There are a very few ultimata that are well-meaning and trying to help. "Give up the drugs or I walk." "I can't stand who you're becoming in this toxic relationship, and I won't let you take me down with you. If you don't leave that POS, I'm out." Those can be valid. They're establishing a boundary and asking you to pull back off it. A PlayStation? If you want to control how I spend my time, get gone.
I only ever have said something like this to my children to punish them... if i ever see/hear a woman doing something like that to any of my now grownup sons... this b*tch gotta go
I've seen things like that. "It's me or the video game/tabletop game/hobby". It's always the woman concerned that a man is spending more time on that, than he is with her. So the response is always "All right, what would you like to do together?" If she has no answer, then your response should be "I'm going to go and enjoy my hobby- when you have an idea, I'll gladly put it down and we can do something fun together." Do not ever bend the knee to a woman whose demand basically amounts to "amuse me". If she doesn't have any idea what to do with that time she's not getting, then don't waste your time trying to come up with something. Make *her* contribute to the relationship. You are not her dancing monkey.
Yup personally saw my friend being called a creep just because he approached a girl and tried to introduce himself. Mans got deflated like a balloon. He is introverted and extremely shy. Can't imagine the shit that is running on his brain during that time.
I'm telling you right now girls, if you ever try to make ultimatum with something we're passionate about, especially if its something we've been doing for a long time or since childhood, YOU WILL NEVER BE THE THING HE PICKS. We do the things we love because they bring us joy, and if you make up pick joy over love, it's gonna be joy that wins.
I have a shirt that reads, "I WOULD SOONER SELL MY WIFE THAN ANY ONE OF MY GUITARS." The picture has a man with several guitars and a woman being auctioned away 😂😂
Dude here. It's one thing to be open, honest and true to the people that actually matter. It's another to just be crying wolf on the internet. My intention is not to accuse anyone in the comments, nor suggest that any wrong was done by anyone, as I did not even watch this video yet. All my instincts are blaring warnings at me that the original video will test my patience, but I'll give it a try. If nothing else, I'll just take whatever I hear with a grain of salt. I, kinda lost my train of thought. 😅 But, yeah, be polite, be true, be patient, act with integrity, etc. I feel like I'm having second thoughts about this comment, but have difficulty identifying why.
Girl to Guy: "It's either me or the dog." Guy to Dog: "It's over, you have to go. Get out." Dog to Guy: "You told her like that?" Guy to Dog: "Just like that."😁😁😁
Sometimes, they 'll tell you what they want. Other times, though, they'll tell you they don't want something they do want. They expect you to read their minds and figure out which one is it. And good luck if you choose the wrong option!
@@luizbezerra4373 They set themselves up for failure - like when they tell you about a problem that's bothering them and then go off on you when you solve it for them. What they wanted wasn't for you to solve the problem, they just wanted to whinge and you to listen; frankly who has time for that.
@@luizbezerra4373 I just make sure whoever I'm seeing knows up front I'm not going to "figure" them out. If they want something, they better be upfront about it. No time for mind reading and games. I won't give something a second thought if you say your not interested in it. No logical reason to do so. Edit: My main purpose for this is to plan and budget. I'm not going to buy something for someone that might not be needed or wanted. I don't throw money away, even on myself.
The thing is, it wasn’t the PlayStation, it was the implication. She was basically saying “either you give your hobbies or I’m leaving”. If he is playing too much, don’t demand he just get rid of it, communicate that you want him to spend less time in it. It was basically letting him know that she was ready to end their 10 year relationship over something so trivial
legit if you gave that ultimatum to some of the guys i know where their hobbies got them through A Suicidal spiral in their life they would laugh to themselves as they packed your stuff and put it outside. giving the ultimatum of your favourite thing to do or ME only works if your A literal Angel sent down from the heavens anything less that is a crap deal for 90% of people.
Communicate? Did you just ask a woman to communicate (which I assume communicate properly)? BAHAHA might as well ask Jesus to declare Muhammad the messiah
Can you imagine him trying to get permission to leave the house for something other than work? Or trying to get her to let him pick what they watch on Netflix that night? There's a good chance this guy's life was a living hell.
Exactly...some people have adhd and grow attached to things. Some women with adhd play video games and build Bionicles/legos. The women seem to get too extreme against these guys.
Anyone who “tests” the relationship with ultimatum’s deserves to be single. It’s manipulative, shitty, and there’s no justification for it. If the guy really is being cold and negligent she can just leave him. It’s that simple.
Same has been said to me in hard situations. No grace is given to men. Men are dehumanized at all turns. Until you crack and men commit sudoko, and even then, the slow rise in sudoko is usually ignored and/or ridiculed. Just man up, after all.
@@MastaOfMonkeyDisastamy dad tells me that whenever i am struggling with any pain, emotional or physical (despite me not even being a man) - i wouldnt be surprised if it was something passed on to him
Nah I understand the playstation thing. "It's either me or this hobby you love, this potentially one thing you get to have to yourself to relax" Yeah I'd leave if a girl gave me ultimatums lime that, like damn. Maybe the guy is too invested in his hobbies, sure, but don't force him to throw them away
I get telling someone to tone down their hobby if it’s like they spend most nights doing it or something instead of spending time with their family but telling them to abandon it all together is just selfish behavior.
I have no problem posting my greatest L. I met a girl at the library in ninth grade, because I was reading instead of eating lunch, and she giggle-snorted at a joke I muttered to myself about something in the book. We started talking, then we started hanging out fairly regularly, either in the library to read together, in the cafeteria with her other friends, or just in the hallway between classes (we only shared one class, and it was math, and our teacher hated classroom chatter). Our friendship got to the point where I was invited to a slumber party, and I even got along with her parents. So, near the end of the year, I asked her out to the end of the year dance. She... thought I was gay. Me, being awkward since this was my first crush and all, decided to backpedal a bit, and say that I'd rather keep her friendship than force my feelings on her if she didn't return them. The Monday after that, a large chunk of the school we're all convinced I'd "pretended to be gay" in order to "force myself on her _and_ her friends", and it was because of her _totally heroic_ girl friends for _"being too smart and clever"_ that I was "found out." Completely ignoring the fact that I'd slept at her house on three separate occasions, and had done nothing to any of them. Especially since her dad most definitely knew I was straight, and that I nearly had a panic attack the first time I was over due to being overwhelmed. Yeah, turns out while we both shared a sense of dark humor, I kept mine focused on fictional characters, while she liked seeing real people get socially eviscerated. I just couldn't see the signs.
@@Dipperdog_RPGirl Thanks! But no worries. I'm cool with posting that L because I'm already twice the age I was when I took it. It's no longer a raw or painful moment, just a frankly hilarious bit of high school drama. I'm vibing these days
"He took the PlayStation over a marriage and a 10-year relationship." I'm guessing that playing the PlayStation was probably the only thing that allowed the marriage to last that long, and that all the ultimatum did was make him feel less guilty about the subsequent decision. Hope there weren't any kids...
@@WilliamAfton1946 I dunno. There are women out there that thing it's just another toy. Don't get me wrong, it is on a fundamental level. But it's the thing we do to decompress. Let loose and chill. Can't do that with with a slinky, in most cases. But that mindset makes some people think that it isn't that big a deal to give that ultimatum. And even with that. If that guy chose the Playstation. There was probably some deeper problems there
@@Taygon45 "There was probably some deeper problems there." A lot of times people will stick with a relationship where the love has gone out of it out of a feeling of obligation. In those situations, being able to have time away from the other person can make it easier, or even make it possible. Assuming it wasn't a joke, her giving a "PlayStation or me" ultimatum not only might be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but it might as well be her telling him "get rid of the only thing that keeps us from going on Jerry Springer".
Which is not even gratuitous paranoia, incidentally, since "exploiting a man's weakness in the most humiliating way possible" is something a lot of women do on a regular basis.
20:42 It's not that men don't know how to play mind games. It's just old. Why waste time playing mind games with someone when they could just find someone who's open and honest? They arent there to jump through hoops for you to entertain you quirky little whims, they just wanna meet a partner lmao
So happy my first and current partner is the most straightforward girl I've ever met. She was just like, I've liked you for a while, would you like to try being my partner? Done. We've been together for a few months and I think you're really handsome; do you want to go further? Okay, and thank you for being respectful about it. And now consistently reminds me that she enjoys my company and doesn't mind how I can be awkward or not fully expressive at times. I hope everyone finds a partner like that, and I'd argue it's worth sacrificing a bit on the looks and financial success just for that alone. The value of the mental comfort is valuable beyond words.
"when they could just find someone who's open and honest?" You imply they can find someone like that and available. When most are like this chick, that's an increasingly unavailable option.
Nah, women are naturally more inclined to play mind games than men. Observe school playgrounds, boys physically abuse each other, girls psychologically abuse each other. There's an evolutionary reason; studies show men and women are equally aggressive but in women it manifests as passive aggression (eye rolling, silent treatment, mind games). Passive aggression is a lot subtler and safer than getting into physical fights when half the population is stronger than you
The line about men being kept in captivity isn't to say they're wild animals-it's to point out that despite being people, men are treated like household pets, caged and given treats for performing the desired tricks. For the last three generations, men in the industrialised world have been told by their employers, their schools, their governments, and now even the women in their lives, that they are replaceable, they serve no purpose, and their lives are superfluous-and if they aren't allowed to see _any_ contradictory evidence, they _will_ internalise that message. Women get the luxury of being able to define themselves by who they are; men have to define themselves by what they can do-and in the modern world, that's basically nothing.
I think she's saying it in a more philosophical sense. "Men in captivity need a purpose, or else they die." In a sense if a man is without freedom and is suffering giving him a reason to go thru that may be just enough to push him through that in most cases.
"For the last three generations, men in the industrialised world have been told by their employers, their schools, their governments, and now even the women in their lives, that they are replaceable, they serve no purpose, and their lives are superfluous" Realistically it's only been this generation. The "Disposable Male" has long been a philosophy that we (I'm GenX) were taught. But we were "disposable" because we were willing to make the hard sacrifices. We did the risky jobs, we put ourselves between the women and children in times of danger, etc etc. Ever since the rise of social media, that message has changed. Women became more narcissistic and men have been told they're no longer needed. Meanwhile we still keep the country running, the water flowing, and the good producing like always. As far as employers go, we always saw them as replaceable which is why we could go to other jobs freely. Lose a job? Go find another. Today I get to watch GenZ break down on Tiktok because they're being laid off and can't deal with it. Frankly, GenZ and late term Millennials have few if any coping skills which is why it's so cringe to watch them melt down over what we would have considered trivial matters. Anxiety means you were just worried but now its treated like a mental issue and people go into tirades about mental health and self care. Like wtf?
@@randallsanchez3161 every day, I hear every member of your generation I'm forced to interact with bitching about how _"young people have no company loyalty!"_ You had jobs you could start right out of school and advance up to the head of your department in thirty years-that doesn't exist now because the head of the department is reserved for the regional manager's son-in-law. Every entry-level job has no room for internal advancement. The fact that domestic production just doesn't exist any more hasn't helped that in the slightest either. You can thank "building back better" for torpedoing that entire sector. As for the ingenious decision to watch TikTok, that sounds like a 'you' problem as well. Your generation had a great economy your parents left you after WWII, and you sold it all off to Blackrock just to spite your kids and grandchildren.
It's easy to see why women are so eager to post Ls: They get positive attention for it. You show up with one and get comforted. Dudes avoid posting Ls, because they get clowned and isolated for it. A single L that's too visible? That's getting branded on you *and* your permanent record, bud. It's who you are now.
6:30, Yep, I think most guys have learned that opening up either causes the girl to loose interest, or that anything he says can and will be used against him. That is one of the reasons why its so hard for us to open up.
@@wessltovI met a girl at the dog park a few years ago. We seemed to hit it off and I took her on two dates. On the third date she asked me to bring my xbox 360 over to watch Netflix (an idea of how long ago...) and when I got the door, her boyfriend answered. She introduced us and we sat and had a movie night... I ghosted her after that.
@@Daecoth thats a statistic between ages 20-30, which just shows most women date older men. Most men in their 20s don't have much, but by age 30 they usually establish themselves financially and etc..
I have a feeling the Playstation guy was just a confluence of things & the ultimatum was the straw that broke the camel's back. She could've been absolutely insufferable those last few years & he was just like I'm done with this I'm too old for this sh*t.
That should only be an issue if he's neglecting things that objectively need to be done to game more. Bills paid, yard and home and vehicles maintained, fridge stocked, game away. It's also worth saying that I also believe you should make at minimum a half hour to an hour just to spend with your partner daily, at least on average. Discuss things, recap, maybe the bedroom fun, but if you fall out of communication long enough that's likely to create big issues.
22:43 She likes the men, and when she sees their wives..... Which means she is looking after married men. And neither Shoe nor the vtuber noticed it. Well........
I already had a major rejection phobia thanks to depression and anxiety. The additional chance of being publicly shamed and labeled just made things so much worse...I miss the 90s and early 2000s when social media wasn't a thing
Yup, got to love the whole thing with us men being told "no means no" and we are starting to respect that. And then women try the whole "hard to get" routine and being absolutely shocked that we aren't going to keep trying.
@ElderonAnalas it's all cool man, like the adorable Vtuber says, they are the ones to avoid. Won't stop us from being good people and listening to what we are told :)
"Is it catfishing if a woman shows up to a date without makeup and looks nothing like her pictures?" Depends, if it's to the point where you'd be forgiven for thinking she was someone else entirely, then yes.
I would argue that even in a situation like that it's not warranted to *report* her as a catfish provided that the only issue with the picture is the makeup (i.e. it's not e.g. of someone else, very old, or photoshopped).
If it is basicly advertising with something fake enough to not be her natural self it is not much diffrent from photoshopping. You basicly present a fake you, and show up at the date as someone else then you show yourself to be online. Don't underestemate what makeup can do. But reporting it? I wouldn't bother.
Hey dude I am disabled, some days I can berly move and berly even awake. In the last few years I lost almost a quarter of my muscell mass to atrophy and life is basicly hell, but even with all of that I still managed to find and maintain a loving relationship with an amazing women. Now Im saying this not to rub it in your wounds but to tell you that we as man can always improve, we can always be better than we were yesterday and I know that if you belive in yourself and work to always be better at something in your life at some point someone will join your jurney. Its never too late so dont give up on the world or on yourself.
@@worldgate989 I still belive you can do whatever you set your mind to. Im not saying its not going to be difficult or that somedays youd just give up, I belive that if you persevere and Just do what you need to do you will get to a better place, wether its loosing weight, forming meeningfull connections, being more involved in a community or finding a romantic partner. Its all about doing your best so if it doesnt workout you know you did everything you could. Can't is a term that is said at tge very end and I refuse to agree this is the end for you.
About getting kids later in life: dad was 40, mom was 39 when I was born - mom died at 46, dad died at 65 (grandparents died way back in the 80s and early 90s). Being alone (or having no family left) in the world at the age of 25 isn't that nice.
My father died when I was 24, but my covert narcissist mother is still alive, kicking and excells at makes everyone around her miserable. I'd say you're better off.
Man, hearing this reminded me how much time I wasted and how lucky I am for having my parents still alive. I am sorry for your loss. I know I would have been in deep trouble without my parents at 25.
A woman dying at 46 is pretty rare, you`ll have to admit. My mom had me at 45 and she died at 82, so that`s 37 years. That`s much more common. Your mom could have had you at 19 and been gone by 26 also. Just the luck of the draw. Hang in there.
I find the one who wants an open relationship is usually already have something waiting on the assembly. You never hear the nerdy shy guy who has trouble with women offer that willingly.
I opened up to my stepmother once, one week later she threw it in my face We attended family therapy, i mentioned this, that day it was thrown in ny face I opened up to my first ex fiance, 2 weeks later she threw it in my face I cried in front of my second fiance once, a week later she threw it in my face, another week later she cheated on me Never again
I think you need to evaluate common personality traits all three of these women share and figure out which one A lot of the time when stuff like this happens, it's because people keep going for the same type of person due to a subconscious Sorta like how abused women keep getting into abusive relationships because it's a weird familiarity with the type of guy that ends up being abusive
@@Maxisamo1 it just modern women being toxic and nothing to do with biology. Like depression is a serious matter. If these ladies doesn't care then society doesn't care
I hear you, sorry dude. I’ve had to navigate a lot to find trustworthy people, and theyre SO worth it, but the pain while seeking them was difficult. It’s so worth it, and you got so much life ahead. Please don’t give up. Consider Maxisamo’s comment, analyze the red flags youre missing… and start small. Confide a little and test. Open up a little more and test. Let a woman earn your trust, and you’ll have won much much.
@immortalwarrior2695 I'm saying HE'S going for the same women Blaming every "modern" woman isn't going to solve his problem, he'll just be a miserable twat you're being, and likely end up single forever
Just to respond to the “men not being emotional” thing, it’s a survival mechanism. There are two reasons why this has always been pushed for men. in the heat of a bad situation, such as being in a crisis or in a battle, you don’t have the time or energy to spare to act emotionally, you have to compartmentalize or you or your comrades will die. The other is that emotions show weakness, and weakness in men will always be exploited by hostile parties, be it male or female.
It started off as an evolutionary thing, became pushed by society because war, and now we're in an awkward spot where the only encouragement NOT to act that way are a select few men and women that may or may not be your friends.
Women do like it when men are "emotionally vulnerable" but what that means is, like, opening up to them about your inner thought processes. Not openly weeping when something sad happens in a movie.
@chriswhinery925 Depends on the woman really. There are psychos that will give you crap for crying at your father's death, and then there's women that are perfectly fine with occasional private moments of weakness as long as you're able to hold it together when it matters. Depends on the woman, but many women rely on the survival mechanism of showing off their pain (including their Ls) with the expectation that someone will come save them because that's traditionally been their best recourse in dangerous situations. Gets the attention of protective men. Men who never really grew up because they've been infantalized and mommied too much occasionally do the same, but it doesn't trigger the same instincts from a grown man than it does from a woman or child. We can pretend these behaviors are the result of social pressure all we want, but almost any emotional reaction can be tied back to an instinct, a behavior built into genetics that's really difficult to change. That shit carries over from when we were living in caves for thousands of years ago and isn't so easy to overcome.
@@joshuawillingham6363 Sounds like we're on the same page completely. I basically agree with everything you just said. Each person is different and has different thresholds but the directional point I was making is just that being emotionally vulnerable with a woman in a reasonable, restrained way is seen by many of them as good because it shows you trust them, being a weepy mess for very little reason is seen by most of them as weakness. As with most things in interpersonal relationships it's a balancing act and you have to find the partner who's balance matches yours. If you're a super stoic dude who just never cries even at funerals, then the girl who would give a guy crap for crying at a funeral might just be a good fit. If you're a guy who's so emotional you openly weep when Bambi's mom gets shot, maybe consider testosterone replacement therapy. But you're right, all of it is instincts. The parts of your brain that in the back of your skull that evolved millions or even hundreds of millions of years ago are the parts that are really in charge of people's behavior, the newer frontal parts of the brain mostly just invent post hoc rationalizations for decisions that were already made subconsciously, that's how the human brain works.
I think over willing to show emotions you can have emotions or a "heart" but there are three or four hearts you or any other maintains, one in your mouth to show to the world, one in your chest to show only to your closest family and friends, and one deep within you only show to yourself- should be a fourth one for lovers unless all want to bang your cousin Jill or best friend Jim but I digress
16:20 There were some studies I read on this and yeah, humans need a reason to live. It's harder for men to do so since there's a tendency nowadays to dismiss the fatherly contribution to a family and so many government/religion based family support systems available *to the mother and child*. Oftentimes this support is only available if the father is dead or gone, so it can easily feel like there's no reason to live when you do the math and determine your family would be better off without you...
Also, if a man is left alone with his children (either the mom died or decided to go away), he receives no government support or the same amount of pity in the eyes of society like a single mom does.
@@ParlonsAstronomie that's irrelevant. Both parents should contribute to the care of their kids. If she earns less and he has custody, then she pays less in child support, but she needs to contribute financially to her own children!
@@ParlonsAstronomie It depends on the job field and how much time people put into the work. Several recent surveys on hourly pay discrepancies had things like women getting paid more per hour, but men working longer hours and earning more overall. Similar results were seen with salary pay, but I don't remember if it was higher bonuses to the men for working longer hours or something else that could still bump their pay to match or exceed equivalently skilled female coworkers.
That "no" thing is an annoying game many women love to play. It's about testing if he is persistent enough, going along with other tests of that kind. None of that is good.
My younger sister did that, a guy finally opned up to her and she was like ugh hes emotional now ew. Its always f-ed up to me men arent allowed to show any emotion, they are human too.
I have all sisters and my rule is we can't even discuss things until the tears stop and you get yourself together, it's all good, you're fine girl, now use your words.
@@Maxisamo1 uh, sure , it was a long while ago now so my memory is a bit fuzzy but he went from acting all tough to actually talking about feeling sad and tearing up when being honest And my sister, being the asshat she was to young to be with him anyway went ew man cry bad. I think he just opened up about life and stuff, the fact he was going to move soon, life stuff, I don't know the exact details because I wasn't invested in their barely legal relationship He was turning 18 when she was a few years younger or he was slightly older. It was bad all around for two super immature people and he ended up going for a girl around his age when he moved which hurt my sisters feelings but I told her it was for the better between their age gap and just toxicness habits
So true, I've actually seen people in comments on something calling a man a possible predator who SA-d his own step daughter over the fact he was crying when hearing the lost of his newborn grandchild, it was absolutely disgusting seeing how some people immediately started saying he was some disgusting person just for crying
19:40 the issue, is that even a dog wont spite eat and silently hate you when they dont like the food. And never tell you until they break up with you after forcing an argument about something stupid just to give herself an excuse to blame you. Ahhh, yes. The fairer secs that always demands "more communication"
I’ve never been in a relationship, and part of it is because I’m terrified of talking to women. It’s a combination of many factors, but most of it is me not wanting to come off as a creep. I realize that the vast majority of women don’t give af, and that I’m reading info out too much, but it’s still an irrational fear that’s been ingrained in me since birth. Social media and my personal circumstances don’t help lol.
Take some mushrooms or LSD and evaluate yourself. Saved me from being extremely shy. Not that I will ask women out, but that is more about me being happy without relationship BS.
As a man who is in a relationship, I can understand what you are going through but no worries, men and women in the end of the day are human beings and come in different ways. There will nice, respectful and great men and women but there will terrible men and women as well. I'd advise practising social skills and growing self confidence as an individual that can help in life. Social media and personal circumstances can be tough but try to go after things that work for you personally. Wish you all the best. lol
@@DatAsianGuy Honestly, that's not just women, but also alot of men as well. Alot of people don't have independent minds anymore. They get brainwashed by nonsense by social media and then become raging idiots as people. lol. This is why i encourage people to think for themselves overall.
I get it my dude. I haven’t been in a relationship in 7 years now because of my last relationship and two dating experiences combined. It’s rough out here.
If a girl gave me that "its me or the PlayStation" i would choose my PlayStation. Games literally saved my life, and are my form of therapy. So yeah, no.
A lot of them are attracted to literal psychopaths too. Coincidentally, a lot of men are psychopathic as well. Let the nutcases live happily ever after (or kill eachother), I guess.
women get a catalog of men and get to choose from that catalogue, while men have to compete and work hard just to be a candidate for that catalogue! If a guy dates a girl who says she likes guys with tattoos, if he dont have any, he knows she will at very least cheat if not leave him for some guy with tattoos! The fact that despite knowing this, woman call the man insicure for not wasting his time is a blatant display of how women rarely if ever take accountability for how they act, while men have no choice but going around fixing all that destruction ! And Yes men also break things but they also have to clean up after themselves!
I’m too autistic to be able to decipher hints, so if someone wants something from me then they better tell it to me straight. I overthink a lot, so in my head the said hint could mean a plethora of different things, and I would be unable to know the correct answer.
Same. I thought i understood intent and hidden meanings but apparently i don't, so i just take everything at face value. So much easier on my head space.
I’m autistic too I’m just going to get angry if you say one thing and mean another. I’m not going to decipher your bull shit and no one should have too. Yes means yes and no means no.
My first and current relationship started when a girl I met again by sheer chance approached me very directly after a few weeks and basically said that she’s always liked me to varying degrees and wanted to try being in a relationship without bs’ing around. I’ve never respected anyone more than her for just getting straight to the point. We have a few significant differences but that foundation of honest communication has lasted us over two years and counting even though I have zero relationship experience.
The one about ‘women never know what they want to eat’ is absolutely true. I have never, never been with a woman that has ever had answer for the question ‘what do you want to eat’ aside from ‘I dunno’. I’ve been married for 17 years and I still have no clue what the hell my wife wants to eat!
Yeah, I never know what I want to eat. It's some weird anxiety thing for me at least, like choosing one thing over another is going to end the world. Also because I'm just not that big of a food fan. Sometimes I wish food was optional
She and shoe are on the same wavelength. As a man, having a woman recognize that women are confusing af makes me feel a bit vindicated. This dating world is nuts.
@@Darkwintre I'm not entirely sure if I'm honest. Doesn't matter regardless. Any bitch that thinks she can bully me into abandoning my fuzzy little guy is not worth the wasted oxygen it would take to call her an idiot.
Men have learned that even when women say they want you to express emotions, they don't really mean it, men get punished for expressing any emotions, we don't talk about our emotions for a reason.
What is sad is that we should be able to. But the old ways of life where "get a grip" was normal (something that is now known for being stupid) is still being used against us.
Sleeping with a lot of people means that any sex that I could offer them wouldn't be special. It's the ultimate dopamine rush and not only is it incredibly diminished by the time I arrive, but that means that whatever I can offer--sexual or not--is not important. It also means that they're very adept at just cutting me off without a second thought, like I'm not special to them.
13:09 That's not insecurity, that's just refusing to deal with disrespect. You can LIKE whatever you want. You can have a type. SHARING that information (especially publicly) when the description CLEARLY excludes the person you're CURRENTLY in a relationship with, makes it sound like you're: - not acknowledging the relationship, - you're pitying/shaming the person you're in the relationship with for NOT meeting those standards, OR - you're looking to replace the person you're in the relationship with for someone who DOES fit this criteria. Don't believe me ladies? Picture this: you're out to dinner with your bf/husband and a group of mutual friends, and the question's asked to HIM, and his response is, "Typically...? I'm attracted to women who are in shape." Now which female here is gonna lie and say she wouldn't be offended by that? That's what I thought. And even when it's a couple of fairly based females reacting here; "normal women," and neither of them even stopped for a second to see that from the other person's POV. There's a woman (Amanitalks was her name IIRC) who made a video a couple weeks ago about her bf who by her own words "exceeded her expectations" of what a guy should do in a relationship, where he supported her financially, didn't cheat on her, how much she loved him, etc. but once she was on her feet, she broke up with him anyway. The women in her comments were giving her all this positive affirmation BS about how she deserved to be happy, she was better off without him, blah, blah, blah. So a completely DIFFERENT guy, took that whole story and repeated it WORD FOR WORD, but swapped the genders making it sound like this was HIS story about why HE broke up with HIS gf, and posted it with no context or link to her original story, and it blew TF up. Women calling him disgusting and all this other stuff - even though he was telling the EXACT SAME STORY she did. But hey, let's talk about how much more "emotionally intelligent" and morally superior women are, right?
THANK YOU! Even if she doesn't act on those posts and ditch her guy to find what she wants (or start pressuring the guy she is with to start looking/acting more like her type), for a guy who cares there's always going to be those lingering doubts in knowing that what your girl likes isn't you. Especially when she's posting about it on social media. Seems like Shoe and every other woman who's reacted to this conflate simply having a type/preference with posting publicly about it, but as you point out it's not the same at all.
I was looking for this comment yes this is more a L on the girls side not the guy since talking about someone else she likes basically signals the guy she is dating is most likely not her type and is still looking for her type. You can chalk it up to dating preferences but I see it as being disrespectful. No guy is going to talk about his dating preferences online while dating a girl who doesn't show those preferences.
My wife, although not as extreme, had done something along these lines to me twice. 1) explicitly told me not to get her a valentine's gift, and then got mad that I didn't get her one 2) while on holiday in November, commented that my man's razor was much better than hers. For Christmas that year I made her up a gift hamper with a little basket and bow and everything. In it was her favourite expensive perfume, the gift that she had asked for, and a (new) man's razor of the same kind I use. She flipped out because I got her a man's razor. Ignoring that I also got her her favourite perfume on top of the gift she asked for... I still don't understand why, or how it is any different from buying her a toiletries set.
It's not about the Playstation, it's about her disrespecting him, his boundaries and the things he likes. Imagine if your husband told you he's leaving if you don't delete your social media. You'd be on that social media the very same day crying about what a controlling D-bag he is!
And Women wonder why we're avoiding them now. It's easier to be single, much less dramatic, and not nearly as expensive. Love your reactions to these, had me laughing pretty hard, so thanks for that! :) Needed a good laugh. As for cheaters, they are.. disgusting. I've been cheated on, but never has it crossed my mind to do the same. And oh wow so much of this is INSANE!
6:00 100%. You’re not just lying to us but to yourself too. And when you not only use make up but surgery too and then still have the audacity to look for a good looking man because “I care what my children will look like” then stop being hypocrite. Some men wake up to their wildest nightmares the next day after marriage.
The elephant in the room is that every women wants to meet a man who will do things the exact, precise way she wants him to do it - without any communication from her of what she wants - and with no acknowledgment that what she wants may be wildly different from what the next woman wants. And then when the guy fails to answer this riddle, she complains to all her girlfriends about where have all the good men have gone. Ladies...TALK TO YOUR MEN, even the prospective ones. Just be upfront with them, I beg of you.
I'm old enough to remember when men and women agreed that it was gross for men to sleep around that much., and that it was a bad sign for the chances of a relationship with him to work out. Fathers would run those sorts of guys off when their daughters tried to bring them home, back in the days when children still had fathers, and the mothers would back them up on it. Sleeping around that much might have gotten a guy a few high-fives at a frat party or something back in the day, and it would have certainly been common rock-star or sheik fantasy material, but it generally wasn't considered a positive trait by most men or women for guys to sleep around with nearly a hundred women or more. I don't get the impression that has changed very much - seems like the only thing considered more disgusting than a guy who sleeps around is a guy who doesn't have sex at all today - but for women, among women, sleeping around that much went from being negative to somewhere between the "new normal" and "stunning and brave", and it's forbidden to criticize it in women, but not in men. I kind of miss the old days! They weren't perfect, but they made a hell of a lot more sense.....
16:04 shes kind of right about this, if they are a decent guy then chances are good he wants to feel useful and appreciated. I would argue most people want to feel that way. There is no worse feeling then being in a relationship where your partner makes you feel like an anchor and ignores anything good you do for them.. trust me, I've been there done that, it's not a good time. It doesn't even need to much, a small thank you or acknowledgement of a good deed goes a huge way in any friendship or relationship. I know guys who hold onto memories of that one time they got a compliment 10 years ago like it is the most cherished memory in their life because it happens so rarely.
6:30 So, you might say that a guy should be totally fine showing their emotions... but remember what you just read from the woman on screen: She wanted the guy to show emotion too... until the guy showed emotion and then turned her completely off. That happens more than you think. Guys showing emotion, hell... guys showing any vulnerability... can turn some girls off. And more often than not, some girls will actually weaponize that vulnerability to make the guy feel like shit in tense situations.
The "me or the playstation" chick is a type I've seen before with my friends. They want them to throw away everything they're interest in, and abandon their friends, so she become their sole interest and wants them to be utterly obedient. In those cases, it eventually turned into "see ya toots" and we got our friend back. Women, if you want a guy to replace his personality with you and nothing else, you're a psycho. If you can't deal with him having friends and hobbies, that's absusive.
"It's me or the thing you use for entertainment so you can decompress after work!" Yea, no. I won't take the abuse of my leisure and personal time. Better to get rid of her instead of dealing with someone who would lower my quality of life for no reason.
The sad thing is, if she was able to help her BF/husband relax and feel welcome at home. He likely wouldn't of been on his Play Station nearly as often but instead with her.
Welcome to Shoeonhead and the rabbit hole that is her content and if you want a laugh and be mentally scared at the same time then you have come to the right place
I tried to tell this to a friend of mine. If you open your relationship up to other people. Don't be shocked if they get attached to the other person. You're only opening it up because it got stale. It got stale cause there was something wrong. You may not like fixing what's wrong but its better than giving your partner an option to fall in love with someone else. They didn't listen and became this "Oh we're an open relationship couple!" and two weeks later she was crying on her couch cause he moved all his stuff out while she was at work to teh other girls place.
I've dealt with so many people throughout my life that would play mind games to the point I make it next to impossible for people to get close to me so I can figure out what their real intentions are. I am not wasting anymore time with people that don't know what they want or hide their intentions.
Explaining popular expressions (even if they seem obvious) is not only good for our fellow bummers, but also for your international viewers, anyone can quickly get an answer by different means, but getting it in-video is always welcomed.
Shoe actually did do two "prequels" about this subject. One about the epidemic of male loneliness and another asking the question 'are the men okay?' It get's darker in the last one she did about the rise of AI and its impact on the dating market and the further downward spiral of male mental health. It's depressing stuff but worth a watch. If nothing else but to get more of an understanding of how dismal life can easily be for men nowadays. And maybe, if one happens to be one of the women who are part of the problem, it'll serve as a wake up call to maybe not be such a raging a**hole. Or if you're the other brand of well-meaning a**hole who's answer to everything is "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" or some platitude like "there's someone for everyone". Neither sentiment having any basis in reality whatsoever beyond serving as a way to deny responsibility or involvement in someone elses plight. I'm of course not saying that you, or anyone reading this, is any of those types of walking bungholes. Just that they're out there and they're plentiful.
25:40 no Dipper this wasn’t a win for the guy this was a HUGE betrayal by both he’s partner and his parent. Not only will he never trust new women in his life (assuming he’ll want new women anymore) but he’ll never trust his father again because of this.
To be fair one of the girls I dated for 4 years knew that I was a gamer I had game night with my buddies once a week and then it got cut down to once every other week which she was fine with for the first year and a half we would always do things on every other day together and we'd even go to her family's house. I would game on my days off but I would make sure to do all the household things I needed to do first I cooked all the meals in the house and I helped clean, I didn't complain about going to her family's house I didn't complain about spending time with her I didn't complain when she wanted to do girls night and go out and get drunk but I guess me playing video games and enjoying them was too much and she told me either I stopped gaming and going to game night or she was done with the relationship I kicked her out the next day
Good choice, especially if you had already cut down gaming for her and made sure everything important was done before you did any gaming. You've already made compromises for your relationship, and if she expects even more out of you (and offering nothing in return; sounds like she wasn't going to cut down on family or girl night time) then it's clear she doesn't care for your happiness, and it's fair to dip out.
I remember the story of miss "14 year marriage torpedo." She wrote the article like an old school romance novel. As for open marriage story, they only end one of two ways: they leave, or they meet someone else.
29:40 With all of my friends that had open or polyam relationships, it wasn't just that they all ended, but each one crashed and burned in the worst way possible.
Rule of thumb: if your partner suggests having an open relationship when they know that you're committed to just them, they're either already cheating on you or planning to do it, and they want your permission to do it more. It's happened way too many times where the relationship falls apart because the committed partner found someone else who's just as monogamous as they are and they split up, or their partner runs off with the person outside of the relationship - it never ends well if neither partner is polyamorous or into getting cucked when they get together.
I don't know how many of them ended up like the example in the video, but I just find situations like that funny. "You opened up the relationship, thus inviting/permitting your partner to try out others... and you expected him/her to remain faithful to you? This is pretty much all on you."
The one about a real man would stay with you even if you cheat to help make you a better person made my brain hurt. The amount of non-accountability and gaslighting had me flabbergasted 😂
YES. It's closely akin to the comment from the woman who deemed the babies she conceives with another man to be her husband's responsibility somehow - and these are usually the same women who will not date single fathers, and would never tolerate a man cheating on her. The lack of responsibility is bad enough, but the hypocrisy that comes with it adds insult to the injury....
Mind games definitely huge problem for communication and stable relationships. It's a trust issue too, how can you build trust when you're meant to arbitrarily just know when they're lying to you. That's not on the person who takes your word at face value because they trust you mean what you say. With the tattoo girl, I think the issue with both men and women like her when they interact with people outside that specific demographic is they make their entire life and personality about this one trait and activity they do. If you replace 'tattoo culture' with anything else, it's not hard to see how being hyperfocused on this one thing can become a turnoff for people who want to connect in other ways.
Honestly, i applaud for making such a well thought out and smart comment like this pointing that out. Mind games in general are a terrible thing and should be avoided entirely from both sides obviously. Honesty, truth, open mindedness, and being straightforward with what you want with no form of manipulation or lies is a great to have and can be the most important part of a relationship that keep it stable. Also when it comes to the tattoo girl, i get your point very well. The problem is alot of people like that base their personality and preferences based on one trait instead of expanding and developing your personality with different traits. Being hyper-focused on one thing can definitely be a turn off and i would recommend people to have several interests that define themselves and can help them connect with several men and women out there. I personally love tattoos in general but was never hyper-focused or obsessed with them since i am a man with variety of interests and the more diverse interests you have and the more activities you do, you are more likely to have communication and connections with people of different types. This creates more options for friendships and dating etc.
Some of these are like "Girl... please go to therapy." then you have moments at 19:00 where I start ranting again at "TALK TO EACH OTHER. COMMUNICATION IS SO EASY. JUST FREAKING TALK TO EACH OTHER!!! HEALTHY COMMUNICATION! OH. MY. GOD. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
18:44 My problem is not with indecisiveness, what I have a problem with is when I ask "how about here?" and after the food has been paid for and eaten I hear "I really would've preferred this instead." If you can't make up your own mind, don't complain about what is offered, nuff said.
I like Shoe's content. It definitely fits Dipper's taste in humor. As someone who left the dumpster fire the dating scene became years ago Shoe's humor helps with the tears.
The bit about the open marriage: If your relationship becomes exclusive, do not try to open it back up again at any point. You either start your relationship open and keep it open .. or you maintain monogamy. You can't mix and match. Rarely, if _ever,_ ends well.
29:13 Yeah, open marriages never work. Marriage is a commitment to each other, and once you open the door to let others in, you have broken that commitment. It's not a matter of if it will fail, but when.
23:16 Something I think people miss in this clip is the girl actually says something pretty self aware, she says the guys she's attracted to not just guys in general. She's admitting that she gets interest from guys but it's not the guys she wants.
Oh they get that. They get that she has enough people pining after her that she's in a position to get picky. That's something men just aren't afforded.
Yes, you are right about that. She is specifically talking about the guys that she's attracted to and not just guys in general, because she has plenty of options and she can be picky if she wants to. Although, they naturally tend to have this and this is why Men should create more options with women when choosing the women they want. Having an abundance mindset helps.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy True, they do but that's why men should be creating more options. It can be tough for alot of men for sure but if you choose with your own standards, you have better chances of getting the women you want.
@@helloalty2138 Benefit of the doubt, I'm making the assumption that she sees a guy she's interested in then sometime after be it just after the initial attraction or a few friendly greetings or conversations sees that he's attached. Of course I can be wrong and she could be seeing a guy together with his girl and lustful greed fills her heart but I like to assume people are at least slightly good.
I'll agree that for some people, both men and women, abusive relationships ARE preferable to being alone. That's why some fans simp for yanderes. 'At least they care about me. Not for my well being but... they just acknowledge that I exist and think about me at least once a day. Thats nice.'
Lmao, this was funny and entertaining 😂
i've seen a woman say that her man is "so well trained" if someone ever says that about me im going to shit on the floor
Or start acting like a cat and throwing stuff off the tables lol
It's fine as long as she calls me a good boy and gives me headpats.
Just don't do it on the bed.
Guess you're not potty trained
Getting schwifty are we?
The women in these videos freely talk about things that you couldn't get out of me with a crowbar and a pair of pliers.
This is stuff the Batman couldn't beat out of me
You would have to torture or waterboard me even get 1/4 of the information that these women are spilling for free
Professor X couldnt pull it out of my brain with his powers.
Thanos couldn't snap the defenses away
Won a staring contest against both Cyclops and Superman. I ain't saying shit now. 💀☠️🔥
It's not about the playstation, it's about the ultimatum itself.
That you dare to demand to take something away from he likes.
There are a very few ultimata that are well-meaning and trying to help. "Give up the drugs or I walk." "I can't stand who you're becoming in this toxic relationship, and I won't let you take me down with you. If you don't leave that POS, I'm out." Those can be valid. They're establishing a boundary and asking you to pull back off it. A PlayStation? If you want to control how I spend my time, get gone.
19:40 damn. Dipper going hard here!
I only ever have said something like this to my children to punish them... if i ever see/hear a woman doing something like that to any of my now grownup sons... this b*tch gotta go
I've seen things like that. "It's me or the video game/tabletop game/hobby". It's always the woman concerned that a man is spending more time on that, than he is with her.
So the response is always "All right, what would you like to do together?" If she has no answer, then your response should be "I'm going to go and enjoy my hobby- when you have an idea, I'll gladly put it down and we can do something fun together."
Do not ever bend the knee to a woman whose demand basically amounts to "amuse me". If she doesn't have any idea what to do with that time she's not getting, then don't waste your time trying to come up with something. Make *her* contribute to the relationship. You are not her dancing monkey.
It depends on how much time he is spending on it. If he spends more time on the PS than his partner... that's a problem that needs addressing.
Yup personally saw my friend being called a creep just because he approached a girl and tried to introduce himself. Mans got deflated like a balloon. He is introverted and extremely shy. Can't imagine the shit that is running on his brain during that time.
‘The worst she can say is no
@@sovietunion7643 *Proceeds to eviscerate his self-esteem for the next decade.*
The difference between sexual harassment and cute flirtation is whether she's attracted to you or not.
He wasn't cute enough, rookie mistake
This physically hurt me to read
I feel so bad for the friend
I'm telling you right now girls, if you ever try to make ultimatum with something we're passionate about, especially if its something we've been doing for a long time or since childhood, YOU WILL NEVER BE THE THING HE PICKS. We do the things we love because they bring us joy, and if you make up pick joy over love, it's gonna be joy that wins.
Anyone who wants you to give up things that you love and enjoy is just not worth keeping around.
I have a shirt that reads, "I WOULD SOONER SELL MY WIFE THAN ANY ONE OF MY GUITARS." The picture has a man with several guitars and a woman being auctioned away 😂😂
women need to stop proposing ultimatums and start proposing compromises those tend to work out better.
Why the hell are women so comfortable sharing this on the internet, you would have to water board me to even get a 1/4 of the information they share
Frodo: _Alright then, keep your [miss informations]._
Anything for clout even if it means dragging others through the mud or making yourself look like a joke
Even if they put me in Abu Grhaib they probably get at most 1/3
@@RobertPayne556 I might squeal this information out after being tortured for years in Barad-Dur...
Might.
Dude here. It's one thing to be open, honest and true to the people that actually matter. It's another to just be crying wolf on the internet.
My intention is not to accuse anyone in the comments, nor suggest that any wrong was done by anyone, as I did not even watch this video yet.
All my instincts are blaring warnings at me that the original video will test my patience, but I'll give it a try. If nothing else, I'll just take whatever I hear with a grain of salt.
I, kinda lost my train of thought. 😅
But, yeah, be polite, be true, be patient, act with integrity, etc.
I feel like I'm having second thoughts about this comment, but have difficulty identifying why.
Girl to Guy: "It's either me or the dog."
Guy to Dog: "It's over, you have to go. Get out."
Dog to Guy: "You told her like that?"
Guy to Dog: "Just like that."😁😁😁
Good guy.
Had us in the first half, ngl 😂
That's right
Man's best friend is an oath.
@@heavymetallabrat Dare I say, it's the secret unused 11th commandment
"Im mad he listened to me"
Ill never get over that women actually do operate like this then complain how men dont understand them.
"I want x"
"you were supposed to know I meant that I want y from that"
K... Lemme just get out some tarot cards next time I guess?
Sometimes, they 'll tell you what they want. Other times, though, they'll tell you they don't want something they do want. They expect you to read their minds and figure out which one is it. And good luck if you choose the wrong option!
Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
Or that's how these girls weaponize it and twist interpretations.
@@luizbezerra4373 They set themselves up for failure - like when they tell you about a problem that's bothering them and then go off on you when you solve it for them. What they wanted wasn't for you to solve the problem, they just wanted to whinge and you to listen; frankly who has time for that.
@@luizbezerra4373 I just make sure whoever I'm seeing knows up front I'm not going to "figure" them out. If they want something, they better be upfront about it. No time for mind reading and games. I won't give something a second thought if you say your not interested in it. No logical reason to do so.
Edit: My main purpose for this is to plan and budget. I'm not going to buy something for someone that might not be needed or wanted. I don't throw money away, even on myself.
The thing is, it wasn’t the PlayStation, it was the implication. She was basically saying “either you give your hobbies or I’m leaving”. If he is playing too much, don’t demand he just get rid of it, communicate that you want him to spend less time in it. It was basically letting him know that she was ready to end their 10 year relationship over something so trivial
legit if you gave that ultimatum to some of the guys i know where their hobbies got them through A Suicidal spiral in their life they would laugh to themselves as they packed your stuff and put it outside. giving the ultimatum of your favourite thing to do or ME only works if your A literal Angel sent down from the heavens anything less that is a crap deal for 90% of people.
Communicate? Did you just ask a woman to communicate (which I assume communicate properly)?
BAHAHA might as well ask Jesus to declare Muhammad the messiah
Can you imagine him trying to get permission to leave the house for something other than work? Or trying to get her to let him pick what they watch on Netflix that night? There's a good chance this guy's life was a living hell.
Exactly...some people have adhd and grow attached to things. Some women with adhd play video games and build Bionicles/legos. The women seem to get too extreme against these guys.
Anyone who “tests” the relationship with ultimatum’s deserves to be single. It’s manipulative, shitty, and there’s no justification for it. If the guy really is being cold and negligent she can just leave him. It’s that simple.
I'm 27 now, when I was 15 and my mother had cancer. The sheer number of times I was told at 15 to just man up is just boggling.
Same has been said to me in hard situations. No grace is given to men. Men are dehumanized at all turns. Until you crack and men commit sudoko, and even then, the slow rise in sudoko is usually ignored and/or ridiculed. Just man up, after all.
Seppuku*
Seduko/seduku is a game
@@DarkMark-cf1ec Thank you. Though I know. It's a way to get around the shadow banning of comments.
@@DarkMark-cf1ec this word gets you banned. Its like saying frick instead of the real one
@@MastaOfMonkeyDisastamy dad tells me that whenever i am struggling with any pain, emotional or physical (despite me not even being a man) - i wouldnt be surprised if it was something passed on to him
Nah I understand the playstation thing.
"It's either me or this hobby you love, this potentially one thing you get to have to yourself to relax"
Yeah I'd leave if a girl gave me ultimatums lime that, like damn. Maybe the guy is too invested in his hobbies, sure, but don't force him to throw them away
@Noctislolig this, you don't want people making this kind of ultimatums in your life.
i see every female reactor having the same reaction and every male one just says W and i agree i understand the ps4
Yeah and most women don't seem to get that men don't like ultimatums.
It's not just an ultimatum, but manipulation too.
I get telling someone to tone down their hobby if it’s like they spend most nights doing it or something instead of spending time with their family but telling them to abandon it all together is just selfish behavior.
I have no problem posting my greatest L.
I met a girl at the library in ninth grade, because I was reading instead of eating lunch, and she giggle-snorted at a joke I muttered to myself about something in the book.
We started talking, then we started hanging out fairly regularly, either in the library to read together, in the cafeteria with her other friends, or just in the hallway between classes (we only shared one class, and it was math, and our teacher hated classroom chatter).
Our friendship got to the point where I was invited to a slumber party, and I even got along with her parents. So, near the end of the year, I asked her out to the end of the year dance. She... thought I was gay. Me, being awkward since this was my first crush and all, decided to backpedal a bit, and say that I'd rather keep her friendship than force my feelings on her if she didn't return them.
The Monday after that, a large chunk of the school we're all convinced I'd "pretended to be gay" in order to "force myself on her _and_ her friends", and it was because of her _totally heroic_ girl friends for _"being too smart and clever"_ that I was "found out."
Completely ignoring the fact that I'd slept at her house on three separate occasions, and had done nothing to any of them. Especially since her dad most definitely knew I was straight, and that I nearly had a panic attack the first time I was over due to being overwhelmed.
Yeah, turns out while we both shared a sense of dark humor, I kept mine focused on fictional characters, while she liked seeing real people get socially eviscerated. I just couldn't see the signs.
Oh dude I'm so sorry you had to go through that experience. Wishing you the best this year to burn out the bad.
@@Dipperdog_RPGirl Thanks! But no worries. I'm cool with posting that L because I'm already twice the age I was when I took it. It's no longer a raw or painful moment, just a frankly hilarious bit of high school drama. I'm vibing these days
id like to have a drink with you
Vibes man nothing but good vibes on you
@@Pkjackal13 Thanks! Cheers to that! (^_^)/🥂
Sorry mate, met a few of those.
Nux got it right “life isn’t a shonen. It’s berserk”
The funny thing is, life is worse than Berserk. The evil, unfair shit occuring at this very moment makes the Eclipse look like a holiday.
According to MxRPlays Henry, Berserk IS Shonen.😶
@@Dedjester-to9uk I thought it was shoujo
Berserk is considered seinen manga
Oh no I'm a background character too..
"He took the PlayStation over a marriage and a 10-year relationship."
I'm guessing that playing the PlayStation was probably the only thing that allowed the marriage to last that long, and that all the ultimatum did was make him feel less guilty about the subsequent decision.
Hope there weren't any kids...
I think it was a joke ? When someone asks you that you say the choice that's not them to get a small laugh
@@WilliamAfton1946 I dunno. There are women out there that thing it's just another toy. Don't get me wrong, it is on a fundamental level. But it's the thing we do to decompress. Let loose and chill. Can't do that with with a slinky, in most cases. But that mindset makes some people think that it isn't that big a deal to give that ultimatum. And even with that. If that guy chose the Playstation. There was probably some deeper problems there
@@Taygon45 I think it was a joke when they said that. If your friend asked which one you'd probably say PlayStation to mess with them
@@WilliamAfton1946 I dunno. There was a relationship I was in where I would genuinely choose the playstation
@@Taygon45 "There was probably some deeper problems there."
A lot of times people will stick with a relationship where the love has gone out of it out of a feeling of obligation. In those situations, being able to have time away from the other person can make it easier, or even make it possible. Assuming it wasn't a joke, her giving a "PlayStation or me" ultimatum not only might be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but it might as well be her telling him "get rid of the only thing that keeps us from going on Jerry Springer".
Tell a man to show his emotions and he hears ''Give me ammos for emotional attacks''
Which is not even gratuitous paranoia, incidentally, since "exploiting a man's weakness in the most humiliating way possible" is something a lot of women do on a regular basis.
20:42 It's not that men don't know how to play mind games. It's just old. Why waste time playing mind games with someone when they could just find someone who's open and honest? They arent there to jump through hoops for you to entertain you quirky little whims, they just wanna meet a partner lmao
So happy my first and current partner is the most straightforward girl I've ever met. She was just like, I've liked you for a while, would you like to try being my partner? Done. We've been together for a few months and I think you're really handsome; do you want to go further? Okay, and thank you for being respectful about it. And now consistently reminds me that she enjoys my company and doesn't mind how I can be awkward or not fully expressive at times. I hope everyone finds a partner like that, and I'd argue it's worth sacrificing a bit on the looks and financial success just for that alone. The value of the mental comfort is valuable beyond words.
@@rOvertJustice God has his favorites
"when they could just find someone who's open and honest?" You imply they can find someone like that and available.
When most are like this chick, that's an increasingly unavailable option.
Nah, women are naturally more inclined to play mind games than men. Observe school playgrounds, boys physically abuse each other, girls psychologically abuse each other.
There's an evolutionary reason; studies show men and women are equally aggressive but in women it manifests as passive aggression (eye rolling, silent treatment, mind games). Passive aggression is a lot subtler and safer than getting into physical fights when half the population is stronger than you
@@denkerbosu3551Agreed
The line about men being kept in captivity isn't to say they're wild animals-it's to point out that despite being people, men are treated like household pets, caged and given treats for performing the desired tricks.
For the last three generations, men in the industrialised world have been told by their employers, their schools, their governments, and now even the women in their lives, that they are replaceable, they serve no purpose, and their lives are superfluous-and if they aren't allowed to see _any_ contradictory evidence, they _will_ internalise that message. Women get the luxury of being able to define themselves by who they are; men have to define themselves by what they can do-and in the modern world, that's basically nothing.
Maybe. But real men don't give a sh1t about what society says about them.
I think she's saying it in a more philosophical sense. "Men in captivity need a purpose, or else they die."
In a sense if a man is without freedom and is suffering giving him a reason to go thru that may be just enough to push him through that in most cases.
Man...I genuinely don't know what to say but that I've shared your train of thought
"For the last three generations, men in the industrialised world have been told by their employers, their schools, their governments, and now even the women in their lives, that they are replaceable, they serve no purpose, and their lives are superfluous"
Realistically it's only been this generation. The "Disposable Male" has long been a philosophy that we (I'm GenX) were taught. But we were "disposable" because we were willing to make the hard sacrifices. We did the risky jobs, we put ourselves between the women and children in times of danger, etc etc. Ever since the rise of social media, that message has changed. Women became more narcissistic and men have been told they're no longer needed. Meanwhile we still keep the country running, the water flowing, and the good producing like always.
As far as employers go, we always saw them as replaceable which is why we could go to other jobs freely. Lose a job? Go find another. Today I get to watch GenZ break down on Tiktok because they're being laid off and can't deal with it.
Frankly, GenZ and late term Millennials have few if any coping skills which is why it's so cringe to watch them melt down over what we would have considered trivial matters. Anxiety means you were just worried but now its treated like a mental issue and people go into tirades about mental health and self care. Like wtf?
@@randallsanchez3161 every day, I hear every member of your generation I'm forced to interact with bitching about how _"young people have no company loyalty!"_
You had jobs you could start right out of school and advance up to the head of your department in thirty years-that doesn't exist now because the head of the department is reserved for the regional manager's son-in-law. Every entry-level job has no room for internal advancement.
The fact that domestic production just doesn't exist any more hasn't helped that in the slightest either. You can thank "building back better" for torpedoing that entire sector.
As for the ingenious decision to watch TikTok, that sounds like a 'you' problem as well.
Your generation had a great economy your parents left you after WWII, and you sold it all off to Blackrock just to spite your kids and grandchildren.
These girls cannot have dads that stuck around
💯% fatherless behavior.
they stuck around. However, they got jealous of their mums.
@@themalcontent100 What?
@@barryevans791 daddy issues.
And neither will their kids.
It's easy to see why women are so eager to post Ls: They get positive attention for it. You show up with one and get comforted.
Dudes avoid posting Ls, because they get clowned and isolated for it. A single L that's too visible? That's getting branded on you *and* your permanent record, bud. It's who you are now.
You can win a thousand battles, but get caught with _one goat..._
@@Xahnel"I know you built 100 brridges, but what did you do with the goat🤨?"
@@Xahnel haha spot on
Her: "Would you take a shot?"
Me: well... it depends on the caliber-
6:30, Yep, I think most guys have learned that opening up either causes the girl to loose interest, or that anything he says can and will be used against him. That is one of the reasons why its so hard for us to open up.
Such a sad truth
66% of young men are single while only 33% of women are single.
Seeing this video explains ALLOT.
For me, it turned out to be a perfect test to see which of them were worth more of my time and which of them weren't
@@wessltovI met a girl at the dog park a few years ago. We seemed to hit it off and I took her on two dates. On the third date she asked me to bring my xbox 360 over to watch Netflix (an idea of how long ago...) and when I got the door, her boyfriend answered.
She introduced us and we sat and had a movie night... I ghosted her after that.
@@Daecoth thats a statistic between ages 20-30, which just shows most women date older men. Most men in their 20s don't have much, but by age 30 they usually establish themselves financially and etc..
I have a feeling the Playstation guy was just a confluence of things & the ultimatum was the straw that broke the camel's back. She could've been absolutely insufferable those last few years & he was just like I'm done with this I'm too old for this sh*t.
Or it could have been his only hobby. If a man was forcing his girlfriend to give up her hobbies, he'd be "toxic and controlling".
@@zacharyrollick6169The ultimatum was insufferable, not the 'hobby'.
I see no one-way street signs.
That should only be an issue if he's neglecting things that objectively need to be done to game more. Bills paid, yard and home and vehicles maintained, fridge stocked, game away. It's also worth saying that I also believe you should make at minimum a half hour to an hour just to spend with your partner daily, at least on average. Discuss things, recap, maybe the bedroom fun, but if you fall out of communication long enough that's likely to create big issues.
She pays, she stays. He's not running a daycare centre. Bills have to be paid, so does everything else in life.
They type of woman who drops ultimatums like that is absolutely insufferable in general. Ask me how I know.
anyone who 'suggests' an open marriage is already effing around.
Am glad she didn't hold back she spoke the truth open marriage is doom to fail
Or wants a pass to not cheat, in which case a no means cheating anyway.
Or has a fetish. 😅
Just hoeing
@@JACQUEZ23
You should tell Destiny and his fan base that. They seem to not understand it.
22:43 She likes the men, and when she sees their wives.....
Which means she is looking after married men.
And neither Shoe nor the vtuber noticed it.
Well........
@lesath7883 "OUT OF THIS HOUSE! OUT OF THIS HOUSE! spirits be gone from this house!" Is how I see it rn
More like they envy the wives who are married so they look at the kinds of men they like as a gage for seeing what kinds of women their with.
I already had a major rejection phobia thanks to depression and anxiety. The additional chance of being publicly shamed and labeled just made things so much worse...I miss the 90s and early 2000s when social media wasn't a thing
Yup, got to love the whole thing with us men being told "no means no" and we are starting to respect that. And then women try the whole "hard to get" routine and being absolutely shocked that we aren't going to keep trying.
Those are the ones you can avoid that like to play mind games until they get some sense.
@ElderonAnalas it's all cool man, like the adorable Vtuber says, they are the ones to avoid. Won't stop us from being good people and listening to what we are told :)
Vtubers not knowing who shoeonhead is is how I know I’m old.
Dman it, now I'm thinking that too. Oh well lol
You couldn't have left that unsaid, could you? Now you have me thinking I'm old too.
Lol hahaha
Is not mandatory to know everybody, especially those with channel based on trivia
You know mark felton productions? 🤷
@@RealNotallGaming Anyone on the political side of youtube knows who Shoe is lol.
"Is it catfishing if a woman shows up to a date without makeup and looks nothing like her pictures?"
Depends, if it's to the point where you'd be forgiven for thinking she was someone else entirely, then yes.
if that happens we could end up with a Granddad Freeman from the Boondocks situation.
I would argue that even in a situation like that it's not warranted to *report* her as a catfish provided that the only issue with the picture is the makeup (i.e. it's not e.g. of someone else, very old, or photoshopped).
If it is basicly advertising with something fake enough to not be her natural self it is not much diffrent from photoshopping. You basicly present a fake you, and show up at the date as someone else then you show yourself to be online. Don't underestemate what makeup can do. But reporting it? I wouldn't bother.
@@Shiirow but wasn't she the Killer Kung-Fu Wolf B!tch?
If I used a wig and muscle suit to pretend to be like Jason Momoa, then showed up without them on, the women would definitely call me a catfish.
"You know, being single isn't all that great. Maybe I should enter the dating market"
*sees this*
"I have made a slight error in my calculations"
I'm 47 and no kids. I'm also an overweight guy and women just aren't into someone who can 'make them laugh' as much as they claim they are. Who knew.
Hey dude I am disabled, some days I can berly move and berly even awake. In the last few years I lost almost a quarter of my muscell mass to atrophy and life is basicly hell, but even with all of that I still managed to find and maintain a loving relationship with an amazing women.
Now Im saying this not to rub it in your wounds but to tell you that we as man can always improve, we can always be better than we were yesterday and I know that if you belive in yourself and work to always be better at something in your life at some point someone will join your jurney.
Its never too late so dont give up on the world or on yourself.
@@נדבישרהוכמן Well good for you, and not even in a sarcastic way. Some people can and some people, can't.
@@worldgate989 I still belive you can do whatever you set your mind to. Im not saying its not going to be difficult or that somedays youd just give up, I belive that if you persevere and Just do what you need to do you will get to a better place, wether its loosing weight, forming meeningfull connections, being more involved in a community or finding a romantic partner. Its all about doing your best so if it doesnt workout you know you did everything you could. Can't is a term that is said at tge very end and I refuse to agree this is the end for you.
I hope you do man. Wish u the best.
Big W bro being alone is better anyway
About getting kids later in life: dad was 40, mom was 39 when I was born - mom died at 46, dad died at 65 (grandparents died way back in the 80s and early 90s). Being alone (or having no family left) in the world at the age of 25 isn't that nice.
Odds were good at least one of your parents would have lived into their 80’s. Life is not fair and it sucks; sorry for your loss.
My father died when I was 24, but my covert narcissist mother is still alive, kicking and excells at makes everyone around her miserable.
I'd say you're better off.
Man, hearing this reminded me how much time I wasted and how lucky I am for having my parents still alive. I am sorry for your loss. I know I would have been in deep trouble without my parents at 25.
They died pretty early. That sucks you got unlucky.
A woman dying at 46 is pretty rare, you`ll have to admit. My mom had me at 45 and she died at 82, so that`s 37 years. That`s much more common. Your mom could have had you at 19 and been gone by 26 also. Just the luck of the draw. Hang in there.
I find the one who wants an open relationship is usually already have something waiting on the assembly. You never hear the nerdy shy guy who has trouble with women offer that willingly.
31:50 "Push this bi*** down the stairs!" I literally sprayed the water I was drinking all over my desk out of laughter hahahahaha
i managed to hold mine lol
She said that with some righteous conviction lol. And I agree.
@@Inaire_FalenNo, no, DRINKING water!
I'll get a towel. 😂
“Once they ask you out on a date and you say No. That’s it”
If I want to play games I have a computer
I opened up to my stepmother once, one week later she threw it in my face
We attended family therapy, i mentioned this, that day it was thrown in ny face
I opened up to my first ex fiance, 2 weeks later she threw it in my face
I cried in front of my second fiance once, a week later she threw it in my face, another week later she cheated on me
Never again
I think you need to evaluate common personality traits all three of these women share and figure out which one
A lot of the time when stuff like this happens, it's because people keep going for the same type of person due to a subconscious
Sorta like how abused women keep getting into abusive relationships because it's a weird familiarity with the type of guy that ends up being abusive
@@Maxisamo1 it just modern women being toxic and nothing to do with biology.
Like depression is a serious matter. If these ladies doesn't care then society doesn't care
Glad I knew once bitten, twice shy. You had to go on a series of trials. That had to have been rough.
I hear you, sorry dude. I’ve had to navigate a lot to find trustworthy people, and theyre SO worth it, but the pain while seeking them was difficult. It’s so worth it, and you got so much life ahead. Please don’t give up. Consider Maxisamo’s comment, analyze the red flags youre missing… and start small. Confide a little and test. Open up a little more and test. Let a woman earn your trust, and you’ll have won much much.
@immortalwarrior2695 I'm saying HE'S going for the same women
Blaming every "modern" woman isn't going to solve his problem, he'll just be a miserable twat you're being, and likely end up single forever
Just to respond to the “men not being emotional” thing, it’s a survival mechanism. There are two reasons why this has always been pushed for men.
in the heat of a bad situation, such as being in a crisis or in a battle, you don’t have the time or energy to spare to act emotionally, you have to compartmentalize or you or your comrades will die.
The other is that emotions show weakness, and weakness in men will always be exploited by hostile parties, be it male or female.
It started off as an evolutionary thing, became pushed by society because war, and now we're in an awkward spot where the only encouragement NOT to act that way are a select few men and women that may or may not be your friends.
Women do like it when men are "emotionally vulnerable" but what that means is, like, opening up to them about your inner thought processes. Not openly weeping when something sad happens in a movie.
@chriswhinery925 Depends on the woman really. There are psychos that will give you crap for crying at your father's death, and then there's women that are perfectly fine with occasional private moments of weakness as long as you're able to hold it together when it matters.
Depends on the woman, but many women rely on the survival mechanism of showing off their pain (including their Ls) with the expectation that someone will come save them because that's traditionally been their best recourse in dangerous situations. Gets the attention of protective men. Men who never really grew up because they've been infantalized and mommied too much occasionally do the same, but it doesn't trigger the same instincts from a grown man than it does from a woman or child.
We can pretend these behaviors are the result of social pressure all we want, but almost any emotional reaction can be tied back to an instinct, a behavior built into genetics that's really difficult to change. That shit carries over from when we were living in caves for thousands of years ago and isn't so easy to overcome.
@@joshuawillingham6363 Sounds like we're on the same page completely. I basically agree with everything you just said. Each person is different and has different thresholds but the directional point I was making is just that being emotionally vulnerable with a woman in a reasonable, restrained way is seen by many of them as good because it shows you trust them, being a weepy mess for very little reason is seen by most of them as weakness. As with most things in interpersonal relationships it's a balancing act and you have to find the partner who's balance matches yours. If you're a super stoic dude who just never cries even at funerals, then the girl who would give a guy crap for crying at a funeral might just be a good fit. If you're a guy who's so emotional you openly weep when Bambi's mom gets shot, maybe consider testosterone replacement therapy. But you're right, all of it is instincts. The parts of your brain that in the back of your skull that evolved millions or even hundreds of millions of years ago are the parts that are really in charge of people's behavior, the newer frontal parts of the brain mostly just invent post hoc rationalizations for decisions that were already made subconsciously, that's how the human brain works.
I think over willing to show emotions you can have emotions or a "heart" but there are three or four hearts you or any other maintains, one in your mouth to show to the world, one in your chest to show only to your closest family and friends, and one deep within you only show to yourself- should be a fourth one for lovers unless all want to bang your cousin Jill or best friend Jim but I digress
16:20 There were some studies I read on this and yeah, humans need a reason to live. It's harder for men to do so since there's a tendency nowadays to dismiss the fatherly contribution to a family and so many government/religion based family support systems available *to the mother and child*. Oftentimes this support is only available if the father is dead or gone, so it can easily feel like there's no reason to live when you do the math and determine your family would be better off without you...
Also, if a man is left alone with his children (either the mom died or decided to go away), he receives no government support or the same amount of pity in the eyes of society like a single mom does.
@@luizbezerra4373 If it is true I am pretty sure that because in most cases mens have a better income.
@@ParlonsAstronomie that's irrelevant. Both parents should contribute to the care of their kids. If she earns less and he has custody, then she pays less in child support, but she needs to contribute financially to her own children!
@@ParlonsAstronomie It depends on the job field and how much time people put into the work. Several recent surveys on hourly pay discrepancies had things like women getting paid more per hour, but men working longer hours and earning more overall. Similar results were seen with salary pay, but I don't remember if it was higher bonuses to the men for working longer hours or something else that could still bump their pay to match or exceed equivalently skilled female coworkers.
@@KayronTheFifth Yep, so men are less likely to be financially helped after a break up.
That "no" thing is an annoying game many women love to play.
It's about testing if he is persistent enough, going along with other tests of that kind.
None of that is good.
Yet if the man fails to be attractive but is being persistent, he will be arrested for sexual harasment. I am not gambling with literally my life.
It ends up basically serving as a filter that makes sure whatever men get through don't respect boundaries.
@@misterbuck1242 the diference between being persistent and harasment is if the woman likes it lol . we just cant win man, the game is riged
@@trolleymouse but saying they like bad boys is toxic.
No means no, UNLESS it actually means yes.
My younger sister did that, a guy finally opned up to her and she was like ugh hes emotional now ew.
Its always f-ed up to me men arent allowed to show any emotion, they are human too.
I have all sisters and my rule is we can't even discuss things until the tears stop and you get yourself together, it's all good, you're fine girl, now use your words.
@@RobertMorgan that's a fine rule I guess, keeps people from shouting things in anger I guess
I'll need more details of HOW emotional he was, and what exactly he was opening up about
@@Maxisamo1 uh, sure , it was a long while ago now so my memory is a bit fuzzy but he went from acting all tough to actually talking about feeling sad and tearing up when being honest
And my sister, being the asshat she was to young to be with him anyway went ew man cry bad.
I think he just opened up about life and stuff, the fact he was going to move soon, life stuff, I don't know the exact details because I wasn't invested in their barely legal relationship
He was turning 18 when she was a few years younger or he was slightly older.
It was bad all around for two super immature people and he ended up going for a girl around his age when he moved which hurt my sisters feelings but I told her it was for the better between their age gap and just toxicness habits
So true, I've actually seen people in comments on something calling a man a possible predator who SA-d his own step daughter over the fact he was crying when hearing the lost of his newborn grandchild, it was absolutely disgusting seeing how some people immediately started saying he was some disgusting person just for crying
19:40 the issue, is that even a dog wont spite eat and silently hate you when they dont like the food. And never tell you until they break up with you after forcing an argument about something stupid just to give herself an excuse to blame you.
Ahhh, yes. The fairer secs that always demands "more communication"
I’ve never been in a relationship, and part of it is because I’m terrified of talking to women. It’s a combination of many factors, but most of it is me not wanting to come off as a creep. I realize that the vast majority of women don’t give af, and that I’m reading info out too much, but it’s still an irrational fear that’s been ingrained in me since birth.
Social media and my personal circumstances don’t help lol.
it's not so irrational anymore, when more and more women get their morals and ideologies from tiktok and twitter lmao
Take some mushrooms or LSD and evaluate yourself. Saved me from being extremely shy. Not that I will ask women out, but that is more about me being happy without relationship BS.
As a man who is in a relationship, I can understand what you are going through but no worries, men and women in the end of the day are human beings and come in different ways. There will nice, respectful and great men and women but there will terrible men and women as well. I'd advise practising social skills and growing self confidence as an individual that can help in life. Social media and personal circumstances can be tough but try to go after things that work for you personally. Wish you all the best. lol
@@DatAsianGuy Honestly, that's not just women, but also alot of men as well. Alot of people don't have independent minds anymore. They get brainwashed by nonsense by social media and then become raging idiots as people. lol. This is why i encourage people to think for themselves overall.
I get it my dude. I haven’t been in a relationship in 7 years now because of my last relationship and two dating experiences combined. It’s rough out here.
If a girl gave me that "its me or the PlayStation" i would choose my PlayStation. Games literally saved my life, and are my form of therapy. So yeah, no.
I would pick the PlayStation and I don't even play games haha
@@MrSqurk Computers are nice to tinker with for me, honestly.
Gosh, this turned into the "Women are psychopaths" highlights.
A lot of them are attracted to literal psychopaths too. Coincidentally, a lot of men are psychopathic as well. Let the nutcases live happily ever after (or kill eachother), I guess.
women get a catalog of men and get to choose from that catalogue, while men have to compete and work hard just to be a candidate for that catalogue! If a guy dates a girl who says she likes guys with tattoos, if he dont have any, he knows she will at very least cheat if not leave him for some guy with tattoos!
The fact that despite knowing this, woman call the man insicure for not wasting his time is a blatant display of how women rarely if ever take accountability for how they act, while men have no choice but going around fixing all that destruction ! And Yes men also break things but they also have to clean up after themselves!
Gestapo couldn't waterboard this kind of idiocy out of me.
22:25 It's not over the playstation, it's over the ultimatum. We do not negotiate with terrorists.
Unless they are on our online friends list while we play said PlayStation.
"We don't negotiate with terrorists." Not gonna lie, this left me giggling for a few minutes because of the context. XD
I’m too autistic to be able to decipher hints, so if someone wants something from me then they better tell it to me straight. I overthink a lot, so in my head the said hint could mean a plethora of different things, and I would be unable to know the correct answer.
Same. I thought i understood intent and hidden meanings but apparently i don't, so i just take everything at face value. So much easier on my head space.
I’m autistic too I’m just going to get angry if you say one thing and mean another.
I’m not going to decipher your bull shit and no one should have too.
Yes means yes and no means no.
My first and current relationship started when a girl I met again by sheer chance approached me very directly after a few weeks and basically said that she’s always liked me to varying degrees and wanted to try being in a relationship without bs’ing around. I’ve never respected anyone more than her for just getting straight to the point. We have a few significant differences but that foundation of honest communication has lasted us over two years and counting even though I have zero relationship experience.
@@rOvertJustice I hope it keeps working for you.
@@rOvertJustice Big comms W right there.
16:15 She's right, tho. We need things to do, and when we're tired or calm, we just want to chill and not think.
The one about ‘women never know what they want to eat’ is absolutely true. I have never, never been with a woman that has ever had answer for the question ‘what do you want to eat’ aside from ‘I dunno’.
I’ve been married for 17 years and I still have no clue what the hell my wife wants to eat!
Yep, if I asked my ex where she wanted to eat at the it was time for a pre-dinner nap
Yeah, I never know what I want to eat. It's some weird anxiety thing for me at least, like choosing one thing over another is going to end the world. Also because I'm just not that big of a food fan. Sometimes I wish food was optional
She and shoe are on the same wavelength. As a man, having a woman recognize that women are confusing af makes me feel a bit vindicated. This dating world is nuts.
Had an SO years ago that tryed to make me choose between her, and my diabetic cat.
She was out the door within the hour.
Why the problem with the cat?
@@Darkwintre
I'm not entirely sure if I'm honest.
Doesn't matter regardless.
Any bitch that thinks she can bully me into abandoning my fuzzy little guy is not worth the wasted oxygen it would take to call her an idiot.
@@Darkwintre Probably the care it needed. Buuuut, attention seekers hate fighting for attention.
Cats>women. As a man that loves cats I would never choose a woman over mine.
Based
Men have learned that even when women say they want you to express emotions, they don't really mean it, men get punished for expressing any emotions, we don't talk about our emotions for a reason.
What is sad is that we should be able to. But the old ways of life where "get a grip" was normal (something that is now known for being stupid) is still being used against us.
0:22 fellas is it gay to not want to f**king die?
Yeah. Super gay. You need to take all that gayness to the grave with you, bud. /s
Do they like being impaled?
Son, always remember: Dying is gay!
@@XurenChao I guess everyone will be gay some day
No, but dying is, indeed, very homosexual.
Im legit logging that double mini fridge idea 😂
Sleeping with a lot of people means that any sex that I could offer them wouldn't be special. It's the ultimate dopamine rush and not only is it incredibly diminished by the time I arrive, but that means that whatever I can offer--sexual or not--is not important. It also means that they're very adept at just cutting me off without a second thought, like I'm not special to them.
Btw doing an experiment with someone’s heart just to see you can do it is sociopathic behavior, and usually tracks to serial killers.
Yeah, only someone without a conscience can do all that.
Big fan of June (Shoe) here, and man, so happy to find a genuine reactor like you. Well done, Ms Moogle :D
13:09 That's not insecurity, that's just refusing to deal with disrespect. You can LIKE whatever you want. You can have a type. SHARING that information (especially publicly) when the description CLEARLY excludes the person you're CURRENTLY in a relationship with, makes it sound like you're:
- not acknowledging the relationship,
- you're pitying/shaming the person you're in the relationship with for NOT meeting those standards, OR
- you're looking to replace the person you're in the relationship with for someone who DOES fit this criteria.
Don't believe me ladies? Picture this: you're out to dinner with your bf/husband and a group of mutual friends, and the question's asked to HIM, and his response is, "Typically...? I'm attracted to women who are in shape."
Now which female here is gonna lie and say she wouldn't be offended by that?
That's what I thought. And even when it's a couple of fairly based females reacting here; "normal women," and neither of them even stopped for a second to see that from the other person's POV. There's a woman (Amanitalks was her name IIRC) who made a video a couple weeks ago about her bf who by her own words "exceeded her expectations" of what a guy should do in a relationship, where he supported her financially, didn't cheat on her, how much she loved him, etc. but once she was on her feet, she broke up with him anyway. The women in her comments were giving her all this positive affirmation BS about how she deserved to be happy, she was better off without him, blah, blah, blah. So a completely DIFFERENT guy, took that whole story and repeated it WORD FOR WORD, but swapped the genders making it sound like this was HIS story about why HE broke up with HIS gf, and posted it with no context or link to her original story, and it blew TF up. Women calling him disgusting and all this other stuff - even though he was telling the EXACT SAME STORY she did. But hey, let's talk about how much more "emotionally intelligent" and morally superior women are, right?
THANK YOU!
Even if she doesn't act on those posts and ditch her guy to find what she wants (or start pressuring the guy she is with to start looking/acting more like her type), for a guy who cares there's always going to be those lingering doubts in knowing that what your girl likes isn't you. Especially when she's posting about it on social media.
Seems like Shoe and every other woman who's reacted to this conflate simply having a type/preference with posting publicly about it, but as you point out it's not the same at all.
I was looking for this comment yes this is more a L on the girls side not the guy since talking about someone else she likes basically signals the guy she is dating is most likely not her type and is still looking for her type. You can chalk it up to dating preferences but I see it as being disrespectful. No guy is going to talk about his dating preferences online while dating a girl who doesn't show those preferences.
16:48 this is why some guys don't take no for an answer they dated a woman like that early in life and now think that all women are like that
My wife, although not as extreme, had done something along these lines to me twice.
1) explicitly told me not to get her a valentine's gift, and then got mad that I didn't get her one
2) while on holiday in November, commented that my man's razor was much better than hers. For Christmas that year I made her up a gift hamper with a little basket and bow and everything. In it was her favourite expensive perfume, the gift that she had asked for, and a (new) man's razor of the same kind I use. She flipped out because I got her a man's razor. Ignoring that I also got her her favourite perfume on top of the gift she asked for...
I still don't understand why, or how it is any different from buying her a toiletries set.
Oh dude I'm also confused. I hope things are still OK overall.
@@Dipperdog_RPGirl yeah, these were both many years ago now. But thanks.
It's not about the Playstation, it's about her disrespecting him, his boundaries and the things he likes.
Imagine if your husband told you he's leaving if you don't delete your social media. You'd be on that social media the very same day crying about what a controlling D-bag he is!
Hallmark has ruined relationships
Don't bring them into this :). More like Twilight and stuff
And Women wonder why we're avoiding them now. It's easier to be single, much less dramatic, and not nearly as expensive. Love your reactions to these, had me laughing pretty hard, so thanks for that! :) Needed a good laugh. As for cheaters, they are.. disgusting. I've been cheated on, but never has it crossed my mind to do the same. And oh wow so much of this is INSANE!
6:00 100%. You’re not just lying to us but to yourself too. And when you not only use make up but surgery too and then still have the audacity to look for a good looking man because “I care what my children will look like” then stop being hypocrite. Some men wake up to their wildest nightmares the next day after marriage.
The elephant in the room is that every women wants to meet a man who will do things the exact, precise way she wants him to do it - without any communication from her of what she wants - and with no acknowledgment that what she wants may be wildly different from what the next woman wants. And then when the guy fails to answer this riddle, she complains to all her girlfriends about where have all the good men have gone. Ladies...TALK TO YOUR MEN, even the prospective ones. Just be upfront with them, I beg of you.
9:10 Triple digits proves you will not think highly of anything intimate with anyone.
I'm old enough to remember when men and women agreed that it was gross for men to sleep around that much., and that it was a bad sign for the chances of a relationship with him to work out. Fathers would run those sorts of guys off when their daughters tried to bring them home, back in the days when children still had fathers, and the mothers would back them up on it. Sleeping around that much might have gotten a guy a few high-fives at a frat party or something back in the day, and it would have certainly been common rock-star or sheik fantasy material, but it generally wasn't considered a positive trait by most men or women for guys to sleep around with nearly a hundred women or more.
I don't get the impression that has changed very much - seems like the only thing considered more disgusting than a guy who sleeps around is a guy who doesn't have sex at all today - but for women, among women, sleeping around that much went from being negative to somewhere between the "new normal" and "stunning and brave", and it's forbidden to criticize it in women, but not in men.
I kind of miss the old days! They weren't perfect, but they made a hell of a lot more sense.....
I've started to wonder if she counts "re-plays" in that number.
16:04 shes kind of right about this, if they are a decent guy then chances are good he wants to feel useful and appreciated. I would argue most people want to feel that way. There is no worse feeling then being in a relationship where your partner makes you feel like an anchor and ignores anything good you do for them.. trust me, I've been there done that, it's not a good time.
It doesn't even need to much, a small thank you or acknowledgement of a good deed goes a huge way in any friendship or relationship. I know guys who hold onto memories of that one time they got a compliment 10 years ago like it is the most cherished memory in their life because it happens so rarely.
6:30 So, you might say that a guy should be totally fine showing their emotions... but remember what you just read from the woman on screen: She wanted the guy to show emotion too... until the guy showed emotion and then turned her completely off.
That happens more than you think.
Guys showing emotion, hell... guys showing any vulnerability... can turn some girls off.
And more often than not, some girls will actually weaponize that vulnerability to make the guy feel like shit in tense situations.
The "me or the playstation" chick is a type I've seen before with my friends. They want them to throw away everything they're interest in, and abandon their friends, so she become their sole interest and wants them to be utterly obedient. In those cases, it eventually turned into "see ya toots" and we got our friend back. Women, if you want a guy to replace his personality with you and nothing else, you're a psycho. If you can't deal with him having friends and hobbies, that's absusive.
"It's me or the thing you use for entertainment so you can decompress after work!"
Yea, no. I won't take the abuse of my leisure and personal time. Better to get rid of her instead of dealing with someone who would lower my quality of life for no reason.
The sad thing is, if she was able to help her BF/husband relax and feel welcome at home. He likely wouldn't of been on his Play Station nearly as often but instead with her.
There is technically a "prequel" to this video if you want to call it that way. It's the one on the male loneliness epidemic, highly recommend!
Welcome to Shoeonhead and the rabbit hole that is her content and if you want a laugh and be mentally scared at the same time then you have come to the right place
I tried to tell this to a friend of mine. If you open your relationship up to other people. Don't be shocked if they get attached to the other person. You're only opening it up because it got stale. It got stale cause there was something wrong. You may not like fixing what's wrong but its better than giving your partner an option to fall in love with someone else. They didn't listen and became this "Oh we're an open relationship couple!" and two weeks later she was crying on her couch cause he moved all his stuff out while she was at work to teh other girls place.
"she makes it sounds like guys are wild animals" have you met us? Lol love the vid
The moment a Vtuber is MAKING MORE SENSE that people that ARE NOT VTUBERS. That's it... society DESERVES to collapse.
We gotta collapse it ourselves. Hell is coming to earth and it is our God-given mission to deliver
@@BlooMonkiMan blood for the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull Throne.
@@BlooMonkiMan I mean, learning chemistry has never been so unfun, might aswell quit using it for good.
ILL USE IT FOR EVIL.
@@secretname2670 "I will be joining the war on drugs on the side of the drugs"
- Maxor
Huh, well if this ain't a "worlds colliding" moment for me.
Powerman 5000?
I've dealt with so many people throughout my life that would play mind games to the point I make it next to impossible for people to get close to me so I can figure out what their real intentions are. I am not wasting anymore time with people that don't know what they want or hide their intentions.
Explaining popular expressions (even if they seem obvious) is not only good for our fellow bummers, but also for your international viewers, anyone can quickly get an answer by different means, but getting it in-video is always welcomed.
It's funny how many people think polyrelationships can work out, they're accidents waiting to happen once the denial runs out.
Shoe actually did do two "prequels" about this subject.
One about the epidemic of male loneliness and another asking the question 'are the men okay?'
It get's darker in the last one she did about the rise of AI and its impact on the dating market and the further downward spiral of male mental health.
It's depressing stuff but worth a watch. If nothing else but to get more of an understanding of how dismal life can easily be for men nowadays.
And maybe, if one happens to be one of the women who are part of the problem, it'll serve as a wake up call to maybe not be such a raging a**hole.
Or if you're the other brand of well-meaning a**hole who's answer to everything is "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" or some platitude like "there's someone for everyone".
Neither sentiment having any basis in reality whatsoever beyond serving as a way to deny responsibility or involvement in someone elses plight.
I'm of course not saying that you, or anyone reading this, is any of those types of walking bungholes.
Just that they're out there and they're plentiful.
Funny part is the "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" quote is mangled. The initial quote shows why trying to do that is stupid. You cannot do it.
The there's someone for everyone think. It's a Shakey topic
25:40 no Dipper this wasn’t a win for the guy this was a HUGE betrayal by both he’s partner and his parent. Not only will he never trust new women in his life (assuming he’ll want new women anymore) but he’ll never trust his father again because of this.
honestly i was thinking about that after the editing was done and I was walking my dog. I was like "wait that dad screwed up!"
Ayep. That father may as well forget he has a son, coz if it's up to the lad, his grave ain't getting any flowers...
@@DinnerForkTongue it might get a lot of fertilizer, though
Girls: *posting their L:s online*
Simon Whistler: "Rule number 1 on the Casual Criminalist; DON'T WRITE DOWN YOUR CRIMES!"
I see you are an individual of culture, as well.
To be fair one of the girls I dated for 4 years knew that I was a gamer I had game night with my buddies once a week and then it got cut down to once every other week which she was fine with for the first year and a half we would always do things on every other day together and we'd even go to her family's house. I would game on my days off but I would make sure to do all the household things I needed to do first I cooked all the meals in the house and I helped clean, I didn't complain about going to her family's house I didn't complain about spending time with her I didn't complain when she wanted to do girls night and go out and get drunk but I guess me playing video games and enjoying them was too much and she told me either I stopped gaming and going to game night or she was done with the relationship I kicked her out the next day
Good choice, especially if you had already cut down gaming for her and made sure everything important was done before you did any gaming. You've already made compromises for your relationship, and if she expects even more out of you (and offering nothing in return; sounds like she wasn't going to cut down on family or girl night time) then it's clear she doesn't care for your happiness, and it's fair to dip out.
I remember the story of miss "14 year marriage torpedo." She wrote the article like an old school romance novel.
As for open marriage story, they only end one of two ways: they leave, or they meet someone else.
29:40 With all of my friends that had open or polyam relationships, it wasn't just that they all ended, but each one crashed and burned in the worst way possible.
Rule of thumb: if your partner suggests having an open relationship when they know that you're committed to just them, they're either already cheating on you or planning to do it, and they want your permission to do it more.
It's happened way too many times where the relationship falls apart because the committed partner found someone else who's just as monogamous as they are and they split up, or their partner runs off with the person outside of the relationship - it never ends well if neither partner is polyamorous or into getting cucked when they get together.
I don't know how many of them ended up like the example in the video, but I just find situations like that funny.
"You opened up the relationship, thus inviting/permitting your partner to try out others... and you expected him/her to remain faithful to you? This is pretty much all on you."
Pretty much have never seen a "happy" poly relationship before.
The one about a real man would stay with you even if you cheat to help make you a better person made my brain hurt. The amount of non-accountability and gaslighting had me flabbergasted 😂
YES. It's closely akin to the comment from the woman who deemed the babies she conceives with another man to be her husband's responsibility somehow - and these are usually the same women who will not date single fathers, and would never tolerate a man cheating on her. The lack of responsibility is bad enough, but the hypocrisy that comes with it adds insult to the injury....
Mind games definitely huge problem for communication and stable relationships. It's a trust issue too, how can you build trust when you're meant to arbitrarily just know when they're lying to you. That's not on the person who takes your word at face value because they trust you mean what you say.
With the tattoo girl, I think the issue with both men and women like her when they interact with people outside that specific demographic is they make their entire life and personality about this one trait and activity they do. If you replace 'tattoo culture' with anything else, it's not hard to see how being hyperfocused on this one thing can become a turnoff for people who want to connect in other ways.
Honestly, i applaud for making such a well thought out and smart comment like this pointing that out. Mind games in general are a terrible thing and should be avoided entirely from both sides obviously. Honesty, truth, open mindedness, and being straightforward with what you want with no form of manipulation or lies is a great to have and can be the most important part of a relationship that keep it stable.
Also when it comes to the tattoo girl, i get your point very well. The problem is alot of people like that base their personality and preferences based on one trait instead of expanding and developing your personality with different traits. Being hyper-focused on one thing can definitely be a turn off and i would recommend people to have several interests that define themselves and can help them connect with several men and women out there. I personally love tattoos in general but was never hyper-focused or obsessed with them since i am a man with variety of interests and the more diverse interests you have and the more activities you do, you are more likely to have communication and connections with people of different types. This creates more options for friendships and dating etc.
Some of these are like "Girl... please go to therapy." then you have moments at 19:00 where I start ranting again at "TALK TO EACH OTHER. COMMUNICATION IS SO EASY. JUST FREAKING TALK TO EACH OTHER!!! HEALTHY COMMUNICATION! OH. MY. GOD. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
That guy one hundred percent knew his playstation longer.
18:44 My problem is not with indecisiveness, what I have a problem with is when I ask "how about here?" and after the food has been paid for and eaten I hear "I really would've preferred this instead." If you can't make up your own mind, don't complain about what is offered, nuff said.
I like Shoe's content. It definitely fits Dipper's taste in humor.
As someone who left the dumpster fire the dating scene became years ago Shoe's humor helps with the tears.
I cant stop laughing over all the freaking gasps like it's a plot twist in a telenovela...
For the "me or the playstation" bit just remember fellas, it's better to have a console than to only have a controller.
So you mean that man not only has a tv stand but he has immediate access to two different refrigerators of chilled snacks and drinks.
The bit about the open marriage: If your relationship becomes exclusive, do not try to open it back up again at any point. You either start your relationship open and keep it open .. or you maintain monogamy. You can't mix and match. Rarely, if _ever,_ ends well.
29:13 Yeah, open marriages never work. Marriage is a commitment to each other, and once you open the door to let others in, you have broken that commitment. It's not a matter of if it will fail, but when.
23:16 Something I think people miss in this clip is the girl actually says something pretty self aware, she says the guys she's attracted to not just guys in general. She's admitting that she gets interest from guys but it's not the guys she wants.
Oh they get that. They get that she has enough people pining after her that she's in a position to get picky. That's something men just aren't afforded.
Yes, you are right about that. She is specifically talking about the guys that she's attracted to and not just guys in general, because she has plenty of options and she can be picky if she wants to. Although, they naturally tend to have this and this is why Men should create more options with women when choosing the women they want. Having an abundance mindset helps.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy True, they do but that's why men should be creating more options. It can be tough for alot of men for sure but if you choose with your own standards, you have better chances of getting the women you want.
Why is nobody talking about the fact the guys she is interested in has a wife.
@@helloalty2138 Benefit of the doubt, I'm making the assumption that she sees a guy she's interested in then sometime after be it just after the initial attraction or a few friendly greetings or conversations sees that he's attached. Of course I can be wrong and she could be seeing a guy together with his girl and lustful greed fills her heart but I like to assume people are at least slightly good.
And this is why I'm basically a hermit now, women and men scare me. Its honestly just crazy to see how some of the things people post about.
I'll agree that for some people, both men and women, abusive relationships ARE preferable to being alone. That's why some fans simp for yanderes. 'At least they care about me. Not for my well being but... they just acknowledge that I exist and think about me at least once a day. Thats nice.'