Just received my copy of the Peach Orchard book. Next on the "to read" list and am greatly looking forward to it. Always considered day two on the south end too busy and convoluted to cover in one all encompassing study. Spent a good number of hours there with historian BCP (RIP). How fortunate I was... Thanks guys! Keep up all your good work!
@@mattcallery62 Hi Matt! Just found the podcast and enjoy it so much I hope to become a patron real soon! Free content just isnt fulfilling my GBurg addiction!Can I pay a lump sum or does it need to be monthly! Keep up the good work! Tell Tim Smith Cavalry rules! 😉
jumpmaster 82nd haha I’ll be sure to tell him. We have a donate button at the bottom of our homepage at www.addressinggettysburg.com but I don’t have a way to unlock the Patreon content that way. In order to get that one needs to become a patron. Real nerds seem to love the content over there. Thanks for listening! I’m glad you like it
Just finished Hessler's and Isenberg's book a few days ago. It's very readable, detailed and provides a good analysis of the action. Will definitely be reading the other books mentioned.
I am a descendant of the brother of Col Calvin Craig of the 105th PA and am the proud owner of an original copy of the history of the 105th. Reading it and specifically about the fight on July 2nd it doesn’t seem to be compatible with the usual narrative from tours talks I see online or documentaries I’ve watched. Most documentaries and guide videos gloss over the fight and suggest that the Union troops didn’t fight hard and ran in the face of a superior rebel force. When reading the accounts they fought exceptionally hard fell back rallied fought again fell back rallied fought again then reformed on 9 esperare occasions then with elements of other units to retake the guns lost previously by the artillery. I know sometimes battle reports can exaggerate unit exploits so just trying to get a better understanding of what really happened in July 2nd
I bet if they just tucked tail and did their impression of Frenchmen, the battle wouldn’t have lasted as long as it did or the Confederates wouldn’t have taken so many casualties. I’d love to see that book. I’ve recently started trying to collect regimental histories.
@@addressinggettysburg i can send you pictures of it via email if you would like. However we live in Utah so driving it by would be a little tough. My great grandfather traveled from Pennsylvania and ended up in NM which in itself is a fabulous story but not really relevant to what his uncle did in the civil war.
I just watched the 2 author's talk about the book the peach orchord sickles and longstreet on PCN. In that they concluded that it wasnt an advantage to the north or the south to control that ground. When Sickles moved his troops up that got meade to bring troops up to the ground that Sickles left. However, suppose that sickles hadn't moved up and longstreet hit his original position with the same force and had same outcome. Meade hadnt brought up reinforcmemts and the confederates now had complete control of the ground that sickles originally started at. What would be the shape of the union line then? What if longstreet would have also put some troops on little round top as well at that time? I believe Sickles delayed longstreet's advance and also forced mead's hand to send up reinforcments earlier than what would have been done thus saving the union from total defeat.
I think the Union line would have looked like a horseshoe. Here’s the thing, if Sickles had remained and Longstreet hit him there and dislodged him, Meade would have had to send reinforcements anyway. Maybe they would have pushed Longstreet back to the Emmitsburg Rd. Ridge. Maybe Longstreet would occupy some of Cemetery Ridge and the Round Tops. I do know this, though: the confederates would have still lost the war, no matter what happened here
I love the award winning Tim and Jim! Great program!
Thank you
I can’t believe I missed this episode until now. Epic pairing of Tim and Jim.
Glad you found it eventually lol
Thanks; really enjoy the show.
Glad you enjoy it!
@@addressinggettysburg I'm on the Gettysburg battlefield listening to your case concerning the 'War Weariness' of the North.
Thank you.
Awesome stuff. Learn something every time.
That’s the idea! Glad you found us
Just received my copy of the Peach Orchard book. Next on the "to read" list and am greatly looking forward to it. Always considered day two on the south end too busy and convoluted to cover in one all encompassing study. Spent a good number of hours there with historian BCP (RIP). How fortunate I was...
Thanks guys! Keep up all your good work!
yeah day two was a fuster cluck on the south end
@@mattcallery62 Hi Matt! Just found the podcast and enjoy it so much I hope to become a patron real soon! Free content just isnt fulfilling my GBurg addiction!Can I pay a lump sum or does it need to be monthly!
Keep up the good work! Tell Tim Smith Cavalry rules! 😉
jumpmaster 82nd haha I’ll be sure to tell him. We have a donate button at the bottom of our homepage at www.addressinggettysburg.com but I don’t have a way to unlock the Patreon content that way. In order to get that one needs to become a patron. Real nerds seem to love the content over there. Thanks for listening! I’m glad you like it
@@addressinggettysburg No problem! I will just have to go that route! Hopefully get the time to do that ASAP! Thanks!
Terrific!
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This was a really neat conversation. Thanks for posting it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just finished Hessler's and Isenberg's book a few days ago.
It's very readable, detailed and provides a good analysis of the action.
Will definitely be reading the other books mentioned.
Great to hear!
I am a descendant of the brother of Col Calvin Craig of the 105th PA and am the proud owner of an original copy of the history of the 105th. Reading it and specifically about the fight on July 2nd it doesn’t seem to be compatible with the usual narrative from tours talks I see online or documentaries I’ve watched. Most documentaries and guide videos gloss over the fight and suggest that the Union troops didn’t fight hard and ran in the face of a superior rebel force. When reading the accounts they fought exceptionally hard fell back rallied fought again fell back rallied fought again then reformed on 9 esperare occasions then with elements of other units to retake the guns lost previously by the artillery.
I know sometimes battle reports can exaggerate unit exploits so just trying to get a better understanding of what really happened in July 2nd
I bet if they just tucked tail and did their impression of Frenchmen, the battle wouldn’t have lasted as long as it did or the Confederates wouldn’t have taken so many casualties. I’d love to see that book. I’ve recently started trying to collect regimental histories.
@@addressinggettysburg i can send you pictures of it via email if you would like. However we live in Utah so driving it by would be a little tough. My great grandfather traveled from Pennsylvania and ended up in NM which in itself is a fabulous story but not really relevant to what his uncle did in the civil war.
I just watched the 2 author's talk about the book the peach orchord sickles and longstreet on PCN. In that they concluded that it wasnt an advantage to the north or the south to control that ground.
When Sickles moved his troops up that got meade to bring troops up to the ground that Sickles left. However, suppose that sickles hadn't moved up and longstreet hit his original position with the same force and had same outcome. Meade hadnt brought up reinforcmemts and the confederates now had complete control of the ground that sickles originally started at. What would be the shape of the union line then? What if longstreet would have also put some troops on little round top as well at that time?
I believe Sickles delayed longstreet's advance and also forced mead's hand to send up reinforcments earlier than what would have been done thus saving the union from total defeat.
I think the Union line would have looked like a horseshoe. Here’s the thing, if Sickles had remained and Longstreet hit him there and dislodged him, Meade would have had to send reinforcements anyway. Maybe they would have pushed Longstreet back to the Emmitsburg Rd. Ridge. Maybe Longstreet would occupy some of Cemetery Ridge and the Round Tops. I do know this, though: the confederates would have still lost the war, no matter what happened here