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Spot on, Fact Boi! The official date of American Independence is 4 July 1776. As an added bonus factoid, the UK officially recognized US Independence in 1783, and our two nations established diplomatic relations in 1785. Since then, the US has had no closer ally. Conversely, the US is the UK's staunchest ally. Despite some good-natured ribbing, Brits and Yanks share a fraternal bond that is nigh unshakable.
@@RHCole yes, there have been bumps in the road, but that doesn't change anything about what I said. Look past the trees and try seeing the whole forest, bud.
"This isn't the 'Murder Porn Podcast'." Nah, it's the "One Hour of a British Man Wrestling with his Personal Feelings about the Death Penalty Podcast".
@@austinwagner3231 He's the first person to get my last name right. Probably cause it's british. All the call center people call and ask for Mr. Billingsley.
@@gonkdroid4prez539 I'm afraid if you just bring it back, it'll be applied way too broadly and innocent people will be killed and incompetent people will botch executions, because doctors aren't allowed to administer the injections etc. etc. There would have to be a very well defined new category for cases like these. I think there is something like "aggravated murder" in some states already.
no, if it is wrong for them to kill, it is wrong for us to kill them. lock them up under the jail and throw away the key, but if you kill them, you become them.
"I can't go back in time and change the things that went wrong because that would change the things that went right" is a sentiment that is proof of a life well lived.
Everyone that works on this is amazing but...as someone who dabbles in editing I reeeeeally appreciate everything Jen does so much lol always does such a great job
@@christopherengel7436 she is trapped in a middle floor. She isnt in the basement, but she isnt in the house, theres a small door on the landing between staircases to the basement. She was in the house, but one time in the early days of casual criminalist she made a mistake and was banished to the middle floor where she will never be seen again
Honestly I'm loving this True History podcast episode. Would love just hearing heavily detailed stories about individuals who aren't as well known as kings and famous people but still there's heavy details about their exploits and lives. Humanizes the past
Okay so it might not be exactly what you're looking for, but I think it's great: Puppet History (By Watcher) on RUclips. Not all the episodes are about individuals (some are about events) but the whole thing is just great. My favorites are the one's about St. Nicolas and Cardinal de Rohan (Diamond Necklace Affair)
You should check out "Forgotten Lives" and "Unfortunate Ends" here on RUclips (same creator). It's difficult to retell stories of lesser known people from back in the days since their lifes weren't as well recorded, but the creator behind the two channels typically tries to put in lots of information from what seems to be mostly academic sources.
This is nowhere close to true or history. "The United States Of America". So many people ignore the word 'of'. America is a place that has existed since Pangea separated. It didn't spring into existence in 1492 when that racist scum Columbus decided it was India. It didn't spring into existence when the first country that Europe recognized as independent was formed by Europeans. You racist white supremacist Eurocentrists are all totally delusional.
Good to see I'm not the only person curious about this. The French detective that arrested himself, after discovering that he killed a man in his sleep, would be a great video. Said he wouldn't let the criminal get away, and he didn't.
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I'm here for the next podcast hosted by Simon, "Fact Boy's Hot Take on History". Honestly though, I'd watch/listen to you doing a history podcast in the same form as this and Decoding the Unknown.
He actually had something similar in the past already. From 2019 there was the Biographics Podcast. The first thirteen episodes were him after taping the Biographics video just having a chilled-out chat about the person. I really enjoyed those and was really sad when they stopped (after that it was just the audio straight from the video because they were too time consuming or something). But now maybe Simon has enough followers for his ‘casual’ channels he could bring it back?
The different levels of crimes/changes of pace from each episode definitely keep things interesting when you aren’t sure what you’re gonna get and how Simon will turn parts of it into his own tangents An idea for a heist episode could be the Great Train Robbery in the UK. It’s got action and also Simons favourite, criminals making mistakes and getting caught!
I live in the town near where the Great Train Robbery happened, the local Wetherspoons has a whole wall of framed newspaper cuttings about it. It's pretty interesting, if anyone ends up in this neck of the woods I'd reccomend checking it out.
Although I know that Simon often complains about the hour + episodes of CC, but I enjoy them more than the shorter ones. This one has all kinds of educational information in it - history, geography, ballistics, anatomy, genealogy, the slow mental decline of a 35 year old English dad due to his recent foray into parenting, etc., etc.
To me, as an American, it's September 3rd, 1783. I personally don't recognize July 4th, 1776. The British colonies declared independence. Cool! There's still a shit ton of loyalist and loyalist forces here. The Treaty of Paris truly legitimized the United States' existence, so that's what I personally go off of, but that's just my take.
I liked this one, hearing about David's family history and the colonies. Interesting. Its good to do one that's not Ed Gein wearing another persons skin as a hat or some demented child killer.
Everyone is discovering themselves in this video! Jen is Pocahontas reincarnated, Danny decended from the Mayflower Murderer and Simon..decides that it is nice to have some quite fun time away from the kids once in a while and appreciates Dutch bluntness but realizes he is too Brittish to participate..I just realized in this chanel that the writers are the sandwhich filling, Jen is the seasoning and condiments and Simon is the toasted white bread we use to consume it.
I really enjoyed the format of this episode. I loved the history behind the "alleged" murder. I would definitely love more scripts like this. That being said, I enjoy all of the episodes on this channel!
They didn't hang him before he could reproduce. Think of how the world could have turned out if they had removed those Billingtons. A perfect world was within reach.
Simon, your writers have the most interesting back stories. I do enjoy a little history mixed in with some dastardly deeds. I also got a bit of Megaprojects sprinkled in too this episode. I didn't know the back story of the Mayflower voyage, and that there was another ship involved. Hey, maybe you could do a Sideprojects about the Speedwell.
Ahaha I guess they aren’t podcasts technically but TopTenz, Today I Found Out, highlight History, geographics, biographics are all history based shows for the most part, and decoding the unknown is history that Simon doesn’t believe is real😂 with that said if he started another podcast just literally reading stories from history I’d also watch
Well this was really interesting. I honestly didn’t mind the fact that there was only one murger - allegedly - and no gore whatsoever. Just like Simon, I got sucked in. This was fascinating, in fact. Well written, entertaining and educational.
Thank you Jen, David and Simon for a very interesting episode! Not sure it was a regular episode lol, but I definitely enjoyed listening and watching your hard work!
Check out the first thirteen episodes of The Biographics Podcast. It’s a very chilled out chat about the Biographics person recorded after Simon tapes the episode. I really enjoyed them (but he stopped doing them due to lack of time/interest so after thirteen they just became the audio of the Biographics video).
I've lived in Massachusetts my entire life, and all of this history is shoved down our throats starting at an early age. Its so funny to hear someone learn it for the first time.
American here...we effectively still have debtors' prison. Folks who have fines or court costs outstanding and don't keep up with their payment plans regularly have warrants issued for their arrest. The same is true for people behind on child support. Also, those on probation or parole can be given a violation and incarcerated or even resentenced for non-payment. It makes as little sense as it did back then. Just one of the reasons the justice system in the U.S. often becomes a revolving door for folks below the poverty line. 🤷♀️
I’m one of those descendants from the Mayflower Puritans, though not Billington. And my 9th great grandfather straight back was a Puritan preacher. I’m also supposed to be related to a man who was executed for the murder of his mother. He was found guilty on the basis of a dream.
I'm a descendant from one of the first free settlers to Australia, and back through 150 years of British low to middle class people. My Slavic knowledge is to the depth of my great great grandmother, and that is on the word of my grandmother because none of them have birth certificates. To the extent that my mother spent months trying to get hers, and discovered that she was not born in the city, let alone the country she was told about her whole life. Luckily one of the five languages she speaks is from her birth certificate. My grandmother told me stories of one of her relatives who had a castle and bathed in the blood of virgins. That woman has been in her own episode of this show and frighteningly her story matches that of my grandmother's bedtime stories. Or, my memories have changed to suit her (the bather's) stories better - that is the more logical result.
I feel super related to this episode. My 9th great grandmother was Dorothy Tolby, the 3rd women murderer in the colonies, and first to have her execution published in the news paper. Her execution is described in House of the Seven Gables, and John Winthrops journal. And my 15th great grandfather was the sherif of Lincolnshire.
It’s factually a load of balls! The people on the Mayflower weren’t fleeing persecution their dogma couldn’t tolerate England’s more accepting ways towards other religions. They were zealots and bigoted idiots
I often drove down route 3, passing near Plymouth and there was a sign that identified Billingtons sea. I really wondered why it had that name. This is an amazing coincidence.This is cool. "Plimoth" is a really beautiful places. Thanks Simon Whistler.
Simon, idk if you will read this but your videos have helped me so much in the past year. I suffer from anxiety and finding relief is becoming more of a struggle but for whatever reason, your videos always zen me out. I also love how friendly and funny everyone is in the comments. It’s not just a podcast, it’s my therapy
I'm descended from Billington too! I was so excited just reading the title. I found out by doing a family tree on Ancestry. I got at least one generation farther than him too. On the other side of the family, I can't trace any earlier than grandparents or great grandparents. It depends a lot on the country in regards to finding records. Wonderful video, as always.
I would absolutely watch a history channel from you, you're so much fun to listen to! I don't even like true crime but I watch you because I love your commentary
Might I recommend Biographics, Geographics, Warographics, Highlight History, and Into the Shadows? These are other channels by Simon with more of a history slant.
If you like this more casual vibe check out the first thirteen episodes of The Biographics Podcast. Originally it was Simon having a casual chat about the subject after he recorded the video. I really enjoyed them, but I believe due to time constraints after the thirteenth episode they just became the audio from the Biographics videos.
David, you are my hero, because in over four decades in the great American Experiment, with a mom who marinated me in the Mayflower story, I have NEVER fully understood the Holland thing. Why Holland? Why then leave again? How and why, any of that? And your true crime script made that segment of proto-American history make perfect sense. BRAVO. Also, I have my own British ancestor transported to the New World - Simon Speed, Chicken Thief. Stole a chicken, pan, and apron. We love that story.
Christ, your ancestor was hungry and branded as a criminal, though I don’t support thievery I am thankful for the difference in times. (Let me ignore people near me being arrested for shoplifting food during the holidays.)
Thank you. I love the differing things that get covered on this channel. As an American, I can truly appreciate the whole take here. Thank you David. Thank you Simon. Thank you Jenn.
Security Tip: "your mother's maiden name is literally the security answer that..." you don't have to answer accurately. Answer "mother's maiden name" with, say, Honda Civic, or something equally absurd but consistently-answered when asked and you'll never have to worry about someone learning your mum's maiden name again!
This was my favorite episode yet for the casual criminalist, and this has been one of my favorite podcasts of yours (I say one of, because I mostly listen to your podcasts these days). Absolutely would love a similar history style podcast from you, especially exploring historical figures and their modern ties. I've never seen something like that (I'd love some recommendations if anyone knows of one), but I'd be extremely interested in one from you and your team! This was a really interesting video and I love the personal notes in the script. I don't comment much (I may need to rectify this for the algorithm gods) but I love your videos. You're a great host, but it's also the great video editing and scripts that make these channels my go-to. Thanks to you and your team for making my work easier with great videos to listen to!
Fascinating! We are able to track our maternal family tree all the way back to William the Conqueror (there's a book written in 1941 which sets all this out). There has been someone from that family line in the US sonce 1637, but in Jamestown, not Plymouth (which is in Massachusetts, BTW). But, don't feel bad, Simon. On my father's side, I can't go back past my great-great-grandfather... Yes, I too love Ancestry.
I love Simon's train of thought on his videos 😂, that and how he banters with the script writers, make it so much more interesting and fun! Thanks for the great content on all of your channels!
This was a really interesting episode! Like a lot of others loved the history involved. And as an Australian glad it was all spelt out for me, because a lot of channels cater just to US audiences who already know this stuff. 😅 If there’s enough interest in a casual history podcast maybe Simon could bring back the original iteration of the Biographics Podcast?
One of my Irish ancestors went to America under a 7 year period of indentured servitude as well. He lucked out, though. He managed to marry the daughter of the wealthy family he was indentured to. He is famous for founding a city and his sons are more infamous for something else, which is why there are more records to be found for his family. I'm descended from his daughter. Not his son. But if he hadn't made a name for himself, I would likely never have been able to learn that much about him.
Giving a like for this episode for a few reasons: 1.) Made me chuckle A LOT 2.) As someone from Dutch Descent, Dutch Bluntness is real (even though I'm Dutch Canadian) 3.) Also have a connection to the Salem Witch Trials, so same time period and hearing about the early colonists and how they survived in North America is WILD like this story. Well done guys! (Also a huge fan of genealogy, curious about the Mayflower Society now)
In the meantime you can listen to the first thirteen episodes of The Biographics Podcast. It’s Simon after recording the video having a more casual discussion of the subject of the episode. But after the thirteenth episode due to the amount of time they took it because just the audio footage from the videos. Still good, but I miss the original iteration.
Now it's all the rage to share that shit on social media for clout Edit: King Von and other active chiraq gang members are a perfect example. Von was actually interviewed for a doc for a rival gang member, knowing full well that he killed her the entire time. Man was a demon
Please do more podcasts/YT channels where you (Simon) are being you, going off on tangents and such. I dig the other channels but it’s so much better when you go off script.
5:40 - Chapter 1 - Meet John Billington 12:35 - Chapter 2 - Meet the puritans 23:00 - Mid roll ads 26:00 - Chapter 3 - The past was the worst 34:30 - Chapter 4 - The bad news billingtons 44:45 - Chapter 5 - A murder in new england 53:35 - Chapter 6 - Exonerating John Billington 57:15 - Dismembered appendices
Excellent vid. I listen all the time and this is the first time I've watched. Your facial expressions are very genuine. I enjoy the concept of a "cold read" and it accentuates your skills at narration. Thanks again.
Some quality hobbies David 😎 great episode. i have an RAF story too. my grand uncle (from Poland) went over to serve in the RAF in '39 as a plane mechanic so he could get involved after Poland was invaded. I have a unique sweetheart bracelet made with steel chain, brit coins and hearts carved from broken spitfire windshields.
As a local history society employee I love how excited Simon is about his family history. A solid chunk of the members at my history center are people who grew up in town and want to know the history of their houses and their families and who donate family records and such when they find them. The connection to long since passed family members is a really cool, surprisingly powerful thing.
I would love a history one, there are so many interesting historical incidents that would do well with your insights. Plus you can always mix it up with some murders too!
In reference to surnames, my last name means “the wooden pole that attaches two or more draft animals to a load-bearing cart.” And I can’t imagine what in the hell my forebears did to get that name.
Dear David, You covered this so brilliantly! Your script really brought this antique murder tale to life... Which made me wonder if you're familiar with the grisly tale of Antoine LeBlanc, of New Jersey - another grim tale from the annals of American history, which I thought you might find interesting... 😉 Best to you all!
I'm descended from John Doane, the guy Mrs. Billings supposedly slandered. Husband is descended from John Howland, best known as the guy who fell off the Mayflower. He was obviously rescued. ;) Another ancestor was on the Speedwell, but he went back to Leidan where he died. His widow and children came to Plymouth Colony a few years later. (the other side of my family is Indigenous American. Thanksgiving is always interesting ;)
David-I love this episode very funny and historical! 😂👌Thou I enjoy the darker ones you’ve written including the HK and Gein one, this was a pleasant change of tone but still interesting and engaging. Cheers from Tokyo 🍻🏙
This is great! Loved the delve into history. I found my way to true-crime because I enjoyed documentaries about people, which wound up in documentaries about history, and history is...well...rather bloody. Now I guess I like finding out about history in new places through people who sometimes do heinous things. Great script :D
I've managed to trace my family history back nearly as far, back to the late 1600s in Ireland, at least on my father's side. It really isn't that hard if you do a bit of research.
This was the “pilgrim” character I was assigned in 5th grade. My crush was assigned to the man he killed. Anyways I got bullied so much during the few week roleplay we had that they changed my character to some old man. Good times.
I’d love for any of your other channels to be seat up in this format. It’s so much easier to retain and keeps my attention so much better than the list of facts recited straight faced on other channels
I found this episode very interesting, it sounds like David's family history is pretty similar to my own (lots of Plymouth Colony ancestors, mine stayed in America though). Also, I prefer this to the blood and gore horror episodes, which honestly I can't always make it through if it's too awful.
I loved this history/criminalist podcast. So cool to get some historical context. We don't need that for modern crime but certainly for the crime that goes that far back. Well done!
I’m a mayflower society member. Its kinda fun to go to the yearly trips but it always devolves into a bizarre pissing match of who can trace back to the most settlers. Its like trying to prove who is the most inbred. Weird flex but ok 🤣
Sure David we believe you With the family history stuff, my grandma has a journal from her families history written around 1850-1880, from ancestors in Prussia. Also many family trees. She’s let me borrow it. And it is fascinating
As the family's genealogist, I'd give my eyeteeth and all three livers for something like this on my family. I've got my great-grandma's farm log from the 1920s and some letters from my great-great-grandfather to my great-grandfather from between 1901 and 1910, and those are fascinating, but I'd like to read something from the mid 1800s.
@@cynthiasimpson931 it is amazing. He has his written history from his forefathers as well telling how life was like for his grandparents. The original journal, travels by horse, camels, train and boat yo end up in North America.
Loved this episode!! I've been doing some ancestry research and knew everything you were talking about, except the guy who got murdered. Baby Oceanus born on the Mayflower, the first Witch of Windsor burned at the stake, being a relative of one of the Culper Spy Ring, kissing cousins, Irish Republican Army, Presidents and politicians, so many rabbit holes. The real question is did the first husband who was killed in a silo accident, an accident, or perhaps it was murder!
The problem then, though, is that you have to remember which piece of information you used as an answer to which question where. Like, I literally caught myself with using the real name of a friend of mine whom I only ever call by a nickname. Me, creating my account: "Hah, let the hackers figure out that this is her name but not the name I call her all the time!" Me, six months later: "What do you mean it's not her name? I was sure it was her name. Would I have picked another friend's name? What's going on? Has someone hacked my account and changed my answers to these questions?" Big brain.
Or ... make up a different identity specifically for security questions. Such as - for reservations and coffee orders, I go by something like "Mary Jones." No one ever asks me to spell it or mispronounces it - quick, easy, less hassle for everyone. I gave old "Mary" an odd maiden name, and odd favorite things - her tastes never change, unlike mine that change constantly - it's easier to remember, and hackers be damned.
Aww jen you used Sean Connery in a clip!❤️ my grandpa looked so much like him that people stopped him daily for autographs. My grandpa even dressed like his charecter dressed in indiana jones! Hes passed now, but it makes my heart happy seeing pics of sean connery, esp from those movies. Thank you jen for that moment, in an otherwise messed up murder video. I dont know how ive never heard this case!!
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Spot on, Fact Boi! The official date of American Independence is 4 July 1776.
As an added bonus factoid, the UK officially recognized US Independence in 1783, and our two nations established diplomatic relations in 1785.
Since then, the US has had no closer ally. Conversely, the US is the UK's staunchest ally. Despite some good-natured ribbing, Brits and Yanks share a fraternal bond that is nigh unshakable.
Britain burned the White House down in 1812, dude.
@@RHCole yes, there have been bumps in the road, but that doesn't change anything about what I said. Look past the trees and try seeing the whole forest, bud.
So if you’re into chilled out/casual history could you bring back the first iteration of the Biographics Podcast? 😉 I really enjoyed that.
"This isn't the 'Murder Porn Podcast'."
Nah, it's the "One Hour of a British Man Wrestling with his Personal Feelings about the Death Penalty Podcast".
And we love it!
Danny should take some points on this, a 10 minut introduction dont cut it any more :P
Im just here for the "British man cant figure out how to pronounce proper nouns"
@@austinwagner3231 and "British man has hilariously no idea where things are in the U.S., or sometimes other places."
@@austinwagner3231 He's the first person to get my last name right. Probably cause it's british. All the call center people call and ask for Mr. Billingsley.
45 minutes in, and finally to the first murder. David has vastly outdone Danny on the intro.
Legend.
Now we just need to see Sam and Jen go head to head with the memes.
Simon one year ago:"I don't believe in the death penalty"
Simon after 650 horrific murders: "Let's hang them"
"gas them. Hang them" too.
Hell yeah! The death penalty is reasonable to use in certain circumstances!
yeah before watching these I was shaky on it, now I think we should bring back the chair or hanging for some specific people
@@gonkdroid4prez539 I'm afraid if you just bring it back, it'll be applied way too broadly and innocent people will be killed and incompetent people will botch executions, because doctors aren't allowed to administer the injections etc. etc.
There would have to be a very well defined new category for cases like these. I think there is something like "aggravated murder" in some states already.
no, if it is wrong for them to kill, it is wrong for us to kill them. lock them up under the jail and throw away the key, but if you kill them, you become them.
"I can't go back in time and change the things that went wrong because that would change the things that went right" is a sentiment that is proof of a life well lived.
Everyone that works on this is amazing but...as someone who dabbles in editing I reeeeeally appreciate everything Jen does so much lol always does such a great job
@Michael petrey I thought that you were gonna say “someone who dabbles in murder as much as David“ 😆😆
Jen rocks! Her back must be killing her from carrying Simon. I wonder if she is a captive in the basement with the writers?
@@christopherengel7436 she is trapped in a middle floor. She isnt in the basement, but she isnt in the house, theres a small door on the landing between staircases to the basement. She was in the house, but one time in the early days of casual criminalist she made a mistake and was banished to the middle floor where she will never be seen again
@@Sniperboy5551 hahahahahahha
Loved the burning horses 🔥🐎 edit on this one. 😂
Honestly I'm loving this True History podcast episode. Would love just hearing heavily detailed stories about individuals who aren't as well known as kings and famous people but still there's heavy details about their exploits and lives. Humanizes the past
Okay so it might not be exactly what you're looking for, but I think it's great: Puppet History (By Watcher) on RUclips. Not all the episodes are about individuals (some are about events) but the whole thing is just great. My favorites are the one's about St. Nicolas and Cardinal de Rohan (Diamond Necklace Affair)
You should check out "Forgotten Lives" and "Unfortunate Ends" here on RUclips (same creator). It's difficult to retell stories of lesser known people from back in the days since their lifes weren't as well recorded, but the creator behind the two channels typically tries to put in lots of information from what seems to be mostly academic sources.
This is nowhere close to true or history. "The United States Of America". So many people ignore the word 'of'. America is a place that has existed since Pangea separated. It didn't spring into existence in 1492 when that racist scum Columbus decided it was India. It didn't spring into existence when the first country that Europe recognized as independent was formed by Europeans. You racist white supremacist Eurocentrists are all totally delusional.
Good to see I'm not the only person curious about this. The French detective that arrested himself, after discovering that he killed a man in his sleep, would be a great video. Said he wouldn't let the criminal get away, and he didn't.
That sounds like a great idea. Now I'm gonna impatiently wait for it.
prety sure he already did that one
Sounds like a early 1900s crime mystery book lol
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Simon & Team,
You're all really helping me right now.. between bombs, air raid sirens, checking on family/friends to see if they are still alive.. these videos, even if I can't watch them in full all at once, they pull me away from the war and the horrors of what's going on in Ukraine right now. even if it's only for a few minutes at a time.
I wish there were words to express how much these videos are appreciated.
Thanks 🇺🇦
Sending love and support. I have no way of really knowing what you are feeling but I stand with you.
Stay safe. ❤
Know that people care. That we are with you in spirit & hoping for this horrible situation to end quickly - with the defeat of fascist Putin. I'm so sorry you are going through this! Stay safe! Keep hope!
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The writer here. Will keep my fingers crossed for you. Let me know if there is anything I can do to directly help.
Hang in there! Slava Ukraini!
I'm here for the next podcast hosted by Simon, "Fact Boy's Hot Take on History". Honestly though, I'd watch/listen to you doing a history podcast in the same form as this and Decoding the Unknown.
I am so game *if* Simon actually includes his hot takes 😅
Saaaaaaame that seems like such an excellent idea. God knows my RUclips is already SimonTube so why not? I’m in!
He actually had something similar in the past already. From 2019 there was the Biographics Podcast. The first thirteen episodes were him after taping the Biographics video just having a chilled-out chat about the person. I really enjoyed those and was really sad when they stopped (after that it was just the audio straight from the video because they were too time consuming or something). But now maybe Simon has enough followers for his ‘casual’ channels he could bring it back?
Yesssss please keep him busy so he gives us content and doesnt see his family
Soon.
I enjoyed this one - part history lesson, part CSI. Also definitely a lot more light hearted which I personally think is a nice reprieve
after the night stalker episode? smothering kittens would be a nice reprieve after that
This episode has been a very nice palate cleanser from all the extra gruesome murders
Can't get enough of this awesome show, knowing fact boy lives in the Czech Republic would love to an episode about some Czech criminals!
Or the Prague golem
@@theUglyGypsy I was thinking someone more like Ivan Roubal or Jaroslav Stodola and his wife Dana.
@@theUglyGypsy I can Google this but I like human interaction soooo..... Whoa that? Lol
@@theUglyGypsy who's *
@@winsalot84 A legendary, supernatural figure that "allegedly"once stalked the crooked alleyways and dark corners of Prague's Jewish ghetto
Honestly I got so caught up in the story i forgot I was listening to CC. A history podcast would be amazing!
The different levels of crimes/changes of pace from each episode definitely keep things interesting when you aren’t sure what you’re gonna get and how Simon will turn parts of it into his own tangents
An idea for a heist episode could be the Great Train Robbery in the UK. It’s got action and also Simons favourite, criminals making mistakes and getting caught!
I live in the town near where the Great Train Robbery happened, the local Wetherspoons has a whole wall of framed newspaper cuttings about it. It's pretty interesting, if anyone ends up in this neck of the woods I'd reccomend checking it out.
Although I know that Simon often complains about the hour + episodes of CC, but I enjoy them more than the shorter ones. This one has all kinds of educational information in it - history, geography, ballistics, anatomy, genealogy, the slow mental decline of a 35 year old English dad due to his recent foray into parenting, etc., etc.
I prefer the long ones.
"When was America?" is the most British thing I've ever heard LOL
I’m Australian and my thoughts mirrored Simon’s most of the episode. 🤣
I’m descended from Stephen Hopkins.
To me, as an American, it's September 3rd, 1783. I personally don't recognize July 4th, 1776. The British colonies declared independence. Cool! There's still a shit ton of loyalist and loyalist forces here. The Treaty of Paris truly legitimized the United States' existence, so that's what I personally go off of, but that's just my take.
You take the fact boi out of imperialism but you can't take the imperialism out of fact boi
America is independent!?
I liked this one, hearing about David's family history and the colonies. Interesting. Its good to do one that's not Ed Gein wearing another persons skin as a hat or some demented child killer.
:)
Everyone is discovering themselves in this video! Jen is Pocahontas reincarnated, Danny decended from the Mayflower Murderer and Simon..decides that it is nice to have some quite fun time away from the kids once in a while and appreciates Dutch bluntness but realizes he is too Brittish to participate..I just realized in this chanel that the writers are the sandwhich filling, Jen is the seasoning and condiments and Simon is the toasted white bread we use to consume it.
The writer this episode was David not Danny
Brilliant analogy!
I really enjoyed the format of this episode. I loved the history behind the "alleged" murder. I would definitely love more scripts like this. That being said, I enjoy all of the episodes on this channel!
Great script as always, David. It was really cool getting to learn about your family at the same time.
Thanks!
They didn't hang him before he could reproduce. Think of how the world could have turned out if they had removed those Billingtons. A perfect world was within reach.
@@dr.davidbaker86 of course; cheers my friend.
Simon, your writers have the most interesting back stories.
I do enjoy a little history mixed in with some dastardly deeds. I also got a bit of Megaprojects sprinkled in too this episode. I didn't know the back story of the Mayflower voyage, and that there was another ship involved. Hey, maybe you could do a Sideprojects about the Speedwell.
I am related to the man that saved the Donner Party. So that’s cool. We all have something. Also, please do a history podcast!!! I’d be all over that!
Ahaha I guess they aren’t podcasts technically but TopTenz, Today I Found Out, highlight History, geographics, biographics are all history based shows for the most part, and decoding the unknown is history that Simon doesn’t believe is real😂
with that said if he started another podcast just literally reading stories from history I’d also watch
I would totally be on board with a new channel that focused on Simon commenting on history. That would be awesome!
Well this was really interesting. I honestly didn’t mind the fact that there was only one murger - allegedly - and no gore whatsoever. Just like Simon, I got sucked in. This was fascinating, in fact. Well written, entertaining and educational.
Thanks!
@@dr.davidbaker86 coincidence, my great grandmother was a Billington, but a Lancashire one...
Thank you Jen, David and Simon for a very interesting episode! Not sure it was a regular episode lol, but I definitely enjoyed listening and watching your hard work!
i'd love a history podcast- i thoroughly enjoyed today's episode!
If Fact Boi is ranting, I'll be listening.
Except his podcast failed
Check out the first thirteen episodes of The Biographics Podcast. It’s a very chilled out chat about the Biographics person recorded after Simon tapes the episode. I really enjoyed them (but he stopped doing them due to lack of time/interest so after thirteen they just became the audio of the Biographics video).
Have you met Simon's other 9 channels?
@@sallyh.6362 yes but i need like a more chaotic take on history topics from him lol
I've lived in Massachusetts my entire life, and all of this history is shoved down our throats starting at an early age. Its so funny to hear someone learn it for the first time.
Hey I'm from mass too
American here...we effectively still have debtors' prison. Folks who have fines or court costs outstanding and don't keep up with their payment plans regularly have warrants issued for their arrest. The same is true for people behind on child support. Also, those on probation or parole can be given a violation and incarcerated or even resentenced for non-payment. It makes as little sense as it did back then.
Just one of the reasons the justice system in the U.S. often becomes a revolving door for folks below the poverty line. 🤷♀️
It seems about every other of the LastWeekTonight episodes deals with this in some way.
Really liked this one! The history/crime combo is great. Thanks
I’m one of those descendants from the Mayflower Puritans, though not Billington. And my 9th great grandfather straight back was a Puritan preacher.
I’m also supposed to be related to a man who was executed for the murder of his mother. He was found guilty on the basis of a dream.
Seems like a legit form of evidence lol
I'm a descendant from one of the first free settlers to Australia, and back through 150 years of British low to middle class people. My Slavic knowledge is to the depth of my great great grandmother, and that is on the word of my grandmother because none of them have birth certificates. To the extent that my mother spent months trying to get hers, and discovered that she was not born in the city, let alone the country she was told about her whole life. Luckily one of the five languages she speaks is from her birth certificate. My grandmother told me stories of one of her relatives who had a castle and bathed in the blood of virgins. That woman has been in her own episode of this show and frighteningly her story matches that of my grandmother's bedtime stories. Or, my memories have changed to suit her (the bather's) stories better - that is the more logical result.
Lulz
Love the historical story in this format! Great job, David!
Thanks!
I feel super related to this episode. My 9th great grandmother was Dorothy Tolby, the 3rd women murderer in the colonies, and first to have her execution published in the news paper. Her execution is described in House of the Seven Gables, and John Winthrops journal.
And my 15th great grandfather was the sherif of Lincolnshire.
Let me guess. She wasn't a cultist and the cultists kled her for that....
Listening to Simon go off on 20 minute tangents in a podcast about history would be the absolute best!!
"Someone in my past must have been an amazing whistler" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this line floored me 🤣🤣🤣
One of my favorites so far!!! Love that it's both history and criminal history. Keep it coming.
It’s factually a load of balls! The people on the Mayflower weren’t fleeing persecution their dogma couldn’t tolerate England’s more accepting ways towards other religions. They were zealots and bigoted idiots
Absolutely brilliant episode..!! David is an excellent addition to the basement crew..
Why thank you :)
Wow, great job David. This one was fascinating. And Jen? You're killing it with the editing!
Thanks!
I often drove down route 3, passing near Plymouth and there was a sign that identified Billingtons sea. I really wondered why it had that name. This is an amazing coincidence.This is cool. "Plimoth" is a really beautiful places. Thanks Simon Whistler.
17:45 I also appreciate that kind of directness because I’m autistic and social subtlety often bewilders me
Alright late to the party but I love this! Time for more Simon deciding his own personal feelings on capital punishment with an audience.
Simon, idk if you will read this but your videos have helped me so much in the past year. I suffer from anxiety and finding relief is becoming more of a struggle but for whatever reason, your videos always zen me out. I also love how friendly and funny everyone is in the comments. It’s not just a podcast, it’s my therapy
I'm descended from Billington too! I was so excited just reading the title. I found out by doing a family tree on Ancestry. I got at least one generation farther than him too. On the other side of the family, I can't trace any earlier than grandparents or great grandparents. It depends a lot on the country in regards to finding records. Wonderful video, as always.
Hey there, cousin.
So am I! 😂
This one has many things. It had history, information to think about, random information and murder. How perfect. Great script David.
Thanks!
@@dr.davidbaker86 You're welcome. :)
I would absolutely watch a history channel from you, you're so much fun to listen to! I don't even like true crime but I watch you because I love your commentary
Might I recommend Biographics, Geographics, Warographics, Highlight History, and Into the Shadows? These are other channels by Simon with more of a history slant.
@@Arc115YT I do really enjoy the biographics, and i'll definitely check out the other channels you listed. Thank you for the suggestions!
If you like this more casual vibe check out the first thirteen episodes of The Biographics Podcast. Originally it was Simon having a casual chat about the subject after he recorded the video. I really enjoyed them, but I believe due to time constraints after the thirteenth episode they just became the audio from the Biographics videos.
I love these episodes and I think everyone does a great job, but Jen's editing was just amazing on this one.
David, you are my hero, because in over four decades in the great American Experiment, with a mom who marinated me in the Mayflower story, I have NEVER fully understood the Holland thing. Why Holland? Why then leave again? How and why, any of that? And your true crime script made that segment of proto-American history make perfect sense. BRAVO.
Also, I have my own British ancestor transported to the New World - Simon Speed, Chicken Thief. Stole a chicken, pan, and apron.
We love that story.
Christ, your ancestor was hungry and branded as a criminal, though I don’t support thievery I am thankful for the difference in times.
(Let me ignore people near me being arrested for shoplifting food during the holidays.)
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 yeah I mean that's part of what we love about the story. He was a PRACTICAL chicken thief, who intended to eat.
That's really great to hear :)
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 interested in the story behind your handle.
Thank you. I love the differing things that get covered on this channel. As an American, I can truly appreciate the whole take here. Thank you David. Thank you Simon. Thank you Jenn.
Is David's "How to be a serial killer and get away with it" class on Skillshare? Asking for a friend
Nah. It's just a closed group on Facebook.
I found this extremely compelling. Thank you all.
"Pay no attention to my internet search history. I'm a writer, not a serial killer."
Exactly.
This was very entertaining! Thank you David😊
Security Tip: "your mother's maiden name is literally the security answer that..." you don't have to answer accurately. Answer "mother's maiden name" with, say, Honda Civic, or something equally absurd but consistently-answered when asked and you'll never have to worry about someone learning your mum's maiden name again!
This was my favorite episode yet for the casual criminalist, and this has been one of my favorite podcasts of yours (I say one of, because I mostly listen to your podcasts these days). Absolutely would love a similar history style podcast from you, especially exploring historical figures and their modern ties. I've never seen something like that (I'd love some recommendations if anyone knows of one), but I'd be extremely interested in one from you and your team! This was a really interesting video and I love the personal notes in the script.
I don't comment much (I may need to rectify this for the algorithm gods) but I love your videos. You're a great host, but it's also the great video editing and scripts that make these channels my go-to. Thanks to you and your team for making my work easier with great videos to listen to!
Fascinating! We are able to track our maternal family tree all the way back to William the Conqueror (there's a book written in 1941 which sets all this out). There has been someone from that family line in the US sonce 1637, but in Jamestown, not Plymouth (which is in Massachusetts, BTW). But, don't feel bad, Simon. On my father's side, I can't go back past my great-great-grandfather... Yes, I too love Ancestry.
I love Simon's train of thought on his videos 😂, that and how he banters with the script writers, make it so much more interesting and fun! Thanks for the great content on all of your channels!
This was a really interesting episode! Like a lot of others loved the history involved. And as an Australian glad it was all spelt out for me, because a lot of channels cater just to US audiences who already know this stuff. 😅
If there’s enough interest in a casual history podcast maybe Simon could bring back the original iteration of the Biographics Podcast?
Yes do the history podcast. I always enjoy listenling to you 1h+ vids at work
One of my Irish ancestors went to America under a 7 year period of indentured servitude as well. He lucked out, though. He managed to marry the daughter of the wealthy family he was indentured to. He is famous for founding a city and his sons are more infamous for something else, which is why there are more records to be found for his family. I'm descended from his daughter. Not his son. But if he hadn't made a name for himself, I would likely never have been able to learn that much about him.
Giving a like for this episode for a few reasons: 1.) Made me chuckle A LOT 2.) As someone from Dutch Descent, Dutch Bluntness is real (even though I'm Dutch Canadian) 3.) Also have a connection to the Salem Witch Trials, so same time period and hearing about the early colonists and how they survived in North America is WILD like this story. Well done guys! (Also a huge fan of genealogy, curious about the Mayflower Society now)
I'm definitely down for a history podcast from Simon and crew! J.
In the meantime you can listen to the first thirteen episodes of The Biographics Podcast. It’s Simon after recording the video having a more casual discussion of the subject of the episode. But after the thirteenth episode due to the amount of time they took it because just the audio footage from the videos. Still good, but I miss the original iteration.
Yes please Simon add more of your comments and thoughts in these videos. Always entertaining and can give relatable thoughts!
"don't Podcast your crimes" 😂😂
Now it's all the rage to share that shit on social media for clout
Edit: King Von and other active chiraq gang members are a perfect example. Von was actually interviewed for a doc for a rival gang member, knowing full well that he killed her the entire time. Man was a demon
Great video! Simon is my favorite light-hearted yet enthusiastic priss on the internet
Please do more podcasts/YT channels where you (Simon) are being you, going off on tangents and such. I dig the other channels but it’s so much better when you go off script.
This was one of the most interesting episode you and your team have done Simon great job
5:40 - Chapter 1 - Meet John Billington
12:35 - Chapter 2 - Meet the puritans
23:00 - Mid roll ads
26:00 - Chapter 3 - The past was the worst
34:30 - Chapter 4 - The bad news billingtons
44:45 - Chapter 5 - A murder in new england
53:35 - Chapter 6 - Exonerating John Billington
57:15 - Dismembered appendices
Excellent vid. I listen all the time and this is the first time I've watched. Your facial expressions are very genuine. I enjoy the concept of a "cold read" and it accentuates your skills at narration. Thanks again.
Some quality hobbies David 😎 great episode.
i have an RAF story too. my grand uncle (from Poland) went over to serve in the RAF in '39 as a plane mechanic so he could get involved after Poland was invaded. I have a unique sweetheart bracelet made with steel chain, brit coins and hearts carved from broken spitfire windshields.
That's awesome
@@dr.davidbaker86 😎🤙🏻 loving yr episodes
As a local history society employee I love how excited Simon is about his family history. A solid chunk of the members at my history center are people who grew up in town and want to know the history of their houses and their families and who donate family records and such when they find them. The connection to long since passed family members is a really cool, surprisingly powerful thing.
The Murderer In The Family Tree Apologist meets the Casual Criminalist! Well done, crew!
I would love a history one, there are so many interesting historical incidents that would do well with your insights.
Plus you can always mix it up with some murders too!
In reference to surnames, my last name means “the wooden pole that attaches two or more draft animals to a load-bearing cart.” And I can’t imagine what in the hell my forebears did to get that name.
Perhaps they invented it and people were like "Hey, now we can attach more than one animal to a cart! This is genius!".
They probably just were long and slim..
Could be their job was making them? Trade-based surnames are pretty common.
Dear David,
You covered this so brilliantly! Your script really brought this antique murder tale to life... Which made me wonder if you're familiar with the grisly tale of Antoine LeBlanc, of New Jersey - another grim tale from the annals of American history, which I thought you might find interesting... 😉
Best to you all!
I'm descended from John Doane, the guy Mrs. Billings supposedly slandered. Husband is descended from John Howland, best known as the guy who fell off the Mayflower. He was obviously rescued. ;) Another ancestor was on the Speedwell, but he went back to Leidan where he died. His widow and children came to Plymouth Colony a few years later. (the other side of my family is Indigenous American. Thanksgiving is always interesting ;)
David-I love this episode very funny and historical! 😂👌Thou I enjoy the darker ones you’ve written including the HK and Gein one, this was a pleasant change of tone but still interesting and engaging. Cheers from Tokyo 🍻🏙
*smiles cheerfully :)
Would love to hear your take on some historical crimes like the death of Amy Dudley
David and Simon, this was so impressive... truly riveting and funnyI was glued 👏👏👏
There is always the hobby of drinking to excess and going on a ghost tour with the intent of being mean to ghosts. Best Decoding the Unknown episode.
Hahahaha
This is great! Loved the delve into history. I found my way to true-crime because I enjoyed documentaries about people, which wound up in documentaries about history, and history is...well...rather bloody. Now I guess I like finding out about history in new places through people who sometimes do heinous things. Great script :D
You should do Ken McElroy 40 people where present when he was shot and everyone said they did not see a thing
Watching Simon learn that story would be absolute GOLD.
A man so dreadful, that everyone just shrugged and said, “good heavens, that bullet just didn’t like him”.
@@MissBee13 We have a town bully that my mom is convinced this will happen too. Plus, he keeps antagonizing the cops, which isn't too bright.
Loved your family history ,David.
I've managed to trace my family history back nearly as far, back to the late 1600s in Ireland, at least on my father's side. It really isn't that hard if you do a bit of research.
Quite literally I'll binge watch just about any content you create
This was the “pilgrim” character I was assigned in 5th grade. My crush was assigned to the man he killed. Anyways I got bullied so much during the few week roleplay we had that they changed my character to some old man. Good times.
I’d love for any of your other channels to be seat up in this format.
It’s so much easier to retain and keeps my attention so much better than the list of facts recited straight faced on other channels
I found this episode very interesting, it sounds like David's family history is pretty similar to my own (lots of Plymouth Colony ancestors, mine stayed in America though). Also, I prefer this to the blood and gore horror episodes, which honestly I can't always make it through if it's too awful.
:)
I agree! And I guess we're all distant cousins... I have three ancestors from the Mayflower too
I loved this history/criminalist podcast. So cool to get some historical context. We don't need that for modern crime but certainly for the crime that goes that far back. Well done!
I imagine "Independence Date" was the title of a scrapped "Epic Movie" that parodies both Alien invasion Sci-fi movies and Romcoms.
I love Jen's various "cameos". The Kathy Bates "Um, no I didn't." one was my favorite haha
I’m a mayflower society member. Its kinda fun to go to the yearly trips but it always devolves into a bizarre pissing match of who can trace back to the most settlers. Its like trying to prove who is the most inbred. Weird flex but ok 🤣
Hahaha
I love how much you talk about the love you have for your children Simon. You are an AMAZAZING dad!😁
"Don't podcast your crimes."
The tips just keep on coming!
i love how 3/4ths of this episode is providing the context leading up to how john and john even met
Sure David we believe you
With the family history stuff, my grandma has a journal from her families history written around 1850-1880, from ancestors in Prussia. Also many family trees. She’s let me borrow it. And it is fascinating
As the family's genealogist, I'd give my eyeteeth and all three livers for something like this on my family. I've got my great-grandma's farm log from the 1920s and some letters from my great-great-grandfather to my great-grandfather from between 1901 and 1910, and those are fascinating, but I'd like to read something from the mid 1800s.
@@cynthiasimpson931 it is amazing. He has his written history from his forefathers as well telling how life was like for his grandparents. The original journal, travels by horse, camels, train and boat yo end up in North America.
Loved this episode!! I've been doing some ancestry research and knew everything you were talking about, except the guy who got murdered. Baby Oceanus born on the Mayflower, the first Witch of Windsor burned at the stake, being a relative of one of the Culper Spy Ring, kissing cousins, Irish Republican Army, Presidents and politicians, so many rabbit holes. The real question is did the first husband who was killed in a silo accident, an accident, or perhaps it was murder!
Simon, word of advice:
Don't answer those security questions correctly, instead answer them with a piece of information known only to you.
That's what I do now after my social medias were hacked 😂
The problem then, though, is that you have to remember which piece of information you used as an answer to which question where. Like, I literally caught myself with using the real name of a friend of mine whom I only ever call by a nickname.
Me, creating my account: "Hah, let the hackers figure out that this is her name but not the name I call her all the time!"
Me, six months later: "What do you mean it's not her name? I was sure it was her name. Would I have picked another friend's name? What's going on? Has someone hacked my account and changed my answers to these questions?"
Big brain.
Or ... make up a different identity specifically for security questions. Such as - for reservations and coffee orders, I go by something like "Mary Jones." No one ever asks me to spell it or mispronounces it - quick, easy, less hassle for everyone. I gave old "Mary" an odd maiden name, and odd favorite things - her tastes never change, unlike mine that change constantly - it's easier to remember, and hackers be damned.
Love this one Simon, thanks for making it!
Havent heard from Callum in a while, he must have escaped the basement!!
Great vid, Simon. Informative and entertaining.
Aww jen you used Sean Connery in a clip!❤️ my grandpa looked so much like him that people stopped him daily for autographs. My grandpa even dressed like his charecter dressed in indiana jones! Hes passed now, but it makes my heart happy seeing pics of sean connery, esp from those movies. Thank you jen for that moment, in an otherwise messed up murder video. I dont know how ive never heard this case!!
Did your gpa pull with the ladies, that you know of?
@@JK-gm6kk yes he did. He was dashing and so charismatic!