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Rowdy 400+whp BIG TURBO Mazdaspeed 3 - POV Pulls & Acceleration @ 26 PSI
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2021
- In this video we take the Mazdaspeed 3 out for some POV runs down in Mexico with the BNR S5 turbo running about 26 psi of peak boost, and 12 degrees of ignition advance at 6000 rpm. The rev limit is currently set to 7000 rpm but I do intend on eventually raising it higher. At this stage of tuning, in order to keep knock under control, I'm mixing in 2 gallons of pure methanol with 94 octane pump gas in the main tank and adjusting for it in the tune. As always 1st and 2nd gear are a limiting factor in this car due to being front wheel drive, having short gen 1 gearing, and me being a complete amateur driver. That being said, 3rd gear and up are just asking for more power. This car isn't perfect, but it gets the adrenaline pumping more often than not. Enjoy the video! Please like, share, and subscribe :)
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Mods in this video:
1. Bnr S5 Turbo w/ Tial MVR 44mm Ewg
2. DM PCV Plate w/ Dual Vented Cans
3. Cobb Accessport V3 (self tuned)
4. Aeromotive 325 LPH Fuel Pump
5. Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R
6. Stratified Guardian Angel V3
7. Full Race Exhaust Manifold
8. Ngk One Step Colder Plugs
9. 6th Port Aux Fuel Injection
10. Corksport Intake Manifold
11. CS Stage 2 Rear Motor Mount
12. DM Trans side Motor Mount
13. DM Pass side Motor Mount
14. Crushed In-Tank Regulator
15. Custom Radiator Ducting
16. Autotech HPFP Internals
17. Eibach Lowering Springs
18. Corksport Injector Seals
19. DM Egr Delete/Block Off
20. Cpe Catless Downpipe
21. Cfm Oil Breather Cap
22. Jbr Raider's Air Damn
23. Turbosmart OPR T40
24. MST Suzuka Wheels
25. Koni Yellow Shocks
26. FP Red Inline Filter
27. Gen 2 Valve Cover
28. CS 3.5 Inch Intake
29. Cobb 3 Port Ebcs
30. Fidanza Flywheel
31. Jbr Under Route
32. Cobb Xle Bpv
33. AEM Gauges
34. Cnt Catback
35. Built Engine
36. Tr8 Fmic
37. Wot Box
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This video couldn't have been better man. Just nonstop flooring it and awesome pulls. What a joy to watch and listen to!
Thanks man glad u enjoyed it! More to come!
So glad to see this speed up and running again. You guys have been a major help to me when it came to ducting (we talked on IG lol)
Thanks man, glad to hear that :)
Thanks for the pov video man and it looks like it rips! Am doing a built speed 6 with a gtx3576r as we speak lol cm725 clutch and full pi. Aiming for 500+ so can't wait to be up and going like you guys! The EWG sounded great too 😁👍
Thanks brother! That sounds like it's going to be a blast! I love the Speed 6's. Sometimes I want to get my hands on one for the awd lol
This mix was toooo fire🔥🔥🔥
I can’t wait to get mine on the road 🔥🙌🏽
I know the feeling 😄
legit went to rewatch some of your older videos today since i needed my wannabe tuners fix, keep up the content
Hahaha that's awesome!
I like this car, and I like you. Keep it up
Thank you 😊
Nice men!!
I just finished my gas map with dramatuned and I am delighted. thanks for sharing your progress and upload more content! : D greetings from Mexico.
Also tuned by Erik!
Thanks man! Happy to hear you're enjoying it :)
EPICNESS
HOLY WASTEGATE CHATTER !
love that
That wastegate flutter is pretty rad for sure!
Looking good! I miss my speed :( got the dreaded vvt rattle. Got all the parts already just waiting for timing tool, going to use your timing video for a reference when I do it
Right on man, it's not too hard, just gotta take your time
Wait what is the vvt rattle?? I think I might have that
@@connorwolszczenski9124 when the engine is cold and you start it you will hear a rattle, from the chain hitting the valve cover. the vvt actuator causes it because it can't hold oil pressure so the chain stretches
@@connorwolszczenski9124 are you new to this platform?
There's no mark on the gear and that's uncommon like everything else with these cars hahaha. 156k original turbo and motor a few bolts 👍 Gen 1
This got recommended to me, I didn't know you had a RUclips, ive been following your insta since 2019 I think since you started following me actually 😅 anyways congrats dude this is awesome!
Haha that's awesome! Thanks a lot :)
Nice bro! Love the content always.
Thanks brother !
Thing's hauling bro!
Sick ride bro 😉
Thanks brother!
@@WannabeTuners👍
Thanks for sharing more progress! It's so fun to watch and follow along.
Question: You've mentioned a time or two that a gen 2 transmission has better gearing in 1st and 2nd. Is a transmission swap a straight forward bolt on process?
For my goals it may be better, but short gears can also be beneficial in things like auto cross. But in terms of maintaining traction from lower speeds, having the longer gearing will make it easier to put the power down. But yeah the gen 1 and gen 2 transmissions are interchangeable and bolt right up!
I don’t have a speed but I have an 07 Mazda 3 hatchback with a 2010 Mazda 6 engine dropped into it that I want to do all sorts of work to, just got it painted
thanks for posing your mod list
Absolutely!
Do big turbos loose that low end torque pull? I'm thinking of going with a bnr s1 or s2 and still debating , just for daily nothing crazy.
Always enjoy these pov videos of Mazdaspeeds 😺
The bigger the turbo, the laggier it is. However it makes more power up top, so it favors higher revs. In my opinion with an S1, S2, or S3, you won't have issues with response like I do with the S5.
@@WannabeTuners Rev It!
Great content in your videos… I wish you guys were in NYC… Lol!
Thanks man!
You AFRs are rather rich for a modern engine have you tried to lean it out a bit to see if it makes more power? Have you got plans to dyno it again?
I’m not familiar with a lot of mazdas, but love the look of the speed3. How reliable would you say the car is when pushing 400hp? What would be a good reliable power range without going into the motor and reenforcing the internals? Looking to build one up that isn’t crazy in power but enough to have fun in
300 whp/300 lbft with a good tune and a good amount of octane is super safe. But that doesn't stop people from pushing these engines in stock form to 400+ whp. They can be very reliable at 400 whp as long as there is a lot of octane to keep detonation under control, and it is running a good safe tune :)
I’m looking at getting a used one, really nice only problem is there’s a code for the shutter valve. It’s intermittent though, and sometimes comes on. Since it’s intermittent could it just need a new solenoid or check for electrical wiring?
It could be the solenoid for the intake runner flaps. You can check the wiring to the solenoid and connector, and check for free movement of the flaps by pressing in the lever. If I'm not mistaken it's located to the drivers side of the intake manifold.
Awesome man
I'm just waiting for my Full Race Mani to come up so I can install everything for my BNR S4 setup. Wondering how does you idling sounds like, I've heard other Speeds with the Full Race and they get a deep rumble at idle but the Evo sound revving the engine, weird for an equal length manifold haha Not sure if that's really how it sounds or the other guys coud possibly had something else changing the sound
I think the runner on cylinder 4 might actually be slightly shorter, which may cause the unique sound. I could be wrong though. It still flows very well and smoothly.
@@WannabeTuners Damn that makes me happy haha I loved how it sounded in the videos I found. Already got the mani so I just need couple more things and that'd be it. Thanks for replying back man 🤙🏻
Hey man I see you are using a fidanza flywheel. What kind of clutch are you using with it? I bought a spec clutch for mine but it didn't bolt up to the fidanza flywheel so I just ended up using a stock luk clutch to get the car back on the road...
I'm actually using exactly that. An OEM clutch replacement paired to the Fidanza Flywheel. I'm sure as the clutch wears out it may start to slip. I'll have to upgrade the clutch when that happens lol
Hey bro great video, question. When I start to make more power let's say fbo from stock should I upgrade my motor mounts or are the oem plenty good?
I would upgrade the motor mounts for sure. The Damond Motorsports mounts are some of the best. The OEM motor mounts are way too soft.
Damond trilogy all the way. Once you get the center mount on wheel hop is gone. OEM is going to take a big old 💩💩💩💩 all over your motor. They are solid mounts but I recommend putting some loctight on the stud. My pass mount straight came off and was rubbing on the side of my timing cover. Just realize it's a way different ride. The mounts break in somewhat after awhile.
I got the same exact wheels 💪🏾
Oh nice! MST Suzuka's?
hello great episodes
maybe you'd be interested in a recording of how you tune or how you did it, I'd love to see it
This is something I have been thinking about doing for a long time. Thanks for reminding me!
Do you have a video of the install of the fail safe. Like you wiring it up and everything
Yep it should all be in this video here: ruclips.net/video/jgSVFTp0GRQ/видео.html
Ughhh I can’t wait until I can drive mine!! I bought one and so far it has been in the shop longer than I got to even drive it. Turns out I need a whole new engine 😡
Might as well go forged :)
Wish I had the money for all that. Car should be fine after I get jdm engine and fmic. Then it’ll be fully bolted and basically brand new. Hopefully I can get it done by the beginning of spring.
I really like your Mazdaspeed. It’s quite nifty
@@Mrhandsome25659 That sounds like a good plan!
where did you get your oil ca breather from ?i need one for my speed6
I ordered mine from Speed Performance a while back but I'm not sure if they still sell them. You might have to give them a call. I had to switch to a Gen 2 valve cover to make it work as I don't think there is a reliable breather cap option for the Gen 1 valve cover. It looks like they can be bought here: www.c-f-m.com/performanceparts/pc/CFM-Baffled-Billet-Valve-Cover-Breather-Kit-for-2010-13-MazdaSpeed3-760p6532.htm
Awesome Car. Where you live in Chinada, anyway?
I'm in the Greater Toronto Area aka the GTA. What a world eh?
Has anyone told you that you talk like Jim Carrey? Pretty funny, nice work on the car
Thanks man, yeah I've gotten that a lot before. I used to watch all his movies as a kid, so some of that programming is still with me haha
@@WannabeTuners same here, i would watch Ace Ventura on repeat on my vcr
@@CornerOfTheOval 🤣
What tow hook plate do you have? I didn’t see it on the mod list. I like how close it is to the bumper.
It's a CPE Towplate license plate holder for the GEN 1: cp-e.com/shop/product/mazda3-mazdaspeed3-gen-1towplate/
@@WannabeTuners great thanks!
Hey brother are you still running Gen2 Eibach springs or did you switch to Gen1s Eibachs? Looks like it sits a bit higher compared to one of your earlier videos.
I'm still running the Gen 2 Eibach springs. The rear sits higher because of the Airlift 1000 air bladders that I have within the coil springs.
@@WannabeTuners thanks for the quick reply. I'm running swift with Konis but there a bit too stiff for these Toronto streets. I'm looking to swap them out and get Eibachs, and keep the Swift's for the track. How would you say the ride quality is?
Bro that's hilarious we go to the same area to test our speeds. That's near Heartland if I'm not mistaken
@@youcantstopthetruth LOL I once lived in that area so I know about those roads. It's quick and easy instead of having to drive out too far. The ride with the Eibachs is definitely stiffer than stock but still comfortable. I like them because they don't lower the ride height too much, which is great for the street. When it comes to Toronto roads, I don't think there's much we can do lol
In the mod list ..
Built motor alllll the way at the bottom
Put that up top
Motor work is the final frontier and is most impressive
I was trying to have the list go in order from longest to shortest for description cosmetics lol
Do you recommend filling in the holes when doing the VTCS delete? If so what do you recommend filling with?
I remember reading about people doing VTCS deletes on the old forum, but for the life of me I can't remember what they used to fill those holes. IMO I think it's a much better idea to just upgrade to a better flowing intake manifold.
@@WannabeTuners Fair enough, I'm leaning towards the same thing as no one can give a straight answer on the discord either. Going to give the valves a clean and leave it at that. Thanks!
@@morrissey240 Anytime brother
hey man why short shift? youve got valve train right? it also seems like youre falling completely out of boost on every shift and that turbo doesnt seem to come on line "quickly". Car sounds great and is definitely making power but you should rev it out proper like. Stay in that power as long as you can then next gear hopefully your high enough in the rpms to get that turbo to light reasonably well.
you ever consider a slightly smaller turbo and make like 3psi more? make same power but from 4-7500 vs now it seems like power is 5k-to when you shift at 6500.
I currently have the rev limiter on the WOT box set to 7k rpm. I'll probably bring it up to a max of 7500 rpm at some point because I only have Supertech 55lb valve springs. Other than that the head is stock. As for the lagginess of this turbo, there's no shortage of it. Especially because I have a hard time keeping my foot out of it in the first two gears, the tires will break loose and spin, causing the engine to bog in the next gear. I'm also learning about ways of getting bigger turbos to spool faster by retarding the ignition timing during the mid load regions of the timing map. I may try this and see if it helps with transient response from the turbo.
@@WannabeTuners pulling timing to aid with spool is a very old trick. Be careful because I’m sure you know but not enough ignition…your exhaust valves will be feeling the pain. You did the super tech valve train now I remember. I’m sorry about that. It’s hella expensive and the crower ”cheap” kit provides much more spring seat pressure. Too bad. I’d maybe keep limiter around 7200 and just work on getting the turbo to light. Transient response is something you do not have any of right now. It will blow your mind once you do. Nothing better then a 3-4 shift and watching the AP go from 26psi, shift, throttle, 26psi again like nothing happened. That’s where the fun comes in.
In terms of managing traction this can be done within the tune. Pulse the ebcs with the tps so you have boost by throttle. Can make anywhere from 10-22psi just depending on how much throttle I give. All within one gear. Your setup will never do that. Seems like it just hits you hard or does absolutely nothing.
@@BuildinProgress Oh yeah I won't be pulling too much timing. I'll start with 0 degrees between 1.25 to 1.8 load or so, depending on the load curve during a pull, and then just smooth and interpolate values out. Hopefully it yields fruitful results. In regards to rev limits one of the guys who has the same head work as me was tuned by Justin at Freektune and he's revving out to 7800 rpm, so I should be ok at 7500 rpm. I know Nishan revs stock heads out to 7300 rpm, he's mentioned it in several of his videos. I probably won't go more than 7500 rpm though because with the Gen 1 ECU, we can't really tune past that as the look up tables pretty much max out at that point, so if I do rev higher it'll target the same values that it did at 7500. That's good though how there's a less expensive option with more seat pressure. The only real reason for me to rev it out more is to have a higher top speed in each gear and to have the next gear land at an RPM where the turbo can spool faster. That's assuming I don't break traction and bog lol.
What I've always done with limiting boost in 1st and 2nd gear is reduce APP translation tables in correlation to load targets for those specific gears. I find it works pretty good, but the main thing for me is getting it to spool faster and more responsively. I could use the WOT box to flat foot shift, but before I start doing that I want to refine the the tune as much as I can first. It's definitely interesting with this larger 0.82 AR turbine housing. The S4 was much more responsive lol. BTW do u have instagram?
I got the initial d vibes need a new tac bro
Did you start with a mazdaspeed. Or just the 2.3 and turbocharged it?
The car is a 2009 Mazdaspeed 3 and I bought it in stock form back in 2012
Ello broski! Would you let me know where you got that wing from, or where I can get it from?
Your zoom is hot, you already know that💯🧙♂️
Hey thanks man! This wing came with the car from factory
@@WannabeTuners Ufff... USDM is different from EUDM - my MS3 has a little flap :(
Any idea where I could source it from and get it over here in Romania?
Thanks a ton and keep up the amazing work!!! Your energy is fantastic🔥
@@tosgaly I think maybe a local dealer may be able to order one from a dealer in North America and get it shipped out to you
I plan on getting one soon you think stock internals could handle stage 2 and tune from Cobb?
As long as the engine has good compression, has been well maintained, and quality fuel is being used, stage 2 is very reliable on a stock engine :)
@@WannabeTuners I mean if I blow the engine on it gives me a reason to build it and have a fresh start 😂
@@0riginalfuz Haha perfect!
what mods are on this thing ?
I thought they where AWD. Which ones are AWD? The hatches and sedans?
Only the Mazdaspeed 6 is AWD, however they share the same engine with the Speed 3 and CX7
So what helps you combat the torque steer lol mine is soooooo bad
Reducing power output in the first two gears definitely helps ;) I've learned a decent amount since posting this video. I'm currently revving to 7500 rpm and reducing load targets in the first two gears to maintain traction. And running pump gas 94 octane only has been surprisingly fun 😁 It goes to show that an efficient setup that breathes well can make good power on pump gas alone.
Couldnt you make the target boost lower like lets say 18psi for 1st and 2nd then add boost to 3rd and above individually in the cobb accestuner... i know theres a tuning table for that
I've tried lowering values in the boost compensation tables for 1st and 2nd gear several times, but they don't seem to work at all, and also seem to affect other gears, so I've stopped using those tables all together and just leave them OTS. The best thing I've found for me is to modulate throttle in 1st and 2nd, while targeting less timing in the lower load regions achieved in 1st in 2nd in the higher rpm areas. This allows power to be much more controlled in 1st and 2nd, until I reach 3rd and plant my foot to the floor which achieves higher calculated loads where much more timing is targeted. In this video however I wasn't using this approach, as timing was just being tapered up from high to low loads.
I'm currently building a 2011 Mazda CX-7 studs,aux fuel, downpipe,versatune, should be fun hit me up
Traded my truck for a 2010 speed 3 and it already knocked a rod I believe, what should I do, rebuild it or get a new motor installed? I’m kinda on a budget as well
I'd say get the engine built with forged internals ;)
Yup. I bought a stage 1 built long block from speed performance :) probably the best route to go at the moment with overspeed not offering built blocks
@@NewDemons666 Beauty! Can't go wrong with SP63
Can't get my car past 175 unless I'm idling. How do u get to 190 driving
@michaellevenduski7263 Are u talking about coolant temp? 175F sound kind of cold. Maybe your thermostat is sticking open. I personally had an issue where my AUX fuel line was resting on top of my coolant temp sensor causing wonky coolant temp readings. I repositioned the line and haven't had issues since.
Are you still getting little bits of blue smoke ?
Yeah if I idle for too long as the engine warms up it smokes a little. Once it's fully warmed up there's virtually no smoke.
When I had my M33, it was 360whp. And it freaked me out. Was super fun though, minus the shifter. Hated that thing. Lol. Now I’m in a supercharged V6 Mustang at 12.5 psi. About 450rwhp. Still feels pretty freaky. But fun as fuck.
Oh nice man! Your car looks sick
@@WannabeTuners thanks man. I still miss the MS3 a bunch at times.
@@WannabeTuners yours is pretty badass man, too. Tastefully done!!!!
What were ur mods for 360?
@@SinFullRexon55 BNR S4 turbo, CNT highflow catted turboback exhaust, Corksport FMIC, Corksport 3.5” intake, Corksport dual VTA blowoff. DramaTuned on E30
What wheels size are you running?
The wheels are 18 inches in diameter and 8.5 inches wide. I can't remember the offset, but if your interested I can maybe find out this weekend. Tires are 235/45 R18. There is a very slight rub on the front wheel well splash shields when turning at full lock, since the 235/45 is a taller tire overall, but it's no big deal.
I need to get mine running again 😢😢
😆 I know the feeling
@@WannabeTuners it hasn’t ran in 1.5yrs what should I do before trying to start it up ?
@@joeestrada6946 I would make sure the oil level is good. Take the spark plugs out. Hook a booster pack up to the battery so it doesn't die. Plant the accelerator pedal to the floor while cranking the engine over to allow oil to circulate through the engine. Planting the accelerator pedal down while cranking disables the fuel injectors so it won't actually start. Once you've primed the engine with oil, you can re-install spark plugs and coils and fire it up!
What’s the average mpg you get with it
The average is usually around 11 liters per 100 km's but if I do all highway I can achieve 500 km's on one tank.
What tires you running
Bridgestone Potenza RE71R in a 235/45 R18
Avuta nuova nel 2006 andava bene come tutte le japu🎉
What Kind of tires ? And size ?
These are Bridgestone Potenza RE71R's in 235/45 R18
What’s the build list for the car ?! 25lbs of boost ?!
Heck yeah! Full parts list in the description ;)
Pick me up a dbl dbl while out
Fuckin love you guys, your speed is sick af man, are you gonna get it dyno'd? I myself have a speed6, stock block cst4 ewg fbo minus intake manifold, 100% meth making around 380, your shit looks quick man!! You gonna take it to drag strip?
Thanks dude, tbh I don't have any plans in the near future to take it to a dyno, as most of my tuning is done on road. I may take it to the drag strip at some point, but it's mainly a fun street car :)
@@WannabeTuners I'd be hype to see drag strip video for sure!!
@@xMattJew That might happen!
Yo what brakes you runnin?
Corksport rear pads, otherwise stock
@@WannabeTuners thanks
@@choppinyacht9033 Thanks for asking :)
10:17 sti didn't know what hit em....
Funny because instead of slowing down to line up with me, he tried to stay ahead. Not sure if he knew I was there, but I decided to do a little flyby just for fun lol
Super fun bro..I completely understand ur fear ,I relate..but that's Built motor is made for That high rpms..😆
My man try my timing map 🤣
I definitely will 😆
@@WannabeTuners whennnnn😭😭😭
@@ZJSProMedia Probably next spring or maybe before winter starts lol
Tire specs ?
235/45 R18 on an 8.5 inch wide rim
Mine made 404whp on a awd dyno guy didn’t know how to tune my aux fuel 🥲 (I’m built stage 2 long block by speed performance with cams and bnrs4)
Haha nice. It took me a lot of revisions to get my aux fueling blended in nicely with the stock fuel system. It seems to be pretty finicky, at least the way I'm doing it lol
Dat torque steer, tho
37 Mods? If I pretend they're $100 a piece that's $3,500 in mods.. mother mary
Why do you run that dogshit slow-spooling turbo and then shift so early? Especially if you have valvetrain work on a built motor? Way to make 500hp for 200rpm, that'll win ya lots of races. This build makes no sense at all.
Too bad you bought such a sleepy garbage turbo :-( Presses Gas *10 days later* here is some power. I also find it crazy that you went through those oil pressure issues and spent all that time on it just to buy another garbage BNR product. Clean car but seems like a pretty useless powerband. You can def push that turbo further and you will need to in order to get a more useful powerband. I would also be revving it out to 7500. I am not sure what your goal is for this. There is a lot of great info on the forums and it seems like you just YOLO'd this build. Who is tuning you? You should be able to push much higher timing and boost with the added meth. If you don't want to make more power you def bought the wrong turbo for the job.
I am tuning it myself. I do plan on setting the rev limit higher as tuning continues. I do agree that the BNR S5 is a bit laggy, but hopefully with tuning I'll be able to make it more responsive. The goal with the car has always been to have a fun street car. Nothing more, nothing less. If I win races, great. If I lose, then that's fine too lol. In terms of why I went with BNR again, it was because Bryan at BNR had recommended I give the Turbosmart OPR a try, which resolved the smoking issues I was having. He also gave me a discount on the S5 since I had the S4 previously. At the end of the day, we have to work with what we got lol