tHE MoST DEPRESSING CaR TReND...rip shift levers.
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- tHE MoST DEPRESSING CaR TReND...rip shift levers. #savethemanuals
The most aggressive car mods? more like the most depressive car mods! Who needs intimidating Mods when you can intimidate yourself! Remember when Toyota Supra's, Corvettes, Ford Mustangs, Nissan Skyline's, and Mazda Rx-7's all had Shift Levers? Hell, even a Chrysler Minivan had a shift lever? Now C8 Corvettes use this stupid Shifter Button setup and many more cars use the Dial Knob crap. I'm not trying to adjust my radio, I'm trying to shift gears for Heaven's sake! 
Авто/Мото
“I like this song!”
*Turns dial up*
*Loud crunching sounds from car*
“Ahh shi-“
Some of these cars literally have it next to the volume dial.
@@brb1994 yeah I saw it ona truck (I forgot which model) and I was like, "THATs SO EVIL!!!"
Funny, but realistically wouldn't happen because modern automatic boxes won't let you shift unless your foot's on the brake; even if you're set in P with the parking brake engaged.
@@BladedAngelit’s on the ram v8 models
@@BladedAngelI know you think this is bad, But look at the one on the genisis GV60
If you really wanted more space, what was wrong with column shift?
RIGHT????? IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS IN THE WAY OF ANYTHING!!! and inb4 someone says, "I might bump my arm into it" THAT'S THE POINT!! I want to be able to find it with my hand easily. I love being able to feel the lever engage, feels more robust instead of "spinn go burr"
The column shift does not provide a place to hang a trash bag. Why do you think shifters have moved to the right side of the car?
@@BladedAngel This is one of the reasons I like the '96 Ford Explorer that I drive. I like the column shifter compared to whatever this nob is. I know it's an automatic, but still.
it cost more to manufacture, because of the complex shift linkage.
It doesn't get more American than havin' a good ol' column shifter.
"Yo my song on"
**Turn dial**
**Sees heaven**
“YO THIS MY JAM”
(passenger A turns dial all the way to the right)
“shhhhhh I’m on a call”
(passenger B turns dial all the way to the left)
“HEY HONK THE HORN”
(passenger C slams on the dial multiple times)
The Honkai Impact 3rd bridge theme in da background adds a nice touch fr
I work at a kia dealership, we have these dumb ass dials on hybrids...right in front of cup holders..had a customer spill shit on one and caused CAN issues..replaced it, and he spilled shit on it again..job security
haha lmaooo
@BladedAngel first one was "warranty" , second one was ~500 I bet he won't do it again
Well come on man you cant blame the stupidity of a client on a vehicle, it dont matter the kind of vehicle it is if it’s got buttons and a center console spilling anything WILL cause damage shifter or not
@Quinho1525A I don't 100% blame either party...BUT if yur going to put a literal can network joint connector in a device that's near a cup holder at least make the box waterproof...that said stop being clumsy and spilling shit
Thankfully, the Kia we have uses a shift lever
and this is why cars from 2000's and before are the best, they have all the stuff to tickle our monke brains right
They're simple. Just clicky buttons, no screens, and they actually let you have fun.
@@salsa_50Truth right there!
@@salsa_50 Plus you get an actual key you can put in the ignition
That's all I drive now
@@clonecommandermike332not me glazing my turn key ignition in my 2014 mustang whenever my buddies bitch about their key fob dying
HI3 menu soundtrack slaps 🙏
I’m just tired of car companies “fixing” things that are clearly not broken. Not once have I heard anyone complain about having to use a lever to change gears.
If the dial is cheaper to manufacture than the lever is, then guess what?
Same reason we see so many 100% digital gauge clusters. They market it as a premium feature but it's really just that screens have become such a commodity item it's cheaper and takes up less space to use a screen for a gauge cluster than to include any mechanical or at least electromechanical gauges.
Soulless is the perfect way to describe the direction car trends are moving. Let’s get some car enthusiasts back in the design room and on the board of directors.
They did. The engineers built another Miata.
@@christopherlowery855 I’m still amazed that car is in production and hasn’t been scrapped yet. Looks like Toyota is trying too.
I feel like Toyota is still doing fun things but everyone is slipping.
@@magnuslund2545 It's a driver's car. Minimalistic, I-4, lightweight, nimble suspension, Right Wheel Drive, 3-pedal operated, 50/50 weight distribution.
The essence of a sports car.
Drop in a V8 or boost it to 300whp and it will dominate most cars on the street.
@@s70driver2005 The GR86 is a try effort, but the engine has major oil starvation issues when tracking it. The GR Corolla is a good hot hatch option. Not sure about the TRD Camry.
I had to do a three point turn in a newer expedition and it was so janky thanks to the stupid shift dial. Driving that made me realize how much I take my column shifter for granted
I remember Drew Gooden said his car kept rejecting his input and when I recently borrowed a coworkers car, I had the same issue. SOmetimes when rapidly going from D to R, even at idle, the car i slike, "nope, too fast, input rejected" even though I AM TRYING TO AVOID AN IMMINENT COLLISION.
Old expeditions with column shift >>>> newer expeditions with dial
@@eeb2060a majority of cars>>>>>>any expedition
Just remember the order, it's the same as any other car. P R N D. There's also a very obvious click when you get into each gear. You gotta be real dumb to get confused by a dial...
@@DodgerFloofNo said they couldn't use it. The biggest problem is with the car not knowing what to do, not the driver. A stick or column shifter is just much more straightforward and the car isn't actively fighting you
This is why I will never own any new vehicle. With all the screens and things they are adding to cars. Plus more normal features are being moved to said screens as well. I understand wanting to make things better, but putting everything behind a screen is going to lead to more eyes off the road just to adjust things like the AC
Putting things into the screen means handing over control to software. Making it easier for vendors to wall it behind subscription fee.
@@rompis.aAgreed. It's all by design. Modern cars are just permissioned rolling prisons. It's the reason for stupid things like door actuators with no manual override. All new cars are cancer IMO
Afaik they are making a law (?) telling manufacturers to return some physical controls to the car, I hope Blade can talk about this.
As for touchscreens I hate it when a commonly accessed function is like three menus deep or so, that is just bad user interface design.
Bro slipped the HoV in there 😂😭
This is actually dangerous imo. Imagine turning up the volume only to realize you've shifted into reverse.
Good one but i dont think any car allows that
@@prateekmishra6735 maybe while in a red light you might do it?
thankfully while you're moving, they will lock you out of shifting, so the knob will just spin, but reject your input.
@@BladedAngeljust like my crush rejected me
@@BladedAngel What if you're at a red light though? Your foot is on the brake pedal
Bro imagine a fuze goes out and now you cant shift your car and you take it to the mechanic and its quoted at 3400
If they can fix it at all💀💀💀
replacing a fuse is easy though. now if the wiring underneath the center console broke...that's a whole other ball game💀💀
@@BladedAngel it's easy unless you drive a new German car
@BladedAngel Linkage can also break as we found out with an old Trailblazer.
Fortunately, the linkage broke in the parking lot of the shop where we were dropping my car for its inspection.
Had to figure out a way to get me AND my dad home then, since he was supposed to be my ride.
@@AHungryHunkyshift linkage can break whether it’s a dial or not
I'll take that any day over the buttons shifter 😭
Fr, button shifters are awful. But, to go in line with what you said, I'd rather have button shifter than screen shifters like the Teslas do lmao
@@chase6902 Agreed. But if you do end up owning a Tesla for whatever reason you can always install the aftermarket programmable buttons.
@@SavvaGor1207 yeah. Although if I do go for an EV, I don't think a Tesla will be my top choice lol
@@SavvaGor1207 wait what are you disagreeing on
@@SavvaGor1207Dude literally said Tesla sucks and then you "disagree" with him by saying Tesla sucks... xD
"All I see is a soulless VOID"
I see what you did there blade 😂
Honkai impact reference?
@@mingdechong5763 yes it is, it's the Herrscher of Void
poo poo game
car manufacturers: remember more espresso less depresso
car enthusiasts: i’m still depressed but now i’m fast
Bait and switch. I'm fast, but not depressed. A modded 90s JDM legend is 100% better than anything produced today.
Just an opinion.
@@christopherlowery855 exactly jdm cars from the 80s-2004 were peak
But no new Cappucino
This and Ebrake lever 😢
"Ebrake" lol
I still have the emergency kind :D
I think the early 2010s is the peak of analog and digital combinations. I drive a 2013 car, still has the gear selector stick, but it also has the leather (esque) cutout around the shifter
Can't disagree
true, i want a 2015s superb or corolla. still has shift and the manual option, but also has alot of feature and screen
@srptr_w haven't heard about the Superb in a while lol, but then again, they don't sell Skoda here in the states
I totally agree. The leather around the lever is called a "shift boot"
@@DC9Douglas i love them lol
Honestly, I like the c8’s “yank switches” way more than any old PRNDL. Coming from a manual e46
I work for a rental company and I agree with you.
When I see these shifter wheels and buttons, I feel like the car is missing something that makes it feel like it's a car.
I guess the car companys are trying to make cars be computers with this design.
PRNDL stick is the GOAT, THE GOATTTTTTTT I TELL YOU
6-speed is the real goat tho
5 or 7-speed is aight.
@@BladedAngel 5 and 7 speed is good for normal use. My Myvi has a CVT and it runs well so far.
But would you prefer it over a knob?
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S WHY HE IS THE MVP
I just switched from a manual to a 7 speed automatic and i dont even miss it. Everyday driving is just so much more chill.
If i want sporty, i have Peddleshifters.
Why don't we just relax and turn on the radio, would you like AM or FMMMMMMMMM?!?!?!?!?!
“Man I love this song let me just turn up the volume real qui-“ throws the cars in park
If you're that stupid, you're kinda asking for it...
As a former owner of a grand caravan… THAT SHIFTER WAS AMAZING. I’d rather have that than any shifter down by the side of the chair.
I'll play devil's advocate: Your average non enthusiast doesn't really care. They might even prefer it. So manufacturers might be incentivized to keep doing it. I know my grandpa likes his dial-a-gear Durango, and so might others. We as car enthusiasts might not have our preferences prioritized or even considered by manufacturers for the most part outside of dedicated enthusiast vehicles.
All the cars that these are on aren't even car "enthusiast" cars, so why should they care about your input? lol
@@DodgerFloofyou missed the whole point lol
Saw someone use a column shifter the other day, brought back some great memories, I miss those lol
i used to work at car wash, otherday some genesis showedup , took me 5 min to figureout the shift dial.
i drive stick shift for last 10 years this shit was like 3000 years future tech for me
Sad?! It makes me terrified. One argument with a psychotic chick and there goes your transmission or your life.
Most of them luckily have some protection for that, they wont actually put you in reverse when you're not at a near standstill
Another BIG problem with the lack of a physical shift knob from my experience is that there is no emergency override when the battery dies. When my uncle’s 2018 Honda Odyssey’s battery died one night, we couldn’t get it into neutral because it lacked an override switch that’s normally next to the shifter on a traditional automatic. Even when the tow truck came, it had issues getting it out of the parking space because it was FWD and the transmission was stuck in park! It had to be dragged out which probably didn’t do wonders for the transmission. We also had a small jump pack, but it wasn’t enough to get it started unfortunately.
We can't even trust Honda anymore... Or Toyota. RIP OG Tundra.
Ford still has the neutral override.
What reputable tow truck driver doesn’t have a battery charger that they could put on it for 2 seconds to get it into neutral? Honda did do bad here but pretty much every other brand with a dial still has an override.
Tow Truck driver needs to learn some things about his job. *Most* cars have a neutral override and I can tell you where most of them are
As for the new button shifter Odyssey, that one I admit I don't know. Haven't had to pop one yet
@@towcat I don’t remember all the details honestly. The Odyssey has buttons instead of a lever or rotating knob and there are no visible overrides except for on the transmission itself and you need a special tool to do it. Otherwise, it can’t go into neutral without starting the engine. As for why the tow truck couldn’t jump the car, it was parked inwards in a very packed parking lot. It was also a very cold Winter night that day though, so that could have had an effect on the battery too.
A big factor that influenced me on what car I purchased when finally getting a new vehicle was the presence of a shift knob compared to the dial.
Yes, I went with the stick.
The Honkai Impact music bumping in the background:
bladedangel wants to touch and grab big and long knobs.
A lot of chicks are about the big long knobs. J/S
We no longer mechanically shift gears so car companies are like "buttons and dials work"
I can only image the nightmare of fixing that electronic switch when it breaks within 5 years after purchase like they want it to.
The owner will have sold the car off by then. That's the point. Perpetual debt.
Warranties are a scam.
ive seen "shifters" that are just buttons on the dash. like one for park, one for drive, and one for reverse.
Equally as dangerous and still a travesty
Remember anytime a Dodge Ram driver gives you a hard time, or tailgates you with 3 empty lanes, they have a shift knob, usually shuts them up.
Literally turning automobiles into a washing machine ‘ I’d like to know who had this bad idea into reality in pursuit of safety 😂
The new features introduce more things to go wrong.
"Features". lane keep assist is more like an uninvited passenger fighting for control of the wheel, intent on causing a wreck.
Cancer.
@@christopherlowery855 cant you just... not use that feature then? its not like the dial shifter where you have no choice
@@vladimirtiffany In both cases, my answer has been to just not buy cars with these features, among other intolerable needless automobile design changes. The answer to any of these new car trends is to refuse to buy any of it. It's been working with EVs. It can work with petrol cars as well. Wallet voting works.
Cheers.
A simple dial or buttons, compared to a whole fake mechanical lever?
@@dantevito1193 What do you mean "fake mechanical lever"? What do you think is actually happening when you change gears with the lever?
Me:*Tries to switch radio*
*Car proceeds to reverse in the middle of the motorway*
Literally can't happen.
I'm lucky to live in France, where everyone has a wiggly stick in their cars
Another one is the lack of manual parking brakes and makers using a button.
I tried the button in a 2023 ford transit while driving and it applied the brakes as long as I held it so at least it still works as an emergency brake on some vehicles.
The lever behind the wheel to shift the car in the caravans and town and countries were actually really fun to use and felt really smooth
Him talking about that useless transmission plus with the Honkai BGM is tweaking my brain into buying a car with a column mounted shifter. If it still running good
You know what's even worse? Buttons to shift gears.
You know what's even even worse? Capacitive buttons to shift gears.
I want a giant gearshift stick with a 20 kg weight, a heavy 30 kg steering wheel, and a 30 kg brake.
My ultimate highway workout.
Man the honkai impact 3rd gave me nostalgia
fireworks lol
I hate this too. Give me a standard floor shift or column shift. They’re so much better.
"Why won't the car go?"
"You gotta turn the prindle up"
The people designing these belong in the mad house, not in the design house
Mercedes got it right way back in 07 with their electronic implementation of the column shifter. doesn't take up center console space, but it's still intuitive and elegant.
I want my manual shift transfercases back and my manual locking hubs.
Let me stand on that mf when it wont come outta 4L god dammit
That BGM brings back memories..
Bruh even my dad's EV has that shit, I hate it
Once it becomes obsolete maybe it will also become nostalgic 😂
HI3 playing in the background, nice
Gave me nostalgia it's been years since I played it
@@user-jh5wt8lq9x Gotta get back into it bro, the story is crazy
I was not expecting to hear Honkai Impact music in the background
HI3rd music is making this rant feel different, just imagining this as one of the main menu monologues LOL
Ayo the bgm!! ❤❤❤ Honkai impact 3rd
HoV mentioned lesgoo 🤯
“Man this is a good song”
The Transmission:💥
from what i’ve seen working at ford, the turning knob will shift back to park when you open the door. this has even become a thing with their column shifters on their new trucks. i guess that’s useful for people who forget to shift to park and hit something in a parking lot, and that’s all.
I used to hate the shift dial until I drove a truck with one. Most of the problems people talk about aren't actual issues, and I actually quite liked it.
column shifter for life
That damn song on the background...
Honkai impact 3rd main menu theme
"Alright alright, we hear you. The dial thing is gone."
*Puts gear controls in the touchscreen*
If they want to save on space bring back column shifters
DUDE! I am a Town and Country Minivan Fanatic! V6 Box on wheels!
Recently had to help an inexperienced driver out of some sand cause she almost dug her rental Skoda in on the beach. Got Behind the wheel, took the car out. The shifter was not a dial but one of the new VW tiny switch type shifter. Worked well enough but by god did it make me appreciate my 20 y/o manual accord that much more 😅
tbf, the dial shifter is really good for being able to reverse quickly, i think it’s creative. sometimes it’s fun to reinvent the wheel
They’re trying to make it like Mr. Incredible’s car, the Incredibile.
These dial shifters are in consumer cars. He shows a Chrysler Pacifica multiple times, and as an owner of a 2018 Pacifica, their audience does not give a **damn** how they shift.
love the honkai impact 3rd music in the back
Homie got the honkai impact 3rd music in the background 💪🤣
Agreed. I'm going to be holding onto my vehicles that have real shifters and mechanical linkages to the transmission for as long as possible.
Pacifica owner here:
I like my dial. The Chrysler dial feels and looks nice and it has yet to fail me after 100k miles. It had an error once but still turned and changed gears fine.
For most consumers, a dial is all you need. There's no real reason to have anything more than that in a modern automatic.
Now, for those uninformed: the first knob with the center S button is a Ford knob and it sucks. It's loose and feels cheap and wobbles and bleh. Also fingerprint magnet. The one with the silvery texture and the no smoking sign is a Pacifica. Very solid, feels good. That knob was also used in the 200 and the base for it in the Ram 1500, although with a different cap. The Ram's knob feels awful. The last flush knob is a Ford product and is used in Landrovers and Jaguars and it also sucks.
A knob can be okay but it has to be built right.
And, realistically, how much do you touch the shifter in an automatic car? You don't at all, so why do some of these automatics need massive levers?
AGREED 👍🏾💯 BEEN PISSING ME OFF FOR YEARS
Did i just hear honkai impact lobby theme?
Don’t forget about when your car is dead…
I drive my dad's 2004 Chrysler Grand Voyager and it has a four speed auto transmission with a column shifter, it's weird but I love it
I like the Mercedes solution, which is a stalk on the steering column.
It's the best compromise - it's entirely just a cheap switch - which is why manufacturers are doing the dial - and it's easy to locate because it's similar to an old column shifter.
bUt mIniMaliZin
First time I saw this was on a bus 15-18 years ago. It was a freightliner model with a small electronic gear box with buttons on it. All they did was change it to a wheel lol. But, I guess it makes it feel “high tech”
Škoda (european) had the manual lever looking auto for years, but with the latest facelift, they made a lever like a blinker, which we had in our last car. That is somewhat okay but i still love to see a lever sticking out, it gives more a vibe than a button you need to turn
I just noticed, Honkai Impact 3rd Main Music Theme is your background kusic for this video.
What a GOAT
Squidward, curling on floor: "Fuuutuuuuurrrrre!!!"
Seriously, engineers need to knock it off with this dishwasher dial gear selector. Is there even any consistency with makes/models or are they at complete random?
All new Fords have them
Bro did the c8 dirty with that one 💀😂
I’m not going to be in the Majority here but I’ll just say it. I’ve had it my Jaguar XF from 2015( still have the car and trimming perfectly). It’s never given me a problem and still works perfectly. It’s nice to use and is very sleek.
Not to mention the amount of people I know personally who were left stranded by a bad wire connection
I've always driven fairly simple cars with a clutch pedal, manual shift, parking brake lever etc. A few years ago I had to rent a car. After fumbling around trying to find the hand brake, I had to walk back to their office and admit with some embarassment that I couldn't drive off cos I couldn't find how to release the hand brake..lol. It was some button or tiny switch tucked in somewhere!
It feels so cool passing 1 to 2 on an automatic transmission with the lever, now we get a door knob and plastic paddle shifter😢
My guess is that making these round knobs cost less than an actual shifter, similarly to how companies shove a bunch of touchscreen panels instead of dedicated switches and knobs.
Yes and no. Any change costs money. Manuals are historically cheaper to make than autos. Cars would still be dirt cheap if they were still made the same way they were in the 90s. 10 control modules easily offsets the cost of an aluminum intake. All the stupid useless tech made the cars so expensive. A $1 cable is way cheaper than a $40 servo. The point was to cut the mechanical linkage completely. It's been a slow boil.
The dial is great man, I don't get the hate behind it. Infinitely better than the shitty tiny fiddly shifters they put now
Drive a 90s luxury vehicle. You'll get it.
@@christopherlowery855 I do and then again. After nothing?
@christopherlowery855I own an E46 BMW and also drive my dad's new Ford escape with the dial. Both options work and the dial doesn't bother me what so ever. Y'all need to stop blindly hating on crap you never used before.
@@DodgerFloof BMW owners sold out to the electrical module nightmare, the dashboard christmas tree, cockpits that are as complicated as a F-5 fighter jet, engine beauty covers, and more sensors than a Saturn V rocket. Not to mention being an early adopter of plastic engine components, such as water pump housings. Some of us just want mechanical parts that work over the convenience of pressing a button. (Although the E46 is a much better BMW example than many others. Especially in recent years)
The complaint about dial shifters is just the latest complaint about automobile "by wire" overreach. We can include electronic parking brakes, touchscreen A/C controls, electric PWS pumps, electric thermostats, and arguably even drive-by-wire throttle control. I would even include all the driver assist "features" that have come out in recent years.
I don't need cancer to know that I don't want cancer. Your argument is like telling me that life with Lukimia isn't that bad. It is for those without it and don't want it.
Dial shifters are just another piece of provisioned access smarter-than-you technology that replaces a fully functional piece of life-long mechanical technology with cheaply manufactured electrical garbage. Manufacturers can't even manage to build quality electrical window switches. Now we want to replace the part that makes the vehicle go, stop, and reverse with the same worthless garbage? Pass... Hard pass.
Some of us have the ability to look at a vehicle beyond the end of the extended warranty period.
Specifically, dial shifters aren't that bad for new cars. When it breaks is when we have an issue.
Yet another reason why I won't buy a newer car than 2012. I have a 2008 MDX with less issues than many 5yr old vehicles. That's the reason behind the complaint. New no longer means better. It now means another bar has been added to the rolling prision cell.
I just value freedom and longevity. Maybe I'm in the minority.
I'll stop hating now.
Cheers.
I fucking hate that shit. Its almost like we're going to change gears with a complicated touch screen in the near future.
Enter the Cybertruck. That's right, you change direction with the touchscreen.
Welcome to "the future"
@@christopherlowery855 the Cybertruck is like a modern AAA game release, unfinished beta sold with a premium price. Cyberpunk 2077 in truck form, at least CP2077 couldn't kill you or chop off your fingers when it was released.
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 in 2077 all the cars have a stick lmao
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 My comment was more of an example of your observations more than it was an endorsement.
I concur with your assessment of the CyberPhuk. Both of them, lol.
Early Access is where its at. At least then you expect a buggy mess at more than half the price with the promise that the design will improve over time.
For sure, that "truck" is a $20k value at launch. Today, it's more of a $25-30k value. There have been improvements, but I wouldn't even pay $80k for that thing today. Just like I'm still not buying CyberPunk.
Cheers
@@christopherlowery855 I agree, early access at least has an implicit understanding from consumers that they're paying for a product that's unfinished to help with distributed testing. You can't lose fingers or die from a video game, yet. There's more wrong with the cybertruck than being buggy at launch, the thing shouldn't be on the road with other cars. Then again, numerous other vehicles are on the road that routinely fail safety tests
I'd be surprised if they reign supreme on the street
2 words: Neo Classic
Don't settle for less
I agree with you, better yet, a H pattern manual with 5-6 forward gears and a reverse combined with a clutch pedal is best.
What's really crazy is they introduced another middle man between you shifting gears. That would be a little motor. Something else that can break.
This why i want my first car from the 90s to the 2000s
And I thought my shifts were soulless..
Imagine swithing that thinking it was the radio 💀