HEMI Tick sound / noise. Lifter or Exhaust?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This is one of the most common issues with the 5.7 Hemi Ram engines. Over time the heat cycling and expansion and contraction of the head and manifold cause the bolts to break. This typically causes an exhaust leak that is more noticeable when the vehicle is cold and will gradually fade away as the engine reaches temperature.
If your Hemi RAM truck is making a ticking noise you can easily determine whether or not it is exhaust related by checking the manifold bolts as shown in this video.
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Your video saved me form lifter valve replacement, Thanks for sharing
Awesome I'm glad it helped!
Mine sounded exactly the same, and went away when warm. I had 4 broken studs and a bad gasket on the passenger side. Replaced gaskets on both sides and new studs installed. No more tick!
Yep that's typical. Usually once the manifolds heat up they expand and close the gap where the exhaust leak is. That's why so many of them only make noise when cold.
And how much do you spend in the?
@@lubricante6960 mine was all covered under power train warranty. I spent $0
@@nanciebrowning3911 Hi - Was the manifold itself replaced ?
Was the manifold replaced?
I have 2016 with 71,300 miles and that noise start week ago thank you so much. Blessings
66k miles for me 😢
Same
84k
Thank you, Chris! 2019 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi. Ticking on startup and went away after the truck warmed up. Whattayaknow! Just like you said: Broken exhaust manifold bolts. This sounds like it should be a recall. But because it's not a safety issue, it probably won't be recalled. Thanks again for posting! :)
I bought a new 2022 Dodge Challenger R/T 5.7L Hemi June 2022 - my husband and I spent 10 years saving for our dream car. I noticed there was a ticking noise form the engine which I thought was the "HEMI tick." It was a slight ticking noise at cold start coming from the passenger side and then after a few seconds it would stop ticking.
In August, 2022, we had put 2000 miles on the car and we were on a weekend road trip.
The engine started to make loud noises and started shaking. Then the engine and electrical light turned. Then suddenly, the motor stalled and shut off while in motion on the highway going 80 mph!!!! 😳 😱 🤬
My husband had to drive by using strange maneuvers, putting in N with brakes and pumping the gas, when it idled it would shut off. Had to do this all the way to the dealer since the tow truck would have been late by an hour and the service department would have been closed.
The dealer said it was a cylinder 5 misfire - which ended up a valve dropping and cracking the cylinder - they had to change the long block and the intake manifold, which they are still waiting for parts.
One of the techs insinuated it was the MDS system that closes 4 valves at highway speed to reduce fuel consumption.
Till this date, the car is still at the dealer, which is an hour away from our house.
I found out there is a class action lawsuit against FCA due to the 5.7 and 6.4 HEMI that are not supercharged, having issues with the MDS engines stalling issues which report from NHTSA of the same thing happening to people on the highway, which is a huge safety issue, especially while driving at highway speeds.
I didn’t know about the Class Action because it wasn’t showing up on the Internet until late June once a complaint was filed. If I would’ve known I would’ve not purchased a car.
This is my daily driver and my husband and I are seriously scared for my safety. Dodge doesn't want to do a buyback and I am having to get an attorney involved because it is not reasonable a new car has these issues.
This got nothin to do with the video😂
Same noise. Mine is a ram 2018 with the 5.7 hemi. From dudes I hear it's either an exhaust manifold gasket, or others say it's piston slap from 'bad lifters'. This is helpful, as I want to be more educated before I take it to an independent mechanic. I'd never take it to a dealer. Just far too expensive
This is exactly what happened to my 5.7 Hemi in my Jeep Grand Cherokee…so I attest to your video! Thanks!
Thank you for explaining it clearly exactly what I have been looking everywhere for a simple explanation
Thanks for this! I knew someone smarter than me had already figured this out.
Yup, exactly how mine has sounded for 5 years. Mines a 2011, 2 years after I bought it, it started.
Had it in for repairs, 500 later, it still tic tic.
Should be a recall!!!
problem is that if you re-used your stock manifolds without sending them to get resurfaced flat or bought a new set.
They'll never recall something like that. Even though they should. They usually only recall safety shit
Thank you! I've been trying to figure that noise out forever.
Me and you both I have a 2012 Dodge Ram I’ve been trying to figure it out for the longest
My 22 1500 sat for 2 months, went to turn it over yesterday - and immediately an identical tick was present.
Only 22k on the engine.
Unfortunately I have to drive it 155 miles to a location where I can inspect it - but I’m definitely doubt this first to make sure.
Thank you!
The lifter tick is a real issue, it is only a matter of time until the roller lifters fail and wipe out the CAM shaft and send a bunch of metal into the rest of the engine. This is fixable, you will have to replace all the lifters and the CAM shaft.
I just got an 08 Ram 1500 hemi 5.7 I heard the noise as I was driving it for a test run. As I drove the noise got a little lower. So I had both sides of the manifolds replace turns out that both sides had broken bolts. But when I drive it after it still had tapping noise but only a couple mins after being turned on than it goes away.. it’s so frustrating 😞 it definitely sounds a lot better tho
Did it give you any more issues?
@@elrm6919 as far as the hemi tick that was fixed it turns out that it a lifter. But as mentioned after it idles for a 5 mins it goes away. Unfortunately pretty normal for the hemi. I’ll worry late ha
@dominus2361 alright maybe that's not my issue, I have a 2015 Chrysler 300s it has a small ticking noise all the time it don't matter if its cold or hot, it's not too loud but I know it's there lol hopefully I'm just panicking
@@elrm6919 are you sure it’s not the manifolds? What you should do is turn your car on and check the driver and passenger side steer tires to see if you can hear it louder on one side
lol my heat shield is completely loose. bad?
I have a 2014 Dodge Journey and had the ticking noise. I was told it was the lifters and to use MARVEL MYSTERY Oil $10.97 Fix from Walmart . I added 1 1/4 cup of the MARVEL MYSTERY Oil to the engine oil every five thousand km (Canadian mileage). I add the MARVEL MYSTERY Oil three times at the five thousand km mark and on the time adding it the ticking noise stopped.
Lifters definitely bc the thicker oil made it quiet
THANK YOU! This is exactly what was wrong!
You should replace the manifold as well due to it warping the mating surface, max tolerance is .008" of warping.
I'd replace with an aftermarket shorty header
Chrysler also makes updated hardware thats less susceptible to breaking as easily. Thinner manifolds and upgraded hardware would definitely be a long term fix
Machine manifold flat, or use a belt sander. That's what I did. 80 gritt and grind it flat. Used oem bolts. Shouldn't have any issues, the manifold should not warp again. The warping is what snaps the bolts is my guess... I also used ez out for broken stud. No issue, a left hand drill bit should work better. I had issue with drilling bolt down further trying to predrilled for ez out
I've flattened several and finished with a hand file and a straight edge.
How much would the repair cost?
Got this noise randomly on my Chrysler srt8 06 after filling up gas drive for about 10 min once I was at at stop light my car idled rough for like 3 seconds then boom loud clicks ever since. No check engine so far but noise making me go crazy gonna get it checked out later this week. It’s loud at idle but when I’m cruising it’s not that noticeable till I slow down. Hoping for the best really
Got long tube headers with straight pipe as well
same thing happened to me any updates on what you did?
Any updates? 06 srt8 cjarger started exaxtly how you mentioned. Any advice would be appreciated.
@@tattoofr3ak210 it’s probably his lifters, I have the exhaust bolt issue which goes away after a few minutes of driving.
It seems to always be the lifters when the sound is always there.
Dodge Neon and Dodge Caravan both have that stupid tick. Sounds exactly like that too. Not louder with higher RPM but louder with cold.
Great Video 5***** THANKS!
Hell ya that's what's wrong with my truck. I thought it had bad lifters at first but after crawling underneath, the heat shield is indeed loose on the passenger side. I only saw 1 broken stud and it looks like I won't have to use a welder or EZ Out. I feel so lucky.
taking mine in for inspection 😂 let’s hope it’s not the camshaft and lifters…. then again i got a cylinder 5 misfire on hard acceleration…. so it’s probably the lifters and cam 🫠
@@FlamingArrow444 It’s the lifters because they’re defective
@@gokuthatmadethebeat yup lifters we’re destroyed and it wiped the cam…. it looked horrible
This is exactly how mine sounds
It's so common that almost every Hemi Ram I come across has this same issue. I'm kinda surprised it hasn't turned into a full blown recall because of how common it is.
Very common. Probably one of the most posted subjects on Ram forums.
This happened on mine twice. Why don’t they just put in stronger bolts
I own a 04 exhaust makes that noise has 221,000 miles and goin same as it did in 2005
Gr8 video brother helped me alot
Damn so is that all it could be? I thought it was the transmission going bad since the sound is similar to what was going on when I started my 2013 Sentra. The clicking also happens during acceleration even after the initial clicking has passed. How much would this repair run me at a shop?
My jeep GC with hemi 5.7 sounds EXACTLY as this one and does exactly the same, nosie when I start the engine, then goes away, More if is cold. Sometimes doesnt even do the sound.
But I'm traveling and local mechanic here in colorado said that was the lifters. So Now I will try to see if I can get to the bolts of the exhaust and check by myself. Since again it sounds EXACTLY as the one on this video. They want to charge me 3500 U$ for the complete replace of lifters and camshaft. Which is somehow aceptable for the work on it.
Thanks for sharing the video.
I would do the same as you and try to verify if it's an exhaust leak or lifter noise. It can be tricky sometimes as the two sound very similar.
But if you listen under the hood very close when you hear the sound you should be able to tell the difference. The lifter noise would be more of a metallic tapping noise that sounds like metal tapping together lightly.
The exhaust leak sounds more like air being released than metal on metal contact. If you listen very close you may be able to tell the difference under the hood.
It is very common for lifters to fail on these engines. I see it quite a bit... But you have to make sure that's the problem before throwing that kinda money into it.
Guest what? Ended up exhaust leak. I out a new exhaust manifold. Gasket and it had 3 broken bolts. Fixed.
@@koryyyy Awesome! Glad you got it fixed!
I don’t know if you’ll see this comment but did replacing the bolts fix the problem? I noticed the sound and it will even go away after idling a bit so I assumed it was an exhaust thing or something since it goes away when “warm”. I like to fix what I can myself so just curious
Minus well just get shorty headers ? And fix everything all at once lol
I have a 2019 ram 1500 big horn. Would make this sound. I took it to an exhaust repair shop, they called said its the upper end not the exhaust. Drove a block away to ram dealer tech said exhaust manifold for sure. I think monro wanted to rip me off or didnt want to do the job. Thurs the dealer will repair it and said be 700 to 1400 depend if both sides needs it.
Anybody that changes them gaskets .... VERY IMPORTANT !!! Check the manifold surface with a straightedge , you will notice most times they are either WARPED of just a crappy casting ... for a couple bucks , have them machined and make them true .... if not , the tick will return within time !! :-( might as well do it properly the first time and never touch it again
Did that fix it? Is there a part 2 to head the difference?
How painful and long does it take it to remove the broken manifold bolts?
Really that depends on how deep they are broken off and your skill level. The best way to extract the broken bolts is to weld a nut onto them but you have to be very careful. There are other videos showing how this is done. It's about 5-6 hours to get it all apart, extract the bolts and reinstall everything.
Just buy an easy out kit...
@@ChrisVaughnTechFor one side or both? Chrysler warranty only pays the tech 1.7 to fix 1 side.
How much would a customer pay for this job@@ChrisVaughnTech
I have an 2012 Laramie 5.7. But I have no heat shield and I still have that noise on my passenger side. It does quiet down after warming up tho. So would it most likely be a exhaust leak.
Please let me know same with me !
I found out that I had two broken stud factory bolts. So I replaced them with after market long tube headers. Fixed it n upgraded at the same time
That is not the Hemi tick, my god lol. The common tick that is present constantly on some motors can be resolved by using Royal Purple synthetic. My 05 Ram had a constant light tap with every other oil and as soon as i switched to Royal Purple from Moblie 1 the tap disappeared
Funny, I have this in my 2017 Ram and my neighbor has it in his 2018 Ram. Only happens at startup and usually goes away after a minute.
My 2014 Ram 1500 3.7L v6 had a pancaked lifter, and needed a new rocker arm.
Did your check engine light turn on?
What’s the repercussions with not fixing this right away? And how much would it cost out of pocket to fix?
Mines been making the noise for 5 years. Truck still runs the exact same as 5 years ago
I have the same noise in my Durango 2012 , it went away when warm , and some time it comes back while driving with my leg on gas paddle
Seems like something Chrysler could easily fix but here we are.
Had my passenger side replaced. Still ticking. So I looked at my driver side and non of the bolts are broken. I took a wrench to them. Could it be cracked? Sounds the exact same
Exhaust or oil not getting to the lifters? Nobody really seems to know
Does it make noise, while driving too ???
Badass😊
I have a 2016 with 66,000 rt charger but it only ticks when I’m driving it if it’s parked or I stop it sound goes away but moving I hear it sometimes
Did this cause you lean or rich system??
In some cases it can cause lean or rich codes due to O2 sensors getting incorrect readings.
I bought a used 2004 f150 sounds like a manifold leak ; engine light came on with a lean and a rich code I'm wondering if it can be due to the leak
Exactly what mine does. Should the header gasket be replaced or just new bolts?
I repaired mine with new bolts. Gasket was good still.
Hey I have a Dodge Ram 2007 at first it would over heat and it just kept turning off and the sound was awful of the truck like a loud thump sound w a blinking transmission light and now it will just start ticking loud and then it would turn off bcs the transmission light is blinking with smoke?
unfortunately my ticking doesnt go away after warm up. good thing its warranty-able, bad news, the dealer is telling me they dont hear the noise... gtfoh.
Typical dealer experience
Why wouldn’t this be considered a manufacturing defect? It’s clearly cheap bolts, that should be covered by the maker.
Because it isn't in enough of the vehicles, they say.
But did it solve the problem? I have the same sound. Why would it stop when it gets warm?
The heat when the engine warms up causing the sound to go away after startup
Are yall in Summerville south carolina?
Nope. Located in FL
@@ChrisVaughnTechdamn there is an LS motorsports right in my city good thing I asked. Lol
Manifold broke studs. But now mine has the real liftr tick. Guess I'll do a mds delete
I have the same noise with hemi 5.7 but in dodge charger I hope that problem is
Was it that noise?
I replaced the lifters but I still hear ticking
Its not that noticeable when it turns on but when it gets warm you can hear it louder
Ever figure this out? I’m having same issue with my 5.7 hemi
Same problem here
@@GerardoGarcia-tr8so same here
Same here
I was told it was the lifters and cam but they’re not even 100 percent sure yet
@@tvt3331any updates man I was told the same thing
Mine do it when it's warmed up, and cammed with hellcat lifters
I work a few hrs from home can i drive it back home if my truck started to tick like this?
If you are sure it's the exhaust manifold making the noise then yes you can drive it safely. If however it is a lifter tap then driving it like that can do further damage.
@@ChrisVaughnTech thank u sir¡ il make sure ,... im 4 hrs from home so kind of worried ✌
@@penguinc2653 keep an eye on the noise while you are driving and at any stops. If it's a lifter then it will get worse over time. If it's the exhaust then it should quiet down as it gets warmer
So, I still have this noise on cold start. Manifold bolts have been replaced. Lifters and cam have been replaced. Any other ideas maybe?
Check the manifold to collector pipe flange gasket maybe
This sounds like my issue. Have a similar tick on cold start ups. But why if it's bolts does it stop after running for roughly 10-15 seconds?
Perhaps the bolts expand slightly after warming up?
I had the same thing and on a newer Ram 5.7. I was told its due to inadequate oil flow to the top end on cold starts. I changed to a low viscosity and it helped but it didn't solve the problem. My manifold bolts were fine as the truck was new. It was a top end tick that never went completely away.
Did the tick get faster with acceleration?
Mine does
Did you guys ever find out what it was? Mine does the same thing with acceleration
My 5th gen ram ticks only when it warms up but it’s not this bad
My 4th gen is ticking at normal temps on idle.. It actually doesn't sound as bad as I've heard other RAM trucks literally sounding like tin cans going down the road.
I've given up on finding out what exactly is ticking, if it fails.. it fails. It's a 2013.
Holy shit mine was missing a bolt lmao I could lift half off damn near
My dam kia is doing this crap. I am gonna take it to a muffler shop to see if they can fix it.
I have an 05 grand cherokee limited with 5.7 mine does a ticking noise also but mine doesn’t go away and when I accelerate the ticking gets faster, what can it be?
Did you ever figure that out?? I also have a 05 cherokee 5.7 and noticed the same thing and cant figure it out..
@@ericheisler272 I was told it was lifters bro, mine stopped accelerating it would turn on but wouldn’t accelerate so I sold it
Mine sounds the same, but when I rev the engine and the RPMs increase, the tick also accelerates in speed, if that makes sense
Probably the hydraulic oil lifters. If it’s fairly rhythmic and only on cold start, most likely culprit.
any updates bro? Mine does the same thing also
Did you find anything mine does the same thing I think it might be a lifter
@@jesusmane1304 I was told it’s the lifters and might need to replace the cam also
Garbage cheap manifolds manufacturers gotta get their shit together with em. Bolts rust and they break the bolts are small too is main reason why they become brittle
I replaced the passenger manifold and bolts already once with oem. And the damn thing broke again. Why isn't this a recall? How do we make it a recall?
Unfortunately they are just bad parts prone to failure. Best thing to do is get a set of ARP exhaust bolts and a set of shorty aftermarket headers and never mess with it again
@@ChrisVaughnTech can the ARP bolts be used with stock cast iron exhaust manifold? Will the ARP hold up longer with the cast iron than the standard replacement bolts? 2014 Ram 1500 69k. If I'm keeping the truck for a while I really don't want to do this fix again down the road.
Dam bro dodge freaking sucks for this, kinda reminds me of the early Gen Cadillac Northstar engine
This is BS !! I got 119,000 miles and just had to put a new motor in it$7000 later 🤬🤬 lost a thirty year customer. At first we thought that it was just the broken bolts. But then a bearing went out.
I know exactly how u feel had a lifter failure cost 3k still hear the tick even when running warm
Garbage exhaust manifolds on hemi rams absolute JUNK one thing I hate about the engine
So, my manifold looks like the rear half was completely rusted off. Is this a situation that would require an immediate repair, since its just the exhaust? Or would i be ok to drive this for a while? I made an appt with repair shop but they cannot fit me in for 2 weeks🫤
My ford had that tick lol
Most likey cam phaser on Ford
The dodge shop charged me 900.00 to fix and a year later it did it again. POS
I have an 2012 Laramie 5.7. But I have no heat shield and I still have that noise on my passenger side. It does quiet down after warming up tho. So would it most likely be a exhaust leak.
Will this cause a check engine light?
No