Fantastic episode. This had EVERYTHING you want in it, a classic replica, a throng of 928 GTS's and more great engineering and electrickery. I've loved this series, whilst not a big believer in EV's the fabrication work and electrical modifications are fascinating. Thanks!
Great episode, you and Matt leaping ahead with progress Great to see the best of Analogue in at Bruce and Sean's, and potential Digital at Matt's Not an aircooled fan but appreciate the effort put into the 911ST I got the radio working in my 928 but have not listened to it on any trips I've taken Keep up these great vids
Really enjoying this marvellous series and very much eyeing up my recently purchased, rather scruffy, non-running ‘79 928 and hoping I can manage an EV conversion. To me at least it seems to fit so well with its general vibe of retro-futuristic well-engineered luxury. Also I will happily buy you (Stu) the bump cap of your choice. Surely it’s time.
That's very kind of you, young fella. Thank you for the support of the concept. "retro-futuristic luxury" I like that. I hadn't thought about merch but at the end of this and only when it's up and running, I should produce some 928 EV8 merchandise. Too early would be tempting fate. What's wrong with your '79? Is it too far gone to resuscitate as petrol?
@@inCARnationAustraliaI realised I needed to add a note to say that I intended to get the car running well and looking elegant again before considering its electrification, but you beat me to the keyboard. It was running when the previous owner put it into storage a couple of years ago and I’ve only owned it 2 days (much of which I’ve spent binge-watching your 928 transMoGrification) but I don’t think there’s much preventing it starting and moving. I think it will take effort and money before it’s presentable and properly mechanically sound but that’s the part I’m excited about. It’s not a basket case but I don’t think anyone else would have taken it on (at least not this decade, though perhaps the 928’s star is still rising) and that’s my justification for planning (and it is only planning at this point) to electrify it. I’m fortunate enough to have wind turbines on my bit of land (in NE Scotland) and I’d just feel more comfortable using locally-sourced electrons rather than hydrocarbons to make it go. Sorry for the long comment but I also wanted to say that I admire your outlook and demeanour. I’m not all that many years younger than you and I like to think I can retain some mental suppleness, not turn into an egotistical grump, move with the times but still benefit from my experience. And I’ll add your fine example to the mix of traits that I’m aiming for. Good luck with it all!
Another comment Stu, I would think twice about making the safety disconnect inaccessible without moving the battery box. It will be needed for servicing and emergencies. Can you move the conacyor box forward and create a recess for the disconnect? You seem to have plenty of space.
MG thought of that. There is a small service disconnect plug, small orange thing beside the main HV connector, that is easily accessible at all times. When pulled out it prevents any of the contactors activating and ensures all 3 HV contacts are disconnected.
28:00 after owning my 928 I instinctively looked for the circlips! No one needs a metal rod poking into the radiator. So all of the batteries fit into the front? It’ll be interesting to see the final weight and distribution but very encouraging!
Projected weight distribution is 50/50 but I was hoping for something a little more rear biased to address the 928's mild understeer tendency under brakes on tighter roads.
Hi mate, I just saw that Electric Classic Cars is doing a 928 S4 conversion on a car they got donated (engine and gearbox had failed), you might want to follow that one ;).
@@inCARnationAustralia yeah they're are far removed from the hobby approach and very much a professional conversion business! I love their work and follow the channel. Maybe one day (post Powerball) I will get them to build my dream BEV 4WD truck, at least the EV conversion part!!!
At one point, Stu reflects on the importance of doing things right, then at the end cites "We don't need a cooling system" ... what could possibly go wrong ?
I will definitely be adding one, actually two, and do have all the radiators and fans already purchased. One in the front for the battery and one in the back for the motor, invertor and charger. But the battery and motor system do already have inbuilt temp sensors in every battery module, and also in the invertor and motor. So if it were to get too hot, the current control systems will shut it down or go into limp mode. "No fluids test" will be limited to the courtyard outside the workshop, not on the road. So only to prove that it works and virtually no throttle/load. No doubt a couple of episodes devoted to building and calibrating the cooling systems. Cars like the Nissan Leaf use similar battery without a fluid-based cooling system. Just the pads and plates will have a significant heatsink effect for the purposes of a basic test. I'm actually more concerned about the invertor's cooling than the battery. But hey thanks for the thought. 🤟
At this stage I've just primed it so it doesn't rust. But it will need to be fully enclosed in some outer skin as well, with a vent. And probably puncture protection from underneath, even though it's sitting above the rack and engine cross member.
I find it quite easy to believe. What is the "only" positive attribute to which you refer young Anton? Surely there are more than just one attribute you deem worthy about the glorious 928. How about the comfort, style, ride quality, handling, performance, braking and timeless elegance. Or are you just talking about the thirsty old V8? Or the sound? Not exactly sure what you mean. But nonetheless feeling a bit sad that it doesn't please you. 🥲BTW First "its" should be "it's" and second "it's" should be "its" 👎👎
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Fantastic episode. This had EVERYTHING you want in it, a classic replica, a throng of 928 GTS's and more great engineering and electrickery.
I've loved this series, whilst not a big believer in EV's the fabrication work and electrical modifications are fascinating.
Thanks!
Thanks!
@@inCARnationAustralia also love your wit. I often chuckle. 😄
Could’ve done with some more sparks… 😉
That blue 928 is one of my top 10 dream cars.
Great episode, you and Matt leaping ahead with progress
Great to see the best of Analogue in at Bruce and Sean's, and potential Digital at Matt's
Not an aircooled fan but appreciate the effort put into the 911ST
I got the radio working in my 928 but have not listened to it on any trips I've taken
Keep up these great vids
Stuart, don't shorten those bolts. You won't have enough thread. Replace them with studes that go all the way through and use nuts on each end.
Really enjoying this marvellous series and very much eyeing up my recently purchased, rather scruffy, non-running ‘79 928 and hoping I can manage an EV conversion. To me at least it seems to fit so well with its general vibe of retro-futuristic well-engineered luxury.
Also I will happily buy you (Stu) the bump cap of your choice. Surely it’s time.
That's very kind of you, young fella. Thank you for the support of the concept. "retro-futuristic luxury" I like that. I hadn't thought about merch but at the end of this and only when it's up and running, I should produce some 928 EV8 merchandise. Too early would be tempting fate. What's wrong with your '79? Is it too far gone to resuscitate as petrol?
@@inCARnationAustraliaI realised I needed to add a note to say that I intended to get the car running well and looking elegant again before considering its electrification, but you beat me to the keyboard. It was running when the previous owner put it into storage a couple of years ago and I’ve only owned it 2 days (much of which I’ve spent binge-watching your 928 transMoGrification) but I don’t think there’s much preventing it starting and moving. I think it will take effort and money before it’s presentable and properly mechanically sound but that’s the part I’m excited about. It’s not a basket case but I don’t think anyone else would have taken it on (at least not this decade, though perhaps the 928’s star is still rising) and that’s my justification for planning (and it is only planning at this point) to electrify it. I’m fortunate enough to have wind turbines on my bit of land (in NE Scotland) and I’d just feel more comfortable using locally-sourced electrons rather than hydrocarbons to make it go.
Sorry for the long comment but I also wanted to say that I admire your outlook and demeanour. I’m not all that many years younger than you and I like to think I can retain some mental suppleness, not turn into an egotistical grump, move with the times but still benefit from my experience. And I’ll add your fine example to the mix of traits that I’m aiming for. Good luck with it all!
Another comment Stu, I would think twice about making the safety disconnect inaccessible without moving the battery box. It will be needed for servicing and emergencies. Can you move the conacyor box forward and create a recess for the disconnect? You seem to have plenty of space.
MG thought of that. There is a small service disconnect plug, small orange thing beside the main HV connector, that is easily accessible at all times. When pulled out it prevents any of the contactors activating and ensures all 3 HV contacts are disconnected.
That's the future for classic cars EV conversion.
All I can remember from this ep is the ST recreation😍
stunning isn't it!
28:00 after owning my 928 I instinctively looked for the circlips! No one needs a metal rod poking into the radiator.
So all of the batteries fit into the front? It’ll be interesting to see the final weight and distribution but very encouraging!
Projected weight distribution is 50/50 but I was hoping for something a little more rear biased to address the 928's mild understeer tendency under brakes on tighter roads.
Hi mate, I just saw that Electric Classic Cars is doing a 928 S4 conversion on a car they got donated (engine and gearbox had failed), you might want to follow that one ;).
Thanks yes I saw it. No doubt a professional approach I'm sure it'll be a weapon unlike out budget build approach.
@@inCARnationAustralia yeah they're are far removed from the hobby approach and very much a professional conversion business! I love their work and follow the channel. Maybe one day (post Powerball) I will get them to build my dream BEV 4WD truck, at least the EV conversion part!!!
At one point, Stu reflects on the importance of doing things right, then at the end cites "We don't need a cooling system" ... what could possibly go wrong ?
I will definitely be adding one, actually two, and do have all the radiators and fans already purchased. One in the front for the battery and one in the back for the motor, invertor and charger. But the battery and motor system do already have inbuilt temp sensors in every battery module, and also in the invertor and motor. So if it were to get too hot, the current control systems will shut it down or go into limp mode. "No fluids test" will be limited to the courtyard outside the workshop, not on the road. So only to prove that it works and virtually no throttle/load. No doubt a couple of episodes devoted to building and calibrating the cooling systems. Cars like the Nissan Leaf use similar battery without a fluid-based cooling system. Just the pads and plates will have a significant heatsink effect for the purposes of a basic test. I'm actually more concerned about the invertor's cooling than the battery. But hey thanks for the thought. 🤟
HI Stew, What cooling blocks did you use and where did you get the thermal strips?
Both available online from Lithium Power in Perth, but I got the thermal strips from engineer Geoff who appeared in earlier episodes.
Let me know when you are ready for a drive!
Will do Mark
What's the plan with the battery frame, just zinc it (the bare steel and welds) or a full blast and (epoxy) paint?
At this stage I've just primed it so it doesn't rust. But it will need to be fully enclosed in some outer skin as well, with a vent. And probably puncture protection from underneath, even though it's sitting above the rack and engine cross member.
Some people still like riding horses.
its hard to believe anyone could devalue a European car even more. lets take it's only positive attribute away.
I find it quite easy to believe. What is the "only" positive attribute to which you refer young Anton? Surely there are more than just one attribute you deem worthy about the glorious 928. How about the comfort, style, ride quality, handling, performance, braking and timeless elegance. Or are you just talking about the thirsty old V8? Or the sound? Not exactly sure what you mean. But nonetheless feeling a bit sad that it doesn't please you. 🥲BTW First "its" should be "it's" and second "it's" should be "its" 👎👎