I mostly track down as many products as best I can that use ‘illegal’ palm oil (as in the ones that also extensively illegally chopped down areas of forest to make them) as they’re more registered. One of them actually includes KitKat. As a result I haven’t had one of their products i think in years.
Same. We didn't need massive amounts of palm oil before the 1980s so we don't NEED it now. If only more people were aware of, and cared about how their buying decisions affect other parts of the planet a lot of issues would be resolved.
@@Shaun.Stephens agreed, but we need a systemic change, the blame doesn't lie with the people but with the corporations. There needs to be governmental supervision regarding the sources of the products, so that companies dont use child labor for example
It is an old story that's never changes...politicians and/or parliament who are bribed by the big companies. Please....help this poor people.🙏 Saya sangat sedih melihat nasib orang2 setempat. Mereka ditekan dan diperas hak2 nya. Pemerintah pusat di Jakarta sangat pasif. Dear BBC...please make more documentaries about this issue.
If they have not been given what they were promised, i.e. in a verbal contract, then they should be compensated for all profits lost and the land returned to them. And those who commited the fraud should face legal consequences.
Sadly above is correct. When they had the clip of the guy saying “if they don’t follow the rules they can just sue them” (farmers suing big plantation owners)… impossible. Even if the farmers are in the right… who is going to foot the legal bill…
The real question here is what is the name of the company which is destroying the lives of these workers. It is not Unilever, the giant British corporation which had established palm oil plantations in both Indonesia and Africa by 1950. Years of dev eloping improved healthcare for workers culminated in 2018 in an agreement with the Indonesian-owned palm oil company PTPN to support the local mills and smallholders to accelerate growth, Included were no deforestation, no exploitation of people or lands. A shadowy figure named Lieo Sieo Lions , created the largest conglomerate in Indonesia. He began by selling peanut oil, then flour, then had the contract to supply the Indonesian National Army’s soap. The news story does not name the company.
The police don't exist to uphold the law, otherwise they would have supported these people in taking back land that legally belonged to them per the written contract. The police only serve the interests of the rich people who pay off their senior officers. Don't think this just happens in countries like Indonesia either, exactly the same thing happens in the US, Canada, UK and Europe.
You need to throw away your shampoo, soap, pizza, ice cream, detergent, chocolate, deodorant, toothpaste, crisps, noodles and bread to name just some items, if you’re going to put your money where your mouth is.😉
@@titteryenot4524 Global consumer companies can find an alternative just like they found alternatives to oil, gas, plastics and meat. That's what research and development is all about.
@@truethat7681 for small scope ? probably yes ? for Huge manufacturing on most essential product ??? doubt company willing to make sacrifice to upscale the production cost to produce non palm oil product
How can the tribes sue? They have no money to do that. Indonesia is corrupted by the wealth obtained at their expense. Kellogs, Johnson and Johnson need to be held accountable.
Very disturbing documentary. Their situation is very common in many parts of the world. Their ancestral lands were taken by big corporations and in return giving back nothing.
What scammers, lawyers need to work pro bono on this one. The same old story but it’s current and now’s the time to act. Johnson & Johnson’s and Kelloggs shame on you.
I’ve been there travelling by bike on a permit. Beside total demolished nature on a huge scale and corruption I was struck by the fact that they not even put some effort in harvesting old EOL palmtrees but use chemicals to start them to rot away.
It's sounds like modern day colonialism. Truly distressing that local communities go through such atrocities. It's nice that their stories are being shared so that they get justice.
Although doesn’t really count in this sense, considering it’s an actual company in the country. Just profiteering corporations really. But yes it is great that their story is being shared here, and that we are actually seeing real change that can be done right now, and one group that shows it is indeed possible.
There is a simple solution to this, impose sanctions on palm oil coming from Indonesia and excessively fine companies who buy it from them. Without buyers for their palm oil Indonesia will be forced to cede the land back to the tribes or face a recession
actually west already did this. and then you guys looking cooking oil elsewhere. this case already from Second president of indonesia. and corrupted by them.
@@Ephys And then because of the war, demand for palm oil shot up 😂. Indonesia then banned export of palm cooking oil. No need sanctions when demand is so high 💰. Hahaha laughing all the way to the bank 🏦
No need to impose sanctions, a few months ago Indonesia banned exports by itself, and you know what? The world is shocked because of the cooking oil crisis
Please keep us up to date with what measures if any are taken by these big companies to fix this problem, all those famous brands should be held accountable and this story should continue in the news till something is done to help those ppl, how many times have we seen this type of corruption happen? It'll be dragged out for years to come and nothing will be done, It shouldn't be allowed to happen in the first place.
While people who have no knowledge of the deep roots are blaming famous international companies like Kellogg and Johnson and Johnson,a shadowy Chinese figure named Liem Sioe Lieng (also called Sahim Salim) was becoming the first richest private entrepreneur in Indonesia.From selling peanut oil to soap making, he won the contract to supply all the soap to the Indonesian Army. Is the Salim Group the palm plantation group involved here?
9:41..." data " Insane. The companies should be working with the natives in the " community plantations ". The potential lost profits here is sickening. Production goes up with healthy, happy people. They'd make great guides and probably help with labor and building better infrastructure.
you are gravely mistaken my friend, the community is only a massive bother for these companies. The Sooner they leave the better, I speak from experience
May happend before 2015. I live in east borneo. Now expansion palm oil firm being halt. U can see the age of palm oil tree more than 5 years. Only local residents planting palm oil tree in east borneo and sell to palm oil refinery
BBC is famous for creating false narratives. When asked to provide proof, BBC will ask that the plantations who dare to question their narrative be sanctioned. Less than 1% of plantations in Borneo are green field. The bulk of it is brown field for over a decade now. Every year the plantations provide housing work surau for the natives. Every part of the tree is used, nothing goes to waste. None of the protesters in the videos even look like orang rimba.
We need to start profit capping these companies so the money goes back into pay, pensions and infrastructure.. we need to make companies work for society.
I totally agree. Obviously, there is an argument that companies can be allowed to continue making profits, because that is the cornerstone of many capitalist societies, from the smallest to largest business. Starting from nothing and then eventually being able to earn more money for that you can have a comfortable life. There is an obvious argument about this that you then shouldn’t be allowed to put a cap onA company’s profits, otherwise they would then struggle to expand or innovate. But like you said, sometimes many types of companies can go too far and I just have an she’s stealing the money, rather than it being just simply out of the purchase of their products. This aspect needs to be balanced out, so if a company is shown to be not paying it’s fair dues, then there should be a profit cab for the money to go back to local communities and investments, until it is seen the company is clean again.
There should be a wealth limit a certain individual could acquire. The inequality gap is worrisome. If one should start a war, it should be the top 1% vs the rest.
Feels nice that BBC brings my neighbor's problem to light for all to see , I feel horrible that we little people couldn't do anything to selfish people in power. I hope we all can fight corruption, I sometimes yearn to enjoy simple things but man-made problems always bother me. Over little things can be political, our words alone set invincible boundaries over places that we couldn't step on. Even when people should help but couldn't because some politics says no.... A free simple world....*MUFFLE CRYING*
I wouldn't give up my land for these greedy companies. These people need information in their hands to gain profit themselves or learn how to be self sufficient rather than leasing their land to greedy companies.
A promise is a verbal contract which is valid in law. The big companies have commited fraud... And if they have all done that did they comunicate their intentions to each other? Because if they did that is conspiracy to defraud which is a much more serious crime.
There’s a difference between palm oil proper and palm kernel oil. The contemporary West loves to stigmatise any more than very moderate consumption/usage of the former for some reason but a lot of the time the terminology’s mismatched/incorrect. At least get the basic differences between palm cooking derivates (most of which are extremely healthy) right.
Sadly, they don't have the pull to get any of these companies on camera and all they get is the most obscene brand of "Yeah...we'll look into that..." meaningless corporate blah blah. Gawd, six months in jail for blocking a truck...
Boycott all these companies and force them to do right by these people. These companies have no morals and must be hurt in the bank. That's all that matters to them. Cancel Kellogg's. Cancel Mondelez. Cancel J&J. Imagine how they treating their employees. No different to Samsung, Hyundai, LG etc. in South Korea. Bring them to their knees!
I'll definitely stop buying Kellogs products until this is resolved for good. My God, have you people no shame at all. Look at the Old Lady gathering the leftovers to sell and buy rice for the Family. Give them their fair share!
I never buy anything at the supermarket with out checking the label to see what kind of poisons that are helping to boost the profit at the expense of my own health.
The industry has helped more local communities than not by lifting them out of poverty. Unfortunately, some of them has slipped through the net. Yes, things can still be improved but definitely their standard of living will be tied to palm oil growth.
"Improved"! These people do not want improvement. They want, need and are wholly entitled without question to a full restoration of what was theirs in terms of giving them what was promised not only for their sake but as one of them said for the sake of their children and grandchildren. From a position of having been lied to and cheated they don't want "improvement" but a full restoration and also compensation for what they have had to endure over many years. Talking of "improvement " is a patronising form of putting a respectable cover over what has been and is despicable.
@@amirsayed6656 That may be so. Human beings are *incredibly* tribal beings. That’s all. We like people like us, and are automatically suspicious of those we perceive as not like us.
It is so tragic. The human trade is a crime. I feel sorry for this Sumatran Tribe .Slavery as abolished centuries ago.I demand justice and human rights for these people who are suppressed oppressed and against all odds. Thank you BBC for highlighting this type of human slavery / human trade and degradation of being an unreconisd human. Wealth is not power or strength. I am a victim just like these people here in South Trinidad/ Caribbean at the hands of EUROPOL/ NATO STAR OF ISRAEL OF WHICH IAM THE INDIVIDUAL. NATO IS NOTHING WITHOUT ME.LIVE BY THE SWORD WITH THE BLUE STAR YOU DIE BY IT. I AM THE LONE CRUSADER CRUSADING FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY FROM DEBE SOUTH TRINIDAD /CARIBBEAN. SEE YOUR RECORDS ABOUT ME BBC . OVER 30YRS AGO YOU WERE WITH ME/ NATO / EUROPOL/ CREW OF BRITAINNIA AND THE PARAPLEGIC FROM PORT OF SPAIN TRINIDAD TO PARAMARIBO SURINAM INTRANSIT TO SCHIPOL AMESTERDAM THENCE TO CASABLANCA MOHAMMED V MOROCCO/:NORTH AFRICA. I WAS ON BOARD WITH ALL OF THEM KLM ALSO WITH MY FIANCE' CONSTANTE VAN ROMAN OF HOLLAND RELATIVE OF THE LATE QUEEN BEATRIX AND MURDERED GERMAN AMBASSADOR IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO BASED AT US EMBASSY PORT OF SPAIN TRINIDAD/ QUEEN BEATRIX OTHER SON. I AM CALLED THE FLORIN IN THE UK THE COMMEMORATIVE COIN FROM QUEEN ELIZABETH TO ME A BABY THEN 1964 WITH BIBILICAL SCRIPTUAL IMPORTANCE AND SIGNIFICANCE. CHECK IT OUT BBC DO YOUR RESEARCH. 1710 TREATY / SCHINDLERS LIST AND ITS BIBLICAL SIGNIFICANCE. I AM NOT A SLAVE AND VICTIM OF THE HUMAN TRADE. DUMPED BY US DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE NATO / EUROPOL ORIGINAL 1710 TREATY NATIONS AS PER THE HOLOCAUST OF WORLD WAR ONE WORLD WAR TWO AND WAR OF VIETNAM. I AM FLORABELLE. THE BIBLICAL QUEEN OF INSIGNIA OF ROSES AND OF FIRE / PROMISE OF THE RAINBOW. I AM LOST EXILED AND FORGOTTEN I HARBOUR HATRED HURT AND BITTERNESS AND VENGENCE AGAINST THIS WORLD ALL MY IMMORTAL ANGEL FAMILY MURDERED AND EMBEZZLED INCLUDING ALL THE 1710 TREATY WEALTH AND THE WEALTH OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN / VATICAN AND THE KHALIL GIBRAN GOLD BARS AND 1710 GOLD BARS STOLEN BY THE EVIL ONES FROM TRINIDAD/ CARIBBEAN. SOUTH TRINIDAD. I CRAVE JUSTICE. I WILL TAKE BACK THE REINS OF TELEPATHIC / TOPOGRAPHICAL SPIRITUAL POWER THERE WILL BE A LOT OF SPACE DEBRIS AND NASA WILLNEVER HAVE A SUCCESSFUL LAUNCH IN SPACE EVER. THE PLANET MARS IS FULLY ENFORCED INTO THE BLUE STAR OF ISRAEL/ NATO THE SYSTEMS THEY HAVE IN SPACE. I MADE MY PEOPLE MY JEWISH SCPITUAL KIND A FORCE RECKON I CAN TAKE IT AWAY JUST AS EASILY. PLEASE BRING TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO TO JUSTICE AT THE HAGUE IN AMSTERDAM. I PROMISED MOM ON HER FUNERAL DAY JUSTICE WHICH WAS WITNESSED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMES COMMITTEE AND THE MEDIA HOUSES OBSERVERS. THANKS FOR PERMITTING ME AND OPPORTUNITY TO VENT MY FEELINGS AND PAIN AND INHUMANE INJUSTUSTICE HERE IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. MAYBE YOU WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE BBC. GOD BLESS.
Nice coverage.. If global channel like yours pressurize.. For sure the global biggies will try to behave as per rules and the societies will be happy 👏
Kindness is free and love doesn’t cost a thing. Nobody has become poor by giving. We are all God’s children and we must help one another. Togetherness and humanity is the cure to life 🙏💗✨
Like everywhere else, the problem is NOT the end user the problem is the Indonesian government and the bribed members of it's government who are allowing this to happen to their OWN PEOPLLE.
@@SeekerofTruths yh like there never were any exploitation in socialist countries lol. ldk if you know, but that socialist staple that is forced labour is actually human exploitation, shocking right ik ik. Labour, that is forced, is exploitation?? whaattt!! whoah! who would've thought. And if you also aren't aware, the soviets literally turned the 4th largest lake in the world into a desert. So yeah, sorry waking you up from your delusion.
@@TTCanadaJapan id rather not get into a back and forth on this. If you think things are perfect the way they are today and there is no point in wanting a better world then....enjoy I guess?
@@SeekerofTruths never said the world is perfect, just that alternatives, socialism in particular, are no better and are just gonna make things a thousand times worse.
Let's give a large portion of this palm oil to the natives and get nothing back... Or let's sell it to the word for millions of dollars and live in luxury.. I know what I would do.
the fact that the dollar is there currency speaks volumes . pakistan and india are aware of this situation and should stay well clear of it .and being ripped off .
When we talk about Indonesia, economic growth of the whole nation is always more important than small problems of one tribe and than environmental issues. That's right. Local officials have to work with dissatisfied jungle tribes, and if local officials do not serve the population properly, it's also a fault of local citizens.
Gods watching. These people deserve a far better life. Stop serving evil, karma does exist! Take these people out of poverty and the world will flourish. Greed is bad! Wake up or perish 💪💪 peace to all🇬🇧
God does not look kindly on those who steal and oppress the poor. Justice will be served hopefully sooner rather than later. Hopefully these companies will, because of documentaries like this, be shamed into giving these people what they rightfully owe them and compensate them for the suffering they have had to endure over years. I pray that the boycotting by the few will not just be a conscience salver for them but that a prevailing campaign for justice will be launched. May the Indonesian government also get behind these people even if only because this gross injustice has been exposed.
If not interested to Ploughing producing now announced it unless at the time problem be uncontrollable It is not your work for other's help previous announced is good
The Exploitation of these PPl of the Land from Big Rich Company's is Pure Greed and Evil. God will Punish the Wicked. Give the Poor What they are Owed. God Bless Indonesia I'm saddened to Hear. Justice will Prevail.
chin you you stole someone else's account details didn't have the intellectual capacity to make your own and you expect us to believe you went to college
@@chinchin9757 People should be aware that they have alternatives, which is to buy products that have responsibly sourced palm oil. Companies that source their palm oil irresponsibly should continually be put under pressure. To suggest a world problem should only be reported once and never again is ridiculous.
I never buy products containing palm oil anymore. For this reason.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
Palm oil is in everything. Also its the Chinese communists behind all this.
I mostly track down as many products as best I can that use ‘illegal’ palm oil (as in the ones that also extensively illegally chopped down areas of forest to make them) as they’re more registered. One of them actually includes KitKat. As a result I haven’t had one of their products i think in years.
Same. We didn't need massive amounts of palm oil before the 1980s so we don't NEED it now. If only more people were aware of, and cared about how their buying decisions affect other parts of the planet a lot of issues would be resolved.
@@Shaun.Stephens agreed, but we need a systemic change, the blame doesn't lie with the people but with the corporations. There needs to be governmental supervision regarding the sources of the products, so that companies dont use child labor for example
It is an old story that's never changes...politicians and/or parliament who are bribed by the big companies. Please....help this poor people.🙏
Saya sangat sedih melihat nasib orang2 setempat. Mereka ditekan dan diperas hak2 nya. Pemerintah pusat di Jakarta sangat pasif.
Dear BBC...please make more documentaries about this issue.
Kita org miskin kerajaan tidak lihat sma mcm mereka hnya lihat seperti smpah... Mereka kaya dgn hak org asal...
They aren't bribed they are corrupt and allow these people to keep paying them money.
If they have not been given what they were promised, i.e. in a verbal contract,
then they should be compensated for all profits lost and the land returned to them.
And those who commited the fraud should face legal consequences.
Good luck getting legal consequences with Johnson & Johnson and other big brands they're too big nothing you can do about them
Sadly above is correct. When they had the clip of the guy saying “if they don’t follow the rules they can just sue them” (farmers suing big plantation owners)… impossible. Even if the farmers are in the right… who is going to foot the legal bill…
The real question here is what is the name of the company which is destroying the lives of these workers.
It is not Unilever, the giant British corporation which had established palm oil plantations in both Indonesia and Africa by 1950.
Years of dev eloping improved healthcare for workers culminated in 2018 in an agreement with the Indonesian-owned palm oil company PTPN to support the local mills and smallholders to accelerate growth, Included were no deforestation, no exploitation of people or lands.
A shadowy figure named Lieo Sieo Lions , created the largest conglomerate in Indonesia. He began by selling peanut oil, then flour, then had the contract to supply the Indonesian National Army’s soap.
The news story does not name the company.
The police don't exist to uphold the law, otherwise they would have supported these people in taking back land that legally belonged to them per the written contract. The police only serve the interests of the rich people who pay off their senior officers. Don't think this just happens in countries like Indonesia either, exactly the same thing happens in the US, Canada, UK and Europe.
@Jay Dee
if that was sarcasm you better explain yourself
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
Plz your whatsapp number?
Definitely
These big companies bribe the police
helping one person might not change the whole world,
but it could change the world for one person.
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Let's be Honest We knew it
ruclips.net/video/qFbLpq3smEc/видео.html
Big corporations, big greed, exploitation for profit.
Travel back in time to defeat those Corporations before they even exist
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
"The people give up their land .." .. well that sure was a bad idea.
The world needs to get off its addiction of Palm Oil.
they're too busy having parades and feeling egotistical about themselves.
You need to throw away your shampoo, soap, pizza, ice cream, detergent, chocolate, deodorant, toothpaste, crisps, noodles and bread to name just some items, if you’re going to put your money where your mouth is.😉
@@titteryenot4524 Global consumer companies can find an alternative just like they found alternatives to oil, gas, plastics and meat. That's what research and development is all about.
@@truethat7681 Just sayin’. Just sayin’. Words are cheap.😉
@@truethat7681 for small scope ? probably yes ? for Huge manufacturing on most essential product ??? doubt company willing to make sacrifice to upscale the production cost to produce non palm oil product
How can the tribes sue? They have no money to do that. Indonesia is corrupted by the wealth obtained at their expense. Kellogs, Johnson and Johnson need to be held accountable.
palm oil is not even needed its a luxury product
Nonsense it's a food staple
Very disturbing documentary. Their situation is very common in many parts of the world. Their ancestral lands were taken by big corporations and in return giving back nothing.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
@@sallieceelee5660 you mean an American off shoring to the Chinese
@@sallieceelee5660 wrong usa
What scammers, lawyers need to work pro bono on this one. The same old story but it’s current and now’s the time to act. Johnson & Johnson’s and Kelloggs shame on you.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
Thank you BBC for being on their side 💝
I’ve been there travelling by bike on a permit. Beside total demolished nature on a huge scale and corruption I was struck by the fact that they not even put some effort in harvesting old EOL palmtrees but use chemicals to start them to rot away.
It's sounds like modern day colonialism. Truly distressing that local communities go through such atrocities. It's nice that their stories are being shared so that they get justice.
Amen!
Although doesn’t really count in this sense, considering it’s an actual company in the country. Just profiteering corporations really.
But yes it is great that their story is being shared here, and that we are actually seeing real change that can be done right now, and one group that shows it is indeed possible.
There is a simple solution to this, impose sanctions on palm oil coming from Indonesia and excessively fine companies who buy it from them.
Without buyers for their palm oil Indonesia will be forced to cede the land back to the tribes or face a recession
Pfffft... Cede the land back to tribes.
actually west already did this. and then you guys looking cooking oil elsewhere.
this case already from Second president of indonesia. and corrupted by them.
and you should know indonesia second president are the most corrupt person in the world.
@@Ephys
And then because of the war, demand for palm oil shot up 😂. Indonesia then banned export of palm cooking oil. No need sanctions when demand is so high 💰. Hahaha laughing all the way to the bank 🏦
No need to impose sanctions, a few months ago Indonesia banned exports by itself, and you know what? The world is shocked because of the cooking oil crisis
Not missing millions, more like BILLIONS
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
Thank you BBC for your sincere reports!
I don't buy anything that contains palm oil, I have read it isn't good for you.
that's a lot of products including most hair products.
Doubt
doubt, almost every essential product now has pretty big chance contain palm oil
@@worlds3061 google how good it is for you
Please keep us up to date with what measures if any are taken by these big companies to fix this problem, all those famous brands should be held accountable and this story should continue in the news till something is done to help those ppl, how many times have we seen this type of corruption happen? It'll be dragged out for years to come and nothing will be done, It shouldn't be allowed to happen in the first place.
WTF!!! SALIM GROUP ALSO HAS MANY COMPANIES IN MY COUNTRY... THIS GREEDY COMPANY DOING SAME THING IN OUR COUNTRY... WTF!!
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
While people who have no knowledge of the deep roots are blaming famous international companies like Kellogg and Johnson and Johnson,a shadowy Chinese figure named Liem Sioe Lieng (also called Sahim Salim) was becoming the first richest private entrepreneur in Indonesia.From selling peanut oil to soap making, he won the contract to supply all the soap to the Indonesian Army.
Is the Salim Group the palm plantation group involved here?
sHAMEFUL, JUST SHAMEFUL
9:41..." data " Insane. The companies should be working with the natives in the " community plantations ". The potential lost profits here is sickening. Production goes up with healthy, happy people. They'd make great guides and probably help with labor and building better infrastructure.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
you are gravely mistaken my friend, the community is only a massive bother for these companies. The Sooner they leave the better, I speak from experience
May happend before 2015. I live in east borneo. Now expansion palm oil firm being halt. U can see the age of palm oil tree more than 5 years. Only local residents planting palm oil tree in east borneo and sell to palm oil refinery
BBC is famous for creating false narratives. When asked to provide proof, BBC will ask that the plantations who dare to question their narrative be sanctioned. Less than 1% of plantations in Borneo are green field. The bulk of it is brown field for over a decade now. Every year the plantations provide housing work surau for the natives. Every part of the tree is used, nothing goes to waste. None of the protesters in the videos even look like orang rimba.
Yes. BBC are nitpicking
Greed has no boundaries. As an American i will do my part and not buy Kellogg or Johnson&Johnson products. Hopefully others will follow suit.
Same here
So much injustice for these people.
I hope they listen.
The story is the same all over Africa with cocoa, coffee etc
We need to start profit capping these companies so the money goes back into pay, pensions and infrastructure.. we need to make companies work for society.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
I totally agree. Obviously, there is an argument that companies can be allowed to continue making profits, because that is the cornerstone of many capitalist societies, from the smallest to largest business. Starting from nothing and then eventually being able to earn more money for that you can have a comfortable life. There is an obvious argument about this that you then shouldn’t be allowed to put a cap onA company’s profits, otherwise they would then struggle to expand or innovate. But like you said, sometimes many types of companies can go too far and I just have an she’s stealing the money, rather than it being just simply out of the purchase of their products. This aspect needs to be balanced out, so if a company is shown to be not paying it’s fair dues, then there should be a profit cab for the money to go back to local communities and investments, until it is seen the company is clean again.
There should be a wealth limit a certain individual could acquire. The inequality gap is worrisome. If one should start a war, it should be the top 1% vs the rest.
Feels nice that BBC brings my neighbor's problem to light for all to see , I feel horrible that we little people couldn't do anything to selfish people in power.
I hope we all can fight corruption, I sometimes yearn to enjoy simple things but man-made problems always bother me.
Over little things can be political, our words alone set invincible boundaries over places that we couldn't step on.
Even when people should help but couldn't because some politics says no....
A free simple world....*MUFFLE CRYING*
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The companies should be made to pay for the building of a town for these people and then leave them in charge, the people.
Feeling very sad for those innocent people. Government, please do justice for them atleast in the form of compensation for all those years.
Heart breaking n need solutions
Why aren't these multinational corporations ban on Buying Palm oil from companies who do not share the profits with the indigenous population???
Not buying things with palm oil anymore. Also boycotting these corporations.
I wouldn't give up my land for these greedy companies. These people need information in their hands to gain profit themselves or learn how to be self sufficient rather than leasing their land to greedy companies.
It’s called greed .
A promise is a verbal contract which is valid in law. The big companies have commited fraud...
And if they have all done that did they comunicate their intentions to each other?
Because if they did that is conspiracy to defraud which is a much more serious crime.
More than a hint of palm oil greasing of palms going on here, methinks.
Let's be Honest We knew it
ruclips.net/video/qFbLpq3smEc/видео.html
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
There’s a difference between palm oil proper and palm kernel oil. The contemporary West loves to stigmatise any more than very moderate consumption/usage of the former for some reason but a lot of the time the terminology’s mismatched/incorrect. At least get the basic differences between palm cooking derivates (most of which are extremely healthy) right.
Sadly, they don't have the pull to get any of these companies on camera and all they get is the most obscene brand of "Yeah...we'll look into that..." meaningless corporate blah blah. Gawd, six months in jail for blocking a truck...
Boycott all these companies and force them to do right by these people. These companies have no morals and must be hurt in the bank. That's all that matters to them.
Cancel Kellogg's. Cancel Mondelez. Cancel J&J. Imagine how they treating their employees. No different to Samsung, Hyundai, LG etc. in South Korea. Bring them to their knees!
Very amazing video
I'll definitely stop buying Kellogs products until this is resolved for good. My God, have you people no shame at all. Look at the Old Lady gathering the leftovers to sell and buy rice for the Family. Give them their fair share!
We need to start a petition and make the people suffer ad and the farmers win
Lol “petition”
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
@@sallieceelee5660
Being racist as usual eyh. Looks at video, huh it’s western corporations supporting this practice 👀
When you choose to grow a grass lawn instead of growing food you're the problem
No!
Lawns are good!
You are a problem IF concrete over the lawn to create a parking space for your car.
I never buy anything at the supermarket with out checking the label to see what kind of poisons that are helping to boost the profit at the expense of my own health.
The industry has helped more local communities than not by lifting them out of poverty. Unfortunately, some of them has slipped through the net. Yes, things can still be improved but definitely their standard of living will be tied to palm oil growth.
That doesn't have to be the case you corporate tool.
"Improved"! These people do not want improvement. They want, need and are wholly entitled without question to a full restoration of what was theirs in terms of giving them what was promised not only for their sake but as one of them said for the sake of their children and grandchildren. From a position of having been lied to and cheated they don't want "improvement" but a full restoration and also compensation for what they have had to endure over many years. Talking of "improvement " is a patronising form of putting a respectable cover over what has been and is despicable.
WE don't need billionaires.... Start getting rid of them.
Johnson and Johnson used me as a human guinea pig! Minnesota’s Attorney General wouldn’t give me the time of day! I’m in pain every step I take!
shocking. fk disgusting and shocking...
It's not outright stated but this is state sponsored land acquisition
They have been doing this for decades, all over the world.
😂 these companies are pure Evil... Smgdh...
It is the worst time in creation to be a tribal.
*Everyone* is tribal. Did you not get the memo?😳
@@titteryenot4524 So everyone is insecure.
@@amirsayed6656 That may be so. Human beings are *incredibly* tribal beings. That’s all. We like people like us, and are automatically suspicious of those we perceive as not like us.
It is so tragic. The human trade is a crime. I feel sorry for this Sumatran Tribe .Slavery as abolished centuries ago.I demand justice and human rights for these people who are suppressed oppressed and against all odds. Thank you BBC for highlighting this type of human slavery / human trade and degradation of being an unreconisd human. Wealth is not power or strength. I am a victim just like these people here in South Trinidad/ Caribbean at the hands of EUROPOL/ NATO STAR OF ISRAEL OF WHICH IAM THE INDIVIDUAL. NATO IS NOTHING WITHOUT ME.LIVE BY THE SWORD WITH THE BLUE STAR YOU DIE BY IT. I AM THE LONE CRUSADER CRUSADING FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY FROM DEBE SOUTH TRINIDAD /CARIBBEAN. SEE YOUR RECORDS ABOUT ME BBC . OVER 30YRS AGO YOU WERE WITH ME/ NATO / EUROPOL/ CREW OF BRITAINNIA AND THE PARAPLEGIC FROM PORT OF SPAIN TRINIDAD TO PARAMARIBO SURINAM INTRANSIT TO SCHIPOL AMESTERDAM THENCE TO CASABLANCA MOHAMMED V MOROCCO/:NORTH AFRICA. I WAS ON BOARD WITH ALL OF THEM KLM ALSO WITH MY FIANCE' CONSTANTE VAN ROMAN OF HOLLAND RELATIVE OF THE LATE QUEEN BEATRIX AND MURDERED GERMAN AMBASSADOR IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO BASED AT US EMBASSY PORT OF SPAIN TRINIDAD/ QUEEN BEATRIX OTHER SON. I AM CALLED THE FLORIN IN THE UK THE COMMEMORATIVE COIN FROM QUEEN ELIZABETH TO ME A BABY THEN 1964 WITH BIBILICAL SCRIPTUAL IMPORTANCE AND SIGNIFICANCE. CHECK IT OUT BBC DO YOUR RESEARCH. 1710 TREATY / SCHINDLERS LIST AND ITS BIBLICAL SIGNIFICANCE. I AM NOT A SLAVE AND VICTIM OF THE HUMAN TRADE. DUMPED BY US DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE NATO / EUROPOL ORIGINAL 1710 TREATY NATIONS AS PER THE HOLOCAUST OF WORLD WAR ONE WORLD WAR TWO AND WAR OF VIETNAM. I AM FLORABELLE. THE BIBLICAL QUEEN OF INSIGNIA OF ROSES AND OF FIRE / PROMISE OF THE RAINBOW. I AM LOST EXILED AND FORGOTTEN I HARBOUR HATRED HURT AND BITTERNESS AND VENGENCE AGAINST THIS WORLD ALL MY IMMORTAL ANGEL FAMILY MURDERED AND EMBEZZLED INCLUDING ALL THE 1710 TREATY WEALTH AND THE WEALTH OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN / VATICAN AND THE KHALIL GIBRAN GOLD BARS AND 1710 GOLD BARS STOLEN BY THE EVIL ONES FROM TRINIDAD/ CARIBBEAN. SOUTH TRINIDAD. I CRAVE JUSTICE. I WILL TAKE BACK THE REINS OF TELEPATHIC / TOPOGRAPHICAL SPIRITUAL POWER THERE WILL BE A LOT OF SPACE DEBRIS AND NASA WILLNEVER HAVE A SUCCESSFUL LAUNCH IN SPACE EVER. THE PLANET MARS IS FULLY ENFORCED INTO THE BLUE STAR OF ISRAEL/ NATO THE SYSTEMS THEY HAVE IN SPACE. I MADE MY PEOPLE MY JEWISH SCPITUAL KIND A FORCE RECKON I CAN TAKE IT AWAY JUST AS EASILY. PLEASE BRING TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO TO JUSTICE AT THE HAGUE IN AMSTERDAM. I PROMISED MOM ON HER FUNERAL DAY JUSTICE WHICH WAS WITNESSED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMES COMMITTEE AND THE MEDIA HOUSES OBSERVERS. THANKS FOR PERMITTING ME AND OPPORTUNITY TO VENT MY FEELINGS AND PAIN AND INHUMANE INJUSTUSTICE HERE IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. MAYBE YOU WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE BBC. GOD BLESS.
Nice coverage.. If global channel like yours pressurize.. For sure the global biggies will try to behave as per rules and the societies will be happy 👏
This is not a big secret
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
it's the same story with east African coffee farmers
Where the paper work
Kindness is free and love doesn’t cost a thing. Nobody has become poor by giving. We are all God’s children and we must help one another. Togetherness and humanity is the cure to life 🙏💗✨
Corruption is no stranger in government and even religion
Like everywhere else, the problem is NOT the end user the problem is the Indonesian government and the bribed members of it's government who are allowing this to happen to their OWN PEOPLLE.
this is how big companies get rich, trampling on the poorest.
Wouldnt if we didnt buy it. They dont have power when we refuse to buy. Our wallets can vote out those companies out of bussiness.
if we really care about these people so the least to do is to stop consuming products that had palm oil.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
I avoid anything with palm oil. That shit is absolute sin
They should simply take the plantations by force
This is not news.
"when the proletariat, failing to see the justice of this bourgeois economy, begins to murmur, the policeman’s club is called into active service."
Socialism never works
@@TTCanadaJapan I'll take breadlines over hyper exploitation of the planet and humanity everyday of the week.
@@SeekerofTruths yh like there never were any exploitation in socialist countries lol.
ldk if you know, but that socialist staple that is forced labour is actually human exploitation, shocking right ik ik. Labour, that is forced, is exploitation?? whaattt!! whoah! who would've thought.
And if you also aren't aware, the soviets literally turned the 4th largest lake in the world into a desert. So yeah, sorry waking you up from your delusion.
@@TTCanadaJapan id rather not get into a back and forth on this. If you think things are perfect the way they are today and there is no point in wanting a better world then....enjoy I guess?
@@SeekerofTruths never said the world is perfect, just that alternatives, socialism in particular, are no better and are just gonna make things a thousand times worse.
Its Indonesia, so is it any surprise.
we should boycott Kellogs products..
So very wrong and sad
It’s normal when they have no income
My research we just need only need at least 30 per cent of forest each country that produces it that’s all we need to feed the population
Let's give a large portion of this palm oil to the natives and get nothing back... Or let's sell it to the word for millions of dollars and live in luxury..
I know what I would do.
This is why I don't buy their products
the fact that the dollar is there currency speaks volumes . pakistan and india are aware of this situation and should stay well clear of it .and being ripped off .
Really?! Indeginous ppl getting screwed over by Corperations?!
straaaange 🤔
When we talk about Indonesia, economic growth of the whole nation is always more important than small problems of one tribe and than environmental issues. That's right. Local officials have to work with dissatisfied jungle tribes, and if local officials do not serve the population properly, it's also a fault of local citizens.
Gods watching. These people deserve a far better life. Stop serving evil, karma does exist! Take these people out of poverty and the world will flourish. Greed is bad! Wake up or perish 💪💪 peace to all🇬🇧
Are you a goddamn bible bashing Karen?
Peace✌🏻
@@ellieryan4372 I asked you: Are you a goddamn bible bashing Karen?
Yeah, sister. Not sure about ‘karma’, but I *am* partial to a nice chicken *korma* of a Friday night. 🥸
Тут был Кобяков, да?
Did mean shamon ? Probabley eboneezer good and watts notts
God does not look kindly on those who steal and oppress the poor. Justice will be served hopefully sooner rather than later. Hopefully these companies will, because of documentaries like this, be shamed into giving these people what they rightfully owe them and compensate them for the suffering they have had to endure over years. I pray that the boycotting by the few will not just be a conscience salver for them but that a prevailing campaign for justice will be launched. May the Indonesian government also get behind these people even if only because this gross injustice has been exposed.
If not interested to Ploughing producing now announced it unless at the time problem be uncontrollable
It is not your work for other's help previous announced is good
Let's remove ourselves from the third world entirely.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
U say big farmer
You think I'm on it but you Don't know what i.t is do ya 🤣🤣🤣🤣
now'it's will becom global issues 😳🙄😒😒
This is so sad and why the world is shitty!
The Exploitation of these PPl of the Land from Big Rich Company's is Pure Greed and Evil. God will Punish the Wicked. Give the Poor What they are Owed. God Bless Indonesia I'm saddened to Hear. Justice will Prevail.
What are they going to do with 💰 💵 ❔
The bbc needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees
Is anyone really surprised ?
Nope
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
Or big pharmacy ferguson
🤔 corporation=they don't deserve it
The Greek word Pleonektes is a word we use for (greed)what these companies love getting more of which is money
This is relatively old news that I’ve known about since I was in college many years ago. You’re just questionable at times bbc, you make no sense.
You make no sense. The problem gets worse every year and should be reported on every year.
@@garethhanby by the people profiting off of and doing nothing about it? it's just tv - it's not a report.
Salim Group.... hmmm... in almost every calamity, you can usually find a Chinese behind it...
chin you you stole someone else's account details didn't have the intellectual capacity to make your own and you expect us to believe you went to college
@@chinchin9757 People should be aware that they have alternatives, which is to buy products that have responsibly sourced palm oil. Companies that source their palm oil irresponsibly should continually be put under pressure. To suggest a world problem should only be reported once and never again is ridiculous.
RESUME 💧
Surprise, surprise.
Polisi oh polisi kerjamu menyusahkan