Why I Shouldn't Have Backed Marvel United: X-Men
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
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So....I've backed Marvel United. Both times. All in both times. I think that's crazy...and a mistake. Genuinely. This isn't some clickbait headline, I really truly believe it was the wrong call. So I'll sit here now and tell you why I made that mistake, and why I would do it again next time too.
TimeStamps:
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:01:25 - Why I'm Doing This Video
0:02:53 - $800
0:03:55 - Why I Shouldn't Have Backed It
0:08:08 - Why I Should Have Backed It
0:11:37 - Countering the Reasons to Back It
0:14:20 - So Why Did I Back It In the End?
0:20:30 - It's Only Going To Get More Difficult
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Every time I spend a lot on my hobby, I tell myself that at least it's not cocaine.
But it's cardboard crack!
Cocaine might be a cheaper hobby.
@@vindachio1 Hahaha I don't think the money is the main concern with cocaine addiction. It's the hookers.
@@vindachio1 Cocaine, once used, has 0 resale value.
Ahh see your missing out...the key to happiness is being numb to how much your spending...do you know what causes numbness? Haha
On today's episode of Alex's heart vs Alex's conscience...
I never tire of this discussion. No irony or sarcasm intended. I truly love this.
Thanks Brett :)
That’s why I like your channel. You are a good person and make videos like this. Keep up the good work. You will get to be a full time content creator one day if you keep going.
I do have to say thank you... because of your video's and Discord I can say I no longer have a KS addiction... I have yet to KS anything new since September of last year and have only KS'd 2 expansions in that time as well. Again Thank you!
Sounds like a pretty typical rationalization for addiction. I give myself that speech all the time.
Absolutely :)
Great video. You bring up good questions. I think I had more fun with board games when I had fewer games, but my motivation was different too. I bought board games to have fun playing them, I wasn’t excited about creating a collection with variety, or didn’t yet have the thrill of shopping for and buying them and anticipating their arrival, I wasn’t watching reviews and looking at board game geek. It’s got to the point that I don’t know what I like better, playing board games or looking up board game stuff on the internet. I miss being content just playing board games.
Oh well, I’ll get off the internet and go play a board game, but while I’m playing I’ll be thinking of other board games I can buy, and then I’ll be back here to youtube looking at reviews and checking BGG.
Appreciate the reflection. When I heard you talk about how you went all in I kept wondering if it’s really worth it for the shelf space it will take. With so many games coming in and out of your rotation it was hard to believe you would commit to this one of all. Well...I’m sure you can flip it without a loss
Excellent discussion. It's these videos on your channel that provide balance and deeper thinking about the hobby it self and what it means.
Love the very solid and logical conclusions you have come to about money, happiness, life and where board games fit in. A good role model in this space.
Lol man if only you listened to me! 😅😅😅 All the signs were there!
Great post, Alex! I’m surprised hasn’t been said on this topic. Keep up the great work!
Thanks :)
In general I'm always tempted to buy all expansions/promos for my games. I agree with you that sometimes having too much content actually makes you play the game less, because it makes the setup longer (and also I still need to find a time to sort all the Too Many Bones content in the trove chest). Sometimes I will simply avoid backing a KS game just because the all-in pledge costs too much, even if the base pledge is affordable.
Very well said. Thank you for sharing these thoughts and for being thoughtful. I think we all have these hobbies and interest that draw us in by the temptation of potential. A mixture of the fear of missing out and the note of the potential that could exist in doing something if only we had (insert item here), can often push us towards poor decision making. We need the occasional voice of empathetic reason to balance us out and cool our heads. Thanks for attempting to provide that.
Awesome video about balance and making sure you do the right thing for you, your family, and your financial situation. I did not find this video preachy at all. As always, stay safe and happy gaming.
Good thoughts, thanks. I have just the base game, but backed X-Men all-in and plan to cherry pick what I want to keep and sell the rest. I got the playmat but skipped the cardboard locations because I thought they'd make the game take longer to get to the table (i.e. storage). How/where do you store you cardboard locations and villain dashboards?
I truly appreciate your honesty, and your courage to admit making mistakes. This internal monologue happens in many of us, any time we see a new shiny board game on kickstarter. Listening to your discussion and rationale makes it easier to recognize my own FOMO and impulsive decisions. With such self-assessment your viewers can make a more conscious, more reasonable decision, whether to back a certain campaign or not.
An interesting discussion that ultimately comes down to the crossroads of opportunity cost and luxury goods (which games definitely are). If you can truthfully tell yourself you are happy with what you spent on your luxury and you didn't cause any financial harm to yourself, then no one can tell you your're wrong.
Thank you for this! It’s a year after you posted, and my X-Men KS choices arrived this past week. I’d already purchased the Marvel United playmat, core box, and the KS exclusive box from my local game store, and in a year, never even opened it. I was regretting **only** getting the Mutant Pledge for X-Men with Deadpool and Black Panther add-ons. But I am spending WAY too much money on things because of FOMO, rather than a true desire to play all the modes. This video helped reinforce that for me before I went and spent even MORE money hunting down boxes of characters I don’t really care about, just to have them.
Love your vids👌😁do you know if you need the core box for the classic optional expansions or will the X-men core box be allright to play them? Thx
Alex, could you plz post a list of websites where you bought these mugs? Really interested in these...
Great one, I have been thinking about this the since the kickstarter ended. I backed all in for xmen and tracked done a stretch goal box second hand. After, while adding it up, was feeling like it was a bit much! It was my first big all in. I think i could have been happy with 200 or so woth of it and quite a few other games. Lesson learned and at least I feel pretty good that I can sell off what I don't want in the future.
This was a rollercoaster of a video. I didn't quite go "all-in" for both KS but I did get all of the game content...so for me - I was going back and forth and at the end I feel like we coasted into the end of the rollercoaster. Thanks for the ride! I love your thoughts, especially at the end. If only because it helped me feel better about my purchase. ;)
Thank you for your video.
Also, I notice bullet in the background. Are u going to review it?
Hey!
I love your videos. Discovered your channel recently and followed you instantly. My wife and I recently started with board games and we love to spend time this way.
I wanted also to ask you if you might be able to make a video about Prison Architect? It's on Kickstarter right now. I love the videogame and I would like to hear your opinion.
Greetings!
Lots of great points in the video.
I've went for the the all in gameplay and I'm debating the cardboard upgrades. It is a lot of money and I really don't want to store all of it but, as of now, I fully intend to cherry pick the heroes and villians I want to keep and sell off the rest.
Hopefully I'll make enough back that the amount spent doesn't feel so high. As is its way more than I want to be invested in this game but the heroes I was most interested in were locked behind the all in pledges so that's what I went with.
Great content Alex, thank you!
Interesting video, thanks for posting. I've been struggling with this as well, as I went almost all in on this. Here are a few thoughts on why it might be worth it.. 1) Yes, you could get 15-20 other games for the same price, but I find with about 100 games, having breadth in my collection is making it harder than depth. I spent a lot of money on Kingdom Death Monster, but I have a weekly game night for KDM and have played it almost every week for the last few years. So I feel it was worth it. Yes, Marvel United does not have the depth of KDM, but with the theme and having young kids, I think I can do a weekly game night with my family and kids, so see this as my family version of KDM. As you mention, this is a game where you could actually play everything, so I'm hoping that the accessibility of the game will allow this to be a game you play over and over again with family. 2) Miniatures as kids toys, 200+ miniatures of all the marvel characters is amazing for kids. Like you, my kids just like to play with the miniatures, and when you look at the cost of LEGO or Playmobile, you add a lot of value if you see the minis as kids toys. We might wrap some of these up and use them as Birthday/Christmas presents. We are also painters, so that is a lot of minis to paint. 3) I have seen people selling individual miniatures for between 10-20 dollars each, so if you are able to sell components of your game, you could probably make a pretty good profit. I do really hate how CMON does their KSs, and I didn't get the cardboard extras, crazy how thicker card board for the game is almost the same as all the stuff you get for My Father's Work. I do remember saving for a game console that was $500 that seemed like a lot, so $800 for a lightweight game does feel insane!
@BoardGameCo You are one of my absolute favourite RUclipsr. Your love to board gaming and life is so hearth warming. Thanks.
Thank you :)
Thoughtful and sincere/real. That's what I like about your content. Thanks for discussing the things that a lot of us are thinking about every time that next new game grabs our attention. Luckily, Marvel United / X-Men isn't grabbing me!
I’ve came to a similar conclusion about a while back in regard to CMON.I’ve backed 13 of their games over the years.I did go all in with a lot of their kickstarters .But the last 4 of their kickstarters that I backed , I only backed core and maybe 1 or 2 expansions. For me in increases the chances of getting them to the table and playing all the content I back.
As you said it also means I get to try more diverse games as I have more shelf space and game time than I otherwise would have.
This for me as well. I've learned through experience that the all-in pledges are just way too much content to actually play. I started doing core and one or two carefully picked expansions or bling and I feel much better about the money spent to play-time ration.
Thoroughly enjoyed your video. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Glad you did :)
Good perspective
I Bought the retail Marvel United and backed base Marvel United XMen & 1 Expansion - though that wasn’t too far all in and would give the variety needed with the co-op, all v 1 and 2v2 modes that I’ll have access to.
Nice, going ks plus some extras is the way to go.
Thanks for the discussion, Alex. I went all-in for Marvel United then recently sold everything but the base game and cardboard locations. Got a good profit to invest back into all-in Marvel United and X-Men. I figure I didn't need to play the Marvel United expansion content now and will probably even opt for 1-wave shipping for this new campaign.
Great convo! Love the frankness and thoughtfulness.
I think an additional aspect of this conversation is the impact production of big boxes and plastic impacts the environment and your contribution to that.
It might be for you, but it isn't for me. I'm not going to question my impact on the environment because of too much Marvel United, more so than any other game or games in my collection.
I love these types of videos. I make myself to wait to back most kickstarters until the last 48 hours. This way the FOMO and all the positives have settled in my mind, the entire package with all add ons/stretch goals is revealed and any concerns can be evaluated whether based on the poor quality of the page, the campaign being run poorly, concerns of the publisher or I can evaluate reasons I may not enjoy the product. Once the shine of the cool stuff has worn off, it helps make more logical decisions. And there are definitely games that I was hyped on with kickstarter that I didnt back because I waited. It's psychologically much easier to wait to back than to remove your pledge once it's there.
Not to say that I don't spend more than I should, I have the same issue of wanting EVERYTHING when I don't need it. But I definitely could be worse at it.
Yep, I could be better and worse....it's tough.
What would you say about going only for the bases + SGs?
Thank you for a very openheartedly episode.
Weighing games against each other, Marvel United base/X-men or Freedom Five?
I don't know why.. but i always thought you were from Toronto.. was looking forward to bumping into you here.. :)
I'm from Toronto, but in Cleveland :)
@@BoardGameCo savings in $ must be so nice.
I missed the original Marvel United kickstarter but managed to back X-Men united. So far I only took the Sentinels and Apocalypse, but I was tempted to take more and maybe even go all in.
Your video actually helped me see reason, and save money so I have more to spent on different board games. So thank you for that. (Although the temptation might return once the Pledge manager goes life)
Be strong :) Even if I wasn't.
I’m only in for $100 and missed the original campaign too. I’ve been somewhat dreading the pledge manager a little because I’m not sure what I’m going to do.
So many aspects to consider, upfront cost, opportunity cost, storage, actual enjoyment from the game.
Not to forget about VAT on my end. And with so much content even in just the base pledge, I just cannot justify it to myself to get everything.
But I know that there's a good chance I might go all in in the end anyway :-(
Great video, very informative I’ve subscribed 👍
Thanks :)
I really enjoyed this video. It is very well done and makes a lot of sense. New Sub!!
Thanks Paul :)
love the honesty, and thoroughness of thought if that's a thing you can say, and honesty is one of the most important things I look for in a reviewer. By honesty I also mean that a person is not playing a role, which becomes more and more common the larger the audience gets and content creators tell themselves they are all that. Hope it didn't come off as preachy ;)
But serious..... I really like how you speak about the money issue in Kickstarter.... this is very important!
Thanks :)
That’s a lot of money for a simple game, I see it more like a collectible item, but everyone has his own tastes, I went all in with arena the contest 1.5 and Tanares adventures and I spent like 700, and I don’t regret, I just want to have it in my hands already nice video thank you for all the information
Well what is done is done. Might as well enjoy it! But I'm curious if you would consider in the future selling part of the game you don't like (heroes or modes) or if it will be a keep / sell everything.
Likely all or nothing...it's rare I get rid of expansions and not the base game.
Do you also think the same with marvel zombicide too? I also feel the same as you and that is holding me now can you review like this with marvel zombicide for us too?
Very interesting point! Thank you once again!
Always :)
Totally agree. I only have the base game and stretch goals, and I’m pretty happy with that. I might pick up Sinister 6 to add a few more villains for variety, but as tempting at it is to get other favourite characters, I’m pretty content with not over-spending and minimizing the space the game takes up.
Nice :)
This video serves as a video log for future Alex who is now making videos about DC United and the fact he probably went All In, but not All in on all add ons.
I was very lucky in that my LFGS offered to give us all the kickstarter promo options without having to pay for shipping at all, which saved a TON of money. I also didnt buy the cardboard locations, the plastic chits, nor the second vinyl mat. I saved money where I could, but my biggest issue right now is finding a place for all this stuff lol
I just noticed that Marvel United: x-men pm opened. Which 5 add-ons do you think is the most fun or essential including add-ons from first campagin or ultimate classics? :)
Oh man, I can't answer that yet...too many I haven't played.
Wow that is quite the hefty price tag. I’m just in for the base and will probably add 2-3 expansions. But I rarely go all in.
Each time I see a kickstarter from cmon .. there a alarm going off inside my wallet iiiiittt aaa ttrraaapp !! Lol
It absolutely is.
well I was trying to figure out where you got the 800 figure cause I was going to pledge for this as I just bought a all in everything from the first campaign off ebay for 390.00 flat tax shipping and payment. I had no idea they were offering it in the second campaign. I figure I lost 40 bucks sound about right? lol hope it's not more than that. I mean what kickstarter offers the KS stuff already closed in a new ks....
I backed the apocalypse pledge and two expansions for nostalgia reasons. Afterwards reason kicked in immediately and your last video on this kickstarter forged my resolve to downgrade in the pledge manager to Mutant Pledge and Blue Team expansion.
Thanks for sharing this. You have became my go to channel with quackalope and rolling solo for board games. At first I was interested by your unusual way (unusual way to me at least ;)) to apprehend games and value. I personally don't care (for now) if game holds its value or not. I have keept everything I bought till now... I probably buy less games than you though ! But you clearly stated why you care about value and it makes perfect sense to me now. I have moved from buying games from stores to backing games and yes sometimes I feel like fomo gets me. I am the kind of player who finished twice gloomhaven and still wants to play a third campaign as there are still things I haven't unlocked. I'm playing middara now and having a blast. I see mysef replaying act 1 with pleasure. This is my own rational. I can back big games with a lot of content as long as I know I'll be able to go through them, multiple times. We are only living once... I am now looking forward ISS Vanguard and wait with impatience your "review" of the prototype 2.0. This is the only way I have to project myself in playing the game. Damn, I thought I would write only a few words and look this wall of text... must be influenced by someone here...
I think it is important to know your limits and set boundaries. Giving yourself an allowance each month so you don't keep going over budget on those super expensive"all in" pledges is one option to help. I do something like this and it forces me to make some tough decisions on which games to pick each month. Also, be willing to back a game but not all the nice extras. This is one that I have a tough time with!
On the subject of family vacations, I don't think you have to spend $5000 to have a fun vacation with your family, but I will say that you only have kids at a young age in the house for a few short years, and vacations can be a really nice memory to look back on. We did a Disney world vacation a few years ago and while it was expensive, it is also a memory now that our kids keep bringing up and something we still enjoy looking at pictures of. That's going to be a cool memory for them for years and years.
Enjoy your content, keep up the good discussions!
Hey Alex, I appreciate these sorts of videos, because I think a lot about the appropriate limits to game-buying as well, though I'm a lot newer to the hobby than you are. I was able to avoid being sucked in my Marvel United because, even though I like Marvel, the lighter game-play didn't appeal to me. However, I've gone all-in on Middara and Stormsunder, so I feel your pain. :-)
Can you show us how you store the game, you said you condensed it into 3 boxes, can you show us how?
The most important thing you have in life is time. It's the most precious. Once it's gone, it's gone, you cannot buy more. That means time should be spend to get the most fun/joy/quality out of it. So buying a game you won't be playing is a game that you shouldn't have bought. And even if you do play the game, there is an opportunity cost, because you're not playing a differnet game at the same time.
I've bought my fair share of Kickstarters, but nowadays I tend to focus mostly on cutting my collection and only getting what I really want to play, selling off what I don't want/need/etc. And if I did mis out on a game, I'll just get it on the second hand market.
Time is the most valuable, no question.
did you use any storage solution or dump every miniature in the boxes?
Dump all the minis.
@@BoardGameCo thanks 😁
Great video. I went all in on marvel when I probably shouldn’t but man I just love it, it sparks joy I guess. And I always budget, so my entertainment budget took a hit, but that’s what it’s there for.
I am struggling with this right now. I love the IP and I’m trying to decide if I am going to late pledge X-men with possibly all in + 1st season. It’s expensive and it seems unnecessarily expensive. I just bought the original base recently and yes it’s fun and light. And I’m really drawn into it. I just wish there were like half the expansions that currently exist.
Love the deep nuanced conversation! Thanks Alex
Always :)
I'm planning on painting everything. The amount of fun and time that part of this hobby is giving me makes my choice to back everything sit better with me.
Oh man, I wish I had the time :)
I had shoulder surgery in September so I'm still healing up. Probably out of work until about march. Time is all I have man lo l
This was a great video Alex! I have the same discussion/arguments with my self with a lot of KS games. I have some of the same counter points, as I'm fortunate to have a solid and steady job that allows me to set money aside (all done though my employer so I never actually see it come and go which is helpful). Like you, board games are my main "splurge" hobby.
I'm also lucky that my son who is my main gaming partner, is very level headed (especially for a 12 year old). For example, he wants United as much as I do (or more) but even he acknowledges we don't need it all. Our current stance is that we will consider United X-Men, and if we can sell some games we're not playing, we may put the funds towards the original content as we are big Marvel fans and would love to paint the minis.
Anyways, the TL:DR is that I think this was a great video with some very great talking points, and I share a lot of your thoughts on it as a whole.
Honestly, a huge reason for me to back this is because I love hand-painting the miniatures. I missed the first go around of MU, so I picked up around $200 worth of stuff this time. Base pledge + 4 expansions. These “all-in” pledges seem excessive.
That's just reasonable :)
Hey Alex, not preachy at all, at least from my view. That's a very nice discussion, one of which I've been having with friends recently. And you've actually helped me decide on how much I want to go in with the X-Men Kickstarter, and I'm still on the fence about the Witcher one, I think I might not go Deluxe after this. Thank you a ton, and great job on keeping up the awesome content!
interested to hear your thoughts about bullet
Coming soon :) Got a whole bunch of plays in :)
I've never spend more than $40 on a board game and I'm very happy with my collection.
That's awesome :)
This was very interesting and enjoyable. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed :)
I do feel like the $800 is a bit misleading. Gameplay all in for both (assuming you bought the first KS) is $485. Throw in $65 for shipping to keep it a round number and you’re at $550. Still excessively high? Sure. The bigger issue I would have is spending $250 on tokens/playmates/cardboard (to be honest I’m struggling to even get to this $800 figure)
Me: that is a pretty click baity title
You: In part it's because it is click bait.
At least you're self aware. Love your content.
Thanks :)
Love your videos!
X-Men was one of my favorite comics when I was a child. I was going to stick with the $100 pledge, then they threw in Fantastic Four, which was my favorite comic back then. The combination rendered me powerless. I've decided that even though I have no interest in the Deadpool expansion, it would be silly to leave it out of my collection. So, for all the reasons Alex gave that it was a bad idea for him, I think my judgement is even worse.
Lol makes sense..that's how they get you.
Well, you could have asked for a partial refund. Anyway , nice video as always and I’m eager to see what you think about the Witcher board game 😉. I’m pretty hyped about that one but not entirely convinced about the gameplay.
So with all of that being said, which two expansions/add-ons for the X-Men run do you suggest?
My guess? Playmat and either blue or gold team. (with basic/mutant pledge)
Best value for money IMO.
@@Elkerlyc I don't have the other marvel game. So I wasn't sure the playmate was a must. The blue and gold ones add a special feature to the game, correct?
@@frioevie The playmat is pure luxury but one I'd not want to miss.
The 'Blue team' and 'Gold team' expansions add 'team play' into the mix.
Note that you only need one of these 2 boxes.
@@Elkerlyc good to know! Thanks for the suggestions!
Daily reminder of Black Rose Wars siting on your shelf waiting for you :D
Played it ;)
@@BoardGameCo can't wait for a review than!
Well said, very good guidelines for people to consider when spending this kind of money on a game. Backed All-In Gameplay content, definitely didn't NEED to, but I'm enjoying the gameplay with my family and the quality time my wife and I have painting. But that's all relative and each person can have their reason for why they backed what they did.
Great conversation btw very good points about life in general
Thanks :)
The most painful thing for me is going to be figuring out how to organise the original one before all this new stuff comes… so many boxes man
Great video! One more CON: space occupation for one single game - 6 boxes for one single game
Lol yep
Great discussion. In the end I went all-in twice as well, and justified it on a couple different fronts 1) split it with buddy of mine, game is clearly big enough with all the expansions that you can share the game with another, and rotate expansions back and forth, and thus split the cost and 2) with younger kids and family, I'm actually excited about the lightness of the game, that will likely hit the table easier, and with more frequency than many of the heavier weight games that I can only play with certain gamers, meaning they tend to never come off the shelf. Yes, you'd typically think of a game this expensive on KS as this huge, complex immersive game, but just because it's lighter, doesn't mean it's bad, just viable for more types of gamers.
Another reason to back is if you see the potential in the miniatures and can expanded upon their use
Eg paint them
Use them in other games
Like hero quest or d&d adventure (your players find their way into the marvel universe and these are npc’s) or chess just get 3d bases to clip on the base that say things like queen rook pawn ect and a board you’re good to go
Yep, that's fair. Multi use is always nice.
You are hilarious/measured/clever and very open, a legend mate... Great vid!
Thank you sir :)
Interesting video. I was going to get a late pledge for Xmen but I think you have talked me out of it.
Nice :)
You don't need to spend $800. But if you think you'll get enjoyment out of the base pledge, then that will give a ton of gameplay for a fairly reasonable price. I backed at $1 and will be getting the core pledge with its ridiculous amount of stretch goals and that's it. That's $65 plus shipping for a crazy amount of content compared to retail. The trick with CMON campaigns is to consider if you're actually going to play all the expansion content. If not, the base pledge is a ridiculous amount of value.
@@BoardGameCo I was sat on the fence at the what i wanted would have been around $200 plus VAT and uk shipping. I do like most cmon games but it's the IP that's the draw in this not the game.
That much content is not as hard to get to for light games like MArvel United.
Storage is tough, u got me there.
As long as I stay in budget the money doesn't matter, just the joy it brings.
So.....are you downgrading your pledge or dropping out when the PM opens? If they make a 3rd...are you 100% out? CMON loves to do projects in 3s.
True you could get a lot of other games for the money.
I went in for about half ($400)ish... And so far no regret. Especially knowing a lot.of it can be sold after I'm done with it.
You got me on the fence about those plastic tokens.
Oh I'm all in with no regrets...but I shouldn't be :)
I know I'm doing it wrong, but how are you averaging less than $50 for new games? Even buying used games, I average out to over $50 when including the shipping cost. Or are half of the games in your average cost mass market, card games, and roll and writes?
I got the X-men base and 2 expansion. Fantastic four and the Blue Team. I only have the base Marvel United from Walmart. Played it, liked it and backed just a few.
I’m just like you! I’m very picky about anything I buy game wise because once I start I must complete the set whether I play all of it. I must have all the content.
But a counter point, you can’t take your money to the grave so have fun with it in a reasonable fashion.
Great video showing your thought process and general take on your 'mistake'
@BoardGameCo I see Iwari, how do you like that game?
I'll let you know when I play it :)
You know, I almost went all in on the X-men Kickstarter and added the original Kickstarter stuff and ultimately I decided that the 65 dollar pledge plus fantastic 4 (because I love fantastic 4) plus the mat was plenty. I feel like you get so much in the Kickstarter just from stretch goals. The price was so astronomical for this Kickstarter that despite wanting everything, I couldn’t justify it.
Nice, money saved :)
I've noticed a large part of the board game community seems to have an addiction to buying every new game. Especially if it's on a crowdfunding platform for a ludicrous price and offers exclusives to entice susceptible personalities. It's basically turned into a huge casino at this point. It's kind of sad to see, but I can't tell people how to spend their money.
I see it too. Im growing tired of the hobby in general because of it.
I hope kickstarter up and dies.
Yeah I know people who has staggering credit card debt due to board games.
That's less than I'm down on Arkham Horror LCG. Stop looking at me like that!
Lol yep, there are many systems we can spend money on :)
Tangential question (since you referenced weight loss multiple times): during which video series did you intend to keep regularly reporting your weight loss progress? (and did you mean to enlist our help to keep you accountable - i.e. do you actually want us to call it out if you forget to mention it when you are "supposed" to?)
You have to play that all-in 160 times to get down to $5 a play.
Time to get started then
Ie, if you played this game 160 times but DIDN'T get the cardboard replacements, tokens, or playmat, the price would be 3.20 $ about. Worth the savings? *Contemplates*
Personally, I backed this at the Mutant Pledge and added the Fantastic Four expansion. As much as I REALLY wanted the Blue Team and Days of Future Past expansions, the F4 felt like a natural add-on for the base game I currently own, thereby increasing the usefulness of the content, and because I don't know if and when the Spiderverse expansion will be at retail. Outside of budget, I also had to ask myself WHO will I be playing the game with and if I wanted to complicate it with various challenges that would be unappealing for them even if they would be fun for myself. Also, while I'm excited that CMON gave us the X-Force expansion in the Mutant pledge, I'm definitely glad I took the step back and evaluate it as I did before giving in to FOMO anxiety.
All content is crossed ove to the other. So all content for me was a no brained. Also I love painting the minis.
I love marvel united for the game, I've only not played the Thanos Campaign off camera, I've used everyone else including spider ham, but on camera I'm slowly going through everything, and I mainly play solo, my son has stopped enjoying it. Now I've gone all in on the gameplay of X-men, I dont need the extras, but I've got to pay 60 quid plus extra on the campaign because of UK taxes on a game that I only wanted for the core box and expansions, the stretch goal really did nothing for me outside of the villains, I literally knew only 1 or 2 of those heroes and so I could potentially look to sell those on, but whilst I look at zombicide 2nd edition that I've found boring after 4 playthroughs, I do wonder if I have done the right thing in going all in on both marvel united's.
I bought the base game retail and only later found out that I had missed the classic kickstarter. I am backing xmen at base because I love Xmen but don’t feel the need to get all of the expacs for it - base is plenty of good stuff. I am, however, doing the classic all-in bundle because I like a lot more of those characters more. I’m also going in for a mat. That’s still expensive but it’s worth it to me for a simple and easy game with a fairly enduring fun theme in our time.