I killed my first shiny I ever encountered in Pokémon Emerald. It was a zigzagoon and I had no idea shinies existed so I freaked out because of the sparkle and killed it, then I realized no sooner than after killing it that it may have been what is refereed to as a "shiny" and I was so upset I didn't play emerald for the rest of the day. >:^\
I ran from my first shiny ever in D/P. I think it was a geodude and it sparkled, so I thought it had "diamond" ball capsules because ball capsules were a thing. I ran away to go buy some and sure enough they didn't exist. Years later I remembered and was like "oh, that was a shiny"
I also should mention that the starting seed for ruby and sapphire with a dead battery is 5A0 in hex not 0 like in emerald. Makes a huge difference if you actually want to hunt for a shiny in those games
I doubt you would see this 5 years later but can u please elaborate on this? I’m hunting in my Ruby copy with a dead battery and I’m curious how that affects shinyness being determined
@@Tapzy personally with a dead battery if you can do runaways I would recommend that from what I know it’s impossible to soft reset for shinies in Ruby and sapphire with a dead battery I hope this helps and if you ever get a new battery or hunt with the dead one good luck and mush love🍄🖤☮️
Nice video. This was a much needed one for the shiny hunting community, in my opinion. I do have one correction: the seed is determined shortly after booting the game, not when you reach the overworld. This means you can reach the overworld with different frame values. (FRLG determines initial seed at the continue screen, but that's another story) Another notable thing is that all gen 3 GBA games will change the seed to your TiD when you begin a new game. So you can use that to soft reset in a "safer" way within Emerald and dead battery RS.
Collector Togami some of this is new information to me, what I got about the seed is was found either right before or during production of this video from Bulbapedia because mostly I just wanted to let people know what is wrong with emerald but it's still huntable if you're smart about it. Because I have had a lot of people tell me they soft reset in Emerald and had no idea and I've had people tell me you can't find shinies in Emerald because of bad information. Thanks for correcting those couple things, very appreciated!
Collector Togami Are you able to explain how the Zigzagoon can be shiny but the starter isn't whilst soft resetting? I'm assuming its because the encounter values for both Pokemon aren't generated on the same frame - e.g Treecko values generated on frame 1, Zigzagoon frame 2? Or am I misunderstanding.
@@CollectorTogami you may never see this, but for HGSS if I’m hunting for shiny mewtwo with SR, what can I do to add more randomness? Like can I simply just sr and eventually get it or will I just be getting the same versions of mewtwo if I land on the same Frames?
@@CollectorTogamiso in your opinion if I’m trying to collect all shiny legendaries in Emerald (using pomeg glitch) is it worth resetting until I get either a shiny uncatchable zigzagoon or starter to make it “easier” to get all of the shiny legendaries via SRs or is it *almost* irrelevant and I should just keep doing RA encounters until I find the shiny one. Any help/information is appreciated
so to sum this up pokemon emerald V SR 50 times V If Fail > Reset Game V If Shiny Zigzagoon, keep resetting V If not shiny zigzagoon in 50 SR's Reset amirite?
N2N1 Correction in the order a bit: Going for starters (if dead battery R/S replace zigzagoon with poochyena) 50 Soft resets V No shiny zigzagoon, restart save V Shiny zigzagoon, keep save, keep SRing V Shiny starter But I've also done a video on that too, I'll get the link for you
Actually found this very helpful! I've always struggled to fully grasp the specifics of Emerald's broken RNG, and what exactly was huntable in it so. Great video! c:
I'm so happy to see people do understand all this lingo, I feel so dumb as a Pokémon fan specially with Gen 3 being my favorite....and I don't truly understand this video, but I just know not to try and reset for shinies on my Emerald cartridge just to avoid eternal misery.
ShinyCollector98 / For how long you've been around you don't have enough subs. Also you've found so many shinies on this channel, while on mine I've found 2, which I didn't even hunt for.
ShinyCollector98 Besides the shiny Roggenrola I found recently, my luck is bad with shinies. (and RUclips too because I've never experienced rapid growth lol)
Yep! A dry battery in R/S makes the RNG behave like Emerald’s. So as long as you selected the starter quickly and had a dry battery when you got the shiny, then you have an early shiny frame, which can be used for SR’ing other targets
I'm soooo confused. I've been hunting for a shiny mudkip starter by soft resetting and have already gotten 11 shiny poochyenas yet no mudkip.... is there a mistake I'm making and that I have no chance to get it with my current framed or am I just really unlucky? plz help me. is there a way to calculate it?
Yes you can get it. Because you're seeing mudkip I assume you're hunting in Ruby/Sapphire rather than Emerald. Is the battery dead or alive? If it's alive you're just very unlucky. If it's dead you're literally 1 frame of all of those times from getting your shiny starter. So you aren't doing anything wrong and either way, yes you can get the shiny. Best of luck, hope this eloped but if you're still confused please tell which part(s) you need clarification on.
ShinyCollector98 thank you for replying. the internal battery is dead. but can u help me understand something? if I keep on getting one frame off, how long would I have to wait or be ahead to make sure it won't end up a poochyena? if that's not what needs to be done, am I just being really unlucky?
CrappyDuelist 5 15 20 you literally only needed to be 1/60th of a second faster. So that's not much to be off by, not much that you can really try to make a difference, keep going at the pace you are and you will end up getting the starter when you accidentally go 1/60th faster
ShinyCollector98 thank you. it'll be my first time having a shiny as my starter and I had no idea how tough it is with the RNG broken. thx for your help!
The bit about the battle recorder is news to me, very interesting. Has this been proven? Also, I thought it might be helpful to note that keeping your gameboy on for as long as possible while random encountering (keeping it plugged in even when not hunting) helps to keep the odds a bit more consistent. Most people probably only hunt for an hour or two a day, which, in theory, would restrict you to 25-50 shiny frames. Of course, you could potentially have even fewer to work with during the first 1-2 hour interval. Jumping around those same frames every hunting session is limiting in that access to shiny frames past those bounds is prevented. Think of it like this: A particular file may only contain 20 shiny frames within the first 2 hours, but a cumulative 80 within the first 4. The odds would be much lower within the 2 hour interval (1/21,600) than within all 4 hours (1/10,800). You can never know for sure how bountiful in shiny frames your spread is within any given interval of time (unless you use RNG Reporter which would defeat the purpose), so it's better to be safe than sorry. So yeah, the longer your game is on, the more natural your chances will be.
A different pokemon youtuber/shiny hunter told me about the battle recorder exploit and used a program to show the actually frame and how it skips, but I haven't seen anyone hunt using it successfully. Yeah this does make sense, but 20 frames isn't bad, and the frames might only be 1/21,600 if divided like that, but it's still technically 1/8192 just poor luck when generating in that fram (not necessarily explaining this for you, but for others that might read this and get confused) but likewise leaving it on for a bit might give you a worse span for frames, I guess really the best bet would be to vary back and forth between leaving it on and going from the start every now and again. Good insight though, definitely a good point to think about.
So I just got a shiny tentacool 30min into hunting for a feebas, my Emeralds battery is dry, so basically with my rng I just need to stay encountering the same patch of grass until one pops up?
Hey! Do I need to leave my game on if I want to random encounter in emerald without getting rng clones? Can I just boot up my pokemon emerald and start random encountering for a shiny without issue? thank you so much for your time
So, every day I can boot up Pokemon Emerald and begin looking for sableye in granite cave and I dont have to worry about encountering the same pokemon? Im worried that every time I turn on my game Im just encountering the same pokemon @@shinycollector
This video is still confusing. I've been soft resetting for a Shiny Groudon in Ruby for two weeks now on a dry battery. I did some test catches and found that it has different natures and IVs each time. So does that mean I can still find a Shiny, or have I been wasting my time?
You’ve been wasting time. A few might have different stats because frames are on 1/60 of a second intervals. However, you’ll at most find the same one or two hundred Groudon, and will most likely not have a shiny frame within those 100-200
@@shinycollector sorry i watched it before but couldn’t remember! Was hoping someone would just lmk 😆 I didn’t know it before and was soft resetting for Latias, i got really lucky 😂
Great video man. Been k/o ing linoones nonestop and not beimg able to understand the rng and how it worked gave me real bad hopes. So, odds do still repeat and do not just happen within a certain time window of leaving the game on if i am understanding your explanatiom fully.
I don’t fully get how you’re trying to word it, you lost me. Frames wouldn’t repeat unless you turn it off/on, but even if you do, it’s not likely you’d hit many repeats. Each frame is 1/60 of a second, so hitting the same ones accidentally would be rare
The way I think about it is, you want to try to play for longer periods of time if possible and vary the windows of time you play from after the game loads. You’re more likely to hit repeat frames if you, say, play for only 5 minutes every time, since you’ll only have that range of frames to hit
So I’m safe to hunt for a shiny duskull through egg hatching right? I’m just looking for some sort of validation because all these videos have me hesitant about continuing my hunt.
I'm currently going after mew (RA's) even after doing a bunch of research on this subject, and watching the video, I'm still confused about the frames. and I know the answer is right in front of me, but I'm still lost. do the frames reset each time you turn the game on and off and save?
Zack Kazyak frames are just time markers. 1/60th of a second is how long a frame is. Same thing with videos as you've probably heard more often (60 fps) it means sixty frames per second so 1/60th of a second is one frame. Just a time marker for us. The seed starts at a constant, 0. And then the seed moves up per each frame, frame 1 is 0, frame 2 is 1, and so on. If the other factors in the formula are the same, the only variable is the seed, which is a constant based on time. So the seed does change, but the formula in the end is the same. The same factors stay. The factors will only change once you start a new game then ID and Secret ID in the formula change from the previous game file, however throughout the new games whole play through they stay constant to the new formula. So the seed does change the farther into the game you play, but when you start up the game next time, it'll start from the same starting point.
Does anyone have a guess as to why they made Emerald this way? Was it just an oversight or did they want to put less strain on the battery or something?
3:32 "Everything as of yet said also applies to pokemon ruby and sapphire with a dead internal battery". So this means that if ruby and sapphire didn't have a dead internal battery it would be like any other game? Also, if I were to have a pokemon emerald gave without a dead internal battery, would it be any different from the things in the video?
Emerald, regardless of battery life, acts like this And more or less yes about ruby/sapphire. A lot of the games have their own unique RNG, but yeah it’s not “broken” if they have a live battery for R/S.
Important Info I feel this video didn't point out: Soft reseting does not reset your frame count. To reset your frames completely to the beginning, you must Hard reset. (shut down your GBA) Frames start counting down as soon as you start the game up. (meaning frames are counting in the title screen) For random encounters, certain shiny frames only work with specific pokemon, using something called "Encounter slots." Example: If Duskull is in Encounter slot 1, and Shuppet is in Encounter slot 2, and the shiny frame is linked with Encounter slot 2, then you can only find a shiny Shuppet on that specific frame. In order to get a shiny Duskull, you'd have to find a different shiny frame that is linked with Encounter slot 1. In every area of the game where you can find Pokemon, there are exactly 18 encounter slots, even in an area like Mt. Pyre that only has 2 Pokemon.
I'm playing Emerald on an emulator on my phone and it says the internal battery has run dry. Does this affect my chances of encountering shinies or something? Btw im not a shiny hunter
ShinyCollector98, I really do commend you for making this video. Also I am really excited for it too. The reason is that back in 2008-2009 I've came up with this theory and even written a guide to easily get a shiny. But since I was only 14 and didn't think anyone would be interested in an old version of Pokémon, I jus tossed the notes into my collection/personal notes pile. I want to thank you for proving this (even if its years later). For now any thing I come up with I'll share instead of keeping it a secret. I also hope you do well in all future endeavors. Keep up the good work.
Icon Gone Solo actually I didn't prove that it was broken, that's been proven for many years. I just proved that it shouldn't be feared to hunt in Emerald
@@austinbearden2789 I have zero experience and don't fully grasp this whole process/thing, but to answer your question, yes, I recently read that it does "make things more complicated". But I'm still skeptical about this xD if not for the trick itself, for whether it's worth it or not... Shiny hunting in general is more of a source of hate/frustration in the old versions, with or without rng tricks... I'm losing my hope and questioning my hobbies every time I shiny hunt, even if in the end I somehow get one (well, it still has a dreadful nature and/or stats, usually, so...). Currently going for a shiny Zig on both Emerald and SoulSilver, but no luck for 2-3 months now...
Hmmm you meant it in a positive way, right? I had to watch another video to (partially) get that you use synchronizers to force a shiny frame. Man, I don't know then (the guide I watched/read that mentioned the everstone messes up things was saying it makes the egg less likely to be shiny, for some reason, but didn't state any details). I wish it did/does force shiny frames, I guess... Could convince me to go through all these, maybe.
I found my secret ID so I'm using a synchronize pokemon to find shiny and it works. I don't understand if the pokemon that I encounter at the specific "early shiny frame" can change or not.
So the game skips frames between the starter and zigzagoon. Basically, aim your resets for about 2.3 seconds after when you picked the starter on that one
Hi, I replaced the dry battery from my zapphire game, does this now mean that it's back to normal? Or is it once the battery has run dry once the shiny hunting will be affected forever? I want a shiny Beldum :c
Hello, I want to shiny hunt trapinch in pokemon emerald via random encounters. I also want to attempt to synchronize adamant onto it. I have read you are free to random encounter and not worry about shiny frames but I'm not sure about synchronizing. Should I bother trying to synchronize adamant onto a random encounter shiny or not? I heard it ruins the odds. Can you answer this for me please. Thanks :)
I’m trying to get a shiny Mudkip in emerald. So to get it I need to SR 50 times, then make a new save file but then what do I do after with that save file ?
Da Chef no, In Emerald you can never soft reset unless you do the starters like I said, or the battle video like I said. In Ruby and Sapphire you can normally soft reset, but not with a dry battery
ShinyCollector98 Sorry about saying RE. I am planning on hunting raquaza and wanted to ensure I wasn't going to waste time. I wasn't sure if a RA was the same as the RE! Thanks for all of your help!
Is this the reason why even though I had an everstone on a jolly nature seedot in the daycare, not a single jolly nature seedot was hatched even though it's supposed to be a 50% chance to get jolly on the baby seedot?
Any tips on getting shiny deoxyes am shiny hunting it now and I have my gameboy on all the time should I be in the battle or on the island when I want to take a break ?
Hi there question I've had for a while if I reset my pokemon games with new save files each reset as emerald has a fixed seed and then my pokemon ruby and pokemon sapphire both have dry batteries also resulting in fixed seed if I just start a brand new game each individual reset will that be something that would prevent me from running into the same frames as its a new individual save file each time?
I’m gonna keep it a stack, I can barely understand what you’re asking. Initial seed is a constant in Emerald as well as Dead Battery R/S. New save won’t change your seed, but it’ll change your TID & SID giving you different PID rolls
Wait, so I'm shiny hunting Mew in an Emerald emulator (through RAs) and haven't found a shiny throughout the rest of the game. does this mean it's impossible to get a shiny mew (considering I don't know the shiny frame)?
I found a completely random shiny geodude last night on emerald on my gba sp! I think that’s only the second or third shiny in my life. Pretty sure I’ve encountered other shinies throughout the years but I probably accidentally killed them
I was trying to get a shiny roselia from the daycare with a shiny ditto, but if this video its telling the true, there's not a chance to get a shiny roselia? plx help
WobbuffetBoy that's not at all true. You can hatch shinies in Emerald, basically what this video says is you just can't soft reset shinies in Emerald. I recommend stocking 3 or more boxes full of eggs before turning off the game. Then save with the eggs and hatch them at leisure. Repeat this until you get it as a shiny
WobbuffetBoy but your odds are 1/8192. For Rosalia it's much faster if you random encounter. Having a shiny parent won't affect it in the slightest. And keep in mind this video is only applicable to emerald (and Ruby Sapphire if they have a dead battery), not any other game
So this Problem Effects also Natures and IV ? I habe been breeding for a Jolly Sceptile, and I seem to get always alot of of the Same Natures but after 5 Boxes not a single Jolly one. Might this be the reason or am i just unlucky?
you are just unlucky. if you stock up about 2 or 3 boxes without turning the game off, then you can save and turn it off at your leisure and hatch them, you should definitely have the right nature by then, unless one of the parents is holding the everstone.
Correct, you cannot get it with a dry battery and soft resets. And unfortunately, they don’t respawn in RS like they do in Emerald, so you cannot do runaways either. You’d have to change the battery and then do soft resets, thankfully it’s fairly easy and there are many guides for it on YT, I’m sure you can find one easily :)
Its been 4 years ago so i won't get a reply probably but how does it work on the emerald on the Nintendo ds xl? Can i just soft reset or do i have to reset the whole saved data after 50 reset?
so, emerald, even with a working battery, has a seed of 0, and ruby and sapphire with a dead battery have a seed of 0? and only ruby and sapphire with working batteries have changing seeds?
The initial seed in R/S with a dead battery isn’t 0, it’s 5A0, but yes it’s a consistent initial seed. Works the same though, you have it down in concept!
Thanks for a nice video on this! I'm sure it'll help a lot of hunters. I personally don't wish to hunt in Emerald cus the game is so expensive now but I know several people still want to.
do i need to readjust my timing if i have the dry battery message at the beginning? . im trying to rng abuse my latios on emerald and is taking forever.
alright so im soft resetting for shiny starter, making new save file after 60 resets. if i shut the game off at say, 30 soft resets, do i need to make another save next time i boot up the game? or am i good to boot up game and keep going until i hit 60 and then make a new save.
@@lunaria_annua you’d be good to come back and finish your set. But for a bit more detail on that hunt, I highly recommend the video in the pinned comment Good luck!!
even to this day im salty as fuck that i ran into a shiny machoke on victory road in what ever version of pokemon it was that had wally you know the kid that they gave that bad ass music track too when they did the remake lol but anyway ended up hitting a fucking crit on it and killed it >.>
Hey collector, I have a shiny wingull from ruby and Ruby's internal battery has run dry so can I still SR for a shiny rayquaza??? Sorry if this is confusing because this is new to me....
I have a Ruby with a dead internal battery and I have been shiny hunting for a starter, I now know about this broken rng so I won't waste any more time. If I wanted this shiny indefinitely how would I do it? Make a new saved file, encounter 50 torchic and then delete and make a new file? then keep repeating that? So essentially do 50 SR's then make a new file, 50 SR's then make a new file etc etc
Can I still do run aways on emerald if my internal battery has ran dry. For example I’m trying to shiny hunt for mew on emerald on my Japanese copy of emerald but the internal battery is dry. Will this effect my chance of finding a shiny?
I cant run from the fight since my pokemon lvl are to low. To counter this i bought 99 fluffy tails. My question is: can i soft reset the game after i used up all fluffy tails and still have all the chances in the world? since a shiny frame comes up every 2,5-3min? Edit.: I need around 45minutes to run dry on fluffy tails and have to reset.
You could, but I’d recommend something way simpler: catch a poochyena from the first route. It has the runaway ability. No need to soft reset or use fluffy tails or anything crazy
Hey i just wanted to sum it up for me and hope for Feedback because i Was watching many Videos now. So if i want a shiny rayquaza (im playing on a emulator) i just have to Re Do the battle over and over again with running from it and re-enter the Room, and after like a given amount of tries i should SR and try again? I also wanted to ask if i shouldnt fast forward during the hunt because of more frames being skipped, Thanks in advance! have learned a lot from your Videos :)
You got that mostly right, but you don’t need to soft reset after any amount of tries, in fact you really shouldn’t because then you’re bringing it back to just your early frames instead of hitting new ones. And speeding up is up to you, I’d say not to do it because you don’t get the same feeling of earning of the shiny, but it doesn’t effect the hunt much
you said this applies to ruby and sapphire as well if their battery has run out? so I can't random encounter in ruby/sapphire without reseting every 50 encounters?
I'm really confused. So I want to find shinies in the wild. Could I soft reset for those.. or do I just keep going through encounters? I dont know what to do..
@@redpineapplee700 you wouldn’t soft reset for shinies in the wild anyways. I think you’re confusing yourself a bit. Just encounter. I literally say in the video that you’re safe to do random encounters
I am so confused. So new to this all. A friend of mine gave me ruby and the internal battery is dry. Been Soft resetting for a shiny Torchic. What exactly do I need to do?
im doing the method where you run from a legendary, im doing rayquaza and i feel like it will never happen because i havnt seen a shiny in all my 27 hours in and emerald is broken
I know I am late but in conclusion with my emerald copy I can soft reset for a shiny starter if I don’t have a dead battery ? Or it doesn’t matter if I have a dead battery or not in emerald because I need a shiny frame ? Any info helps thanks .
@@shinycollector thank you for the response after further watching your great video again I concluded to just buy a ruby copy with a working battery . And keep trying in emerald . It will be worth it . Thank you for the response look forward to new videos later this year .
I am so confused, I have recently bought a new emerald version and have been soft resetting for hours (2000+ times) I have encountered 2 shiny zigzagoons but no shiny treecko? Do I need to keep making new save files every 50 soft resets ?
FS FIFA you probably accidentally reached a little further out into frames on those zigzagoons by accident, if you can pinpoint how long those resets took I'd say keep the save and aim for that, otherwise yes, reset the save every 50 or so soft resets
ShinyCollector98 I have now encountered 4 zigzagoons but all about 2 hrs apart. The 1st zigzagoon was encountered after about 3 hours. If I do make new save files and do 50 encounters, what happens when I encounter a Zigzagoon in the 50 soft resets ?
FS FIFA just aim for the same speed. And what do you mean hours apart? It's supposed to be from as soon as the game starts up after the main menu, not from when you turn it on. And if you've got 4 now I'd definitely say keep that save, that means you have an early shiny frame and every time you got zigzagoon, you were 1/60 second off from a shiny starter
FS FIFA so likewise, if you do, although you shouldn't now, reset a save every 50, then keep that save once it finds a shiny zigzagoon because you're barely off
I have some questions: Will the shiny frame always be the same frame every time from resetting? Is there always a shiny frame in every 8192 frames? Because if those two things are true, wouldn't it make it easier to shiny hunt in Pokemon Emerald by finding the shiny frame and making sure you always get encounters on that frame
Neefew _ yes they always appear in the same sequential order they originally appear in. No there isn't a frame per every 8192. Sometimes you'll go 50,000 without one (just like when shiny hunting). And yes you can still locate your frames. People do this and it's called RNG abuse. It abuses a glitch in the game and is seen by most people as illegitimate. Yes it makes it easier, however not everyone likes taking the easy way out. This is kind of the same difference of mindstate about it between methods hunter and full odds hunters I suppose, but this scenario also throws in a factor of ethics of abusing a game's glitch.
Thank you for the information about such common misconceptions! I, personally, had backed away from Emerald hunting because I never knew about the shiny frames frequenting every 3 or so minutes like you mentioned. I definitely look forward to getting into Emerald again to give hunting there a try!
If you want to know how to hunt Pokémon you can't SR for in Emerald, I explain how here:
ruclips.net/video/5zxc0ReT-zs/видео.html
Nice G.Yee intro!
ShinyCollector98 I
This is what happens with a dead battery or is this just poor game mechanics
Just the game mechanics. This happens in Emerald regardless of battery life. In Ruby and Sapphire, however, it's only dead battery.
This helps a lot
You're right, this is all Sunkern's fault.
VanyaIvanovichBraginsky curse you Sunkern
Sunkern's villain backstory is *rooted* *firmly* in this plot.
Yes it’s that plants fault
Frick sunkern
VanyaIvanovichBraginsky Damn Sunkern!
Imaging finding a random shiny feebas in ruby/sapphire
It took me about 2 weeks to find a normal Feebas, I should of just camped there until I found the shiny tbh
Temmie Flakes shoulda
I did in Sapphire :)
Temmie Flakes i found a shiny Magikarp trying to get a Feebas. To this day still the only shiny I ever encountered
Marchingvenusaur did you fish it or came across while surf
I killed my first shiny I ever encountered in Pokémon Emerald. It was a zigzagoon and I had no idea shinies existed so I freaked out because of the sparkle and killed it, then I realized no sooner than after killing it that it may have been what is refereed to as a "shiny" and I was so upset I didn't play emerald for the rest of the day. >:^\
I ran from my first shiny ever in D/P. I think it was a geodude and it sparkled, so I thought it had "diamond" ball capsules because ball capsules were a thing. I ran away to go buy some and sure enough they didn't exist. Years later I remembered and was like "oh, that was a shiny"
I killed 4 that i found
I killed my first every shiny, it was a purrloin and I still pain each time I think about it.
Sparkles are that scary?
Same!
I also should mention that the starting seed for ruby and sapphire with a dead battery is 5A0 in hex not 0 like in emerald. Makes a huge difference if you actually want to hunt for a shiny in those games
I doubt you would see this 5 years later but can u please elaborate on this? I’m hunting in my Ruby copy with a dead battery and I’m curious how that affects shinyness being determined
@@Gutswitdaboof710did you get the shiny with dry battery? I want to hunt groudon with dead battery to with softrrsets
@@Tapzy personally with a dead battery if you can do runaways I would recommend that from what I know it’s impossible to soft reset for shinies in Ruby and sapphire with a dead battery I hope this helps and if you ever get a new battery or hunt with the dead one good luck and mush love🍄🖤☮️
@Tapzy I just got a shiny tentacool hunting a feebas on a dry battery on Emerald, also got the feebas
Nice video. This was a much needed one for the shiny hunting community, in my opinion.
I do have one correction: the seed is determined shortly after booting the game, not when you reach the overworld. This means you can reach the overworld with different frame values. (FRLG determines initial seed at the continue screen, but that's another story)
Another notable thing is that all gen 3 GBA games will change the seed to your TiD when you begin a new game. So you can use that to soft reset in a "safer" way within Emerald and dead battery RS.
Collector Togami some of this is new information to me, what I got about the seed is was found either right before or during production of this video from Bulbapedia because mostly I just wanted to let people know what is wrong with emerald but it's still huntable if you're smart about it. Because I have had a lot of people tell me they soft reset in Emerald and had no idea and I've had people tell me you can't find shinies in Emerald because of bad information. Thanks for correcting those couple things, very appreciated!
Any time. I research the RNG as a whole across all gens, so feel free to ask me if you want anything fact checked for your videos.
Collector Togami
Are you able to explain how the Zigzagoon can be shiny but the starter isn't whilst soft resetting?
I'm assuming its because the encounter values for both Pokemon aren't generated on the same frame - e.g Treecko values generated on frame 1, Zigzagoon frame 2? Or am I misunderstanding.
@@CollectorTogami you may never see this, but for HGSS if I’m hunting for shiny mewtwo with SR, what can I do to add more randomness? Like can I simply just sr and eventually get it or will I just be getting the same versions of mewtwo if I land on the same Frames?
@@CollectorTogamiso in your opinion if I’m trying to collect all shiny legendaries in Emerald (using pomeg glitch) is it worth resetting until I get either a shiny uncatchable zigzagoon or starter to make it “easier” to get all of the shiny legendaries via SRs or is it *almost* irrelevant and I should just keep doing RA encounters until I find the shiny one. Any help/information is appreciated
so to sum this up
pokemon emerald
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SR 50 times
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If Fail > Reset Game
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If Shiny Zigzagoon, keep resetting
V
If not shiny zigzagoon in 50 SR's Reset
amirite?
N2N1
Correction in the order a bit:
Going for starters (if dead battery R/S replace zigzagoon with poochyena)
50 Soft resets
V
No shiny zigzagoon, restart save
V
Shiny zigzagoon, keep save, keep SRing
V
Shiny starter
But I've also done a video on that too, I'll get the link for you
N2N1 if you want to do it with better chances of getting the starter, do it as I show in this video ruclips.net/video/5zxc0ReT-zs/видео.html
what about runing away and going back in the battle for electrode or sudowoodu legendarys ect?
Actually found this very helpful! I've always struggled to fully grasp the specifics of Emerald's broken RNG, and what exactly was huntable in it so. Great video! c:
xBlackthornWolfx yay! I'm glad I could help, and thank you :D
I'm so happy to see people do understand all this lingo, I feel so dumb as a Pokémon fan specially with Gen 3 being my favorite....and I don't truly understand this video, but I just know not to try and reset for shinies on my Emerald cartridge just to avoid eternal misery.
First 30 seconds shows more shinies than I've found in my entire life.
DaSheepKiller lol I've been around for a while
ShinyCollector98 / For how long you've been around you don't have enough subs. Also you've found so many shinies on this channel, while on mine I've found 2, which I didn't even hunt for.
DaSheepKiller yeah not a lot of subs, but not too few either. My channel has had rapid growth lately, I started the year around 1800
ShinyCollector98 Besides the shiny Roggenrola I found recently, my luck is bad with shinies. (and RUclips too because I've never experienced rapid growth lol)
First 2 seconds shows more than I've ever found in a game other than pokemon go
Damn so Vincento's shiny Rayquaza in a SPEEDRUN on first try is incredibly rare
Mega Rayquaza911 nope
Nope since he is a speedrunner, he is basically resetting the game everytime he attempts a speedrun...
@Rayquaza911 he might have known something ahead of time.
if i have a dead internal battery in ruby and i got a shiny starter can i SR for the legendary or is there something i need to do?
Yep! A dry battery in R/S makes the RNG behave like Emerald’s. So as long as you selected the starter quickly and had a dry battery when you got the shiny, then you have an early shiny frame, which can be used for SR’ing other targets
Good video LJ. Very much needed and I hope it'll do some good in ending the Emerald stigma that's in the community.
Sonikkts I hope so too, it would be great to see more people hunt in it!
So I soft reset on my emerald on gba 50 times max ?
I caught a shiny Treecko whilst watching. Blessed video
Congrats!
My friend found a shiny numel while I was watching but he killed it 😭
@@210_SRT bahaha
I'm soooo confused. I've been hunting for a shiny mudkip starter by soft resetting and have already gotten 11 shiny poochyenas yet no mudkip.... is there a mistake I'm making and that I have no chance to get it with my current framed or am I just really unlucky? plz help me. is there a way to calculate it?
Yes you can get it. Because you're seeing mudkip I assume you're hunting in Ruby/Sapphire rather than Emerald. Is the battery dead or alive? If it's alive you're just very unlucky. If it's dead you're literally 1 frame of all of those times from getting your shiny starter. So you aren't doing anything wrong and either way, yes you can get the shiny. Best of luck, hope this eloped but if you're still confused please tell which part(s) you need clarification on.
*helped
Not eloped.
ShinyCollector98 thank you for replying. the internal battery is dead. but can u help me understand something? if I keep on getting one frame off, how long would I have to wait or be ahead to make sure it won't end up a poochyena? if that's not what needs to be done, am I just being really unlucky?
CrappyDuelist 5 15 20 you literally only needed to be 1/60th of a second faster. So that's not much to be off by, not much that you can really try to make a difference, keep going at the pace you are and you will end up getting the starter when you accidentally go 1/60th faster
ShinyCollector98 thank you. it'll be my first time having a shiny as my starter and I had no idea how tough it is with the RNG broken. thx for your help!
The bit about the battle recorder is news to me, very interesting. Has this been proven?
Also, I thought it might be helpful to note that keeping your gameboy on for as long as possible while random encountering (keeping it plugged in even when not hunting) helps to keep the odds a bit more consistent. Most people probably only hunt for an hour or two a day, which, in theory, would restrict you to 25-50 shiny frames. Of course, you could potentially have even fewer to work with during the first 1-2 hour interval. Jumping around those same frames every hunting session is limiting in that access to shiny frames past those bounds is prevented.
Think of it like this: A particular file may only contain 20 shiny frames within the first 2 hours, but a cumulative 80 within the first 4. The odds would be much lower within the 2 hour interval (1/21,600) than within all 4 hours (1/10,800). You can never know for sure how bountiful in shiny frames your spread is within any given interval of time (unless you use RNG Reporter which would defeat the purpose), so it's better to be safe than sorry.
So yeah, the longer your game is on, the more natural your chances will be.
A different pokemon youtuber/shiny hunter told me about the battle recorder exploit and used a program to show the actually frame and how it skips, but I haven't seen anyone hunt using it successfully.
Yeah this does make sense, but 20 frames isn't bad, and the frames might only be 1/21,600 if divided like that, but it's still technically 1/8192 just poor luck when generating in that fram (not necessarily explaining this for you, but for others that might read this and get confused) but likewise leaving it on for a bit might give you a worse span for frames, I guess really the best bet would be to vary back and forth between leaving it on and going from the start every now and again. Good insight though, definitely a good point to think about.
So I just got a shiny tentacool 30min into hunting for a feebas, my Emeralds battery is dry, so basically with my rng I just need to stay encountering the same patch of grass until one pops up?
Hey!
Do I need to leave my game on if I want to random encounter in emerald without getting rng clones?
Can I just boot up my pokemon emerald and start random encountering for a shiny without issue?
thank you so much for your time
You don’t need to leave it on for the whole hunt, you should be good to just random encounter
So, every day I can boot up Pokemon Emerald and begin looking for sableye in granite cave and I dont have to worry about encountering the same pokemon? Im worried that every time I turn on my game Im just encountering the same pokemon @@shinycollector
Like, can I turn my game off and turn it on the next day and hunt without worrying about hitting the same frames as the day before?@@shinycollector
@@louisroth5941 yessir
@@shinycollector thank you
This video is still confusing. I've been soft resetting for a Shiny Groudon in Ruby for two weeks now on a dry battery. I did some test catches and found that it has different natures and IVs each time. So does that mean I can still find a Shiny, or have I been wasting my time?
You’ve been wasting time. A few might have different stats because frames are on 1/60 of a second intervals. However, you’ll at most find the same one or two hundred Groudon, and will most likely not have a shiny frame within those 100-200
Does dead battery ruby and sapphire have this problem?
Please watch the video :)
@@shinycollector sorry i watched it before but couldn’t remember! Was hoping someone would just lmk 😆
I didn’t know it before and was soft resetting for Latias, i got really lucky 😂
brilliant video LJ, about time someone finally covered emerald's RNG regarding shiny hunting
wojeh thanks Wojeh! And yeah I agree 😂
Great video man. Been k/o ing linoones nonestop and not beimg able to understand the rng and how it worked gave me real bad hopes. So, odds do still repeat and do not just happen within a certain time window of leaving the game on if i am understanding your explanatiom fully.
I don’t fully get how you’re trying to word it, you lost me.
Frames wouldn’t repeat unless you turn it off/on, but even if you do, it’s not likely you’d hit many repeats. Each frame is 1/60 of a second, so hitting the same ones accidentally would be rare
The way I think about it is, you want to try to play for longer periods of time if possible and vary the windows of time you play from after the game loads. You’re more likely to hit repeat frames if you, say, play for only 5 minutes every time, since you’ll only have that range of frames to hit
I was playing though emerald again and I went to cut though some grass to avoid some trainers and the first Pokemon I ran into was a shiny numel
joe parks that's awesome! Numel has a great shiny sprite!!!
So I’m safe to hunt for a shiny duskull through egg hatching right? I’m just looking for some sort of validation because all these videos have me hesitant about continuing my hunt.
Ye, you’d be fine
I'm currently going after mew (RA's) even after doing a bunch of research on this subject, and watching the video, I'm still confused about the frames. and I know the answer is right in front of me, but I'm still lost. do the frames reset each time you turn the game on and off and save?
Zack Kazyak no, each time you turn it on, it starts from the same frame as the previous time regardless of saving.
Zack Kazyak the only thing that would make the frames start different is starting a new game
ShinyCollector98 thanks man! so basically the only thing that changes is the seed correct?
Zack Kazyak frames are just time markers. 1/60th of a second is how long a frame is. Same thing with videos as you've probably heard more often (60 fps) it means sixty frames per second so 1/60th of a second is one frame. Just a time marker for us. The seed starts at a constant, 0. And then the seed moves up per each frame, frame 1 is 0, frame 2 is 1, and so on. If the other factors in the formula are the same, the only variable is the seed, which is a constant based on time. So the seed does change, but the formula in the end is the same. The same factors stay. The factors will only change once you start a new game then ID and Secret ID in the formula change from the previous game file, however throughout the new games whole play through they stay constant to the new formula. So the seed does change the farther into the game you play, but when you start up the game next time, it'll start from the same starting point.
ShinyCollector98 gotcha, thanks for the help!!
Does anyone have a guess as to why they made Emerald this way? Was it just an oversight or did they want to put less strain on the battery or something?
Great video LJ! I think this will help a lot of hunters out! Would definitely be interested in seeing more videos like this from you :)
YourFriedBread thanks Brendan, it means a lot!
3:32 "Everything as of yet said also applies to pokemon ruby and sapphire with a dead internal battery". So this means that if ruby and sapphire didn't have a dead internal battery it would be like any other game? Also, if I were to have a pokemon emerald gave without a dead internal battery, would it be any different from the things in the video?
Emerald, regardless of battery life, acts like this
And more or less yes about ruby/sapphire. A lot of the games have their own unique RNG, but yeah it’s not “broken” if they have a live battery for R/S.
Important Info I feel this video didn't point out:
Soft reseting does not reset your frame count. To reset your frames completely to the beginning, you must Hard reset. (shut down your GBA)
Frames start counting down as soon as you start the game up. (meaning frames are counting in the title screen)
For random encounters, certain shiny frames only work with specific pokemon, using something called "Encounter slots."
Example:
If Duskull is in Encounter slot 1, and Shuppet is in Encounter slot 2, and the shiny frame is linked with Encounter slot 2, then you can only find a shiny Shuppet on that specific frame. In order to get a shiny Duskull, you'd have to find a different shiny frame that is linked with Encounter slot 1.
In every area of the game where you can find Pokemon, there are exactly 18 encounter slots, even in an area like Mt. Pyre that only has 2 Pokemon.
when i record a shiny encounter battle and then over and over i would get every time im in this frame a shiny right
Yes, the same frame gives a shiny every time. But this is hard to do unless you try to hit the same frame.
I played through emerald 3 times and never found a shiny and i basically still havent found one
I'm playing Emerald on an emulator on my phone and it says the internal battery has run dry. Does this affect my chances of encountering shinies or something? Btw im not a shiny hunter
I don't think so, if the internal battery has run dry, then you cannot grow berries
@@carsonschill1635 thx a lot. I think that is right. I havnt noticed my
Berries growing.
Damn my ruby's battery is dry... oh well, at least I can do Random encounters
ShinyCollector98, I really do commend you for making this video. Also I am really excited for it too. The reason is that back in 2008-2009 I've came up with this theory and even written a guide to easily get a shiny. But since I was only 14 and didn't think anyone would be interested in an old version of Pokémon, I jus tossed the notes into my collection/personal notes pile. I want to thank you for proving this (even if its years later). For now any thing I come up with I'll share instead of keeping it a secret. I also hope you do well in all future endeavors. Keep up the good work.
Icon Gone Solo actually I didn't prove that it was broken, that's been proven for many years. I just proved that it shouldn't be feared to hunt in Emerald
What if your copy of Emerald has a dead internal battery? Does that change any of this at all?
Gilbert Bends doesn't change any of this for Emerald
While breeding in emerald does the everstone effect shiny chance the way that synchronize does?
Does it?
@@austinbearden2789 I have zero experience and don't fully grasp this whole process/thing, but to answer your question, yes, I recently read that it does "make things more complicated".
But I'm still skeptical about this xD if not for the trick itself, for whether it's worth it or not... Shiny hunting in general is more of a source of hate/frustration in the old versions, with or without rng tricks... I'm losing my hope and questioning my hobbies every time I shiny hunt, even if in the end I somehow get one (well, it still has a dreadful nature and/or stats, usually, so...).
Currently going for a shiny Zig on both Emerald and SoulSilver, but no luck for 2-3 months now...
Hmmm you meant it in a positive way, right? I had to watch another video to (partially) get that you use synchronizers to force a shiny frame.
Man, I don't know then (the guide I watched/read that mentioned the everstone messes up things was saying it makes the egg less likely to be shiny, for some reason, but didn't state any details). I wish it did/does force shiny frames, I guess... Could convince me to go through all these, maybe.
I found my secret ID so I'm using a synchronize pokemon to find shiny and it works. I don't understand if the pokemon that I encounter at the specific "early shiny frame" can change or not.
If I receive an egg on a shiny frame, is that egg shiny when it hatches?
I believe shininess is generated when the daycare man gets the egg
DANMIT SUNKERN IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
i found a shiny zigzag, do i try to go for the same frame again?
So the game skips frames between the starter and zigzagoon.
Basically, aim your resets for about 2.3 seconds after when you picked the starter on that one
@@shinycollector it's always 2,3?
@@Pootzauk yep
Hi, I replaced the dry battery from my zapphire game, does this now mean that it's back to normal? Or is it once the battery has run dry once the shiny hunting will be affected forever? I want a shiny Beldum :c
Starchy AT in sapphire replacing the battery should make it back to normal, good luck on Beldum!
Hello, I want to shiny hunt trapinch in pokemon emerald via random encounters. I also want to attempt to synchronize adamant onto it. I have read you are free to random encounter and not worry about shiny frames but I'm not sure about synchronizing. Should I bother trying to synchronize adamant onto a random encounter shiny or not? I heard it ruins the odds. Can you answer this for me please. Thanks :)
Yeah it can either positively or negatively effect your odds. It’s best to avoid sync
See, Emerald isn't a scary place to hunt ... gosh guys. -_- Oh, wait! I was one of those scary hunters too. LOL Thanks for clearing things up LJ.
Thy Foamy no problem, it was a lot of fun to make, and will do! Thanks Foamy!
I’m trying to get a shiny Mudkip in emerald. So to get it I need to SR 50 times, then make a new save file but then what do I do after with that save file ?
Can you soft reset if your game doesn't have a workin internal battery. It says after that click. Based events won't happen. Thanks.
Da Chef no, In Emerald you can never soft reset unless you do the starters like I said, or the battle video like I said. In Ruby and Sapphire you can normally soft reset, but not with a dry battery
ShinyCollector98 Can you still find shinies by random encounters and run aways?
Da Chef okay now I know you're just messing with me because I spend the whole video explaining that one.
ShinyCollector98 Sorry about saying RE. I am planning on hunting raquaza and wanted to ensure I wasn't going to waste time. I wasn't sure if a RA was the same as the RE! Thanks for all of your help!
Is this the reason why even though I had an everstone on a jolly nature seedot in the daycare, not a single jolly nature seedot was hatched even though it's supposed to be a 50% chance to get jolly on the baby seedot?
Nah
How do I kill my enternal battery?
it dies on its own after a few years
ShinyCollector98 ok I bought one where they fixed it
Link 22 okay that's good
ShinyCollector98 yoooo It's death xD
BDW do you have a gen 3 RNG repoter that you could send me??
Any tips on getting shiny deoxyes am shiny hunting it now and I have my gameboy on all the time should I be in the battle or on the island when I want to take a break ?
so can i RunAway hunt for shiny rayquaza??
EnderMelon yes you can
Taylor Cason go to description to find my other video on that
Hi there question I've had for a while if I reset my pokemon games with new save files each reset as emerald has a fixed seed and then my pokemon ruby and pokemon sapphire both have dry batteries also resulting in fixed seed if I just start a brand new game each individual reset will that be something that would prevent me from running into the same frames as its a new individual save file each time?
I’m gonna keep it a stack, I can barely understand what you’re asking.
Initial seed is a constant in Emerald as well as Dead Battery R/S. New save won’t change your seed, but it’ll change your TID & SID giving you different PID rolls
@@shinycollector ok thank you so much!
Wait, so I'm shiny hunting Mew in an Emerald emulator (through RAs) and haven't found a shiny throughout the rest of the game. does this mean it's impossible to get a shiny mew (considering I don't know the shiny frame)?
Yes
I’ve hunted for my shiny starters in emerald and found two torchic’s... so what does that mean?
Yea what you mean? :O
I found a completely random shiny geodude last night on emerald on my gba sp! I think that’s only the second or third shiny in my life. Pretty sure I’ve encountered other shinies throughout the years but I probably accidentally killed them
That’s dope, congrats on the Geodude!
so what happens to shinys in pokemon saphire when the battery runs dry are you still able to get them.
I said what happens in the video. It acts like Emerald. I said you can find them wild, but not soft reset for them.
I was trying to get a shiny roselia from the daycare with a shiny ditto, but if this video its telling the true, there's not a chance to get a shiny roselia? plx help
WobbuffetBoy that's not at all true. You can hatch shinies in Emerald, basically what this video says is you just can't soft reset shinies in Emerald. I recommend stocking 3 or more boxes full of eggs before turning off the game. Then save with the eggs and hatch them at leisure. Repeat this until you get it as a shiny
WobbuffetBoy but your odds are 1/8192. For Rosalia it's much faster if you random encounter. Having a shiny parent won't affect it in the slightest. And keep in mind this video is only applicable to emerald (and Ruby Sapphire if they have a dead battery), not any other game
So I've been hatching eggs in pokemon sapphire for a shiny Eevee, the internal battery isn't dead. how does that frame stuff apply to eggs?
With good battery r/s you’re chillin
@@shinycollector Thanks man, good thing i replaced the thing before I started, cause its been slightly over 280 hours trying
So this Problem Effects also Natures and IV ? I habe been breeding for a Jolly Sceptile, and I seem to get always alot of of the Same Natures but after 5 Boxes not a single Jolly one. Might this be the reason or am i just unlucky?
you are just unlucky. if you stock up about 2 or 3 boxes without turning the game off, then you can save and turn it off at your leisure and hatch them, you should definitely have the right nature by then, unless one of the parents is holding the everstone.
@@shinycollector if I synchronize for a naughty nature while breeding will I never find a shiny unless I have a naughty shiny frame?
I got a shiny rayquaza on my 2nd soft reset in emerald. I was playing on an emulator so idk if that changes anything.
You got lucky and have an early shiny frame, most of the time people won’t have one until a minute or so in at least
Started playing emerald on an emulator some time ago. I already got 2 shinies without even trying oml 😂
Wild
I'm looking for a shiny ralts in a pokemon mmo
I get in fire red yesterday random shiny xD and today game corner shiny after looking 180 pokemon.
I play Pokemon Ruby with a Dry Battery, i want to shinyhunt groudon, so i cant get it with the dry battery with soft resets?
Correct, you cannot get it with a dry battery and soft resets.
And unfortunately, they don’t respawn in RS like they do in Emerald, so you cannot do runaways either.
You’d have to change the battery and then do soft resets, thankfully it’s fairly easy and there are many guides for it on YT, I’m sure you can find one easily :)
I dont have the reaction speed to follow that sign as it falls XD
Its been 4 years ago so i won't get a reply probably but how does it work on the emerald on the Nintendo ds xl? Can i just soft reset or do i have to reset the whole saved data after 50 reset?
It’s probably still broken. It’s just emulating the game on it, yeah?
@@shinycollector Thanks for the reply my Dude
my first shiny ever rayquaza
onyx1186 rayquaza is a crazy cool one to have as a first shiny!
Hey man, did you get shiny rayquaza on an emerald version ? And how did you reset it ? Soft reset or can you flee again and again ?
Mine was a blue nose Diglet. I didn't know what shinys were at the time but I caught it anyway because it was cool looking.
so, emerald, even with a working battery, has a seed of 0, and ruby and sapphire with a dead battery have a seed of 0? and only ruby and sapphire with working batteries have changing seeds?
The initial seed in R/S with a dead battery isn’t 0, it’s 5A0, but yes it’s a consistent initial seed.
Works the same though, you have it down in concept!
@@shinycollector thanks
Thanks for a nice video on this! I'm sure it'll help a lot of hunters. I personally don't wish to hunt in Emerald cus the game is so expensive now but I know several people still want to.
SH- Clockwork yeah it's definitely expensive, around 35 on average. Thanks for the compliment :D
do i need to readjust my timing if i have the dry battery message at the beginning? . im trying to rng abuse my latios on emerald and is taking forever.
0:36 NOSTALGIA OVERLOOOOAAAADDDD
Never thought you would have a reply in two years i wonder if you still use youtube
alright so im soft resetting for shiny starter, making new save file after 60 resets. if i shut the game off at say, 30 soft resets, do i need to make another save next time i boot up the game? or am i good to boot up game and keep going until i hit 60 and then make a new save.
@@lunaria_annua you’d be good to come back and finish your set. But for a bit more detail on that hunt, I highly recommend the video in the pinned comment
Good luck!!
@@shinycollector awesome, ty. im at 3360 rn, just wanted to make sure i was doing it right
0:40 video start
Ken Mendoza 🤷🏽♂️
So that shiny zigzagoon I caught meant I could have had a shiny starter if i went through it at a slightly different speed?
If it was one you caught and now the uncatchable one, no
got here from yourfriedbread :)
LitSalandit Brendan? What a guy!
Me too
LitSalandit same
Same
is there a delay for fishing? i cant seem to hit my shiny frame at all, but on land i always hit it less than 5 minutes
even to this day im salty as fuck that i ran into a shiny machoke on victory road in what ever version of pokemon it was that had wally you know the kid that they gave that bad ass music track too when they did the remake lol but anyway ended up hitting a fucking crit on it and killed it >.>
nightshadow RIP that's one of the worst ways to fail a shiny, you can do everything right but RNGesus gives, and then RNGesus takes.
Hey collector, I have a shiny wingull from ruby and Ruby's internal battery has run dry so can I still SR for a shiny rayquaza??? Sorry if this is confusing because this is new to me....
No you can't. As I say in this video, REs can get you s shiny, but SRs can't.
Seriously why do all D-tier poketubers have a still inanimate drawing of themselves they probably got from deviant art?
TheGrandRevo Get a life kid.
Real mature
TheGrandRevo you’re one to be talking lmfao
I was asking a question ...
if random encountering in emerald is okay, does that mean that egg hunting is also okay?
Yep!
When you have a 40 second intro....
No u
You have a better intro now thought...
And I like it btw
I have a Ruby with a dead internal battery and I have been shiny hunting for a starter, I now know about this broken rng so I won't waste any more time. If I wanted this shiny indefinitely how would I do it? Make a new saved file, encounter 50 torchic and then delete and make a new file? then keep repeating that? So essentially do 50 SR's then make a new file, 50 SR's then make a new file etc etc
You sound like missingnoxpert 😭😭😭
Still subbed to him :]
Can I still do run aways on emerald if my internal battery has ran dry. For example I’m trying to shiny hunt for mew on emerald on my Japanese copy of emerald but the internal battery is dry. Will this effect my chance of finding a shiny?
No it won’t effect. You can do RunAways
ShinyCollector thank you for the information.
Ur the only RUclips who Pins comments
Will I get pinned?
no.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL
I cant run from the fight since my pokemon lvl are to low. To counter this i bought 99 fluffy tails. My question is: can i soft reset the game after i used up all fluffy tails and still have all the chances in the world? since a shiny frame comes up every 2,5-3min?
Edit.: I need around 45minutes to run dry on fluffy tails and have to reset.
You could, but I’d recommend something way simpler: catch a poochyena from the first route. It has the runaway ability. No need to soft reset or use fluffy tails or anything crazy
@@shinycollector Allright, i'd not expect such a fast answer under a vid from 2017 or a answere at all!
Thx for the help chief!
disliked for the long-ass intro
Flaming Biscuits oh watch out, we have a real hot shot over here
coulda used that energy to fast forward, lil bitch.
I like it
So basically the frame starts at 0 everytime I turn on the game and I have the chance to find a shiny every 2.5-3 minutes?
honestly, your intro is bad
5macgames channel yeah I got that a lot on this one, I have a new one now that most people seem to like
Wouldn’t it be funny if when the battery ran dry, it became the complete opposite of what happens to R/S and it becomes perfectly normal to hunt on
CloudySkies17695 no
So if I want to shiny hunt a Mudkip starter, I have to reset the entire game file every 50 encounters to get one?
Pretty much, there’s a more thorough guide in the pinned comment
Hey i just wanted to sum it up for me and hope for Feedback because i Was watching many Videos now. So if i want a shiny rayquaza (im playing on a emulator) i just have to Re Do the battle over and over again with running from it and re-enter the Room, and after like a given amount of tries i should SR and try again? I also wanted to ask if i shouldnt fast forward during the hunt because of more frames being skipped, Thanks in advance! have learned a lot from your Videos :)
You got that mostly right, but you don’t need to soft reset after any amount of tries, in fact you really shouldn’t because then you’re bringing it back to just your early frames instead of hitting new ones. And speeding up is up to you, I’d say not to do it because you don’t get the same feeling of earning of the shiny, but it doesn’t effect the hunt much
@@shinycollector Thank you! I almost lost hope, ill try harder now, appreciate the quick answer :)
Grey Patrick no problem, good luck!
how would I know if I have an early shiny frame if I don't get it a shiny in 50 resets
You don’t, that’s why you start a new save and do another 50
you said this applies to ruby and sapphire as well if their battery has run out? so I can't random encounter in ruby/sapphire without reseting every 50 encounters?
That’s not quite what I said, please rewatch the video and listen carefully
I'm really confused. So I want to find shinies in the wild. Could I soft reset for those.. or do I just keep going through encounters? I dont know what to do..
@@redpineapplee700 you wouldn’t soft reset for shinies in the wild anyways.
I think you’re confusing yourself a bit. Just encounter. I literally say in the video that you’re safe to do random encounters
I am so confused. So new to this all. A friend of mine gave me ruby and the internal battery is dry. Been Soft resetting for a shiny Torchic. What exactly do I need to do?
Replace the battery
@@shinycollector will that just make it so I can SR for shinys? No hassle with frames?
dacrow33 for ruby yes
@@shinycollector Okay. Just bought a battery and screw driver for the cartridge off ebay. Thanks again.
im doing the method where you run from a legendary, im doing rayquaza and i feel like it will never happen because i havnt seen a shiny in all my 27 hours in and emerald is broken
It’s 1/8192, it’ll take a while
On my nitendo ds it says battery has run dry BUT can i still catch shineys? I wanna sr with groundon pls help
I know I am late but in conclusion with my emerald copy I can soft reset for a shiny starter if I don’t have a dead battery ? Or it doesn’t matter if I have a dead battery or not in emerald because I need a shiny frame ? Any info helps thanks .
The latter was accurate. Click the link in the pinned comment for a guide
@@shinycollector thank you for the response after further watching your great video again I concluded to just buy a ruby copy with a working battery . And keep trying in emerald . It will be worth it . Thank you for the response look forward to new videos later this year .
I have come such a long way from this comment currently have a shiny frame 29.6 secs in thanks for everything
I am so confused, I have recently bought a new emerald version and have been soft resetting for hours (2000+ times) I have encountered 2 shiny zigzagoons but no shiny treecko? Do I need to keep making new save files every 50 soft resets ?
FS FIFA you probably accidentally reached a little further out into frames on those zigzagoons by accident, if you can pinpoint how long those resets took I'd say keep the save and aim for that, otherwise yes, reset the save every 50 or so soft resets
ShinyCollector98 I have now encountered 4 zigzagoons but all about 2 hrs apart. The 1st zigzagoon was encountered after about 3 hours. If I do make new save files and do 50 encounters, what happens when I encounter a Zigzagoon in the 50 soft resets ?
FS FIFA just aim for the same speed. And what do you mean hours apart? It's supposed to be from as soon as the game starts up after the main menu, not from when you turn it on. And if you've got 4 now I'd definitely say keep that save, that means you have an early shiny frame and every time you got zigzagoon, you were 1/60 second off from a shiny starter
FS FIFA so likewise, if you do, although you shouldn't now, reset a save every 50, then keep that save once it finds a shiny zigzagoon because you're barely off
My Pokémon Ruby has a dry internal battery, but I was still able to find a shiny Treeko and a shiny Groudon. How is this possible?
AnUpnorthGamer you have an early shiny frame
Can i ask a quick question.I habe 2 copies of leaf green and 2 gameboys sp should i shiny hunt a starter using both at the same time
Pika-Win!! Yeah sure, why not
I have some questions: Will the shiny frame always be the same frame every time from resetting?
Is there always a shiny frame in every 8192 frames?
Because if those two things are true, wouldn't it make it easier to shiny hunt in Pokemon Emerald by finding the shiny frame and making sure you always get encounters on that frame
Neefew _ yes they always appear in the same sequential order they originally appear in. No there isn't a frame per every 8192. Sometimes you'll go 50,000 without one (just like when shiny hunting). And yes you can still locate your frames. People do this and it's called RNG abuse. It abuses a glitch in the game and is seen by most people as illegitimate. Yes it makes it easier, however not everyone likes taking the easy way out. This is kind of the same difference of mindstate about it between methods hunter and full odds hunters I suppose, but this scenario also throws in a factor of ethics of abusing a game's glitch.
Thank you for the information about such common misconceptions! I, personally, had backed away from Emerald hunting because I never knew about the shiny frames frequenting every 3 or so minutes like you mentioned. I definitely look forward to getting into Emerald again to give hunting there a try!
BottleRocket13 best of luck! And yeah until I thought about how often the frames occur I've been iffy about hunting in emerald as well
Thank you and best of luck on your hunting, as well! Thank you for hosting this upcoming ISHC, as well! Looking forward to it!
BottleRocket13 so am I, I'm excited!