Totally agree with your review.ive done 1800km on my power sx race size xl. Im 6 foot 3 and feels natural coming from a meta v4.2 with 482 reach and the seat tube alot shorter and steeper now which is really good.alot more centered on the bike now! i did consider a size large though. i was going to shorten the stem and get higher bars if it was too long but havnt felt the need to.its good on steep and jumps. Turn the power down to do an epic ride but for me its two or three hours of full power at my local like yourself.
Hi, thanks for the great review! I currently ride a Commencal Clash in size XL. I was wondering if you have any experience with how the geometry "feel" differs between non-electric and electric versions of similar bikes. My Clash fits me really well, and while the geometry seems very similar on paper between the Clash and the Meta SX, I wanted to check before I pull the trigger on a Meta Power.
I'm buying the meta power sx essential with the fox suspension. You were testing the meta power race model with the Zeb forks I think? As the Orbea you rode had the same fox fork as the essential model, how would you compare them to the Zeb. Great review!
Did you have issues with BB strikes? I really want the mullet but a little worried about pedal strikes and chain ring strikes over some of our mote technical downhill.
How was the seat tube length for you? I’ve gotten picky about having too long of seat tube on bikes and this one looks like it’s on the long side. At least on the XL frame. That was one of the biggest reasons I went with the Turbo Levo when I got an Ebike. Hoping the next version of the Meta Power addresses that.
Honestly didn’t bug me 🤷♂️. I have heard that complaint from others but it wasn’t an issue for me and I did take it down some 40-50% gradients outside of Boulder if you know where I’m talkin about.
Great review, I think this seals the deal on getting the Power SX. They don't have my size in the Race version right now and I am leaning towards the Signature, would you spec up to that one if you could or go Race all day long?
I ordered mine in november in size XL, im 6'3 and it feels too long for me. Its not unrideable long but i wish I ordered L. Everything else is absolutely awesome. So if someone out there have an L and wants XL let me know
@@felipehenriquez6334 so I have been riding my bike for a few months now. I changed stem to 35mm, and it feels better. I would say I'm pretty much comfortable on the bike riding steep downhill, trails but when it comes to steep tech climbs I think I would be better on size L same applies to tech switchbacks. I'm in-between sizes so are you as well and it comes to personal preference, do you like smaller bike feel or larger more stable bike feel.
@@kevinescott8468 I can ride about 15-18 miles in steep steep terrain in turbo mode pedaling hard and using lots of juice for about 3 hours before I need to bail. But by then and riding that way I’m kinda gassed.
Thanks, another question. Did you have any observations regarding the aluminum frame versus a carbon…..I am trying to narrow down between the YT Decoy and the Commencal Meta Power SX and was wondering if you hade the chance to look at the YT. Enjoy your videos 😊
@@kevinescott8468 hey thanks! You know I haven’t been on the decoy but I can say I personally just love a metal bike. The ONLY note is when you try to grab it by the top tube, around the shock area, the metal is a little hollowed out to make space for the shock and it’s can be painful to lift the bike from there.
Such a tough call. I think if fun is jumping around and maneuverability, go L. If fun means going as fast as you possibly can in a relatively straight line, XL.
Wild with mullet would be a serious contender. My wild is more stretched out but it’s also an XL. Apples to apples I think they both feel pretty upright.
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@@MTBJonnie Thank you, waiting for the Wild review
It’s a rubber cover that sort of slots itself in right above the motor. No issues so far. It is a thinner rubber so I could see it being a wear item that you may have to replace if owning the bike for a while.
To be honest I forgot to weigh it. Felt in line with my wild which is about 54 pounds though. 50-56 or so is negotiable in my opinion though with e-bikes.
Thanks for doing the review, there are basically none of the Meta SX. I ordered one last week.
Yeah I thought it was weird there were none as it’s super relevant and on the new Bosch platform.
Amazomg bike, I'm between the meta sx and the torque on cf 9, I live in Andorra
@@micagas does the canyon have the bosch?
@@MTBJonnieonly the strive
@@MTBJonnie the canyon torque has the ep 801
Totally agree with your review.ive done 1800km on my power sx race size xl.
Im 6 foot 3 and feels natural coming from a meta v4.2 with 482 reach and the seat tube alot shorter and steeper now which is really good.alot more centered on the bike now!
i did consider a size large though.
i was going to shorten the stem and get higher bars if it was too long but havnt felt the need to.its good on steep and jumps.
Turn the power down to do an epic ride but for me its two or three hours of full power at my local like yourself.
First good review i found on this e-bike! Did you try the giant e-reign?
Appreciate it! Nope, haven’t ridden that one yet.
Great Review, sounds honest
another good review, thanks man! I always get the impression that Jon Mottern has played football at some point in time. Is that so?
Thanks for the line!
lol nah. Some LAX in high school but just MTB since my 20s.
Hi, thanks for the great review! I currently ride a Commencal Clash in size XL.
I was wondering if you have any experience with how the geometry "feel" differs between non-electric and electric versions of similar bikes. My Clash fits me really well, and while the geometry seems very similar on paper between the Clash and the Meta SX, I wanted to check before I pull the trigger on a Meta Power.
You see a Jon Mottern review - you watch it!
You’re the best, dude.
@@MTBJonnie
Also, great review!
Thanks for not naming the “place” !
Sacred things are sacred
I'm buying the meta power sx essential with the fox suspension. You were testing the meta power race model with the Zeb forks I think? As the Orbea you rode had the same fox fork as the essential model, how would you compare them to the Zeb. Great review!
I think the Fox performance 38 rides great I have no complaints!
Did you have issues with BB strikes? I really want the mullet but a little worried about pedal strikes and chain ring strikes over some of our mote technical downhill.
@@STLMTB I did smash the motor shield twice in some very rocky tech but most of the time I can maneuver to avoid. It’s surprisingly playful
So between wild and meta power sx? Specially for jumps and burns? Nice review!
If I’m chasing timed runs, wild. For pure fun, SX.
Great review trying to decide between this and a Turbo Levo Carbon Comp, any advice?
Personally I’d opt for the Bosch motor in the Commencal. The Levo will be a more plush ride though if that’s what you’re after.
Curious to know where you were riding in Colorado.
How was the seat tube length for you? I’ve gotten picky about having too long of seat tube on bikes and this one looks like it’s on the long side. At least on the XL frame. That was one of the biggest reasons I went with the Turbo Levo when I got an Ebike. Hoping the next version of the Meta Power addresses that.
Honestly didn’t bug me 🤷♂️. I have heard that complaint from others but it wasn’t an issue for me and I did take it down some 40-50% gradients outside of Boulder if you know where I’m talkin about.
Great review, I think this seals the deal on getting the Power SX. They don't have my size in the Race version right now and I am leaning towards the Signature, would you spec up to that one if you could or go Race all day long?
For me the value of the race is just really good but if you can pony up for the signature do it.
I ordered mine in november in size XL, im 6'3 and it feels too long for me. Its not unrideable long but i wish I ordered L. Everything else is absolutely awesome. So if someone out there have an L and wants XL let me know
I thought it might be the case, but lucky my friend has the same bike in a L and it felt like a XL (same height)
Hi, im 6,2ft and I was about to order size XL but based on this maybe I should get size L, Do you still feel you should be riding size L?
@@felipehenriquez6334 so I have been riding my bike for a few months now. I changed stem to 35mm, and it feels better. I would say I'm pretty much comfortable on the bike riding steep downhill, trails but when it comes to steep tech climbs I think I would be better on size L same applies to tech switchbacks. I'm in-between sizes so are you as well and it comes to personal preference, do you like smaller bike feel or larger more stable bike feel.
@@bonntec thank you!
What kind of range are you seeing, i know it is subjective to the rider and such but curious as to what you are experiencing?
@@kevinescott8468 I can ride about 15-18 miles in steep steep terrain in turbo mode pedaling hard and using lots of juice for about 3 hours before I need to bail. But by then and riding that way I’m kinda gassed.
Thanks, another question. Did you have any observations regarding the aluminum frame versus a carbon…..I am trying to narrow down between the YT Decoy and the Commencal Meta Power SX and was wondering if you hade the chance to look at the YT. Enjoy your videos 😊
@@kevinescott8468 hey thanks! You know I haven’t been on the decoy but I can say I personally just love a metal bike. The ONLY note is when you try to grab it by the top tube, around the shock area, the metal is a little hollowed out to make space for the shock and it’s can be painful to lift the bike from there.
@@MTBJonnie thanks for the input!!
Hi thank you for the review, im buying it ! , im 6,2 too, should I go for L or XL ? What would you do ? Thank you again
Such a tough call. I think if fun is jumping around and maneuverability, go L. If fun means going as fast as you possibly can in a relatively straight line, XL.
@@MTBJonnie Thank you for your review, I bought L and I love the bike
@@felipehenriquez6334 congrats! Hard to go wrong sizing down on an ebike to be honest.
What are your thoughts on ride quality vs durability between carbon (Orbea) vs aluminum (Commencal) frame?
Im actually on alloy versions of both so it’s been apples to apples. Both feel pretty stiff so I have dialed compression back on both.
I’ve been anti e bike for a while but this video has opened my eyes. (A little haha)
You gonna throw a leg over the new Yeti SB 165 soon?
Yeah they have a demo day coming up. Won’t be a full blown review but some solid impressions on a trail I know very well.
@@MTBJonnie you doing the SG demo in Lyons or GBS in Golden?
@@toHelluRide GBs!
@@MTBJonnie did you throw a leg over the Sb 165 last weekend?
@@toHelluRide actually couldn’t make it :(
How tall are you? Nice video thanks for review this bike!!
Just shy of 6 foot 2 inches. Thanks for watching.
Ok thanks i have ordered the L. I think this bike makes lot of fun🤙
@@MTBJonnie I wonder if at 6'/183cm I could get away with a medium? Great review by the way!
Which bike, the Commencal or the Wild has the most upright position while pedaling? If only the Wild came as mullet...
Wild with mullet would be a serious contender. My wild is more stretched out but it’s also an XL. Apples to apples I think they both feel pretty upright.
@@MTBJonnie Thank you, waiting for the Wild review
Where is the charging port? Any issues with that door?
It’s a rubber cover that sort of slots itself in right above the motor. No issues so far. It is a thinner rubber so I could see it being a wear item that you may have to replace if owning the bike for a while.
Ok. I’m buying this bike based on your review so you should probably work out something with commencal. Thanks.
which color is that bike?
@@jeereB chalk
Whats the weight on this bike? I saw that the small is 55 lbs 😮
To be honest I forgot to weigh it. Felt in line with my wild which is about 54 pounds though. 50-56 or so is negotiable in my opinion though with e-bikes.
When I call Commencal they pronounce it differently than you.
All it takes is riding one once then you're sold