7 Worst Mentors Whose Teachings Were Terrible

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
  • Some games like to give you a guide to help you or your character become the hero they need to be. Sometimes those guides are a bit rubbish, or secretly evil. Here are 7 mentors that we wish we could've traded in.
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  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 7 лет назад +586

    "Mentors are supposed to be wise, Gandalf-like figures..."
    I'm pretty sure Gandalf could be on this list if he explained himself well enough to be called a mentor. Or at all.

    • @Mattheuw1154
      @Mattheuw1154 7 лет назад +4

      Yeah. So why exactly is it we could've just taken... oh, I don't know.. those giant fucking eagles to get to Mount Doom, hm Gandalf?! No? Oh well, then send us through a barely passable route right through the mountains.. that's also fine. Thanks a lot.

    • @nicholascross3557
      @nicholascross3557 7 лет назад +43

      Truth be told, his line "A wizard is never late, Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to." should tell you that he cannot be relied on and that he'll come up with some nonsense excuse when he fails to properly ment.

    • @Halloweenman33
      @Halloweenman33 7 лет назад +49

      The idea for getting to Mount Doom was to be as stealthy as possible. The eagles would have been spotted from miles away and intercepted. Plus, Gandalf doesn't command them. They are friendly neutrals who helped Gandalf because they owed him a favor after Gandalf saved their leader's life. Beyond that, they would have refused to fly the entire Fellowship to Mount Doom because that would have been suicide. They showed up at the end because they felt that Frodo had earned their help

    • @animegandalf8690
      @animegandalf8690 7 лет назад +6

      Mattheuw1154 If you read the books (or you know actuly doing research on it) you would know why.

    • @Chris_Sizemore
      @Chris_Sizemore 7 лет назад +16

      Might have something to do with the Eye of Sauron being able to spot the ring and a few of the Ringwraiths having flying mounts that are quite a bit more powerful than a giant eagle. All the large battles were distractions necessary for keeping Sauron's attention away from Frodo.

  • @KarmasAB123
    @KarmasAB123 4 года назад +212

    Kota: "I can't use the Force cause I lost my sight."
    Han Solo: "That's not how the Force works!"

    • @kin-3877
      @kin-3877 4 года назад +4

      @LaTory50 since I hadn't played the force unleashed in a decade and forgot the timeline of rebels and the game, when Kanan got blinded I immedietly assumed he was the guy from the game and I kept that thought for years until this video

    • @heresthadude1080
      @heresthadude1080 3 года назад +19

      Rahm Kota is just a terrible Jedi generally speaking. Completely useless after losing his sight even though the Force ensures that you don't even need eyes; even blind Chirrût Imwe who is not entirely Force-sensitive can incapacitate a platoon of elite soldiers with a stick.

    • @Essex121514
      @Essex121514 3 года назад +1

      Cinema Sins Guy: Shut Up Han Solo....

    • @gotsghostrider666
      @gotsghostrider666 3 года назад +8

      He cut himself off from the force. He felt like he was a failure.

    • @gotsghostrider666
      @gotsghostrider666 3 года назад +7

      @@heresthadude1080 once he sobered up and restored his connection to the force he showed how much of a badass he was. Even surviving in an arena for weeks without rest

  • @lortep458
    @lortep458 7 лет назад +114

    Andy: "when the Fry twins first arrived in London..."
    Me: "do people call them the Chips twins there?"

  • @alanbear6505
    @alanbear6505 5 лет назад +22

    The worst thing about Rahm Kota was that you find him drunk in the bar because he says he can't use the Force any more because he's blind...but what was the very first thing that Obi-Wan taught Luke?

  • @elaraamaris9595
    @elaraamaris9595 7 лет назад +652

    Thous spider man tutorials are by far the best I've ever had. I was laughing so hard when he left to get a sandwich and then for the next segment was literally talking to you with a mouth full of sandwich.

    • @animatrix1490
      @animatrix1490 7 лет назад +35

      Elara York I have fond childhood memories of that tutorial. :)

    • @robinthrush9672
      @robinthrush9672 7 лет назад +36

      Oo, too much mustard.

    • @lukemmurphy795
      @lukemmurphy795 7 лет назад +4

      Lmao I know right.

    • @anondecepticon
      @anondecepticon 7 лет назад +16

      Elara York Those tutorial are literally the only thing I even remember about that game. Reminded me of the snark he'd give you in that old Evil Dead game if you left it paused for too long. Hilarious.

    • @ChrisAkaMastermind
      @ChrisAkaMastermind 7 лет назад +4

      Elara York funny thing is in the german version you get the german voice actor wo does col. o'neills voice from stargate. So that was pretty fun too :D

  • @nicholascross3557
    @nicholascross3557 7 лет назад +28

    Atlas, Bioshock. Your literal creator, who, while he initially guides and teaches you, is using you for his own nefarious ends and then tries to kill you once he gets what he wants. As mentor fails go, that's pretty epic.

  • @sergeantarchdornan6244
    @sergeantarchdornan6244 6 лет назад +55

    "I can sense only... me?"
    *DIES*
    ....
    *SEINFELD THEME PLAYS*

  • @Overhail3
    @Overhail3 7 лет назад +74

    "Is there really no one else in America that could teach me how to stab Templars?"
    no there's not, Shay killed them all

  • @CaptainPsychopath69
    @CaptainPsychopath69 7 лет назад +777

    Outside Xbox better be on this list

    • @GrimoireOfJank
      @GrimoireOfJank 7 лет назад +2

      yuh

    • @Grey_Warden_Invasion
      @Grey_Warden_Invasion 7 лет назад +9

      If the students are lost causes already even the best teachers can only do so much

    • @musicadictor
      @musicadictor 7 лет назад +4

      wouldnt that mean they were terrible teachers? you want oxbox to be terrible teacher? i mean they probably are, but you want them to be?

    • @lukerogerson6911
      @lukerogerson6911 7 лет назад +7

      I couldn't agree more :-)

    • @roguedogx
      @roguedogx 7 лет назад +5

      CaptainPsychopath ohhhhhhhhhh.

  • @itisALWAYSR.A.
    @itisALWAYSR.A. 7 лет назад +294

    "Not Achilles! My one weakness!"
    I see what you did there

    • @laurenngng
      @laurenngng 5 лет назад +4

      Ahhh I get it now

    • @jamesharte6488
      @jamesharte6488 5 лет назад +1

      I don’t

    • @laurenngng
      @laurenngng 5 лет назад +6

      @@jamesharte6488 In the greek story iliad and mythology, Achilles was a warrior. When he was a baby, his mother dipped him into the river styx which made him immortal, but she held onto Achilles left heel, so that's Achilles one and only weakness and how he got killed

    • @jamesharte6488
      @jamesharte6488 5 лет назад +2

      Oooooh I get it now okay 👌 thanks

    • @laurenngng
      @laurenngng 5 лет назад +2

      No problem! @@jamesharte6488

  • @LolLol-fu2nt
    @LolLol-fu2nt 5 лет назад +50

    “I COULDNT LEAF YOO!”
    two seconds later: waddles away from the temple

  • @ShannonVanshoon
    @ShannonVanshoon 7 лет назад +148

    No mention of Wheatley from Portal 2? Not only dangerously incompetent, but also flips to being a villain at the end of the game. That's like a twofer!

    • @knightofarkronia8652
      @knightofarkronia8652 4 года назад +8

      Shannon Spencer Fox I saw you in the commenter edition video!

  • @ayanhaider303
    @ayanhaider303 7 лет назад +235

    We all know that the best Assassin's Creed mentor is MAAARIO

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 7 лет назад +2

      Ayan Haider no he really wants you to eat mushrooms with him and save the princess all the time

    • @ayanhaider303
      @ayanhaider303 7 лет назад +4

      +John Handzlik But what else do you need really

    • @ayanhaider303
      @ayanhaider303 7 лет назад

      +John Handzlik But what else do you need really

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 7 лет назад +1

      Ayan Haider but the princess is always in a different castle

    • @ayanhaider303
      @ayanhaider303 7 лет назад +4

      +John Handzlik Well atleast we got some shrooms

  • @outsidextra
    @outsidextra  7 лет назад +324

    Good teachers should always be appreciated. Here are some gaming mentors who should not and, in all honesty, should really think about changing careers...

    • @pixeldragon8308
      @pixeldragon8308 7 лет назад +2

      which is better, kotor 1 or kotor 2

    • @untamedpandasweg8986
      @untamedpandasweg8986 7 лет назад

      PIxelDragon RE4.

    • @sladeofriviatv
      @sladeofriviatv 7 лет назад +1

      Ellen, when you started to say that Connor was the most favorite assassin, I was like what are you talking about. Then you laughed and was like, good she was joking. Connor is the most boring assassin ever.

    • @whathappenedtomyhandle
      @whathappenedtomyhandle 7 лет назад

      Mentors they are people who if you/they do their job well would stay by your side for a long time. Mentoring done badly though and they can may your life miserable.

    • @thevrana
      @thevrana 7 лет назад +2

      kotor 1

  • @AnimaVox_
    @AnimaVox_ 7 лет назад +32

    "I couldn't leave you!"
    *Leaves her*

  • @MrSlimJimProductions
    @MrSlimJimProductions 7 лет назад +65

    I loved bruce campbell tutorial in the spider man series XD

    • @willhuey4891
      @willhuey4891 5 лет назад +7

      he was hilarious.

    • @sirvixsa6018
      @sirvixsa6018 3 года назад +1

      "You can practice a little... I'm going to go make a sandwich"
      Next one.
      "All right(with his mouth full) "🤣🤣🤣

    • @Jacobflamecaster
      @Jacobflamecaster 3 года назад +1

      He was also in Spider-Man 3 ps2

  • @enderblawk5068
    @enderblawk5068 7 лет назад +26

    "I couldn't leave you!"
    *Immediately leaves*

  • @tonyfriendly4409
    @tonyfriendly4409 7 лет назад +271

    As deceptive as Kreia proved to be, IIRC she doesn't ever outright lie. With enough influence, she openly admits to being a Sith Master, and enough of a threat for the other too members of the Sith triumvirate to gang up on her. Keep in mind: she was shaping you into a tool to kill the force itself, not to be a model Jedi or Sith.

    • @atomblaze821
      @atomblaze821 5 лет назад +7

      Well she lies if you follow the Jedi way plus if you turn your Force Sensitive members to the light side she refuses to join the party on certain planets. If you slide towards the dark side, she uses you and your cohorts to spread her will on other Siths and Dark Lords and she tells you her plan to destroy the Force itself because she hates life that much.

    • @lordvarrax5060
      @lordvarrax5060 5 лет назад +22

      She does not hate life. That is completely untrue. She even says herself that there is no victory in killing all life. She wants to see the Force die because it is manipulative and does not carry how many lives are lost to achieve its game of balance.

    • @andauril
      @andauril 5 лет назад +18

      killing the force WOULD kill all life tho.

    • @Joemama-xq1ed
      @Joemama-xq1ed 5 лет назад +2

      @@atomblaze821 0hhlh_

    • @ZeldaTheSwordsman
      @ZeldaTheSwordsman 4 года назад +1

      Yyyup, that it would. Which is why her plan is a bad thing.

  • @tristanfaulkner6003
    @tristanfaulkner6003 7 лет назад +214

    I don't know if Kreia fits this list, despite her betrayal and manipulation, her teachings actually were extremely valuable and she did care about the Exile and genuinely wanted them to learn. Her idea of the force was very pragmatic and lacked the light and dark narrow-minded philosophy of the jedi or sith. The Exile used Kreia's teachings to defeat both Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion, both of which would have been unbeatable otherwise. True, she had a deep madness and wanted to destroy the force, but that made it all the more meaningful when the Exile finally confronted her and they dueled physically, spiritually, and philosophically. Kreia ended up learning from the Exile and was finally able to find peace before death. I really don't think Kreia should be in the same category as Rahm Kota.

    • @spacejesus6581
      @spacejesus6581 5 лет назад +1

      Damn Cunta*

    • @ZeldaTheSwordsman
      @ZeldaTheSwordsman 4 года назад +20

      Thing is, this list isn't just about incompetence. It's also about mentors who are abusive and/or using you for some twisted scheme. Her teachings may be of use, but Kreia's still treating you as a pawn in her plot to destroy the Force, trying to lead you astray with her myopic excuse for a moral compass, and being an abusive dick to half your party as well as various NPCs.
      Also, her teachings have nothing to do with your defeating Darth Nihilus. _That_ is down to your screwy Force connection, which you had before you ever met the old baggage, giving his large-scale Force Drain indigestion.

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 3 года назад +3

      The Star Wars Universe might be better without the Force. No individual could accumulate enough power to rule the whole Galaxy. Just have to keep an eye out for the droids. The Light/Dark struggle is super dumb and "balance" doesn't seem to be able to be achievable. Trying to be good seems to lead to the dark ruling until it implodes cause "the Force seeks balance".

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 3 года назад +1

      @@elmatador2139 Weren't there lifeforms (while still in EU, pre-canon) that negated the Force?

  • @SOL-qc2bb
    @SOL-qc2bb 7 лет назад +17

    Kreia's teachings weren't terrible, she was a fantastic mentor. Her final lesson just happened to be a bitter one.

  • @omega5040
    @omega5040 7 лет назад +249

    "not Achilles, my one weakness" xD lmao

    • @309Littlelion
      @309Littlelion 7 лет назад +4

      I guess you could say he was her Achilles Heel XD
      (yeah i know thats the joke)

    • @blakechandler167
      @blakechandler167 7 лет назад +2

      omega5040 I guess he doesn't make his own luck huh

    • @Former_Halo_Fan
      @Former_Halo_Fan 7 лет назад +1

      Blake chandler
      He never forgot.

    • @MasterZebulin
      @MasterZebulin 6 лет назад +1

      omega5040 I get it. :D

    • @7tonsofsalt865
      @7tonsofsalt865 6 лет назад

      i watched this video three times and I never noticed that

  • @CaitlinRC
    @CaitlinRC 7 лет назад +794

    Were Jane, Andy and Mike any good as mentors?

    • @TimEd.o7o7
      @TimEd.o7o7 7 лет назад +69

      Well, when Luke was given a choice of his lightsaber color, he went for the one that would make his eyes pop literally. So normal is a pretty high standard already

    • @ruairikiernan8310
      @ruairikiernan8310 7 лет назад +6

      Caitlin RC I would imagine no

    • @isaiahhernandez9465
      @isaiahhernandez9465 7 лет назад +6

      Caitlin RC Really obviously they gave them anger issues

    • @sethryan1397
      @sethryan1397 7 лет назад +10

      see you on show of the week

    • @JaelaOrdo
      @JaelaOrdo 7 лет назад +20

      Caitlin RC Mike probably was good, Andy was probably actively trying to sabotage them, and Jane was too busy building a space laser.

  • @KageNinjaMC
    @KageNinjaMC 7 лет назад +9

    Achilles has a damn good reason to hesitate to start up the Brotherhood again. And yes, he "IS THE ONLY ONE IN AMERICA who can train him to stab Templars". Shay killed everyone else. Achilles was the only one left alive because of Shay's mercy, who didn't let Haytham kill him but cripple him instead. They would surely come after him again if they knew we was trying to bring back the Assassins.

  • @Marc-lf4du
    @Marc-lf4du 7 лет назад +11

    "SOMEONE HELP"
    Spiderman flops into the fire and everything blows up...
    hey seems like the perfect rescue

    • @Marc-lf4du
      @Marc-lf4du 7 лет назад +1

      also that "my one weakness" joke didn't slip past me, I GOT YOU RED HANDED

  • @mathieupr6391
    @mathieupr6391 7 лет назад +238

    Even after all these years, I still don't get the hate Connor gets. Is it because he's human and driven by his emotions, compared to Altaïr the killing machine and Handsome Ezio?

    • @ericnick4498
      @ericnick4498 7 лет назад +31

      Mathieu Pr Connor ia more human character and really love him for it. In fact AC3 along with AC1 are my favorite in the franchise.

    • @Xerber85
      @Xerber85 7 лет назад +55

      Mathieu Pr - To be honest, for me it was the voice actor that killed the character. Very wooden and emotionless voice acting. Other than that and the lack of (high) buildings to climb, I quite enjoyed AC3. Completed the game three times.

    • @mathieupr6391
      @mathieupr6391 7 лет назад +15

      Welp, I won't say anything about his voice since I played in French, but is it that bad in English? That's sad, 'cause Connor may be the most emotional Assassin in the franchise, it's a shame if his voice don't show that....

    • @ericnick4498
      @ericnick4498 7 лет назад +13

      Mathieu Pr I had no issue with his voice acting. I guess people has an issue with his stoic attitude. I'd say it was delivered very well.

    • @Goraka91
      @Goraka91 7 лет назад +28

      Connor is fairly bland but I think it's mainly because he replaced Ezio the goddamn best character in the franchise. Hard act to follow.

  • @joenesvick7043
    @joenesvick7043 7 лет назад +166

    How about Master Li from Jade Empire? I'm glad you referenced Al Mualim from the original Assassin's Creed?

    • @projectmako5770
      @projectmako5770 7 лет назад +17

      glad I am not the only one that though the Master Li from Jade Empire. tricky old bastard he was.

    • @natashajohnson2598
      @natashajohnson2598 7 лет назад +11

      Master Li was my first thought when I saw this video.
      He seemed like such a good mentor at the start of the game, though he didn't seem to be living up to his name glorious strategist.

    • @stephenflenniken6608
      @stephenflenniken6608 7 лет назад +8

      im literally paused at the "beware spoiler section" doing a ctrl+f search for jade empire because i CANNOT believe he was left of this list.

    • @wdcain1
      @wdcain1 7 лет назад +2

      I think he gets a pass because _technically_ his plan worked with him usurping his brother and taking the power of the Water Dragon for his own. He also trained the hero well and even installed a flaw only he knew how to exploit.

    • @joenesvick7043
      @joenesvick7043 7 лет назад +1

      Still didn't do him good at the end

  • @schwarzerritter5724
    @schwarzerritter5724 7 лет назад +26

    Mr. It's Dangerous To Go Alone.
    All he does is push a WOODEN sword into your hand and that is all the mentoring you get.
    You know, I think he might not actually be a mentor.

    • @Marc-lf4du
      @Marc-lf4du 7 лет назад +4

      Schwarzer Ritter ITS DANGEROUS TO GO ALONR TAKR THIS (later)
      hi I'm in this dungeon you spent hours in, don't ask

  • @codypatton9410
    @codypatton9410 7 лет назад +91

    It's Darth Traya, Trayus is the name of the Sith academy on Malachor V. Silly Jane. :P

    • @michaldanek7734
      @michaldanek7734 5 лет назад +10

      I was just thinking "How could she be Trayus like that? Oh wait she didn't." :D

  • @johnhandzlik659
    @johnhandzlik659 7 лет назад +228

    really? I think your mentor from AC unity is much worse of he killed one of the master assassin's and tried to frame you girlfriend for that murder because she was Templar and when you didn't want join him he tried to kill you and your girlfriend . think little worse then mentors from ac 3 and ac syndicate

    • @Alkadius1993
      @Alkadius1993 7 лет назад +18

      John Handzlik
      And to be fair, Henry Green never feels like your mentor, he's more of a guide

    • @assassinm3ntor989
      @assassinm3ntor989 7 лет назад +1

      I KNOW RIGHT!

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 7 лет назад +5

      Avinash Suresh okay I really didn't mention Henry and didn't the fry's Twin's had mentor at the begin how did even tried to look for them

    • @Alkadius1993
      @Alkadius1993 7 лет назад

      John Handzlik
      Yeah his name was George something right? Not very memorable as mentors go, to be honest

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 7 лет назад

      Avinash Suresh
      its not that he is not memorable its just he is to short in this game to be memorable

  • @FarkasAbel91
    @FarkasAbel91 7 лет назад +41

    Well, at least Kreia taught the Exile that things are not as black and white as the Sith or the Jedi Code.

  • @Xhumed
    @Xhumed 7 лет назад +8

    "No, not Achillies, my one weakness *sob*" I see what you did there, Ellen.

  • @novanic4071
    @novanic4071 7 лет назад +34

    I fucking love the "I'm going to die" from spider man

  • @griff9288
    @griff9288 7 лет назад +187

    I always suspected Jane was a Sith. Darth Janus!!!!!

    • @avesrex
      @avesrex 7 лет назад +11

      Patrick Griffiths might one say the dark side made her a bit... two-faced?

    • @avesrex
      @avesrex 7 лет назад

      Patrick Griffiths might one say the dark side made her a bit... two-faced?

    • @aidancallahan4217
      @aidancallahan4217 7 лет назад +5

      I think that she was Palpatine's Master, Darth Plagious, you know, the one that could live forever and stop death. Palpatine only thinks that he murdered his master, but she is just waiting to regain her power here on Earth. Her first step was retaking the Christmas Crown from Lord Farantulla, and now she is on her way to stop Planet Andy in her quest to make every city Jane's City.

    • @grantmoore8228
      @grantmoore8228 7 лет назад +36

      Patrick Griffiths let's be fair. I'm pretty sure Darth Janus only use her powers to force lightning her phone to full battery when she can't find her charger or force choke Andy when she's bored

    • @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
      @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human 7 лет назад +18

      Works double well as a secret persona name, as Janus is a Roman god with two faces.

  • @ShamelessJames
    @ShamelessJames 7 лет назад +131

    "i wouldn't want to piss her off" you shouldn't have said that Jane. now we know that kreia is one of the few people you fear. find a few more and we can stop your evil " every city is jane city" plan.

    • @adamsosna7263
      @adamsosna7263 7 лет назад +13

      Your wrong she just implies that Kreia is her but with dressup and tries to explain that u shouldnt fuck with Jane or u'll be next labrat

    • @TimEd.o7o7
      @TimEd.o7o7 7 лет назад +50

      Kreia is Jane's grandma. Why do you think we don't have force powers anymore? Jane succeeded in killing it off

    • @Kevinosembo
      @Kevinosembo 7 лет назад

      Adam II it's a joke. Don't be so serious.

    • @kyledonmoyer337
      @kyledonmoyer337 7 лет назад

      Well, that and spiders

  • @Dirtyblue929
    @Dirtyblue929 7 лет назад +8

    Are they gonna mention --
    "Beware of spoilers for the following games:"
    Okay yeah she's on there

  • @uncreative06
    @uncreative06 6 лет назад +9

    Loved Connor as an assassin and love Achilles even more! I would still kill to play the story of Achilles, the former slave who ends up in a mansion in New England! Imagine who his targets were!

  • @reececowell6642
    @reececowell6642 7 лет назад +50

    What about Paladin Danse? He invites you into the brotherhood after one mission in which you nearly kill him with fire. Then he tells you that synths are bad and that you should kill them but he's a synth.

    • @madbrosheo1514
      @madbrosheo1514 7 лет назад +13

      Preston Garvey is much, much worse.

    • @featurelength5086
      @featurelength5086 7 лет назад +34

      Never again will I trust an African American in a dapper colonial uniform, with a handmade directed energy weapon, on a burned-out museum balcony. I'd feel a bit racist if that situation weren't so goddamn specific.

    • @FatrickAteman
      @FatrickAteman 7 лет назад +12

      Hey i'm an african american in a dapper colonial uniform with a handmade directed energy weapon on a burned-out museum balcony and i take offense too that!

  • @BFedie518
    @BFedie518 7 лет назад +26

    The Spiderman tutorials were my absolute favorite! XD

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille 7 лет назад

      Those are hilarious. Especially when you end up falling on the floor in front of the poor victim. My kind of humour xD

  • @ramadeaadrindrata5128
    @ramadeaadrindrata5128 5 лет назад +7

    "I can't leave you!"
    *light grumble of the earth*
    *runs away*

  • @deepinderbedi7143
    @deepinderbedi7143 7 лет назад +3

    Conner was a great Assassin and a great character. If you play the game with an open mind and from the eyes of Conner, you realize he's a very deep and well developed character.

  • @taalash
    @taalash 5 лет назад +4

    What about Sun Li the Glorious Strategist from Jade Empire? That guy literally trained you to be killed by him

    • @JenTenZen
      @JenTenZen 5 лет назад

      The Doctor Forever - I came down here just to see if anyone mentioned this lol

  • @Thecommander248
    @Thecommander248 3 года назад +7

    Hey, I liked Achilles. He saved my life twice and I played checkers with him.

  • @saiboonlatt3007
    @saiboonlatt3007 7 лет назад +124

    Achilles wasn't a bad mentor. He was just reluctant after what happened to Shay(most of the entire assassin brotherhood in America was destoried)
    His death was so sad, he didn't live long enough to see his final student succeed😭😭😭😭

    • @DiZtheJedi
      @DiZtheJedi 5 лет назад +14

      But he was kind of a shit mentor to Shay himself. Yeah, Shay could've been a bit more diplomatic with the whole "destroyed cities" thing - it's not like he didn't have weeks or months at sea to work through what happened at Lisbon before getting back to the colonies and completely blowing his top - but Achilles probably could've caught onto the whole "earthquake in both places you were looking for Precursor artifacts" thing if he had bothered to actually pay attention to what set Shay off so completely. The whole of Rogue is about half Achilles' fault, half Shay's.

    • @CameronE.128
      @CameronE.128 5 лет назад +1

      I know man

    • @willhuey4891
      @willhuey4891 5 лет назад +1

      and also shay defected and joined the templars after that incident in rogue.

    • @finchhawthorne1302
      @finchhawthorne1302 5 лет назад +12

      What happened with Shay is a prime example of Achilles being a truly awful mentor.

    • @TheStickAsylum
      @TheStickAsylum 5 лет назад +2

      He sounds like a bit of a heel.

  • @slbwoy
    @slbwoy 7 лет назад +7

    Couldn't stop laughing at the Spider-Man part. Loved the sarcasm there lol.

  • @U_C_G
    @U_C_G 7 лет назад +15

    Hey Rahm Kota survived order 66, he's clearly not that too bad of an ally!

    • @theanarchist9224
      @theanarchist9224 6 лет назад +1

      Alex Healy he survived because he wouldn't let clones on his squad therefore he was nowhere near clones when order 66 was ordered so it had nothing to do with skill more like luck

    • @emperorleachicus2199
      @emperorleachicus2199 3 года назад

      @@theanarchist9224 he didn’t use clones because he didn’t trust them and saw them as inferior to soldiers he could recruit himself. That wasn’t luck, it’s him being right not to trust them.

  • @djemery7496
    @djemery7496 7 лет назад +4

    in the spiderman part the girl "im going to die" i literally died XD

  • @kitmakin289
    @kitmakin289 6 лет назад +9

    "Also, he shot Rebecca!"
    And I'll never forgive him for it.

  • @talynhastime9343
    @talynhastime9343 7 лет назад +5

    The faint off-camera "What?!" at 6:51 was my favorite part.

  • @mitchellbradford9335
    @mitchellbradford9335 7 лет назад +32

    I reckon a good video idea would be "worst things to come from small mistakes", an example being the end of the first season of Telltales The walking dead series, with Lee looking for Clementine and well, you know what happens.

    • @Hlessirah
      @Hlessirah 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah, that applies to a LOT of rpg games with multiple endings. Like I was playing "Negligee" (don't judge me), and because of one wrong dialogue choice, instead of a getting happily-ever-after ending running a shop with my sexy lesbian harem, I ended up being fired and my store closing down forever. Sad day.

    • @featurelength5086
      @featurelength5086 7 лет назад +4

      Or CJ failing to follow the damn train caused a cancerous meme to be unleashed years later. Or how in TES IV: Oblivion, an error in prison paperwork caused a prisoner to be freed. That prisoner would not only prevent Lord Dagon's new world order, but would initiate a spree of theft, murder, and political domineering culminating in literally becoming the god of chaos.

    • @Former_Halo_Fan
      @Former_Halo_Fan 7 лет назад

      Feature Length
      Madness, not Chaos.

    • @featurelength5086
      @featurelength5086 7 лет назад

      Peter No, I'm just so devoted to madness that I can't keep my gods straight. Get on mine level, neonate.

  • @Vercalos
    @Vercalos 7 лет назад +31

    Not for nothing, but I feel like Achilles is sort of the odd one out.. The others betray you or give you such terrible advice that it leads to your death. Achilles is just a grumpy old man who dies of old age.

  • @KyleCampbellGaming
    @KyleCampbellGaming 7 лет назад +3

    In Achilles defense, he played a integral part in the destruction of the Colonial Brotherhood. He eventually realized this and when Connor came he didn't want the latter to fail just like him. The most significant implication of this is the line: "In your haste to save the world boy, be careful you don't destroy it."

  • @WhitcherJames
    @WhitcherJames 7 лет назад +4

    You forgot Bioshocks Atlas! He spends the whole game helping you "free" Rapture from the tyrannical Andrew Ryan, only to find out he was just using you to get Andrew out of the way so he could take control of Rapture, and tries to kill you the moment you succeed.

  • @MJuegaES
    @MJuegaES 7 лет назад +13

    The Achilles' heel joke! It hurts!

  • @Cailus3542
    @Cailus3542 7 лет назад +12

    Darth Traya, not Darth Trayus! For shame, for shame! Take those geek credentials and tear them up pronto!

  • @lordrevantheredeemed2387
    @lordrevantheredeemed2387 4 года назад +3

    That clip from spiderman gets me everytime

  • @sidsamel4683
    @sidsamel4683 7 лет назад +56

    What about Batman in Arkham Knight who screws over nearly every member of the bat family over the course of the game

    • @zerotheg0d330
      @zerotheg0d330 4 года назад

      How ???

    • @Karlos1234ify
      @Karlos1234ify 2 года назад

      He locked Robin away, leaving him vulnerable to being kidnapped.
      Told Nightwing to get lost. His help could’ve been of use.
      Jason Todd is self explanatory

  • @Sercil00
    @Sercil00 7 лет назад +8

    12:05
    First off, OH MY GOD, WHAT'S WRONG WITH HER EYES?
    Second, that clip is hilarious

  • @robinthrush9672
    @robinthrush9672 7 лет назад +15

    You spoke ill of Bruce Campbell! RHEEEEEEEEE!!!!

  • @TeckTheBlooded
    @TeckTheBlooded 7 лет назад +1

    XD That "Spider-Man we are today" clip took me so off guard I couldn't stop laughing

  • @Invisibleplqnetsmusic
    @Invisibleplqnetsmusic 7 лет назад

    Big Welcome to Ellen and Luke! glad to have Outside Xtra on my subscribed list! Plus, ellen is such an adorable little thing! keep kicking ass everyone!

  • @jirayuarayaprayoon3975
    @jirayuarayaprayoon3975 7 лет назад +6

    I never understood the "Don't kill your arch nemesis after you defeated him because you're better than him blah blah don't bring yourself down to that level blah blah you'll be tempt by the dark side blah blah".
    You won't kill your mortal enemy but killing thousands of his henchmen is just fine I guess.

  • @nemoku1071
    @nemoku1071 7 лет назад +5

    At least Greenie gave us some guns and a badass Gurkha knife. All Achilles game me was sass and a kick to the shins.

  • @Terastas
    @Terastas 7 лет назад +4

    "This is the bullet board. Catch my friendliness pellets!"
    ~Flowey in Undertale (paraphrased)

  • @Amaritudine
    @Amaritudine 7 лет назад

    Anytime's the right time for an Allo Allo reference! So much sharp, clever humour in this episode.

  • @yagowoebckengarcia6173
    @yagowoebckengarcia6173 7 лет назад +8

    What about "7 game choices that have a painfully obvious wrong one".
    Such as kill your girlfriend in Far Cry 3, Refusal ending in Mass Effect 3, trusting Handsome Jack in Tales from the Boderlands episode 4, all the bad ones in cod Black ops, etc

    • @Rainbowhawk1993
      @Rainbowhawk1993 7 лет назад +2

      Yago Woebcken Garcia Embracing eternity with Mornanth in ME2.

    • @Chocolatepicklesauce
      @Chocolatepicklesauce 7 лет назад

      Killing Ryoji in Persona 3.
      Just saying.
      Also, probably the only one to get that.

  • @BecCallow1471
    @BecCallow1471 7 лет назад +5

    I'm surprised Adam Malkovich from the Metroid franchise wasn't brought up, especially since he's literally more helpful when he's dead in Fusion than he ever was in Other M.

  • @logangoswick2911
    @logangoswick2911 7 лет назад +1

    I love how the blind guy looks back to see the explosion

  • @shevare5wesker
    @shevare5wesker 7 лет назад +25

    so I am not the only one who failed that quick Time Event in Spider-Man 3

    • @blakechandler167
      @blakechandler167 7 лет назад +9

      Mujaahid Bumphus I purposely did it to see the face plant

    • @LSSTmusic
      @LSSTmusic 7 лет назад +6

      Mujaahid Bumphus that segment is one of my favorite clips of all time. I've watched it about 20 times ahaha

    • @Ongomar
      @Ongomar 6 лет назад +7

      I still laugh for a solid minute every time I see "I'm gonna die! **BOOM**

    • @DoctorWhoKage
      @DoctorWhoKage 4 года назад

      @@Ongomar same 😂

    • @nathanallwood249
      @nathanallwood249 4 года назад

      Its meme-worthiness is second only to "Press F to Pay Respects".

  • @alexoconnor68
    @alexoconnor68 7 лет назад +6

    I love the helpful mentors in dark souls. the kind advice they give has guided me through many difficult challenges.

  • @domlocke3845
    @domlocke3845 7 лет назад +4

    New drinking game, take a shot every time Ellen brings up Tomb Raider across all of the Oxtra vids, and then promptly die from alcohol poisoning.

  • @johnbeam8401
    @johnbeam8401 2 года назад +8

    You guys may have missed an environmental fact of the relationship between Connor and Achilles in AC3. Connor's American moniker of Connor, given by Achilles, was the name of Achilles own deceased son, which you can find on a gravestone at the Davenport homestead, but it is very difficult to read. P.S. Eagle vision helps immensely. Also, there are many things I could say about your opinions on Connor and AC3 in general as someone with a modicum of Native American heritage, and having lived on a Mohawk reservation for about a month and a half, but as I am only on late sequence 5 at this point in time, I will reserve that opinion.

  • @killall1kh
    @killall1kh 6 лет назад +16

    AC:s's Henry green wasn't supposed to be a mentor they were already trained assassins he was more an informant telling who's who and what's going on in the area which they say would be to hard to take back from the templars because they've been there so long

  • @Niemandzockt
    @Niemandzockt 7 лет назад +21

    What about Letsdiemosa from Titanfall 2? All he does is loading you into a simulation to test basic combat training while talking about himself and to make you pass some sort of killhouse while not even offering weapons most commonly found on the battlefield. Then he continues his bad mentorship with dying in the first mission and leaving you with the responsibility of a high tier titan deep in enemy territory. Thx.

    • @matthewcoyle4131
      @matthewcoyle4131 7 лет назад +2

      Nilus But he taught me how to wall run and left me a sick mecha! He's the best mentor ever!

    • @Niemandzockt
      @Niemandzockt 7 лет назад

      No offense, but every Grunt can wallrun. And guess what ppl would say about you if the IMC had gotten the vanguard building plans!

    • @matthewcoyle4131
      @matthewcoyle4131 7 лет назад

      Nilus but wall running and mecha are so cool.......

    • @matthewcoyle4131
      @matthewcoyle4131 7 лет назад +1

      Nilus Also to be fair his only real offense is dying to early which all mentors do except for ironically Mentor the originator of the term.

    • @samuelsoetratma4415
      @samuelsoetratma4415 7 лет назад

      Nilus don't forget he didn't even bother to finish the tutorial and show you how to pilot a titan!

  • @theredmerc5303
    @theredmerc5303 7 лет назад +13

    before AC3 Achilles was training a team in AC: Rogue and sure he may have done a good job on training them but look at what he knew had to be done to get the pieces of eden... CAUSE GODDAMN EARTHQUAKES AND DESTROY CITIES?! after that one of his students (Shay Cormac) decides that Achilles is the bad guy and stole a book with the locations of the pieces of eden from him and to top that whole betrayal Shay joins the Templars, then kills all of Achilles's students, and Adewale and near the end of the game ACHILLES FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED SHAY WAS RIGHT?!
    and the award for worst mentor goes to Achilles Davenport

    • @tgaankerhijki2425
      @tgaankerhijki2425 7 лет назад

      It's not either Shay or Achilles being bad, it's that the stories have shit tons of plotholes in them

  • @watercrackersandwaferthinh601
    @watercrackersandwaferthinh601 6 лет назад

    Can't believe you showed that Spider-Man clip. I'm cracking up!! xD

  • @sourwitch2340
    @sourwitch2340 2 года назад +1

    Love how two of these mentors are also on their list of people you absolutely didn't expect to betray you.

  • @SlayerRunefrost
    @SlayerRunefrost 5 лет назад +8

    Great Mentor? Vader is straight up USING Starkiller.

  • @bainbonic
    @bainbonic 7 лет назад +3

    I love it when the veteran Oxbox team appear on this channel, I'm sure they're _great_ mentors for Outside Xtra. Right?

  • @alexmagneiplays4555
    @alexmagneiplays4555 7 лет назад

    *snort!!* I remember that terrifying woman at the beginning of Spiderman 3 but I never knew what happened if you messed up the quick time event....that was actually legitimately hilarious X'D

  • @erikwilliams1562
    @erikwilliams1562 7 лет назад +1

    2:25, to quote the Great Darth Helmet... "so you see, evil will always triumph. because good, is dumb"

  • @TheScareCrow581
    @TheScareCrow581 7 лет назад +11

    I couldn't leave you * leaves *

  • @joshuahicks7798
    @joshuahicks7798 7 лет назад +3

    Kreia was an awesome teacher. And one of the most enjoyable characters I've ever known.

  • @JackSilver1410
    @JackSilver1410 4 года назад +1

    "Mentors are supposed to be wise, Gandalf-like people."
    Remembers several times in The Hobbit when Gandalf just kind of fucked off when Bilbo and the Dwarves needed him the most.

  • @defaultcameo6341
    @defaultcameo6341 7 лет назад

    I couldn't breathe when Spider-Man faceplants into the fire. You guys are awesome.

  • @reith6073
    @reith6073 7 лет назад +71

    Well you can't spell mentor without torment

    • @danicakelly2242
      @danicakelly2242 5 лет назад +13

      You can if you don’t have a place to store that extra t

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 5 лет назад +9

      You tormentor. And it is, you can't spell tormentor without mentor.

  • @HalfOrcMage
    @HalfOrcMage 7 лет назад +16

    REALLY? Achilles was on this list because he died of old age what the hell do you expect him to do magically live to 300? Achilles was an amazing mentor

    • @willhuey4891
      @willhuey4891 5 лет назад

      and also he regretted what happened in assassin's creed rogue.

  • @garrysmith9515
    @garrysmith9515 7 лет назад

    I love the Allo Allo mention. That was a great show, and you're right. The accent sounds right out of it. Well played, Ellen...'s scriptwriter. XD

  • @ussycleanussyfresh561
    @ussycleanussyfresh561 6 лет назад +1

    Man seeing Spidey fail that QTE never gets old lmao

  • @whereisspacebar2991
    @whereisspacebar2991 7 лет назад +7

    8:53 Did you just make an Achilles' heel joke? For shame.

  • @eyespotted
    @eyespotted 7 лет назад +10

    What about the Narrator from Stanley Parable?

  • @Steve-YT383
    @Steve-YT383 7 лет назад

    I love Jane's skit about Star Wars having multiple horrible mentors. My kinda humor =D
    I actually wonder if Darth Treyas / Kreia had a point...
    Ellen's Connor opening is hilarious too.

  • @abydosianchulac2
    @abydosianchulac2 5 лет назад

    I spilled my food when I slammed my bowl down in anger at that Achilles weakness joke. Thanks, Obam-...er, OX.

  • @brunodionisio2511
    @brunodionisio2511 7 лет назад +3

    What about Kazuo Shibata from the Yakuza franchise? He tortured his pupil (Majima) for a few months ripping his eye out in the process, and made Majima betrayed his best friend!

  • @notagoat281
    @notagoat281 5 лет назад +9

    For some reason, I heard "Gandalf", but I thought I heard "Ganandorf", and I was very confused.

  • @somedaywriting
    @somedaywriting 6 лет назад +1

    And let us not forget Agate, Assassin Mentor in Liberation. Who gets pissed at Aveline for wanting to know more about her mother after discovering that he actually knew her. And then, later, when you rush Aveline to the bayou to tell him that you discovered who the Templar leader was (spoiler alert: her stepmother), she's accused of betraying the Assassins and turning Templar! And then attacks you!

  • @quietthinker3046
    @quietthinker3046 7 лет назад

    I'm so glad someone other than me remembers the legendary Spider-man movie game tutorials.

  • @thejuhlerofdk
    @thejuhlerofdk 7 лет назад +5

    Bruce was awesome!
    I liked that he mocked me.

  • @SerathDarklands
    @SerathDarklands 6 лет назад +7

    0:56 - Vader's a terrible mentor. He continually throws Galen Marek at Jedi Masters who are more powerful than he is, expecting him to die, then stabs him in the back (literally and metaphorically).
    Also, Kreia was an EXCELLENT mentor, if you pay attention. She shows you the hypocrisy of the Jedi and the folly of the Sith. She teaches you stand on your own two feet, and how to do whatever it takes to survive. Her teachings were the ones that made Revan as strong as he was.
    And, it's Darth Traya, not Darth Trayus.

    • @jamesemmons1086
      @jamesemmons1086 5 лет назад +2

      One could say vader threw all that training....out the window.....That dad joke hurt, I'm going back to my corner.

  • @ThunderCatsAreGo01
    @ThunderCatsAreGo01 7 лет назад

    Oh my god that spiderman clip where he just belly flops is hilarious!

  • @jimfox6943
    @jimfox6943 7 лет назад

    Ah Bruce Campbell, I love that dude some of my best memories of playing games are those Spider-Man tutorials they always gave me a laugh at the start of the games.