When I was in Iraq my Iraqi interpreter explained it like this. "One wife isn't enough. Two wives and they compete for your affection. Three wives and two will gang up on one. Four or more and you will have peace in the home."
That’s actually heavenly with how genius that is. The 4th makes the war go away. So if you wanna see a war, bring the 3rd into the relationship months before the 4th girl. If you don’t want a war between them, bring the 3rd and 4th in at the same time.
@@JO3DIGGA You're an idiot, groups of 4 girls fight all the time. Im thinking the "peace" the sheepfucking iraqi thinks is attained is aided with all the wife beating they do. Grow up, you should try to get a single girl before four.
Xingabus s I’m talking without the woman beating. And why comment on something if you have nothing to add other than your own disgust? I stopped doing that a while ago, chill.
Xingabus s and yes they fight But the peace for men is that they know they’re replaceable so they stop playing those low level mind games of “I’m gonna leave you” cause nobody cares if they left.
Yeah. He's trying to work out the base idea and they are caught on implementation details and possible pitfalls. It's what happens when you try to start something radically different. People scared to stick their neck out there.
You Patrice ball-washers are ridiculous. It’s called conversation. They all have different ideas and they are sharing them. How can you mold a good idea if everybody agrees? It’s good to hear opposing viewpoints. It’ll only make your own viewpoint stronger. I love Patrice, but he wasn’t perfect. Everything he said wasn’t correct or profound. He was not a genius. He was an interesting, funny, and entertaining man. But he was just a man.
usern4metak3ns not really because we have accepted their sexuality in terms of being in a faithful relationship and only fucking one person. That’s considerate the norm in society.
@Matt He explained the concept before many times. His happiness is paramount and it trickles down from him. If he is happy she is happy. If she does things to make him happy she would be happy. Why do you think she was in threesomes and swinging with him if she was miserable about it?
40:38 “I’ve figured out monogamy. You just don’t pay your bitch no attention. That’s the ultimate thing. Just let her run around and make choices and make suggestions and you just go whatever bitch. Because her shit is based on emotion. I’m trying to logically think of something that can battle her emotion. That’s it.”
What a great mind Patrice always knew how to get a point across even if at first it sounds crazy af. Wish we could still have his take on the world r.i.p Patrice
Yes it's the stigma and it's men's unwillingness to present it as a viable option. The problem is that Patrice didn't have access to people who could guide him along and help him develop a situation with mulitple women. Without a plan, this won't work. Men need to bounce ideas off each other and develop plans
It wouldn't help most men. The top 20% that were into that would have 40% of the women at least, and 20% of guys that might otherwise get a girl would be left out. That doesn't work well, it's why monogamous societies are generally more successful and stable than polygamous ones.
Even in Polygamous societies not every man has multiple women. There would be no shortage. And this idea of men having more than one woman is beneficial for the man, therefore it needs to be explored. In the U.S. We practice pseudo-monogamy, where men are coerced, influenced, or shamed into being monogamous even though many want more women. It doesn't benefit the man and the family structure tends to break down easily due to stress, lack of resources, etc
@@snapeinvader Polygamy definitely worked for the mormons when they needed lots of hands on their homesteads and in african countries where wars kill off a lot more of the men but in a more established society at some point that unequal distribution would tip to a point that a conflict would arise just like wars have been fought over resources. All that testosterone and no fucking to burn it off would make for some violent guys for sure. I don't think monogamy should be the only option for everyone though.
Everytime I hear that Mr. Perfect WWE reference by Patrice, I can't help but laugh uncontrollably. "He spits in the air then smacks it like gum" lmao aww man I miss him.
Many children grow up in gay families, polyamorist families, single parents, foster homes, and end up just fine. If your argument is logically sound, which this case of Patrices argument is, and everyone involved is happy, it's really irrelevant what strangers think and if you can't bring your children up to be as mentally strong as yourself then you are weak to begin with.
But this seems to fall apart on jealousy. Most people get jealous, and I doubt Patrice wanted Von banging other guys; he was relying on his tight game to keep her with him.
@@snapeinvader well yes and no. Patrice said he does get jealous however he trained himself to not care about cheating because that's how he learned how to spite cheating females because they hate when no one cares what they do for attention
Yes His argument was sound. I wish he could have elaborated even more with others who could elevate his understanding of a polygynous relationship (one man, multiple women) and how to successfully operate within one. Because of this conversation, I have chosen to study polygyny in great depth. Very few people online speak with the honesty and thoughtfulness Patrice did.
As a woman, this is by far one of my favorite Patrice snippets. He’s so dead on about why we cheat. I listen for entertainment and educational purposes. I’m just tryin to learn how to be a better hoe 🤷♀️
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Disregarding the forced social and religious norms of other people to freely pursue your own ideals of a happy and functioning relationship is not the same thing as anarchy, and you are reaching very, very far to try to connect the two.
Because it would destabilize society. For every man that could get multiple women, which would usually be men of status there would be men who would get none . In other words all the rich/famous guys would get all the girls and the average Joe would get none. And sexually frustrated males eventually topple society it's historically proven. That's why societies across the world tilt towards monogamy.
These guys don't know the word pride, yet it's the biggest issue to the concept. Jealousy is derived from hurt pride. Patrice figured out how to put it aside.
I'm married, for the year before i got hitched, my wife and I had a relationship with another woman...sometimes we would have threesomes, sometimes id be with one or the other. now besides those 2 I also have another side chick, that im friends with and we fool around every once and awhile. My wife knows and neither of us could be more happy in our lives.
same here! Been poly for years with my primary partner of 10 years and we have dated girls throughout the yearz with no issue. We are just open and cut through the games and bullshit to eliminate any problems while making our relationship better in the process
People often conflate the Catholic Church/Christianity and the Bible. They're two completely separate entities. The Catholic Church came up with monogamy for population control and for deception of the masses. Yet in the Bible there are multiple patriarchal figures and kings who had multiple wives and mistresses. You then have to start questioning yourself if what the church is teaching you is actually biblical and are we being taught "societal norms" or are we being reprogrammed.
I love how in old episodes, anthony is talking about loving and stuff like that. And now, he is jaded and says love doesn't exist. Patrice would've loved who anthony became
Sam Tan, whats the problem with his TOT (train of thought)? How could you just say how he is feeling? He's said that it wasn't just about sex. Being greedy is a human trait. In some way, everyone wants or wanted something more than the societal standard. He also said that he was open to with the woman have another male partnertemp or permanent. He said he doesn't know what will happen later as he hadn't accomplished this yet so how do you know how it will play out? Then his hobbies is his. He was already making a mark on the world so what does he need to create another interest for? He also was trying to help others with is outlook so him keeping focus on the world of women is why I wish he was alive still. I love his comedy but Patrice outside of stand up is what sold me on him. His point about the women and multiple men is that innately, women don't want multiple men at the same time but that doesn't mean that someone can go against nature. There is a lot of "going against nature" going on already outside of this subject. Innately, men want more women but don't want to share women but he seems open to it from what he's saying. I don't know him like that to say what he's thinking without of a base of thought. I'm going by the things he has said in the 70+ hrs of O&A featuring him and Black Phillip. Also, conditioning is always going on in relationships. Thats how they know how to treat you and how you treat them. There is NOTHING wrong with conditioning a mate to be THE mate for YOU, whether it's one or multiple. Also no intent to offend.
@@usern4metak3ns Dude, grow up. Don't gotta shit on a legend to make a point, especially when it's a weak one. I'm a huge Patrice fan but tell me what's more selfish than someone eating themselves to death? haha seriously, these videos draw in the weirdest losers
Patrice was vastly superior to all the whites in the room that day. Even more to his credit, he repeatedly exhorted his colleagues to help him flesh out his approach to polyamory rather than shoot holes in it. It's lonely at the top, I suppose.
I can literally get these two girl relationships at will in south america. because theres no stigma there. if anybody wants a tour of medellin colombia hit me up. its heaven on earth.
It’s interesting to find this video. When I brought this up to a female friend she went crazy on a rant saying it’s weird and no one does that and I live in a fantasy world. When in reality she lives in a fantasy waiting for a knight to save her from the long list of men who cheated and left because she wasn’t enough 🤷🏾
Multiple wives, multiple concubines, multiple female slaves, all for bearing the master's children, existing in separate tiers of hierarchy in the master's house, all belonging (property) to the master.
Yo! Cult leader! On the WBA Roast appearance Patrice and the gang decide which guy wins a trip to the Bunny Ranch and Patrice destroys the wife of one of contestants on the phone. Really funny, check it.
I personally know that this is possible and it can work but both parties have to fully agree...I have 2 girlfriends who know about each other but only lives with one but I know we could all live together....imma have to invite this thought to my female
Where's the video where Patrice talks about how men and women have evolved at different speeds since the cavemen days? Can someone tell me which one it is please?
Didn't Anthony hate his wife? From how he used to talk about her it seems like he never really gave a damn about his wife. Didn't he say the main reason he got married was because he wanted to be seen as a man? So it seems like he never really loved her and because of that the situation wouldn't have worked in the first place.
This is a step back to how egalitarian society worked before civilizations organised around agriculture/ property/ ownership. Read Sex at Dawn if you're interested.
None of this is new back in the day when we all lived in small tribes and were a lot more connected men would often have two wives depending on his ability to hunt and acquire resources.
If you can find girls that are into this type of open relationship, then by all means... But niggas... do not expect all girls to be into this... Like one of the guys said with favoritism and how that resentment carries and effects the kid growing up, for a woman forced into the illusion of her happiness through her man, (because it is an illusion as you can't find your happiness THROUGH a relationship but you can find love IN it) happiness is a very, very emotionally and mentally unstable situation,that no girl needs to put herself through, despite Patrices faulty premise eluding to that conclusion. I'm all for open relationships and swinging and all this shit but Patrices SPECIFIC premise and logic on this topic is very faulty on the basis that it only counts the benefit for himself but leaves out the repercussions for everyone else involved, and who gives a fuck if it's a thot, hoe whatever... But if you're in a relationship the other persons feelings should be considered.. you can't "build a bitch", as dumb and inferior as men may think us to be, we are still humans and have to carry these same type of people for 9 months and bring them into the world... It's great and all to reduce society and human nature to the animal kingdom but what makes a human different from an animal is our ability to rationalize... I'm actually a girl that agrees with most of Patrice's philosophy between men and women and just life in general but I really do struggle with his whole premise in women and guidance through relationships.. Although I agree with the idea I think that taking advantage of the fact that women usually love unconditionally is wrong, which is another variable (like emotion) that he leaves out of all of his reasoning! Anyway, Patrice wasn't a philosopher, so I don't expect him to have fool-proof points because he was just a really smart and intuitive guy...RIP to a great guy I just had to comment because people are always so quick to completely digest a manifesto but you should always compare points with your own values and not someone elses.
You have valid points but as with many opinions yours seem to have some emotional genesis. I didn’t gather Patrice was talking about having a thot or hoe but an actual partner. When you mention feelings, again you are correct that a woman’s must come into account but if Patrice for instance doesn’t place value on his woman’s feelings as is then he won’t care about the consequences that ensue once both partners have agreed to the relationship. Great perspective tho.
I may be a bit premature in the video answering this question, but I think it's pretty fucking obvious. When it's one person, that person is _distinguished_. A more hardcore version of having only one mother and one father. Then there's the fact that there's only one of every individual in your life. Distinguishing. We want to be set apart. And I wondered to myself before I started listening to this one video: what would Patrice say if his woman decided she wanted the same thing? Would he be okay with that?
Struggle is real training two bitches. My shits fucked up bc my main girl is starting to get some thoughts or revolution or some shit 😂 so she's giving me some push back and our other girl is cool but she ain't love me like my main girl does. I'm not sure whether to drop my main girl and start all over or what
Gino Gambino you right the struggle is real, but that is the part that makes you seem that much sexier to them and other women. Women know that as a creature that they suck, and are hard to deal with. So they know that any man that can Train more than one has to be something to admire
I like the logic he is building on here. not flawless, but respectable. basically how can a guy attempt to have an extra relationship on top of a committed relationship. finances and marriage is a 1v1 thing. the sexual part is entirely not lol. but its like he said, its not for everyone, and is really a lover's idealism for like younger guys with energy, emotional stability, and enough money lol ....and perhaps good virtues too
Me and my wife have setup a similar situation where we can flirt with other people, and go out with other people, or fuck other people IF the other partner approves of the person, and it can only happen once (to avoid attachment). I'm thankful to Patrice for helping me to be honest in this relationship from the start so that years on, we're both so honest and frank about everything that we trust eachother completely, and this gives us a superpower that we can let the other fool around with other people and rather than it be a secret, it's something we share. You need a girl who's honest to a fault, but you need to be an honest man from the start. You can't turn around one day in your traditional bullshit relationship and come out with 100% honesty. It has to be from the beginning.
It's sooo anoying how right he is. He just focused on him being happy and letting the chaotic nature of life be what it is. But, I think monogomy comes from not wanting that.
You have to take Norton with a grain of salt. Most of his stories are half true. He isnt near the level as Patrice or even Bill Burr or Louis C.k. I could be wrong but Norton is a great support act, not a main event.
I'm sure this works in the right kind of relationship, but there's no way that Patrice was in love with his girl. I have never once heard Patrice say "I'm in love with my girl", and that sums it up. That is why he can so easily equate loving his girl to the same level as loving his family. Patrice actually criticised Opie once by saying "you in love muthafucker", so the reason why Opie can't get past the jealousy is that he was actually IN LOVE (as in constant butterflies and all that corny stuff). This would work perfectly in a vapid relationship, but if you're actually in love, the jealousy would tear you apart. I'm sure patrice loved his girl very much, but he obviously wasn't in love with her.
He said he loved his girl probably hundreds a of times, on and off o and a. The butterflies in your stomach feeling you're referring to is nervousness/anxiousness from a person feeling emotions they are unfamiliar with. That's why it's so common among young couples or those who started dating young, they haven't experienced a variety of partners and aren't prepared to deal with their emotions. Then they work themselves up into think the newness of the experience is itself the experience, when it's just their reaction to the relationship. Patrice had been loved by plenty of women, he wasn't new to the idea of loving someone emotionally which is why he was able consider these alternative lifestyles. Opie on the other hand was a late bloomer on top of not having much of a life outside his work day. When he felt the slightest emotions for a girl, he dove headfirst in and called it love because he isn't sure he'll ever find love again.
+2lowkey100 I dont think that jealousy is supposed to be associated with love naturally. It's through society's emphasis on ownership that jealousy and envy is so apparent in life. People are just use to having it appear together so they assume that its how it supposed to be. True love is only there when you care about the other person's happiness and quality of live only. That means being totally honest when they need some help in life even if they might not want to hear it or like what's being said and encouragement to be happy with whoever they want or need to be with though you would be happier if its with you. It's not as easy to have pure love towards someone but its much better than what's considered love in society today. Through personal growth and social awareness to recognize and separate how you feel and how society wants you to feel, you can get there.
It's all about learning about ourselves as humans separate from society, learning about societies influence on people and their methods/standards, and using that information to further develop into the best person you can be so you and your mate(s) can be, and stay, happy.
No thanks. I don't condone anarchy. Sure, there are people who can work without guidelines. People who don't need rules or religion to tell them what's right and what wrong. And I applaud and admire them. But the majority of this world is in desperate need of rules and guidelines. Trust me, you don't know what you're asking for.
But Patrice IS looking at the suggestion of being with more than one woman in a logical manner, rather than a reckless anarchist way. He even admits whether it's his own desire to have a continuous flow of threesomes that's really causing him to want it to work. Very insightful.
Initially I thought Patrice was just on some more BS like usual. But He started making a lot of sense lol. My only problem/question is what would you tell your kids? Your parents? The womens parents?
Coach the truth. Fuck what they think of you, if someone outside of the relationship doesn’t accept it doesn’t mean something is wrong with it. That’s the problem Patrice was addressing. We so absorbed about what outsiders think about our fuckin happiness. Fuck em
this dead man still holds more wisdom than most living men.
Nah
still very true today
This is so true
To this day
Yeah most wise men do...
When I was in Iraq my Iraqi interpreter explained it like this. "One wife isn't enough. Two wives and they compete for your affection. Three wives and two will gang up on one. Four or more and you will have peace in the home."
That’s actually heavenly with how genius that is. The 4th makes the war go away. So if you wanna see a war, bring the 3rd into the relationship months before the 4th girl. If you don’t want a war between them, bring the 3rd and 4th in at the same time.
@@JO3DIGGA You're an idiot, groups of 4 girls fight all the time. Im thinking the "peace" the sheepfucking iraqi thinks is attained is aided with all the wife beating they do. Grow up, you should try to get a single girl before four.
Xingabus s I’m talking without the woman beating. And why comment on something if you have nothing to add other than your own disgust? I stopped doing that a while ago, chill.
Xingabus s and yes they fight But the peace for men is that they know they’re replaceable so they stop playing those low level mind games of “I’m gonna leave you” cause nobody cares if they left.
sorry u aint' gonna have peace in ur home if you have 4 fuckin wives.. ONLY if they're mute and deaf
Dude... it's fucking HARD to have good ideas when you're surrounded by nothing but people that want to throw roadblocks in your way.
Yeah. He's trying to work out the base idea and they are caught on implementation details and possible pitfalls.
It's what happens when you try to start something radically different. People scared to stick their neck out there.
JilesDauz Agreed.
Absolutely man...he even says, "Try to help me!"
And that is why geniuses typically tend to isolate themselves from the masses.
You Patrice ball-washers are ridiculous. It’s called conversation. They all have different ideas and they are sharing them. How can you mold a good idea if everybody agrees? It’s good to hear opposing viewpoints. It’ll only make your own viewpoint stronger. I love Patrice, but he wasn’t perfect. Everything he said wasn’t correct or profound. He was not a genius. He was an interesting, funny, and entertaining man. But he was just a man.
Why does male sexuality have to mirror female sexuality or it's considered wrong.
Or vice versa
usern4metak3ns not really because we have accepted their sexuality in terms of being in a faithful relationship and only fucking one person. That’s considerate the norm in society.
Because we live in a gynocentric society
@@endthefed1448 it's entirely this. Rollo Tomassi explains it to the T.
Cause women have been socially engineered to think like men and men have been socially engineered to think like women.
What Patrice is aiming for, in the bigger picture is putting desire ahead of social acceptance. I 100% agree
It's chaos.
@@radapox how so.
@Matt women do it to us though, if they can be manipulative and narcissistic then it's only EQUAL in a western society that we're able to do it also.
A man rises a love both and does the right and honorable thing whether it’s socially acceptable or fulfills his own desire.
@Matt He explained the concept before many times. His happiness is paramount and it trickles down from him. If he is happy she is happy. If she does things to make him happy she would be happy. Why do you think she was in threesomes and swinging with him if she was miserable about it?
“men want to be alone, not lonely”
Men want to be left alone... not be alone. We can be in the same room but we don’t have to be doing the same thing.
40:38 “I’ve figured out monogamy. You just don’t pay your bitch no attention. That’s the ultimate thing. Just let her run around and make choices and make suggestions and you just go whatever bitch. Because her shit is based on emotion. I’m trying to logically think of something that can battle her emotion. That’s it.”
How is it working out for you so far?
PsychokoreUntergrund It works for me
+PsychokoreUntergrund Pretty fuckin great.
What a great mind Patrice always knew how to get a point across even if at first it sounds crazy af. Wish we could still have his take on the world r.i.p Patrice
patrice has a point the guys dont get. it's not accepted because of the the stigma that goes with it.
it's not accepted because you didn't set the right frame from the beginning
Yes it's the stigma and it's men's unwillingness to present it as a viable option. The problem is that Patrice didn't have access to people who could guide him along and help him develop a situation with mulitple women. Without a plan, this won't work. Men need to bounce ideas off each other and develop plans
It wouldn't help most men. The top 20% that were into that would have 40% of the women at least, and 20% of guys that might otherwise get a girl would be left out. That doesn't work well, it's why monogamous societies are generally more successful and stable than polygamous ones.
Even in Polygamous societies not every man has multiple women. There would be no shortage. And this idea of men having more than one woman is beneficial for the man, therefore it needs to be explored. In the U.S. We practice pseudo-monogamy, where men are coerced, influenced, or shamed into being monogamous even though many want more women. It doesn't benefit the man and the family structure tends to break down easily due to stress, lack of resources, etc
@@snapeinvader Polygamy definitely worked for the mormons when they needed lots of hands on their homesteads and in african countries where wars kill off a lot more of the men but in a more established society at some point that unequal distribution would tip to a point that a conflict would arise just like wars have been fought over resources. All that testosterone and no fucking to burn it off would make for some violent guys for sure. I don't think monogamy should be the only option for everyone though.
37:00 "You welcome." Right there patrice started going in. "Go ahead memorable, go ahead unforgettable. Finish your statement." LMMAOO!
Everytime I hear that Mr. Perfect WWE reference by Patrice, I can't help but laugh uncontrollably. "He spits in the air then smacks it like gum" lmao aww man I miss him.
Many children grow up in gay families, polyamorist families, single parents, foster homes, and end up just fine. If your argument is logically sound, which this case of Patrices argument is, and everyone involved is happy, it's really irrelevant what strangers think and if you can't bring your children up to be as mentally strong as yourself then you are weak to begin with.
But this seems to fall apart on jealousy. Most people get jealous, and I doubt Patrice wanted Von banging other guys; he was relying on his tight game to keep her with him.
@@snapeinvader well yes and no. Patrice said he does get jealous however he trained himself to not care about cheating because that's how he learned how to spite cheating females because they hate when no one cares what they do for attention
Yes His argument was sound. I wish he could have elaborated even more with others who could elevate his understanding of a polygynous relationship (one man, multiple women) and how to successfully operate within one. Because of this conversation, I have chosen to study polygyny in great depth. Very few people online speak with the honesty and thoughtfulness Patrice did.
This is Patrice legacy
As a woman, this is by far one of my favorite Patrice snippets. He’s so dead on about why we cheat. I listen for entertainment and educational purposes. I’m just tryin to learn how to be a better hoe 🤷♀️
This dude really did master social dynamics
Blessings on your journey
Bless your little dirtbag heart for seeking out the answers. The world needs more good soldiers like you.
😂
I feel like patrice had the kanye syndrome. He speaks so much truth but his delivery method is so ... Abrasive and harsh
One day I'm a just chill all day and watch all of these videos.
Listen from shower to car.... on the way to work.
While I'm at work I listened to all the Black Phillip episodes...Pure Gold my friend...
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Disregarding the forced social and religious norms of other people to freely pursue your own ideals of a happy and functioning relationship is not the same thing as anarchy, and you are reaching very, very far to try to connect the two.
Then what's your opinion about anarchy's like
This nigga is brilliant
Baba Booey true indeed
Michele Cobré RIP God!
He is so right. RIP ❤️
he left the world too soon brah. r.i.p patrice
I’m with Patrice..... WHY NOT?!
The only thing stopping us from doing this is fear.
The only thing stopping us from doing this is fear.
Because it would destabilize society. For every man that could get multiple women, which would usually be men of status there would be men who would get none . In other words all the rich/famous guys would get all the girls and the average Joe would get none.
And sexually frustrated males eventually topple society it's historically proven.
That's why societies across the world tilt towards monogamy.
These guys don't know the word pride, yet it's the biggest issue to the concept. Jealousy is derived from hurt pride. Patrice figured out how to put it aside.
Whose pride did he put aside?))
"He raises a good point Joe, you are a sandwich three weeks ago." HAHAHAHAHA
Feel like no matter how much longer I live i'll never forget Patrice...rip big man we all miss you
"i love both of you all and ima miss you " this shit its fucking golden
LMAO
I'm married, for the year before i got hitched, my wife and I had a relationship with another woman...sometimes we would have threesomes, sometimes id be with one or the other. now besides those 2 I also have another side chick, that im friends with and we fool around every once and awhile. My wife knows and neither of us could be more happy in our lives.
Paul Lizzi You know you gotta let her fuck other guys, right?
anim3z4u Why?
+anim3z4u no he do sent he is an alpha male
same here! Been poly for years with my primary partner of 10 years and we have dated girls throughout the yearz with no issue. We are just open and cut through the games and bullshit to eliminate any problems while making our relationship better in the process
When Patrice starts browbeatin' DeRosa about being a little bitch, PURE GOLD!
Lmao when patrice told norton, "fucking you is like fucking a turtle without the shell!" Omg that shit had me weak...
The key is to have your girl pick a girl that she likes more than you do. Then you both indulge
The Catholic Church came up with monagamy. But Patrice is right on with his thinking, and actually it's true thinking even biblically.
Kyle Dempsey Prophet Muhammad had 11 Wives. Look up his life story.
@Kyle Dempsey but you just said he was a nut now he a nut with skills? you just a hater
People often conflate the Catholic Church/Christianity and the Bible. They're two completely separate entities. The Catholic Church came up with monogamy for population control and for deception of the masses. Yet in the Bible there are multiple patriarchal figures and kings who had multiple wives and mistresses. You then have to start questioning yourself if what the church is teaching you is actually biblical and are we being taught "societal norms" or are we being reprogrammed.
Patrice is the modern day Plato
I love how in old episodes, anthony is talking about loving and stuff like that. And now, he is jaded and says love doesn't exist. Patrice would've loved who anthony became
This was a great upload, much appreciated
why can't it all be three of them paying financially
When I heard this conversation seven years ago I was relieved to find a notable figure voicing his desire to be in a tripod.
much better without opie
man this is the realest shit sometimes u want more but u know u cant have it
Sam Tan, whats the problem with his TOT (train of thought)? How could you just say how he is feeling? He's said that it wasn't just about sex. Being greedy is a human trait. In some way, everyone wants or wanted something more than the societal standard. He also said that he was open to with the woman have another male partnertemp or permanent. He said he doesn't know what will happen later as he hadn't accomplished this yet so how do you know how it will play out? Then his hobbies is his. He was already making a mark on the world so what does he need to create another interest for? He also was trying to help others with is outlook so him keeping focus on the world of women is why I wish he was alive still. I love his comedy but Patrice outside of stand up is what sold me on him. His point about the women and multiple men is that innately, women don't want multiple men at the same time but that doesn't mean that someone can go against nature. There is a lot of "going against nature" going on already outside of this subject. Innately, men want more women but don't want to share women but he seems open to it from what he's saying. I don't know him like that to say what he's thinking without of a base of thought. I'm going by the things he has said in the 70+ hrs of O&A featuring him and Black Phillip. Also, conditioning is always going on in relationships. Thats how they know how to treat you and how you treat them. There is NOTHING wrong with conditioning a mate to be THE mate for YOU, whether it's one or multiple. Also no intent to offend.
if I had a choice to bring someone back in entertainment, I'm torn between Patrice and Prince...
rawsko0316 I'm taking Patrice.
Love Prince but Patrice did so much for men we need him back man
George Carlin
to benifit men im going with patrice but prince is one of my role models.
@@usern4metak3ns Dude, grow up. Don't gotta shit on a legend to make a point, especially when it's a weak one. I'm a huge Patrice fan but tell me what's more selfish than someone eating themselves to death? haha seriously, these videos draw in the weirdest losers
These all better be saved somewhere in case theyre ever taken off RUclips
Already did it
Patrice was vastly superior to all the whites in the room that day. Even more to his credit, he repeatedly exhorted his colleagues to help him flesh out his approach to polyamory rather than shoot holes in it. It's lonely at the top, I suppose.
Put polygamy on TV all day everyday like they do LGBT and then that will make having multiple girlfriends the norm.
It’s happening.
I can literally get these two girl relationships at will in south america. because theres no stigma there. if anybody wants a tour of medellin colombia hit me up. its heaven on earth.
Yo lol
i use to date a girl from cali colombia
Oh shut the fuck up, I live in Medellin and you can't have that kind of relationship here unless you're rich and got them out of a fucking brothel.
It’s interesting to find this video. When I brought this up to a female friend she went crazy on a rant saying it’s weird and no one does that and I live in a fantasy world. When in reality she lives in a fantasy waiting for a knight to save her from the long list of men who cheated and left because she wasn’t enough 🤷🏾
Hearing these guys argue against Patrice is really sickening lol
I figured out monogamy “ you don’t pay your bitch no attention “ 😀😀
Ahead of his time!! This is greatness!! Rest in paradise King!! We will continue the teachings!!
Thank you Mister P. you are the uncle i never had. rest in peace.
Multiple wives, multiple concubines, multiple female slaves, all for bearing the master's children, existing in separate tiers of hierarchy in the master's house, all belonging (property) to the master.
2:39. 4:28 6:01hard to find that 9:10😂😂😂😂 -14:52-why women cheat/why men cheat. 20:00
This may be one of his best sermons
funniest, smartest, best....of all time....Mr. O'Neal. Rest in peace, Sir.
14:51 men don't cheat out of vengeance
Yo! Cult leader! On the WBA Roast appearance Patrice and the gang decide which guy wins a trip to the Bunny Ranch and Patrice destroys the wife of one of contestants on the phone. Really funny, check it.
What a intellectual cowards those other guys are. Always looking for a problem to every solution.
I personally know that this is possible and it can work but both parties have to fully agree...I have 2 girlfriends who know about each other but only lives with one but I know we could all live together....imma have to invite this thought to my female
I need you to teach me lmao
my lord im only 3:10 and the wisdom is crazy
God damn Patrice was the shit.
I’m still watching this in 2020
Having a side peace is work
19:45 the term is "polyamory".
Classic. Thanks for the upload
Reading pa is wild man
Guess Patrice didn’t mean that caller from the black Phillip show yet
He's talking polyamory. A relationship with more than 2.
Polygamy is the same but with marriage.
"People need someone to look up to". Ghali, this is how you control all bitches..., regardless of gender.
i cant listen to the other twos insecurities. always got something neggative to say
its their inner unconscious social confirmative slaves coming out that had been brainwashed from kids.
Where's the video where Patrice talks about how men and women have evolved at different speeds since the cavemen days? Can someone tell me which one it is please?
if you have to ask...
???
If you haven't found it yet, it's when patrice was commenting on David Letterman
He doesn't just want a harem. He wants to understand the philosophy so he can teach other men to have their own harems.
Didn't Anthony hate his wife? From how he used to talk about her it seems like he never really gave a damn about his wife. Didn't he say the main reason he got married was because he wanted to be seen as a man? So it seems like he never really loved her and because of that the situation wouldn't have worked in the first place.
Society took his balls and he doesn’t even know. Patrice was trying to save him but he chose comfort in familiarity and that is weakness
What an innovator
40:41 the ultimate monogamy answer
Listening to this makes being born a man priceless
Man was ahead of his time
All that matters is everybody gets quality time. I pulled this shit off. Its possible.
Ah ahaha there's 5 women for every man!
This is a step back to how egalitarian society worked before civilizations organised around agriculture/ property/ ownership. Read Sex at Dawn if you're interested.
Or just...don't have kids when your doing that "format"
None of this is new back in the day when we all lived in small tribes and were a lot more connected men would often have two wives depending on his ability to hunt and acquire resources.
is this way before meeting Jerry from Connecticut?
Why is this a theory
If you can find girls that are into this type of open relationship, then by all means... But niggas... do not expect all girls to be into this... Like one of the guys said with favoritism and how that resentment carries and effects the kid growing up, for a woman forced into the illusion of her happiness through her man, (because it is an illusion as you can't find your happiness THROUGH a relationship but you can find love IN it) happiness is a very, very emotionally and mentally unstable situation,that no girl needs to put herself through, despite Patrices faulty premise eluding to that conclusion. I'm all for open relationships and swinging and all this shit but Patrices SPECIFIC premise and logic on this topic is very faulty on the basis that it only counts the benefit for himself but leaves out the repercussions for everyone else involved, and who gives a fuck if it's a thot, hoe whatever... But if you're in a relationship the other persons feelings should be considered.. you can't "build a bitch", as dumb and inferior as men may think us to be, we are still humans and have to carry these same type of people for 9 months and bring them into the world... It's great and all to reduce society and human nature to the animal kingdom but what makes a human different from an animal is our ability to rationalize... I'm actually a girl that agrees with most of Patrice's philosophy between men and women and just life in general but I really do struggle with his whole premise in women and guidance through relationships.. Although I agree with the idea I think that taking advantage of the fact that women usually love unconditionally is wrong, which is another variable (like emotion) that he leaves out of all of his reasoning!
Anyway, Patrice wasn't a philosopher, so I don't expect him to have fool-proof points because he was just a really smart and intuitive guy...RIP to a great guy
I just had to comment because people are always so quick to completely digest a manifesto but you should always compare points with your own values and not someone elses.
Correct.... because 1) I'm not gay 2) you want another mate i'mma have another mate... don't like it oh well...
You have valid points but as with many opinions yours seem to have some emotional genesis. I didn’t gather Patrice was talking about having a thot or hoe but an actual partner. When you mention feelings, again you are correct that a woman’s must come into account but if Patrice for instance doesn’t place value on his woman’s feelings as is then he won’t care about the consequences that ensue once both partners have agreed to the relationship. Great perspective tho.
instead of fucking working against me(game breaker)
Patrice is a damn scientist
Also who is the other dude in there?
Jim Norton
I may be a bit premature in the video answering this question, but I think it's pretty fucking obvious. When it's one person, that person is _distinguished_. A more hardcore version of having only one mother and one father. Then there's the fact that there's only one of every individual in your life. Distinguishing. We want to be set apart.
And I wondered to myself before I started listening to this one video: what would Patrice say if his woman decided she wanted the same thing? Would he be okay with that?
Struggle is real training two bitches. My shits fucked up bc my main girl is starting to get some thoughts or revolution or some shit 😂 so she's giving me some push back and our other girl is cool but she ain't love me like my main girl does. I'm not sure whether to drop my main girl and start all over or what
Gino Gambino you right the struggle is real, but that is the part that makes you seem that much sexier to them and other women. Women know that as a creature that they suck, and are hard to deal with. So they know that any man that can Train more than one has to be something to admire
This swinging lifestyle ...is for people who have conviction . Like ,ultimately your partner should be completely into it.
I like the logic he is building on here. not flawless, but respectable. basically how can a guy attempt to have an extra relationship on top of a committed relationship. finances and marriage is a 1v1 thing. the sexual part is entirely not lol.
but its like he said, its not for everyone, and is really a lover's idealism for like younger guys with energy, emotional stability, and enough money lol
....and perhaps good virtues too
Sex is marriage.. contracts is just a paper
Agree, but it has only been a few years, to be fair.
It's culture.
Me and my wife have setup a similar situation where we can flirt with other people, and go out with other people, or fuck other people IF the other partner approves of the person, and it can only happen once (to avoid attachment). I'm thankful to Patrice for helping me to be honest in this relationship from the start so that years on, we're both so honest and frank about everything that we trust eachother completely, and this gives us a superpower that we can let the other fool around with other people and rather than it be a secret, it's something we share. You need a girl who's honest to a fault, but you need to be an honest man from the start. You can't turn around one day in your traditional bullshit relationship and come out with 100% honesty. It has to be from the beginning.
It's sooo anoying how right he is. He just focused on him being happy and letting the chaotic nature of life be what it is.
But, I think monogomy comes from not wanting that.
You have to take Norton with a grain of salt. Most of his stories are half true. He isnt near the level as Patrice or even Bill Burr or Louis C.k. I could be wrong but Norton is a great support act, not a main event.
I'm sure this works in the right kind of relationship, but there's no way that Patrice was in love with his girl. I have never once heard Patrice say "I'm in love with my girl", and that sums it up. That is why he can so easily equate loving his girl to the same level as loving his family. Patrice actually criticised Opie once by saying "you in love muthafucker", so the reason why Opie can't get past the jealousy is that he was actually IN LOVE (as in constant butterflies and all that corny stuff). This would work perfectly in a vapid relationship, but if you're actually in love, the jealousy would tear you apart. I'm sure patrice loved his girl very much, but he obviously wasn't in love with her.
He said he loved his girl probably hundreds a of times, on and off o and a.
The butterflies in your stomach feeling you're referring to is nervousness/anxiousness from a person feeling emotions they are unfamiliar with. That's why it's so common among young couples or those who started dating young, they haven't experienced a variety of partners and aren't prepared to deal with their emotions. Then they work themselves up into think the newness of the experience is itself the experience, when it's just their reaction to the relationship.
Patrice had been loved by plenty of women, he wasn't new to the idea of loving someone emotionally which is why he was able consider these alternative lifestyles. Opie on the other hand was a late bloomer on top of not having much of a life outside his work day. When he felt the slightest emotions for a girl, he dove headfirst in and called it love because he isn't sure he'll ever find love again.
+2lowkey100 I dont think that jealousy is supposed to be associated with love naturally. It's through society's emphasis on ownership that jealousy and envy is so apparent in life. People are just use to having it appear together so they assume that its how it supposed to be. True love is only there when you care about the other person's happiness and quality of live only. That means being totally honest when they need some help in life even if they might not want to hear it or like what's being said and encouragement to be happy with whoever they want or need to be with though you would be happier if its with you. It's not as easy to have pure love towards someone but its much better than what's considered love in society today. Through personal growth and social awareness to recognize and separate how you feel and how society wants you to feel, you can get there.
CultOfBlackPhillip actually you know what, i was wrong. I retract that initial paragraph.
+2lowkey100 This is why Black Phillip fans are the shit. We admit where we were wrong and evolve from it
It's all about learning about ourselves as humans separate from society, learning about societies influence on people and their methods/standards, and using that information to further develop into the best person you can be so you and your mate(s) can be, and stay, happy.
Patrice unknowingly or perhaps knowingly was tapping into deep hedonism philosophy on this one.
I have been living my life like this for years I got my wife and 3 girlfriends...and I live in a trailer because I knoe how to be a man
...sigh.... Never mind. Seems like this will be a ongoing debate.
Note to self: 14:50 Is where the most valuable lesson begins.
Listen right.... come one son!?
Warren buffet does it
No thanks. I don't condone anarchy. Sure, there are people who can work without guidelines. People who don't need rules or religion to tell them what's right and what wrong. And I applaud and admire them. But the majority of this world is in desperate need of rules and guidelines. Trust me, you don't know what you're asking for.
Coach it’s not “Anarchy”. The order is based on the people in the relationship. You have to be strong enough to seek what you really want I suppose.
But Patrice IS looking at the suggestion of being with more than one woman in a logical manner, rather than a reckless anarchist way. He even admits whether it's his own desire to have a continuous flow of threesomes that's really causing him to want it to work. Very insightful.
Me and patrice could have talked on this one. Logic and genetics
He sounds almost polyamorous
Initially I thought Patrice was just on some more BS like usual. But He started making a lot of sense lol. My only problem/question is what would you tell your kids? Your parents? The womens parents?
Coach the truth. Fuck what they think of you, if someone outside of the relationship doesn’t accept it doesn’t mean something is wrong with it. That’s the problem Patrice was addressing. We so absorbed about what outsiders think about our fuckin happiness. Fuck em