As a Dane, the patriotic side of me got angered when he said "After Sweden occupied Denmark". Denmark has never been occupied by Sweden, I can tell you what really happened and why we had to give up Norway Denmark was forced to cede Norway to Sweden after the Napoleonic Wars due to the Treaty of Kiel, signed in 1814. Denmark had allied with Napoleon during the Napoleonic Wars, and after Napoleon's defeat, Denmark was on the losing side. As a consequence, Denmark had to give up Norway as part of the peace settlement. Norway was transferred to Sweden, which had sided with the victorious allies against Napoleon. This transfer of Norway to Sweden led to the formation of the United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway, which lasted until 1905 when Norway peacefully dissolved the union with Sweden. The occupation of Denmark by Sweden mentioned in this video never happened. In fact, Denmark owned the southern part of Sweden in year 1397 to 1658. Good video though, keep up the good work!👍
Dont you dare Call it southen part Of sweden as a dane you know its Skåne and it has always Well mustly been apart Of us until the swedes took it from us
I should also be noted, that the only reason Denmark Joined Napoleon, was because the british wanted the danish to hand over their navy even though the Denmark-Norway was considered neutral, but Brittien belived that the french would invade and take the danish navy. Reason being that the danish navy was considerably large and powerfull, being the strongest in the baltic.
Right, most of these videos are extremely poorly researched. Greenland and Iceland were part of the Norwegian crown, itself under Danish crown in personal union. Treaty of Kiel transferred Iceland and Greenland to the Danish crown, and put the Norwegian Crown into a personal union with the King of Sweden. The Norwegian claim to Greenland stems from it historically being part of the Norwegian crown (Even though Norway was under Denmark) , but completely ignores the Treaty or Kiel.
It's not just about the money, it's also about the logistical issues of having a population of just 57,000 people scattered across a huge land mass. You need doctors, nurses, engineers, tradespeople, police, etc., and it's already quite difficult to find qualified personnel for many of those positions, especially outside of Nuuk. Imagine having to run all the moving parts of a modern, functioning economy based on the population of 1/10th of the population of Wyoming.
Which is one reason I don't get the independence movement. Especially not when they have homerule with Denmark paying many of the bills. Greater internal freedom, equal standing with Denmark under the crown even internationally, that makes sense as a goal. As many as 17.000 greenlanders permanently live on the danish mainland, taking advantage of the opportunities they have as danish citizens. That's more than a quarter of the population living in Greenland. Then there are the young people studying in Denmark using the free school system as well as paid tuition. Standing alone also means facing Trump and the US alone as a defenceless resource rich island of strategic significance with no nearby friends. It means giving up the lifeline from Denmark in return for promises from a country that has historically had no regard for the rights of natives with wealthy land. No offense to anyone, but Trump's word isn't worth the napkin its written on.
@@dragon723. I think most people would be willing to give up some economic prospects and privileges to have full self-determination. It's natural and normal. But at the same time, a rational person will of course consider the drawbacks and responsibilites that come with it, and that is the current situation.
@@augustuswarglewinkle6328 And how long will that independence last? 57.000 Native Americans aka the population of a mid-sized town, standing alone against the US or Russia doing whatever they have to in order to get their grubby hands on an island with trillions of $ worth of mineral resources and a strategic position for the coming Arctic landgrab. Justifications will be found or manufactured.
0:37: Sweden occupied Denmark in 1814? I am Danish, and I have some interest in history, but I have never heard about this occupation. Are you sure, this is correct? Also, all the photos from Norway are really nice, but you mostly show them, when you are talking about Denmark. This could lead some viewers to the misunderstanding, that these photos were from Denmark.
Sweden did occupy Denmark at one point from what i remember. Although you shouldn’t believe in what I am saying since I got this from another video a long time ago.
What he is saying is not true it was because Napoleon lost the war. They never occupied the territory. If he does mean occupied then it will have to be after the treaty of kiel were Denmark was forced to give away Norway. Which then would mean they were occupying parts of Denmark. Denmark number 1. The swedes have never taken København. They tried and failed.
@@larsmunch4536 Treaty of Kiel (1814) transferrred Greenland and Iceland from the Norwegian crown to the Danish crown, and transferred the Norwegian crown from Denmark to Sweden. Result of Denmark siding with Napoleon.
Most Greenlanders "want independence" in the abstract, but the general political consensus is "if we do that right now we're going bankrupt", so I don't exactly think it's Denmark's fault that Greenland is still hanging around. Denmark could kick them out, but... Denmark doesn't really need to do that, and has some pretty decent reasons not to. (Denmark probably doesn't mind paying the subscription in exchange for the international influence it gets in the Arctic.)
Why would Greenlanders want independence? They don't have the resources or population to sustain themselves and would without Denmark be a easy target for Russia, the US or China who would love claim Greenland and use it for military strategic and economic purposes which I am 100% sure would not be beneficial to the people living in Greenland. I think you are right that if Greenland became independent now that they would go backrupted and would end up in the hands of Russia or the US. Wouldn't Denmark be a much better option?
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution They want independence because of the many ways Denmark violated their people and they still feel that Denmark is violating them. There is no doubt that Denmark have violated alot of women and children and those actions has resulted in the population count only being 56.000 and not 250.000 - 300.000 today. The Danish doctors sterilized many women and girls without informing them in advance or even afterward. There was also the kidnapping of many children, conducting undisclosed medical tests and research for several decades, and forcing men to clean up radioactive material without warning about the exposure. There were forced relocations of entire villages, and so on. The list goes on and on. The Danish state regarded the local people not as human beings but more like livestock. For that reason, human rights were not considered relevant by law or by opinion among Danish officials all the way up to the 1960s and 1970s. We continued sterilizing them through the 1980s, against their knowledge and consent. From that perspective, I understand why they might not have positive feelings toward the Danish state. However, from a realistic point of view, and based on the current administrative conditions, it does not make any sense for them to seek independence from Denmark. This is because, with respect to corruption, they do not trust their own lawmakers, but they do trust the courts, the police, and businesses. The difference being that the lawmakers are native Greenlanders, while the courts, police, and businesses are Danish. In other words, they may dream of independence, but in reality, they know they must be administered by the Danish government to prevent internal corruption.
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution Denmark also doesn't exploit the island in search of more natural ressources, Greenland recently made a law that prohibits mining uranium because of danger to the environment. We can all agree that having a safe environment on freaking Greenland would be pretty important for the planet, right? Anyone here think the US or worse, Russia, would respect that law? The safest pair of hands is letting Greenland remain under the protection of Denmark, and by extension NATO.
@@suneenough Denmark cannot unilaterally kick them out. Denmark 🇩🇰 doesn’t own Greenland 🇬🇱-Greenland is a constituent country within the Kingdom of Denmark, along with the Faroe Islands 🇫🇴.
Being Faroese I can tell you a big part of it is pride. Denmark was offered several times enormous sums from the USA, at times Denmark really needed the boost. They didnt take it, at a time the economic potential of Greenland was not a guarantee before the melting ice, because it would be an admittance of a decline, and would hurt national pride. Denmark is small and while it lost iceland it kepts its claws tight on the Faroes and Greenland, though this has been loosening over the years. As is I see no reason to let our own pride get in the way of some free money and stellar relations with Denmark.
How does Denmark keep it's claw tight? Denmark can not bind any of the two closer. Nor can Denmark kick them out. Both decide their own fate. Both decide to leach of the Danish cuffers while crying like they were african slaves in the early 1800's. A pathetic bunch.
There's never been any real offers to buy the Faroes, which themselves achieved self governance far earlier than Greenland, which I am aware of. The only real attempt of changing sovereignty was the Faroese declaration of independence that was rejected after WWII.
It cant. It has been researced, the areas with the resources are to far away from population centers, which is even worse with the low population. Not only that it would destroy the environment of Greenland. One of the areas with alot of resources is also the only place were you can have farm animales. Another thing is that most greenlanders dont want to mine after the resources because of the things i stated ealier. Lastly 80% of Greenlands budget is paid by the danish goverment, average spending per capita in Greenland is up to 5 times higher then that in Denmark. Sorry for the long comment, just wanted show people why they arent going for independence yet.
@@Nukannguaq. Absolutely only 1 reason greenland wanna go solo, natural resources.. but greenland basically owe it all to Denmark for feeding them money for years on end. i never wish for greenland to ever go solo. Denmark should have 80% of all the natural resources then, as payment.
They have lived there for +1000 years so I’m sure they can. USA have had a big military base since the 1950s big radars to spot incoming missiles from USSR/Russia
Leaving does indeed the end of subsidies. What isn't visible is the invisible subsidies, Greenland and the citizens can avail themselves freely of all of Denmarks diplomatic efforts and representations. You are correct in the mutual benefit in world politics, but Greenlanders also know that they on their own has no political power and would have to bow to whatever the US demands of them, because the alternative is to give China whatever they demand. Being part of the danish realm isn't just financial security, it's also political and military security. Denmark is big enough it can wield some power, but not so big it will just ignore Greenlands wishes.
It´s more of a love-hate relationship, from the Greenlanders´ side. Danes are more positive towards Greenlanders, I believe. But there is racism both ways, no doubt about it, and painful history. The Greenlanders have been hurt in many ways by the Danes. But then, also helped. It is very complicated. Anyway, the "relationship" goes back 600 years, so it is somewhat deeply rooted.
@@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 Nope norse settlers came first, and the thule people arrived between then and when the christian missionairies arrived.
@@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 the Thule people came around 1300s 1400s while the Norse came to Greenland around 900-1000AD. i always find it fascinating that people say 'it belong to the Greenlandic people' while the Viking literally were there first the Thule people came from Canada so in fact the Greenlandic people stole/colonized another country (at that time it was Norwegian people that lived in Greenland and was not part of Denmark)
This video is an expression of an American imperialist mindset. It is the Americans who are concerned with the economic opportunities in Greenland and therefore they want to take over Greenland. Most recently, Trump has offered to buy Greenland from Denmark, which of course Denmark has rejected as pure madness. In a civilized world, you cannot buy a country and its people.
It’s not like they are conducting a military invasion of Greenland. They are asking a well trusted ally which is in NATO, weather or not they could have Green, the Americans even offered to pay. When Denmark refused on the offer, everything went to normal. However based on the situation in Ukraine, I don’t think Russia would leave Denmark alone if this were to happen to them…
The vikings where first in Greenland Denmark has every right to it as a part of it's kingdom and they help the local population in many ways and are nice to them don't empose anything on them they should be glad nothing is stolen here be happy or become one big US millitery base the locals will be a minority over night.
I'm not sure Norway would really want that , Greenland have many social issues, issues that has nothing to do with Denmark ,so it's not that easy , also if Greenland was part of Norway it would be Norway they wanted independence from anyway , and realty is, sometimes they want sometimes they don't it depends on the question
@@veronicajensen7690 U miss the point. He rather want Greenland to be a part of Denmark, than the US. (Even tho Norway "owned" it before Denmark did...) Rather Denmark, than the US, if anything...
Thinking about this Denmark has owned half of Hamburg and north Germany And Norway and a part of Sweden And Iceland and some exotic islands Now we still have Greenland and 🇫🇴
It would seem to me that Greenland has benefited from being part of Denmark whether a colony, territory or county. Denmark has always afforded the inhabitants of the island be they of indigenous, Viking or mixed descent a healthy amount of autonomy & representation in the government of Denmark. In fact the 56k Greenlanders are better represented than the 700k who live in Washington DC. Also we’re not talking about a mere century of colonial exploitation, we’re talking about a 1000 year shared history that becomes more a conversation of co-evolution & blood relation at this point. There is even a debate whether the Vikings or indigenous peoples settled there first. It would be an ungrateful gesture if not an actual betrayal of family for Greenland to benefit from their inclusion in the Scandinavian family for so long only to take the money & run once the place thaws out & becomes a treasure chest.
Denmark has never been occupied by Sweden, so why say that? Sweden and Norway has OF COURE been a part of the Danish realm, but never the other way around.
And the southern part of sweden was danish way earlier than 1397 and Denmark will not get rich of Greenland resources as they belong to Greenland alone
I would think that for Greenland, becoming part of the much larger U.S; economy it would want a closer association with or to be part of the U.S. A sale of Greenland to the U.S. would no doubt both relieve Denmark of a burden and stoke its immediate economy, for the U.S. it would ensure security to the north preventing a less friendly nation from possibly taking it from Denmark in the future. As Greenland's ice melts, it'll mean they will need more capital to develop new lands previously unusable. However due to its far northern location, I really don't see Americans flocking there to settle. For the most part, most Americans prefer temperate climate. Not much would change for Greenland citizens for many years, if ever, and the vast majority of the land would gain further U.S. protection as a vast wide open natural area much like Alaska has been protected.
No hostile nation can "take" Greenland, it is under the protection of Denmark and by extension NATO. It has no need to be under the US for security, on the contrary I would dread what the insane Trump circus would do to exploit the natural ressources of Greenland, and the effects it would have on the environment which is something the Greenlandic people care a lot about, and so should you.
Why is greenland still part of denmark? Because they can't support themselves. people there are basically all in goverment support, not just in infrastructurer, but in the jobs greenlanders work.
What nonsense people can say. The Danes will not leave Greenland with their racist and Nazi behavior. The Danes and Denmark are nothing without Greenland.
I mean.. Atleast their people still exist and have thee right to govern their own land. Go ask Canada and America and Spain what they did with their natives :/
i think i heard about 15.000 thousand greenlanders are danish or mixed. In Denmark around 10.000-15.000 greenlanders live. Its like 20% of their population. Seperating our 2 countries sounds like a very difficult task.
Exceptionally good job, talking about the full picture too, if not all the speculations and their grounding. My only criticism would be that Greenland has never been independent. Nominally perhaps, but during ww2 it was immediately occupied by American forces days after Denmark surrendered. They didn't get to live independently, but for a time they felt how nit being a colony feels like.
I don't think Denmark's desire to keep Greenland is about natural resources, as those natural resources could just as well be used by Greenland to finance it's independence. We, Denmark, gain strategic influence by controlling the foreign policy of Greenland (e.g. though the Thule air base), and Greenland gets money and services that a population of 57,000 cannot provide such as universities, courts, and so on. Also, giving up Greenland feels like giving up part of our history. The emotional attachment to Greenland is strong. There is also pride involved. Denmark just feels much bigger and more important with Greenland. Properly not the best reason, but true nonetheless. Finally, a lot of people of Danish descent do live in Greenland, which is a reason to keep the union together. However, in the end of day, if Greenland wants independence, then obviously they should have it. People should get to rule themselves, as they see fit.
Inuit be like: -Have defacto independence(can rule things) -Receive money to the budget from another pocket -Have their life going normal as they want They have to still be technically loyal. I don't see the problem here.
-Some massive inaccuracies. Greenland does not have a lot of major industries because. It has less than 50.000 citizens spread out across a very, very long coastline. Which means it lacks population density. It does have some natural minerals, but its comparatively expensive to extract them in the arctic. The US is interested because A) Its strategi B) Trump was told there were trillions in minerals and never realized it would cost far, far more to extract them.
Standards on Greenland are too high, the Danish government funds it's wealthfare. People have tried to come up with plans that could help paying for everything, however it's almost always based solely on tourism and makes parallels with Iceland. The tourism interest however isn't booming and Greenland has very few options for airports and harbours. It's not tourist friendly. Natural resources has always been too expensive to even make use of. The initial investment to actually start any natural resource refinement is more than Greenlands GDP. I'm a Dane snd I don't really care as much what the Greenlanders choose to do, but I think it's economical suicidal to leave the Danish realm.
Why do you show so many pictures of norwegian fjords when mentioning greenland and Denmark’s relationship i feel colonized and enslaved by the danes (again 😢)
they always show Norway when talking abut any Scandinavian country, people must get so confused when they visit flat Denmark , if they don't show Norway they show Faroe islands
u forget the strategic part in your analyzes, Greenland is of vital importance strategically. And as u mentioned, part of the Danish family in a cultural way - just like the big brother US, who has np with Greenland being a part of a founding NATO country, that ofc provides bases and as much logistical support as possible, in an increasingly cold-war like environment.
Everything you say should be taken with a Ton of salt!!! Just to get things right: Sweden DID NOT occupy Denmark in 1814! Where does that come from???? And then the gap from 1940 to 2009. No Greenland was not Independent, it was part of Rigsfællesskabet (Commonwealth between Denmark, Greenland and the faroe Islands) and Greenland has two seats in Folketinget (the danish Parliament) Why Denmark still “Owns” Greenland has a lot more to do with history then economics, but as an American only being able to focus on money I get that you dont understand why we havent “sold” it! Greenland is not ours to sell, Greenland belongs to Greenland.
I grew up learning from my danish friends that Greenland was always viewed as an investment for the future due to its resources that were under the ice. Danes know Greenland will be beneficial one day, just not yet.
here is the thing when you ask them, they say that they want it when they no longer need goverment subsidise, from Denmark. But considering that danish subsidies are 20% of GDP, probably gonna take a long time.
@@Īvï-â-ṣ̌ not quite sure What you mean with the whole eastern Greenland thing Unless you mean norways attempt to get some of Greenland at some point. But among other things we took the children of the people in Greenland to “make them proper danish people” in the fifties and nowadays a Greenlands population is among the highest rate of suicide
@spiceboy9691 Sorry for the terrible question 😅 and thank you for the answer. It was of help, but I'm interested, as a Danish person who do think should "have" Greenland (Denmark or Norway) and why (sorry for all the questions, and sorry if the don't make a lot of sense)
@@dragon723. It would be as stupid for either the US or Russia to do this as it would be for them to shoot a nuke at each other. Sure I agree they are stupid....but THAT stupid...seriously? That's a bold prediction. I think you are wrong.
@@dragon723. If the US was stupid enough to attack Greenland or force it out of Denmark, it would be the end of NATO and then the US would shoot themselves in the foot, and it would be the end of the US too. If Russia was stupid enough to attack Greenland, it would be an attack on NATO and that would end in Russia totally collapsing and possibly being destroyed. You would have more likelihood trying to predict the end of the world...but to end the world over Greenland? I don't see it happening. Greenland would be valuable when the ice melt if we survive that long yes...but that would be FAR into the future and at the rate we are going with wars, the global warming is far more likely to finish us off long before either the US or Russia would do something this desperate. It honestly would be a extremely stupid move by either of them. I don't think they are that stupid, even if they are both led by very stupid men.
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution Try telling that to Trump or his successors once Greenland stands on its own, a mid sized towns worth of native Americans standing between global superpowers + megacorporations and trillions of $ worth of minerals - assuming global warming continues - and a key strategic position for the Arctic landgrab. We've heard such stories many, many times before. Promises will be made of prosperity for both sides, but in the end native Greenlanders will have a handful of glass beads and a tiny reservation somewhere out of the way.
they still do , and it's not Denmark who doesn't want foreign investors , it's the US pressuring Denmark to keep Chinese investors out!!, there are actually a few foreign investors , but anytime China wants to make a deal with China, Denmark gets a call from the US
Why would greenlanders want independence? is the same question i'm asking myself then why not Hawai, Alaska, The islands in the pacific ocean do not say the same to the US? because it is too far? Why the east of Russia bordering with North Corea and Mongolia do not want to separate from Moscow? just asking or it is because there are not danes living in Greenland practically?
My question for Greenland is why not join Canada? Look at a globe and you will see how much sense that would make. Greenland would flourish as part of Canada!!! Independence for Greenland just plain isn't going to happen because it would be woefully impractical. But going with Canada as part of a negotiated arrangement between Ottawa and Copenhagen makes ample sense.
The suggestion of Greenland flourishing as part of Canada is indeed perplexing. It's unclear what advantages Canada could offer that Denmark doesn't already provide. Greenlanders largely aspire to full independence, recognizing its current economic impracticality. As a Dane, I fully support Greenland's pursuit of independence. Should they choose independence via referendum, I would respect their decision, as any supporter of democracy would. Therefore, the idea of the US attempting to purchase Greenland is absurd. It treats Greenland as a mere commodity, disregarding the will of its people. Denmark cannot simply sell Greenland; it's not a possession to be traded. Greenland is an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark, and its future should be determined by its own inhabitants.
4:20 At that time Greenland will seek independence from Denmark and try to keep all their wealth to themselves. A little payback would be nice 👌 thanks 🇩🇰
Why should Greenland leave Denmark for any reason? How is that a benefit to either Greenlanders or Danes? It is foreign interest who has this as a wishful thinking, especially now because of global warming and the threat of WW3. But regardless of if you look at the argument for climate or wars, it would be far better for both Greenland, Denmark and the world in general if Greenland remains with Denmark and is not put in the hands of Russia, the US, China or any other super-power.
The idea of the US attempting to purchase Greenland is "Absurd". It treats Greenland as a mere commodity, disregarding the will of its people. Denmark cannot simply sell Greenland; it's not a possession to be traded. Greenland is an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark, and its future should be determined by its own inhabitants. This isn't 1917. We're discussing democratic nations and autonomous regions. Greenland is no longer a Danish colony. Denmark cannot sell Greenland, just as the UK cannot sell Scotland or Wales, nor can the US sell Alaska. The situations are comparable. Greenland, Scotland, and Wales all have the right to pursue independence. If they choose to leave their respective kingdoms through a referendum, and are permitted to do so legally, they could theoretically also choose to join another country via a similar process. The notion of simply buying Greenland from Denmark is absurd and reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of democratic principles. Greenlanders largely aspire to full independence, recognizing its current economic impracticality. As a Dane, I fully support Greenland's pursuit of self-determination. Should they choose independence via referendum, I would respect their decision, as any supporter of democracy would.
Some countries should, objectively not be independent, as you’ve said yourself. The will of the people is only 50% of the equation, the other 50% is the actual logistics of statehood, of which Greenland does not meet the succeed as a country, the human conditions in Greenland would plummet if Denmark left, the current situation is extremely mutually beneficial, Denmark gets access to the large reserves of natural resources found in Greenland, and Greenland benefits from the infrastructure, subsidies, cheaper imports, and jobs created by the mining.
@@King_Zog_I While leaving the Kingdom of Denmark in the current circumstances would be a foolish, I would still support such a decision if it were the outcome of a legitimate referendum. I believe any true democrat would uphold the right of self-determination. Ultimately, the decision regarding Greenland's independence rests solely with the people of Greenland.
@ self determination at the cost of human life and suffering. people can be led astray and lied to and not understand the true ramifications of their vote. No democratic country allows its people to vote to abolish the government nor make murder legal.
Denmark are still a colonist. Terrible that danes don't let Greenlands indigous people be independent. I saw a YT video where people fra Faroe Islands wants to be independent, men Denmark don't let them go.
Speaking as a Dane, Greenland is free to leave our kingdom, but they cannot financially uphold their nation, we pay for their way of life. We are not colonists we are in a kingdom together and no one is forcing them to stay. in fact they are costing us a ton of money. You seem very ignorant, you should do more research before you insult an entire country and its people.
Greenland can play both sides of the Atlantic now - Denmark and the US. They need to get the best deal possible from Trump and Denmark at the same time.
why would they want to belong to that shithole? with Denmark they get free healthcsre, free education, a years parental leave etc.........do they get that with the shithole....no.
Greenland AND the Faroe Islands, Iceland, the Orkney Islands + Svalbard are all (back in day) Norwegian. But! No matter what, when Trump finds out, how much each Greenlander receives in free benefits, he will run for the hills 😅 Another fun fact: The gun laws in Green- land are MUCH LESS restrictive than in the US. 🇩🇰 ☃️ 🇬🇱
You really have to be on point, making a video about political "issues" and be sure that your facts are right. You know that people with more knowledge is going to comment and "debunk" your video in the comment, making you seem like a untrustworthy narrator. This can bleed into your other videos too, and you will lose credibility. To make it short for you to understand, the population of Greenland, would not be able to sustain education of nurses, doctors, carpenters, politicians, teachers, electricians, mechanics, garbage collectors, dock workers, sailors, fishermen, store clerks, and the hundreds of other jobtitles that is relevant to run a society. I'm a Dane, and im 100% supporting the people of greenland, if they want to cut all ties from Denmark. If it meant more money to people living in mainland Denmark, And a better feeling for the greenlandic people, then im all for it. Sadly, the people living there, would have some issues with their economy and geography. There is not much they can export, and everything has to be importet there. Who would pay for that? A big part of the workforce in greenland is ethnic danes working there, everything from school teachers, police etc etc. Denmark is a hub for people from greenland to get education (that might not be available on greenland). Maybe it is not about "Pride" from danish side that keeps greenland around, because Everyone i know, don't care. Greenland doesn't offer the regular dane anything and No one goes around with the prospect, that in 200 years, maybe we''ll be able to go there, and search for oil. I'm all fine with greenland having ties with Denmark, and us having to support financially, and with education and import/export to their land, but if they don't want to be within the union, then they are free to leave. I love greenland and i have a friend who's from Nuuk and he doesn't care either. He has no "pride" that he wants to uphold, and doesn't support the idea, that Greenland could be selfsufficient the way it is now.
So because 50k People living in a giant land mass and lived there as nomadic people before. Does it mean they should own the whole country? They first entered Greenland from America in Middle Ages. That was after Vikings settled Greenland. But Vikings left it again.
Norway and later Denmark owned the land. Greenlanders are now 25% European (DNA) and will still rely on external help going forward. Countries like the US can invest/trade with the country, like the rest of the world (this includes Denmark), if they want their share.
It like a stated of the USA wanting independence they can’t it how the world works plus the USA only got it to help the war effort so after it had to give it back or it would be invaded by the soviet union British empire all the other allies
??? it was never in the hands of the u.s. The U.S was allowed to build the Thule base on Greenland, but thats it. The arrogance of americans is astounding.
@@bakedpotato9979 as a Kalaalleq (Greenlander), that's a pretty debatable claim, and even if it wouldn't currently survive at the moment, it definitely would later on as the resources begin to get uncovered by the ice
@@peterpeterpeterpeterpeterpete your resources in question are in the habital land where cattle is and denmark pays you 80% or smth so greenland surviving without denmark is debatble since nations like drc and many african countries have resources yet havent survived so saying you have resources isnt even a reliable reason why greenland would survive on its own in my opinion you should slowly get less and less funds from denmark and slowly get more autonomy untill it seems greenland can survive without danish funds
@@bakedpotato9979 yeah fair point. that's pretty much the exact reason why Greenland still isn't independent yet even though they are fully able to do so. We would rather progressively work towards it instead of getting it right now
@@mammasut8280 I'm not actually! This video is! I was pointing out the hypocrisy, of the video author complaining about land theft, that happened over 200 years ago, when he himself is living on land that was also stolen.
I still find joy in the fact, that the Danish prime minister humiliated Donald Trump in public and triggered him into losing what little composure he had.
sorry to steal your joy , as a Dane I have seen many American post about the Danish PM saying about the suggestion to buy Greenland "it's absurd" she wasn't actually talking about Trump , the last time her political party was in charge in Denmark they sold our state owned energy company to Goldman Sachs or 49% of it , the journalist said if we could trust her not to sell Greenland to the USA as they had sold the energy company, and it was this question she said was absurd , however it spread all over the world that she was speaking of Trump , that said it's not possible to sell a country today without the population in the country accepting it, so Denmark can't sell Greenland even if we wanted to it's against UN solution, and also against the agreement between Denmark and Greenland , the US have put a lot of pressure on Denmark regarding Greenland for decades, it's actually not Denmark that don't want foreign investors, it's the US!!!!! they don't want China to invest in Greenland , Greenland had made an agreement with China about an airport , Denmark had no issues with it, the Obama called and the deal with China was broken and Denmark invested in the airport instead , the whole "Trump buying Greenland" was about the US wanting Denmark to tke more control about what happens in Greenland and make sure to keep China out
Greenland can become independent the moment they decide it by a referendum. They should stop crying, and start acting. It's pathetic to watch adults act like victims when they have free will, just like the rest of us.
@@paintingdreams290 Yeah the thing with the constitution is that it has taken more then 20 years to figure that one out, and 20% of Greenlands GDP is just from danish subsidies. Lastly the largest imployer in Greenland is the public.
The first encounters between inhabitants of greenland and the norse were with the dorset, not the inuit. by the time the inuit had come, there were already norse knowledge of greenland and settlements
@@kirliaiscool Yeah thats the thing theInuit killed the dorset and took there land. Its funny but norsemen have more of a right to the land then the Inuit if you think about it. But thats only if you wanna use the same argument that the tribes in the US uses with the whole their lands were stolen we need reperations. Though this is not because i think Inuit dont have any right to Greenland.
As a Dane, the patriotic side of me got angered when he said "After Sweden occupied Denmark".
Denmark has never been occupied by Sweden, I can tell you what really happened and why we had to give up Norway
Denmark was forced to cede Norway to Sweden after the Napoleonic Wars due to the Treaty of Kiel, signed in 1814. Denmark had allied with Napoleon during the Napoleonic Wars, and after Napoleon's defeat, Denmark was on the losing side. As a consequence, Denmark had to give up Norway as part of the peace settlement. Norway was transferred to Sweden, which had sided with the victorious allies against Napoleon. This transfer of Norway to Sweden led to the formation of the United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway, which lasted until 1905 when Norway peacefully dissolved the union with Sweden.
The occupation of Denmark by Sweden mentioned in this video never happened. In fact, Denmark owned the southern part of Sweden in year 1397 to 1658.
Good video though, keep up the good work!👍
Dont you dare Call it southen part Of sweden as a dane you know its Skåne and it has always Well mustly been apart Of us until the swedes took it from us
I should also be noted, that the only reason Denmark Joined Napoleon, was because the british wanted the danish to hand over their navy even though the Denmark-Norway was considered neutral, but Brittien belived that the french would invade and take the danish navy. Reason being that the danish navy was considerably large and powerfull, being the strongest in the baltic.
@@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 Nuh uh
Right, most of these videos are extremely poorly researched. Greenland and Iceland were part of the Norwegian crown, itself under Danish crown in personal union. Treaty of Kiel transferred Iceland and Greenland to the Danish crown, and put the Norwegian Crown into a personal union with the King of Sweden. The Norwegian claim to Greenland stems from it historically being part of the Norwegian crown (Even though Norway was under Denmark) , but completely ignores the Treaty or Kiel.
@@MrSaemisch yes and the video also don't mention Greenland said yest to rejoin Denmark in 1952-1953
Really well made video! hello from Greenland 🇬🇱 :D
Wait are you actually from Greenland? Woah that's so cool
I've never seen someone commented from Greenland!
GREEEEEEENENENENNENENENENEN3NENLANDD
I have never seen a RUclipsr user from Greenland, so bizzare
yooooo fellow greenlander!! aamma kalaaliuvunga (ilulissanit kisianni maanna nuummi najugaqarpunga)
It's not just about the money, it's also about the logistical issues of having a population of just 57,000 people scattered across a huge land mass. You need doctors, nurses, engineers, tradespeople, police, etc., and it's already quite difficult to find qualified personnel for many of those positions, especially outside of Nuuk. Imagine having to run all the moving parts of a modern, functioning economy based on the population of 1/10th of the population of Wyoming.
1/10th the population spread out over 10x the territory. Would be difficult indeed.
And they need to establish their own hospitals, schools for higher learning and military for defense
Which is one reason I don't get the independence movement. Especially not when they have homerule with Denmark paying many of the bills. Greater internal freedom, equal standing with Denmark under the crown even internationally, that makes sense as a goal.
As many as 17.000 greenlanders permanently live on the danish mainland, taking advantage of the opportunities they have as danish citizens. That's more than a quarter of the population living in Greenland.
Then there are the young people studying in Denmark using the free school system as well as paid tuition.
Standing alone also means facing Trump and the US alone as a defenceless resource rich island of strategic significance with no nearby friends. It means giving up the lifeline from Denmark in return for promises from a country that has historically had no regard for the rights of natives with wealthy land.
No offense to anyone, but Trump's word isn't worth the napkin its written on.
@@dragon723. I think most people would be willing to give up some economic prospects and privileges to have full self-determination. It's natural and normal. But at the same time, a rational person will of course consider the drawbacks and responsibilites that come with it, and that is the current situation.
@@augustuswarglewinkle6328 And how long will that independence last? 57.000 Native Americans aka the population of a mid-sized town, standing alone against the US or Russia doing whatever they have to in order to get their grubby hands on an island with trillions of $ worth of mineral resources and a strategic position for the coming Arctic landgrab.
Justifications will be found or manufactured.
0:37: Sweden occupied Denmark in 1814? I am Danish, and I have some interest in history, but I have never heard about this occupation. Are you sure, this is correct? Also, all the photos from Norway are really nice, but you mostly show them, when you are talking about Denmark. This could lead some viewers to the misunderstanding, that these photos were from Denmark.
Sweden did occupy Denmark at one point from what i remember. Although you shouldn’t believe in what I am saying since I got this from another video a long time ago.
Sweden occupied a big part of Denmark in 1658.
What he is saying is not true it was because Napoleon lost the war. They never occupied the territory. If he does mean occupied then it will have to be after the treaty of kiel were Denmark was forced to give away Norway. Which then would mean they were occupying parts of Denmark. Denmark number 1. The swedes have never taken København. They tried and failed.
@@larsmunch4536 Treaty of Kiel (1814) transferrred Greenland and Iceland from the Norwegian crown to the Danish crown, and transferred the Norwegian crown from Denmark to Sweden. Result of Denmark siding with Napoleon.
Most Greenlanders "want independence" in the abstract, but the general political consensus is "if we do that right now we're going bankrupt", so I don't exactly think it's Denmark's fault that Greenland is still hanging around.
Denmark could kick them out, but... Denmark doesn't really need to do that, and has some pretty decent reasons not to. (Denmark probably doesn't mind paying the subscription in exchange for the international influence it gets in the Arctic.)
Why would Greenlanders want independence? They don't have the resources or population to sustain themselves and would without Denmark be a easy target for Russia, the US or China who would love claim Greenland and use it for military strategic and economic purposes which I am 100% sure would not be beneficial to the people living in Greenland.
I think you are right that if Greenland became independent now that they would go backrupted and would end up in the hands of Russia or the US. Wouldn't Denmark be a much better option?
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution They want independence because of the many ways Denmark violated their people and they still feel that Denmark is violating them. There is no doubt that Denmark have violated alot of women and children and those actions has resulted in the population count only being 56.000 and not 250.000 - 300.000 today. The Danish doctors sterilized many women and girls without informing them in advance or even afterward. There was also the kidnapping of many children, conducting undisclosed medical tests and research for several decades, and forcing men to clean up radioactive material without warning about the exposure. There were forced relocations of entire villages, and so on. The list goes on and on. The Danish state regarded the local people not as human beings but more like livestock. For that reason, human rights were not considered relevant by law or by opinion among Danish officials all the way up to the 1960s and 1970s. We continued sterilizing them through the 1980s, against their knowledge and consent. From that perspective, I understand why they might not have positive feelings toward the Danish state.
However, from a realistic point of view, and based on the current administrative conditions, it does not make any sense for them to seek independence from Denmark. This is because, with respect to corruption, they do not trust their own lawmakers, but they do trust the courts, the police, and businesses. The difference being that the lawmakers are native Greenlanders, while the courts, police, and businesses are Danish.
In other words, they may dream of independence, but in reality, they know they must be administered by the Danish government to prevent internal corruption.
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution Denmark also doesn't exploit the island in search of more natural ressources, Greenland recently made a law that prohibits mining uranium because of danger to the environment. We can all agree that having a safe environment on freaking Greenland would be pretty important for the planet, right? Anyone here think the US or worse, Russia, would respect that law?
The safest pair of hands is letting Greenland remain under the protection of Denmark, and by extension NATO.
@@michaelhansen2309 Yeah that is a good point. Would much rather Denmark have Greenland than the US or Russia.
@@suneenough Denmark cannot unilaterally kick them out. Denmark 🇩🇰 doesn’t own Greenland 🇬🇱-Greenland is a constituent country within the Kingdom of Denmark, along with the Faroe Islands 🇫🇴.
Honestly, Denmark still owning the island isn’t that bad of an idea, it would mean it wouldn’t be in the hands of Russia or USA
Unless the USA invades and conquers it. It wouldn’t be the first time we took an island by force.
Greenland should be independent,due to its unique people ( Inuit) .They have nothing to do with Denmark,neither Russia or the US
Why are my comments getting deleted?
Denmark doesn’t own it, Greenlanders are Danish citizens.
@@CuriousHacker404-The second Greenland leaves Denmark, China, Russia, or America will swoop in, like vultures over a newly dead corpse.
Being Faroese I can tell you a big part of it is pride. Denmark was offered several times enormous sums from the USA, at times Denmark really needed the boost. They didnt take it, at a time the economic potential of Greenland was not a guarantee before the melting ice, because it would be an admittance of a decline, and would hurt national pride. Denmark is small and while it lost iceland it kepts its claws tight on the Faroes and Greenland, though this has been loosening over the years. As is I see no reason to let our own pride get in the way of some free money and stellar relations with Denmark.
What's life like over there?
How does Denmark keep it's claw tight? Denmark can not bind any of the two closer. Nor can Denmark kick them out. Both decide their own fate. Both decide to leach of the Danish cuffers while crying like they were african slaves in the early 1800's. A pathetic bunch.
@@Evan-hockputer Oh I moved to rural Norway years ago.
England also weren't keen on the US owning Greenland (or Faroe Islands).
There's never been any real offers to buy the Faroes, which themselves achieved self governance far earlier than Greenland, which I am aware of. The only real attempt of changing sovereignty was the Faroese declaration of independence that was rejected after WWII.
For those find this story confusing, Simply Denmark is the sugar daddy of Greenland.
I hope one day usa doesn’t blow up his own ship to stole it from Denmark like they did with Cuba in 1898
@@josem588 Greenland is the Danish northern Canada.
@@donaldclifford5763 but let’s hope usa doesn’t do what It did in 1898 to stole Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines.
0:37 Sweden never occupied Denmark.
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@@nerdsunited345 Aldrig
0:42 Sweden never occupied Denmark
Dano-Swedish war
@@Albrik_IT Denmark was not occupied during any war with Sweden
@@Albrik_IT There was no Dano-Swedish war in 1814.
I don’t know if Greenland could even survive as an independent country, most of it is just snow and ice
There are quite a lot of natural resources
^ especially now that the ice is melting
It cant. It has been researced, the areas with the resources are to far away from population centers, which is even worse with the low population. Not only that it would destroy the environment of Greenland. One of the areas with alot of resources is also the only place were you can have farm animales. Another thing is that most greenlanders dont want to mine after the resources because of the things i stated ealier. Lastly 80% of Greenlands budget is paid by the danish goverment, average spending per capita in Greenland is up to 5 times higher then that in Denmark. Sorry for the long comment, just wanted show people why they arent going for independence yet.
@@Nukannguaq. Absolutely only 1 reason greenland wanna go solo, natural resources.. but greenland basically owe it all to Denmark for feeding them money for years on end. i never wish for greenland to ever go solo. Denmark should have 80% of all the natural resources then, as payment.
They have lived there for +1000 years so I’m sure they can.
USA have had a big military base since the 1950s big radars to spot incoming missiles from USSR/Russia
*Let's take a moment to acknowledge the impeccable editing in the video.*
I love the graphics and visuals in this!!
Leaving does indeed the end of subsidies. What isn't visible is the invisible subsidies, Greenland and the citizens can avail themselves freely of all of Denmarks diplomatic efforts and representations. You are correct in the mutual benefit in world politics, but Greenlanders also know that they on their own has no political power and would have to bow to whatever the US demands of them, because the alternative is to give China whatever they demand. Being part of the danish realm isn't just financial security, it's also political and military security. Denmark is big enough it can wield some power, but not so big it will just ignore Greenlands wishes.
Greenland will never leave because it loves Denmark so much!!!
It´s more of a love-hate relationship, from the Greenlanders´ side. Danes are more positive towards Greenlanders, I believe. But there is racism both ways, no doubt about it, and painful history. The Greenlanders have been hurt in many ways by the Danes. But then, also helped. It is very complicated.
Anyway, the "relationship" goes back 600 years, so it is somewhat deeply rooted.
Should be given back to Norway
Weren’t the first Norse settlers in Greenland before the Thule people?
I Think both came to the land at the same time just in oppisit diractions
@@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 Nope norse settlers came first, and the thule people arrived between then and when the christian missionairies arrived.
@@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 the Thule people came around 1300s 1400s while the Norse came to Greenland around 900-1000AD. i always find it fascinating that people say 'it belong to the Greenlandic people' while the Viking literally were there first the Thule people came from Canada so in fact the Greenlandic people stole/colonized another country (at that time it was Norwegian people that lived in Greenland and was not part of Denmark)
@michael-gb3rn no, the first people to come to greenland were paleo-nuit.
@@raflykato1789 the entire thing was explained in my comment. those you describe are not Thule people AKA greenlander.
This video is an expression of an American imperialist mindset. It is the Americans who are concerned with the economic opportunities in Greenland and therefore they want to take over Greenland. Most recently, Trump has offered to buy Greenland from Denmark, which of course Denmark has rejected as pure madness. In a civilized world, you cannot buy a country and its people.
You could do this easily in colonial era.
It’s not like they are conducting a military invasion of Greenland. They are asking a well trusted ally which is in NATO, weather or not they could have Green, the Americans even offered to pay. When Denmark refused on the offer, everything went to normal. However based on the situation in Ukraine, I don’t think Russia would leave Denmark alone if this were to happen to them…
How much oil is there really under the ice?
The vikings where first in Greenland Denmark has every right to it as a part of it's kingdom and they help the local population in many ways and are nice to them don't empose anything on them they should be glad nothing is stolen here be happy or become one big US millitery base the locals will be a minority over night.
Should be given back to Norway
As a Norwegian i wish it was a part of Norway, but rather Denmark than the US
Norway is in Nato...
@@CarPitStop for now
I'm not sure Norway would really want that , Greenland have many social issues, issues that has nothing to do with Denmark ,so it's not that easy , also if Greenland was part of Norway it would be Norway they wanted independence from anyway , and realty is, sometimes they want sometimes they don't it depends on the question
@@veronicajensen7690 U miss the point. He rather want Greenland to be a part of Denmark, than the US. (Even tho Norway "owned" it before Denmark did...) Rather Denmark, than the US, if anything...
@@TheAlkochefyeah, when Denmark and Norway was one country..
So, Norway didn't own Greenland.
I have seen a few videos of Greenlanders saying they want independence, but with a less than excited tone of voice.
*Good video, Trebbie!*
MY REQUEST: Why does Maryland have a narrow neck?
1:46 64% in favor of independence.
2:16 78% oppose independence.
What the hell?!
Great video! That's a lot of effort put into it.
Thinking about this
Denmark has owned half of Hamburg and north Germany
And Norway and a part of Sweden
And Iceland and some exotic islands
Now we still have Greenland and 🇫🇴
It would seem to me that Greenland has benefited from being part of Denmark whether a colony, territory or county. Denmark has always afforded the inhabitants of the island be they of indigenous, Viking or mixed descent a healthy amount of autonomy & representation in the government of Denmark. In fact the 56k Greenlanders are better represented than the 700k who live in Washington DC. Also we’re not talking about a mere century of colonial exploitation, we’re talking about a 1000 year shared history that becomes more a conversation of co-evolution & blood relation at this point. There is even a debate whether the Vikings or indigenous peoples settled there first. It would be an ungrateful gesture if not an actual betrayal of family for Greenland to benefit from their inclusion in the Scandinavian family for so long only to take the money & run once the place thaws out & becomes a treasure chest.
I’d go Berserk if I was forced to join Trumpistan dictatorship.
Denmark has never been occupied by Sweden, so why say that? Sweden and Norway has OF COURE been a part of the Danish realm, but never the other way around.
Sweden has never "been part of the Danish realm". We entered the Kalmar Union willingly, then got sick of it and destroyed it.
@billywiththebulgingbaloonb5105 oh yes it has, booiii
@@timjohnson933 When? In your wet dreams when you were 12?
And the southern part of sweden was danish way earlier than 1397 and Denmark will not get rich of Greenland resources as they belong to Greenland alone
Greenland will not be indipendant until they adopt the cross design to their flag
Wtf ! 😮
and maybe greenland will be the new shiping hub or it will containe about 10% of trade
You were supposed to talk about how greenland was fake 😩
oops 😅👉👈
forgor it was fake 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@trebbiegeolol
GREENLAND ISNT REAL
Maybe you confused Greenland with Australia
wait.... sweden never occupyed denmarl
Not in 1814, at least. Sweden occupied parts of Denmark in 1658.
Greenland should belong to Sweden!
@@1784st I live in Sweden and I don’t think so, it should be independent
@@1784stno if it’s going to belong to anyone it would be Norway
I would think that for Greenland, becoming part of the much larger U.S; economy it would want a closer association with or to be part of the U.S.
A sale of Greenland to the U.S. would no doubt both relieve Denmark of a burden and stoke its immediate economy, for the U.S. it would ensure security to the north preventing a less friendly nation from possibly taking it from Denmark in the future.
As Greenland's ice melts, it'll mean they will need more capital to develop new lands previously unusable.
However due to its far northern location, I really don't see Americans flocking there to settle. For the most part, most Americans prefer temperate climate. Not much would change for Greenland citizens for many years, if ever, and the vast majority of the land would gain further U.S. protection as a vast wide open natural area much like Alaska has been protected.
Given the way that the US treats its own Native American, Greenlanders would have to be absolutely insane to ever want to be dominated by the US.
No hostile nation can "take" Greenland, it is under the protection of Denmark and by extension NATO. It has no need to be under the US for security, on the contrary I would dread what the insane Trump circus would do to exploit the natural ressources of Greenland, and the effects it would have on the environment which is something the Greenlandic people care a lot about, and so should you.
This is exactly why most of the World loathes the US:
Your Imperialist mindset.
I would be way more logical to join Canada in that case... any way they don't want that either way.
Not much will change. How about free medical care, free school and help from government when out of work etc.
Why is greenland still part of denmark? Because they can't support themselves. people there are basically all in goverment support, not just in infrastructurer, but in the jobs greenlanders work.
What nonsense people can say. The Danes will not leave Greenland with their racist and Nazi behavior.
The Danes and Denmark are nothing without Greenland.
I mean.. Atleast their people still exist and have thee right to govern their own land. Go ask Canada and America and Spain what they did with their natives :/
Inuit are no more native to Greenland than Danes are. Inuit come from North America and Danes from Europe. None are native to Greenland.
Denmark did bad things in Greenland as well
i think i heard about 15.000 thousand greenlanders are danish or mixed. In Denmark around 10.000-15.000 greenlanders live. Its like 20% of their population. Seperating our 2 countries sounds like a very difficult task.
Exceptionally good job, talking about the full picture too, if not all the speculations and their grounding. My only criticism would be that Greenland has never been independent. Nominally perhaps, but during ww2 it was immediately occupied by American forces days after Denmark surrendered. They didn't get to live independently, but for a time they felt how nit being a colony feels like.
I don't think Denmark's desire to keep Greenland is about natural resources, as those natural resources could just as well be used by Greenland to finance it's independence.
We, Denmark, gain strategic influence by controlling the foreign policy of Greenland (e.g. though the Thule air base), and Greenland gets money and services that a population of 57,000 cannot provide such as universities, courts, and so on.
Also, giving up Greenland feels like giving up part of our history. The emotional attachment to Greenland is strong.
There is also pride involved. Denmark just feels much bigger and more important with Greenland. Properly not the best reason, but true nonetheless.
Finally, a lot of people of Danish descent do live in Greenland, which is a reason to keep the union together.
However, in the end of day, if Greenland wants independence, then obviously they should have it. People should get to rule themselves, as they see fit.
Inuit be like:
-Have defacto independence(can rule things)
-Receive money to the budget from another pocket
-Have their life going normal as they want
They have to still be technically loyal.
I don't see the problem here.
-Some massive inaccuracies. Greenland does not have a lot of major industries because. It has less than 50.000 citizens spread out across a very, very long coastline. Which means it lacks population density.
It does have some natural minerals, but its comparatively expensive to extract them in the arctic.
The US is interested because
A) Its strategi
B) Trump was told there were trillions in minerals and never realized it would cost far, far more to extract them.
Wow trebbie u do geography now? I just remember ur name out of nowhere, I remenber ur old minecraft streams haha
Standards on Greenland are too high, the Danish government funds it's wealthfare. People have tried to come up with plans that could help paying for everything, however it's almost always based solely on tourism and makes parallels with Iceland. The tourism interest however isn't booming and Greenland has very few options for airports and harbours. It's not tourist friendly.
Natural resources has always been too expensive to even make use of. The initial investment to actually start any natural resource refinement is more than Greenlands GDP. I'm a Dane snd I don't really care as much what the Greenlanders choose to do, but I think it's economical suicidal to leave the Danish realm.
I think you pretty much figured the situation, Trebbie. “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.”
The graphics are nice. But the explanation was less coherent than usual.
It is total nonsense and would require Greenlanders to be complete morons to not recognize the trick Denmark is supposedly playing on them.
Why do you show so many pictures of norwegian fjords when mentioning greenland and Denmark’s relationship i feel colonized and enslaved by the danes (again 😢)
Where are you from to feel ''colonized'' by denmark?
Enslaved is a very strong word to be using, considering that the Norway litteraly chose a danish monarch. When they got their independence.
they always show Norway when talking abut any Scandinavian country, people must get so confused when they visit flat Denmark , if they don't show Norway they show Faroe islands
When is Denmark Returning Greenland to Norway?
Greenland Will never leave my great kingdom denmark🇩🇰
I hope usa doesn’t blow up his own ship again
it'll leave eventually
u forget the strategic part in your analyzes, Greenland is of vital importance strategically. And as u mentioned, part of the Danish family in a cultural way - just like the big brother US, who has np with Greenland being a part of a founding NATO country, that ofc provides bases and as much logistical support as possible, in an increasingly cold-war like environment.
Probably not now, but in the future we'll see an independent Greenland
Sweden occupied Denmark in 1814? That occupation seems to have gone unnoticed by Danes and historians alike.
Everything you say should be taken with a Ton of salt!!!
Just to get things right:
Sweden DID NOT occupy Denmark in 1814! Where does that come from????
And then the gap from 1940 to 2009. No Greenland was not Independent, it was part of Rigsfællesskabet (Commonwealth between Denmark, Greenland and the faroe Islands) and Greenland has two seats in Folketinget (the danish Parliament)
Why Denmark still “Owns” Greenland has a lot more to do with history then economics, but as an American only being able to focus on money I get that you dont understand why we havent “sold” it!
Greenland is not ours to sell, Greenland belongs to Greenland.
I grew up learning from my danish friends that Greenland was always viewed as an investment for the future due to its resources that were under the ice. Danes know Greenland will be beneficial one day, just not yet.
It'll take centuries for significant amounts of land to be revealed, even with rapid melt. Plus the population of Greenland is in decline.
Does somebody know what are the documents, in which its shown how Denmark didn't have a presence in Greenland between 1915-1921
Can you make a strange border from around the world please?
So Grønland independence?
Aap (Ja)
Nei
No
If they want it when they're ready for it.
here is the thing when you ask them, they say that they want it when they no longer need goverment subsidise, from Denmark. But considering that danish subsidies are 20% of GDP, probably gonna take a long time.
Denmark is a very caring country an you frame them as being abusive and colonialists
We were coloniaslist What do you exspect that We are hippies?
Am Danish and let me tell you. We were TERRIBLE to Greenland back in the day
@@spiceboy9691 how so (just want enrich my knowledge about the whole Greenland-Norway-Denmark thingy, like what about the case Eastern Greenland)??
@@Īvï-â-ṣ̌ not quite sure What you mean with the whole eastern Greenland thing Unless you mean norways attempt to get some of Greenland at some point. But among other things we took the children of the people in Greenland to “make them proper danish people” in the fifties and nowadays a Greenlands population is among the highest rate of suicide
@spiceboy9691 Sorry for the terrible question 😅 and thank you for the answer. It was of help, but I'm interested, as a Danish person who do think should "have" Greenland (Denmark or Norway) and why (sorry for all the questions, and sorry if the don't make a lot of sense)
Greenland deal is the same one as the older Iceland deal
I love Denmark and Greenland
As a dane that ending gave me a smirk on my face❤
Remember that Greenlanders wanting independence does NOT mean they want the US or Russia to rule over them instead of Denmark.
But that will be the result.
@@dragon723. What you think you are a prophet or something? How on earth would you know this?
@@dragon723. It would be as stupid for either the US or Russia to do this as it would be for them to shoot a nuke at each other.
Sure I agree they are stupid....but THAT stupid...seriously? That's a bold prediction. I think you are wrong.
@@dragon723. If the US was stupid enough to attack Greenland or force it out of Denmark, it would be the end of NATO and then the US would shoot themselves in the foot, and it would be the end of the US too.
If Russia was stupid enough to attack Greenland, it would be an attack on NATO and that would end in Russia totally collapsing and possibly being destroyed.
You would have more likelihood trying to predict the end of the world...but to end the world over Greenland? I don't see it happening. Greenland would be valuable when the ice melt if we survive that long yes...but that would be FAR into the future and at the rate we are going with wars, the global warming is far more likely to finish us off long before either the US or Russia would do something this desperate.
It honestly would be a extremely stupid move by either of them. I don't think they are that stupid, even if they are both led by very stupid men.
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution Try telling that to Trump or his successors once Greenland stands on its own, a mid sized towns worth of native Americans standing between global superpowers + megacorporations and trillions of $ worth of minerals - assuming global warming continues - and a key strategic position for the Arctic landgrab.
We've heard such stories many, many times before.
Promises will be made of prosperity for both sides, but in the end native Greenlanders will have a handful of glass beads and a tiny reservation somewhere out of the way.
Didn't America occupy Greenland during WW2?
they still do , and it's not Denmark who doesn't want foreign investors , it's the US pressuring Denmark to keep Chinese investors out!!, there are actually a few foreign investors , but anytime China wants to make a deal with China, Denmark gets a call from the US
Why would greenlanders want independence? is the same question i'm asking myself then why not Hawai, Alaska, The islands in the pacific ocean do not say the same to the US? because it is too far? Why the east of Russia bordering with North Corea and Mongolia do not want to separate from Moscow? just asking or it is because there are not danes living in Greenland practically?
Im danish and thers was not war in 1814 but in 1878😅🎉😂
My question for Greenland is why not join Canada? Look at a globe and you will see how much sense that would make. Greenland would flourish as part of Canada!!! Independence for Greenland just plain isn't going to happen because it would be woefully impractical. But going with Canada as part of a negotiated arrangement between Ottawa and Copenhagen makes ample sense.
The suggestion of Greenland flourishing as part of Canada is indeed perplexing. It's unclear what advantages Canada could offer that Denmark doesn't already provide. Greenlanders largely aspire to full independence, recognizing its current economic impracticality. As a Dane, I fully support Greenland's pursuit of independence. Should they choose independence via referendum, I would respect their decision, as any supporter of democracy would.
Therefore, the idea of the US attempting to purchase Greenland is absurd. It treats Greenland as a mere commodity, disregarding the will of its people. Denmark cannot simply sell Greenland; it's not a possession to be traded. Greenland is an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark, and its future should be determined by its own inhabitants.
@@AndreasRugtvedNeumannyou should look at the other comment is sent
4:20 At that time Greenland will seek independence from Denmark and try to keep all their wealth to themselves. A little payback would be nice 👌 thanks 🇩🇰
Why should Greenland leave Denmark for any reason? How is that a benefit to either Greenlanders or Danes? It is foreign interest who has this as a wishful thinking, especially now because of global warming and the threat of WW3. But regardless of if you look at the argument for climate or wars, it would be far better for both Greenland, Denmark and the world in general if Greenland remains with Denmark and is not put in the hands of Russia, the US, China or any other super-power.
The idea of the US attempting to purchase Greenland is "Absurd". It treats Greenland as a mere commodity, disregarding the will of its people. Denmark cannot simply sell Greenland; it's not a possession to be traded. Greenland is an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark, and its future should be determined by its own inhabitants.
This isn't 1917. We're discussing democratic nations and autonomous regions. Greenland is no longer a Danish colony.
Denmark cannot sell Greenland, just as the UK cannot sell Scotland or Wales, nor can the US sell Alaska. The situations are comparable.
Greenland, Scotland, and Wales all have the right to pursue independence. If they choose to leave their respective kingdoms through a referendum, and are permitted to do so legally, they could theoretically also choose to join another country via a similar process. The notion of simply buying Greenland from Denmark is absurd and reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of democratic principles.
Greenlanders largely aspire to full independence, recognizing its current economic impracticality. As a Dane, I fully support Greenland's pursuit of self-determination. Should they choose independence via referendum, I would respect their decision, as any supporter of democracy would.
Some countries should, objectively not be independent, as you’ve said yourself.
The will of the people is only 50% of the equation, the other 50% is the actual logistics of statehood, of which Greenland does not meet the succeed as a country, the human conditions in Greenland would plummet if Denmark left, the current situation is extremely mutually beneficial, Denmark gets access to the large reserves of natural resources found in Greenland, and Greenland benefits from the infrastructure, subsidies, cheaper imports, and jobs created by the mining.
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While leaving the Kingdom of Denmark in the current circumstances would be a foolish, I would still support such a decision if it were the outcome of a legitimate referendum. I believe any true democrat would uphold the right of self-determination.
Ultimately, the decision regarding Greenland's independence rests solely with the people of Greenland.
@ self determination at the cost of human life and suffering. people can be led astray and lied to and not understand the true ramifications of their vote. No democratic country allows its people to vote to abolish the government nor make murder legal.
Maybe the Inuit would have their say, whether or not they can join NATO...
i get it, don’t make this suriname 2.0
Now it's going to become American 🇺🇸❤
Soon...
I’m amazed China isn’t yelling that it belongs to them😂😂😂
Why would China yell that?
Please check your data, do a bit more of historical research and remake the video…. Thanks in advance 😉
Denmark are still a colonist. Terrible that danes don't let Greenlands indigous people be independent.
I saw a YT video where people fra Faroe Islands wants to be independent, men Denmark don't let them go.
Speaking as a Dane, Greenland is free to leave our kingdom, but they cannot financially uphold their nation, we pay for their way of life. We are not colonists we are in a kingdom together and no one is forcing them to stay. in fact they are costing us a ton of money. You seem very ignorant, you should do more research before you insult an entire country and its people.
stop insult my loved Kingdom Denmark we have one of the worlds best kingdom and country
Denmark should sell greenland to San marino fr fr
No my country would never sell Greenland ngl :D
@@MokoSillyz and can't.
@@fastertove yep
it is very dissapointing to know they are using the ice melting as an advantage.
What is the big deal about Greenland? Most of it is permanently covered with ice. The rest is frozen tundra. That's why nobody lives there. (Almost).
I want independence but I still live off of my parents.
Greenland can play both sides of the Atlantic now - Denmark and the US. They need to get the best deal possible from Trump and Denmark at the same time.
Greenland doesn’t get to chose to go to US, they are not a sovereign nation
Yessir am early
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The Nordics came to Greenland before the Canadian Inuits. Greenland is Danish, and if they don't like it they can go back to Canada.
The USA needs Greenland for military reasons.
To set up anti missile defense.
Greenland gets bars for the GIs.😂
What if the US offered ever resident $1M to become part of the US? (60 B). Would they take it?
1m million dollars isent much money. And the US has offerd to buy greenland 3 times, But denmark refuses
No
no they won't
why would they want to belong to that shithole? with Denmark they get free healthcsre, free education, a years parental leave etc.........do they get that with the shithole....no.
Greenland AND the
Faroe Islands, Iceland,
the Orkney Islands +
Svalbard are all (back
in day) Norwegian.
But! No matter what,
when Trump finds
out, how much each
Greenlander receives
in free benefits, he
will run for the hills 😅
Another fun fact:
The gun laws in Green-
land are MUCH LESS
restrictive than in the
US. 🇩🇰 ☃️ 🇬🇱
I want Greenland to. Be a. Permanent. Country
You really have to be on point, making a video about political "issues" and be sure that your facts are right. You know that people with more knowledge is going to comment and "debunk" your video in the comment, making you seem like a untrustworthy narrator. This can bleed into your other videos too, and you will lose credibility.
To make it short for you to understand, the population of Greenland, would not be able to sustain education of nurses, doctors, carpenters, politicians, teachers, electricians, mechanics, garbage collectors, dock workers, sailors, fishermen, store clerks, and the hundreds of other jobtitles that is relevant to run a society. I'm a Dane, and im 100% supporting the people of greenland, if they want to cut all ties from Denmark. If it meant more money to people living in mainland Denmark, And a better feeling for the greenlandic people, then im all for it. Sadly, the people living there, would have some issues with their economy and geography. There is not much they can export, and everything has to be importet there. Who would pay for that? A big part of the workforce in greenland is ethnic danes working there, everything from school teachers, police etc etc. Denmark is a hub for people from greenland to get education (that might not be available on greenland). Maybe it is not about "Pride" from danish side that keeps greenland around, because Everyone i know, don't care. Greenland doesn't offer the regular dane anything and No one goes around with the prospect, that in 200 years, maybe we''ll be able to go there, and search for oil. I'm all fine with greenland having ties with Denmark, and us having to support financially, and with education and import/export to their land, but if they don't want to be within the union, then they are free to leave. I love greenland and i have a friend who's from Nuuk and he doesn't care either. He has no "pride" that he wants to uphold, and doesn't support the idea, that Greenland could be selfsufficient the way it is now.
No. Wrong. Denmark protects greenland against both Putler and Orange Hamberder
So because 50k People living in a giant land mass and lived there as nomadic people before. Does it mean they should own the whole country? They first entered Greenland from America in Middle Ages. That was after Vikings settled Greenland. But Vikings left it again.
Norway and later Denmark owned the land. Greenlanders are now 25% European (DNA) and will still rely on external help going forward.
Countries like the US can invest/trade with the country, like the rest of the world (this includes Denmark), if they want their share.
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@@raflykato1789 What is?
Wait is there people in greenland
Probably
Eh Sweden never occupied Denmark, where do you get your information from? 🤨🤔
W video
The USA should have never given Greenland back to Denmark
It like a stated of the USA wanting independence they can’t it how the world works plus the USA only got it to help the war effort so after it had to give it back or it would be invaded by the soviet union British empire all the other allies
??? it was never in the hands of the u.s. The U.S was allowed to build the Thule base on Greenland, but thats it. The arrogance of americans is astounding.
I forgot that Denmark had to give up mainland Norway until you reminded me. Thanks!
Greenland should always be under Danish possession
why
@@peterpeterpeterpeterpeterpete it wouldnt survive on its own
@@bakedpotato9979 as a Kalaalleq (Greenlander), that's a pretty debatable claim, and even if it wouldn't currently survive at the moment, it definitely would later on as the resources begin to get uncovered by the ice
@@peterpeterpeterpeterpeterpete your resources in question are in the habital land where cattle is and denmark pays you 80% or smth so greenland surviving without denmark is debatble since nations like drc and many african countries have resources yet havent survived so saying you have resources isnt even a reliable reason why greenland would survive on its own in my opinion you should slowly get less and less funds from denmark and slowly get more autonomy untill it seems greenland can survive without danish funds
@@bakedpotato9979 yeah fair point. that's pretty much the exact reason why Greenland still isn't independent yet even though they are fully able to do so. We would rather progressively work towards it instead of getting it right now
Isn't all land in America stolen ?
@ForeSightAndWisdom "quite being such a sidst with guilt trippin bru" Did someone drop you on your head as a child ??? what happened here 🤣🤡
Scandinavians settled Greenland before the Inuits, blody ignorant.
@@Einherjar-DK You fly the Raven banner and cries about 'stolen' land 🤡
@@mammasut8280 I'm not actually! This video is! I was pointing out the hypocrisy, of the video author complaining about land theft, that happened over 200 years ago, when he himself is living on land that was also stolen.
The vikings where the first human to land on Greenland
No, Norway did not come to Greenland first, a Danish Viking did, who at that time also had Norway under the Danish kingdom
Denmark: am taking Greenland from you
Norway: nooooo
Greenland: noooo
Later in the 21 century
Norway: hey Denmark I found even more oil 🤑
Denmark:😞
Should be noted, that Denmark is still one of the largest produceres of oil in europe (number 7).
Norway bigger
@@pmaster1238 Beeing 7th in europe is terrible since like under 10 dont even have oil in the first place
and your point being? (JUST WONDARING)
I still find joy in the fact, that the Danish prime minister humiliated Donald Trump in public and triggered him into losing what little composure he had.
sorry to steal your joy , as a Dane I have seen many American post about the Danish PM saying about the suggestion to buy Greenland "it's absurd" she wasn't actually talking about Trump , the last time her political party was in charge in Denmark they sold our state owned energy company to Goldman Sachs or 49% of it , the journalist said if we could trust her not to sell Greenland to the USA as they had sold the energy company, and it was this question she said was absurd , however it spread all over the world that she was speaking of Trump , that said it's not possible to sell a country today without the population in the country accepting it, so Denmark can't sell Greenland even if we wanted to it's against UN solution, and also against the agreement between Denmark and Greenland , the US have put a lot of pressure on Denmark regarding Greenland for decades, it's actually not Denmark that don't want foreign investors, it's the US!!!!! they don't want China to invest in Greenland , Greenland had made an agreement with China about an airport , Denmark had no issues with it, the Obama called and the deal with China was broken and Denmark invested in the airport instead , the whole "Trump buying Greenland" was about the US wanting Denmark to tke more control about what happens in Greenland and make sure to keep China out
@@veronicajensen7690 Thank you for correcting me.
Greenland can become independent the moment they decide it by a referendum. They should stop crying, and start acting. It's pathetic to watch adults act like victims when they have free will, just like the rest of us.
i believe they are working towards a constitution first and also trying to figure out other logistics b4 that happens
@@paintingdreams290 Yeah the thing with the constitution is that it has taken more then 20 years to figure that one out, and 20% of Greenlands GDP is just from danish subsidies. Lastly the largest imployer in Greenland is the public.
The Inuit were: f off Norse man, we want to fish
The first encounters between inhabitants of greenland and the norse were with the dorset, not the inuit. by the time the inuit had come, there were already norse knowledge of greenland and settlements
@@kirliaiscool Yeah thats the thing theInuit killed the dorset and took there land. Its funny but norsemen have more of a right to the land then the Inuit if you think about it. But thats only if you wanna use the same argument that the tribes in the US uses with the whole their lands were stolen we need reperations. Though this is not because i think Inuit dont have any right to Greenland.