@@jessejive1174 lol "kiddo" is always ironically used by little kids who think they're so wise and smart xD and nothing I said was wrong. both games were improvements to the terrible ice rink physics of TM1&2. Cope harder Jaffe meat rider
Big thanks for interview with devs of TM3 and especially with TM4 (TM4 is my favorite Twisted Metal game 😍). Devs have answer why Sweet Tooth don't have voice in TM4?) p.s: I'm always think about physics in TM4 and that feels like this game can have additional mechanics for tricks like in GTA. TM3 really have alot of cons but also have one of the best soundtrack in series. I like TM4 story because in this game players get answers for some interesting questions about Calypso and his power. Sweet Tooth's flaming hair also real have sense in TM4. Cons of TM4 is no Twister, bad optimization for 4P mode and would be cool if car editor can be a more rich. In gameplay part game is perfect, nice FX, great OST, nice graphics and more completed energy system. Only difficulty is not too high (but thats already fixed in mod).
I love Twisted Metal 3 and totally think it deserves the title. I do keep coming back to it often because I like the pace, physics, and replayability. ~Firestarter main
Im in that same boat. I played TM3 first was able to beat it multiple times. Im thinking I also enjoyed it because I enjoyed the rallycross titles and physics they hadbased it off of? I later recieved a long box copy of Twisted Metal 2 (my brother later traded it in at a gamestore like a dummy) but I liked that as well. But TM3 and 4 have that nostalgia. As well as a viper(spectre) and civic ( pizza boy)😂😂😂😂
Still gotta disagree. While I had fun with my cousin introducing me to this game. Twisted metal 1 and 2 will always be my go to next to Black. Tm 3 lacked a lot of detail that was missing that only the first 2 games had. Besides the game was rushed. Club kid is definitely one of the reasons why I even go back to tm3. The level design is so boring and whoever picked the soundtrack, boy were they obsessed with Pitchshifter, alot...... They didn't even bother making original tracks for the levels. Tm 4 had a better variety of music compared to 3. Even to the level design.
I've always enjoyed TM3, I never listened to the backlash it got. I rented it a few times, had a friend copy the disc to a red Memorex Cool Colors CD-R, and I still have it today. I mastered the PS1 swap trick, but after awhile I got a Gold Finger cheat cartridge, that went into the port on the back. Besides that, and the music not working (I always blasted my own music while playing), I had a very good time with TM3. :)
Same here, I don't really know why tho, maybe it's because it was my first Twisted Metal game and I used to play it with my cousin and my friends, IMO the character designs and weapons were the most iconic of all ps1 games and I just had a blast with it, I didn't mind the floaty physics that much because the fun I was having pretty much made me not even notice that... I always found TM1 & 2 very rough on the edges (specially the ramming damage & physics, sometimes it was absurd), I enjoyed TM2 but not nearly as much as TM3, the locations and maps were way more iconic in TM2 but besides that I preferred everything else in TM3 (and I never got to play TM4 until a few years ago, which fixed many of the issues of the 3rd game but it's not as iconic IMO)...
love these videos! especially the Q&A with Dev ones.. and thank Jim Buck for all he's done. Not only do I like, but really preferred his and his colleagues' take with TM III and 4. If only they had been allowed more development time for both 3 and 4. And I agree that a blend of the perks of these 2 games would be absolute dream to this day.
25:11 - I can confirm with some experimentation that that is exactly how the AI works in TM1 and TM2. They rely on the player being within an arc of the front or rear of their vehicles. The only reason the rolling demo in TM2 appears to have AI cars attacking one another is because the AI are being staged with a motionless player target hidden off-camera and tucked away close enough for the AI to fire blindly.
I grew up playing TM3 & 4 and loved them then, still play them now. The hate they get is largely performative as TM1 & TM2's flaws are now well-known amongst the community, and there's a lot of cognitive dissonance about it lol.
tw3 will still forever be one of my childhood favorites. and to find out it was only made because of my other all time favorite car combat game V8? just wow. personally im saddened that TM overshadowed V8 as V8, to me at least, is a superior game. especially with the improvements made in V8 second offense.
At the end of the day tm3 and tm4 are both full of content and you get what you pay for. It is a complete game and thats saying something in this day and age
Twisted Metal 4 is my goat for these games. I just keep going back to it. Mostly cause I wanna be the best soeedrunner lmao. I'm glad V8 and TM3 and 4 are so intertwined since my partner grew up with Interstate 76 and I grew up with Twisted Metal. This is a great interview.
Tm3 is the first one I ever played, saw or knew about then tm4. So I have love for both of them. I think tm2 is better but tm3 and 4 are so much fun too especially split screen with your friends
It looks like some sequels of that time were screwed because of the differences between the developers and the Big ones, the same happened to Diablo, Diablo I and II were made by Blizzard, but after differences Diablo III was made by a totally different team. So now we know why TM 3 is so different and looks more like Vigilante 8 than to originals Twisted Metal.
Twisted Metal 3 was my favorite of the OG trilogy. Maybe it is because it was the first one I had played. I thought the soundtrack, characters, maps, and bosses were so cool other than a few.... was so great at the time to me
14:47 what he is talking about here is something that I have been dreaming about for years...Graphical remasters, and I would be happy with just getting it for TM 1 and 2! but it would be awesome for the others as well. Imagine a game that played like TM2 but looked like TM2012...that's my dream right there
Ill pick TM3 over TM1 anytime... The music is cool and the gameplay is fun. The physics and the maps sucks (except London maybe). On my 8th birthday my cake had an edible art cover of TM3 on top.
@@JimBuckhi Jim Buck 👋!! Also, I'm surprised the reason wasn't that it was a copy design from TM2, which also had minion and sweet tooth code-locked the same way.
I mean, I was the physics programmer, so I *think* that was the reason.. it was the reason for Darkside and Primeval.. they were too big and easy to get caught up on corners of things.
@JimBuck If you would have told 7 year old me that a lead dev on the first game I played in one of my favorite series of all time would reply to me. I would scream. Thanks for the nostalgia. 😊
Honestly if Sony gave more talent a chance to soft reboot some of their amazing classics we would have great games again if they don’t follow the new trend of release now fix later
Twist metal 3 is in my top 3 games of twist a metal. It's probably number 2 if it wasn't so flat it probably number one. I akso love the physics. I know a lot of people hate on them but they drive like" real" cars. All other games in a series drive like the world is made of ice. But I Am also a Race car game lover...
@@JimBuck that’s awesome I’ll check it out! RallyCross is one of my favorite ps1 titles. Would love to see you get to work on a new Twisted Metal. Maybe you and Goodrich could twist some arms 🤣.
Ahh, more and more people heard of Rally Cross; this is cool since it's still my favorite game to have worked on. :) As for getting on a new TM project, I have no "juice" for arm-twisting Sony, unfortunately. I haven't worked there in 19 years. That said, I would totally work on such a project.
@@JimBuckI never played rally cross which was the origin of the TM 3 physics engine but one question I have always had was, in what way was the functionality of the engine altered to accommodate a car combat style game? Was that a challenge early on in development in a way that kind of hampered your teams gradual vision of the game as it was finally coming together? I've found things like this interesting, as often times the physics engine allocated can really be a Boon or Bane to certain projects. One recent example is Ubisofts decision to give the F2P shooter XDefiant an engine that was specifically made for an MMORPG which has been a huge ongoing challenge for the team since release.
I had already known about tm but my cousin had tm 3 when it came out and we would play co op. Playing it as a kid it felt fun but playing it as a adult. The level design was pretty bland. I loved the car design but the physics felt so weird compared to tm2 and 1. They removed a lot of small details such as the cars being on fire. Tm 1 the cars would actually stay, while in tm 2 the cars would explode without disappearing if you ram them or if you use freeze and machine guns. The cars then explode after a while giving the effect the cars on fire still. Tm 3 and 4 was missing this. Its still my second least favorite while Brawl is my least favorite.
Wow, so this is why they won't make any more... Vigilante 8 and 2nd Offense wouldve crushed TM with all their advanced mechanics, especially with the level deformation. TM 3 & 4 didn't improve on anything.
Lol TM4 has more faster and dynamic gameplay then V8. Flying power-up make your car clunky in V8, gravity is weird (like in TM:SB), cars also turning on the place like they stands on the ice. Both V8 games have very clunky gameplay (but first game are better in my opinion). TM4 alot better and enjoyable.
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Thank you for doing this Kong! Very cool!
Primevil gettimg all his health back in the first 2 minutes 😂
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I'm glad they're proud of making TM3 & 4. It's criticized far too harshly
both are criticized for fair reason.
@@zeonacepilot3420yea because they were better games gameplay wise. Jaffe bots pick fanboyism and nostalgia over proper game mechanics
@@itsame9647 completely wrong about everything you just said, kiddo
@@jessejive1174 lol "kiddo" is always ironically used by little kids who think they're so wise and smart xD
and nothing I said was wrong. both games were improvements to the terrible ice rink physics of TM1&2. Cope harder Jaffe meat rider
They were a big step down in playability from 2. And the color palette was too cold compared to 1 and 2.
Adrian Stevens was the only programmer on Vigilante 8.
Soundtrack for 3 slapped hard
Jim Buck deserves more love for Making TM3 and TM4 those are my beloved Games
Big thanks for interview with devs of TM3 and especially with TM4 (TM4 is my favorite Twisted Metal game 😍). Devs have answer why Sweet Tooth don't have voice in TM4?)
p.s: I'm always think about physics in TM4 and that feels like this game can have additional mechanics for tricks like in GTA. TM3 really have alot of cons but also have one of the best soundtrack in series.
I like TM4 story because in this game players get answers for some interesting questions about Calypso and his power. Sweet Tooth's flaming hair also real have sense in TM4.
Cons of TM4 is no Twister, bad optimization for 4P mode and would be cool if car editor can be a more rich. In gameplay part game is perfect, nice FX, great OST, nice graphics and more completed energy system. Only difficulty is not too high (but thats already fixed in mod).
I love Twisted Metal 3 and totally think it deserves the title. I do keep coming back to it often because I like the pace, physics, and replayability. ~Firestarter main
I know I am in the minority but I always loved twisted metal 3 the most. it was the first one I played and I just had so much fun with it.
Im in that same boat. I played TM3 first was able to beat it multiple times. Im thinking I also enjoyed it because I enjoyed the rallycross titles and physics they hadbased it off of? I later recieved a long box copy of Twisted Metal 2 (my brother later traded it in at a gamestore like a dummy) but I liked that as well. But TM3 and 4 have that nostalgia. As well as a viper(spectre) and civic ( pizza boy)😂😂😂😂
Still gotta disagree. While I had fun with my cousin introducing me to this game. Twisted metal 1 and 2 will always be my go to next to Black. Tm 3 lacked a lot of detail that was missing that only the first 2 games had. Besides the game was rushed. Club kid is definitely one of the reasons why I even go back to tm3. The level design is so boring and whoever picked the soundtrack, boy were they obsessed with Pitchshifter, alot...... They didn't even bother making original tracks for the levels. Tm 4 had a better variety of music compared to 3. Even to the level design.
I've always enjoyed TM3, I never listened to the backlash it got. I rented it a few times, had a friend copy the disc to a red Memorex Cool Colors CD-R, and I still have it today. I mastered the PS1 swap trick, but after awhile I got a Gold Finger cheat cartridge, that went into the port on the back. Besides that, and the music not working (I always blasted my own music while playing), I had a very good time with TM3. :)
Same here, I don't really know why tho, maybe it's because it was my first Twisted Metal game and I used to play it with my cousin and my friends, IMO the character designs and weapons were the most iconic of all ps1 games and I just had a blast with it, I didn't mind the floaty physics that much because the fun I was having pretty much made me not even notice that... I always found TM1 & 2 very rough on the edges (specially the ramming damage & physics, sometimes it was absurd), I enjoyed TM2 but not nearly as much as TM3, the locations and maps were way more iconic in TM2 but besides that I preferred everything else in TM3 (and I never got to play TM4 until a few years ago, which fixed many of the issues of the 3rd game but it's not as iconic IMO)...
Same
love these videos! especially the Q&A with Dev ones.. and thank Jim Buck for all he's done. Not only do I like, but really preferred his and his colleagues' take with TM III and 4. If only they had been allowed more development time for both 3 and 4. And I agree that a blend of the perks of these 2 games would be absolute dream to this day.
25:11 - I can confirm with some experimentation that that is exactly how the AI works in TM1 and TM2. They rely on the player being within an arc of the front or rear of their vehicles.
The only reason the rolling demo in TM2 appears to have AI cars attacking one another is because the AI are being staged with a motionless player target hidden off-camera and tucked away close enough for the AI to fire blindly.
I grew up playing TM3 & 4 and loved them then, still play them now. The hate they get is largely performative as TM1 & TM2's flaws are now well-known amongst the community, and there's a lot of cognitive dissonance about it lol.
I don’t love TM3 but 4 is definitely great.
I still think this game is not THAT bad of course it has issues but I enjoyed back in the day.
TM3 was my first ps1 experience. Spent a lot of hours with it. Would love to see a remaster of 3 and 4!
Tm1, tm2 , tm3 and tm4 would be amazing remastered.
tw3 will still forever be one of my childhood favorites. and to find out it was only made because of my other all time favorite car combat game V8? just wow. personally im saddened that TM overshadowed V8 as V8, to me at least, is a superior game. especially with the improvements made in V8 second offense.
The gameplay at the ~2:00 mark is just hilarious with Primeval constantly getting health
You’re bringing up George Wood, that brings up Retsupurae memories :P
I still play twisted metal 3 and the others to this day
Great interview man!
At the end of the day tm3 and tm4 are both full of content and you get what you pay for. It is a complete game and thats saying something in this day and age
Great interview. Some great insight. Subbed
When i was a kid, i honestly liked this game and enjoyed playing it despite it's many flaws but still had a good time.
Jim Buck is cool
TWM3 is my favourite twm in the series
Twisted Metal 4 is my goat for these games. I just keep going back to it. Mostly cause I wanna be the best soeedrunner lmao. I'm glad V8 and TM3 and 4 are so intertwined since my partner grew up with Interstate 76 and I grew up with Twisted Metal. This is a great interview.
I think twisted metal 3 and 4 are great and I think they still look great in 2024
True. They look old and grimey, but they've acquired a charm for that, as good old games often do.
my first twisted metal was 4 and i beat it with capitan grimm so imagine the pain it was but its still one of my favorite ps1 games
Tm3 is the first one I ever played, saw or knew about then tm4. So I have love for both of them. I think tm2 is better but tm3 and 4 are so much fun too especially split screen with your friends
Primeval was fucking Sweettooth up 😂
traductor in SPANISH bro? i love this game
I would love a remaster of TM 1-4 and Black. Don't touch anything except to make the physics a little better and improve the damage of some specials
It looks like some sequels of that time were screwed because of the differences between the developers and the Big ones, the same happened to Diablo, Diablo I and II were made by Blizzard, but after differences Diablo III was made by a totally different team.
So now we know why TM 3 is so different and looks more like Vigilante 8 than to originals Twisted Metal.
I wish we could get that Egypt level. & Washington looked a little bigger on the trailer I believe
Twisted Metal 3 was my favorite of the OG trilogy. Maybe it is because it was the first one I had played. I thought the soundtrack, characters, maps, and bosses were so cool other than a few.... was so great at the time to me
Give me a TM5.
The thruth revealed about why Sweet tooth flops all the fuckin' time TM3
Legendary, Kong.
14:47 what he is talking about here is something that I have been dreaming about for years...Graphical remasters, and I would be happy with just getting it for TM 1 and 2! but it would be awesome for the others as well.
Imagine a game that played like TM2 but looked like TM2012...that's my dream right there
im so down with twisted metal 3 getting a reboot / update to the graphics release kinda thing
Ill pick TM3 over TM1 anytime... The music is cool and the gameplay is fun. The physics and the maps sucks (except London maybe).
On my 8th birthday my cake had an edible art cover of TM3 on top.
Great interview, although I wish someone would have asked why Sweet Tooth is hidden behind a code. That is going to bug me forever.
If I recall, it was due to physics issues when letting the player control him, so he wasn't a part of the regular choices.
@@JimBuckhi Jim Buck 👋!! Also, I'm surprised the reason wasn't that it was a copy design from TM2, which also had minion and sweet tooth code-locked the same way.
I mean, I was the physics programmer, so I *think* that was the reason.. it was the reason for Darkside and Primeval.. they were too big and easy to get caught up on corners of things.
@JimBuck If you would have told 7 year old me that a lead dev on the first game I played in one of my favorite series of all time would reply to me. I would scream. Thanks for the nostalgia. 😊
Hah, no problem! I'm not *that* cool but only sorta cool. :)
Primeval bullied the hell out of you 🤣
Honestly if Sony gave more talent a chance to soft reboot some of their amazing classics we would have great games again if they don’t follow the new trend of release now fix later
Twist metal 3 is in my top 3 games of twist a metal. It's probably number 2 if it wasn't so flat it probably number one.
I akso love the physics. I know a lot of people hate on them but they drive like" real" cars. All other games in a series drive like the world is made of ice. But I Am also a Race car game lover...
Does Jim have a RUclips channel
Yes he does. youtube.com/@jimbuck?feature=shared
It's mostly music stuff, but there is a physics talk on there on how I implemented the physics that ended up in TM3/4.
@@JimBuck that’s awesome I’ll check it out! RallyCross is one of my favorite ps1 titles. Would love to see you get to work on a new Twisted Metal. Maybe you and Goodrich could twist some arms 🤣.
Ahh, more and more people heard of Rally Cross; this is cool since it's still my favorite game to have worked on. :) As for getting on a new TM project, I have no "juice" for arm-twisting Sony, unfortunately. I haven't worked there in 19 years. That said, I would totally work on such a project.
@@JimBuckI never played rally cross which was the origin of the TM 3 physics engine but one question I have always had was, in what way was the functionality of the engine altered to accommodate a car combat style game?
Was that a challenge early on in development in a way that kind of hampered your teams gradual vision of the game as it was finally coming together?
I've found things like this interesting, as often times the physics engine allocated can really be a Boon or Bane to certain projects.
One recent example is Ubisofts decision to give the F2P shooter XDefiant an engine that was specifically made for an MMORPG which has been a huge ongoing challenge for the team since release.
I had already known about tm but my cousin had tm 3 when it came out and we would play co op. Playing it as a kid it felt fun but playing it as a adult. The level design was pretty bland. I loved the car design but the physics felt so weird compared to tm2 and 1. They removed a lot of small details such as the cars being on fire. Tm 1 the cars would actually stay, while in tm 2 the cars would explode without disappearing if you ram them or if you use freeze and machine guns. The cars then explode after a while giving the effect the cars on fire still. Tm 3 and 4 was missing this. Its still my second least favorite while Brawl is my least favorite.
Was there a reason of why TM3 and 4 were never released in Europe? was it because of the critical reactions it had?
TM3 is still a great game
Wow, so this is why they won't make any more...
Vigilante 8 and 2nd Offense wouldve crushed TM with all their advanced mechanics, especially with the level deformation. TM 3 & 4 didn't improve on anything.
Lol TM4 has more faster and dynamic gameplay then V8. Flying power-up make your car clunky in V8, gravity is weird (like in TM:SB), cars also turning on the place like they stands on the ice. Both V8 games have very clunky gameplay (but first game are better in my opinion). TM4 alot better and enjoyable.
Be sure to thank Vigilante 8 😉