I'm running the Wuala Client on Windows and on Mac OS X. Honestly, I've never been a Java fan, but this software is a nice piece of work. Fast enough and user friendly and thus proving that Java -as has been mentioned before- has matured.
The encrypted files are kept in a cache. You can define how big that cache should be, e.g. 1 or 10 GB, very similar to a browser cache. If a file becomes very popular, a content distribution protocol similar to BitTorrent comes into play, making use of encrypted fragments in the cache. As for the other question, we don't see what people store or share if the files are private since we respect the user's privacy.
i think i didn't explain that point well enough. let's say you revoke access to a folder to marc. then marc doesn't have access to that folder anymore immediately. lazy revocation is only on a technical level: only if marc had a hacked client which would keep the access key to that folder, he could decrypt the files he had access to before as long as there are no changes to the folder (add, edit, remove). see our cryptree paper or lazy revocation in general for details.
TERMINATED: Wuala WAS a secure online file storage, file synchronization, versioning and backup service originally developed and run by Caleido Inc. It is now part of LaCie, which is in turn owned by Seagate Technology.
To those who don't understand why you'd only get 7GB with 10GB*70%: Your "downtime" should equal your "uptime", right? Your "uptime" is 10GB*70% But your "downtime" is actually 100% (you can access your files at 100% of the time), to make downtime and uptime equal, but downtime 100%, you need to get 7GB. You wouldn't want 10GB of storage and only be able to access it 70% of the time, right?
It is true you don't get as much as you share but what you get is a different kind of storage. Universally accessible from any Wuala client and fault tolerant. Also you are only deducted what you add into to Wuala once, not for every replication. So 7gb would only be 7gb not 35gb.
Just to clarify, doesn't d points uniquely specific a polynomial of degree d-1? For example, 1 point uniquely specifies a polynomial of degree 0 (constant), 2 points uniquely specifies a line, 3 points specify a parabola, etc.
we only see files that have been made public. all private / shared files we don't see and we can't encrypt, since your password never leaves your computer.
Java is natively cross-platform. Java has had its criticisms in the past due to poor performance but it has matured enough that there is no justifiable reason to criticise it anymore. C# is an open standard but you are restricted to third-party cross-platform GUIs like GTK or QT. I am not sure of cross-platform concerns about C++ and ObjC.
I'm using this and I don't like the fact that it's commercial/closed source, but it's still free, and I think it's the best thing around for exchanging things with friends. And it works perfect on linux. Can you share specific things with specific people on freenet? Or just backup your stuff only for yourself? Please let me know..
if a fragment is lost , you must apply erasure code to cover it? you said local machine has copies sth like that..........what is point of archiving then?
"All antendees will also get an invitation code to join the early alpha version" Would you consider giving invitations to the first 100 or whatever who respond to this video? think about it. I mean how many people are watching the techtalks as they come out? There's gotta be some kinda payoff for that.
"Unlike traditional online storage systems, Wuala is decentralized and can harness idle resources of participating computers to build a large, secure, and reliable online storage. This enables its users to trade parts of their local storage for online storage and it allows us to provide a better service for free." They just killed this feature. A bad, bad, decision.
this misses the point. there is no such concept of "a copy" in this network - at least not in a sense visible to the user. copies of the various packets are sent and purged based on demand.
There is nothing native about a virtual machine. It is cross platform. Yes the virtual machine has increased performance but honestly pc's just got fast enough to not notice the bloat. Java is actually fast for system tasks but desktopapplications are just a bad idea in java.
I am never going to forgive Lacie for burying this tech. This deserves a comeback.
I'm running the Wuala Client on Windows and on Mac OS X. Honestly, I've never been a Java fan, but this software is a nice piece of work. Fast enough and user friendly and thus proving that Java -as has been mentioned before- has matured.
I'd love to be in the alpha, and since I watch these engedu films, I would assume that I'm the right type of person for it :)
Wuala for Linux is here! :-) Since yesterday.
This is Dominik. Thanks for your interest! I assume you have received your invite by now. If not, please let me know.
The encrypted files are kept in a cache. You can define how big that cache should be, e.g. 1 or 10 GB, very similar to a browser cache. If a file becomes very popular, a content distribution protocol similar to BitTorrent comes into play, making use of encrypted fragments in the cache.
As for the other question, we don't see what people store or share if the files are private since we respect the user's privacy.
Wuala sounds promising! I can't wait for the Linux client :-)
yes, you're right of course.
i think i didn't explain that point well enough. let's say you revoke access to a folder to marc. then marc doesn't have access to that folder anymore immediately.
lazy revocation is only on a technical level: only if marc had a hacked client which would keep the access key to that folder, he could decrypt the files he had access to before as long as there are no changes to the folder (add, edit, remove). see our cryptree paper or lazy revocation in general for details.
TERMINATED: Wuala WAS a secure online file storage, file synchronization, versioning and backup service originally developed and run by Caleido Inc. It is now part of LaCie, which is in turn owned by Seagate Technology.
36:08 comparison with Freenet
37:30 comparison with Mojo Nation
43:05 comparison with Deep Store
To those who don't understand why you'd only get 7GB with 10GB*70%:
Your "downtime" should equal your "uptime", right?
Your "uptime" is 10GB*70%
But your "downtime" is actually 100% (you can access your files at 100% of the time), to make downtime and uptime equal, but downtime 100%, you need to get 7GB.
You wouldn't want 10GB of storage and only be able to access it 70% of the time, right?
It is true you don't get as much as you share but what you get is a different kind of storage. Universally accessible from any Wuala client and fault tolerant.
Also you are only deducted what you add into to Wuala once, not for every replication. So 7gb would only be 7gb not 35gb.
interesting thoughts..
Just to clarify, doesn't d points uniquely specific a polynomial of degree d-1? For example, 1 point uniquely specifies a polynomial of degree 0 (constant), 2 points uniquely specifies a line, 3 points specify a parabola, etc.
we only see files that have been made public. all private / shared files we don't see and we can't encrypt, since your password never leaves your computer.
Java is natively cross-platform. Java has had its criticisms in the past due to poor performance but it has matured enough that there is no justifiable reason to criticise it anymore.
C# is an open standard but you are restricted to third-party cross-platform GUIs like GTK or QT. I am not sure of cross-platform concerns about C++ and ObjC.
I'm using this and I don't like the fact that it's commercial/closed source, but it's still free, and I think it's the best thing around for exchanging things with friends. And it works perfect on linux. Can you share specific things with specific people on freenet? Or just backup your stuff only for yourself? Please let me know..
How does this improve on AFS/OpenAFS?
If it's not open source, how can you hope to verify that it's secure?
if a fragment is lost , you must apply erasure code to cover it? you said local machine has copies sth like that..........what is point of archiving then?
bah, youtube doesn't allow me to post URLs? whenever i post a URL, it fails...
@hhan44 What to dlls and torrents have to do with Wuala?
Oh, we have to wait 48 hours to see if that one worked?
@SyntheholVideo agreed. I posted to Posterous:
LaCie: Wuala ceases to trade storage, loses essence
i just tested it on debian lenny amd64 ,, it just dont work. :(
Could you just do this using FXP?
If you're putting up 10GB for 70% of the time, 7GB is exactly what you should get back.
I wished it didn't run on Java either. Java's pretty unstable and it crashes very easily on my Mac.
@stalepie35 why?
say it to eclipse developers :)
"All antendees will also get an invitation code to join the early alpha version"
Would you consider giving invitations to the first 100 or whatever who respond to this video?
think about it. I mean how many people are watching the techtalks as they come out? There's gotta be some kinda payoff for that.
"Unlike traditional online storage systems, Wuala is decentralized and can harness idle resources of participating computers to build a large, secure, and reliable online storage. This enables its users to trade parts of their local storage for online storage and it allows us to provide a better service for free."
They just killed this feature. A bad, bad, decision.
it uses a bunch of OSS and they plan to open it in pieces...
this misses the point. there is no such concept of "a copy" in this network - at least not in a sense visible to the user. copies of the various packets are sent and purged based on demand.
ok, another try: you can find the paper at dcg dot ethz dot ch (search for cryptree and havelaar)
48:32 (!)
bullshit
7GB space for me .. when i give in 10gb and stay online for 70% of the time...
thats just crap
i dont see commercial viability
There is nothing native about a virtual machine. It is cross platform. Yes the virtual machine has increased performance but honestly pc's just got fast enough to not notice the bloat. Java is actually fast for system tasks but desktopapplications are just a bad idea in java.