Zoro is BETTER than Luffy?! [ONE PIECE]

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Sabo Is BETTER Than Ace?! | Anime Take It Or Leave It #5 [ONE PIECE]
    'Anime Take It or Leave It' is a series where we take your hot takes and react to them!! Today, we collected all of your One Piece Hot Takes to see which ones we would take or leave!!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:35 Rayleigh Is Overrated
    1:16 Dragon is Powerful
    1:53 Luffy Negs Whitebeard
    3:08 Skypiea Is Underrated
    4:03 Marco Trains Luffy & Ace?
    4:35 Rayleigh Vs Yonko
    5:50 Luffy Won't Be Pirate King
    7:07 One Piece Has Bad Pacing
    8:36 Enel is Underrated
    10:04 Shanks Is Powerful
    11:34 GOAT PIECE??
    13:10 Luffy, Zoro, Law, Kidd Top 10?
    14:03 Kuma's Devil Fruit
    14:55 Akainu Is Best Villain?
    16:13 Sanji Is Most Valuable Straw Hat
    17:46 Sabo Better Than Ace?
    19:24 Zoro Better Than Luffy?
    24:04 Outro
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  • @ShonenShowdown
    @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад +133

    Again, thank yall for all the likes and watching the full videos!! P.S. BLEACH IS BACK!! LET'S GO!!!

    • @Repak_
      @Repak_ 2 года назад +1

      Ayo cant wait for the new bleach. Btw who do you think the next srawhat is?

    • @grimstatix5359
      @grimstatix5359 2 года назад +1

      sheeeeeeeeeeesh finally

    • @boszgaming4851
      @boszgaming4851 2 года назад +1

      My guy was sooo excited for bleach I mean we all are attached to it the bgm everything but have to wait for a year 🥲

    • @KON853
      @KON853 2 года назад +2

      2:00 of course Lelouch would say some dumb crap like that🤣🤣🤣

    • @animej2522
      @animej2522 2 года назад +2

      And Hunter x Hunter is coming back soon

  • @deuce219
    @deuce219 2 года назад +20

    That ending was the craziest Luffy slander that I ever heard. As loyal as Zoro been to Luffy and the crew, Luffy has been just as loyal or even more so.
    Luffy tore Arlong Park down for Nami. He help save Usopp village , He declared war on the world for Robin, Forced Franky to live his dream, Went to Whole Cake went against a Yonko for Sanji. Went to help Vivi save her country because she his friend. He locked himself in a mirror world with no plan to escape to stop Katakuri from getting to the crew.
    I can keep going but the point is that Luffy loyalty to his friends and Crew can't be questioned and can't be used to say he not a better character then zoro. Luffy is the guy that makes everybody else want to achieve their dream and help him including Zoro

  • @_x_kayla_x_8149
    @_x_kayla_x_8149 2 года назад +97

    I'm Not Here For This Luffy Slander... Yes Zoro Is Loyal To His Captain But Let's Not Act Like LUFFY AINT LOYAL TO THEM !!! Lets Not Forget The Fact That He Brought Down Arlong Park For Nami, He Declared War On The World Government For Robin, Punched A Celestrial Dragon For Disrespecting His Friend, Pulled Up On Whole Cake Island With The Smoke Just To Get Sanji Back... He Is More Loyal To His Crew Than His Crew Is To Him Stop Playing On Luffy Name

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад +31

      FACTS!!

    • @leonkastilyo7463
      @leonkastilyo7463 2 года назад +7

      Not only to his crew, remember how Luffy sacrificed his only way back to sabaody to help Margaret; not only that he also ordered zoro to save smoker from dying in alabasta

    • @ABoredGod
      @ABoredGod 2 года назад +1

      @@ShonenShowdown this is a bot

    • @revenantronin8377
      @revenantronin8377 2 года назад +9

      Plus, Luffy literally scaled a mountain with his bare hands while carrying a sick Nami and a weakened Sanji with his teeth, in a very cold terrain while losing blood himself! People just don't appreciate anything because Zoro and others like Sanji and Jinbei only do things like this once in a while(which makes it seem more impactful) compared to Luffy who does it EVERY arc.
      "Nothing happened" was great, but it's not touching what I just laid out. Even Luffy as an 8yr old kid got tortured by pirates for a day because he wouldn't betray his brother who was mean to him.
      Zoro's "Nothing happened" in my eyes is on the same level as Sanji's "I needed a light", yeah Zoro set Luffy straight when he was about to allow Ussop back into the crew without consequence but Sanji checked Luffy and tried to de-escalate things BEFORE they got worse(Ussop just didn't listen, and Luffy did), the same energy.
      I love Zoro but I'm not putting him above Luffy in anything.

    • @kunilsen2519
      @kunilsen2519 2 года назад

      Its beacuse it is the standard for him. Its stupid, I know. But because Luffy is constantly doing things like that, people expect that from him. But when anyone else show badassery and loyalty they get a much bigger reaction and aprishiation.

  • @manofculture8666
    @manofculture8666 2 года назад +98

    Luffy is suffering from what I call *"MC Backlash"*
    People hate on him OR don't appreciate his growth simply because he's the MC.
    If Zoro was the MC, people may deny it now, but I can GUARANTEE he'd get the same treatment.
    When you think about it, every Strawhat has grown in their own way.. but in the end, Luffy is still spontaneous.. Zoro still lacks sense of direction.
    That's not lack of character development, that's just who they are.

    • @leonkastilyo7463
      @leonkastilyo7463 2 года назад +17

      I think some people only see those drastic change as character development and leaving out subtle changes as such (or they’re just not reading attentively to see those) (ex. In Drum island Luffy was quick to pick a fight when Nami was sick and Vivi had to teach him how to behave when they need help, then look at Amazon lily Luffy bowed down to save margaret. and for me that’s character development)

    • @thiccroman
      @thiccroman 2 года назад +4

      Not hating on Zoro, but I do think he gets WAY more love than he deserves. Dude is usually just boring.

    • @latima123ify
      @latima123ify 2 года назад +1

      Even then people who hate him are just really vocal about it. Luffy has been getting number one in popularity polls since one piece started and was still number one when the world was able to vote on it

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 2 года назад

      @@leonkastilyo7463 , Luffy bowed to Boa Hancock because Vivi made Luffy into a beta male, and if it were Zoro on Amazon Lily he would have definitely kicked the ass of the strongest sword fighter on Amazon Lily and won, and outside of One Piece whenever have you ever seen a King bow to his loyal subjects because more than often in real life the loyal subjects bows to the King and not the other way around, and I’d say that characters like Zoro, Rayleigh, Jinbe, and Shanks have put a more positive influence on Luffy’s life than characters like Garp, Sanji, Usopp in Water 7, Nami, etc etc.

    • @parzival8262
      @parzival8262 2 года назад

      @@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr I think the most kingly action you can do is to bow your head and recognize that some conflicts dont have to be resolved through fighting. Stop acting like Zoro is a god hes a great character but that doesn't warrant hating on other characters.

  • @christianshultis5178
    @christianshultis5178 2 года назад +25

    Zoro only has to hold it down when Luffys slippin but 90% of the series is luffy holding it down which is why zoros moments stand out more

  • @moechannels6355
    @moechannels6355 2 года назад +76

    Haki was foreshadowed from the time Shanks rescued Luffy. Let me explain, we knew that Shanks was somewhat powerful in the early stages of One Piece, but we also knew he could not have been a devil fruit user because he hopped into the sea to save luffy, but was not affected by the sea like a devil fruit user would be.

    • @stunnauchiha5644
      @stunnauchiha5644 2 года назад +12

      Facts he used conquerors haki

    • @irfanabdulkader5988
      @irfanabdulkader5988 2 года назад +7

      the thing is. its just a complete coincidence. oda just somehow does things

    • @impact1x581
      @impact1x581 2 года назад

      no its not lmao that was foreshadowing

    • @royalfun1031
      @royalfun1031 Год назад

      @@impact1x581 My ass

  • @jcoop373
    @jcoop373 2 года назад +95

    Let’s go! I’ve been so hyped for a one piece take it or leave it for months. Keep up the fire content.

  • @fictionjunkie
    @fictionjunkie 2 года назад +10

    Chris, Chris, Chris you kind of blew up your own point. The " nothing happened" moment in Thriller Bark was an amazing Zorro moment but if you really look at it, it's the moment that made Zorro realize hands down that Luffy was on another level even back then. Before taking that pain I think Zorro saw himself as on par with Luffy until he realized that that was the kind of pain Luffy takes on for the crew and smiles.

    • @dylantrent3174
      @dylantrent3174 Месяц назад

      Zorro was already messed up tho so it's not comparable if zorro was completely healthy then u could say that

    • @fictionjunkie
      @fictionjunkie Месяц назад

      ​@@dylantrent3174 you're completely missing the point I'm making. After nothing happened Zoro felt he wasn't strong enough to be the crews pillar because the gap between him and Luffy was way bigger than he thought.

  • @Zeblon44
    @Zeblon44 2 года назад +13

    The slander on luffy makes no sense cuz the reason zoro is a great character is BECAUSE luffy is a great character imo both characters need each other equally from a character stand point.

  • @monkeydee
    @monkeydee 2 года назад +12

    Luffy is straight up the best MC imo. Idk why ppl have the audacity to say that Zoro is SIGNIFICANTLY a better character than Luffy. That is straight up false.

  • @rbkishere
    @rbkishere 2 года назад +41

    The whole point of the story is that luffy is going to be the king of the pirates.
    Each and every straw hat at some point of the story reffred to luffy as the man who will become pirate king.
    So, now it is not only luffy's goal to become pirate king rather it is all of straw hats goal too to make him king. And one day he will become the man who will pass on the legacy to the next generations.

    • @txng4322
      @txng4322 2 года назад +1

      exactly cause if he doesnt become the pirate king by the end of the series then whats the point of the series

    • @snickrdoodle3113
      @snickrdoodle3113 2 года назад

      @@txng4322 if luffy doesn’t become king of the pirates then we will have to suffer through more and more chapters of one piece which will be dialogue’s of memories and things luffy did

    • @byeodragon5523
      @byeodragon5523 2 года назад

      @@txng4322 one piece , to find the one piece!
      Black beard might be the king of the pirates first , and then luffy kicks his ass
      Tho luffy seems to want to be the pirate king , its only cuz He is interested in being free and finding the one piece while having fun and adventures with his crew!

    • @txng4322
      @txng4322 2 года назад

      @@byeodragon5523 my guy if luffy doesnt become the pirate king after he made the promise to shanks, and deadass preaches it throughout the entire show, even his crew mates says hes going to become the pirate king, if he dont become the pirate king at the end of the series after all of that then the series wont make any sense, i dont have a problem if BB becomes the pirate king first cause then luffy would still become the pirate by the end of the series

  • @Vavant245
    @Vavant245 2 года назад +180

    I don’t think zoro is a better character than luffy, I do believe that zoro has done more for luffy then jinbei has done however. Not to say that jinbei isn’t important by any means, just that zoro has been with the crew longer and has done way more for them than jinbei so far.

    • @harshbhosale2061
      @harshbhosale2061 2 года назад +19

      I think in marineford and post marineford + in whole cake island this things puts jimbe on par with Zoro of what they have done for luffy
      Edit- not to forget jimbe gave his blood to luffy in fishman island

    • @user-vb6df4sd8d
      @user-vb6df4sd8d 2 года назад +14

      Zoro as a character is the most bland straw hat the guy has had nothing new for a very long time

    • @_Rambo.
      @_Rambo. 2 года назад +12

      lets be honest replace zoro with jimbei in thriller bark. Jimbei is gonna box kuma toe to toe unless kuma gives the same deal, hes gonna take luffys pain sameway zoro did. Other than that eversince jimbeis appearance he’s been showing hella loyal feats even when he wasn’t apart of the crew... Zoros loyal feats are obviously the thriller bark kuma sitch, usopp sitch those are the main ones ofcourse. But put that alongside jimbei, theres no clear edge from zoro if anything its jimbei. Zoros been around the longest but jimbeis been around the shortest and has shown the most loyal features from a strawhat.

    • @harshbhosale2061
      @harshbhosale2061 2 года назад +4

      @@Naveed22666 hey I remember you from a war in comment section agianst some narutards 😂

    • @lolmariolink
      @lolmariolink 2 года назад +8

      Honestly saying Zoro is one of the best characters is cap in my opinion; at least lately. Zoros still cool as hell and obviously strong; but in terms of personality and character he's been slacking lately in my opinion. Hopefully he turns it around though; but I just haven't been as big a fan of Zoro since the timeskip happened.

  • @2301WAYNE
    @2301WAYNE 2 года назад +39

    From The Moment I Started The One Piece The Only Thing I Can't Decide Is Choosing Between Luffy And Zoro Both Are The Number 1 For Me, And In My View Sabo Does Show More Care And Love For Luffy, Because He Have Already Lost Ace The Moment He Remembered Him, And That's Very Traumatising Which Sabo Doesn't Wanna Suffer Ever Again, This Does Not Mean Sabo's Caring Would Have Been Reduced If That Didn't Happened It's Not At All Like That, But Because Of That Sabo Became More Reckless When It's Come To Saving His Brother Luffy, I Do Agree That Sabo Is More Reliable Brother But Not At All Agreeing That Ace Is Overrated As Ace Is Not Overrated And Ace Does Deserves Every Love He Gets, As Ace Have Too Many Things Going On With Him From The Moment He Was Born To The Moment He Died, And With That Many Things Even Caring For Someone Is A Huge Thing As A Person, So Ace Is Good, Caring And Loving Brother But Just Like Luffy He's Way Too Much Reckless Than Sabo, Which Makes Sabo A More Reliable Brother As Sabo Does Reckless Things Too But In A Calculated Way, So In A Way Sabo Does Calculated Reckless Things!

    • @xiarn1
      @xiarn1 2 года назад +2

      Such a good way of putting it!

    • @2301WAYNE
      @2301WAYNE 2 года назад

      Thank You!

    • @autumndjinn9622
      @autumndjinn9622 2 года назад +2

      Man it's amazing, but please edit your comment and remove the all caps for every starting word.

    • @2301WAYNE
      @2301WAYNE 2 года назад +1

      Well, Yeah Dude Actually I Do Like To Type The First Ones In The Capital To Make Them Important, And Some Of The Many Reasons That Is Dear To Me, So Sorry If It Troubled You And Yeah I Still Would Have Edited It For You, But Now That I Am Seeing It I Have Written Way Too Much, But I Would Edit It If You Still Want Me To Do Edit It, Dude!

  • @vedaanth351
    @vedaanth351 2 года назад +33

    I SHALL SUPPORT SABO ALL THE WAY

  • @scooterlooter420
    @scooterlooter420 2 года назад +7

    This is why im still on this earth. For actual good content from op youtubers

  • @julianlowry2610
    @julianlowry2610 2 года назад +5

    Rob, you should have said well Jimbe saved Luffy's life multiple times in Marineford, and is the reason why that scar on Luffy's chest didn't kill him

  • @jullz617
    @jullz617 2 года назад +1

    It’s honestly great to see Chris back on the Chanel. You guys have perfect chemistry with one another and I honestly think your debates with him are some of the most entertaining! Keep the heat coming bro!

  • @yarou3372
    @yarou3372 2 года назад

    One of my favourite channels. Basically like everything. Keep the good work up my g 💪🏽

  • @garvspark3299
    @garvspark3299 2 года назад +4

    Yall should do a part 2. That was amazing

  • @erentf4743
    @erentf4743 2 года назад +3

    your channel deserves more love keep up the good work :))

    • @wamu5204
      @wamu5204 2 года назад

      We got same pfp lol anyway I agree

  • @gumbo4957
    @gumbo4957 2 года назад +1

    Love ur vids keep up the good work

  • @KingDreams
    @KingDreams 2 года назад +12

    The Zoro vs Luffy debate was funny as hell, we might need a full debate on this 😂😂😂

    • @JK_073
      @JK_073 2 года назад +1

      That would be cool, but I swear the debate is pointless, like who really thinks Zoro is a better character than Luffy anyway😂

    • @drchinmayiprajapati8864
      @drchinmayiprajapati8864 2 года назад +1

      @@JK_073 I like Zoro more than luffy

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 2 года назад +1

      @@drchinmayiprajapati8864 , Zoro’s also been my all time favorite character in One Piece since his very first introduction to the story in the East Blue Saga, so you’re not the only person that likes Zoro the most out of all of the One Piece characters.

    • @aidenstamers3435
      @aidenstamers3435 2 года назад +2

      Luffy is more popular by votes Zoro is second NAMI is their abd Sanji is Fourth

  • @hisamsaad940
    @hisamsaad940 2 года назад +11

    my fav chracter is zoro but when you look back what luffy did for his crew i think luffy is better character. and if zoro is ur fav character that does not mean he is better character than any other in one piece . look at the both sides and decide, if you only look at zoro and dont look at luffy, its like levi has blades and that is luffy weakness that means levi claps luffy

    • @jeffj3976
      @jeffj3976 2 года назад +7

      He talks about zoro and his qualities and forgets luffy lol .Luffy easily better

  • @ElderBaguette
    @ElderBaguette 2 года назад +61

    As much as I love Ace, Sabo claps him to the core.

    • @daksh8561
      @daksh8561 2 года назад +1

      Because he knows haki

    • @49hanihussain86
      @49hanihussain86 2 года назад

      U read Ace novel?

    • @sanjay6596
      @sanjay6596 2 года назад

      Sabo is just a cheap imitation of Ace

    • @oo_doggo4736
      @oo_doggo4736 2 года назад

      @Tevin Aponsu the dr stone artstyle one?

    • @calvinsimpson1301
      @calvinsimpson1301 2 года назад +2

      I agree, but Ace definitely had haki. Not sure why people think he didn't know anything about haki. It just wasn't in the story when he was alive

  • @abdihafid2639
    @abdihafid2639 2 года назад

    It’s been a while since we last saw a take or leave it video. Glad it’s back 😊

  • @harshbhosale2061
    @harshbhosale2061 2 года назад +14

    I do agree it's the greatest anime of all time (not saying its best/perfect)

    • @idk-rr4gy
      @idk-rr4gy 2 года назад +2

      greatest anime of all time means best

    • @boszgaming4851
      @boszgaming4851 2 года назад

      @@idk-rr4gy but there is no such anime as best every anime has something good and bad.... I mean the shonin ones but talking abt anime with small no of episodes 😁

  • @tsfocus8317
    @tsfocus8317 2 года назад +49

    What Zoro and Jinbe held down:
    Water 7: [Zoro] Zoro held it down for the crew to not accept Usopp back until he apologize.
    Thriller Bark : [Zoro] Taking in luffys pain for the stake of the crew
    Marineford: [Jinbe x2] Jinbe assisting Luffy to save his older brother/taking the blow from Akainu while carrying luffy.
    As well as reminding Luffy he still has a crew to live for when he was shatter.
    Marineford: [Zoro] Putting his pride aside to bow down to Mihawk to get stronger for Luffy and the Crew
    Fishman island: [Jinbe] Giving Luffy a blood transfusion even though it was looked down upon.
    Whole cake island: [Jinbe] Standing down against the likes of Big Mom. Staring into the face of an emperor knowing theirs nothing to be afraid of just to join Luffy crew.
    Let me know if I missed anything.
    But it was a blasphemous take to say Zoro was a better character than Luffy. From the list above would that also mean Jinbe is a better character then Luffy?

    • @revan9121
      @revan9121 2 года назад +9

      Was it blasphemous? I mean... You can like one character trait more than other and that's subjective.
      Personally I like Zoro more than Luffy. Luffy is amazing, but i simply like Zoro better. I could go into detail, but it won't matter due to the fact that you can like a character trait more than the other.
      That's the beauty of One piece, there's ton of characters to love or choose over the other.

    • @scottiecurrie7927
      @scottiecurrie7927 2 года назад +17

      @@revan9121 You can like a character over the other but that doesn't mean they're objectively better. Luffy simply has the better writing rn because he's the captain, but damn so I love Zoro

    • @tsfocus8317
      @tsfocus8317 2 года назад +2

      @@revan9121 I understand what your saying but that wasn't my point. Usopp is personally my favorite character in the straw hats aside from Luffy. But narratively it doesn't mean he would be the "better" character in the story.

    • @sv4647
      @sv4647 2 года назад +10

      Also Jinbei stopped luffy from fighting Blackbeard in Impel Down while Magellan was on his way.

    • @troy812
      @troy812 2 года назад

      if youre saying zoro is better youre also saying jimbeis better. Thats what i think he meant

  • @danila9690
    @danila9690 2 года назад

    Good vid

  • @vedaanth351
    @vedaanth351 2 года назад +2

    ur vids are really good

  • @sharathk8510
    @sharathk8510 2 года назад

    I love this mate!!! at 20:10 he was so funny!! [sorry for my bad english]

  • @raghavvgarg3923
    @raghavvgarg3923 2 года назад

    First btw amazing vids u r soo underrated

  • @silvershurik3n421
    @silvershurik3n421 2 года назад +1

    idk why I’m just now realizing this, but how does this man not have atleast 100k subs. Probably one of if not the most underrated ytber I’ve ever seen.

  • @fleazygoat5508
    @fleazygoat5508 2 года назад +1

    yall gonna be the best youtuber dual

  • @zaczac9242
    @zaczac9242 2 года назад

    Underrated channel no cap

  • @LZ_18
    @LZ_18 2 года назад +23

    Rob just so yk, there's no confirmation that Shanks fought Kaido. In a sbs it was confirmed that Kaido only had King on his side while Shanks had his whole crew. Not saying that Shanks is weak but Kaido's the strongest creature for a reason

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад +16

      Yeah I found out after recording this, but Kaido’s personality makes me believe he wouldn’t turn away easily

    • @surdine6671
      @surdine6671 2 года назад +14

      @@ShonenShowdown That's true, but Shanks and his crew came to marineford without a scratch. No physical conflict with Kaido could result with the red-haired pirates in perfect condition.

    • @ayeekoolaid520
      @ayeekoolaid520 2 года назад +4

      @@surdine6671 that’s true but kaido still puts shanks in his top 5 strongest. Just saying

    • @MrCam242boi
      @MrCam242boi 2 года назад +3

      @@ShonenShowdown I personally believe the shanks and Kaido meeting went like shanks and whitebeard meeting. They clashed and shanks offered Kaido some premium alcohol

    • @surfr.8706
      @surfr.8706 2 года назад +1

      @@MrCam242boi sounds about right. 😆

  • @romariosargeant5059
    @romariosargeant5059 2 года назад

    This video was good i need to see it again for more and different shows

  • @Zagy010
    @Zagy010 2 года назад

    Another Bangerrr

  • @emperorxkiing3231
    @emperorxkiing3231 2 года назад +2

    The editing quality has gotten a lot better

  • @itzmotionz4458
    @itzmotionz4458 2 года назад

    YESSS THE VIDEO IVE PRAYED FOR IN MY DREAMS

  • @jessecourt624
    @jessecourt624 2 года назад

    Bro just off the thumb nail i knew this was a banger you gotta make more content with chris

  • @joyboy1607
    @joyboy1607 2 года назад +5

    I never seen any character like luffy in any anime his determinations, does'nt fear anyone, do anything for his nakamas, a character proven to be followed & acknowledged by everyone
    & also dumb & funny. & a dumb & funny MC is always fun to watch.

    • @jeffj3976
      @jeffj3976 2 года назад

      His debate is soooo dumb ,so because zoro is loyal and has helped the crew when luffy couldn't just once soooo also told luffy the right thing once out of the whole story he is better .

  • @-eeee1365-
    @-eeee1365- 2 года назад

    These takes got me out here sweating, but I agree with everything y'all said!

  • @itzcj9
    @itzcj9 2 года назад +16

    Can we have a take it or leave it for versus battles?

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад +7

      This would be fire!

    • @scottiecurrie7927
      @scottiecurrie7927 2 года назад

      I would love this. It would spark plenty of great talks

    • @SamuelRondreigz4720
      @SamuelRondreigz4720 2 года назад

      @@ShonenShowdown I feel like Blackbeard is like Luffy’s Rocks

    • @SamuelRondreigz4720
      @SamuelRondreigz4720 2 года назад

      @@ShonenShowdown what the other guy said about Zoro is true but Jimbe has done the same, and Luffy has done the same for the rest of his crew in that regard they’re all equal

  • @Mendo117
    @Mendo117 2 года назад +2

    Sabo right here from SS discord. You know I had to tune in for this one🍿🥤

  • @TaeDawgMadFresh
    @TaeDawgMadFresh 2 года назад +1

    Your so close to 90k I feel so nice to say I’ve been here since 20k

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад

      Appreciate you for supporting for so long!!

  • @elimiliza7008
    @elimiliza7008 2 года назад +3

    For the anime vs manga one. I would leave it. I'm primarily a manga reader of One Piece mainly because of the slow pacing of the anime, but there are moments where the anime does a fantastic job of handling the moment in the manga. Like I don't think anyone would balk at the anime when it counts. I remember reading the Katakuri vs Luffy fight and thought, "Man I really want to see how the anime handles the fight here." If I recommend a person to One Piece, I would strongly suggest reading the manga, but won't discourage them from watching the anime. If they told me they would watch the anime, I might suggest looking at a website where they show which episodes are pure filler since there are a few I do not care for. Even then I would tell them which filler episodes I do like (G-8 or Sanji helping the marine trainee to make curry) because I think they are fun or interesting perspectives on characters.

  • @alquimistaZ2
    @alquimistaZ2 2 года назад +8

    I love Zoro, but Luffy is a much more interesting character. Watching him grow from a reckless and silly kid into a reckless and silly pirate emperor, from learning humility in Drum Island and responsability in Water 7. Before Time skip I would've said Zoro had a better backstory, but after Marineford we learned a whole new side of Luffy. Deep down, this happy go lucky pirate captain is a child who fears being alone. Oda also manages to make him be shaped by the world around him. Luffy wasn't aware, but since he was a kid he has hated what the Celestial Dragons stood for, since they "killed" his brother. Luffy is somewhat of a chosen one character (which I don't personally like), but his childhood informs us why he he is headed in this path, making it believable. Luffy is a character that, on paper, feels like a generic shounen protagonist, but Oda made him into someone that even as an adult I can look up to. Sometimes Zoro feels too stoic and one note to be engaging, he has a great backstory and some top tier One Piece moments, but he can easily fade in the background in most scenes due to his demeanor.
    Either way, that's just my take. Loved the video

  • @xiarn1
    @xiarn1 2 года назад +4

    8:56 misconception his Haki was basic observation but he used it in conjunction with his devilfruit to achieve a clairvoyance effect

    • @fafoniro5087
      @fafoniro5087 2 года назад

      yes hello , i am the guy who made the take , and i agree. after that video i had dug in deeper and realized that his devil fruit actually increased the range of his observation haki. This opened another point for me though , i now believe he has a high potential to have elite observation and paired with his probably further developed devil fruit.

  • @roam980
    @roam980 2 года назад +67

    To put it simply, Sabo only exists to replace Ace, as he merely fills in the big brother role in Luffy's life, and the only difference is that Sabo is almost too perfect in every aspect. If you we're to remove Sabo from the story, I honestly wouldn't see much of a difference in the main story outside the fight that broke out in marjois

    • @surdine6671
      @surdine6671 2 года назад +22

      Yeah, but in defense of sabo's character, unlike ace, his story isn't done. Oda likely has plans for him later on. On top of that, his character was able to give us a lot of insight into the revolutionary army. But yeah, as of right now, he hasn't served much of a role in the story.

    • @stunnauchiha5644
      @stunnauchiha5644 2 года назад

      Facts he came we met him then was barely saw or talked bout ever again same as ace until his life was in danger same as ace

    • @zeek4411
      @zeek4411 2 года назад +2

      I mean-
      if sabo wasn’t in the story, jesus burgess would’ve reached luffy

    • @xiarn1
      @xiarn1 2 года назад +3

      I agree I feel like Oda wanted Ace to die for Luffy's character but still wanted him to have a brother

  • @beenknew7274
    @beenknew7274 Год назад +1

    I’m jus here for the fun times these gentlemen bring because I love what they do and I’m be arguing w them thru the screen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🖤💯respect and love to all of them

  • @mrclean559
    @mrclean559 2 года назад +4

    20:08
    “when the crew the crew was going left, Zoro was …” he was too busy going the wrong way

  • @suuuperanime
    @suuuperanime 2 года назад +12

    This was an EXCELLENT EXCELLENT video. Really enjoyed it gentlemen. Well up until the part Chris said Zoro was a better character than Luffy 😭😭 You has me till then Chris. Zoro gets lost half the time, Luffy way more rounded as a character.
    Also we actually know from the manga where Enel is but won’t spoil it. Skypeia I agree is an awesome arc. One of my favourites.
    Okay so what brought me here Ace and Sabo. That was a brilliant question and shout out to all the take it or leave it questions. It’s a tough one but, I think the point about where they both are in Luffys life is important. Sabo is great but Ace for me, i think their is a better tie and emotional connect between Ace and Luffy. IMO 😅 Keep up the great work 🙌🏾

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate you watching!!! Much love!! And yeah Ace and Luffy had a strong connection for sure. I do feel like it's mainly because they figured Sabo was dead

    • @suuuperanime
      @suuuperanime 2 года назад

      @@ShonenShowdown Always man. I am here for the triggers 😭😅 Yeah for sure regarding Sabo. The loss brought them closer together.

  • @Tyson4192
    @Tyson4192 2 года назад +1

    Thank y’all for using my comment ! This video was dope 😎👌🏾

  • @luffyunity1420
    @luffyunity1420 2 года назад

    Crazy ‼️⚡️

  • @aideng1123
    @aideng1123 2 года назад +3

    That kuma one got me thinking, could you do a series where you review devil fruits, give their abilities and your opinion on them, and at the end give an overrated/underrated and a _ /10

  • @japratt6594
    @japratt6594 2 года назад +1

    can we just appreciate his intro
    day 2 of asking rob to make if anime shows were people (the best songs)

  • @demzy.006
    @demzy.006 2 года назад

    Always a good day when rob drops a vid

  • @Nitro_GT
    @Nitro_GT 2 года назад +3

    One piece being long is what makes it a special anime

  • @albelthewicked3
    @albelthewicked3 2 года назад

    Oh boy!!! Let's gooo!!!

  • @ostrich4698
    @ostrich4698 2 года назад

    Yessir I been missing this series

  • @jerrberrrr
    @jerrberrrr 2 года назад

    Good level headed content ( until Zoro question 😂) Love to see it 👌🏾

  • @spectre3344
    @spectre3344 2 года назад +2

    It's so funny because he seems so serious 🤣 love the videos

  • @MayorOfPenjaminCity
    @MayorOfPenjaminCity 2 года назад +2

    Whenever I see u upload I click right away🤣

  • @epicstuff350
    @epicstuff350 2 года назад +2

    LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!! AND BLEACH BACK WOOOOOO!

  • @craagthar7616
    @craagthar7616 2 года назад +6

    I feel like Robin is under appreciated she’s the one who reads the poneglyphs after all

  • @ichigoglazer24
    @ichigoglazer24 2 года назад

    Yo love the content I’m gonna be representing all the narutards who love your vids when I ask u to do a top 10 most powerful naruto/Boruto characters of all time

  • @gintokisakata3014
    @gintokisakata3014 2 года назад +2

    God bless you rob and Chris

  • @cameronsmith7040
    @cameronsmith7040 2 года назад +1

    Enjoyed the video Shonen, but I have some quick things to say; #1. I don't know if you know this or not, but Ace has all 3 forms of haki, #2. Do you think that Yamato (aka: the new Kozuki Oden) is going to joining the Straw Hats, #3. I love Code Geass, but GOAT Piece is the greatest of all time, & #4. Get hyped for Bleach TYBW

  • @lyon7218
    @lyon7218 2 года назад

    Need more hot takes 😂😂

  • @mightysunfighter
    @mightysunfighter 2 года назад +1

    Watched through the whole video even though I don’t know much about one piece this was hella entertaining

  • @J_2haze
    @J_2haze 2 года назад +2

    Bruh i love this duo you guys r really like zoro and luffy

  • @raghumahadevan8057
    @raghumahadevan8057 2 года назад

    Keep up the fire content🔥🔥🔥(pun intended)

  • @joyboykeem24
    @joyboykeem24 2 года назад

    Rob read my comment and agreed with me with all of the points 🔥🔥🔥

  • @abirhasan643
    @abirhasan643 2 года назад +1

    The good ol intro transition 😢

  • @richurro20
    @richurro20 2 года назад

    I love how you guys both get dressed in suits to do these videos. Looking fresh brothers!

  • @ani_tard5582
    @ani_tard5582 2 года назад

    Rob always finds a way to make my day better and these take it or leave it’s are facts not opinion

  • @kijan.0430
    @kijan.0430 2 года назад +2

    Sheesh, the suits🔥🔥🔥

  • @101Zambrano
    @101Zambrano 2 года назад +4

    I think Chris didn’t pay attention to the last question lol. I also like Zoro over Luffy but the keyword here is significantly. Zoro SIGNIFICANTLY over Luffy? That is a no from me I believe they are both sitting at the peak

  • @Rileyn7theGoat
    @Rileyn7theGoat 2 года назад

    This was the funniest one yet😂

  • @assault3580
    @assault3580 2 года назад

    Does Chris have a channel or something man I like him

  • @Nobodyscartier
    @Nobodyscartier 2 года назад +1

    i never clicked so damm fast in a while

  • @awangthier407
    @awangthier407 2 года назад

    love how they so professional suit on with a tye desk set up. shit are about to get serious

  • @garrettmitchell8656
    @garrettmitchell8656 2 года назад +3

    ALL the Strawhats hold it down. They are all crucial and Luffy needs all of them, that’s the whole point.

    • @jeffj3976
      @jeffj3976 2 года назад

      His debate is soooo dumb ,so because zoro is loyal and has helped the crew when luffy couldn't just once soooo also told luffy the right thing once out of the whole story he is better .

  • @callmefleet
    @callmefleet 2 года назад +1

    14:03 Was that Xenoblade music I heard in the bkg?

  • @MT-jy8ip
    @MT-jy8ip 2 года назад

    8:30 I can say personally this was the case for me. When I started I watched the first few episodes but at some point the pacing became way too slow and dreadful so I went to read the colored manga instead. Right now I only tend to watch the anime when big fights are about to breakdown.

  • @antoniacorrales9148
    @antoniacorrales9148 2 года назад +2

    NOT CHRIS BEING BLASPHEMOUS WITH THE ZORO TAKE ☠

  • @sweetteaarizona8857
    @sweetteaarizona8857 2 года назад

    W content

  • @trohyme
    @trohyme 2 года назад

    The last one is so funny seeing them cutting eachothers lines

  • @2magnet
    @2magnet Год назад

    This series needs to come back

  • @kijan.0430
    @kijan.0430 2 года назад

    Yessir🔥🔥🔥

  • @Cruz1625
    @Cruz1625 2 года назад +1

    Haven't even watched the video and know how its gona go

  • @lord_of_lords10
    @lord_of_lords10 2 года назад

    Wow Rob went through an entire video without standing up
    19:32 Oops spoke to soon 😂😂

  • @laissezfaire4693
    @laissezfaire4693 2 года назад +1

    I COMPLETELY agree with the walk off

  • @kijan.0430
    @kijan.0430 2 года назад +1

    12:50 Chris...
    Not a bad choice👍

  • @mukul1228
    @mukul1228 2 года назад +2

    Love from india !!

  • @SenseiQuis
    @SenseiQuis 2 года назад +2

    I agree wholeheartedly with the Sabo/Ace take

  • @amarazzaoui8904
    @amarazzaoui8904 2 года назад

    Shonen showdown na shonen slowdown Damn you drop to much Heat but you got that drip to compensate for that

  • @jinx5673
    @jinx5673 2 года назад +2

    Wish you did some more black clover content on your channel, but still this video was fire

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад

      The anime ended for now, but I do have a bunch of older black clover content

  • @hobbs1015
    @hobbs1015 2 года назад +4

    I just finished Code gears last week and it's definitely in my top 3 but I don't have it over one piece

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  2 года назад +2

      Exactly!! It’s amazing but not over One Piece

    • @boszgaming4851
      @boszgaming4851 2 года назад

      We can't campare shonin anime to normal ones I mean large anime epi with small ones coz small anime has no fillers but only show their best whereas large ones have plenty of time to show their best😏❤

    • @retro7369
      @retro7369 2 года назад +1

      @@boszgaming4851 I mean there both action anime. If we go by episode count logic then one piece can be barely compared to other animes since barely any anime has over 100 episodes. I’d say one piece> code Geass but lelouch is a better protagonist than luffy (Luffy is an awesome protagonist in his own right though).

  • @KagenoMugen444
    @KagenoMugen444 2 года назад

    19:31 this was hilarious, the way mans just dipped