Started By Spiraling my wedges first, then used it on irons in sparse or hard pan irons, both actions used the flange perfectly preserving loft and certainly got rid of hooks! Also flat swing is absolutely necessary since hurting my R shoulder. Working on general irons by improving connection to upper chest and sequencing the motions properly looks promising. Have not done anything much with Driver except to use in fades, shows promise with Woods, Hybrids still a work in progress. Really appreciate your detailed explanations on hand path, elbows, footwork etc. I would never attempt this without doing my homework using ur reference cases!!!
Chris- I love your videos. I’ve learned a lot from you. and I must confess that despite watching about a gajillion golf instruction videos, I’ve never before heard the term “spiraling the forearms,“ so if this works, you get full credit, which means this will forever after being known as the Chris Hudson Spiral. It makes a hell of a lot of sense to me, and I can’t wait to get out there and give it a turn … I mean … spiral!🌀 😊
Thanks. Think about the human body. The muscle chains are a double spiral. So why would we want to do it any other un- natural way. It is beyond me. When I first really understood the spiral chains is when my golf swing became efficient.
Chris, another great video. I really enjoy your perspective on the golf swing and have studied Hogan for years. I certainly agree Hogan spiraled the left arm going back which created a right elbow plane which he maintained on the downswing. However, I'm not sure I agree with the downswing spiraling of the right arm thesis. True, in that one picture of Hogan he certainly did [early] spiral the right arm in playing that particular shot; perhaps he was attempting to work the ball right to left. However, in most of the videos of Hogan over the years, it looks to me like [in the downswing] that he is holding off right arm rotation and squaring up the clubface/head by using the natural unwinding that occurs in his downswing. Of course, centrifugal force eventually takes over and Hogan's right arm spirals, but in Hogan's swing this spiraling usually happened later in the golf swing [later than what's depicted in this particular swing/picture]. Cheers
When I tried the spiraling on the downswing I started to hook the ball too much. Excellent compression & distance with these spiraling moves with the correct rotation starting from the lead side. Adjusted my grip by moving my lead thumb right (left-hand golfer) & voila hook gone! Excellent instruction as usual Chris!) Past & current!
Chris....appreciate the videos. I am 52 years old with low back problems. It appears to me this flatter, rotating swing is beneficial for people with low back issues? Curious on your thoughts why so many young talented PGA tour pros have low back issues so early in their careers....think Jason Day, Zalatoris, Jay Berger and many others I'm sure. Jim Hardy's One Plane swing sounds familiar to this except he talks about a "throw" release with the right hand as rotating....thanks!
No reverse pivot. I feel like I am rotating around my spine. Pressure is being balanced in between my feet and the rotation is happening in between my feet.
@NoMoreSecrets.BenHogan Chris l love your teaching in fact your explanation of how you griped the club l showed my son.However l'm not convinced on your loading.
In the Nick Seitz interview that was the foreward for the renewed Copyright 1985 edition of FIVE LESSONS; Hogan said, "The idea is to rotate the club with the left arm", and "You have to do it with the left arm". He did not say the left arm below the elbow. Last I looked, the arm starts at the shoulder, end of story.
With less than 1/4 second from top of BS to Impact. Spiraling back and through leaves timing to chance. A very inconsistent way to swing. Ben Hogan supinated his trail arm from top of BS through impact. That he repeated time after time. Simply change ball position and body orientation to change the spin and elevation of the shot.
I appreciate your side of the debate. However, how is any of the stuff you are stating happening without the spiraling of the left arm. If you apply any of this to the modern teaching, it will fundamentally break down and cause a mechanical failure. Again, however, when applied to the highest level of rotation, it is flawless.
1/4 second from top of BS to impact is too short a time for any conscious control of our hands, arms body. A singular intention at top of BS, just before the DS begins is the only thing needed to ensure a repeatable DS. Ben Hogan supinated his right forearm from top of BS through impact. (muscles of the forearm are actually finger muscles, and the highest number of neurons in our motor and sensory cortex are devoted to our face/tongue and hands. REF homunuculus). At top of BS have one intention ie to supinate the right forearm as much and as long as you can, through impact. It does not happen by itself. It only happens when you have the intention to do it.. every seing. That singular intention will cause the body to pivot around the left hip... subconsciously.... and the clubface will square up to the inside quadrant of the ball.@@StephenR-nf9wb
I appreciate the quick response, but you didn't answer my question. Maybe I wasn't clear or maybe it's a difficult move to explain. How does Hogan supinate his right forearm on the DS?
Yeah, but surely if one doesn’t open those hips as he did, will soon find they’re be hooking the hell out of it. And not many can rotate as goos as he was.
Started By Spiraling my wedges first, then used it on irons in sparse or hard pan irons, both actions used the flange perfectly preserving loft and certainly got rid of hooks! Also flat swing is absolutely necessary since hurting my R shoulder. Working on general irons by improving connection to upper chest and sequencing the motions properly looks promising. Have not done anything much with Driver except to use in fades, shows promise with Woods, Hybrids still a work in progress. Really appreciate your detailed explanations on hand path, elbows, footwork etc. I would never attempt this without doing my homework using ur reference cases!!!
Thanks for sharing. Keep us updated.
Great explanation. Will give this a whirl this weekend if the weather co-operates!!! Winter in Canada sucks!!
Let us know how it goes. It was 83° here today.
Chris- I love your videos. I’ve learned a lot from you. and I must confess that despite watching about a gajillion golf instruction videos, I’ve never before heard the term “spiraling the forearms,“ so if this works, you get full credit, which means this will forever after being known as the Chris Hudson Spiral. It makes a hell of a lot of sense to me, and I can’t wait to get out there and give it a turn … I mean … spiral!🌀 😊
Thanks. Think about the human body. The muscle chains are a double spiral. So why would we want to do it any other un- natural way. It is beyond me. When I first really understood the spiral chains is when my golf swing became efficient.
Chris, another great video. I really enjoy your perspective on the golf swing and have studied Hogan for years. I certainly agree Hogan spiraled the left arm going back which created a right elbow plane which he maintained on the downswing. However, I'm not sure I agree with the downswing spiraling of the right arm thesis. True, in that one picture of Hogan he certainly did [early] spiral the right arm in playing that particular shot; perhaps he was attempting to work the ball right to left. However, in most of the videos of Hogan over the years, it looks to me like [in the downswing] that he is holding off right arm rotation and squaring up the clubface/head by using the natural unwinding that occurs in his downswing. Of course, centrifugal force eventually takes over and Hogan's right arm spirals, but in Hogan's swing this spiraling usually happened later in the golf swing [later than what's depicted in this particular swing/picture]. Cheers
The right arm spiral does not begin until where Hogan said the wished he had 3 right hands.
When I tried the spiraling on the downswing I started to hook the ball too much. Excellent compression & distance with these spiraling moves with the correct rotation starting from the lead side. Adjusted my grip by moving my lead thumb right (left-hand golfer) & voila hook gone! Excellent instruction as usual Chris!) Past & current!
Good stuff! Thanks for sharing.
Chris....appreciate the videos. I am 52 years old with low back problems. It appears to me this flatter, rotating swing is beneficial for people with low back issues? Curious on your thoughts why so many young talented PGA tour pros have low back issues so early in their careers....think Jason Day, Zalatoris, Jay Berger and many others I'm sure. Jim Hardy's One Plane swing sounds familiar to this except he talks about a "throw" release with the right hand as rotating....thanks!
Chris l love what your putting out there but l'm not convinced on how you load .lt looks to me
that you reverse pivot .what do you think?
No reverse pivot. I feel like I am rotating around my spine. Pressure is being balanced in between my feet and the rotation is happening in between my feet.
@NoMoreSecrets.BenHogan Chris l love your teaching in fact your explanation of how you griped the club l showed my son.However l'm not convinced on your loading.
What does the spiral feel like in your left hand?
In the Nick Seitz interview that was the foreward for the renewed Copyright 1985 edition of FIVE LESSONS; Hogan said, "The idea is to rotate the club with the left arm", and "You have to do it with the left arm". He did not say the left arm below the elbow. Last I looked, the arm starts at the shoulder, end of story.
Great lesson. I have lifted forever and it’s so hard to break this habit. I will think of spiral and not up
You can do it!
It’s spiraling movements around the waist that is also the secret to delivering power in martial arts
Bruce Lee and Ben Hogan....equally genius. Imagine Hogan with today's equipment. All I see on TV is generation lost.
👍👍👍
Chis what starts the downswing? Thanks
The lats.
Hmm…. Never heard that before either. Everybody talks about out the “arms.” Great videos Chris! ❤
Think I’ll spiral on back to the throne before retiring.
With less than 1/4 second from top of BS to Impact.
Spiraling back and through leaves timing to chance.
A very inconsistent way to swing. Ben Hogan supinated his trail arm from top of BS
through impact. That he repeated time after time. Simply change ball position and body
orientation to change the spin and elevation of the shot.
I appreciate your side of the debate. However, how is any of the stuff you are stating happening without the spiraling of the left arm. If you apply any of this to the modern teaching, it will fundamentally break down and cause a mechanical failure. Again, however, when applied to the highest level of rotation, it is flawless.
No two Major PGA winners had identical grip or BS. Impact is what differentiates.
@@NoMoreSecrets.BenHogan
Please clarify supination of the trail arm...I am trying to understand how the trail arm does that in the downswing. Thanks
1/4 second from top of BS to impact is too short a time for any conscious control of our hands, arms body. A singular intention at top of BS, just before the DS begins is the only thing needed to ensure a repeatable DS.
Ben Hogan supinated his right forearm from top of BS through impact.
(muscles of the forearm are actually finger muscles, and the highest number of neurons in our motor and sensory cortex are devoted to our face/tongue and hands.
REF homunuculus).
At top of BS have one intention ie to supinate the right forearm as much and as long as you can, through impact. It does not happen by itself. It only happens when you have the intention to do it.. every seing.
That singular intention will cause the body to pivot around the left hip... subconsciously.... and the clubface will square up to the inside quadrant of the ball.@@StephenR-nf9wb
I appreciate the quick response, but you didn't answer my question. Maybe I wasn't clear or maybe it's a difficult move to explain. How does Hogan supinate his right forearm on the DS?
Yeah, but surely if one doesn’t open those hips as he did, will soon find they’re be hooking the hell out of it. And not many can rotate as goos as he was.
The hips open as a response to what is naturally happening. Nothing is forced or manipulated.