Horizon Zero Dawn Walking the Walk - Game Design Discussion
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Karak does a Walking the Walk on Horizon Zero Dawn.
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So happy to see another walking the walk...god I love those. I always feel like I learn so much about gaming when I hear you talk about a game in so much detail. You truly are a gaming channel, not only a review channel. Thanks Karik
glad you like them
I second this
digital foundry confirmed ,its visuals are beyond witcher3 ,witcther uses hub even though its map size is bigger than hzd
Bigger isn't better #nommanssky
Dovahkiin Dragonborn I actually just picked No Man's Sky back up and I'm digging survival mode. Would've been nice to have 6 months ago though
You know how in college you wished you had an actually intelligent proffesor who loved working? (There are some but just a few really) Well you are just that, Intelligent, well spoken and you definitely love your work. That makes the receptor actually enjoy the topic.
Kharma thanks man
ACG didn't really understand what you meant when you mentioned a 'whistle' skill. Can you please elaborate on what you meant?
lxl KHARMA lxl iii
@Emma Bradley exactly. Hide in a bush or tall grass, whistle or maybe throw a pebble or rock, then one-hit stealth kill when they approach your crouched position.
Please feel free to call me a dumbass, but I couldn't help but mention how I admire such a triple threat!
Intelligent. Beautiful. Gamer.
You're def out of my league! But I hope you have a good day.
This game has blown me away with it's greatness, and my expectations were very high going in. I am only about 12 hours in, but it is borderline perfection so far. I don't want to spoil anything, but if your first Cauldron run doesn't leave your jaw on the floor the entire time, then you are not worthy of playing this game.
ya pretty ace
You sound like you can read a good bed time story.
Solid Snake lol
I've never seen these 'walking the walk' video. A lot of really valuable info regarding game development that I didn't know.
So major thumbs up from me.
thank man
5 minutes in the video and my mind is blown! I noticed last night that the rain was different to another rainy day I had. Thanks for the video, will continue to watch, probably will watch it more than once.
you bet brother
this game shows how devs should develop games, absolutely beautiful
agreed
great walking the walk Karak, its so nice hearing you just talk your way through the game :)
I am loving this game so far. A tie for my personal favorite PS4 game with Uncharted 4. A reminder that sometimes, 30fps can be just fine. Not great, but good enough and much more than the sum of its parts.
yup
bought a ps4 pro just for this game as it was not coming to pc. I am glad that i did as this game is very very good. Story is what i am really hooked to and how alloy reacts to whatever happens around her.
I love Walking the Walk, keep making them it's awesome! c:
thanks!
One of the most impressive retoolings i have seen of an existing engine was when CD Projekt took bioware's aurora engine from Neverwinter Nights 1 and made The Witcher 1, was such an amazing job.
Still hope they make a mad max 2 that game was not perfect and did get boring part way through the V8 tree but that was after the end of the main quest and was after quite a few hours so id definitely say it was worth it. It had a certain charm and gameplay I've not found elsewhere.
me as well
Whoa 2 Replies in one day? I must be special!
Absolutely excellent video and a great point on sound as well. I would compare that music mechanic to the old Tomb Raider's, where an ambient melody would play when something wonderful or exciting was about to happen. It's such a powerful tool.
thanks sir
The world of horizon zero dawn is quite intriguing and fascinating tribal culture mixed with futuristic technology.
Wow I love how in depth you go! I saw the game review which was nice but didn't expect this much more awesome I'm literally buying it now that I saw this thanks for content have a good one
post back with what you thought
I'm stunned how beautiful the world looks ! Having lots of fun on it the acting I think it's quite good specially for an open world,you were right about seeing interesting things happening that draws you near them to find a a random side quests and all seem pretty unique so far and you do get that feeling or guilt like dam I really should do this done now they need it .. this is how open worlds should be I hope the next skyrim take notes from this beautiful game
Thanks Karak, your review was a final push to get this game and support a new IP. it was worth it
you bet
This game is amazingly immersive. I could walk thru it's landscape for hours and just hunt and explore it's lows and heigts. I love how they handle and include human behaviour. They show how people try to stick to rules handed down to them by there group, but are willing to break them if it's favourable and no one there to judge. I love what they have done with Rosts grave! If you 'interact with it, you get her done to one knee and she talks to Rost about what happens and what she could do now to solve the riddles. You could just go to the questlog and read the next step in your main quest, but this is just so much more RPG like to do. The animals need a bit love, because they always roam around you ignoring you, until you hit them with an arrow or your staff. Would be more realistic if they had a bit of KI to avoid humans and not wander directly into them.
To add on to the explanation of that organic feeling of exploration and immersion, I noticed immediately that they removed the HUD minimap that all ubisoft open world games have, and even the witcher 3 had. For me, not staring at a small circle crammed full of important information and instead looking at waypoints and navigating through the environmental cues creates a much greater sense of immersion, and I noticed that I was immediately more engaged with the gameplay systems in Horizon than I was with Ghost Recon Wildlands. I think more open world games should rely on flow and feedback through systems instead of forcing players to navigate with a secondary 2d abstraction at all times. If I wanted to experience that I'd just walk around outside while I stare at google maps.
Love Walking the Walk! And Mad Max rules. .
This game looks incredible. Great video, Karak. Very informative and interesting.
appreciate that
Awesome video!!! Great analysis! I really love what you're doing!
thanks
Dude your channel is world class
thanks
Excellent vid bro can't wait to get off work to experience it myself.
Will you be doing a walking the walk for Zelda: Breath of the Wild? Excellent video as always.
I will try
Unless Nintendo claims the revenue from it.. I Will not be surprised if they did try to claim you video
UB40Music ahhh yes. Nintendo, the anti-consumer company. Another reason for their downfall. Nintendo would be lucky to ever convince me to buy another one of their systems. Gonna need more than Zelda.
UB40Music no way I'm missing out on Zelda but I really wish Nintendo would pull the joycons out of their own backside.
UB40Music It's not a guessing game, if he uses Nintendo footage they will claim the revenue for it.
This is some very interesting stuff Karak, love it! Tomorrow im going to play it, looking forward to it:)
enjoy!@
Thanks!
Thanks for a thoughtful analysis of this game.
thanks Steven
Great analysis! Thanks for your insight into the game's technical aspects. ACG, in comparison to Uncharted 4, do you think Horizon's engine is superior? Though Uncharted 4 is not open world per se, in my opinion its engine is still the best on PS4.
41 minutes of ACG? oh hell yeah
enjoy
14:30 look at that thing flying in the distance O_O
tubeloobs they are like pterodactyls I hate them lol
Dude, any chance of you doing that new Torment game? It looks sweet.
Love these videos! Thank you!
you bet thank the Patrons! They allow it to happen
Thank you to the Patrons as well then!
lol at 1st I thought god damn a 40 minute review? but damn if it wasn't concise. thanks for another great review.
wait no. Thats a Walking the Walk video. thats not the review
Oh my bad. Still listened to the whole thing and enjoyed it. Will definitely be getting this soon. I try and spread the word about this channel.
First one of these I have seen and it was awesome.
glad you likd it
33:15-33:40... gave me a goddamn heart attack. Did anyone else see it right away?
yay love walking the walks. Btw karak, are you going to review for honor.
I dont own it
What baffles me is how this game looks better than any PC game, ever. I'm very intrigued how PS4, compares to a mid build PC, but yet it produces graphics better than any high end PC. I would love to see a program or documentary about how they code, optimize for PS4 hardware, jeez if we could discover (develop) a way to create these kinds of graphics and hardware optimizations and run them on a mid spec system it would change gaming industry....someone has some secrets and I want to know them...Naughty Dog and Guerrilla need to optimize for PC :(...
4:32 Ayyy sick pun xD
I hope you do this for Breath of the Wild - I haven't played it yet but people say it's a masterpiece of game design, so I'm curious to see your thoughts about its open world engine and systems.
Great video
surprised the vegetation doesn't react when you're moving through it apart from the red grass clumps
ya it reacts to the world, Wind, rain, and some events. But the physics involved would be fucking off the charts for it all to react.
What i have to ask for this game: Can parts of the UI be disabled? I like to immerse myself in those kind of games, and i think the FarCry games have done this great. Thank you
The only game i liked the whistling in was Splinter Cell Blacklist because it had a penalty of if you whistle too much the AL would defiantly find you. I don't mind that its there in other games that have the option I just wish there was more of a penalty for using it too much.
In HZD i was using the whistle and I wasn't having any fun because it just felt cheap when i used it, so I decided not to use the whistle upgrade just to see how things would play out (pun) and its been really fun so far and Im having to rely on skill or whatever.
ya not sure why but whistles in games are just overpowering
Deus Ex:Human had a quest at the start that was timed without telling the players. Devs can be real trolls.
this game is fucking masterpiece.
2:23 exactly the current problem with EA and Frostbite.
1:35 What's with the disappearing spear? Kinda odd...
ACG will you ever do a Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild review!?!?!
I liked mad max karak!!
boom me too!
Amazing game
yup
The Witcher 3 set such a high standard for me that I just don't play open world games anymore hehe
Might give Horizon a try after watching this video !
Thimo that's just ridiculous. Expecting all games to be like another game only means you will miss out on other great games. That's a gaming snob.
Judging by the pollen I'm guessing this is ps4 pro
11:24 I really don't understand why devs feel the need to render more small rocks if they're just going to pop up under your feet like that. It's so ugly and distracting I wish they just wouldn't bother, just leave them out I would notice that far less. That close range filtering and pop in drives me nuts.
Is it worth it getting a PS4 pro for this game? Or stick with my original PS4?
OceanRage
I'd say don't get a Pro until you get a 4K television, but the next system update has a Boost Mode feature that will make most older titles run better. As for Horizon, most comparisons say The Standard PS4 version is impressive and runs a solid framerate. The Pro version looks mighty pretty in 4K and that's just me seeing streamed 4K with no HDR. I'll be buying it for my Pro later today.
OceanRage if you have the money just get a PRO already. I don't have 4K and it's still worth it far as I'm concerned.
i bought the game because of this
Absolutely loving Horizon: Zero Dawn, haven't felt this way about a new game in awhile. :)
awesome man!
Great video
thanks
This was...an interesting title to do.
They is some data about behind the scenes and some folks I was lucky enough to talk to. But there was less here than usual for a title. Makes sense for a newer exclusive.
But the games tight leash on open world fluff and filler and its use of color and theme were interesting enough just by themselves.
You should do a games talk podcast about how games are made and how the industry works. I love talking to people about how the industry works behind the scenes and why certain things about games exist in the industry. I could be a guest! :D
What impressed me the most in this game is that the physical wind simulation isn't affecting traditional sprites. It looks like it's affecting actual 3d foliage models. It's probably not as even trees in games are just essentially aggregates of 2d textures with no mesh. But still, it looks very convincing.
I dont do engine videos
huh?
ya I don't do engine videos. Just game ones
Great Video. Did you intentionally sneak up to that Stalker @ 33:15?
this is a great game. I've been playing it all night. the story , so far, is very interesting and the world they created is very well done.
human151 is it worth a buy im huge rpg
definitely.
human151 the story gets soooo good in later parts.
I feel like whenever I finish watching an ACG video, I get smarter. The way you discuss the technical aspects are so easy to grasp it didn't feel like I was listening to jargon.
well thanks LP. Glad it works for you man
4:30 "The weather system blows me away".
Karak making puns without even trying.
lol
Damn this game is beautiful 😍.
Love how you talk and stuff. Only if the world had teachers like you in school.
glad you like it sir
I never thought that I as a grown man would get this excited when my favorite channel on YT drops a video. I would do everything in my power to get you to 5-10-15 million subscribers. I tell every gamer I meet about your channel.
well thanks man!
tyjackson1994 same, i tell everyone to watch acg for the best reviews.
tyjackson1994 doing the same, telling everyone I can about this channel. Never wanted a channel to grow so much before. Karak is just such a great guy with some of the best content on RUclips.
I do too. Every chance I get when commenting on other videos, etc
Wow look at that beast at 20:27 how it leaps while turning to the side and taking a bite at you just out of his reach. Like it realized it just missed you. It actually seemed to be fully aware of where you were while it was still in flight moving the other direction. The spacial awareness of the AI and animation here is just next level stuff.
I love the community in this channel. It's so unlike any other gaming channels.
me as well
Deus Krieg I know it's troll free. a true rarity in these times lol
Deus Krieg Yeah it's great. There's no moronic fan boys
This was the first game in a while that gave me multiple "holy shit" moments. From the reveal of where you are geographically, to finding out what's "dead" on the mountain, to the first time the map opens up and you get the first view of a sunrise over an endless, gleaming vista, I was constantly blown away. I need to pick this up again.
I love how you can basically explain and show he the entire game yet not show a damn thing about it at the same time.. Fantastic job.
This video is essentially a thesis in video game design. Excellent work and really intelligent analysis. It's easy to see why you're the best reviewer on RUclips. :)
I love everything you said here. I started playing last night and immediately was blown away, stayed up til 5 on it. It's great to just be immersed in a new world.
ya its awesome
You get it. Some reviewers just don’t get it with the world building and details in this game. I just love the story too.
ACG- The wine taster of video games. Awesome work
I got HZD (Complete Edition inc. Frozen Wilds) for $14 from the PS store. Flippin' amazing in so many ways.
This is after me coming from RDR2 and Spider-Man. (Both unfinished.) The mechanics, the production design here... Very nearly everything is blowing my mind.
Yesterday I fought two glinthawks on top of a tall narrow butte so I could collect a metal flower. Juked halfway over a ledge and when the final one screamed by me, I switched mid-juke to fire arrows, rapidly triple nocked and grounded it. Three deft strikes later, I let out a "WOO-HOO" the neighbors could have heard.
Thanks so much for your insightful uploads.
Until Dawn was such a dogshit performer. Linear corridor game averaging 15 fps. Surprised to hear that crap engine was made into a well-performing open world.
agreed
Adam Smasher its called talent, which the until dawn developers didnt have.
it's pretty much locked 30 if you have boost mode enabled
I played this game for about 8 hours today. I couldn't help it! This game, it's story, characters, and graphics, drew me into its world. It was really tough coming back to mine so I could feed my kids, walk my dog. LOL! I didn't want to leave HZD for real life stuff. This game has got me hooked!
I watched your video afterwards and now I have an entirely different respect for this game. Holy cow! Now I see why it took this dev team almost 6 years to finish it.
ACG, your game reviews are the very best in RUclips. Thank you for the excellent content you provide for your listeners.
I gave a thumb up! Now that you walked across the map, I don't have to do it anymore! :)
Having a blast playing the game, good video as always.
I'm in love with this game. Could easily become one of my all time favorites
Great video yet again ACG! I feel Horizon's world-while not to the scale of The Witcher 3-is more interesting, alive and honestly just more fun. I also feel you hit a point of the sound department that distracted me from The Witcher 3. I felt the music was too intrusive and the same theme repeated itself far too often. Horizon takes the Christopher Nolan / Hans Zimmer approach to music where its only there when it needs to be. It has dramatic impact just like A Dark Knight, Inception and probably the best example-Interstellar. Its not afraid to allow the game world to be the main focus and then support it with great music when its needed.
Can’t wait to play this! I’m right in the middle of Witcher 3 right now, and loving it! Found your video for Witcher 3, and saw this. Great channel!
gotta pick this up in the morning. all ive seen and heard are very good things. im so ready to just get absorbed into a fantastic world.
Looks like theyve done an amazing job given the systems power.
yes for sure
yep
dude, you are the man, love this breakdown!!! Keep up the great work!
Hey dude great video . Seems well thought out , your not boring lol,
"typical gaia versus technology story"
haha...see what you did there...
This is clearly the best looking console game ever.
Really want this game, but was wondering if you can minimise the HUD in the game? (Sorry if you've mentioned it elsewhere before)
yup
I think the game is best enjoyed on hard difficulty
The Apex of the video entertainment industry 2017, and it will smash it again for the best DLC category when Frozen Wilds hits our hard drives around November time I hear....
ya know... i always wondered what it was about this game that always seemed too familiar... i think i finally know what it is. its laid out alot like a ubisoft open world title like a mix between far cry and assassins creed, especially with the markers on screen indicating different interaction / collectible items; however, much more refined in the technical department.
you seem to be one of the few channels for grown-ups. mature, honest and smart videos...like it!
Is the performance change considerable from a PS4 to a Pro?
Great point about the whole "I'll meet you in X in a bit" thing. Adding to this is the generally cautious and somewhat indirect way you have to move through the world, especially early in the game, where you can easily get clobbered.
This game does "eye candy" better than anything else, even with the console limitations. Everything is lush and beautiful.
The colour coding in this game is rather amazing. The creatures, the areas, the armor... Seriously, before I finally managed to remember the tribe names, I went by colour alone - blue for Nora, red being Carja, Oseram yellow/orange (thanks, Erend) and Banuk... well, incorrect as it might be, the first Banuk I really recognized as such either wore machine armor or face paint, so I now associate white. Compare this to Witcher 3, where my only recognition was “Nilfgaard/Black Ones“ and “all the rest“. Just... urgh, I love this game and it's great to find out more about it, even late as I am.
Great discussion and earlier review of the game! I would love to see you review the new Zelda game and discuss its success (or lack thereof) in a number of these same key areas. I've been a devoted Zelda fan since I played the original as a kid, and have been waiting for years for the next Zelda game to come out (hoping that it would finally provide us with the kind of story-telling, world-building, and level of immersion that it seems HZD has achieved), but given how hampered BOTW seems to be by the Switch's own hardware limitations (and the sacrifices in story-telling, world-building, and immersion that Nintendo seems, in my opinion, to have had to make as a result), I'm strongly leaning towards buying a PS4 and HDZ instead. A similar analysis of BOTW from you would serve as my definitive review! Subbing now!
Hey man. Thanks for doing these. Big fan since i stumbled upon the Watch Dogs Walking the Walk. Your love for detail and perspective made me buy more than one title and actually brought me back to playing open world games like i used to. Like a tourist. In particular, thanks for doing Homefront (that "lets reach out and touch someone" bit with the grenade launcher is still revisited regularly). Made me buy it and playing it with open eyes made it a great experience. Also turn off every UI element i can nowadays. Boy, does that make a difference.
That said... Where the flying ** is Mad Max dude? You cant tease me in an International Podcast and then not deliver. That game needs the Karak kiss. Get to it. ;)
xoxo
Hey brother! Glad to see your subscription count go through the roof! Glad to see a walking the walk on horizon. I purchased the deluxe edition and really am looking forward to this. I don't usually use my ps4 until an exclusive game like this comes out. I'm either on the PC or Xbox. Glad to see PlayStation coming out with single player AAA experiences. I also can not wait for Kuno.
Mad Max is solid. It's just unfortunate that once you get all the upgrades, it grinds to a halt. Also homing missiles means the amazing car combat turns into "press button to win*
the dynamic HUD system is phenomenal IMO, a new benchmark in open world games like this, I played Witcher 3 without HUD the second time through, but couldn't do it the first time, there wasn't enough information given to the player unless you knew already