Nightwish - Ever Dream - End of an Era | Performance Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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Today we're listening to my favorite Nightwish song, Ever Dream, but this time Tarja version! Will I like this as much as I know the one that I'm familiar with? 🤔
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One of the things I like most about this version is Marco singing along with Tarja the last part, in the chorus. Their voices have always complemented each other very well.
Yeah I really like them together as well! 💫🎵
For me I love this version because Tarja conveys the emotion behind the lyrics and of course the combination of Marko and Tarja's amazing vocals always creates magic!!!
she was the target of the song and nothing innocent about it. Tarja married Marcello in 2002.
Nothing about a would be homewrecker is cute or sweet.
@@Boa_Omega I wonder if you read more into the lyrics, are you sure Tuomas was trying to be a homewrecker. I take the meaning as a secret longing kinda like a secret crush. Anyway it was a beautiful performance and Tarja and Marko sound amazing together
Best version ever !
Golden era
I´ve always thought that the reason Tuomas cried during the intro of Ever Dream, was because he knew it was the last time Tarja would ever sing his song to her.
End of an Era is very very special for old school fans, very touching. Just an amazing live show.
Btw I love your videos, you´re so cute ♥
How cute - a crying rat 🐀
@@larryzigler6812 you might think that if you want.them to stick around you shouldn't have brought brought out the cutlery?!? 🔪
I have listened both Tarja's and Floor's singing this song very, very many times. I can't say if other is better than one. Floor gives me floorgasms, but Tarja makes me cry. And as an old fan, there is strong nostalgic factor as well when I listen to Tarja singing these oldies. Great analysing and review as always. Greetings from Finland.
I enjoy Tarja's voice a lot on Nightwish songs, it's both a beautiful contrast to the metal as well as a powerful part of the symphonic elements ❣ A one of a kind kind of sound
Thank you!! Ever Dream is a great song, and so beautiful! I love this song.
Ever Dream is also one of those Nightwish songs that Tarja still sings in her solo concerts every now and then.
Oh well that's cool. 😊 I have to dig deeper into the Nightwish history, I know something happened but I forget what exactly - I didn't know if there was bad blood between her and the band or not.
@nikkireviews Basically, the reason why everything went wrong between the band and Tarja, is miscommunication. It was all fueled with bad management from both sides. It's a lot of he said she said but I think the truth lies somewhere between what Tarja has said and what Tuomas and the band has said. We still don’t know exactly what happened, but after all, that's their business.
Tarja was fired with an open letter after this concert....which is not a very good way to fire someone. Tarja basically found out that she was fired at the same time as the rest of the world found out.
But yeah, things didn't go down well with them. However, that's all in the past. It seems that both sides have accepted that they both did wrong things and have moved on. Marko apologised from Tarja in 2017 and they are friends again. (And their tour together is starting soon) With the rest of the band Tarja hasn't really been in contact except for occasional emails with Tuomas about business things. And with Floor Tarja is friends and apparently they keep in touch every once in a while.
Oh wow, thank you for explaining it all to me. Yeah, definitely not the best way to fire someone. 😕 So they all knew this was coming but her during this show? 😬
@@nikkireviews Yes, everyone in the band knew except Tarja. And you're welcome!
@@nikkireviews End of an Era is such a bittersweet experience. Such an amazing concert, but that has this shadow that hangs over it. As a result some song lyrics take on additional meaning.
For Years Tarja had expressed her interest in starting a family with her new husband and doing some solo work, but Tuomas seemingly want to have undue control of her life.
Whether he was actually romantically in love with her or just the idea of her (a muse or love of her musical potential) is speculated by fans, but what's obvious is that her voice is unique and she would not easily be replaced. Publically firing her with the open letter was brutal.
The second female lead vocalist (Anette Olson) was not a good fit for the legacy songs, so the band transitioned to a more mainstream sound, which brought them commercial success, but it didn't feel like the same band anymore.
Anyway, when Floor was brought into the band, she was able to breathe life back into the legacy songs, but also perform all the Anette-era songs without issue. She is a great fit for the band. And when Floor decided to have baby and do some solo work Tuomas didn't fire her in an open letter. Perhaps that is acknowledgement that he learnt from the terrible way that he treated Tarja twenty years ago.
As a fan back in 2005, the way things went down was a huge shock, heartbreaking & so disappointing. I lost interest in the band for a few years after that, but a few years ago I started revisiting that great music, and Floor does a great job with most of the old songs as well....
And then Marko left...
This song was made by and for her.
This is definitely one of my favorites of all NightWish that you have reacted to.
Great reaction Nikki!
I'm glad you liked it! Thank you! 😊💛
I love Marko's part too. Regardless if it's Tarja, Floor, or Anette, Marko's vocals are what make this song for me.
Next at this concert is "The Kinslayer", which you heard the version from Buenos Aires 2018.
Disagree
Jukka Marko Tarka 🖤🖤🖤 old Nightwish. More operatic and more metal. This concert was amazing from start to end
Tarja is GODDESS
For those of you who keep making comparisons, Tarja was only 19 years old when the band and the concept of symphonic metal emerged at his first event with the band he didn't have appropriate clothes and bought leather clothes in a sex shop
Tuomas love song for Tarja. There is a lot of story behind that, Tuomas and Tarja knew each other since the age of 12, same town and school. When Tuomas wanted to form a band he was going towards folk/acoustic with female vocals. Tuomas knocked on Tarja's door and asked her if she wanted to join the band, she agreed. When they were rehearsing and Tarja sang, the guys were shocked of how powerful and dramatic her voice was so he changed direction and that's how Nightwish was born from Tarja's voice otherwise there would have not been a Nightwish. This band was known and were recognized by the their unique sound, mixing metal/opera and the Nightwish back then was true symphonic metal, not to mention Tarja's unique voice that separated her from the rest and the typical generic voice. People noticed this band not only for the music but because of Tarja's presence and face of Nightwish. People forget where it all started, if it wasn't for her voice this band wouldn't have existed, Nightwish with Tarja is the original sound of Nightwish and what they were known and recognized for, was magical. There are no love songs written after Tarja, all the popular songs including *Ghost Love Score* were originally written in Tarja's era for her voice, later was reconstructed to fit other singers voice. There are many interviews with things Tuomas said that no one paid attention to, documentaries and body language which you can't fake, shows that Tuomas had feelings for Tarja. Again love songs was only written in her era, and Ghost Love Score Tarja's live version which people miss is the ending is different but the original live and if you put the subtitles you will hear the words that the choir is singing and it says a lot and that gets missed in other versions. In a live interview Tuomas said about Tarja *Tarja is the best Interpeture of my music and feelings* Many agree and many may disagree but you can't fake emotions and body language, if you see pictures and interviews you see it in Tuomas eyes, can't fake love. I have been listening to Nightwish since the late 90's. This band has a lot of amazing hidden gem of songs, including when they were younger "baby Nightwish" and they still sounded amazing with young Tarja and her powerful voice. Thank you for reacting to Tarja, I hope you will do more reactions on the original Nightwish songs and some older ones, you won't be disappointed, it's where it all began. You will like these, baby Nightwish below.
*TARJA TURUNEN & TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN (1994) HD* in school ruclips.net/video/mNRahGTlE6s/видео.html
*Nightwish: Gethsemane (HQ) (live on TV 1999)* ruclips.net/video/4Binso-m5eA/видео.html
*Nightwish: Sacrament of Wilderness (HQ) (live on TV 1999)*ruclips.net/video/lAkVHKnln60/видео.html
Just like yourself Nikki, I discovered Nightwish with Floor as their lead vocalist. The Wacken 2013 live version of this song with Floor, I really really love. I was thinking to myself that if I had heard this version first, I believe I would have loved this version quite a bit initially and then the Wacken performance wouldn't have had as much an impact. Both versions are outstanding and I only give this version an ever so slightly better tag just because I know the song was written for Tarja and her vocal performance , I believe, reflects how Tuomas meant for it to be sung. Nonetheless, a great song performed immaculately by both Tarja and Floor. Like yourself Nikki, I now will vow to never compare Tarja and Floor head to head. Only point out differences in styles. We're just blessed to be living in a time where we can be entertained by both.
🤘🤘 Love the big beautiful smile!
It's just so good! 😁🎵
I'm definitely a Floor fanatic through and through. With only a few exceptions where I am so in love with Tarja's rendition that I still like End of an Era best. And this is one of them. "Sleeping Sun" is the other one. And digging back a little deeper into the From Wishes To Eternity concert, I like Tarja's "Deep, Silent, Complete" the best.
this song in this show was spectacular I recommend you watch Beauty of the Beast, a masterpiece
You will notice through this concert that the color of her microphone and stand always matches Tarja's outfit. That was her signature style.
No era solo el estilo es la marca artística de Tarja y actualmente lo sigue haciendo combinar su micrófono con sus atuendos y aún se sigue cambiando varias veces en un concierto es un sello característico de Tarja
Fantastic concert, they were so theatrical in "those" days.
ALL hale the REAL TRUE QUEEN 👑 OF NIGHTWISH AND OF ALL FEMALE SYMPHONIC METAL SINGERS!!!, the very beautiful looking and very unique voice of the enchanting TARJA!!!😀🤟🤟
Hi Nikki, greetings from UK
Yes, this is a great version
The ending differs in this version, Marko sings most parts with Tarja unlike the newer versions where Floor belted most of it and Marko belted "dream of me" only. Personally I hear the storytelling more in the newer versions
I do love the innocence of asking someone "Do you ever dream of me?", and also saying "come out, come out wherever you are"
More Nightwish feat Tarja please !
I'm doing the whole End of an Era show (new video every Wednesday, Nightwish Wednesday 😉), so more to come!
@@nikkireviews LOVE YOU, NEW FOLLOWER
In this song we can see that Thomas realized he messed up everything...
Kiitos.
A song written for Tarja and Tuomas feelings hidden behind the lyrics.Playing this song he realized that he would make the biggest mistake ever.An emotional Tarja with a magical performance❤Her song forever❤
Y Tarja la sigue cantando 😌
Yeah, I also still wait for the Nightwish song I don't like. It just all depends on my daily mood.
About that moment with Tuomas right before the song kicks in: Since you're familiar with the story of the open letter, that was about to happen right after this concert, you might see several similar moments during the set. And maybe it helps, if you watch the short documentary "A day before tomorrow" about the last two weeks of that tour, to see how Tuomas felt about the situation and the near future.
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@@nikkireviews So qute 🥰
Loved it in 2005. Then came Floor and loved it more🤷
It's an amazing song. 💫
Yo prefiero la versión original 😌
You are correct: Nightwish has no pee songs! 😆 You just have to restrict liquid intake before the concert. 😉
Tarja's songs sounds better with Tarja, the real symphonic metal goddess.
Hi Nikki thanks for doing these reviews. Whilst I think Floor is a great singer for me Tarja was Nightwish full stop. I just find that her voice touches the soul.
To expand the Nightwish jorney more, I request that at some point you also react to the From wishes to eternity - live (2000), Tarja's era as well, with original line-up. It's their 1st offical live dvd..every singer has their moments where they shine, although I like Floor is the best!
Wishwes to eternity is a full energy concert my favorite without the shadow of the open letter and some amazing ballads in it.Deep silent complete is the best for me from this concert.Tarja sings like a siren.Better than the studio version.Also the next song of the End of an era Kinslayer is more powerfull wild and heavier there😊
Wishes
Floor is great with most of the legacy songs. She can easily perform any of the Anette-Era songs, but when it comes to songs from the Tarja-era things are a bit more complicated.
Some songs were created with Tarja's voice in mind. Tarja's voice when singing high notes has a richer tonal quality (creates more frequencies around the note that she sings) and this is very noticeable when the song demands an operatic style. By analogy, Tarja's voice is more like a section of an orchestra with different instruments playing the same note at the same time. While on paper Floor can sing the same note, Floor's voice when she sings in the operatic style is like single instrument playing the note. I believe the technical term for this is Timbre (or vocal "color"). So Timbre is the fundamental difference between their voices, with Tarja's voice being a fuller sound when singing high notes.
Stylistically Tarja is very operatic and incorporates strong vibrato, whereas Floor has a more mainstream rock vocal, but is obviously capable of hitting high notes when singing in a classical style, but vibrato is less pronounced or completely absent. A technical aspect in favor of Floor is her pronunciation of the English lyrics, which is also very palatable to American audiences, whereas Tarja's pronunciation during live performances is occasionally with a very strong accent, and the inconsistency can be noticeable. English was not Tarja's first or second language, so her pronunciation was always driven by her European roots.
Anyway, Floor is a great performer for 95% of the Nightwish catalogue of songs. The notable exceptions in my humble opinion are:
*Gethsemane* - Floor changes lyrics and her operatic switch sounds incongruent and flat. You have to listen to the Studio album to hear the song performed properly
*The Siren* - Floor is no real substitute for Tarja as this was tailor-made for Tarja's voice and style
*The Phantom of the Opera* - The vocal chemistry between Tarja & Marko at End of an Era is pure magic (also Marko sings the correct lyrics for The Phantom) Tarja's approach in this song elevates it above typical classical performances as her voice is rich and she expertly uses vibrato. Marko and Tarja put the "Phantom" and "Opera" in "The Phantom of the Opera"
*Sleeping Sun* - A song that was tailor-made for Tarja's voice and operatic style
Nemo - Nemo is a tragic song so Floor's triumphant tone (music theater kid bursting into song) while belting of lyrics at the end of the song are incongruent with the emotion that the lyrics evoke. So Tarja's darker tone is the correct emotional interpretation IMHO.
*Stargazers* - Floor sings in a lower key; it's just not the same.
Anyway, thank you for reading this long comment.
I'm sorry but Tarja or any other band singer humiliates Floor very badly
I Agree. Floor's classical vocals sound very flat, that's how mostly self-taught singers sing. It also prevents her from singing more complex operatic arias. Tarja studied to be a classical singer, naturally her timbre is more beautiful, bright and versatile.
Only to say Tarja studied German Lied singing. A form of Chamber music for a theatre. Centuries before amplification was a thing. Singers had to project their voices to the back walls. paneling bounced it back to the audience.
Then they had to sing between the back up chorus and the orchestra keeping time with the swings in tempo and pitch of the song. That indeed takes practice, especially as to not injure yourself.
Many singers blew out their voices pushing what must not be pushed trying to create power and volume when they are not in a place where there muscles are relaxed but tensed up.Watch how Tarja relaxes her jaw and pulls away the mic when she belts. How she shows her teeth. Her entire body is wide open and she uses her body to build a foundation on which to build up power.
Yes to vibrato and legato in her voice. Tarja has a master's degree (5 years) in Music.
Now two things, Tarja is 5 years older than Floor and was on tour for Century Child when they 1st met. So yes an 18 year old Floor was star struck meeting Tarja and NW then.
Floor had started her 1st band's gig as frontwoman and invited to be the opening act in Europe that Summer. A huge milestone for the band.
Floor and Tarja became friends and the drama had nothing to do with Floor. She remains friends with everybody.
Tarja far from being upset that She wanted to join the old bandmates and replace Anette gave her private, then public support.
On stage at Female Voices of Metal Fest 9, 2012 They sang Over the hills together .
Then announced Floor had a new project/band and called for "No hate, Only love." You don't get more class than that.
Setting Floor up for every chance at success.
Yes that rural Finnish Kittee accent is thick even inside Finland. Think NE England or Tennessee USA. That nasal twang you know in a heartbeat, or cajun french influenced from Louisiana.
How do you think it sounds singing songs in languages other than English?
Its part of diversity that IS a wonderful thing.
80% of Finns can speak some English.
Tarja in fact is fluent in 5. Including Finnish, English, German and Spanish. passable in a few others.
I only have English.
@@AhsokaTanoTantiveIV what an absurd comment 👏
@@alexr8817Tarja tiene la voz trabajada para ser cantante clásica de cámara en pocas palabras cantante de teatro muciscal es lo que le diferencia totalmente a Floor ya que Floor posee amplia la voz pero no es potencia total como la versátil tono y colocatura de voz como la de Tarja , en pocas palabras ambas son versátiles pero Tarja esas teatral y Floor más tradicional como Adele o Madonna
This is the original version and others are copy. Then most emotional live...we know the band history "all that one needs".
I ever dream of TARJA . GODDESS QUEEN SIREN MUSE, my passion -FOEVEVER MORE
This song, Tuomas wrote about his secret feelings for TARJA.
Also can't wait "Ghost love score"...
still want that solo without the toxicity of the band involved. But again Tuomas showing his obsession w his married co star and did not want it to happen.
Nothing romantic about it.
Stalker vibes.
@@Boa_Omegaeso mismo fue lo que obligó a Tarja que renunciará el acoso excesivo de Tuomas cuando ya ella estaba casada , esas letras escritas para ella de seducción y placer y que luego ella la tenía que cantar era difícil de asimilar para Tarja teniendo al marido cerca , todavía recuerdo la entrevista a Marcelo donde dijo que todo bien con Tuomas pero que no se propase , cuanto aguantaron ambos al pianista verdadero Fantasma de la Ópera , la respuesta de Tarja en Diva le dice te casaste con tu mente , Tuomas encarnó al Fantasma de la Ópera con su musa Tarja!!! De la fantasía lo trajo a la realidad y destruyó su banda 😔
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I'll write a not popular version for new fans of band. Thing is that Tuomas wrote a lot of love songs and 90% of all these songs were written in first 10 years with Tarja in lineup. Also Tuomas and Tarja always put their emotions on paper and turned them into beautiful songs. You Nikki, as I see you like to delve into lyrics and it might be interesting to dig into this topic. Relationship between Tuomas and Tarja can be judged mostly by circumstantial evidence. One of circumstantial evidences is band's artwork itself. Most of Nightwish's lyrics, from Angels fall first to Imaginarium, tell us about the development of a relationship with the object of their adoration. We can categorize work into three stages of the relationship: Angels fall first, Oceanborn and Wishmaster are lyrics about falling in love, lust and passion, Century child and Once are about jealousy and confusion and alienation, and finally Dark Pasion Play is about pain, separation and acceptance. First stage covers time of youth and adolescence - meeting, school (Tarja and Tuomas went to same school and have known each other since childhood), forming band, and up to 2000. Second phase is from 2000 until Tarja's dismissal (during this period Tarja met her future husband and got married) and third phase after Tarja's dismissal. And to further understand point, you need to delve into lyrics of relationship songs.
Glad I'm not alone with my thoughts. I would say that back in the days probably half of the Nightwish fans thought these songs were about (or at least inspired by) Tarja...and many non Nightwish fans too (here in Finland).
@@NightwishArena I would believe that these songs are not about Tarja if it weren't for one thing. Compare all events happening in Tuomas and Tarja's life with lyrics of songs in same time period. And it immediately becomes clear who song Slaying the Dreamer and other songs are about. Also check out some interviews from that time, they reveal a lot. I have one question. Do they call Tarja a nightingale in Finland?
P.S. You have a great channel.
In 2000 she was molested on stage, the band played on, they finished the concert and afterwards left her in the hands of a relative stranger who would become her manager/husband. Great chemistry.
@@Columbasta I think this moment was fatal mistake for maestro.
@@NightwishArenaen realidad cuando profundizas las letras te das cuenta muy rápidamente que los primeros 5 álbumes tiene un destinatario especial la Musa Tarja Turunen porque creen que Tuomas llegó hasta el suicidio musical El poeta y el Péndulo 😏 además muuuuuchas canciones de Nightwish tuvieron respuesta de parte de Tarja como cantante solista basta con estudiar las letras de ambos y verán similitudes y preguntas con respuestas 😌
I still feel upset that Tarja was sacked from Nightwish and this was her last performance 😢. Much as I adore Floor and her vocals I still feel a lot for Tarja, and I’m glad that Marko and her settled their differences.
I think that this song was about his feelings for Tarja and perhaps his feeling bad about letting her go. It’s a great song and Floor really makes a good job of it but for me it’s still Tarja’s song!
Punto 1 Tarja nunca fue despedida ella ya mucho antes había renunciado por problemas muy personales entre Tuomas , Tarja y Marcelo el marido de Tarja , muchos entenderán el motivo , además había problemas en la administración cosa que el mismo Marko recalcó cuando también se fue de Nightwish, la carta abierta en el sitio web de Nightwish es solo ya la rabieta de Tuomas por no poder asimilar que Tarja lo renunció muchas veces!!! Vean las entrevistas y comprenderán mucho
TARJA THE BEST
This was her last concert with Nightwish as Tuomas had decided to sack her which was sad but far worse was his time and his carefully framed smearing her as a diva etc. A musical tragedy tbh.
On a lighter note Tarja and Marko have recently reconciled after he publicly apologised for his part in her sacking and the bad blood behind the scenes before that.
No fue despedida ella renunció al acosodor la carta abierta ya solo es la reacción de un hombre dolido y vencido
More Nightwish feat Tarja, we want golden era Nikki !
Love Tarja
LOVE JUKKA
WHAT AN ERA ... OH MY GOSH
A bit heart wrenching the early Nightwish story, i mean it was written in the stars.. Tuomas and Tarja
I've heard little bits but don't know the whole story and what is true or not true. 😬
I respect Tarja as a vocalist and without her Nightwish wouldn’t have been the band it both was and became. The only reason we have this “political divide” as to whose best between Tarja and Floor is because Floor is so damned good. In the Wacken concert the last chorus after the mini breakdown where the song steps up in a higher key and the music becomes more frenetic. Floor belts out in a much higher and more piercing key than Tarja does which I feel brings the song to a different level.
How many other bands have ever had three lead singers and remained so popular with the fan base? Very few bands manage to change their lead singer even once and keep their head above water. That’s how good Floor Jansen is. I have a sneaking suspicion that if you asked all past and present members of the band who their favourite singer was in confidence, they would all say Floor.
Heh I can definitely see why and I'm not surprised. 😊
@ I liken the Floor/Tarja conversation in the same way the USA seems to view the Republicans/Democrat divide. - If you support one then the other must be ridiculed it seems. I find this sad and unnecessary. Whilst we may all have our personal favourite singer, it should never be cause to run down the other….
I was thinking the same thing about the last chorus. Tarja sounds great and powerful no doubt, but doesn't have the range of Floor. I know higher doesn't automatically make it better either. Some songs lend themselves better towards each singers style I think. Wishmaster to me will always be best with Tarja's voice for example. But Ever Dream with Floor and that amazing key change at the end.... I challenge anyone that runs to this song to NOT want to sprint when that part happens!
I will tell you my personnal opinion and it s not because i like Tarja and her era.When i hear Floor s high notes in the end of this song i close my ears .I hear a scream.It happens when Floor sings Tarja s songs.And i have studied music.I don t feel the same with another pop voice for example Lara Fabian who makes a climax fluently
@ And it’s perfectly ok for you to feel this way as it is your own personal interpretation. I’m certainly not here to tell you otherwise as your view should be as equally accepted and respected by others also. The world would be a very boring place if we all felt the same way about respective artists.
Floor wishes she was that good .
Hi Nikki, have you noticed all the bitter Tarja fans? Tarja is great, Floor is great, these people need to move on after 21 years 🙄
@@jimharris367scroll down and you'll find similar comments made by Floor fans about Tarja. Everyone should stop with those comments, but let's not pretend it's just one side of the fanbase.
Why " need to move on" and not stop in 2005 ? Till 2005 they had a favorite band from the begining with a singer they loved.Move on in every change made this mutant band passing the years? Do we have this obligation?
@alexandra-md5he because the past is past, time waits for no one, move on or move along, but stop going on about it incessantly, it's a bit sad.
@@jimharris367Then why do Floor fanatics still hold on to the past so much and take over the comment section of every Tarja reaction video? Kind of creepy huh?
Tuomas was cowardly and spiteful towards Tarja
Really? 👀 I'm semi-new to Nightwish but I can't even picture Tuomas being like that. He just seems too kind from what I've seen. 🥺
@@nikkireviewsI will give a brief explanation: Tuomas was completely in love with Tarja but this love was not reciprocated and this practically ended their relationship to the point of dismissing her from the band, with a cowardly letter. ps: after these years Marco asked Tarja for forgiveness and today the other members of the band are great friends...
@@nikkireviewsYes. Toumas has a bad reputation. Only new fans that found NW on reaction videos idealize him. He did Tarja, Sammy, and Annette, dirty.
Tuomas (keyboards) was surely emotional because he (and the band) knew that this would be Nightwish's final performance w/ Tarja on vocals... Just feeling the vast potential of the band and knowing that it was over... and Nightwish would be without a singer the next day was probably weighing heavily on him.
Tarja revealed in an interview that she knew thing were tense in Nightwish in '05 but she wasn't aware that they were going to fire her... In their documentary, Tarja did not even show up for the rehearsals for this final show - they waited for her and then, opted to rehearse without her because they had a guest performer (John Two-Hawks) for this concert.
In any case, the final show in Helsinki went spectacularly and was filmed for a DVD release... Tarja was ecstatic after the show and all their families were backstage afterwards... She was overjoyed but the band members seemed somewhat quiet... Before she left for home, they handed Tarja an envelope and told her to open it in the morning... "It could wait," they told her.
Anyway, the next day, Tarja recalled making breakfast and opened the envelope - there was a letter inside and she was shocked - it was basically a letter detailing her termination from Nightwish... She couldn't even process what had happened before her phone started ringing and her friends were calling to console her... They told her that the 'open letter' had been posted online on Nightwish's website.
From Tuomas's point of view, he was frustrated that all of Tarja's business decisions were handled by her husband, who was now her personal manager... and he kept making financial demands in 2004 /'05 that Nightwish could not agree to... A whole US tour was scrapped because the money was not enough and Tarja declined to do it... A sold out concert in Oslo, Norway was canceled because Tarja declined to show up... And she made plans to record a solo album and (allegedly) told Tuomas that she would record 1 more album w/ Nightwish before leaving the band... Tuomas wrote in the letter that he could not write songs for her to sing, knowing that this was hanging over his head... So, it was in the best interests of Nightwish to part ways w/ Tarja and get a new singer who could deliver and work w/ the band.
Nightwish would not perform for 2 years after this show in '05... Tarja worked on her debut solo album 'My winter storm' (released in '07) while Tuomas wrote what became the 'Dark passion play' album without a singer... After months of auditions, they decided to hire Anette Olzen as the new Nightwish lead singer in '07 and surprisingly, her debut album w/ Nightwish actually outsold the previous album 'Once' w/ Tarja on vocals.
I think you know why Tarja didn't come to rehearsal of show and why show might not take place at all. Tarja was very ill and fact that she would be able to sing at all was known only a few hours before show. The whole concert on pills is a questionable pleasure.
@@alexr8817 Yeah, that wasn't the case... I don't recall Tarja saying that in the interview.
And furthermore, u have to call in sick if it was true... A no-show at any job will get u fired asap.
@@sumonjamal1653 Buddy, read “Once upon a Nightwish” - official Nightwish biography, endorsed by Tuomas himself, so you don't make things up and distort facts next time.
@@alexr8817 haven't read it... and I don't make up what was said in band member's interviews either, dingus...
@@sumonjamal1653 You don't make things up, but you don't write much either. There was a special chemistry in band at time. Yes, towards end Tarja stopped participating in interviews because of problems within band. But fact that she didn't come to rehearsals was never a problem at all in first era. They started to make a big deal out of Tarja's absence from rehearsals only before she was fired, and before that her absence was not a problem. Tarja had a great sense of mood of Tuomas' songs and always sang them well. During her studies in Germany, she not only did not participate in rehearsals, but even recorded vocals for album not in studio with guys, but in Germany during her studies. After that she sent record to Tuomas and everything worked out fine. Recorded album is a proof of that. Anyway, read this book.
Hi Nikki please check Nightwish with Tarja
"Passion And The Opera ",
ruclips.net/video/_uHKN6D45C0/видео.html
No, I really don't mean "The phantom of the Opera"😊❤👍
Recomiendo a Tarja como Solista con el Medley de Nightwish desde Helfest 2016 en ese Medley también esta Ever Dream digno de reaccionar aqui te dejo el enlace del Medley de canciones de Nightwish con la voz de Tarja como Solista 🤘🏻
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Tuomas was acting there, he always did that on this song
"Always" I only just watched 2 versions of this, one Madrid 2005 with Tarja and one with Anette and he did it at NEITHER 😂
No he doesn’t.
He never did it before....
Nunca lo hizo con Annette ni con Floor esta canción es Tarja la letra fue escrita para ella y no solo como vocalista sino más allá de todo
Always reminds me why i did not like Nightwish back then 🥺
I'm 12 years old and I discovered Nightwish with Tarja. I've always loved her voice and Marko's. Now I find it so strange that Floor is singing and they are not there.
In my opinion when Tuomas put his hands over his face it was foreshadowing his emotion of what was to come in my ranking of this song it's 3rd and has been third for almost three and a half straight years since November of 2020 to be honest it's been the same three in that time Ghost love score, Story Time , and Ever Dream but where I differ is that any song that Floor did by the other two singers is done better by Floor the only ones that even comes close by Tarja are Nemo and End of all hope
Floors screaming at the end of this song is rough.
@nicholew350 floor screaming at the end of what song????
Ever dream@@blueeyes1110
@@alexandra-md5he Not just Ever dream, she starts shouting=screaming=yelling with a flat, thin chest or chesty mix voice at the end of 4th octave on every song 🙂.
Yes i feel that me too@@MrRoziuke
Tarja is great but their is only one Goddess and that is Floor. I dont care if it was written for Tarja, Floor just does it better. Great review Nikki
Another fan of Betterwish😅😅😅
@@alexandra-md5he I like that, Betterwish.😂😂
She really is a goddess. 🤭💫
Floor just belts a lot and I don't think belting always makes a song better 😬 it's just louder lol
@@kazfarah7623It’s screaming. Whitney Houston is a great belter. Floor, is nails on a chalk board.
Nooooo.... Terrible with Tarja.
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Are you seriously saying Tuomas would have picked a terrible singer to sing his songs (because he was the one who asked Tarja to join the band, no one else), and would have gone so far as to lie in interviews that the way she interprets his songs makes him feel like she's seeing through his soul? Tuomas' opinion >>>> your opinion since these are his songs
Terrible is your face kkk
Not going to compare Tarja and Floor again? I’ll hold you to that when we get to Ghost Love Score 🤐
Damned comparisons! The have smashed into pieces the fanbase
What's the point of comparing? One song sounds different and gives different emotions when listening to it. In Floor's performance this song is about Floor's great vocals, in Tarja's performance this song is a complex multi-layered compositional and poetic masterpiece with a beautiful choir.
There is nothing wrong of comparing, but it's useless of course because Floor is the singer now. That said, there shouldn't be need for any Floor fans to patrol in every Tarja reaction, just to tell how they can't stand her voice. That is hatebreeding. I usually prefer original versions (even some album versions) over the newer ones, but of course I am biased. I still mostly listen to newer versions because of the reaction videos, and I really love them too.
@NightwishArena Yes! That s what i mean too.The sad situation of coming in Tarja s reactions and say Floor is better.They are simply different.So i call them fans of Betterwish.....
Besides the belt at the end, I think Tarja has the upper hand. Sounds much fuller and darker with her on the chorus.