good omens finale theories are wild
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- People keep making theories and i keep reading them so i might as well make a video about it.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro gag
00:29 - Intro
03:11 - 7th Episode
06:24 - Coffee Theory
10:30 - Lie Theory
13:43 - Switch Theory
15:23 - Magic Trick You Didn't See (or book of life theory idfk)
31:06 - Outro
thanks to vik and emka for letting me ramble my thoughts out so that i don't go insane :]
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i honestly dislike most theories because they take away from the scene. what happened...happened. it was in character for both characters (as stupid as it might be) and its beautiful writing.
all this to say that this community is going through HEAVY DENIAL (AND I AM NOT AN EXCEPTION)
these two comments are accurate representations of my good omens season 2 thoughts
yeah it would cheapen the writing if "coffee theory" turns out to be cannon :( characters are allowed to mess up or hurt someone and still be understandable and even likeable
Not all theories about S3 take away Aziraphael's accountability. There are theories about Why Metatron tried to break them up (and succeeded) theories about how the Book of Life will come into play, theories about the role Muriel will play in S3, etc.
@@Sentientmatter8wasn’t the book of life theory that Nina and Maggie aren’t real? That one’s just… No…
Hold onto your hats I have the wildest theory of all:
Sometimes characters in TV shows do things we don't like, just like people do in real life.
realest theory
My favorite theory about the kiss :)
sounds a bit unlikely
DAMN NO WAY
EXACTLYYYYYY
I don't know about anyone else, but Aziraphale being literally one of the only non-skinny characters who's allowed to just exist and enjoy eating without it being moralized makes that one person's insistence on him being this lazy guy who only acts selflessly for his own benefit and will not resist food under almost any circumstance insanely uncomfortable.
SHAX literally says something very similar in the last season... When your read of the character is the same as a demons' who's stated motivation is to destroy said character, everyone he loves and gets in the way, who is specifically trying to get under his skin, bestie you might be reading the character wrong.
@@notlurking2128 No for real! I'd even say it goes a step further and frames Aziraphale eating as a _positive_ thing, not just neutral. Crowley loves watching him eat, food or drink is always involved when they're celebrating, and it's even better because he doesn't HAVE to eat. It's purely for his own satisfaction and enjoyment and that's _good,_ the narrative _wants_ that for him
Tbh I never thought of him as being particularly fat, like yeah he's not super skinny or anything but I didn't think he was particularly chubby, nor did I really notice how much he eats (but then again I was more concerned with the overall plot and how things were gonna work out)
@@0XBlondie96X0that's kind of part of it, like if it doesn't matter to you, you'll never notice because the writing is never mean to him. But if it does matter to you (as it would if he looks like you), you can immediately clock Aziraphale as having a body type that is rarely seen without the immediate characterization at least being that the guy is kind of a chump who isn't attractive. And if that character really likes eating, you'll bet that's where the "chubby lazy glutton" archetype gets thrown in
I always viewed Aziraphale's love of food as emblematic of his love of the Earth, which was always a positive character trait. Gabriel expresses distaste for "sullying his heavenly body" with food, but Aziraphale is so connected with humans and their ways that he learns all of the ways to properly eat and drink and treats those who make it with respect. Aziraphale being a foodie connects him with humans in a way that the other angels never could, and that has always, always been a good thing.
Fun fact, all of these theories are correct. There actually is a 7th episode, It’s really hard to find because Neil Gaiman hid it really well (because he is such an amazing writer that writes amazingly). Basically what happens is that Aziraphale drinks poison coffee which, in addition to The Metatron’s alterations to the book of life, induce him to lie. Simultaneously, in an alternate universe (unaffected by The Metatron’s finagling) Aziraphale and Crowley kiss for 15 minutes and then switch places.
What!?
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This is it. The theory that kills all other theories. This is the one that shall henceforth live.
Is this satire I can’t tell
the season was basically about crowley and aziraphales relationship and also getting an understanding of aziraphales religious trauma. people who make up theories like “oh he was drugged” are completely ignoring all that
Yeah highlighting Aziraphale's trauma feels really important to me. All the flashbacks had something to do with Aziraphales relationship with heaven or his relationship with Crowley, and the entire season he was dealing with a weird amnesiac version of one of his literal abusers? My guy was under a lot of pressure. Also people expected him to have changed and grown completely since season 1, but not a lot of time has passed + he never thought of Heaven as bad, just as "some angels doing bad things". He thinks the system can be fixed. He's such a complex character people don't seem to recognise that!!!
Haven't watched the video yet but I'm so tired of these "theories" crafted specifically to shift blame, excuse any event or choice the theorist personally found reprehensible, and ultimately rob the characters of their agency in the story. Y'all need to allow yourselves to process the negative emotions you feel instead of trying to explain them away!
FINALLY SOMEONE SPEAKING TRUTH??? I'm so TIRED of this theories, especially the coffee theory bc Aziraphale need this character developement, it's totally accurate with his toxic relationship with Heaven... We need this ending for them to return to each other properly in s3.
@@draskelThe coffee theory annoyed me so much I had to take a break from the internet for a bit. Have you watched the show??? Do you understand Aziraphale’s character at all???? Did you honestly think he can just GET OVER an entire existence of being abused and traumatized by heaven???? These people do not understand how abusive relationships work and it shows. Aziraphale needs to deconstruct his loyalty to the institution of heaven (Crowley was forced too when he Fell), in order for them to have any semblance of a healthy relationship. It takes away ALL of Aziraphale’s agency.
Amen
Explaining IS processing, to wallow in it is NOT processing.
Also, the notion that him and heven are in a toxic and controlling relationship also ultimately robs him of his agency
You see, toxic relationship robs victims of their agency, so does being secretly drugged.
the theories really irritate me because they both made the decisions that they had to make- aziraphale never prioritised crowley over doing good, we just ignored it previously. and crowley always prioritised aziraphale over everything. We've seen time and time again that Crowley could just leave, if Aziraphale went with him, and leave the earth to its fate, but Aziraphale never would leave because he still believes in the lie he's been fed by heaven, that they're doing good by god. There's no other way that conversation could have ended, even though it hurts.
Right, Crowley asked him twice already in S1 to run off with him. He always says no, he always clings to making a difference. It's totally in character.
@@ericamacs3875 i see ur point but couldn't we take it as S1 az not wanting to do wrong by EARTH, and humanity instead of heaven? he clearly prioritized that over heaven in S1 when he went against what they wanted (an apocalypse) because it would fuck up what he had going on earth? maybe he prioritises doing good in general over crowley but i wouldn't say he prioritizes heaven over crowley (if he really did he wouldn't have lied to heaven about job's children, wouldn't have sheltered gabriel from heaven, wouldn't have even tried to influence the antichrist/adam into being good because heaven barely cared about that they wanted a war) that's why i feel like leaving earth to work with metatron (WHO HE TRIED TO CONTACT ABOUT A PEACEFUL SOLUTION TO GET THROUGH TO GOD BEFORE) is kinda out of character? i mean then again, it is always possible that he just trusts people too easily and believes metatron was just doing his job before
oh and also i agree that s1 has a lot of az believing he shouldn't work with crowley but it ends with them agreeing they cant trust any side except for their own because their lil stunt wouldn't keep them safe forever
oh and also sorry for the long ass paragraph i genuinely just wanna have a conversation no aggression im just excitable
@@riyathareja3760 yes I think this is the same thing? He thinks he can do the right thing, because he thinks he is on the side of good.
But that includes defying heaven yes, and caring about humans in the way those other angels don't. He started on that path with Job, and continued, lying when he needed to.
But all those things are why he wouldn't just run off and abandon humanity.
I actually really like the idea that Aziraphale miracled "A Nightingale Sang" to play in the car, but I think it's probably something as simple as him being too bewildered and distraught to communicate properly when he had the chance, and he just wants to tell Crowley he loves him too before he goes.
I thought it was the car playing the nightingale song bc the car was sad that they split
I like both of these ideas, and I offer one more: the Bentley sings the truth. Whether it’s “Somebody to Love” when Crowley should have been trying to *find* Aziraphale instead of get drunk (find me somebody to love), “Bicycle” when they hit Anathema, “Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy” when Crowley’s rushing in to “rescue” Aziraphale… I guess what I’m saying is, the Bentley plays the nightingale song to remind him that their love still exists.
OMG THANK YOU!! The part where you explained why Zira left without taking anything from the bookshop made me so happy!! People are constantly hating on Zira and saying that he is selfish etc., but he´s literally putting his personal feelings aside to save the world!! Thats selfless as fuck!!
I still wonder whether he had that photo of him and Crowley in his vest pocket or something, though.
I think Aziraphale feels pressured to go to Heaven to protect Crowley. There is the threat that Crowley might be erased from the Book of Life. No one comes out and says it, but that punishment had been mentioned.
@@catfancier270 That's one of the theories, yes; I think she mentions it briefly.
@@catfancier270I'm with you on this, I think Crowley was somehow threatened and Az feels like doing some self-sacrifice. 😅 About the book of life...does anyone know how it's supposed to work? Like yes, it erases you from existence. However, does it work retrospectively as well? 🤔 Because for example if they would erase Crowley and he "never existed" it would create a paradox imo, like the grandfather paradox. 🤔🤯
He’s not selfish for that, but he was self absorbed enough that he thought of course Crowley would want to go to heaven because why wouldn’t he? It felt in that moment like he didn’t even know Crowley at all
I also think that people are hating on Aziraphale too much. I think people are forgetting that Aziraphale wasn't in heaven when they wanted to execute him. He also didn't see how they fired Gabriel. And Crowley never told him because they don't talk with each other about stuff that really matters. I like to think that if Aziraphale knew everything that Crowley knew about heaven and really saw how toxic they are then he would have decided differentley. (It's my only hope that let's me sleep at night...)
You're right, Aziraphale didn't see a lot of what Crowley did, but he's had plenty of his own issues with Heaven. Like the whole thing about Job's children. He does know how toxic they can be, but the difference between him and Crowley is, that he sees Heaven for what it COULD be. He thinks it's only toxic because of the people at the top who don't really care about humans and see them as disposable. Now that he's been offered the job at the top, he thinks he can make Heaven what it ought to be. He even tells Crowley as much. Aziraphale is the idealist and Crowley the realist in their relationship, both of their reactions make perfect sense for their characters, if we like it or not.
Exactly
I think you're onto something about the Bentley just being kinda insensitive. I could be remembering wrong but in season 1 when they hit Anathema on her bike the Bentley starts playing Queen's Bicycle Race song, Like imagine what Anathema must've thought, these guys hit her on her bike then when they give her a lift home they play THAT 💀she probably thought they were mocking her lmao
COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THAT SCENE!! You're so right!!
Absolutely love that part, it felt so good finally having both those plotlines intersecting was amazing !
i interpretated the car and its radio to be more of a reflection of the driver(taste, thoughts and feelings) but yeah pretty much that
I thought Crowley was just being petty or smth lmao, but that makes sense
Weirdly, I didn't even consider Metatron was saying "I have also drank human drinks, I'm just like you, you can trust me!" But it makes perfect sense when you say it.
I just thought it was Metatron being as literal and without nuance as the rest of the angels - he saw "give me coffee or give me death" and took it literally. He is offering Aziraphale coffee, to signify the alternative is death ("If you don't come we'll wipe you and Crowley from the Book of Life/smite you/make you Fall etc".
Not like Metatron LITERALLY threatening Aziraphale with death, out loud. But he thinks humans are "so predictable", that giving coffee or giving death is something to be taken literally, so since Aziraphale is just across the road from the shop and is so human, he too must understand the implications Metatron is trying to make.
Basically what I'm trying to say is Metatron is smart, but only in the same way Gabriel is smart. He's a conniving dick in love with his own sense of power. He thinks he's being clever when he really isn't.
But Metatron is supposed to be higher than the archangels, who are thick as two short planks, so it makes sense he'd be a bit more conniving, so your theory about trying to seem more trustworthy "because I drink human drinks too, not like those other angels!" makes more sense
I love your view on it!! It would be completely in character with what we know of these celestial beings, because this entire season kept pointing out how angels and demons don't really get social cues and sarcasm because they never lived on earth. So it really would make sense that Metatron would take the sentence literally!
@@zemantler What's annoying though is "Otherworldly being is shown to be otherworldly by how little they understand nuance/sarcasm" is so overused.
We've seen it plenty in Good Omens (though to be fair, the book is more than 30 years old) and other media. Autistic traits being used as shorthand for scary/alien/funny is getting tiresome.
@@CiCodiCadnoTbh I don't really see it as tiresome. Overused? Maybe but I think it makes sense. Sarcasm and social cues are so complicated, even i miss them sometimes. I can see aliens/otherwordly beings missing them too, because the way you get taught what winking means, or that saying something in a certain tone means a different thing, is by living and realizing it on your own the more it happens, or by having it explained to you by someone. Yet these beings didn't experience that, so they would most probably misunderstood the situation the first time it would happen. I definitely think alienizing autistic traits (slow speaking, stimming like gestures, staring etc) is definitely harmful and should be stopped, but I just find this one silly and harmless. Of course, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
@@zemantler No, that's totally fair. For me it's more of a frustration when not understanding nuance is played ONLY for laughs/to be scary. It's not because it's bad to do it (after all, like you said, otherworldly beings must miss the nuance of humanity the same way I don't understand certain idioms or jokes used in countries I'm not from), but because it's the ONLY time we see autistic traits on-screen.
Autistic characters are rare. They're either deplorable incel fuckwits (The Big Bang Theory), or spooky kids who are burdens/dangerous to their poor beleaguered parents (Come Play, The Babadook, the TV show Touch) which only goes further into othering autistic kids by making them somehow tied to superpowers and the supernatural. They aren't fully human. Because autism isn't considered fully human.
We're far more likely to see autistic traits in non-human characters, than autistic traits in actual (full) humans. Data, Spock, Drax, and so on.
THAT'S what's tiresome to me. I just didn't explain it well.
I like how Good Omens uses lack of nuance to be both othering and endearing (Muriel is cute and funny because of it, while Shax is spooky and funny because of it) but dislike that I only get to see autistic traits in non-humans.
@@CiCodiCadnoNot related to Good Omens, but Jessie Gender is on the spectrum and has done several videos talking about her own experience and portrayal of autism/neurodivergence in media - both coded (Data, like you mentioned above) and "direct" portrayals.
While the direct subject may be bothersome, I recommend her video talking about the movie "Music".
She points out various tropes but also serious damage that can be caused when someone decides to make a film about a group of people/condition with ZERO involvement from within that community.
Sorry, I know that was long - but I feel everyone deserves to feel seen and I thought you might like some of her stuff.
good omens fandom lives by the rule of "live laugh be delusional"
I love you. I'm sharing this with my BFF.
25:38 thanks for saying this, I’m ace and I find it kind of annoying how much of the fandom thinks of them as allosexual. Like, just because two people (or person shaped supernatural entities) are deeply in love doesn’t mean they wanna have sex.
I've seen many people bring up that Aziraphale supposendly sounded horny in that car scene, and I just think it's a little sad that that's the only thing they saw. Michael Sheen put so many emotions into that line - Aziraphale has just realized he's in love, and he's delighted, confused, euphoric, hesitant. He just wants to stay with Crowley a little longer, because being around Crowley feels good, and he wants to do something nice for him in return. That's how I interpreted it, at least, and I'm ace as well.
Yes, thank you!! 🥺 Imo it's such a breath of fresh air to have a story about deep and unwavering love without the characters immediately jumping their bones....
Don't mention it! I find it really weird how much they sexualize them, even tho it's common knowledge that angels and demons are asexual. Yes, some ace people can feel sexual attraction- asexuality is a spectrum, but its canon that they don't really have any of these needs because well, they are not people. I just wish people would respect that and wouldn't ignore it for their own pleasure. Feels weirdly acephobic.
@@choerim8986 I saw it as him just wanting to be nice too and then felt like I'd missed something when everyone else seemed to think differently about it. I was told that some people are probably just joking around, which... sure, I can go with that, but not everyone, surely. I think some people believe it to be sexual.
Something I thought about when thinking about it too is that angels, by default, are "asexual", if you were insistant on putting a label on it. Therefore, I don't believe Aziraphale is asexual in the sense WE as humans define it. Angels and demons aren't human. Their programming is different to ours. If anything, I believe Aziraphale is less asexual than any other angel, BECAUSE he's learned to enjoy things, understands what it means to be in love, feels lust, etc. The other angles don't care about any of that.
Because of this, Aziraphale was still traversing through an area he has no idea how to properly handle yet. It took him near 6000 years to finally realize he was in love. You don't go from THAT to horny. Present day Aziraphale might have those urges (or not, I'm not going to take away people's headcannons), but not in 1941.
Seriously, I'm so glad this was mentioned. I've seen so many people talking about how sexual the scene with Aziraphale eating for the first time was, and it 'representing his lust for Crowley' or something stupid stuff like that, and it just drives me crazy. There was really nothing inherently sexual about the scene, it confuses me to no extent how people can see eating and think 'ah yes this is sexual in nature.'
I've also seen a lot of people upset about the kiss, saying that the show writers are pandering and that the characters aren't asexual anymore, and I can say as an asexual person I myself don't find kissing sexual at all. Really I'm so tired of allosexual people commenting on character's and real people's asexuality; asexual people can want to kiss, cuddle, and hug and they can also not want to do that. They can even want to have sex. It's not up to someone else to decide a person's sexuality. I don't get how people can see anything remotely romantic and automatically make it out to be sexual. I don't usually comment on RUclips videos but this issue just drives me insanely mad. People can have romantic feelings for each other without them being sexual.
To be fair, the Bently will play other music for Crowley but if he leaves any tapes or CDs in the vehicle for for a fortnight they turn into a Best of Queen. Gaiman has said Crowley listens to Velvet Underground quite a bit.
Either the Bently chose that song or Crowley prepped that song to play after his Nina and Maggie talk.
yeah i feel like he prepped it for when he and aziraphale were supposed to go to the ritz
@@kamilo7473 Exactly, it's usually we don't see him listening to too much else but even in the Radio Drama series we see Crowley listen to various radio stations that aren't Queen as he does in the book too. I do wonder how many Velvet Underground tapes/CDs whatever the Bently allows he's bought over the years after they've turned into Queen and if he really buys them or just miracles them in.
Fortnite is free why would you need to put a CD inside a Bentley to get it? 😛
I've discussed azirapahel's character with a friend and we basically think that the coffee theory kinda dismisses azirapahel's development
Combined with the fact that Neil Gaiman's intention is for the show to end with a third season, I think we're just seeing Aziraphale in the middle of his character arc. He needs to learn that Heaven is corrupt and he can't fix it. If we get a season 3, then I think Aziraphale will finally get the picture and develop as a character. We're just not there yet.
Yes the coffee theory to me feels like a disservice to Niels writing. He -and terry-have built these two characters so intricately that what azi and crowly do is in character, and not just the “they woke up and it was all a dream” narrative that the coffee theory promotes. If someone whole heartedly believes in it then thats ok but i dont believe thats how niel and terry would have s3 set up. They talked about it before terrys passing and i dont think he would have started with “ok but what if they were brainwashed”. Anyway my huge tiny rant over sorry if its a lot
I personally think that a lot of these theories could be compelling to be written as fanfic, but I think that writing them into cannon would completely ruin any character development that has happened in the show. Also, thank you for mentioning that Crowley and Aziraphale are ace. I’m also ace and I personally don’t like that so many people erase that in order to write smut.
Fr i feel so umconfortable when they sexualize them randomly 😭
This is just my opinion I’m not saying the ace one isn’t the real version. But I think it’s like them eating food they don’t have to but they eat because it’s enjoyable. So maybe it’s the same with intimacy.
@@soulsurfer7702 that's a nice thought, ive heard that before :)
im ace and i honestly don't entirely mind people making them intimate; I'm all for creative liberties.
i personally prefer them being domestic and loving toward each other above anything sexual, but i don't mind.
I tend to read fanfic author's notes. There are more asexual smut authors than you'd think. You know asexuality has a spectrum. Some people like to write about things that they wouldn't actually do in real life. Every fandom has AUs where they change the characters' sexualities, genders, kinks, virginity status, libido level, anatomy, etc. People are allowed to write what they like, no one is obligated to read it. Someone imagining a different version doesn't erase anything. The original show and book are still there to enjoy. And no one is stopping people from writing asexual fanfic.
The coffee theory (while compelling) completely ignores the fact that both characters want two different things. Zira wants to make heaven a better place for him and crowley but crowley wants to say fuck all and get zira to run off with him. Do they want to be together? Yes. But they have two different things that they want (if that makes since). Great video btw, can't wait to see what else you make :))
I really think the person who created the Book of Life theory really missed a big point. Which is that Neil lost his friend and the 2nd author of the novel. Season 2 and probably 3 will always read a little differently because of Terry’s loss. While they might have had the basics of what future novels would have looked like and an ending in mind, that isn’t going to change the fact that Neil no longer has Terry’s voice writing half of it. You can hire others to help you bring a similar style but you’re never going to get it to be the same. I think Neil is doing a pretty great job considering these circumstances.
oh my god the book of life theory is the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever heard come out of this fandom. how the hell can you misunderstand the series to THAT EXTENT??? wow. thanks for the video!!
also the OP definitely just wanted an excuse to shit-talk neil gaimans writing LMAO
@@thatoneblueperson9286Okay, that theory is dumb AF imo but they literally gush about Neil Gaimans writing through the 30 pages of theory but they shit on it in this which makes it even weirder.
They don't understand how Neil writes comedy OR romance, which this season was mostly about.
It's definitely interesting to read through BUT my God is the person pretentious throughout, going on and on about their own writing and how Gaiman is too good of a writer to have these scenes written as they are. Which is such stupid reasoning because they're realizing this is how Gaiman writes romance/comedy.
(They obviously have never watched or read Stardust).
@@thatoneblueperson9286 yeh, I read it and I was so annoyed by how much they kept saying how that Neil Gaiman is an amazing writer. I absolutely Love Good Omens, as well as many of the other things he wrote, but even I don’t go on about it _that_ much.
I sort of think that it’s to make up for how much they trash talked the actual things that Neil Gaiman wrote.
blud thought this was Supernatural 😭
I absolutely love season 2 and i feel the ending is very much in character. But there was times and lots of them where i wondered wtf was going on throughout the season.
I love the Book of Life theory too.
If it turns out to be a rubbish theory I will love season 2 no less. likewise i will still love season 2 if it is partly or wholly right
Neil is a great writer. Did he make a gamble on season 2 and risk some viewer would maybe think less of him until S3 hit the streaming? I don't know. If he did ill tip my hat to him in respect but i would do that anyway 🤣 so there is that.
What i am saying is that the theory is interesting. Live and let live
The only thing I thought about with more than two braincells was when Aziraphale said: "I forgive you" to Crowley. I don't think it was meant that way but I wondered if Aziraphale thought that Crowley tried to "tempt" him with the kiss in a last desperate attempt to get him to stay. So he misread the kiss as an demonic act rather than a declaration of love... Again, i don't actually think it was meant that way but it still makes more sense than the google document kashfbkadgvau
(Also: Hey, I loved Sherlock Season 4 >:( )
Neil Gaiman has actually confirmed that the kiss was a desperate attempt by Crowley to get Azi to stay, and it was not romantic, and Azi says "I forgive you" as a distancing tactic. It's obviously not a romantic kiss - Azi didn't consent to it. Gabriel and Beelzebub never kiss, but their love is obvious.
@@shaynaformity1384 I went to check his answer and he said it wasn't sexual, which I agree about. It can still be perceived as romantic though (at least how I see it), like how he said it was a last desperate attempt to communicate from Crowley, in this instance, communicating his true feelings. An attempt to make it clear that he loves Aziraphale deeply and to get him to stay.
i read the book of life theory and one part that stuck out to me was that the author used maggie and nina not immediately getting into a relationship as one of the pieces of evidence because it was wrong?? like ok seeing a classic romantic ending as the only possible satisfying conclusion to a subplot like this (regardless of either character's capacity for a relationship in their lives!) sounds like a YOU problem my guy
Losing my mind over the "magic trick theory" and how the writer just completely rewrote Aziraphale in their own head. Like I understand media being subjective but oof that was a hit and a miss.
I really hope none of the theories are true. If we're given a nice, neat answer in the next season, it would undo all the character growth we got in the finale. For the theories where Azi was threatened to go to Heaven, he just seemed far too genuine in his excitement. And he's a terrible liar.
Some said, that a 3rd season is already on its way, but the writers strike put its development on pause after the first episode and the intended ending... so there would be 4.2 episodes that have to be written still: just spill out everything, you like about the series and its characters, all over the internet for Neil Gaiman to read - maybe he will get inspired by your ideas and incorporate some of the fan-fovourits into the show. Only good stuff you really like and no silly jokes - shipping A&C got pushed forward by the fan-base for this kind of relationship.
OR as Terry Pratchett put it in "Thud!" (upper middle p. 325 of 362) "... the thought in many minds was: what is someone else going to do about this? It had not yet progressed to what am going to do about this?" (a Disc World Novel - 2005)
"That car is a dick." The only theory I care about.
I am SO GLAD that you tore into "The Magic Trick You Didn't See" as much as you did. I've been writing an entire response document, responding to literally every point, to it for maybe the past week, and it's 10k words long and I'm not even nearly done. SO MUCH of it is the author (and they are a published author, surprisingly, with how much they misunderstand character writing) just saying that things are "uncanny" or "wrong" because they either didn't like the scene, thought it was out of character (even though at multiple points they demonstrate how much they don't understand the characters at all) or they didn't like the character at all. They seem to particularly hate Maggie, for reasons that often come across as EXTREMELY ableist.
Pleeease please link your response when it's finished. I need it
dropping a comment so i can be notified if you post the link :>
Yeah please link this when you're done
i need to read this response
I need to read your reply because I disagreed with the majority of that document (the only part I actually really bought was that Maggie isn't quite real?)
more good omens videos to feed the obsession woooo
I think it's likely all a lot simpler than theories allow for. I think so many of the theories are just people trying to manage their response to the last episode and tend to focus in tiny details rather than the larger characters that we've been shown.
I honestly just think aziraphale and crowley both have a shit ton of religous trauma, but since its slightly different kind of trauma with different people, they dont get how the other doesnt feel the same way about heaven like they do :)
“That car is kind of a dick actually” 😂😂
Sometimes, it's a blessing to be autistic, so I don't start fantasizing too much about such theories. I don't even see the obvious hints at first sight and take things for what they are. So I don't get all the jokes and double meanings at first sight, but for example, the coffee theory was the absolutely last thing I would've thought about in that moment. For me, it was part of what the Metatron said about appearing in a more "human" way. He uses a full human body and brings a "gift". As much as creativity should be supported, but some fan theories are getting out of hand.
Just hearing a summary of these theories made my brain hurt
Timestamps!!
00:00 - Intro
03:11 - 7th Episode
06:24 - Coffee Theory
10:30 - Lie Theory
13:43 - Switch Theory
15:23 - Magic Trick You Didn't See or Book of Life Theory
25:19 - 25:51 : 30 seconds of achillean ace rights!!! 😊
31:06 - Outro
Not finished the video yet, just passed the coffee theory and I agree with you that the coffee was only a manipulative tactic played by Metatron. I also think he knew suggesting that Crowley could be an angel again would break Crowley and Aziraphale apart because he knew Crowley as an Angel and he knew he would not go for it. The Metatron is purposefully keeping them apart and he's ultimately the villain here. I wonder if he can still speak to God or if God has withdrawn from reality and the Metatron is only doing what he wants
This is the way I've been seeing it too. It's very obvious the Metatron knew Crowley would never accept his offer and that this would break Aziraphale and Crowley apart. Let's just hope Aziraphale will see through the Metatron's intentions rather quickly in season 3...
A lot of these theories didn’t sit well with me because, as you pointed out, they take away from the brilliant writing of Neil Gaiman. I get people are trying to understand the finale in their own way, but a lot of the theories almost feel like, if they were real, were a cop out or a cheap trick that would totally take away from the angst and emotions both characters go through
Right? Gaiman has been writing for years and is highly regarded in the genre. He doesn’t do cheap tricks or completely surprise twists. Even the supposed twists in American Gods were heavily foreshadowed. I think he takes pride on laying the groundwork for the narrative in a way that makes the reader realize it was there the whole time, not in hiding a reference that only would make sense if you subvert a piece of obscure symbolism. Especially the fact that this storyline was drafted with Pratchett who would never do some sort of Taylor Swift hidden code.
While I'm open to theories, I do feel they miss the point and also kneecaps the ability for characters to make poor yet believable choices. Aziraphale would absolutely want to have the power to change how Heaven works, he wants to make Heaven worthy of Crowley and for humanity.
Somehow when you said “Aziraphale chooses heaven over Crowley “that feels like a punch in the gut🥲
25:37 THNK YOU SO MUCH!!! as an ace i always find it kind of annoying when people constantly think aziracrow just constantly wants to screw each other
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I love joking about it from time to time, but it's very obvious these characters are ace or on that spectrum. They don't need to reproduce so any sexual act would just be more about displaying romance rather than lust (which honestly sounds cute to me. I'm demisexual so sexual stuff to me is very much about deepness cause there was never any initial lust to begin with). Yay for ace rep
I headcanon both of them as ace lmao
listen, i get that people really want Aziraphale and Crowley to be their asexual representation, but idk where theyre getting the notion that these two hedonists who are absolutely in love with and participate in human culture wouldn't want to also explore physical/sexual pleasure with one another. the explanation is usually something to the tune of "theyre celestial beings, they cant experience sexual desire" and i feel like the people who say stuff like that have neither read the book nor watched the show. you know which celestial beings could be good ace representation? Gabriel and Beelzebub. I cant read anything inherently sexual about their relationship. they just seem like two creatures who happened to be pulled into each other's orbit and share a close romantic bond, but dont really have the desire to go any further than hand holding and hugging and cuddling.
thank you thank you thank you.
As an Asexual myself, all the anger about non-asexual representation of these characters makes me so uncomfy. Like, who does it hurt? And does it give you the right to hurt them back by trash talking them on the internet? We all know they love each other, let us be friends as well. 😢
15:00 "no wonder he looked at crowley like that. my man was being held hostage-" LMFAO THAT HAD ME SCREAMING SD9FYDIUYFIUSAYDFIUYASDIUF
But the look that Metatron gave Crowley was even emphasized by the music in the background, I think it at least meant that he didn’t like our favourite demon
here's a cool thought I had: what would happen if Aziraphale drank holy water? Would it be like an energy drink for him? Would he briefly become more powerful? I think it'd be a really cool concept to work with.
Good Omens fandom when characters are flawed and do things that are upsetting 😱😱😱
The people who came up with coffee theory have never experienced religious trauma.
I love people debunking theories, especially if they are super passionate about the source material, so this should be fun.
Your Metatron impression was so fun!
I never would have thought that anyone would call the Bentley a d!ck but... you're not erong, it really is insensitive XD
"My man is being held hostage against his will!" 😂
That last theory sounds wild. I do not believe it at all but I will have to check out if only to see how a person could write about a theory for 30+ pages
I really enjoy your videos, you are a good narrator!
About the magic trick theory: the thing is that as far as we know, the book of life doesnt work like that.
Idk how it is for other religions, but i grew up in one who did actually believe in the book of life, like its a part of the religion. Now the way it works in the religion, is that its god's notebook per say. He writes in it names of humans that he'll place in heaven when times come, as to not forget i suppose(?), he can remove your name from the book and considering said religion believes in annihilationism against humans, its kinda like metaphorically erasing you from existence when times come.
Now obviously in the show it is way different, first off because the book includes angels and demons and second off, because the book isnt about who will be saved (obviously since demons are in it).
But im bringing this up to show that if the show has not established that the book works in a way where "everyobody's lives is being written and controlled by the book" and if a real life religion also does not believe in that concept. Then you actually need proof that the book is supposed to work like that for the theory itself to be considered possible. You cant just say "the book works like that because i said so" 😭
i agree with you on just taking things at face value and not diving too deep unless it's something that really stands out. and even then i have to remind myself that tv shows are still forms of art, in many ways, so things like the tartan hills or jim turning the light on and off and saying '7' in morse code by doing so, are just funny references to other medias or things in the show itself
I think Crowley will still be hanging out at the bookshop in season 3 because he doesn't know where else to go & he or "Inspector Constable " will start reading Aziraphale's diaries & discover something. Not sure what.
Wooow that Metatron theory is a real humdinger. I have never heard a theory that just takes away ALL of the character agency during not only the events of the season but Aziraphale and Crowley's backstory too, while also calling Neil Gaiman a hack writer for not writing the show they wanted to see.
I've been waiting to see someone make this exact video. I keep seeing people make complex theories to try to explain actions and choices that already make sense. Aziraphale going to heaven is not at all as bad a choice as would warrant a plot-altering conspiracy. I sort of think people are so invested in the ship that anything counter to it seems wrong because it requires a deeper reading of the plot/characters. They couldn't have run off to space like Crowley wanted. I mean so much of the show is about humanity and earth, how they provide perspective and make both the main characters better. Of course Crowly made the offer to go to Alpha Centauri, he loves space, his purpose as an angel was creating nebulas. Of course Azi rejected that offer, he loves Earth, he is the principality tasked with the protection of Earth. All of these theories are only necessary if you're denying the fact that these characters have legitimate worthwhile goals and motives besides smooching each other. Just cool down, obviously they're in love, but this is still a show about things like morality and preventing the end of the world and celestial war, there needs to be some room for that in the plot. and those things will cause emotional conflict because that's part of what makes a good story.
it’s honestly wild to me how many people want these theories to be true. like, why do y’all hate character complexity and growth?? lmao
also people acting like aziraphale was totally in the wrong for not choosing crowley but like… crowley was ready to ditch earth altogether and leave them to their fate just to be with aziraphale. twice. that’s not a good thing y’all, aziraphale has always wanted to protect people from the literal beginning. if aziraphale is wrong to ask crowley to return to heaven and be something other than what he is (which isn’t what he meant but is certainly what crowley thought he meant), then crowley is just as wrong to ask aziraphale to abandon his principles to run away. that’s not who aziraphale is at heart. no matter how much he loves crowley, he loves the world just as much and if he has the chance to at least TRY to save it, of course he has to take it.
also! nina’s abusive relationship is a clear parallel to aziraphale’s relationship with heaven. WE can all see it’s fucked, and on some level aziraphale knows it too, but he just can’t escape the cycle of going back and wanting them to love him when in reality they don’t even like him. it’s not easy for people to leave abusive relationships like that.
just… all these theories are essentially Get Out Of Jail Free cards and are so boring. they’re bad storytelling, full stop.
#LetAziraphaleBeMessy2k23
Crowley kissed Aziraphel and the angel assumed the spawn of hell must be "tempting" him, Aziraphel gets coffee he enjoys from a heaven sent and assumed that it must be an act of kindness...
The way Aziraphel perceives Crowley and heaven+god could not be clearer, and ppl are still denying it?
i'm reading the magic trick theory, and it really feels like the whole "season 4's bad writing was purposeful, it was pointing to dream theory/fantasy theory/episode 4 theory" thing from sherlock again, except season 2 of good omens wasn't even poorly written lmao
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO
I love/hate the theories- on one hand they are so creative (i don't think i could have come up with any of them-) and in the one case really well written( like i really liked their writing even if i disagreed) - and while i think some of them make good points, and highlight important bits- i think for the most part they are all blowing things out of proportion- and believe me it took me a while to understand the ending, I rewatched that so many times. Went through all stages of grief even. And all in all, we will just have to wait and see, and I trust Neil to make Season 3 (Amazon not so much, they need to pay people) and for him to deliver a spatacular 3rd season with Crowley and Aziraphale ending up together in south Downs Cottage. And with that I am content. No one likes waiting but i will happily wait for Good Omens- been a fan for 10 years I can wait longer!
The magic trick/book of life theory always read to me as pretentious. I couldn't get through it because the first few paragraphs felt like filler, just taking forever to get to the main thesis XD
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion or not but i prefer s2 more than 1 because it focus more on Aziraphale and Crowley, and they get deeper into their relationship. :) also great video!
I just rewatched the whole series and I 100% agree.
I'm not a fan of the Magic Trick You Didn't see essay because it's way too incoherent and hard to understand. Either way I think reading into the show too deeply and overanalysing is a waste of time. I'm sure there is a few secrets that Neil might have left in the show for us to spot but stuff like eccles cakes is too much. It was clear what Azi's intentions were: he's been wanting to be a good angel all his life, and this is his opportunity to be a good angel. His character is complex and what he did in the end was completely in-character. Even if he wanted to spend his life with Crowley more than anything. That's why it's sad and he's a tragic character.
29:15 it all clicked in my silly little sleep-deprived brain. I don't know how I didn't realise before. Of course Aziraphale went back to heaven after they tried to murder him and Crowley, his whole thing is forgiveness. And he's very good at it
i thought it is also notable, cyanide doesn’t smell like almond syrup, it smells like bitter almond, wich, imo, is a huge difference
The season is the second act in a rom-com, or the middle section in a Jane Austin novel. I liked them better in the book, but we get what we get!
the coffee theory is so crazy bc like. they had the right idea, almonds symbolising divine favour and approval is super relevant, and the coffee is a symbol for something impacting aziraphales judgment, that something being: divine favour and approval
(this was not the only reason aziraphale did what he did)
its so strange to me that there are a lot of angst and heartbreaking fanfictions, fan comics, videos and art about literally any OTP known to humanity. but when this angst is canon and happens in the actual show, suddenly people got mad?
i dunno, i love this finale cause its really in character for aziraphale to not be ready for relationships with crowley and he's not ready to separate himself from heaven, his home. i really like this cause its like a representation of people in abusive relationship with their parents or partners, when they trying to justify the abuse and saying "i could change them". aziraphale literally said that. so it would be such a waste if all this was just cause of coffee or another stupid theory. people need to appreciate not only characters' growth, but the moment there characters are not ready to grow for justified reasons!
The Good Omens fandom just blames the Metatron for everything lol
Omg the document. Un-fucking-hinged.
Edit: I mean no hate for it. But. 😮
I’m obsessed with how you talk about good omens. Thank you for speaking for the fandom. Wish I could send this to Neil G.
When you were doing the opening gag I thought in my head "Oh it's a bit like you're describing the Sherlock fandom circa s4 dropping haha"
So I was pretty caught of gaurd when you talked about it too 😅
can we PLEASE talk about how the book of life theory is just a reskin of the John lock conspiracy (TJLC) for Sherlock or the Supernatural finale conspiracy 😭😭😭
I wanted to mention that actually, I even set it up in the 7th episode part, but then I found out that the Book of life theorys author doesn't like being compared to TJLC and I didn't want to be disrespectful :D What's up with tumblr and these weirdly meta finale theories!
@@zemantler gotcha!! That makes sense, we don’t want to disrespect their wishes. But man 😭😭😭I want to see some analysis of the phenomenon sooo bad, it’s so interesting!
@@zemantler oh but where did you find the part where they said they didn’t appreciate the comparison? I’d love to hear more from the theorist on the subject and can’t seem to find anything beyond “don’t ask me about GO theories because that was my only one” on their tumblr. 😅😅i love their work/fics in The Untamed fandom, and I feel like they’d have really interesting thoughts on Sherlock and TJLC considering their body of work
13:13 Amazing Freddie Mercury impression
My new favorite theory is the Crowley Master Spy theory- based on when he wears the turtleneck. It’s absurd, intriguing and plausible.
We’re all so delusional but I enjoy it so much, at least we’re delulu together
i remember that after killing eve finale people also thought that there hidden episode that there was even extra episode listed on imdb and rotten tomatoes and articles written, but nothing happened
4:20 Cumberbatch played an ACE-ARO Sherlock and I stand by that
Thanks for the breakdown. I'm not into fan theories either, since they so rarely play out the way people think they will when new seasons/movies/etc. come out. After processing for a while what I'm trying to lean on is that in so many romance stories (books and movies), the third act begins with separation. The characters have to be given some big problem to work through so that when they get together at the end it means more. From what I've read Mr. Gaiman really wants a third season also, so here's hoping.
The only thing I find really odd is season 2 is Aziraphale's reaction, more specifically lack of it when Crowley said he is living in Bentley.
1stly: he did react, he made a face. Michael Sheen from what I've seen is quite fond of subtle face acting and such and Aziraphale looked quite confused.
2ndly: they were surrounded by angels and demons who at best wish them harm, how would you want him to react, make a scene in front of Shax and Furfur? I'm sure if Metatron didn't appear and angels left the shop he might have asked about it (or maybe notz since as Maggie and Nina, and even Neil Gaiman say: they don't really talk)
@@duod7847 Nevermind, I rewatched this scene and you can see the subtle acting , thanks for pointing it out
I just finished this show, did not know people were wilin out with theories like this but I really like your takes on all of it, when something is good you'll always have some crazy "fans" who want to dissect everything in a nitpicky fashion. I thought the show was really smart with how they poked fun at Christianity and religion in general! The best part I think about this show are that, even though Az and Crowley aren't human, they are as human as the rest of us.. Also your eyes are so cool! Totally unique color cheers!
its so difficult for people to understand that Aziraphale is sacrificing his commodities on Earth cause he is determined to fix Heaven for him and Crowley to finally be able to be together without having to worry about their relationship being treason? He has been dragged around by Heaven´s agenda during 6000 years, and he finally is presented with a chance to do something good for Earth, for himself, for Crowley, and for their relationship... why would he loose that chance? He is acting out of courage, determination, hope and love. He want to do what he feels is the best course of action for everyone he loves. He is an angel after all!
he is also gullible, Metatron definitely has his own plans for Aziraphale ;_;
The magic trick theory makes me long for the times of crude google doc presentations that were poular on tumblr around the 1st half of 2010s. Apart from the fact that it's obviously very biased and inaccurate, the way its written really annoys me. The OP is acting very snarky and cocksure, bending the material to fit the theory, while sucking up to Neil Gaiman every paragraph.
It seems sort of passive aggressive.
The part kills me, where aziraphael gave away the only weapon in the Garden of Eden apparently to not let 2 of its inhabitants get „uncomfy“😂 like tf. Yeah. I wouldn’t describe it as making sure the won’t get „uncomfy“. I would flipping describe it as saving their lifes. Which worked greatly. I don’t wanna Front this person, but I have the feeling this is a person with a childish mindset. Like I thought like that when I was like 13 maybe. Uncomfy. I can’t believe it
I love the Vibe of Your videos! I Just Feed so Comfy Watching You rambling about a series we’re all hyper fixated about rn (and whoa I love your style :0 )
Thanks for putting in the effort of making these videos whilst staying respectful bc many people can’t seem to accept or at least tolerate theories or opinions others have and it’s just really refreshing to see someone discuss everything on a chill base!
There was always something that didn't sit right with me about the book of life theory and I couldn't put my finger on it. And then I heard your speed analysis and I realised "Oh it was all of it". Also excellent video 11/10
the main reason that the season ended the way it did was because the show runners knew we would lose our minds over it and would jump on season 3 like monkeys. no other reason, get over it
5:55 Not only that God likes sevens, but also Jim made a number 7 in morse code with a freakin lamp :)
The Coffee Theory people are delulu
Honestly, I feel all the theories are delulu. I'm not sure why people can't accept that religious trauma reacts differently for the pair.
i mean, i get that full-on mind control sounds dumb and not quite possible, but it's a royal blue cup on a brown, black and white backround, it has to mean something in some way xd
@@torch_warden8177 a coffeehouse with a blue painted front and blue walls inside, reasonably has a blue cup. It’s a simple design choice it doesn’t need to mean anything besides Nina put some thought into merchandising and brand recognition
@@torch_warden8177 The coffee cup to me represents purely the act of "love bombing" that an abuser does. Aziraphale has never been shown to drink coffee, he doesn't even know what espresso is when Crowley orders it, for instance. So he's brought a sweet coffee as a gift and of course, he's glad to get a food gift from a figure in power because it's giving him permission to eat and drink food, something we know he was wary over early on in his life on earth.
The Supreme being of heaven, the voice of God, gave him a gift. It puts him into a vulnerable state of thinking "I knew Heaven wasn't all bad, there's a way to fix it to work the way I want to believe it should." and then he's offered the chance to do just that. The color of the cup is important because it's one of the most striking colors that's not related to Hell or Crowley. It's color theory visually. Very easy to show this bright blue cup in stark contrast of Crowley(Black,red and yellow coded) the bookshop (yellow and red coded), Aziraphale (tan and warm tones coded) and even Metatron (dark suit coded).
Metatron's suit being dark I think merely represents his intentions but also him being sneaky. Every other angel is shown in shades of white, grey, some gold and tan(Aziraphale and Merium almost exclusively.)
But the coffee to me is just the perfect represntation of love bombing where the abuser will win back the affection by showing brief affection. It also shows that Heaven didn't actually think to LEARN about Aziraphale. They didn't order him a cocoa with almost sweetner, They didn't order him a nice English breakfast tea or green tea(like he enjoys with sushi). They brought him something we've never seen him express any desire for nor drink himself.
The coffee perfectly represents Aziraphale taking ANY scrap of affection from an abuser because he feels safer WITH the abuser than cast out to hell like Crowley. Crowley who he knows is GOOD and Crowley who he knows didn't do anything but question destruction.
So of course he's afraid of angering Heaven but he's also still seeking their approval to a point.
@@sanzoskitten that's a huge possibility, but that's what i mean.
Coffee = mind control in one way or another.
Manipulation, miracles, almonds, idk tbh
But, it messed with Aziraphale's decision, that's for sure.
Great video! I still have thoughts about the Coffee Theory as a maybe, because of the Metatron asking about Nina's shop name, that people are predictable, how he said "I've ingested things in my time, you know..." (okay buddy, what?), but I'm also very in favour, and think I'd like it more if Aziraphale just... made his own decisions without any influence. Manipulation certainly, but Aziraphale's always been naive and wants to see good in Heaven, and every being in general actually, whether they be Angels or Demons. He's just TOO GOOD for his own good, and would be 100% in-character for him to leave, to keep Earth safe, and to keep himself and Crowley safe so they needn't have to be looking over their shoulders.
The lie theory... yeeeeeah, I don't know why people think that's a good theory. Aziraphale is an awful liar, and the whole with him talking to Metatron and Crowley just wouldn't make sense and would just feel really disjointed, because WE as the audience would see something... unless it was all a huge cover up and that Neil had us see something that wasn't really there, but... I doubt that. While I can see Aziraphale working for Heaven if Crowley was threatened, the whole 'come to heaven' stuff wouldn't really make sense to me. Even if Crowley was threatened and had to come to Heaven or be erased from the Book of Life.... why would Metatron just allow Crowley to remain on earth then if he wanted Crowley out of the picture? The theory is messy.
Switch theory? That's a no from me. We don't need another s1 subplot thing, they already did that, it would be unoriginal. No thanks.
As for the document theory... WHAT THE FUCK?
P.S THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE 1941 SCENE! I never saw that line as sexual, but everyone is shitting themselves over it that it was? So I'm like "did this just fly right over my head?", cos I genuinely thought Aziraphale meant it just to be nice. He'd just realized his fucking feelings for Crowley, what, you think he immediately just wants to suck a D? No, that would be completely out of character for him (i.e see the 1960s scene of them in the car with the Holy Water... Aziraphale's not fucking ready). I'm not saying I wouldn't approve of them making out heavily in s3, but good lord people, let the guy get there first at his own pace!
I'm SO relieved that somebody else feels like all these theories are reminiscent of tjlc -- I was very much embroiled in Sherlock tumblr in 2017, and all of this stuff about coffee theory feels so familiar to me 😅 personally i don't believe in coffee theory bc i think the ending was set up from S2E1
you're one of my favorite people on the whole fandom. you're smart, funny and charismatic. waiting for more ❤
Though these theories don't work for me, I still love seeing people making theories about GO. They can always inspired me somehow.
Like here is my little theory of what Metatron thinking about after reading these theories:
"They are too powerful that even a half miracle they made can fool all the angels and demons. Still can't believe that Aziraphale is actually that powerful and useful. I should separate them and bring Aziraphale with me (I don't like the demon. But If I don't tell Aziraphale that the demon can come with us, Aziraphale may reject me) so my lovely plan (Give human death) can goes well :D ."
I wholeheartedly agree with EVERYTHING you said.
I don't agree with the writer of the doc, but has Neil Gaiman answered why their first meeting was changed yet? I get that GO1 was more tied to the book, but why retcon their meeting in the first moment of GO2? I assume that perhaps memories of all fallen angels were wiped from those in heaven to avoid anyone else turning out of a previous friendship with the fallen(Aziraphale+Crowley being an obvious example). So they knew angels fell, they knew who they were, but no memories of interacting with them before the fall. Still I wondered if he's given his own reason.
My theory is that Aziraphale remembers their first meeting at the Nebula but Crowley doesn’t. The S1 was their first meeting from Crowley’s POV, S2 was their first meeting from Aziraphale’s. The whole S2 was about lack of communication and their different recollection of their first meeting is another instance of how they’re coming at their relationship from completely different points.
Your channel is very underrated, great production value 👌 I didnt know any theories so this was very fun
You're doing amazing as a small youtuber! A friendly face and tone makes me feel very welcome and entertained by your video! Great this video popped up for me cuz I want to hear everyone's theories about this finale (im currently digging my grave and putting myself in it)
The thing I’ve realized over all of these theories is that good omens fans literally cannot write 💀/hj
"BECAUSE GOD LIKES THE NUMBER SEVEN" i'm cackling thats so funny
These theories were my 5 stages of grief 😭
That book of life theory trying to "justify bad writing" by finding hidden meaning in everything is an insane way to cope not liking the story, do like most fans do and just make a fanfic. Clearly they have the energy and ideas for it.
omg this is amazing!! i literally made a fandom theory list on my notes app with these same theories. this is so nice to watch i feel like you are reading them off my phone lmao (you make them sound more funny and entertaining than i ever could :>)
I laughed my ass off during this video. You are really entertaining and I’m very excited to see more concerns from you!❤️
yeah exactly crowley runs; aziraphale needs help- crowley helps him the end
Not the sherlock slander 😭😭😭 (jk season 4 was embarrassingly bad)
"Benedict Cumberbatch, aka Satan"
(I know, not incorrect, not at all! The phrasing made me laugh!) 😂