I want to high five whoever writes the production notes for providing such gems as “Abby, shockingly not wearing a KKK robe and hood” “Melissa, who - spoiler! - opted not to stick up for her friend” “Nia’s maturity reaches new heights” “In true Melissa form, she quickly buys this bogus excuse” And finally “and Holly shuts. That. Down.”
The producers seem to have their favorites and it seems like he doesn’t like Abby. I also don’t like how they commented on Maddies acting in the episode before this one. They can be mean
I don't know why you like it, to me it just proves how fake the show is, the producers are writing the narrative. They're basically telling you how to think.
@@_moocow Depends on your definition of racist I suppose. I always thought it was about superiority and hatred. What Abby (supposedly) said, I would count as blunt, not hate.
Exactly. Sneaky like that money she laundered out of Australia or the fact that she’s a grown woman who bullies children with only a high school diploma. Then has the nerve to speak that way to Doctorate? She’s clearly the UNEDUCATED ONE!
i've never liked kira or jess and these production notes are a prime example of why. the way they talk about ava is literally disgusting. hate a mom all you want but straight up bullying a kid that has done nothing wrong is crossing a line.
“the sooner nia realizes she’s black the better” what the actual FUCK, i always knew abby was an horrible person but this made my jaw drop. the fact that people STILL wanna work with her is atrocious
@@N84Lyfethen on top of that isn’t Nia technically mixed ?? ( wasn’t her granddad white or something like that ?) and also I heard she told nia she didn’t want any tooties around 🙁💔Abby’s disgusting asf.
So Jessalyn and Kira were actually bullying Brynn in s5 wow. In 5 minutes of meeting her, Jessalyn was bashing her. What a shame! And Kira trash talking an 10 year old these women are disgusting.
@@skrss002 Ohh yeah! I remember that. You’re right, but in Season 5, she was fairly quiet unless it’s that one argument that Abby talked about sleeping with a married man and the other one I can’t remember. Kira was more vocal in Season 4 with the Kalani vs Maddie solos thing and the Season 6 drama with Ashlee and Brynn, which Ashlee got on everyone’s nerves, especially Jill and Jess…
Abby after her BLM tribute was called out by Camila and Nicaea. Abby apologized but never said a word about or to Nia. I also understand that Nia tried to visit her in the hospital, but Abby refused her visit. My thoughts: Abby saw Nia as a threat to her desired team. She tried during the first season to get rid of Nia and couldn’t. When Holly and Nia took the singing/acting away, Abby lost money.
Absolutely, especially not wanting her on the team. I think the biggest example of that is Abby’s season 8 team. They were all similar dancers that she supposedly picked out.
Abby was disgustingly low towards Nia and Holly. She’s disgusting. Holly should’ve been left the show after all of this but she chose to stay. It doesn’t make anything Abby says or does okay but holly is also responsible for not leaving.
@@cortezcristaaI just hate it when ppl act like Holly staying the longest is a flex when it’s not. Kelly & Christi managed to get out and Holly turned on them in Season 5 and claimed they were “playing victim” even tho they were the moms who stood up for her and Nia the most. Way more than she ever stuck up for them and their daughters tbh. Then, in that very same season, Holly was put in the same “Target” position that the Hylands & Lukasiaks were in before (even worse bc there was racism added into it) and she stayed…. She decided to stand behind a racist, abusive teacher, even against her own true friends… even when that racist, abusive teacher did NOTHING for her child and she basically had to do everything herself… I agree with OP that it’s partly on Holly. I hate it when ppl put her on a pedestal and act like she’s more than what she is or somehow better than everyone else. She was one of the better moms to come out of the show but she’s not above other humans... she herself said that. Holly isn’t perfect. She’s had her not-so-great moments on the show and she didn’t stand up for everyone nearly as much as ppl say. That specific accolade should mostly go to Christi. Abrasive & Blunt as she is, Christi has been shown standing up for nearly everyone (mostly speaking of the main cast here), even Abby.
@@cortezcristaashe had a 6 year contract and could’ve left after the zieglers did which was when the show was suppose to end but all of the remaining cast members wanted it go on so badly even though Abby didn’t and then they wondered why Abby didn’t have motivation.
I’ll never forget, In s6 Ashley made Kendall storm out..later that day, Abby talking with the girls said, u all are still here learning and Kendall isn’t, remember beating someone isn’t just leaving but staying is how u beat them at their own game..ironic considering how she treated nia, who was n the room when she said it
Exactly 🤔 and also I found out Nia won a title right before the first season as well ( with that waka waka solo, however on the show they changed some movements ) also I remember Maddie saying in her memoir book that Nia won a lot of competitions 🤔 really makes you think
Kira has always been regarded as one of the worst moms, if not the worst mom from the show. Her disgusting body shaming comments towards a CHILD, shows how miserable she must be. Maybe all those trips to jail didn’t do her good.
Did she actually end up in jail before? I knew she was in trouble with the law and had to go to court for it. But yeah kira really sucks. I would sleep with 1 eye open around kira that's for sure...😂
oh kira’s TRASH. all of her kids have different dads, she joined in on body shaming ava (calling her a praying mantis too), mocked jojo’s impediment (which she can claim all she wants that jojo didn’t care but it doesn’t matter), treated camryn like dog 💩, i know people that would absolutely SMOKE her and leave her with a bunch of medical bills if she said those things about their kids.
The girls making whole pros and cons list of having Jojo on the team is crazy! Imagine putting someone through that. I 100% believe that the producers made the lists and just made the girls read what was on them. I don’t believe any of them they had the heart to do something that mean and inappropriate.
@@Chelsea-nh4ujTwo things can be true at once. Think producers got involved on some level. That being said, was the meet and greet recent? It's a little disappointing that they made fun of JoJo.
Melissa apologised in her new videos and she said she regrets not standing up and right the next season she started taking action. Mackenzie even said her moms HER biggest supporter.. I don't get why your still bitter about that?
@@ParadisiacPaigewell but Melissa waited until kenz was out to act like she would defend her as she was a suck up to Abby for Maddie lol now that they made it she could care less.
"The sooner Nia realises she's Black"....Wow. Just wow... I gasped at that. I've had people say similar to me - except replace Black with the R word. Disgusting behaviour on Abby's part. I have to say, I'm amazed that Abby has gone this far in life, and in the show, with only being slapped by Kelly, and Cathy's handbag. Because holy crap.
Kira trying to prove a point when she said Ava scored higher because she was listed as an ALDC dancer but that would then prove that all the girls scored higher because they were ALDC dancers (obviously probably true but Kira wasnt thinking her comment would be used against her)
I’m surprised that ppl are surprised about Kira’s attitude and comments towards Ava and Brynn. Did we not see how she treated Sarah in s4? She was terrible and still is.
@@heatherward5053 what really did it for me was what she said when the elite and select moms went out to dinner. What Kira said to Sarah’s mom about Sarah was awful. Even Christi thought Kira’s comments were getting out of hand at that point.
@@taylorcala12 the way she cornered Sarah’s mom at that dinner should have her an ass-kicking. I don’t know I could have stopped myself if she said that crap about/to my kid. Mad respect to Sarah’s mom
I always thought that the girls reading the list of the pros and cons of JoJo was so vile. You don’t put a preteen girl through that on national television on top of all of the abuse that she and the other kids received on a daily basis.
the fact that abby has this mad house show going on is so mf ridiculous. people that wanna be involved with abby lee AFTER all of these racist accusations coming out about her should be ashamed of themselves. and the moms constantly bad mouthing brynn and ava is so foul to where ur mouth drops. them poor kids :/
@@Chelsea-nh4uji’m just saying it’s a shame that those adults on that show know exactly who and what abby is and support her by doing the new show with her. you’d think they’d know by now
I have a random video idea. Can you talk more into Gianna? I keep seeing everyone having mixed feelings for her on TikTok but I don’t know some people say she’s nice some people say she’s mean and it’s confusing my brain.
Well I mean Christi said Gia wasn't that nice and honestly that was enough for me to know she isn't a good person since Christi has been there since Chloe was two or three
I use to think, with all this abuse that’s surely gonna affect Nia in the future, why does holly stay. But I’ll never forget, In s6 Ashley made Kendall storm out and later that day, Abby talking with the girls said, u all are still here learning and Kendall isn’t, remember beating someone isn’t just leaving but staying is how u beat them at their own game. ABBY said that lol. Holly really was beating Abby at her own game the whole time lol.
God poor Nia. I hope she writes a book one day. She was so intelligent and emotionally mature. But she shouldn’t have had to be at such a young age. I love Nia. 💜 so courageous
I am so proud of the producers to write down that someone talked to abby about that murder comment!! Also Jess & Kira were talking so bad about a child and Abby’s racism is unexceptional Maddie complementing Kenzo for dancing trough her injury is kinda sweet although Kenzie shouldn’t have danced because it could make it worse
It’s rich for Abby to call someone else sneaky!! Holly should have rocked her for that one!! Melissa and Jill was disgusting for defending Abby It checks out they would think Ava would score higher by being listed as an ALDC dancer… they knew the competition results were skewed in their favor. The pros/cons list felt the same as having all the girls vote on Maddie/Chloe in season 3. It was another chance for her to have one child be ostracized by her teammates. Seeing the looks in their faces was heartbreaking!! The exact same thing happened to Nia during the week in season 5 that she’s got her music video AND when there were 2 trios assigned and Nia was the only one left out.
I seriously want to know what was going through Abby’s head to say those things to Nia. I couldn’t even think those things, let alone say them. TO A LITERAL CHILD.
I don't understand why they accepted Abby as being a narcissistic racist dance teacher.It's so disgusting.They should have done a large lawsuit and the judge should have sent her to 10 years of jail.She deserves it.
Just stopping in to say thank you for the consistency and hard work in the videos. Dance mom fandom is small and I hope these videos never stop cause I look forward to them!
did anybody else find it interesting that when the girls were critiquing JoJo that they didnt have in the notes Nia saying “you take opportunities from people who’ve been here longer?” sounds like producer influence to make Nia look mean since it’s conveniently hidden🤫. i had a weird feeling abt Nia saying this from when i first saw it
Who are Kira and Jess to talk about Brynn's dancing...lyk Brynn was the most advanced girl in season 5 better than anyone else she won miss TDA...PERIODT my opinion🤷🏾♀️
Abby’s Racism is disgusting and now knowing Kenzie had a foot injury these week. The constant bullying of Ava this was a sad episode. This racism of hers was so out of hand no one did anything! And Melissa and Jill following her for so long. Ugh I know been years but I’m glad the moms and daughters are all fine. I HATE Kalani was on her podcast I try to be a fan but no .. same with jojo I don’t follow that attention seaker. LEGIT ! Anyone who still contacts Abby is just as accountable of her constant harassment. Big Narcissistic baby still talks shit about them online but No Kalani yes go on her pod 💀
Jojo and Abby are now using each other to stay relevant. I liked Jojo better from her time on the show, and that was very little. To me, she has always come across as loud and obnoxious, just like Abby. Since growing up, we haven’t seen any music/dance/etc from her. Only super loud, attention-seeking TicTok about her relationships
Is that the ONLY time a note has been made that someone had to talk to Abby about something messed up she said? I mean, I've seen a lot of your videos, not all of them though, and I don't recall ever seeing this kind of note before. It's so absurd to me if that is truly the only time someone was noted to have to talk to Abby something she's said to a child. Considering every other horrible thing she's said to a child. I guess they drew the line at her comparing Nia to a murderer. At least someone finally drew the line somewhere. Wow, I never recall seeing that kind of note before. Just wow.
Those placements make no sense at all considering ava,kendall and maddie were all in the 11-12 age range meaning ava couldnt of placed 1st if maddie did and this is the first time ive heard of nia winning
The divisions may not necessarily be age divisions. There are divisions for different styles, like lyrical, contemporary, open, etc. Kendall lost to Ava and both did lyrical. Maddie did contemporary. Nia did open, I’m pretty sure. So you can win first in say, lyrical, but third overall if a jazz/another style routine places higher.
First of all what does that “the sooner she realizes she’s black” comment even mean!!!!!!! Wow this episode somehow has slipped my mind. I’m blocking her.
I for the life of me can not figure out what Broadway show Abby took Maddie to and got the inspiration for “the mannequin” I’m delving into the deep lore of Broadway shows in my brain but “this one stars a mannequin” is not a show I’m familiar with
This is when Dance Moms became pretty much unwatchable IMO. Abby had always been very problematic… but late season 4 / early season 5 … she became unbearably vile. I stopped watching right around this point in the series.
The pros and cons list was AWFUL. you’ve never seen them do that with anyone else but her. It must’ve been awful for Jojo to hear that. I don’t understand how “being loud” and “crazy” is a con for being on a DANCE team. I especially didn’t like Kendall and Nia’s cons.
I agree with Nia that Abby should not be her manager Abby wanted to sang different stlye of music that what nia wanted to sang she didn't care about what nia wanted what Abby wants and what thought was Best.
Kira, even though she is a doting mother to Kalani, and one of the worst mothers in terms of character, she is the typical, extremely right-wing, traditional rich mother, who is not correct at all, her criminal record speaks for itself, her comments about the The children's appearance and body was horrible, but karma doesn't fail because your daughter nowadays suffers from being overweight and is going through the same comments that her mother said!
@@liglotananaKira being right wing, rich and having a criminal record has nothing to do with anything lol what. You can be liberal, poor and no criminal record and still be an asshole. You clearly arent much of a peach yourself as youre here body shaming kalani who has nothing to do with what her mother said..years ago.. on a TV show, and since you hate these traits so much ill assume now youre liberal, poor and never participated in any criminal type behavior? No tickets? Never downloaded something illegally? Or watched an R rated movie under age? I highly doubt it lol. From someone who hates these moms so much you are so judgemental. Just say you hate successful white conservatives and move on. Dont shame an innocent young girl in an attempt to prove a very wrong narrative.
the moms are ridiculous. all they ever do is whine and complain. they are NEVER satisfied. if abby's there, they all talk about how her choreo is stale and how they need something new, etc but when abby isn't there then they cry and whine that she isn't doing her job and they act like they cant do anything without her. they get mad when she passes off the choreo to someone else but they still arent satisfied when she does the choreo herself. it's like stfu already
I don't know if I believe 100 percent in these production notes anymore. Some of the written side commentary from the producers seem too random and comical for it to be real.
Yeah agree, all the fandom adore her and go on about how educated she is. Meanwhile her daughter is in a dog costume. Jill, jess and kira get so much hate yet at least they care about there kids
@@N84Lyfe so was holly look at how she treated camryn. The reason purely because she was black. Camryn danced circles around nia and nia and camryn were the only two black dancers. Holly kicked off when she was on top of the pyramid. Or in season 4 demanding a solo yet her kid wad the worst on the team, if that was any other aldc kid or select kids mom kicking off she would complain. There were also times were she would say kalani or brynn didnt deserve solos yet again jelousy. If she actually put more attention on nia maybe she would of gotten more out of abby
Don't get me wrong dear, I like your channel and I know you put a lot of time and work into it, but these girls wouldn't be anywhere if not for Abby. A lot of the drama on the show, is just that, drama on the show. You still do great work, and keep it up! God bless you honey, and have a great evening! 😊❤🎉
What kind of twisted logic is this? So Abby provides an opportunity and all of her obnoxious and offensive behavior is excused? Touch grass, dear. You’re delusional.
Girl just stop. You’re blinded defense of Abby is just as ridiculous as Abby’s attitude. If Abby is the reason they are famous shouldn’t she be rolling in money as well? Instead she’s, bashing the girls and their mothers saying they owe her money. Please. She deserves NOTHING. Just like she always says. Until she can actually apologize to those girls then she doesn’t need to be thanked for anything besides training which they all have thanked her for.
I’m sorry, but that doesn’t justify Abby’s horrible abuse by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, the girls are famous and have done incredibly well, but they still have to carry the trauma of what they went through for years
I want to high five whoever writes the production notes for providing such gems as
“Abby, shockingly not wearing a KKK robe and hood”
“Melissa, who - spoiler! - opted not to stick up for her friend”
“Nia’s maturity reaches new heights”
“In true Melissa form, she quickly buys this bogus excuse”
And finally
“and Holly shuts. That. Down.”
Tysm for this comment lol I wouldn’t have noticed without you pointing it out and I was losing it 💀
Omg, yes! The sarcasm is amazing at times.
This is so good omg 😂💀
The producers seem to have their favorites and it seems like he doesn’t like Abby. I also don’t like how they commented on Maddies acting in the episode before this one. They can be mean
I don't know why you like it, to me it just proves how fake the show is, the producers are writing the narrative. They're basically telling you how to think.
i cannot help but laugh at the producers calling melissa "dependably awful" when she tries to defend abby for comparing nia to a murderer
Abby’s consistent racism is one of the main things I will never like her for!! She gets no sympathy from me.
Agreed 💯 percent
girl i see you everywhere lol respect!
Insensitive, rude, blunt yes, racist not so much.
"the sooner she realizes she's black, the better" is not a comment a non-racist person would make towards their own student
@@_moocow Depends on your definition of racist I suppose. I always thought it was about superiority and hatred. What Abby (supposedly) said, I would count as blunt, not hate.
Who the hell is Abby to call anyone uneducated or sneaky when those two characteristics are for sure her
Exactly. Sneaky like that money she laundered out of Australia or the fact that she’s a grown woman who bullies children with only a high school diploma. Then has the nerve to speak that way to Doctorate? She’s clearly the UNEDUCATED ONE!
i've never liked kira or jess and these production notes are a prime example of why. the way they talk about ava is literally disgusting. hate a mom all you want but straight up bullying a kid that has done nothing wrong is crossing a line.
And Brynn as well. They are truly the worst moms from the show.
Jill calls Matty b a punk and nobody cares lol.
@@chalkandcheese1868Most ppl dislike Jill so…
@@chalkandcheese1868how can you say no one cares? And aren’t you the same person constantly defending Jill?
@@N84Lyfe Humour is not your strong point is it?
“the sooner nia realizes she’s black the better” what the actual FUCK, i always knew abby was an horrible person but this made my jaw drop. the fact that people STILL wanna work with her is atrocious
I agree!!! What kind of parent would STILL take their kids to her?? It speaks volumes about their parenting and their character.
Exactly.
@@heatherward5053exactly
Fr I gasped at that comment. Abby is a disgusting person.
@@N84Lyfethen on top of that isn’t Nia technically mixed ?? ( wasn’t her granddad white or something like that ?) and also I heard she told nia she didn’t want any tooties around 🙁💔Abby’s disgusting asf.
So Jessalyn and Kira were actually bullying Brynn in s5 wow. In 5 minutes of meeting her, Jessalyn was bashing her. What a shame! And Kira trash talking an 10 year old these women are disgusting.
Jess is not surprising but Kira??
That actually shocked me.
@@RealJoseph123Kira bullying/attacking a kid shouldn't be surprising either
@@RealJoseph123 It wasn't that surprising considering how she spoke ab Sara reasons ( from the select team) in season 4
@@skrss002 Ohh yeah! I remember that. You’re right, but in Season 5, she was fairly quiet unless it’s that one argument that Abby talked about sleeping with a married man and the other one I can’t remember. Kira was more vocal in Season 4 with the Kalani vs Maddie solos thing and the Season 6 drama with Ashlee and Brynn, which Ashlee got on everyone’s nerves, especially Jill and Jess…
@@bunny.x._.mi1 In this Season, yes. But in other seasons, no. Refer to the comment above that I replied to a minute ago. ^
Abby after her BLM tribute was called out by Camila and Nicaea. Abby apologized but never said a word about or to Nia. I also understand that Nia tried to visit her in the hospital, but Abby refused her visit. My thoughts: Abby saw Nia as a threat to her desired team. She tried during the first season to get rid of Nia and couldn’t. When Holly and Nia took the singing/acting away, Abby lost money.
Absolutely, especially not wanting her on the team. I think the biggest example of that is Abby’s season 8 team. They were all similar dancers that she supposedly picked out.
Abby was disgustingly low towards Nia and Holly. She’s disgusting. Holly should’ve been left the show after all of this but she chose to stay. It doesn’t make anything Abby says or does okay but holly is also responsible for not leaving.
she had a seven year contract and couldn’t leave. also nia wanted to be there
@@cortezcristaaI just hate it when ppl act like Holly staying the longest is a flex when it’s not. Kelly & Christi managed to get out and Holly turned on them in Season 5 and claimed they were “playing victim” even tho they were the moms who stood up for her and Nia the most. Way more than she ever stuck up for them and their daughters tbh. Then, in that very same season, Holly was put in the same “Target” position that the Hylands & Lukasiaks were in before (even worse bc there was racism added into it) and she stayed…. She decided to stand behind a racist, abusive teacher, even against her own true friends… even when that racist, abusive teacher did NOTHING for her child and she basically had to do everything herself…
I agree with OP that it’s partly on Holly. I hate it when ppl put her on a pedestal and act like she’s more than what she is or somehow better than everyone else. She was one of the better moms to come out of the show but she’s not above other humans... she herself said that. Holly isn’t perfect. She’s had her not-so-great moments on the show and she didn’t stand up for everyone nearly as much as ppl say. That specific accolade should mostly go to Christi. Abrasive & Blunt as she is, Christi has been shown standing up for nearly everyone (mostly speaking of the main cast here), even Abby.
@@cortezcristaashe had a 6 year contract and could’ve left after the zieglers did which was when the show was suppose to end but all of the remaining cast members wanted it go on so badly even though Abby didn’t and then they wondered why Abby didn’t have motivation.
I’ll never forget, In s6 Ashley made Kendall storm out..later that day, Abby talking with the girls said, u all are still here learning and Kendall isn’t, remember beating someone isn’t just leaving but staying is how u beat them at their own game..ironic considering how she treated nia, who was n the room when she said it
@@corimoon3360 So true.
Interesting that Nia won first in her division but they didn’t even bother to show it. I wonder how many other times they did that
they have done it to every last one of the kids (even from other teams, studios, or auditions) for drama which sucks
Exactly 🤔 and also I found out Nia won a title right before the first season as well ( with that waka waka solo, however on the show they changed some movements ) also I remember Maddie saying in her memoir book that Nia won a lot of competitions 🤔 really makes you think
Kira has always been regarded as one of the worst moms, if not the worst mom from the show. Her disgusting body shaming comments towards a CHILD, shows how miserable she must be. Maybe all those trips to jail didn’t do her good.
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AN I OOP 💀⛓️
Did she actually end up in jail before? I knew she was in trouble with the law and had to go to court for it. But yeah kira really sucks. I would sleep with 1 eye open around kira that's for sure...😂
oh kira’s TRASH. all of her kids have different dads, she joined in on body shaming ava (calling her a praying mantis too), mocked jojo’s impediment (which she can claim all she wants that jojo didn’t care but it doesn’t matter), treated camryn like dog 💩, i know people that would absolutely SMOKE her and leave her with a bunch of medical bills if she said those things about their kids.
LMAO the shade I love it 💀
The girls making whole pros and cons list of having Jojo on the team is crazy! Imagine putting someone through that. I 100% believe that the producers made the lists and just made the girls read what was on them. I don’t believe any of them they had the heart to do something that mean and inappropriate.
Abby should of been on the pros and cons list on Abbey
Maddie,kalani,kendall and kenzie all made fun of her in a meet and greet so yes they do
@@Chelsea-nh4ujTwo things can be true at once. Think producers got involved on some level.
That being said, was the meet and greet recent? It's a little disappointing that they made fun of JoJo.
@@GudetamaSit its the time that nia went to comfort her and why both girls were excluded by abby
@@GudetamaSitthe meet & greet was like years ago 😭 it was on the show, when they went to australia without nia & jojo
Jill’s body shaming of Ava doesn’t get as talked about as Kira’s does but it should. She’s said other body shaming comments in s4 e16.
Trying to push Mackenzie to dance with an injury and Melissa not standing up for her is so typical.
Melissa apologised in her new videos and she said she regrets not standing up and right the next season she started taking action. Mackenzie even said her moms HER biggest supporter.. I don't get why your still bitter about that?
@@ParadisiacPaigewell but Melissa waited until kenz was out to act like she would defend her as she was a suck up to Abby for Maddie lol now that they made it she could care less.
@@ParadisiacPaigekeywords in her new videos this is a recap of the show genius
4:38 the way the production notes are formatted never fail to make my jaw drop. They came for her ass 😭
"The sooner Nia realises she's Black"....Wow. Just wow... I gasped at that. I've had people say similar to me - except replace Black with the R word. Disgusting behaviour on Abby's part.
I have to say, I'm amazed that Abby has gone this far in life, and in the show, with only being slapped by Kelly, and Cathy's handbag. Because holy crap.
YEA!!! I know it doesn’t make me sound like a sane person either, but I would have had to knock her out if she spoke to my daughter that way
The R word?
@@bmwpnw slur for people with disabilities.
@@bmwpnw maybe “retarded”?? It’s only foul “R” word I can think of
Kira trying to prove a point when she said Ava scored higher because she was listed as an ALDC dancer but that would then prove that all the girls scored higher because they were ALDC dancers (obviously probably true but Kira wasnt thinking her comment would be used against her)
I agree 100%!!! Do we need MORE proof the competitions were fake as hell?? We already knew, we just keep getting more and more confirmations
"[Nia's grandfather] only has a few days left and he only seems to respond to her voice now" im crying
I’m surprised that ppl are surprised about Kira’s attitude and comments towards Ava and Brynn. Did we not see how she treated Sarah in s4? She was terrible and still is.
And she said that mess to Sarah’s face!!! She was awful!!
@@heatherward5053 what really did it for me was what she said when the elite and select moms went out to dinner. What Kira said to Sarah’s mom about Sarah was awful. Even Christi thought Kira’s comments were getting out of hand at that point.
@@taylorcala12 the way she cornered Sarah’s mom at that dinner should have her an ass-kicking. I don’t know I could have stopped myself if she said that crap about/to my kid. Mad respect to Sarah’s mom
Kira's comment about how Ava must be starving was and is absolutely VILE AND UNCALLED FOR
I always thought that the girls reading the list of the pros and cons of JoJo was so vile. You don’t put a preteen girl through that on national television on top of all of the abuse that she and the other kids received on a daily basis.
Abby's open racism being accepted as okay is so revolting.
I will never not say that the way they treated brynn and her mom was disgusting. They all need to be held accountable for that shitty behavior
The RACISM towards Holly and Nia is DISGUSTING HOW DARE she treats them like that🤬
The girls were more mature then their mothers I love that they didn’t bully Ava.
The girls 😭😭*
@@marilyn1984 thank you 🙌🏾💀
They were always so sweet and supportive
the fact that abby has this mad house show going on is so mf ridiculous. people that wanna be involved with abby lee AFTER all of these racist accusations coming out about her should be ashamed of themselves. and the moms constantly bad mouthing brynn and ava is so foul to where ur mouth drops. them poor kids :/
Madhouse is not dance moms they are adults 18-23. Plus there all amazing
What about poor little Matty b?
@@Chelsea-nh4uji’m just saying it’s a shame that those adults on that show know exactly who and what abby is and support her by doing the new show with her. you’d think they’d know by now
Whoever wrote these notes was out for BLOOD
And peoplw say abby isnt racist. Right sureeee isnt racist.
Brynn, reigning TDA mini best dancer, needs a reality show and Abby Lee to be successful… sure Jan
damn. brynn was bullied ever since season 5
The amount of racism from Abby this episode is disturbing. I still can’t believe Holly stayed all 7 seasons and let Nia go through that
Right she could’ve left after season 6 but she didn’t and I will never understand that ..
i cannot even with kira, she's such a horrible mum
I have a random video idea. Can you talk more into Gianna? I keep seeing everyone having mixed feelings for her on TikTok but I don’t know some people say she’s nice some people say she’s mean and it’s confusing my brain.
I think there is already a video on this on the channel, if I remember correctly it's "is this the most underrated cast member"
Well I mean Christi said Gia wasn't that nice and honestly that was enough for me to know she isn't a good person since Christi has been there since Chloe was two or three
@@rachelefletcher1352 i know that exists but that was before she had the production notes so now we have more information
@@hrts4dlm yeah i heard its just driving me nuts when i get nice Gia and mean Gia on my fyp and stuff
Gianna was an accomplice to every horrible thing Abby did to those girls.
Abby and Melissa can say what they want but Mannequin was for sure an excuse to do a dance competition version of Chandelier.....
i actually dont rlly think so… the only thing that was similar was the outfit bc it was just a tan leotard..
I wish they would’ve shown Kira & Jess sticking up for Nia in the dressing room .
we stan mackzboss for exposing the truth about abby. ❤️ how anyone still supports that woman is beyond me.
I knew Abby was racist but i NEVER knew about the comment said about Nia like its the first time one of her comments made me gasp out loud
I use to think, with all this abuse that’s surely gonna affect Nia in the future, why does holly stay. But I’ll never forget, In s6 Ashley made Kendall storm out and later that day, Abby talking with the girls said, u all are still here learning and Kendall isn’t, remember beating someone isn’t just leaving but staying is how u beat them at their own game. ABBY said that lol. Holly really was beating Abby at her own game the whole time lol.
God poor Nia. I hope she writes a book one day. She was so intelligent and emotionally mature. But she shouldn’t have had to be at such a young age. I love Nia. 💜 so courageous
I am so proud of the producers to write down that someone talked to abby about that murder comment!!
Also Jess & Kira were talking so bad about a child and Abby’s racism is unexceptional
Maddie complementing Kenzo for dancing trough her injury is kinda sweet although Kenzie shouldn’t have danced because it could make it worse
That is so sad to hear that Holly had to deal with silly dance moms drama while Nia's grandfather was dying :'O
Jill only got more annoying to me in the later seasons. This was the start of the it. l
She was still annoying 2 years ago in Say Yes to the Dress.
@@sita9071i just watched that clip last night 😭💀
@@sita9071Not really in that episode more tone down. She was way more annoying in later seasons then that episode
Season 6 and 7 got unbearable for me. Part of the reason was how Jill acted towards other dancers
@@haileyparsons3844 Fair enough. She was less annoying in it, but still annoying.
It’s rich for Abby to call someone else sneaky!! Holly should have rocked her for that one!! Melissa and Jill was disgusting for defending Abby
It checks out they would think Ava would score higher by being listed as an ALDC dancer… they knew the competition results were skewed in their favor.
The pros/cons list felt the same as having all the girls vote on Maddie/Chloe in season 3. It was another chance for her to have one child be ostracized by her teammates. Seeing the looks in their faces was heartbreaking!! The exact same thing happened to Nia during the week in season 5 that she’s got her music video AND when there were 2 trios assigned and Nia was the only one left out.
"Melissa, dependably awful" - god I love the producers for calling Melissa out on being a lying, stealing, scheming snake of a human being.
I seriously want to know what was going through Abby’s head to say those things to Nia. I couldn’t even think those things, let alone say them. TO A LITERAL CHILD.
Wow Brynn must be really lazy to have won Mini Best Dancer at The Dance Awards prior to filming this show.
I don't understand why they accepted Abby as being a narcissistic racist dance teacher.It's so disgusting.They should have done a large lawsuit and the judge should have sent her to 10 years of jail.She deserves it.
Just stopping in to say thank you for the consistency and hard work in the videos. Dance mom fandom is small and I hope these videos never stop cause I look forward to them!
did anybody else find it interesting that when the girls were critiquing JoJo that they didnt have in the notes Nia saying “you take opportunities from people who’ve been here longer?” sounds like producer influence to make Nia look mean since it’s conveniently hidden🤫. i had a weird feeling abt Nia saying this from when i first saw it
Who are Kira and Jess to talk about Brynn's dancing...lyk Brynn was the most advanced girl in season 5 better than anyone else she won miss TDA...PERIODT my opinion🤷🏾♀️
Omg abbys hate towards Nia is so uncalled for
I truly believe the remake was her starving for attention!
I agree
Abby’s Racism is disgusting and now knowing Kenzie had a foot injury these week. The constant bullying of Ava this was a sad episode. This racism of hers was so out of hand no one did anything! And Melissa and Jill following her for so long. Ugh I know been years but I’m glad the moms and daughters are all fine. I HATE Kalani was on her podcast I try to be a fan but no .. same with jojo I don’t follow that attention seaker. LEGIT ! Anyone who still contacts Abby is just as accountable of her constant harassment. Big Narcissistic baby still talks shit about them online but No Kalani yes go on her pod 💀
Jojo and Abby are now using each other to stay relevant. I liked Jojo better from her time on the show, and that was very little. To me, she has always come across as loud and obnoxious, just like Abby. Since growing up, we haven’t seen any music/dance/etc from her. Only super loud, attention-seeking TicTok about her relationships
It doesn't surprise me that Kalani was on the podcast. She was one of Abbys favorites
I LOVE MADDIE AND MACKENZIE
Is that the ONLY time a note has been made that someone had to talk to Abby about something messed up she said? I mean, I've seen a lot of your videos, not all of them though, and I don't recall ever seeing this kind of note before. It's so absurd to me if that is truly the only time someone was noted to have to talk to Abby something she's said to a child. Considering every other horrible thing she's said to a child. I guess they drew the line at her comparing Nia to a murderer. At least someone finally drew the line somewhere. Wow, I never recall seeing that kind of note before. Just wow.
Those placements make no sense at all considering ava,kendall and maddie were all in the 11-12 age range meaning ava couldnt of placed 1st if maddie did and this is the first time ive heard of nia winning
Fake competitions girl
The divisions may not necessarily be age divisions. There are divisions for different styles, like lyrical, contemporary, open, etc. Kendall lost to Ava and both did lyrical. Maddie did contemporary. Nia did open, I’m pretty sure. So you can win first in say, lyrical, but third overall if a jazz/another style routine places higher.
@@yanaji7508 I know but the results say 11-12 and the production notes don't always say all the results
First of all what does that “the sooner she realizes she’s black” comment even mean!!!!!!! Wow this episode somehow has slipped my mind. I’m blocking her.
Imagine being so bothered and disrespectful to a 10 (idk how old Brynn was at the time) year old…
She was 11
These mothers are viscious, period. Abby once called them vultures who scare off other mothers and clients and for once I agree with her.
Why is Jill so annoying!!!!
My favourite channel
When Abby realizes she is a racist the better lol
I for the life of me can not figure out what Broadway show Abby took Maddie to and got the inspiration for “the mannequin” I’m delving into the deep lore of Broadway shows in my brain but “this one stars a mannequin” is not a show I’m familiar with
man this series has made me realize that all the core moms this season except for holly are just as bad as abby. all they do is make fun of children.
Can you make a video about the girls friendships with each other, including Brynn and others from older seasons
Let’s dance
Pls do more of this❤
This is when Dance Moms became pretty much unwatchable IMO. Abby had always been very problematic… but late season 4 / early season 5 … she became unbearably vile. I stopped watching right around this point in the series.
Some people think Kira is the best mom yes she’s one of the worst moms there
once agian Kira, Jill, and Jess are bullying children
Even though abby has been really tude to the girls its cute to see her holding a baby
the fact that the producers actually call abby 'pure evil'.....
The pros and cons list was AWFUL. you’ve never seen them do that with anyone else but her. It must’ve been awful for Jojo to hear that. I don’t understand how “being loud” and “crazy” is a con for being on a DANCE team. I especially didn’t like Kendall and Nia’s cons.
Do you know if electricity actually got disqualified or did it just not place?
I agree with Nia that Abby should not be her manager Abby wanted to sang different stlye of music that what nia wanted to sang she didn't care about what nia wanted what Abby wants and what thought was Best.
Did Kendall place in her division I heard she got 2nd with a technique award
Kira, even though she is a doting mother to Kalani, and one of the worst mothers in terms of character, she is the typical, extremely right-wing, traditional rich mother, who is not correct at all, her criminal record speaks for itself, her comments about the The children's appearance and body was horrible, but karma doesn't fail because your daughter nowadays suffers from being overweight and is going through the same comments that her mother said!
I think you body shaming kalani is doing nothing but putting yourself on her level
@@N84Lyfeagreed!
wtf is kalani catching strays for 😭 you can call out kira without bodyshaming.. u just as bad as her
@@murderjai Kalani is a disgusting Trump, just not worse than Kendall
@@liglotananaKira being right wing, rich and having a criminal record has nothing to do with anything lol what. You can be liberal, poor and no criminal record and still be an asshole. You clearly arent much of a peach yourself as youre here body shaming kalani who has nothing to do with what her mother said..years ago.. on a TV show, and since you hate these traits so much ill assume now youre liberal, poor and never participated in any criminal type behavior? No tickets? Never downloaded something illegally? Or watched an R rated movie under age? I highly doubt it lol. From someone who hates these moms so much you are so judgemental. Just say you hate successful white conservatives and move on. Dont shame an innocent young girl in an attempt to prove a very wrong narrative.
God bless ❤.
Jill and Kira always made such nasty comments about people especially kids.
I wish you wouldn’t have the sad music in the background..it’s depressing
dance called?
"What do you think of Abby's revolting behaviour this week", well it seems like you're telling us how to think.
It was revolting and if you don’t like the channel why are you still here?
how do you block a youtuber bc im genuinely tired of seeing *that* girl
Which one I think I may know?
Man I hate Kira and kalani
Why kalani?
I’ll
Nia was always complaining that other dancers “took opportunities from people that had been there longer” - or, Nia you were the weakest dancer there.
Um no, nia worked damn hard and you could see her improvement through the seasons
Girl no nia worked her ass off everyday and she improved and she never regressesd like Kendall Chloe and kalani so idk what you talking about 😂
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the moms are ridiculous. all they ever do is whine and complain. they are NEVER satisfied. if abby's there, they all talk about how her choreo is stale and how they need something new, etc but when abby isn't there then they cry and whine that she isn't doing her job and they act like they cant do anything without her. they get mad when she passes off the choreo to someone else but they still arent satisfied when she does the choreo herself. it's like stfu already
It's almost like they're on a reality show or something.
I don't know if I believe 100 percent in these production notes anymore. Some of the written side commentary from the producers seem too random and comical for it to be real.
Who cares about the catering?…grow up
I'm tired of hearing about poor Nia,look what Chloe went through and the girls picking on JoJo....Holly should of left but she stayed...
Are you kidding?
Contracts…dude. Contracts. Both Chloe and nia had it worse. But Chloe was able to leave because Abby kicked her out of the studio in season 4
Yeah agree, all the fandom adore her and go on about how educated she is. Meanwhile her daughter is in a dog costume. Jill, jess and kira get so much hate yet at least they care about there kids
@@Chelsea-nh4ujbecause they were disgusting towards children
@@N84Lyfe so was holly look at how she treated camryn. The reason purely because she was black. Camryn danced circles around nia and nia and camryn were the only two black dancers. Holly kicked off when she was on top of the pyramid. Or in season 4 demanding a solo yet her kid wad the worst on the team, if that was any other aldc kid or select kids mom kicking off she would complain. There were also times were she would say kalani or brynn didnt deserve solos yet again jelousy. If she actually put more attention on nia maybe she would of gotten more out of abby
Don't get me wrong dear, I like your channel and I know you put a lot of time and work into it, but these girls wouldn't be anywhere if not for Abby. A lot of the drama on the show, is just that, drama on the show. You still do great work, and keep it up! God bless you honey, and have a great evening! 😊❤🎉
It wasn't abby that made them famous it was the show and the show also made abby famous aswell.
What kind of twisted logic is this? So Abby provides an opportunity and all of her obnoxious and offensive behavior is excused? Touch grass, dear. You’re delusional.
Girl just stop. You’re blinded defense of Abby is just as ridiculous as Abby’s attitude. If Abby is the reason they are famous shouldn’t she be rolling in money as well? Instead she’s, bashing the girls and their mothers saying they owe her money. Please. She deserves NOTHING. Just like she always says. Until she can actually apologize to those girls then she doesn’t need to be thanked for anything besides training which they all have thanked her for.
I’m sorry, but that doesn’t justify Abby’s horrible abuse by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, the girls are famous and have done incredibly well, but they still have to carry the trauma of what they went through for years
@@bunny.x._.mi1Abby made the show famous, no Abby no show, it's that simple.