"Holden was starting to feel like they were all monkeys playing with a microwave. Push a button, a light comes on inside, so it’s a light. Push a different button and stick your hand inside, it burns you, so it’s a weapon. Learn to open and close the door, it’s a place to hide things. Never grasping what it actually did, and maybe not even having the framework necessary to figure it out. No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito. So here the monkeys were, poking the shiny box and making guesses about what it did." - Abaddon's Gate
That sounds very much like the humans tinkering with the alien artefacts in the Strugatsky Brothers' Roadside Picnic, except that their metaphor is that of ants crawling over alien detritus, some of which is useful, some deadly, and none of it comprehensible to the ants.
@@PsychoMuffinSDM Military personnel usually get life insurance through their employers, the same as most people. The difference is, the likelihood of payout is substantially higher for them (as one might expect), so their colleagues/commanding officers make sure the families get what they need, should it happen.
@ I did a tiny bit of research, and it looks like you don’t even need the euphemism to get the payout. One’s death would need to be a result of some other felony for denial.
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The scene with Anna at Jordan's funeral is another of those Expanse gems that tugs at the heart.
@@CasualNerdReactions agreed, is just a shame her first scene was the most unbelievable part of the whole show, and yes that's including the alien stuff.
@@miff227 Have you *never* attended a protest that went a bit too far? If she had permission to walk down the *cops'* side of the line, then she was somebody important.
@@thomashiggins9320 is it in the book that she wished to be there? The TV show makes it look like that was the route from the landing pad to the main building which is ridiculous. Next the riot control policeman would not be listening to random woman. His job is to stop a riot. And no, none of the protests I've attended have ever got violent.
Why just Dr. Strickland? Almost everybody of the research station crew would have similar moral standard. And on playing really, really hard devil advocate.. you do not want to know what kind of research on humans helped first space missions.
@@BanControl Thinking about "doing something for the benefit of humanity" does not describe good or evil. You can do very evil thing to some group when you rationalize it by hypothetical or even real benefit of bigger group.
Ive seen people insisting for years that it was the Sol system that got blasted, but when you slow it down and go frame by frame-ish, you see that the ringed planet is BLUISH, therefore not Saturn, and the next planet the beam passes is Greenish, so not Jupiter. So, it was replaying images of a different stellar system. Clearly it was attempting to intervene in some way.
Even with not seeing this level of detail.. you were clearly shown in the vision that you are moving backward in time, way way backward.. Then some system is eradicated.. and every gate is closed. So it definitely must not be a Sol system, which is opened in "future" to those events.
BOOK SPOILERS: In the book it’s explained that there was a “contagion” spreading throughout the ring network, eventually the protomolecule builders resorted to blowing up whole systems to quarantine it
they released some behind-the-scenes photos from the making of this episode at one point, and it was hilarious to see Steven Strait hanging from a wire rig in his spacesuit in front of a huge greenscreen and Thomas Jane just standing there next to him in normal clothes
You've already watched the next episode at this point so it's no spoiler but if you look at what Holden was seeing when he put his hand into that slot or whatever - he saw everything that had happened so far with the protomolecule, only in reverse... as though it was rewinding time, and then we saw what looked like the inside of the ring only with many holes or portals looking at multiple suns. Therefore it stands to reason what Holden was seeing was something that had already happened in the past, and given that the protomolecule was dormant inside Phoebe for a looooong time before humans discovered it, it almost certainly has gaps in its records.
Greetings from Finland! Just joined! Been enjoying these reactions alot! Great to relive seeing The Expanse for the first time through you reacting to them.
Love it when people fall in love with just how good this show is! Great reaction! Your comments on how Amos doesn't feel fear are very good. He said he hasn't felt fear since he was five years old... What was it we saw when Holden put his hand in and completed the circuit? Looking forward to the next reaction! Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
12:30 The Doctor Reverend Ana's sin: Hubris. The Ring and the protomolecule are not God (probably), but regardless it was presumptive to think she would be contacted.
Straight lines are _rarely_ the quickest trajectories between two points in space. That's especially true when some anti-physics shenanigans puts a speed limit on things.
When Holden was talking to Proto-Miller in the Station and they talked about Eros, the music reminded me of the score that they played during the Home episode. Nicely done! And that vision was just wild, can you imagine what anyone else will think if/when Holden tries to tell them what he saw? Break out the padded jacket!
A fun fact that makes me laugh is that the show was cancelled after this season. Like, what the hell else could you want in a show than what season 3 gave us? Thanks Jeff Bezos for saving the show, and I hope his $600,000,000 (like what??) wedding this weekend goes off without a hitch, but I would have preferred that money to go towards a couple more seasons to finish off the final books in the series.
The issue wasn't how good the storyline was, the first thing that made SyFy drop it was that it was costly, with some people from SyFy giving it the nickname The Expense, which was a major issue because SyFy was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. The second is that the deal SyFy made did not allow it to make money on The Expanse after its first run. Reruns didn't gain it money, and SyFy didn't know how to monetize streaming due to how new that was (and how old fashioned they are). So it was purely a financial issue for them. Probably didn't help that they would have been looped in on what was necessary for season 4, so they would have known that a lot of shoots would need new sets and shooting in locations that hadn't been done before. The expenses would have expanded for SyFy.
"Holden was starting to feel like they were all monkeys playing with a microwave. Push a button, a light comes on inside, so it’s a light. Push a different button and stick your hand inside, it burns you, so it’s a weapon. Learn to open and close the door, it’s a place to hide things. Never grasping what it actually did, and maybe not even having the framework necessary to figure it out. No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito. So here the monkeys were, poking the shiny box and making guesses about what it did."
- Abaddon's Gate
That sounds very much like the humans tinkering with the alien artefacts in the Strugatsky Brothers' Roadside Picnic, except that their metaphor is that of ants crawling over alien detritus, some of which is useful, some deadly, and none of it comprehensible to the ants.
Your reaction to the Ring gate solution to imminent danger was perfect !!!
Ya, it's an insane response.
"accidentally discharged weapon" is a euphemism that is for morale, but also military family benefits/insurance.
I have seen this comment so many times, but I wonder if it is actually true. I feel like insurance companies would for sure investigate and deny it.
@@PsychoMuffinSDM Military personnel usually get life insurance through their employers, the same as most people.
The difference is, the likelihood of payout is substantially higher for them (as one might expect), so their colleagues/commanding officers make sure the families get what they need, should it happen.
@ I did a tiny bit of research, and it looks like you don’t even need the euphemism to get the payout. One’s death would need to be a result of some other felony for denial.
The scene with Anna at Jordan's funeral is another of those Expanse gems that tugs at the heart.
It really does!! Anna has become one of the most interesting characters.
@@CasualNerdReactions agreed, is just a shame her first scene was the most unbelievable part of the whole show, and yes that's including the alien stuff.
@@miff227 Have you *never* attended a protest that went a bit too far?
If she had permission to walk down the *cops'* side of the line, then she was somebody important.
@@thomashiggins9320 is it in the book that she wished to be there? The TV show makes it look like that was the route from the landing pad to the main building which is ridiculous. Next the riot control policeman would not be listening to random woman. His job is to stop a riot. And no, none of the protests I've attended have ever got violent.
@@miff227 Been going to the boring protests then, haven't you?
"No-one on this show is wholly evil", I beg to differ - Dr Strickland is wholly evil.
fair
Why just Dr. Strickland? Almost everybody of the research station crew would have similar moral standard. And on playing really, really hard devil advocate.. you do not want to know what kind of research on humans helped first space missions.
Define evil? As far as he's concerned he's trying to save the human race! Now sure, he's an insane sociopath with no regard for human life...
Disagree. He at least believed he was doing something for the benefit of humanity
@@BanControl Thinking about "doing something for the benefit of humanity" does not describe good or evil. You can do very evil thing to some group when you rationalize it by hypothetical or even real benefit of bigger group.
Ive seen people insisting for years that it was the Sol system that got blasted, but when you slow it down and go frame by frame-ish, you see that the ringed planet is BLUISH, therefore not Saturn, and the next planet the beam passes is Greenish, so not Jupiter.
So, it was replaying images of a different stellar system. Clearly it was attempting to intervene in some way.
Even with not seeing this level of detail.. you were clearly shown in the vision that you are moving backward in time, way way backward.. Then some system is eradicated.. and every gate is closed. So it definitely must not be a Sol system, which is opened in "future" to those events.
BOOK SPOILERS:
In the book it’s explained that there was a “contagion” spreading throughout the ring network, eventually the protomolecule builders resorted to blowing up whole systems to quarantine it
Season 3 of the Expanse is probably my favorite single season of any show - its even better the second time around
they released some behind-the-scenes photos from the making of this episode at one point, and it was hilarious to see Steven Strait hanging from a wire rig in his spacesuit in front of a huge greenscreen and Thomas Jane just standing there next to him in normal clothes
You've already watched the next episode at this point so it's no spoiler but if you look at what Holden was seeing when he put his hand into that slot or whatever - he saw everything that had happened so far with the protomolecule, only in reverse... as though it was rewinding time, and then we saw what looked like the inside of the ring only with many holes or portals looking at multiple suns. Therefore it stands to reason what Holden was seeing was something that had already happened in the past, and given that the protomolecule was dormant inside Phoebe for a looooong time before humans discovered it, it almost certainly has gaps in its records.
Yeah I jumped to an immediate worst case scenario!
Greetings from Finland! Just joined! Been enjoying these reactions alot! Great to relive seeing The Expanse for the first time through you reacting to them.
Thanks so much for joining. I'm glad you're enjoying the reactions. This is SUCH a great show!
Love it when people fall in love with just how good this show is!
Great reaction!
Your comments on how Amos doesn't feel fear are very good. He said he hasn't felt fear since he was five years old...
What was it we saw when Holden put his hand in and completed the circuit?
Looking forward to the next reaction!
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
12:30 The Doctor Reverend Ana's sin: Hubris. The Ring and the protomolecule are not God (probably), but regardless it was presumptive to think she would be contacted.
Straight lines are _rarely_ the quickest trajectories between two points in space. That's especially true when some anti-physics shenanigans puts a speed limit on things.
Merry Chris-tmas, Chris 🎄
😁merry Christmas!
When Holden was talking to Proto-Miller in the Station and they talked about Eros, the music reminded me of the score that they played during the Home episode. Nicely done!
And that vision was just wild, can you imagine what anyone else will think if/when Holden tries to tell them what he saw? Break out the padded jacket!
A fun fact that makes me laugh is that the show was cancelled after this season. Like, what the hell else could you want in a show than what season 3 gave us? Thanks Jeff Bezos for saving the show, and I hope his $600,000,000 (like what??) wedding this weekend goes off without a hitch, but I would have preferred that money to go towards a couple more seasons to finish off the final books in the series.
The nerve!!
The issue wasn't how good the storyline was, the first thing that made SyFy drop it was that it was costly, with some people from SyFy giving it the nickname The Expense, which was a major issue because SyFy was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. The second is that the deal SyFy made did not allow it to make money on The Expanse after its first run. Reruns didn't gain it money, and SyFy didn't know how to monetize streaming due to how new that was (and how old fashioned they are). So it was purely a financial issue for them.
Probably didn't help that they would have been looped in on what was necessary for season 4, so they would have known that a lot of shoots would need new sets and shooting in locations that hadn't been done before. The expenses would have expanded for SyFy.
This series is the definition of tension.
Merry Christmas !!!!
You aren't ready for the truth of the series finale !!!
Great reaction! I enjoy your reactions and comments. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
24:13 she didn't cause it, but she might have been able to prevent it, and she knows that and it's going to stay with her for a long time
I believe, at some point, somebody may have mentioned that The Expanse is a master class in cliffhanger endings.
Just you *wait* . 😈
"THE Sun" doesn't make sence, since there are uncountable Billions of Suns in existence.
It certainly did something to A Sun ^^
Well there's any number of stars out there but there's only one that's 'The Sun' to us.
...Still no seat belt, huh? ;-]
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You break floor, you become floor…
Happy Solstice, Dear Cthulhu Cultists.
^^{;,,;}^^
21:00+ creators of protomolecule try to defend/ destroing all solars systems and they fail... "When u wanna fight/ kill gods, u must sturm sky" W.D.
I usually don't like religious people... but it is impossible not to like Anna ^^
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