Persona 4 is the happiest, most comforting game about a murder mystery in history. If I'm in a severe depressive rut, playing Persona 4 does wonders to help. It feels like visiting your hometown and seeing all your closest friends and family again.
Funny enough I think it’s the one where the bad ending is the easiest to accidentally get and the most messed up. It’s not over the top or anything, just messed up.
4’s overworld music changes with the weather. Your Affection plays when it’s sunny. Heartbeat Heartbreak plays when it’s cloudy, and nothing when it’s pouring rain.
Your Affection is peak Persona 4. Just an undeniably catchy, warm pop song the fits the vibes of the game so well. As much as I love Beneath The Mask, When the Moon is Reaching Stars, and Changing Seasons; the P4 overworld songs (Your Affection, Heartbeat, Heartbreak, and Signs of Love) are the best
Haha unfortunately "Backside of the TV" is a song you hear a LOT in-game. In the lest spoilery way possible, the Name is literally the location. And this is a song you hear at the beginning of every dungeon, in the "Preparation" Area. There's like maybe 2-3 exceptions.
Been binging your videos today so I thought I'd leave a comment! Your Affection is the overworld theme when it's sunny and Backside of the TV is the song that plays in the hub area outside of the game's dungeons, which are all in an alternate world that the characters access by climbing into a TV in order to rescue victims kidnapped and thrown in by a serial killer, hence the name and the lyrical content. I agree that Lotus Juice's remix is much more listenable on its own and I think the original just works better in its context. I'd love to see you do Pursuing My True Self (opening theme), Heartbeat, Heartbreak (cloudy day overworld theme), and Signs of Love (nighttime at your home) from P4 as well, they're some of my favourite songs in all of P3-5. They also each have extended/different versions on the Never More - Reincarnation - album which is where that jazzy version of Heaven you listened to came from. Peace!
I think the thing about normal Backside of the TV is that it's only intended to be heard very briefly, since it's the BGM in a transitional area you don't spend a lot of time in.
The "thump thump" sound of the bass in Backside of the TV reminds me of a heartbeat. Makes sense. The feeling the song is meant to evoke is one of both apprehension and determination: as your group prepares to delve into a fog of horrors to save a life.
persona 3 is more the odd one out in the fanbase, but because of the remake for 3 you're hearing more 3 and 5. 3's music is also a lot more unique compared to 4.
The interesting part with Backside of the TV is that, in game, the first version works really well specifically because of how little of the song you often hear. It's basically the 'hub' theme you only hear for a bit as you equip your characters to head into dungeons, while the dancing all night version is much better as an individual song, since the experience of listening to it without all of the other game aspects is such a massive improvement, and that would be the focus for a rhythm/dancing game.
Yeah the original version is just supposed to be a kind of march. You listen to it in an area where you prepare your characters for some dungeon crawling. The remix is more of a proper standalone song.
Your Affection is the game's daytime theme when the sun is shining and school is over and it fits really well. Backside of the TV is the Midnight channel theme, the place u go to fight shadows and save people. the thing with both songs is that ingame the sound quality is so bad that u can barely hear the lyrics and it just blurs together, it actually took me hearing covers of both songs to actually hear and understand the lyrics. As for P4 itself, its alot more laidback in its theme then 3 or 5, it still has its dark moments but the fact its set in a small town in japan instead of a big city really gives it another vibe.
After I played P5 Dancing In Starlight, I pulled up a YT playlist of P3-P5 Dancing songs, and Backside Of The TV - Lotus Juice Remix was easily my favorite of any of the 3 games, even without having heard most of the originals of P3 or P4.
I think it makes sense that the remix lands better as a proper song, it has more going on for sure, but I think what you said about how "the aggression is gone" is why I like the original in its particular context. It's repetitive for sure, but that harsh, constant beat makes for a pretty oppressive transition song from the generally chill overworld to the surreal dungeons. It's actually not unrealistic to hear "your affection" and "backside of the TV" back to back, and I think that sudden contrast matches the location change pretty well. Also, maybe this last point is just me making stuff up, but considering the TV theming is actually pretty literal, the synth+distortion (particularly at the start) always reminds me of a sort of electrical buzzing and I just think that's neat It's one of those interesting cases where I think they're both good (personally), but I don't think either one would work as well in the other's place
About 4 being controversial: Before 5 came out, 4 was the most popular and most recent, and some long time fans felt it was overrated. When 5 came out, a lot of the more casual audience moved to having 5 as their favorite, while the older Persona fans have 3 as their favorite. Then, when combined with some of the old hipster resentment from when 4 was the popular kid on the block, it left 4 with the smallest fanbase of 3/4/5. And I say this for someone who was more "meh" on Persona 4. But I think its flaws aren't really the reason its the least popular as much as these sort of fanbase dynamics.
Your Affection plays in the Town Overworld. Backside of the TV is played in a transitionary area between The Town Overworld and the various RPG Dungeons hence it feeling like its a loop in the original version because its a space filler on the way to other musical tracks. The Overarching Theme of Persona 4 is Pursuing The Truth in all its Myriad Incarnations.
Regarding backside of the TV, it plays when you are picking out your party members and preparing to enter a dungeon, so you typically only hear it for about 30 seconds to a minute at a time realistically. The game version fits a lot better for the context of where it plays, whereas the Dancing All Night/Lotus Juice version is WAY better as an actual song to listen to all the way through and would probably not fit into the game as well
Your Affection is representative of what you hear in the non-dungeon parts of Persona 4, while Backside of T.V. is what you hear as you prepare to go into the dungeons You typically hear the latter very briefly, but it is prevelant through the whole game. It sorta primes you for the tonal contrast between the games two sides, the life-sim highschool section and the warped dungeons P3 and P4 tend to create contrast between the two, while P5 sorta puts less emphasis on it. It causes P3 and P4's "sound" to be harder to pin down, but they can pretty much go as such P3: Hip hop and R&B P4: Pop and Pop rock P5: Jazz and Hard rock All of them have a sprinkling of Shibuya Kei as well, even going back to Persona 1 and the Persona 2 duology
It's pretty simple actually. P5 is the latest main Persona game and P3 recently got a remake, so those two are both "current". P4 on the other hand is a lot older, so even though it was very popular at the time I think a lot of newer fans of the series haven't played it. The Persona fanbase in the west has also grown significantly larger since P5 released and became mainstream - P4 was more of a cult hit despite being pretty huge in Japan. I don't think P4 needs a remake but if they end up releasing one, it'll likely be popular again.
The original Backside of the TV was more of background noise while getting ready to enter the dungeons of the game. While the Lotus remix is meant to be listened to as actual music and dance to in the dancing game. Just how i see it. Your Affection is just a catchy banger to listen to while talking to the many npc's
Persona 4 is actually pretty beloved. It had the most spin-off games for a while before P5 took its crown. And now with the P3 remake being super popular, P4 has kinda fallen in the background for Persona fans a little bit. But nothing a brand new remake can't fix. Persona 4: Rewind anybody?
And then there's me bobbing my head to the music, remembering the first time I played the original P4 and mishearing the lyrics.. "your erection.." lol
In a (very small) nutshell, Your Affection and Backside the TV are both "Overworld" themes. Your Affection plays in the real world whileBackside the TV plays while you're in an eerie, distorted world that exists literally inside of TVs. (Trust me, it makes sense in context^^)
P4 was controversial with some folks when it came out because it was such a sudden shift in tone from the darkness and edginess of P3. This mellowed out over the years, and now all three “modern” Personas are equally loved for different reasons, I’d say. Regarding Backside of the TV, the reason it’s so stagnant is likely due to the fact it plays in the main hub or “preparation area” before dungeons. I won’t reveal the meaning behind the name in case you ever want to go in blind.
there is nothing inherently controversial about 4, the only consistant reason people hate on it is because that was when Atlus really started milking the series for spin off titles, and making it such that all of the spin offs were considered canon. which is fair, but the issue they have then isn't with 4 itself, but the numerous other titles featuring the cast of 4(and sometimes 3) that they "have" to buy to get the full story.
Yeah, in my opinion's too the Lotus Juice remix of Backside of the TV is a much better version to listen to!! The original one is very much meant to fit in the game (which it probably does better than the remix would). In other words, both fit their purpose well!
What's funny is that everyone is talking about how you'd only hear Backside of The TV for a bit in the game and the Lotus Juice version is the one you'd listen to normally. The normal version is in my daily playlist and I'd never listed to the Lotus Juice version on it's own. I'm sorry LJ, love your stuff man, but that one stinks a bit.
Lotus Juice remix may work better as a song, but to evoke the unsettling emotions in the location where the track plays, the original is much more appropriate.
Yeah without spoilers, due to the nature of what P4 is about, people get really heated at times… only hurt more by how many want to spoil the entirety of P4 to people interested on the internet. It hurts too, as P4 is my favorite of the Hashino Trilogy (P3-P5, the three games directed by the trilogy’s namesake Katsura Hashino), with my favorite sound especially. Love the pop-rock haha Edit: What do you mean I mentioned the Backside of the TV Lotus Juice mix first as if he didn’t listen to it? What do you mean I wrote this comment before the first song was over? Don’t worry about it haha
Maybe you can skim through some of the other songs in the game's ost you've already reacted to in order to remember the vibe before doing reactions, because this is the vibe of persona 4 outside of the murders and battles lol
as someone who has an absurd amount of persona music on my main playlist, i agree wholeheartedly that backside of the tv isn't as good for listening outside of the context of where it plays in-game, it's one of the few songs i don't really listen to on my own time
I certainly agree that Lotus Juice’s remix is a better listen outside of the context of the game (and honestly it is probably my #1 or #2 favorite Lotus Juice track) but the original version certainly fits a bit better in the context of the game. But I think that’s the point haha
persona 4 is the only one id ever consider replying, the only one where i was invested in every arcs, the only one with persona awakenings having weight and meaningfulness, the only one where your actions feels like choices and not just being forced into a quest persona 3 had AMAZING moments, but those moments are extremly small, 80% of the game is just a borefest persona 5 is pretty fucking stupid joke, you do extremly morally gray actions, but instead of ever questionning themselves the protags are just mary sues who cant be wrong and all of their opponents are turned into cartoon villains instead of having their valid points addressed, maruki was the only good arc, but not worth playing the whole game
I mean, the funny thing is, it's an absolutely cursed cacophony of sounds, but it's not wrong! It really shows it's context of "Oh, this game is _broken_ broken!" in its game, if you were to show it to somebody just by itself it'd just be one big mess of random sounds that mean nothing! >u
@@Xxblade17 And? The Sega acquisition of Atlus didn't occur until 2016, right before the Japanese release of Persona 5. Thus Sega contributed literally nothing to Persona 4 and P4:DAN
I don't feel like 4 is controversial. If anything, I'd say 3 was more controversial before the remake. and the remake itself was a bit controversial. 4 just needs a similar remake to be selling as much as the others, but that's about it. All 3 Persona games are equally appreciated I'd say, for different reasons each. Yes, all 3, 1, 2, and 2-2 don't exist in the public eye.
Sadly 1 and 2 are hard to get and have aged quite badly on top of playing pretty different than 3/4/5. I like them but I can't fault people for not getting into them lol
In terms of discourse, Persona 4 and its very 2000s sense of anime humour definitely takes the cake. Naoto and Kanji are still my favourites, but I don't blame anyone who feels a bit uncomfortable over it.
@@Aiscence yeah, there are big PErsona 2 remake rumors, and idk if they'd take the risk of jsut remastering them and displease to most "casual" persona fans that only like the modern formula, or take the risk of reworking IS and EP into a single game that'd be closer to P3-5's gameplay and some hardcore fans would be displeased. It's almost a lose-lose situation.
Persona 4 is sort of the black sheep of the series, with its lighter tone and more focus on slice of life elements. It was actually the most popular in the series for a while, but Persona 5's massive success changed that. Nowadays, Persona 4 is in kind of a weird spot. Its status as the black sheep inherently makes it more niche, and the game's content doesn't really work as well in 2025 as it did in 2008. When it first came out, it was rare to see any game address LGBTQ issues, so P4 was praised for how it handled those topics. But nowadays, it's the opposite- Those themes come off as handled very sloppily. What was once a selling point really isn't anymore, so a big chunk of the fanbase just isn't really there anymore. So, yeah, it's not terribly surprising that you don't hear about it as much as you do 3 or 5 nowadays.
Hard agree, especially since the additional character doesn't shift the center of the story as much as 5R's, and only truly relatable for a specific extra content
Subjectively. Original Persona 5 lost me a bit after the first half, because the calendar system was pretty much seen already in P3 and P4, and heists weren't that different from dungeons of P4. (Still finished it, though, but after that I had no interest in touching P5R.) Too bad the calendar system and social links became so popular, as playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin actually felt fresh because it had a tighter pacing and could focus more on the main cast.
to answer your question on your affection, this right here is totally the sound of P4
Persona 4 is the happiest, most comforting game about a murder mystery in history.
If I'm in a severe depressive rut, playing Persona 4 does wonders to help. It feels like visiting your hometown and seeing all your closest friends and family again.
which is why someone took the liberty of mixing the persona 4 opening with the what's new scooby doo theme, and it actually works....
Funny enough I think it’s the one where the bad ending is the easiest to accidentally get and the most messed up. It’s not over the top or anything, just messed up.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
4’s overworld music changes with the weather. Your Affection plays when it’s sunny. Heartbeat Heartbreak plays when it’s cloudy, and nothing when it’s pouring rain.
And "Snowflakes" plays during the winter.
Nothing beats an early summer morning, rolling down the windows and sunroof of a car and playing Your Affection. Pure vibes.
P4's Music makes a LOT more sense during play, there's very few times the game "surprises" you and usually done on purpose.
Your Affection is peak Persona 4. Just an undeniably catchy, warm pop song the fits the vibes of the game so well.
As much as I love Beneath The Mask, When the Moon is Reaching Stars, and Changing Seasons; the P4 overworld songs (Your Affection, Heartbeat, Heartbreak, and Signs of Love) are the best
Don't forget snowflakes during winter time!
Haha unfortunately "Backside of the TV" is a song you hear a LOT in-game. In the lest spoilery way possible, the Name is literally the location. And this is a song you hear at the beginning of every dungeon, in the "Preparation" Area. There's like maybe 2-3 exceptions.
But to Jesse's credit, the preparation areas are the only place one hears that song, so...
Been binging your videos today so I thought I'd leave a comment!
Your Affection is the overworld theme when it's sunny and Backside of the TV is the song that plays in the hub area outside of the game's dungeons, which are all in an alternate world that the characters access by climbing into a TV in order to rescue victims kidnapped and thrown in by a serial killer, hence the name and the lyrical content. I agree that Lotus Juice's remix is much more listenable on its own and I think the original just works better in its context.
I'd love to see you do Pursuing My True Self (opening theme), Heartbeat, Heartbreak (cloudy day overworld theme), and Signs of Love (nighttime at your home) from P4 as well, they're some of my favourite songs in all of P3-5. They also each have extended/different versions on the Never More - Reincarnation - album which is where that jazzy version of Heaven you listened to came from.
Peace!
I think the thing about normal Backside of the TV is that it's only intended to be heard very briefly, since it's the BGM in a transitional area you don't spend a lot of time in.
yea it gives off that feel of "brief"
The "thump thump" sound of the bass in Backside of the TV reminds me of a heartbeat. Makes sense. The feeling the song is meant to evoke is one of both apprehension and determination: as your group prepares to delve into a fog of horrors to save a life.
Backside of the tv is a banger honestly persona music is just banger after banger after banger
Your Affection is like the “Beneath the Mask” of persona 4
Is it? I thought that "Heartbeat, Heartbreak" is more like beneath the mask
persona 3 is more the odd one out in the fanbase, but because of the remake for 3 you're hearing more 3 and 5.
3's music is also a lot more unique compared to 4.
The interesting part with Backside of the TV is that, in game, the first version works really well specifically because of how little of the song you often hear. It's basically the 'hub' theme you only hear for a bit as you equip your characters to head into dungeons, while the dancing all night version is much better as an individual song, since the experience of listening to it without all of the other game aspects is such a massive improvement, and that would be the focus for a rhythm/dancing game.
Yeah the original version is just supposed to be a kind of march. You listen to it in an area where you prepare your characters for some dungeon crawling. The remix is more of a proper standalone song.
A march is a good way to describe it, yeah. It's what plays as you prepare for the games dungeons
Your Affection is the game's daytime theme when the sun is shining and school is over and it fits really well.
Backside of the TV is the Midnight channel theme, the place u go to fight shadows and save people.
the thing with both songs is that ingame the sound quality is so bad that u can barely hear the lyrics and it just blurs together, it actually took me hearing covers of both songs to actually hear and understand the lyrics.
As for P4 itself, its alot more laidback in its theme then 3 or 5, it still has its dark moments but the fact its set in a small town in japan instead of a big city really gives it another vibe.
OMG! Persona 4 music! I love the vibe of the game so much.
I played this like 11 years ago? My first persona game. I loved it so much. I feel like it’s due for a replay. I enjoyed your reaction to this song!
P4 music is heavily JPop/JRock inspired, as opposed to 3's R&B/Hip hop and 5's Acid Jazz
When you think of Persona music, 5 is the most common but 4 is definitely underrated and needs more love!
After I played P5 Dancing In Starlight, I pulled up a YT playlist of P3-P5 Dancing songs, and Backside Of The TV - Lotus Juice Remix was easily my favorite of any of the 3 games, even without having heard most of the originals of P3 or P4.
I think it makes sense that the remix lands better as a proper song, it has more going on for sure, but I think what you said about how "the aggression is gone" is why I like the original in its particular context. It's repetitive for sure, but that harsh, constant beat makes for a pretty oppressive transition song from the generally chill overworld to the surreal dungeons. It's actually not unrealistic to hear "your affection" and "backside of the TV" back to back, and I think that sudden contrast matches the location change pretty well. Also, maybe this last point is just me making stuff up, but considering the TV theming is actually pretty literal, the synth+distortion (particularly at the start) always reminds me of a sort of electrical buzzing and I just think that's neat
It's one of those interesting cases where I think they're both good (personally), but I don't think either one would work as well in the other's place
About 4 being controversial: Before 5 came out, 4 was the most popular and most recent, and some long time fans felt it was overrated. When 5 came out, a lot of the more casual audience moved to having 5 as their favorite, while the older Persona fans have 3 as their favorite. Then, when combined with some of the old hipster resentment from when 4 was the popular kid on the block, it left 4 with the smallest fanbase of 3/4/5. And I say this for someone who was more "meh" on Persona 4. But I think its flaws aren't really the reason its the least popular as much as these sort of fanbase dynamics.
Your Affection plays in the Town Overworld. Backside of the TV is played in a transitionary area between The Town Overworld and the various RPG Dungeons hence it feeling like its a loop in the original version because its a space filler on the way to other musical tracks. The Overarching Theme of Persona 4 is Pursuing The Truth in all its Myriad Incarnations.
Her flow is unreal, you could set a watch to it
Regarding backside of the TV, it plays when you are picking out your party members and preparing to enter a dungeon, so you typically only hear it for about 30 seconds to a minute at a time realistically. The game version fits a lot better for the context of where it plays, whereas the Dancing All Night/Lotus Juice version is WAY better as an actual song to listen to all the way through and would probably not fit into the game as well
Your Affection is representative of what you hear in the non-dungeon parts of Persona 4, while Backside of T.V. is what you hear as you prepare to go into the dungeons
You typically hear the latter very briefly, but it is prevelant through the whole game. It sorta primes you for the tonal contrast between the games two sides, the life-sim highschool section and the warped dungeons
P3 and P4 tend to create contrast between the two, while P5 sorta puts less emphasis on it. It causes P3 and P4's "sound" to be harder to pin down, but they can pretty much go as such
P3: Hip hop and R&B
P4: Pop and Pop rock
P5: Jazz and Hard rock
All of them have a sprinkling of Shibuya Kei as well, even going back to Persona 1 and the Persona 2 duology
It's pretty simple actually. P5 is the latest main Persona game and P3 recently got a remake, so those two are both "current". P4 on the other hand is a lot older, so even though it was very popular at the time I think a lot of newer fans of the series haven't played it. The Persona fanbase in the west has also grown significantly larger since P5 released and became mainstream - P4 was more of a cult hit despite being pretty huge in Japan. I don't think P4 needs a remake but if they end up releasing one, it'll likely be popular again.
I'm very mixed on Persona 4, but the music... oh my god
It always makes me think of happier sunny days
Your affection is peak misheard lyrics. A total classic that you hear all the time in the game as it's one of the town themes.
This is 100% how P4 sounds and feels like.
The original Backside of the TV was more of background noise while getting ready to enter the dungeons of the game. While the Lotus remix is meant to be listened to as actual music and dance to in the dancing game. Just how i see it. Your Affection is just a catchy banger to listen to while talking to the many npc's
Persona 4 is actually pretty beloved.
It had the most spin-off games for a while before P5 took its crown.
And now with the P3 remake being super popular, P4 has kinda fallen in the background for Persona fans a little bit.
But nothing a brand new remake can't fix.
Persona 4: Rewind anybody?
so glad you did the Lotus Juice mix such a banger
One of the rare Dancing version I 100% prefer over the original (still like the original)
And then there's me bobbing my head to the music, remembering the first time I played the original P4 and mishearing the lyrics.. "your erection.." lol
I still can’t unhear “in the stream of jizz” from that song, so those two go well together lol
@@Kurlija I mean P4 has the ultrachad Narukami as protag so eruptions are a given lol
In a (very small) nutshell, Your Affection and Backside the TV are both "Overworld" themes. Your Affection plays in the real world whileBackside the TV plays while you're in an eerie, distorted world that exists literally inside of TVs. (Trust me, it makes sense in context^^)
P4 was controversial with some folks when it came out because it was such a sudden shift in tone from the darkness and edginess of P3. This mellowed out over the years, and now all three “modern” Personas are equally loved for different reasons, I’d say.
Regarding Backside of the TV, the reason it’s so stagnant is likely due to the fact it plays in the main hub or “preparation area” before dungeons. I won’t reveal the meaning behind the name in case you ever want to go in blind.
i wish i had a pc so i could change backside of the tv theme to the dancing version cause tbh that version is better😭
there is nothing inherently controversial about 4, the only consistant reason people hate on it is because that was when Atlus really started milking the series for spin off titles, and making it such that all of the spin offs were considered canon. which is fair, but the issue they have then isn't with 4 itself, but the numerous other titles featuring the cast of 4(and sometimes 3) that they "have" to buy to get the full story.
Yeah, in my opinion's too the Lotus Juice remix of Backside of the TV is a much better version to listen to!! The original one is very much meant to fit in the game (which it probably does better than the remix would). In other words, both fit their purpose well!
If someone sent a remix of it also then they probably like remix more than the og one and wanted to hear your opinion on the additions XD
different requesters
If you lived in Inaba you'd understand the vibe
imo i see the most p3 discourse and personally ive seen lots of love for 4, it just hasent been remastered recently
What's funny is that everyone is talking about how you'd only hear Backside of The TV for a bit in the game and the Lotus Juice version is the one you'd listen to normally.
The normal version is in my daily playlist and I'd never listed to the Lotus Juice version on it's own. I'm sorry LJ, love your stuff man, but that one stinks a bit.
Lotus Juice remix may work better as a song, but to evoke the unsettling emotions in the location where the track plays, the original is much more appropriate.
Yeah without spoilers, due to the nature of what P4 is about, people get really heated at times… only hurt more by how many want to spoil the entirety of P4 to people interested on the internet. It hurts too, as P4 is my favorite of the Hashino Trilogy (P3-P5, the three games directed by the trilogy’s namesake Katsura Hashino), with my favorite sound especially. Love the pop-rock haha
Edit: What do you mean I mentioned the Backside of the TV Lotus Juice mix first as if he didn’t listen to it? What do you mean I wrote this comment before the first song was over? Don’t worry about it haha
Maybe you can skim through some of the other songs in the game's ost you've already reacted to in order to remember the vibe before doing reactions, because this is the vibe of persona 4 outside of the murders and battles lol
I see Persona 4, I click like. Easily my favorite Persona game!
These are bangers
These two tracks are some of the ones you're going to hear most often. In my opinion, though, they don't get overplayed.
Yoo this remix is great
as gameplay goes people may have their arguments and preferences but as far as the music is concerned they are all top tier
as someone who has an absurd amount of persona music on my main playlist, i agree wholeheartedly that backside of the tv isn't as good for listening outside of the context of where it plays in-game, it's one of the few songs i don't really listen to on my own time
I certainly agree that Lotus Juice’s remix is a better listen outside of the context of the game (and honestly it is probably my #1 or #2 favorite Lotus Juice track) but the original version certainly fits a bit better in the context of the game. But I think that’s the point haha
persona 4 is the only one id ever consider replying, the only one where i was invested in every arcs, the only one with persona awakenings having weight and meaningfulness, the only one where your actions feels like choices and not just being forced into a quest
persona 3 had AMAZING moments, but those moments are extremly small, 80% of the game is just a borefest
persona 5 is pretty fucking stupid joke, you do extremly morally gray actions, but instead of ever questionning themselves the protags are just mary sues who cant be wrong and all of their opponents are turned into cartoon villains instead of having their valid points addressed, maruki was the only good arc, but not worth playing the whole game
Now that you mention "Your Affection" sounding disco, if you remove the lyrics it kinda reminds me of The Gap Band
I have listened to "Your Affection" a lot during playing P4, and I didn't get the lyrics
Clicked so fast
23:25 Even CrazyBus theme :)
I mean, the funny thing is, it's an absolutely cursed cacophony of sounds, but it's not wrong! It really shows it's context of "Oh, this game is _broken_ broken!" in its game, if you were to show it to somebody just by itself it'd just be one big mess of random sounds that mean nothing! >u
P4 is mixed ? , I feel that's prolly the most liked one. It was so popular its what put persona out there not to mention all the spin offs
It's the best one tbh lol
my personal favorites are Persona 5 Royal (played first and got hooked) and Persona 4 Golden!! Persona 3 Reload did not hook me as much.
Sega simply doesnt miss when it comes to music
Sega had nothing to do with persona 4 lol
sega?
@@manbearpigsereal dancing was in 2014-15
@@Xxblade17 And? The Sega acquisition of Atlus didn't occur until 2016, right before the Japanese release of Persona 5. Thus Sega contributed literally nothing to Persona 4 and P4:DAN
I’d say 3 is the worse of the 3, but it is lot of peoples first Persona so they big it up a lot.
I don't feel like 4 is controversial. If anything, I'd say 3 was more controversial before the remake. and the remake itself was a bit controversial.
4 just needs a similar remake to be selling as much as the others, but that's about it.
All 3 Persona games are equally appreciated I'd say, for different reasons each. Yes, all 3, 1, 2, and 2-2 don't exist in the public eye.
Sadly 1 and 2 are hard to get and have aged quite badly on top of playing pretty different than 3/4/5. I like them but I can't fault people for not getting into them lol
In terms of discourse, Persona 4 and its very 2000s sense of anime humour definitely takes the cake. Naoto and Kanji are still my favourites, but I don't blame anyone who feels a bit uncomfortable over it.
@@Aiscence yeah, there are big PErsona 2 remake rumors, and idk if they'd take the risk of jsut remastering them and displease to most "casual" persona fans that only like the modern formula, or take the risk of reworking IS and EP into a single game that'd be closer to P3-5's gameplay and some hardcore fans would be displeased.
It's almost a lose-lose situation.
Persona 3 is actually the controversial one gameplay wise, everyone complains about the Tartarus before the remake came out
Totally off topic but where'd you get your chain from?
Persona 4 is sort of the black sheep of the series, with its lighter tone and more focus on slice of life elements. It was actually the most popular in the series for a while, but Persona 5's massive success changed that.
Nowadays, Persona 4 is in kind of a weird spot. Its status as the black sheep inherently makes it more niche, and the game's content doesn't really work as well in 2025 as it did in 2008. When it first came out, it was rare to see any game address LGBTQ issues, so P4 was praised for how it handled those topics. But nowadays, it's the opposite- Those themes come off as handled very sloppily. What was once a selling point really isn't anymore, so a big chunk of the fanbase just isn't really there anymore.
So, yeah, it's not terribly surprising that you don't hear about it as much as you do 3 or 5 nowadays.
P3 is the least popular of the modern Persona games. There is a split between P5 and and P5 on which is best.
The demo of SMTVV is free
objectively p5r is probably the best persona game, but in my oppinion its p4g
Hard agree, especially since the additional character doesn't shift the center of the story as much as 5R's, and only truly relatable for a specific extra content
Subjectively. Original Persona 5 lost me a bit after the first half, because the calendar system was pretty much seen already in P3 and P4, and heists weren't that different from dungeons of P4. (Still finished it, though, but after that I had no interest in touching P5R.) Too bad the calendar system and social links became so popular, as playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin actually felt fresh because it had a tighter pacing and could focus more on the main cast.
don't use 'objectively' bro