story within the world of elements. Most love stories would be about two trees or two airs. But this is a fire and a water falling in love. I'd like to think of it as an intercultural relationship. They don't happen that often, but it hasn't happened just once. So to answer your question, I think that Wade and Ember's love story isn't the only one where two different elements come together. We even see the air and earth elements who start to get interested in each other at the end of the story. Maybe Wade and Ember were the first to have this chemistry change, maybe not. All that matters to me is that we got to see their personal experience, because every love story is going to be different from the next! 💞💞💞💞
I think the orb moment matters because Ambers glass-orbs looks exactly like the memory orbs of Inside Out. So maybe elementals provide the bodies of characters with certain things? Like Fire can create the orbs for memories, water creates tears and everything fluid, earth makes everything solid like our cells, air is maybe involved with the senses or breathing.
Haven't seen the movie, and just discovered this channel, but is the idea that the elements have existed since the beginning (prior to animals and people), and since chemical reactions are generally the cause of all life on earth (and various other processes), this first "reaction" is what will eventually lead to things like dinosaurs, other animals, and people. Without this reaction, everything would still be in the elemental stages. Though even if this isn't the first time a "reaction" has happened (though in the movie, the general rule is "elements don't mix"), it's still part of this beginning stage of reactions that will eventually lead to other forms of life on earth, so it's important regardless - and since other elements were witness to it, it causes other elements to start reacting too, and that gets the ball rolling (and it's obviously a metaphor for mixed-race relationships). I also like the idea that others have mentioned - that this could be taking place both before AND after other stages of life on earth - it can be a cycle, or it can be the idea that time is just a perception, so everything kinda happens simultaneously and at all times.
We need a video explaining how Raya, Encanto, Strange World, and eventually Wish will fit into the Disneyverse theory. It hasn’t been updated in three years.
Raya is somewhere in Moana’s world druns act like the darkness spread by the loss of heart. Moana takes place on the opposite side of earth from frozen 2. Strange world is another planet. Encanto is in Columbia
@@ked49 cool but I kinda want a timeline for it like Pixar has (i know Moana is like ancient and Frozen is the 1840s and Encanto is c. 1900-1950 but still)
this is interesting to learn, when I saw Elemental I felt like it was the very end past the Monsters Inc series like we've seen monsters have some kind of form of either controlling elements or adapting to elements so I was thinking that the monsters now evolved to be 4 pure elements but with how this can be the beginning too can work very well
It could also be a post apocalyptic type situation where the monsters have collaaped it all and reduced the earth to only the basic elements which then lead to other life again.
Honestly, I had this same theory, but with the supers from the Incredibles. Like the supers evolved with their powers and the Earth evolved with them. They slowly merged with their powers over time. This might also explain why they have fences and and other human structures and why Wade said "Why do they even have these"?
When I was watching this for my first time, I was sad when Wade evaporated until my sister said “ Don’t worry, he will come back, I learned that from the water cycle. I would of laughed if I wasn’t in the theater.
I wouldn't make that comparison. At least I could tolerate Ember's voice. Seriously, even the coffee machine guy didn't think Rosalie Chiang's voice was super grating?
I think thats just Pixars standard character now. Tons of their movies have a child who doesn't want to be like their family. Turning Red, Coco, Brave, Planes, Ratatouille, etc.
@@tomdaturtle5792 most don’t have the dynamic of immigrant families like Turning Red and Elemental do. Ember and Mei are both children of immigrant parents expected to both maintain the culture their family came from while adapting to the culture they actually live in. Yeah a lot of Pixar films have a parent-child dynamic (including Inside Out) but the immigrant culture dynamic adds another layer to that plot line that we hadn’t seen from other Pixar films.
I think Ember and Wade touch is the FIRST time the element starts reacting with each other. As we know earlier in the movie the rules is "elements dont mix" but Ember and Wade show them that elements CAN mix/create chemical reaction. After that, at the end of the movie and continuing forward, the mix of elements and the reaction can happen all the time all around the world But it makes me think does energy in the pixar universe can be created or destroyed?
I find it very odd how they have human technology that is pointless to them. They don’t need chain link fences for example( Ember & Wade just walk through them and Wade literally questions why they use them).
@@W3LSHDR4G0 Is a joke worth degrading the world building? Also, making fun of parts of your world that don't make sense doesn't make it a good joke. That would be like if they made a joke about how the trains make water fall over the fire area. "It was a joke" doesn't matter
I've always liked the idea of Elemental, and will check the movie out at some point. Not surprised to hear that the movie has gotten hate, I'm kinda resigning myself to the fact that so many people have a "hate everything" attitude when it comes to movies nowadays.
A lot of people have an "old good, new bad" mentality nowadays and I think that's a bad mentality to have. No one likes to try anything new now. They just automatically assume a new show, movie, or game is gonna be bad
I think that Ember and Wade touching was the origin because only then the Elements start loving each other and mixing. But it's also possible that Embers and Wades are happening all the time but unlikely because we see that Fire and Water hate each other throughout the movie and that there's very few instances of Water people meeting Fire people, but it could have still happened, only in secret. But Wade and Ember made such a deal out of their relationship and every Fire person eventually knew of their relationship and eventually all of the city, and only then did the elements realise that they could mix. But either way Ember and Wade touching was the origin of everything.
Honestly, I don’t get why a lot of people don’t like this when they haven’t even seen it 🙄 but this is one of my favourite Pixar movie I love it so much
It doesn’t appeal to me, because the character designs look wrong to me (not saying they’re bad. Just that to _me personally_ they don’t work.), and the advertising made it look like a movie I wouldn’t enjoy.
It isnt bad but people are just a bit too tired about the whole outsider and rebel protagonist who tries to overcome generational trauma at this point. The marketing was bad for this one.
So, in all seriousness, almost every culture of antiquity, references water, earth, fire, air, as the key building blocks, not just of life, but of Spirituality... which, if you ask me, plays into the Pixar Theory perfectly. Awesome video!!! Another phenomenal deep dive into this, is another franchise near and dear to your hearts... Avatar the Last Airbender. When Uncle Iroh explains the 4 elements to Zuko, and also when the Guru explains the Chakras to Aang.
Someone please clear this up for me: are the wood that fire people eat throughout the movie to regenerate dead trees? Are they emotionless? (Regular everyday trees?) is this some sort of screwed up thing we didn’t notice??? Also why don’t fire people light any cloth on fire
I think the water people always crying is just wade and his family. When they are at the sport event and wade becomes emotional the other water elementals look at him as though he is strange. And we don't see water elements outside the wade family always crying. It could just be that we see way more of their family though
So if Wade and Ember were to have kids, would they be steam? For instance, water and earth would be mud, earth and fire would be lava, fire and air would be heat (or lightning), air and water would be...ice I think, water and fire make steam, and earth and air would make...sand I think
And for those who wanted a sequel/were wondering what a sequel could be this, you have the answer. Your idea of mixing the other elements could make for a great series. What happens when the other elements start mixing and you have a younger generation that is a mix of both of their parents and now something different? How do they navigate the world? Quick question: how would steam be different from air?
my personal theory that i came up with after just seeing the movie was that it was like that one online game Little Alchemy where bit by bit the elements would mix and create whole new things, so like Ember and Wade would ultimately result in a steam creature
So, you're saying the movie is a metaphor for how the universe and elements create everything? That's actually really cool and creative! Good job guys!
Man, I loved this movie so much. I’m going through a similar situation to Ember and I actually cried after she bowed to her dad. “Sometimes, when I lose my temper, I think it’s just me trying to tell me something I’m not ready to hear.” “That’s ridiculous.” 😂
A bit off-topic, but I feel like Elemental succeeding or not will be a lose-lose situation to unless by some miracle it at least breaks even at the box office last minute or does well in its merchandise. If it continues to flop then Disney will double down and use it as an excuse to continue its bad habits and the other way is to be successful when it goes on a steaming service which can have a domino effect for future Pixar films.
@@vrgamer6644 It doesn't really matter how much fans are saying they want original stories if it doesn't translate into box office performance. It's a business. The only way to get to more original movies is that people see them in theaters.
I couldn't think of how Elemental would connect to the Pixar Theory until I saw this video. Amazing job. I can't wait to see how the next Pixar movie, Elio, connects to the Pixar Theory as well. If you ask me, I think it connects well already with the whole concept of the "united advance pieces of the UNIVERSE."
I think its a love story that takes place all over, after all none of the other characters seem put out or super surprised about it, heck even Gale said "you two are a cute couple" and that was before they even admitted it to themselves. The only ones who seemed put off by the coupling was her and her father for the most part. And her father was representing the old ways and old beliefs and she was following her Dad's beliefs which is what the whole movie is about. So I think its just one instance we are following while the story though its happening everywhere, heck even the earth child in the very beginning of the movie is making moves outside his element. So it's probably a generation thing.
I very much agree with you! Even the part that shows the Grandmother on her deathbed has one last dying wish, for Ember to marry fire. If relationships between the elements was not a thing, why would the Grandmother ever say that? It would make no sense. I think this is just a generational thing and not something that is really new to the community.
I think maybe perhaps Fire specifically can’t be with Water. I’m sure Water with Earth or Air with Water work just fine. So inter-elemental couples weren’t unheard of, but Water and Fire might have been. And some people (Gale) are more open to the idea of it being possible.
I love how these guys can figure out how to fit Pixar movies in the Pixar universe. I'd like to see them do some stuff about Guardians of the Galaxy, Across the Spider-verse, and Secret Invasion.
Definitely agree that Elemental is the origin point of life in the Pixar universe. To have life expressed in such abstract forms makes total sense as a starting point, with life getting progressively more complex in subsequent films, and these elements are things that pre-date life itself in reality, not to mention the elements serving as foundational sources of life in many mythologies. The concept of the elements as origin points for life is truly primordial. Want another example? If you want to lean upon Pokemon's mythology with respect to the legendary Pokemon, Generation III's trio included Groudon (Fire/Earth), Kyogre (Water) and Rayquazza (Air) being responsible for the physical creation of the Earth, its continents, oceans and the sky, and each of these legendaries being the lords of their respective domains. Until we get a Pixar movie dealing with cosmic energy and celestials, Elemental appears to be first in the timeline (though one could argue that the Jerrys in Soul are celestials, though that movie takes place in a period of time in which humanity exists, and Elemental pre-dates humanity).
It's interesting that you point out the parallels between Inside Out and Elemental. I feel like we don't get enough evidence to decide that this is just the start of everything, instead I think it's exactly like the Inside Out situation, and these characters are inside somebodies head. It makes sense that different people would have their minds arranged differently. It also explains why human things, like the chain link fence, exists.
As an aside, I've personally never felt so connected to a movie. After going through a rough patch in a very close friendship with a girl (which i thought was love), this movie became a very cathartic experience. I saw it 11 times, at first because i thought it was an excellent movie - which it is. But i realised that it was because Ember and Wade had what I wished for. It gave me a fresh perspective on life, to not wallow in despair at a daunting, lonely future ahead, but to take chances and truly take every opportunity i could. As they say; Tishok; you dont have forever, so go do it. I try live that up every day Thanks for reading, lovelies. And thank you, Pixar and Elemental 🌹
If fire and water had touched before, I'm sure someone would have recorded that moment. Just seeing these two on screen, surpassing their differences, changing their chemistry, with the love they have for one another, proving everyone wrong. Man I love this movie. Beautiful.
Spoilers: There is a scene where Wade and Ember are in the boss' office. And a globe is visible that Ember shoves in Wade's mouth to shush him. Where there is a little red island (for the fire elements) visible. So that indicates that Elemental takes place on another planet. And the star when Wade and Ember are on the beach is much more vast in visual than the sun back on Earth. EDIT: A moon is seen, just VERY huge... Long story short, it is another planet, like Onward. And I do not think they are microscopic beings at all.
This does seem to make sense, everything is composed from elements (in religion its says humans are made from the earth) and elements from Elemental being linked to the emotions from Inside Out also explains why there are expressions like "burning rage" so i could see this at the VERY start. Basically the elements soon became the building blocks of all life leading to Good Dinosaur and it continues as stated in PixarTheory
I'd say yes, the elemental world is an origin point. Maybe the beginning of the the actual emotions in a person's brain. Except... butterflies are mentioned. This isn't before animals were a thing. It can't be before EVERYTHING. Maybe it takes place in a brain or something... Osmosis Jones style? But more... vague? Gah, I don't know. But this is definitely onto something.
So like, this is supposed to be before any other life existed? Like once enough elements came together and changed, they somehow, over enough time, changed into the emotions which means that the emotions existed even before any other life did, and then, all the energy generated from these memories somehow went into dirt and created life for the first ever time!?
Again, I want to voice my opinion that Emotion is the base for everything in the Pixar universe. Since Memories are comprised of emotions. (You even say here that love creates energy, emotions and everything. Which is an emotion.)
Why did ember not extinguish from loss of oxygen during the finale sene where (Spoiler Alert) ||wade evaporates|| , why did ember not disappear from lack of oxygen? I love goofy Pixar science lol
I aww this movie with my girlfriend and kept thinking “what would I do in this situation” and then wade does that exact thing. After we got out my girlfriend said “you’re 1000% wade” and I just went yeah Pixar didn’t need to call me out like that
I am just out of words, this is incredible if its the Pixar theory and someone at Pixar came up with this but the fact that you theorized this and have so much tenacity while bringing this out there theory together.....wow. I got chills!
I'm still confused how Elemental fits the Pixar Theory, but I can definitely see fire 🔥 in the top half and water 💦 in the bottom half of the "orb" that you point out appears when they touch for the first time. Nice catch.
Elemental is how the universe was created. Cuz in real life elements formed new elements that created the whole universe. So this is like the beginning of the universe, or the Pixar Universe
I had no idea this movie existed until I saw the thumbnail, but as someone living in The Netherlands, Elemental doesnt come out here for a few more weeks. So if I wanna watch it, I would need to go to a different country and spend way too much on travel expenses. Or wait and probably forget this video was posted. Since I enjoy SCB pixar theory too much, I guess I'm getting spoiled.😅
So an element cant really react to anything else if it doesnt have an open electron to use to bond right...? I like the idea that yeah maybe fire and water may have touched before but wade and ember were finally open to change xD so THATS why they reacted the way they did when they touched
Why didn’t Wade die? That’s my biggest problem with the movie, if he would’ve stayed dead then that would’ve _actually_ given the movie a message, “Your actions have consequences.” But I feel like Wade coming back is just the Disney execs. saying, “Hey, no. Bad good writers. We need to keep things open for a sequel.”
Honestly, this works. I was wondering if maybe the storm that destroyed Bernie’s home and caused them to move to Element City could somehow play a role in how it connects.
Okay but whyyyy don't I see more videos on Elemental on your channel? There are so many small, awsome details in the movie that for sure are worth a theory 🤩
Will you do a review of this movie I like watching your reviews to see what other people thought about the movie and maybe you could point out some Easter eggs that I missed
The explanation of how Elemental explains the energy we get from memories and how the elemnts fit into emotion is really good, but stepping back into that chemical level again...the elements literally make uo everything else too. Elements (whether the base for elemental elements like fire and water, or the periodic table) are literally the building blocks of life as we know it, and we can clearly see there's non-living elements in Elemental (the water the Vivisteria tree is under, the tree itself, the air they breathe, the fires they cook with, the ground they walk on, the buildings they create, etc). This movie explains so much more in the Pixar Theory than just the memories and emotions, it explains how those memories and emotions give life to the toys and the cars, how they give such high sentience and intelligence to the animals, how the chemical reactions of combining one thing with another created the supers and the monsters (or at least how their evolution was possible), because without those memories making it possible for Ember and Wade to be sentient and given a humanoid form, they'd just be a fire burning fuel and oxygen and a puddle of water giving life to something else. Something BEFORE Elemental granted some aspects of the elements sentience and form, and those aspects gave rise to what we see in this movie
Maybe it was just the first time elements touched while sharing some kind of extreme emotion that caused such a change. Wade and ember kind of touched before when wade tries to put out ember in the alley way when he thought she was just a natural flame, but that didn’t have a reaction because no significant emotions were shared between the two at the time.
Oh my gosh, the scene where Wade and Ember touch was my favorite part of the movie too! It starts out slow, but it’s played out so beautifully. You can tell on both of their faces how relieved and happy they are to finally come into physical contact. And then when they begin to dance… that is cinema.🥹
I have never seen a version of the Pixar theory that made since. It’s always just been a lot of stretching and connecting two dots that aren’t really there
Because we know it is coming I really want to see what Pixar do with Inside Out 2 that is coming. How they will expand on what the first movie set up, how it links with the others and expanda the Universe and the Theory itself. I also know that Inside Out 2 is deffo gonna make me.cry becuase the first one got me bawling.
I think, that if someone's core memories completely fade away or die, the person doesn't just become super depressed, but they actually die, kind of like the final death in coco, but as a first death. Either they die because they don't have anymore emotional energy, so they're body completely dies.
I mean what is the source of life REALLY?!
Ik guys! Can't wait to find out!
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Do you think you guys will ever do the dreamworks theory?
@@Rusty-2010there’s a dreamwos theory?
God Jesus and the holy spirit are our source of life
I like the idea of Elemental being the very first story in the timeline. Seeing how small the world seems to be when we see the globe, my theory is that when an element dies (air dissipates, water evaporates, earth crumbles, fire fizzles) they return to the world and over billions of years the "corpses" of these characters will form the actual earth as we see it from good dinosaur forward. I'm also a huge fan of ancient advanced technology stories so the idea of there being this massive utopian metropolis way before even dinosaurs is really cool to me.
That’s so depressing, but also poetic in a way. So Elemental is the new first in the timeline, it also shows that dead pieces of matter can become alive through emotions and memories. They all have long since been dead, that could also explain how the moon in the movie looks closer than it does in other movies. Because the moon originally was way closer to the earth than now.
That's exactly what I'm thinking! I also thought perhaps the reason everything is the way it is in Pixar is because of the elements, maybe the reason memories work the way they do is because of these elements some how or even the reason animals are smart. Just something to chew on.
@@stefanovallecillos6956 I like those thoughts. And I also notice that the Elemental world is incredibly clean despite all of the industrious technology. And I like your moon distance detail and how that correlates to Pixar's Earth millions of years ago. And one who heavily loves Elemental, I now like to imagine that the world is the way it is thanks to them.
I have a better explaination: "Elemental" takes places in the spiritual dimension of the Pixar-verse.
That would actually explain why Toys in Toy Story that are made out of wood are alive
I'm not sure how they can do it, but if Disney parks can make a water ride out of that air bubble scene from Elemental, that *could* work.
I would love that so much. I wish that there was a park all about Elemental!
Actually that would be so cool. Have the ride vehicles be orbs, sort of like the sky liner but more circular. Then make it look like you’re in water and look around and see stuff from the movie
@@hotwasabi1085 That is a clever idea. I like it a lot.
I think the hot air balloon scene could make a beautiful ride
something around zorbing can be done to make this work!
Can't we just say how great the concept art looks, I like the more watercolor-like aesthetic the concept art has, kinda wish the movie was made in this style
I like the notion that the supers powers come from them having an excess of one emotion within them that manifests in a outward way. Like Violet Parr. Her name evokes Shrinking Violets and her power is invisibility and force fields which are protective self preserving type powers which happen due to say it with me now FEAR. Violet has too much fear in her as a person. Maybe due to being a teenage girl or maybe it is just part of her DNA as a whole but she is too fearful and that manifested itself in her powers to protect her against them. I don't know how it links to some of the other supers but I deffo feel it is possibly one of the explanations for Supers and their powers. Having a little to much of a certain emotion within the body and the body turning it into something else to almost like externally use that emotion for good.
If that's the case, what emotion did the acid reflux guy have an excess of?
How is Mr incredible earth (disgusted emotion?)
The only flaw I see in the incredibles idea, is that frozone is too cool to be depressed
@@HybridHamster what's the opposite of ice.
I really like your theory. I have no idea how to make it work for the other characters though.
Crazy thing is I kinda want Elemental to get a sequel or more content (which I doubt it) because there is a lot of potential and interesting ideas for the story to continue forward.
Edit:I even had an idea for the sequel where both Ember and Wade decide to go back to visit their parents in Element City, but time has changed, and they haven't seen them for so long that they feel a bit disconnected from them and the similar situation can be said for their parent, while they would be a lot more friendly and maybe even visit each other they also a bit distance as well especially with the times changing and society giving them new influences. I even had this idea for the villains of the story first starting off as a typical one-off random couple but as the story goes on Ember and Wade realize how toxic they are to themselves, their own relatives, and others. Once they know their backstory they realize the couple is actually Clod’s parents and they are trying to find Clod, who was taken far away as a baby by a relative or someone in order to escape the abusive relationship. Realizing this, Wade and Ember decided to make sure they never met Clod again.
We got to hope it at leasts makes it money back for pixar to talk about out
They could make a stand alone sequel with new characters
@unrealkibbles8996 that could work but I would like to see wade and ember travel the world
Onward also needs a sequel. There's a lot you can do with both worlds, just like Inside Out, which is why we're finally getting a sequel to that.
@@coolnerdlll6053 true true!
I see no reason why it can’t be both the origin story and something that is happening all the time. I kind of like the idea that we‘ll never know for sure
I am confused, your sentence sounds a lot more like Soul than Elemental.
I think it's both too simply because of how energy is "created and destroyed" a constant ending and a constant beginning
@@lesleypena1305 Funny you should say that. I hear that one of the main rules of physics is that matter cannot be created nor destoryed. But from what I have recently learned, that is not 100% the case. In a quantum scale that is.
I like to believe that Ember and Wade truly are the first inter-elemental couple, since we don't see any mixed elementals in the entire movie and because of Ember's line "Elements don't mix" suggesting that there haven't been any inter-elemental relationships before. After seeing Ember and Wade able to have a successful relationship, more elementals began mixing and matching, followed their example, eventually creating all the living things of our universe. Remnants of elemental ancestry still remain in the form of super-powered humans of "The Incredibles" who have an excess of one or more elements.
Can't wait to continue to watch J slowly descend into madness whilst working on the Pixar Theory. Lol
The pixar theory for SCB will become the equivalent of the FNAF timeline for MatPat
Here for it ❤️
A few thoughts that I have:
1. I actually thought that Elemental looked similar to Inside Out before watching it, and I even watched Inside Out the night before watching Elemental. So I'm glad that you eventually saw a connection between the two movies too! 😊
2. I've heard that when you're angry it's often because of a subconscious fear. So it makes sense that Ember gets red AND purple, considering that she has these mixed emotions.
3. I love the orbs/memories that you pointed out. I absolutely love the scene where they touch for the first time, and having it be a memory makes it so much more special. However, I'm confused about how this would be the pivotal moment of the Pixar Theory. What would this moment cause to happen? Would that lead to the story of the dinosaurs? Or would souls be created? I need more explanation as to how this would be the origin story.
4. This is a love story within the world of elements. Most love stories would be about two trees or two airs. But this is a fire and a water falling in love. I'd like to think of it as an intercultural relationship. They don't happen that often, but it hasn't happened just once. So to answer your question, I think that Wade and Ember's love story isn't the only one where two different elements come together. We even see the air and earth elements who start to get interested in each other at the end of the story. Maybe Wade and Ember were the first to have this chemistry change, maybe not. All that matters to me is that we got to see their personal experience, because every love story is going to be different from the next! 💞💞💞💞
I think the orb moment matters because Ambers glass-orbs looks exactly like the memory orbs of Inside Out. So maybe elementals provide the bodies of characters with certain things? Like Fire can create the orbs for memories, water creates tears and everything fluid, earth makes everything solid like our cells, air is maybe involved with the senses or breathing.
Haven't seen the movie, and just discovered this channel, but is the idea that the elements have existed since the beginning (prior to animals and people), and since chemical reactions are generally the cause of all life on earth (and various other processes), this first "reaction" is what will eventually lead to things like dinosaurs, other animals, and people. Without this reaction, everything would still be in the elemental stages. Though even if this isn't the first time a "reaction" has happened (though in the movie, the general rule is "elements don't mix"), it's still part of this beginning stage of reactions that will eventually lead to other forms of life on earth, so it's important regardless - and since other elements were witness to it, it causes other elements to start reacting too, and that gets the ball rolling (and it's obviously a metaphor for mixed-race relationships).
I also like the idea that others have mentioned - that this could be taking place both before AND after other stages of life on earth - it can be a cycle, or it can be the idea that time is just a perception, so everything kinda happens simultaneously and at all times.
We need a video explaining how Raya, Encanto, Strange World, and eventually Wish will fit into the Disneyverse theory. It hasn’t been updated in three years.
Raya is somewhere in Moana’s world druns act like the darkness spread by the loss of heart. Moana takes place on the opposite side of earth from frozen 2. Strange world is another planet. Encanto is in Columbia
@@ked49 cool but I kinda want a timeline for it like Pixar has (i know Moana is like ancient and Frozen is the 1840s and Encanto is c. 1900-1950 but still)
@@ked49Doesn't the last shot of Strange World place it on Earth in a vague Planet of the Apes reference?
@@ked49the island is probably a god from moana
Those ones don't have videos fitting them into the Pixar theory because they are just Disney movies, not Pixar
this is interesting to learn, when I saw Elemental I felt like it was the very end past the Monsters Inc series like we've seen monsters have some kind of form of either controlling elements or adapting to elements so I was thinking that the monsters now evolved to be 4 pure elements but with how this can be the beginning too can work very well
Is it time to theorize that the Pixar universe is an endless cycle? Elemental COULD be both!
@@halyoalex8942 Love that!!!!!!
It could also be a post apocalyptic type situation where the monsters have collaaped it all and reduced the earth to only the basic elements which then lead to other life again.
Honestly, I had this same theory, but with the supers from the Incredibles. Like the supers evolved with their powers and the Earth evolved with them. They slowly merged with their powers over time. This might also explain why they have fences and and other human structures and why Wade said "Why do they even have these"?
When I was watching this for my first time, I was sad when Wade evaporated until my sister said “ Don’t worry, he will come back, I learned that from the water cycle. I would of laughed if I wasn’t in the theater.
Omg this is exactly what I thought lol
Elemental also connects really well to Turning Red. Ember and Mei have very similar back stories and Mei is also highly affected by emotion.
I wouldn't make that comparison. At least I could tolerate Ember's voice. Seriously, even the coffee machine guy didn't think Rosalie Chiang's voice was super grating?
Similarities do not mean connections though
I think thats just Pixars standard character now. Tons of their movies have a child who doesn't want to be like their family. Turning Red, Coco, Brave, Planes, Ratatouille, etc.
@@tomdaturtle5792 Planes wasn't made by Pixar.
@@tomdaturtle5792 most don’t have the dynamic of immigrant families like Turning Red and Elemental do. Ember and Mei are both children of immigrant parents expected to both maintain the culture their family came from while adapting to the culture they actually live in.
Yeah a lot of Pixar films have a parent-child dynamic (including Inside Out) but the immigrant culture dynamic adds another layer to that plot line that we hadn’t seen from other Pixar films.
I think Ember and Wade touch is the FIRST time the element starts reacting with each other. As we know earlier in the movie the rules is "elements dont mix" but Ember and Wade show them that elements CAN mix/create chemical reaction. After that, at the end of the movie and continuing forward, the mix of elements and the reaction can happen all the time all around the world
But it makes me think does energy in the pixar universe can be created or destroyed?
I find it very odd how they have human technology that is pointless to them. They don’t need chain link fences for example( Ember & Wade just walk through them and Wade literally questions why they use them).
That's bad world building
@@fourstrings4164or it’s lore
@@girlpower_gacha If it isn't explained, it isn't lore. It's bad world building
@@fourstrings4164or hear me out…. It was a joke 💀
@@W3LSHDR4G0 Is a joke worth degrading the world building? Also, making fun of parts of your world that don't make sense doesn't make it a good joke. That would be like if they made a joke about how the trains make water fall over the fire area. "It was a joke" doesn't matter
I've always liked the idea of Elemental, and will check the movie out at some point. Not surprised to hear that the movie has gotten hate, I'm kinda resigning myself to the fact that so many people have a "hate everything" attitude when it comes to movies nowadays.
How was it
@@mr.slimeyt9.6/10
The movie kinda sucks TBH
A lot of people have an "old good, new bad" mentality nowadays and I think that's a bad mentality to have. No one likes to try anything new now. They just automatically assume a new show, movie, or game is gonna be bad
@@Acromion11Not really
I think that Ember and Wade touching was the origin because only then the Elements start loving each other and mixing. But it's also possible that Embers and Wades are happening all the time but unlikely because we see that Fire and Water hate each other throughout the movie and that there's very few instances of Water people meeting Fire people, but it could have still happened, only in secret. But Wade and Ember made such a deal out of their relationship and every Fire person eventually knew of their relationship and eventually all of the city, and only then did the elements realise that they could mix.
But either way Ember and Wade touching was the origin of everything.
Honestly, I don’t get why a lot of people don’t like this when they haven’t even seen it 🙄 but this is one of my favourite Pixar movie I love it so much
It doesn’t appeal to me, because the character designs look wrong to me (not saying they’re bad. Just that to _me personally_ they don’t work.), and the advertising made it look like a movie I wouldn’t enjoy.
SAME!! I was going into the theater thinking that I might not like it, but I absolutely loved it!!
It isnt bad but people are just a bit too tired about the whole outsider and rebel protagonist who tries to overcome generational trauma at this point. The marketing was bad for this one.
So, in all seriousness, almost every culture of antiquity, references water, earth, fire, air, as the key building blocks, not just of life, but of Spirituality... which, if you ask me, plays into the Pixar Theory perfectly. Awesome video!!!
Another phenomenal deep dive into this, is another franchise near and dear to your hearts... Avatar the Last Airbender. When Uncle Iroh explains the 4 elements to Zuko, and also when the Guru explains the Chakras to Aang.
Someone please clear this up for me: are the wood that fire people eat throughout the movie to regenerate dead trees? Are they emotionless? (Regular everyday trees?) is this some sort of screwed up thing we didn’t notice??? Also why don’t fire people light any cloth on fire
Yes they're just regular trees I would say. And if you're talking about clothes, their clothes are made with fireproof materials so it wouldn't burn.
Anybody else automatically start playing the "The Pixar Theory" song in their head any time they hear the words "Pixar Theory"? Or is it just me?
I do it whenever i see a Pixar movie
Yes
Also like the orb of the room they get trapped in at the end since it’s rounded n stuff
It was a well rounded scene
I think the water people always crying is just wade and his family. When they are at the sport event and wade becomes emotional the other water elementals look at him as though he is strange. And we don't see water elements outside the wade family always crying. It could just be that we see way more of their family though
So if Wade and Ember were to have kids, would they be steam? For instance, water and earth would be mud, earth and fire would be lava, fire and air would be heat (or lightning), air and water would be...ice I think, water and fire make steam, and earth and air would make...sand I think
And for those who wanted a sequel/were wondering what a sequel could be this, you have the answer. Your idea of mixing the other elements could make for a great series. What happens when the other elements start mixing and you have a younger generation that is a mix of both of their parents and now something different? How do they navigate the world? Quick question: how would steam be different from air?
my personal theory that i came up with after just seeing the movie was that it was like that one online game Little Alchemy where bit by bit the elements would mix and create whole new things, so like Ember and Wade would ultimately result in a steam creature
So, you're saying the movie is a metaphor for how the universe and elements create everything? That's actually really cool and creative! Good job guys!
Man, I loved this movie so much. I’m going through a similar situation to Ember and I actually cried after she bowed to her dad. “Sometimes, when I lose my temper, I think it’s just me trying to tell me something I’m not ready to hear.” “That’s ridiculous.” 😂
how do elementals have literal advanced human culture before the flaming good dinosaur SOMEBODY PLEASE READ MY COMMENTS PLEASE
That’s what I’m saying.
Nothing makes me more happy then when Super Carlin Brothers posts a new video❤
A bit off-topic, but I feel like Elemental succeeding or not will be a lose-lose situation to unless by some miracle it at least breaks even at the box office last minute or does well in its merchandise. If it continues to flop then Disney will double down and use it as an excuse to continue its bad habits and the other way is to be successful when it goes on a steaming service which can have a domino effect for future Pixar films.
If the just looked at what the fans are saying nit just the box office they see we want new stuff even some extra elemental content
@@vrgamer6644 It doesn't really matter how much fans are saying they want original stories if it doesn't translate into box office performance. It's a business. The only way to get to more original movies is that people see them in theaters.
They are bouncing back now, great!
I couldn't think of how Elemental would connect to the Pixar Theory until I saw this video. Amazing job.
I can't wait to see how the next Pixar movie, Elio, connects to the Pixar Theory as well. If you ask me, I think it connects well already with the whole concept of the "united advance pieces of the UNIVERSE."
I think its a love story that takes place all over, after all none of the other characters seem put out or super surprised about it, heck even Gale said "you two are a cute couple" and that was before they even admitted it to themselves. The only ones who seemed put off by the coupling was her and her father for the most part. And her father was representing the old ways and old beliefs and she was following her Dad's beliefs which is what the whole movie is about. So I think its just one instance we are following while the story though its happening everywhere, heck even the earth child in the very beginning of the movie is making moves outside his element. So it's probably a generation thing.
I very much agree with you! Even the part that shows the Grandmother on her deathbed has one last dying wish, for Ember to marry fire. If relationships between the elements was not a thing, why would the Grandmother ever say that? It would make no sense. I think this is just a generational thing and not something that is really new to the community.
I think maybe perhaps Fire specifically can’t be with Water. I’m sure Water with Earth or Air with Water work just fine. So inter-elemental couples weren’t unheard of, but Water and Fire might have been. And some people (Gale) are more open to the idea of it being possible.
I love how these guys can figure out how to fit Pixar movies in the Pixar universe.
I'd like to see them do some stuff about Guardians of the Galaxy, Across the Spider-verse, and Secret Invasion.
Definitely agree that Elemental is the origin point of life in the Pixar universe. To have life expressed in such abstract forms makes total sense as a starting point, with life getting progressively more complex in subsequent films, and these elements are things that pre-date life itself in reality, not to mention the elements serving as foundational sources of life in many mythologies. The concept of the elements as origin points for life is truly primordial.
Want another example? If you want to lean upon Pokemon's mythology with respect to the legendary Pokemon, Generation III's trio included Groudon (Fire/Earth), Kyogre (Water) and Rayquazza (Air) being responsible for the physical creation of the Earth, its continents, oceans and the sky, and each of these legendaries being the lords of their respective domains. Until we get a Pixar movie dealing with cosmic energy and celestials, Elemental appears to be first in the timeline (though one could argue that the Jerrys in Soul are celestials, though that movie takes place in a period of time in which humanity exists, and Elemental pre-dates humanity).
I Absolutely Loved This Film, The Story Was Actually Refreshing, Characters Understandable, And Animation Solid.
The whole realm of Elemental is inside in Mitochondria.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
I hope we get a review of the movie too! Can't wait to hear what you both thought of the movie as a whole
Elemental fits into the Pixar Theory because it's giving something feelings.
It's interesting that you point out the parallels between Inside Out and Elemental. I feel like we don't get enough evidence to decide that this is just the start of everything, instead I think it's exactly like the Inside Out situation, and these characters are inside somebodies head. It makes sense that different people would have their minds arranged differently. It also explains why human things, like the chain link fence, exists.
I loved Elemental! It was a beautiful film.
Remember cloud town from Inside Out?
I like how the video turns Wade into some sort of deep quote generator
As much as I love the Harry Potter content, I am glad to see other types of videos made.
As an aside, I've personally never felt so connected to a movie. After going through a rough patch in a very close friendship with a girl (which i thought was love), this movie became a very cathartic experience. I saw it 11 times, at first because i thought it was an excellent movie - which it is. But i realised that it was because Ember and Wade had what I wished for. It gave me a fresh perspective on life, to not wallow in despair at a daunting, lonely future ahead, but to take chances and truly take every opportunity i could. As they say; Tishok; you dont have forever, so go do it. I try live that up every day
Thanks for reading, lovelies. And thank you, Pixar and Elemental 🌹
Pixar: What if (Insert anything here) has feelings.
My favorite was “what if old people had emotions”
I once saw somebody make a joke that Soul was "What if black people had feelings?" I can only assume that person is very lonely.
If fire and water had touched before, I'm sure someone would have recorded that moment. Just seeing these two on screen, surpassing their differences, changing their chemistry, with the love they have for one another, proving everyone wrong. Man I love this movie. Beautiful.
Pixar Employees: "ha, they won't be able to fit THIS one in!"
Narrator: They did
He fit two thing that don't work together
It Don't make sense
So you're telling me... every time they touch they get this feeling? Perhaps then, when they touch might feel they could fly ?
My only question is, where is element city located? The elements are microscopic so I guess it could be anywhere but I’m still curious.
Spoilers:
There is a scene where Wade and Ember are in the boss' office. And a globe is visible that Ember shoves in Wade's mouth to shush him. Where there is a little red island (for the fire elements) visible. So that indicates that Elemental takes place on another planet. And the star when Wade and Ember are on the beach is much more vast in visual than the sun back on Earth. EDIT: A moon is seen, just VERY huge...
Long story short, it is another planet, like Onward. And I do not think they are microscopic beings at all.
are we going to get a full movie review for this movie?? i really want to know both of your thoughts on it
This does seem to make sense, everything is composed from elements (in religion its says humans are made from the earth) and elements from Elemental being linked to the emotions from Inside Out also explains why there are expressions like "burning rage" so i could see this at the VERY start. Basically the elements soon became the building blocks of all life leading to Good Dinosaur and it continues as stated in PixarTheory
I need yours and bens movie notes after watching. I couldn’t find A113 anywhere and I was really looking
I'd say yes, the elemental world is an origin point. Maybe the beginning of the the actual emotions in a person's brain.
Except... butterflies are mentioned. This isn't before animals were a thing. It can't be before EVERYTHING. Maybe it takes place in a brain or something... Osmosis Jones style? But more... vague? Gah, I don't know. But this is definitely onto something.
When i saw the movie i just kept thinking on how it would fit into the pixar theory but this realy clears things up
I never looked into this movie much, but when I saw trailers and posters I I initially thought this was Inside Out 2. They look SO similar.
I want you to explain how Wade ignited the incense?
So like, this is supposed to be before any other life existed? Like once enough elements came together and changed, they somehow, over enough time, changed into the emotions which means that the emotions existed even before any other life did, and then, all the energy generated from these memories somehow went into dirt and created life for the first ever time!?
Nice, when’s the Across the Spiderverse vid coming out tho?👀
Again, I want to voice my opinion that Emotion is the base for everything in the Pixar universe. Since Memories are comprised of emotions. (You even say here that love creates energy, emotions and everything. Which is an emotion.)
3:24 to the great beyond
Emotions, Souls, Elements... what do you believe could be the next metaphysical idea a movie is about?
So, do we have any idea WHEN Elemental takes place?
Either the birth or death of the universe
Or the void between Cars and monster inc
Probably in the future.
Elemental is a direct sequel/prequel to inside out. Only this time instead of us being in Riley were inside the world.
Why did ember not extinguish from loss of oxygen during the finale sene where (Spoiler Alert) ||wade evaporates|| , why did ember not disappear from lack of oxygen? I love goofy Pixar science lol
5:30 A truly epic one! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I aww this movie with my girlfriend and kept thinking “what would I do in this situation” and then wade does that exact thing. After we got out my girlfriend said “you’re 1000% wade” and I just went yeah Pixar didn’t need to call me out like that
What about the Easter egg were wade is on a water bottle could that mean element city is like a cartoon?
Big shout out to the art in this video. If that was fan drawn, holy cow that is really good.
Has no one connected J's red hoodie plus his (Classic-J) hair channeling Fire Energy?
I am just out of words, this is incredible if its the Pixar theory and someone at Pixar came up with this but the fact that you theorized this and have so much tenacity while bringing this out there theory together.....wow. I got chills!
i feel like the pixar team keeps trying to disprove this theory with every movie, and you guys keep finding ways to fit the new movies in
Their hands clapping together, looks a lot like the old SCB logo (16:01). So SCB created the Pixar verse I guess. It makes so much sense.
"It's NO COINCIDENCE" he says, about _literal_ coincidences.
I'm still confused how Elemental fits the Pixar Theory, but I can definitely see fire 🔥 in the top half and water 💦 in the bottom half of the "orb" that you point out appears when they touch for the first time. Nice catch.
Elemental is how the universe was created. Cuz in real life elements formed new elements that created the whole universe. So this is like the beginning of the universe, or the Pixar Universe
then why do they have pointless artifacts of the real word like chain-link fences?@@mr.slimeyt
I had no idea this movie existed until I saw the thumbnail, but as someone living in The Netherlands, Elemental doesnt come out here for a few more weeks. So if I wanna watch it, I would need to go to a different country and spend way too much on travel expenses. Or wait and probably forget this video was posted. Since I enjoy SCB pixar theory too much, I guess I'm getting spoiled.😅
So an element cant really react to anything else if it doesnt have an open electron to use to bond right...? I like the idea that yeah maybe fire and water may have touched before but wade and ember were finally open to change xD so THATS why they reacted the way they did when they touched
If the emotions you have are actual people living inside you (inside out) does that mean these element, cars, bugs, toys… also have them inside too?
Why didn’t Wade die? That’s my biggest problem with the movie, if he would’ve stayed dead then that would’ve _actually_ given the movie a message, “Your actions have consequences.” But I feel like Wade coming back is just the Disney execs. saying, “Hey, no. Bad good writers. We need to keep things open for a sequel.”
I'm glad you finally did this. I've been waiting forever for you to do the Pixar theory again. I love the Pixar theory!
I think it can be both what you posit in this video and a world that exists on top of our own where superpowers come from.
Wade should be a guidance counselor! 🌊
Maybe that's going to be his second career. People do change careers and he seems young enough to make that kind of transition.
Honestly, this works. I was wondering if maybe the storm that destroyed Bernie’s home and caused them to move to Element City could somehow play a role in how it connects.
Okay but whyyyy don't I see more videos on Elemental on your channel? There are so many small, awsome details in the movie that for sure are worth a theory 🤩
I really want to see this movie I don't care for spoilers I hope it's on Disney plus
Will you do a review of this movie I like watching your reviews to see what other people thought about the movie and maybe you could point out some Easter eggs that I missed
So when Ember and Wayde touch, they create energy that created the world?
I literally just finished the movie, and omg the fireplace scene made me cry
The explanation of how Elemental explains the energy we get from memories and how the elemnts fit into emotion is really good, but stepping back into that chemical level again...the elements literally make uo everything else too. Elements (whether the base for elemental elements like fire and water, or the periodic table) are literally the building blocks of life as we know it, and we can clearly see there's non-living elements in Elemental (the water the Vivisteria tree is under, the tree itself, the air they breathe, the fires they cook with, the ground they walk on, the buildings they create, etc). This movie explains so much more in the Pixar Theory than just the memories and emotions, it explains how those memories and emotions give life to the toys and the cars, how they give such high sentience and intelligence to the animals, how the chemical reactions of combining one thing with another created the supers and the monsters (or at least how their evolution was possible), because without those memories making it possible for Ember and Wade to be sentient and given a humanoid form, they'd just be a fire burning fuel and oxygen and a puddle of water giving life to something else. Something BEFORE Elemental granted some aspects of the elements sentience and form, and those aspects gave rise to what we see in this movie
I haven’t seen this yet, but I’ve taken the tour on Messenger.
I will always respect you guys for paying your bills on such innocent niche subjects matter 😊😊
Maybe it was just the first time elements touched while sharing some kind of extreme emotion that caused such a change. Wade and ember kind of touched before when wade tries to put out ember in the alley way when he thought she was just a natural flame, but that didn’t have a reaction because no significant emotions were shared between the two at the time.
So when are where does it take place
Oh my gosh, the scene where Wade and Ember touch was my favorite part of the movie too! It starts out slow, but it’s played out so beautifully. You can tell on both of their faces how relieved and happy they are to finally come into physical contact. And then when they begin to dance… that is cinema.🥹
I have never seen a version of the Pixar theory that made since. It’s always just been a lot of stretching and connecting two dots that aren’t really there
I have so many questions about the world of elemental and their history of the elemental waves coming to elemental city.
The A-113 in elemental outdoes itself. It's so nerdy, and I love it so much!😊😍
Because we know it is coming I really want to see what Pixar do with Inside Out 2 that is coming. How they will expand on what the first movie set up, how it links with the others and expanda the Universe and the Theory itself. I also know that Inside Out 2 is deffo gonna make me.cry becuase the first one got me bawling.
I think, that if someone's core memories completely fade away or die, the person doesn't just become super depressed, but they actually die, kind of like the final death in coco, but as a first death. Either they die because they don't have anymore emotional energy, so they're body completely dies.
You saws the little mermaid live action