How Should Christians Engage Politically with Auron MacIntyre
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Auron MacIntyre talks about how Christians should engage politically. Jon and Auron discuss localism, cancel culture, and unconventional approaches to the political position Christians in the United States are in.
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Longtime listener. Best episode period.
Maybe not the best. But nearly. This one is worth listening to a couple of times at least.
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@@joelsaint3185this guest was on Right Response's podcast and I have listened to it three times already. Just riveting and so well articulated!
When in Babylon, be a Daniel.
I'm pumped to see you 2 together on a pod. Auron's insight and rise is so exciting as he brings a refreshing vantage point to the political forum. His boldness of the reality of politics could be helpful for Christians to regain their identity within our communities and country. Bravo 👏
Has he even been transparent about which branch and denomination he's a member of?
wild internet crossover
I’ve waited three years for this crossover! LFG!!
Excellent podcast that I will share with my friends. I hope it leads to a return visit by Jon to Auron's podcast and that Jon will get to go on the other Christian podcasts at The Blaze: Allie Beth Stuckey and Steve Deace.
Would be cool. Remember the second question I asked Auron though- "What makes you different." There's a reason Auron is willing to associate with me and others won't.
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast What makes him different is that he managed to get owned by Karlyn Borysenko of all people.
Auron McIntyre is by far the best political commentator in America today. No one has a better understanding of where America is and how we got here.
He's full of hot air. He'll never discuss anti-Catholicism because that would lead to him talking about the treatment of Catholic immigrants in which he'd have to admit that he's regurgitated the same takes as the Protestant nativists of yesteryear. He's not going to use the Mexican-American War as the shining example of why we shouldn't just trust the government because that chapter in American history is harmful to the message he preaches. He failed to discuss Autistic Sex Education. Frankly, I've no doubt he fits Kyle Rearden's description of the Patriot Rockstar.
Heck, just wait and see what happens if Ron DeSantis becomes president. My hunch is that he's going to go back to the old smears of "papists spreading Popery" because he put all his chips in the basket of Trump, a Protestant old fart.
Of all the great Christian nations that have come and gone, from the inception of Christianity until present, how many can you describe as being “libertarian”?
EXACTLY!
I can't imagine why Doug Wilson has any fondness for the word🥴
Kind of all of them before 1914. Not strictly libertarian but way fewer taxes and regulations. Very little wad banned and very little was regulated. I’m speaking essentially of Western nations. Honestly just the lack of modern technology meant some kinds of totalitarianism were functionally impossible.
@@michaeldyer7421 Look back historically and you will find that a lot of stuff was banned that the Reason magazine crowd would be very wroth about being banned.
Which branches? The various branches aren't fundamentally interchangeable.
Great episode of the podcast with a great guest. I think his analysis is spot on, I thought he hit the nail on the head in talking about how we need to see the reality of our situation instead of being stuck pushing a ideological utopia. We should focus on building our communities and righteous systems, from the bottom up. Good stuff!
Has he actually done anything that shows he's not just paying lip service? Frankly, he doesn't even see the reality that no matter how great our immigration system becomes, there will always be people who sees one particular ethnic or religious group succeeding too much at immigrating to the United States and will cry "we're getting replaced." Don't believe me? Why do you think the immigrants that stepped off the boats were treated like vermin?
Good to hear A.M. in this zone
Very good vid. Let us not forget, however, the one who created all, and then died for all. According to Ps 2 He laughs at kings and their punty plans. He is much much greater, we know Him. We have the great great power of prayer. So much greater!!
My apology for the silliness during the podcast. It's just that headlines in the news often use misdirection as click-bait (I know that was not the intention here) and it often comes in the form of poor grammar. I actually follow your channel and have been subscribed for quite some time now. Keep fighting for the faith. Soli Deo Gloria!
So, the "principle" there is really man-pleasing and social credit.
Yes, we are not called to be man pleasers, but to share the good news. Also, nations are called to promote good and truth, and stay in their lane.
Wow,you got Auron .. probably the most insightful political analyst on the scene today.
By what metric? He isn't willing to tell people what they need to hear. He isn't willing to admit that no matter what happens to immigration system, someone's always going to feel their kind is getting replaced.
@@SirBlackReedswhat an ridiculous comments
Jon please do a study of Sound of Freedom being marketed by Mormons to emphasize miracles and angels and good deeds over grace
It's a fantastic film and everyone of appropriate age/maturity should see it without reservation
The movie has zero Mormon messaging.
@arminius504 Correct, but there are lunatic fundamentalists who insist you practice 4 degrees of separation or you're unclean. They have no problem when they pay a Mormon plumber to fix their leaky faucet, but then say, "How dare you watch a movie that portrays a Mormon law enforcement hero"
Excellent!
Plenty of good discussion but nary a mention of memes. Clearly we need a followup to talk about tapping the sign.
Gold
(9:46) _We were sold this kind of idea that we were gonna set up a really neutral government. That we're gonna have this public square which was open to everybody and there was never going to be any kind of ideological push one way or another. We had this government that was constructed by the Constitution and it would make sure that it kind of operated on its own in perpetuity without kind of the ideological influence of one side or the other. And this would not only be the way that we ran our government but also how we would also operate most of our public institutions in general._
_Such as education, even those that are supposed to be private but obviously have a public role like corporations. These things were going to always be interested in something specific like making money or making sure that we have the best roads or you know making sure that kids can read, write, and do math and they're not going to actually instill anybody's worldview because we're this multi-cultural, multi-value milieu of different ideas that come together. So we all have to be governed by something neutral that wouldn't impose one group's values on the other_
_That was never true. That was always very clearly not the case_
_The only reason that we even had the illusion of neutrality in our institutions is that we basically had a cultural consensus of protestant Christianity and because everyone was some flavor of protestant Christian our main thing was we just don't want you to push your version of protestant Christianity onto us. We want to be able to worship the way we want to but we all have the basic assumptions of what a Christian worldview would be. Maybe those ended up not being sufficient to hold together. Look at our situation. But the point is the only reason an institution's ever felt neutral is we all shared a very similar set of values and now we've seen that without the imposition of those values, by just assuming that those values would perpetuate themselves forever, we actually opened up a situation where other values took over those institutions. So because Protestant Christianity wasn't obviously recognized as the bedrock structure of our nation, our values, morality, and our identity we then allowed other things to enter in. That's why we're seeing wokeness seems to operate as a religion for this reason. It is filling that void and it is trying to do what Protestant Christianity used to do which is become the bedrock Assumption of morality. Because it is so desperately different from what we're used to as being moral our moral visions have now become completely existentially opposed_
-Auron MacIntyre
'The Hero Generation'.
Auron MacIntyre finally on CTM!!!
Good
Do I know a single Christian with the courage of like a Richard Wurmbrand? I've been incarcerated 6 times, and the last time barely escaped being a convicted felon and 5 years in state prison. And never committed any crime! I believe if I fight against immorality the way I have in the past, in the very near future, maybe even now, I could be locked up for a long time! Am I willing to take a stand if I know the results could be very bad for me? I am no Richard Wurmbrand. Definitely not an Apostle Paul. I would almost rather let Jesus give men the consequences of their sin than use me to say things that could get me persecuted....I am a soft Christian, and trying my best to protect my children the best I know how. I need Jesus to do it all because I feel helpless to raise them with a Christian worldview
Super awesome discussion! Auron MacIntyre bringing the fire as usual!
Good interview. Auron is the best.
He simps for Vivek because the Indian American made him feel good. You can think what you want, but the reality is the Protestant nativists turned immigration into a moral panic by crying "we're getting replaced here" among other things. Vivek is stoking those same flames and MacIntyre cheered him on. How long until it starts to tear the nation asunder?
@@SirBlackReeds lawlessness/ open borders have already dissolved your nation and made a mockery out of your elections and political system. All the outrage is justified. Elites importing a new ethnic group en masse (against the will of the majority) and bashing the descendants of the people who build the country is worth complaining about to say it lightly lol. You are clueless.
LOL the title suggests that Auron MacIntyre is what Christians should engage with.
"we just lose large chunks of our economy"
oh man, I can't wait
America: One nation under Christ.
My two favourite podcasters at the same time ... riveting
Jon, yout twice referred to Auron as a Southern Baptist. Is that correct? I thought that he was a traditional Roman Catholic
He’s said more than once that yes, he is SBC. One reason I correctly thought these two would have a lot to talk about.
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Why would you think that? What traditional Roman Catholic would stay mum on anti-Catholicism, the Mexican-American War? What traditional Roman Catholic would stay silent on the fact that the immigrants were met with hostility upon arriving because of their Catholic faith? Why would he keep his listeners ignorant of the fact that religion was taking out of the public schools to keep Catholics down? That's some Protestant garbage right there.
Jon you should invite a Sheilogian like Ally Beth Stuckey on your show soon.
I don’t need a “God” sanctioned response mechanism. I just rely on my good ole brain and social awareness to help me formulate my responses.