When making this video I did not realize that the ability No Guard was introduced in generation 4! So you can’t use it to get a higher encounter rate in emerald!
@ThedomiNation In ShinyCollector's gen 1 video from 4 years ago, he lists that *_legendaries, gift pokemon, fishing encounters, in-game trades, and glitch pokemon_* can be shiny hunted in gen 1. Your video doesn't mention that despite your gift dratini gen1. Has that changed since his or your video for whatever reason?
@@hisaceinthehole3426 6:35 my video does mention this. I didn’t speak about the npc trades but I put it in text in the video at the same time I’m mentioning what Pokémon can be shiny in gen 1. I did not mention the mew glitch Pokémon at that’s a more obscure way to shiny hunt and the legality can vary depending on the Pokémon you’re hunting
@@ThedomiNATION I have Pokemon Ruby with a dry battery. Can I still try the run away method for the legendaries there, or does that only work in Emerald?
I'll never forget spending a week knocking out 999 Hatenna without finding a shiny then gave up and proceeded to start hatching with getting the shiny after only 11 eggs 😂😂
My first masuda method shiny I went wayyyyyyyy over odds hunting for weeks it hatched on the bus in public I had to suppress my excitement for my first ever shiny encounter on purpose everything I ever got was full odds like my first ever shiny encounter ever Zubat
Learned about illuminate increasing encounter rate through this, which is definitely helping me on my full odds Ursaring wild hunt in Soul Silver. Thanks so much in general too, I only really got into shiny hunting a couple years ago and majorly over the past year, and your vids have been a major source of inspiration, encouragement, and useful info. I've learned a lot from you! My first and most treasured Shiny still is my Azumarill from gen 3 Sapphire, which I just happened on randomly as a Marill while in a movie theater. It was dark and i had missed the shiny flash, it looked slightly different from usual so I just took a chance and chucked a ball at it. The theater went completely dark for the movie after I saved, I did not get to see if it was shiny until the end, and imagine my surprise when it was! Once again, thanks and keep it up!
I hope you guys enjoy this! For anyone wanting to get into shiny hunting or maybe those who just want more info on certain methods, here is my full guide on how to shiny hunt in EVERY GENERATION of Pokemon! What are some of your guys favorite shiny Pokemon that you've found?
My favorite shiny is easily my shiny Delphox, as that was my longest hunt spanning over 9 months as a starter during Pokémon Y. It took me slightly over odds and was a fun experience but I’d never do one with that long of a reset again!
That’s insane! The XY starter resets are brutal and that whole shiny line is amazing! One day I may muster up the courage to try for one but not anytime soon 😅
The Skill Swap/Trick method in USUM can be done even better by having a Harvest Trevenant with both moves and a Leppa berry, so that you don't need to split up the task between two Pokémon. It's what I use in USUM for my shiny hunts for legendary Pokémon. I then switch out to Primal Groudon to get permanent sun that will guarantee the activation of Harvest. That, and having a Synchronizing Pokémon out in front that can use Thunder Wave turn 1, followed by a Pokémon with False Swipe to whittle down the shinies' HP, makes for a very strong shiny hunting team in USUM!
I am what I'd consider to be a master of the Gen 4 Poke Radar with what is nearing 3 boxes of the possible 8 boxes worth of unique shinies available in Gen 4 and while it wasnt perfect, the Gen 4 Poke Radar section was beautifully explained and remarkably in depth It goes into detail on many aspects people dont mention in other tutorials such as: - Aggressive grass having the poke radar exclusive pokemon - The exact percentages of grass patches - Catching pokemon adds a flat 10% to whatever grass patch you go into being the correct species - Mentioning and explaining that shinies are guaranteed to continue your chain and a ton of other advice which was very impressive Particularly mentioning the superstition of 4, 4 / 0, 4 / 4, 0 having higher odds of breaking your chain and using the bike breaks your chain was amazing to see mentioned I believe that its likely true but so unbelievably minor that you should not bother avoiding those patches ever There were a few things that were left unexplained: - How edge patches break the chain - Why walking a certain distance breaks your chain - How objects with grass tiles affect your chain For example an npc on the first route or the sign in the post game island route beneath stark mountain I will explain what wasn't to the best of my ability in the replies to this comment I really wish this was filmed with a capture card with crisp footage so itd be easier to see the grass patches but otherwise everything unmentioned wasnt essential just something curious players will be thinking about So take it from a pro, you did a fantastic job!!!
|< EDGE PATCHES >| Afaik, if you are on an edge with, let's say, 3 patches missing in the first ring around you There is a 3/8 chance for your chain to break from no grass patches spawning This means: - Corner patches are generally a 5/8 chance to break your chain - Edge patches are generally a 3/8 chance to break your chain - The patch you made an example of at 31:35 is a 1/8 chance to break your chain, making it usable on lower chains if you're willing to take the risk - Shiny patches on the edge are still likely to break chains and do not affect the odds of continuing the chain beyond guaranteeing the correct pokemon I am unsure as to how reseting nearby another seperate patch of grass works with edge resets but grass patches do not need to be in touching to spawn shaking grass tiles Theoretically, a singular grass tile with no grass around it in a ring surrounded by grass tiles everywhere else on screen may have a 100% chance of breaking your chain which i believe there is one somewhere in sinnoh but i will need to test that myself, its probably more complex than that
|< CHAIN BREAKS >| Your chain will break if: - The console is turned off - The game is soft reseted - The grass patch didnt result in the pokemon that begun the chain - The radar was reset on the edge by either manually reseting on the edge or entering a shaking grass patch on the edge - The player moves to a different area, whether in a building or a different route without a loading zone - You move any grass patch off screen in any way I'd like to note for this one specifically how to avoid it Generally staying within a 5 x 5 or even a 6 x 6 grid of where you last reset the poke radar will never break your chain If every grass patch is in a line directly to the left of the player, then moving more than 4 tiles to the right will break your chain Hypothetically, if the four patches are as close to you as possible diagonally, then you would have the most distance possible to move away from the chain This is something you need to get a feel for It comes with experience
|< MISCELLANEOUS THINGS FOR WEIRDOS LIKE ME >| Any object that can not overlap with the grass tile is considered a wall tile and, as a result, make any grass patches neighbouring it in a ring an edge tile Examples include: - Trees - Ledges - Any tiles that would be considered map tiles Objects capable of overlapping with grass tiles will not function as edge tiles These include - All Npcs - The sign on the sign on the route below stark mountain
Really informative video. I knew a lot of this information but it was still a lot of fun to see how shiny hunting has changed over the years. I did learn something new though! Thanks for the guide on soft resetting the strong spawns I have now gotten 4 while waiting for space time distortions on my other switch.
I like dexnav method in oras as a meditative time skip, and I believe that the main factor to increase your chance to find a shiny is your search level, and 50'th encounter just boosts your chance that is based on your search level, and 100'th boosts it even more. So if, lets say, you have search level 999, then every encounter 1-49 and 51-99 will have same chances to find shiny. It's hard to chain 5+ in a cave, so I just purposely break my chain at this point and start from the beginning.
Small tip for the PokeRadar in Gen 4: On the app that keeps track of your chains, keep an eye on the top number counting your mon BEFORE you go into a patch. You will know right away if your chain breaks because the count will disappear before the mon shows up. EDIT: you can actually see it at 37:23 before the Bidoof breaks it. Look at the top of the bottom screen of the DS.
Yep! But I hate looking at the bottom screen for it to spoil the result! I swear I never look at it and it keeps the chain and the one time I look at it, I see the current chain go away 😂
Thanks for the guide! One of my favorite shinies that I've caught has to be the Rayquaza I got in Ultra Sun at full odds. After around 5000 encounters, I accidentally soft reset over one, and became determined to reclaim it. After around 7000 more encounters I did just that, and when I eventually transferred him over to Shield, it turned out he was a square shiny! So I guess I reclaimed him with interest!
That’s awesome! I did the same thing in my ultra sun version actually. The shiny partner cap pikachu that was in the clips in my sword version, I actually failed after about 6,500 resets I reset over it, then reclaimed it after about 8,700 more resets later! Still one of my favorite shinies I have to this day!
@@tylerpinniger9958 I actually think it’s a 1/16 chance of squares, since all my other transferred shinies have stars. I know GO transfers are squares 100% of the time though
@@tylerpinniger9958 they actually aren’t! I transferred like 20 shinies from previous gens and only 2 were square sparkles! Only guaranteed if they’re from an event and are “found during a fateful encounter!”
Switch hunting sure has been confusing! I entirely understand the sentiment of only doing gens 1-8. Seeing as this was just uploaded, there's no way I could've watched it all. I know this will be very helpful though, going to be using this soon as I'm playing through X and Y. Thanks for all the research that went into this, it will be a resource I use for years to come!
Thank you! And yeah I really wanted to include Scarlet and violet in this but I figured I could wait until we knew exactly how shiny hunting works in those games! Plus it’s nice having all 8 generations that have all concluded as opposed to having some of gen 9!
Great video, thank you. One note regarding pokeradar chaining since there are so many misconceptions around this method as you have pointed out. I have done a couple hunts with it recently and there is also a very good guide on Smogon. Going for an edge piece does not have an inherent risk of just breaking your chain - the risk involved (when picturing the grid around the player character), is that after catching the pokemon the pokeradar choses 4 patches that are all outside of the current gras field. You can for example never be "too close to the edge" as was suggested in the video. Having even one patch of buffer around you will GUARANTEE that at least one patch will shake after the catch because the pokeradar will always chose a patch for 1 tile aways/2 tiles away/3 tiles away and 4 tiles away respectively. Given that resetting the radar reduces the chance of keeping your chain from 98 to 88 percent, I usually found it worthwhile just going for the edge piece if it was 4 tiles away. And after c. 20 shinies I don't think that I ever had my chain break after taking the edge patch (thats lucky in itself, but still). One can always roughly calculate how high the chance of breaking the chain is based on the position of the player character. For example, on a corner patch the chance of having all new patches outside the gras area is higher than on an edge patch in the middle of the gras.
I have found so many good shinies like salamence, gengar abd tyranitar by chaining them in platinum + you can get the exact nature and ability you want.
54:50 Trevenant has the hidden ability Harvest and can learn Trick & Skill Swap from TRs in SwSh (as well as from move tutors in USUM), making it the ideal Pokémon for this strat However, keep in mind that Skill Swap doesn't work on Pokémon with certain abilities (check Serebii for a full list), making it necessary to have a Pokémon holding a Leppa berry use Fling + Recover, as well as finding a way to heal the opposing Pokémon from the small amount of Fling damage, e.g. Heal Pulse
58:05 Important note: KOing a Pokémon gives the next random spawn a greater than 50% chance of being the same species as the KOed Pokémon, making it viable to continue KOing low spawn rate Pokémon, even past 500 The reason I say greater than 50% is because it varies based on the Pokémon's original spawn rate. The game divides in half the rate of all Pokémon for that area, & gives one half to the Pokémon you've just KOed. That way, KOing a Pokémon with a 1% spawn chance has a 50.5% chance of being the next spawn, but KOing a Pokémon with a 50% spawn chance would have a 75% chance of being the next spawn.
1:08:52 The Mew & Jirachi you get in Floarama Town as save data bonuses are shiny locked Other than all that, great video! An absolute must watch for new or experienced shiny hunters 😁😁
Man great video! I could tell you put in a lot of effort into it and it definitely got my like! I’d say my favorite shiny was my first shiny in sun and moon, after 5600 soft resets I finally got it and was ecstatic
58:26 you can do as the video creator says but I myself caught non brilliant shinies(two of them) while doing this. I'd say definitely check brilliant spawns for shiny, but also check non brilliant spawns as *they* can also be shiny.
Yeah. Actually testing this method compared to regular encounters. It turns out, you’ll hit odds faster if you’re not doing the method than if you were.
Last year I got myself a copy of Platinum to play through Sinnoh again. I didn't encounter one but TWO full odds shiny Pokemon without even looking for shinies and I managed to catch both. One was a yellow Floatzel in the victory road while using surf. The other was a golden Geodude in the mine of Oreburgh. That Geodude was probably the ~10th wild Pokemon I encountered in that playthrough. It blew my mind. Neither of them is one that I would have picked if given the choice, but I hold them very dearly now. They are like a lucky charm to me. 😄
To add on to the broken RNG from R/S/E if you want a way to randomize your seed interact with one of the paintings at the Lilycove contest hall. It will reseed your game to the current hex value of your frame. ie: frame 10 would reseed to 000A. So, just get into a random fight then run or beat it then talk to the painting.
Unfortunately if you do that and then soft reset your game, it’ll still go back to the usual frames. So I mean it could work if you really wanted to for random encounters or right before recording a battle video, but it wouldn’t make much of a difference for soft resets
I think my personal favourite hunt was Bruxish, where I restricted myself to fishing in USUM on Christmas Eve and Christmas day only. I wanted the Pokemon with a caught on 24th/25th of December. It took me about four years to finish that hunt, du ti the pretty limited time I had to hunt (my cousin's birthday is on Chrimas Eve and while I do have more tome on Christmas itself, I would still not be able to shiny hunt for more than 2-3 hours that day). My favourtie shiny over all must be a Tentacruel I got in USUM as well. I searched for Tentacruel since Gen 2 (2001), but it somehow never showed up, despite the line being one of the most commen pokemon in existence and me almost never using repels. Yet when I took up USUM to move from where I left the game to a spot to catch Bruxish the very first encounter on that day was a shiny Tenatcruel. Love her. Oh, and I once resetted for a Shiny Rayquaza in Emerald, long before GameFreak decided to hand this specific shiny out left and right. I'm still pissed to this day whenever there's a new distribution of that black dragon, because I kid you not, they started thos not even half a year after I finished my hunt. -.-
My first ever shiny was a dialga I got at full odds not even trying to hunt him so I named him 0 resets In brilliant diamond. I've played hundreds of hours in every single pokemon game before that without getting one, After that arceus gave me about 30
That’s crazy! I’ve had random shinies in Pokémon games but never one of the “one time only” Pokémon! It would be a dream to get a shiny starter or legendary first try without hunting!
Something for Gen 4… there’s trade Pokémon that are coded to have different languages of origin and you can breed them for Masuda Method hunts, the Magikarp that the guy who upgrades your dex will trade you in the Sinnoh games and Lt Surge’s French Pikachu in HGSS. In Diamond and Pearl ONLY, all the in game trades (except the German Magikarp) are functionally Japanese, meaning they are also usable for this, the Abra and Haunter are the only males so the only ones that you can use to get other Pokémon. (Source: Bulbapedia and a couple other places, but different places will say different things. I’d say Bulbapedia is reliable, because they also mention specifically if you trade the Diamond and Pearl in game trades to Platinum or HGSS you can get the Japanese Pokédex entries for those Pokémon, which is true)
I personally don’t know enough about it. On top of that I tend to exclude methods that are unintended that increase shiny odds like rng abuse. The only exception is the ditto glitch in gen 1 but I see that more as a tool to help hunt for gen 2 egg shinies rather than a method on its own
Great video there were somethings I didn't know about the legends arcus methods hunts. And some of my favorite shinys I got is shiny celebi in crystal VC first encounter shiny Mewtwo in the ultra wormhole and my Gen one Zapdos I just caught. Thanks for the content 😁
For soft resetting on the Switch, I actually recommend using the Y button instead of X. It will still close the program, but you don't have to click the game again to re-open it, so it makes the reset just a little bit quicker.
I’ve actually tested this and it’s pretty much the same speed. Pick your poison I guess but there isn’t much of a difference as you’d have to pick the profile either way
Something else about Gen 2 egg hunting, you can check the shininess before they even hatch. Look up Tama Hero's "Pokemon Stadium 2 Shiny Hunting" video for more information. But basically the way Pokemon change color in the stadium games allows you to find shiny eggs that are a different color and you can even find the exact shade your eggs are supposed to be.
Yep but not many people have access to that and it would also be a bit tedious to check every egg you receive that way. Still cool you can see if they’re shiny from the egg though!
I wish you mentioned the dual slot method for gen 4 radar chaining. I got a shiny teddiursa, and caterpie by using the dual slot method. There are a lot of cool mons you can encounter by inserting the gen 3 games.
Unfortunately that’s a very specific set of encounters you get for doing that. I didn’t really want to focus on certain encounters but I actually have done a dual slot shiny hunt on my channel before lol
In gen 2, the odds of hatching a shiny with a parent in the shiny family can go from 1/128 to 1/64 depending on the gender ratio of the species, since the baby inherits from the opposite gender parent. In your example of Ekans and the shiny Gyarados, the odd of getting a female Ekans is 1/2, so you halve the 1/64 chances. I am currently hunting a shiny Eevee in crystal and have the full 1/64 odds since the mother is in the shiny family, so all the male Eevees have the potential of being shiny.
I don’t have anything left of my first leafgreen save. But the only shiny I found was an Unown C. I sprinted to my friends house to show them. Wonder what my old trainer id was
Weird they must’ve not updated when the actual odds came out. I don’t blame them though. The odds were discovered years after the game came out. It was actually rather recent when all of this was confirmed
Question: If I choose my starter on a dead battery in ruby in the first frame, then I choose my starter after the second frame and soft resetting, can I choose my starter on the first frame again or do I wait till after 3 frames. If 60 frames pass, do I make a knew file?
The frames will remain the same so it’s best to try and stagger the times you choose the starter slightly to avoid the same frames then after about 50 or so, start a new save file and repeat
Also you can trade the shiny gyarados From gen 2 back to gen 1 get a poke doll and then the move mimic ob gyarados. Find ditto, use Mimic so you copy transform, ditto will then transform into gyarados, stall until it uses transform again, when it uses transform that second time it essentially permanently copies the gyarados DVs making it a shiny ditto, then trade it to gen 2 and due to breeding flaws in gen 2 it makes it where you can breed shinies ALOT easier!
I downloaded a gen 4 Spanish rom onto an SD card. If traded, would the Pokémon in that game work for the Masuda method? The Spanish icon did appear in the Pokédex once I obtained the language feature.
I was trying to get 10 sinestea fragments so I could get ceruldege, so I was going in and out of a town that was right next to the location I was using. So after the 9th fragment, a millisecond before I reset, I see a shiny makuhita in the background, and I don’t get it
Hey Dom, quick question about the gen 2 hunt. You said 1/8 female chance can’t be shiny unless through breeding? So does that mean you can get a shiny 1/8 female if you breed them? Was just a bit confused on that part
No I said 1/8 female ratio can’t be shiny at all if they’re female but you simply cannot encounter the ones other than what I listed without breeding so there wasn’t a reason to include them in
I have never modded older games onto a 3DS but I would assume the battery wouldn’t run dry with a rom? If it tells you the battery has run dry I’m sure it would still mess up the rng but you wouldn’t be able to fix it
@@ThedomiNATION I see worth testing someday I plan on buying them for real but that’s just not what I can afford in life right now 200 dollors for a ds game is crazy haha I did buy white two I contributed lol I wouldent mind buying one copy from each version variant of the ds games sutch as if I buy heart gold I mod soul silver type thing. But as it stands I just can’t do that as cool as it would be to have platinum and dimond physically again like when I was a kid lol
@@ThedomiNATION I see I’ll keep it in mind when I mod that game on there I need to figure out how to make gba rims appear on home screen I figured out how to download and play them but getting them in the home screen I have yet to figure out lol
You don’t have to save multiple times. One time works! Legendaries in ultra wormholes work like normal reset hunts! It’s the non legendary Pokémon that have the pre determined shiny value and the higher shiny rates!
Question I bought a copy of white 2 and I wiped the save file so I could play through it for myself however I know the servers are discontinued would I be able to use a different cartridge that’s just set to a different language and will that count for the Maseuda method we need for two different language Pokémon in the day care or dose the cartridge litterally need to be from a different region??
i know it may be very basilar, but i cannot find it, how does saving state affect shiny hunting? let’s say i am hunting a caterpie, should i save state and restart from there every time i take a break from hunting? or is it unaffected from saving
Are you referring creating a save state in like an emulator or just saving your game after hunting? I think creating a save state on your emulator can cause you to hit similar frames and could potentially make finding the shiny harder. If you properly save the game and turn your game off, upon reloading it, the game should randomly assign a new seed and you will for sure get new frames. Same goes for if you just not save and turn your game off then back on next time! This does not apply to emerald though or Ruby/Sapphire with a dead battery but if you’re doing random encounters in those games anyway, it shouldn’t matter as you’re very unlikely to hit similar frames if you aren’t doing a soft reset hunt! Hopefully this helps! It’s kind of a confusing concept to explain in a message lol
A question: I’m shiny hunting (in White 2) through repel trick for a Trapinch at the desert resort, a lv 21 Watchog with Illuminate and a smoke ball leading my team. I also don’t have the shiny charm yet. Now considering the sandstorm animation in battle and Trapinch having a 5% encounter rate, I usually manage to get approximately 800 encounters a day during my most intense sessions. I know the chances for a shiny to appear are purely based on probability and luck, but do you think 2000 REs per week (I mostly hunt during the weekends and commuting hours) is a decent amount for a grind in this hunt?
Yeah that’s not bad at all! I always try to estimate how many days it will take me to hit odds based on how many encounters I do in a day so I can see roughly how long it’ll take for me to get a shiny (assuming I have average luck)
If you’re using multiple of the same save file to hunt, you’re very likely getting rng clones between them especially for soft resets. Fast forward wouldn’t affect anything besides the speed you get encounters
@@ThedomiNATION thanks for the answer, but i have some other questions. Common situation: you spend 4 hours on real life hunting a shiny wooper at night with the fast forward turned on, nothing sparkles, makes any difference if you save the "progress"? Eventually, after some time, there goes a bug that change the character sprite into a gray block, and the game crashes on the next encounter. Does this bug affect the shiny hunting somehow? (The game im talking about is pokemon soulsilver) Thanks for the help and sorry for the bag of questions 😅
@@wellingtonjr01 saving vs not saving doesn’t affect anything, as when you encounter Pokémon, it’s a randomly generated Pokémon every time that’s different from the last. As for the grey block thing. Idk what that is, could be a glitch with the rom you’re using
That patch was just bad luck. As long as there are grass tiles in all 8 surrounding tiles, your chain will only break because of the inherent 2% chance. The only time when the grass remains silent is if none of the tiles the radar selects are grass tiles, which obviously isn't possible if every tile surrounding you is a grass tile.
Yeah I know it was just bad luck. I even said in the video it was a perfect patch I was just worried it would be a little too close to the edge. I’ve had some runs of the radar not select any 1 away tiles so I would assume that can happen if you’re near an edge patch. Always better to be safe than sorry
@@ThedomiNATION You sure? I've never experienced that and Bulbapedia says it always select one tile in each ring (1,2,3,4). Maybe it selected the tile right above you so your character obscured it?
You can still get soft reset shinies, but it’s much more difficult due to the limited frames you can work with. You would need to do the method where you record a new battle video every 50 or so resets and begin watching the video every reset you do.
Major question have any1 tried the breeding method with the red garydos and then dup the eggs instead of waiting on daycare man then hatch them to see if shiny or will duping that 1 egg will result the same regardless on how many times u hatch that single egg?
@@johndohbag4069 it applies to any egg including the odd egg in Crystal. That’s why you want to save before picking up that egg. As saving after you pick up the egg would result in you hatching the same Pokémon every time
Hey I have a question about the Poke Radar… so if you’re on your 40th Chain, could you switch out your Electabuzz for a Pokémon with Synchronize and expect the chain to remain unbroken?
Yep! Once you have the 40 chain you only need to look for shiny patches which will almost always be the Pokémon you’re targeting! Shiny patches can occur with other Pokémon, but if they do, they’re full odds!
Does stativ work for fishing encounters? I want to shiny hunte Chinchou in Pokémon Soulsilver and I just habe the Good Rod so the odds aren't as hight as Tenta cool or magikarp
Yes it does! All out battle abilities that effect encounter rates should affect fishing encounters! I event hunted for a shiny dhelmize with the fishing mark in sword and shield by leading with a Pokémon with the ability harvest!
The shiny charm in bdsp is working correctly. There is nothing im the code to suggest that it isn't. A masuda only boost is intended in these games. Most likely because pokeradar has so high odds.
Simply closing a gba doesn’t do anything. Turning off a gba acts like a reset but is slower and harder on the battery. Also there’s no order to soft resets. Every time you encounter a Pokémon it’s the same chance to be shiny. It’s just completely random when the shiny value is rolled
If I buy Japanese pokemon crystal on my English 3ds, and transfer a pokemon (say ditto) to bank, will I be able to maduda with it? Or does my 3ds need to be set to another region.
I think the 3DS needs to be foreign. 3DSs are region locked and language value wasn’t introduced until gen 3 so you might have to buy another 3DS for it unfortunately.
So an SOS chain of 1-10 has 0 boosted odds right? I just learned my accidental chain of 2 gumshoos shiny is full odds lol. (Was near battle tree and couldn't OHKO a gumshoos and when it called for help got a shiny lol)
To my understanding there is no ‘no guard’ in gen 3. Also, I personally have had a shiny shadow Pokemon revert to non shiny. The reason, which I later came to find was that since it was a rematch with the trainer, it’s shininess appeared for said trainer, but it wasn’t shiny for my trainer ID. So yeah, might want to get all your ducks in a row for future vids…
Are you referring to the hitmontop? As far as I know, that’s the only one the actual trainer can have shiny. If you rematch any trainer, you just will never get a shiny because the value is predetermined for the initial battle. But they will not revert to a non shiny upon purification. Also the thing about no guard is something I was just never aware of. I did countless hours of research on this video along with recording it and editing it and you manage to nitpick a couple minor mistakes so thanks for that…
@@ThedomiNATION haha well the rest of the video was pretty good, I did nitpick haha Ummm no, actually it was tyranitar and I swear to you it reverted back from shiny. I wish I had footage of it but that save file is long gone. I was soooo disappointed. It was shiny for the final boss but not for me
@@bloorazor yeah I’m actually really unsure I haven’t seen any reports for anything other than hitmontop as hitmontop specifically has some extra coding quirks. The way shinies work in colosseum is they are supposed to be locked like any other trainer battle Pokémon, but upon catching the Pokémon, it rerolls the values and they forgot to put a shiny lock for your character. So you can get the shadow shiny but the trainer cannot. The only exception I’ve seen anywhere for this is the shadow hitmontop, as both you and the trainer can get it shiny, if the trainer gets it shiny, it technically can stay but that would be like getting a back to back full odds shiny which is about a 1/67,000,000 chance so it will most likely revert back to a non shiny upon capture. I do really wish you had proof of the tyranitar though because if proven to be true that could give a lot more info on these hunts!
Yes. Those are the only reset hunts in emerald that aren’t quite as tedious as all the other ones. But tbh you’re still probably better off going for them in Ruby or Sapphire because of how quick those resets are to begin with plus not having to restart the save file
Yep, restart often (like 35-70 SR’s) and vary the timing of the resets. You could do, say, 5 with spamming the A button, 5 waiting a second longer, etc
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So... just a quick question: which is the best way to shiny hunt legendary Pokémon in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire or Emerald? I was just planning to get both Kyogre and Groudon and then Rayquaza but now I'm "confused". Thanks in advance
If you have Ruby/sapphire with working batteries then you should for sure do soft resets in that. Emerald allows you to do runaways for legendaries as you can’t do soft resets due to the broken rng but the runaways are slower than the Ruby/sapphire resets. If your Ruby/sapphire don’t have working batteries then you’d have to do the runaways in emerald as Ruby/sapphire don’t allow you to do runaways unfortunately. Hopefully this helps!
Question! If you finally encounter a shiny in Gen 1, then transfer it to Pokémon home, will it say it’s from the “Kanto Region” with the Gameboy icon. That’s what I’m looking forward to the most! Thanks!
Yep! Make sure it has been sent directly from the gen 1 game though! If you send it into a gen 2 game then into bank from there, it’ll say it’s from johto!
@@ThedomiNATION I do have fire red version although it is not rom hack but what you say is true ima hunt for charmander shiny. Thank you for responding!❤
Btw, RANDOM- I too forget what button to press on my XBOX games lol. X=Y, A=B, etc... but I always remember that Nintendo did the remote first and the others just wanted to be different lol
Thats funny u picked ekans as the pokemon to breed shiny gryrados with for your graphic because I actually did that exact hunt. Despite the low odds it was dreadful compared to new gens streamlined mechanics. I got it but it was female so it was useless to breed with. Not that i woulda suffered through that again anyways… new gens made it so much easier
No it isn’t. That was misinformation spread around years ago as no one knew the actual odds and just predicted them until they were actually found recently. I made sure to do a lot of research before making this video to avoid spreading further misinformation
Are you talking about having an npc trainer with you like Cheryl or buck? The shiny odds remain the same being 1/8192 (or 1/4096 if it’s BDSP). You just get 2 encounters at once instead of 1
@@ThedomiNATION Ok but the odds are 4000 considering there is two of them? Much quicker to find a shiny this way? Two at once must make the odds more likely than 8000, surely?
@@CodPatrol No. The odds remain 1/8192 for each shiny. You just get the encounters faster. Your probability of finding a shiny increases with the increased encounter rate but having 2 Pokémon vs 1 doesn’t magically give each Pokémon a higher shiny rate. With that logic, then getting 8192 encounters would make the odds 1/1 meaning it’s guaranteed which that is far from the case
@@ThedomiNATION Yeah I mean getting two encounters at once improves the luck of finding one because there’s two possible that “could” spawn. Do you know of people who have tried it and had good experiences doing it compared to just regular running into grass?
@@CodPatrol as with any hunt. Some people will have good luck with it and others will have bad luck with it. You’ll get the encounters twice as fast but it’ll still take on average 8,192 encounters to find a shiny. So if you have access to one of those hunts, I’d recommend trying it out!
OMG I finally caught my very first shiny, a shiny ✨Psyduck✨ in Pokemon Diamond, and it took me about 45 mins as well once i got to chain 40!!!!!!!!! 😁 😎
No. For the odd egg it is the sum of percentages. As the egg has a set chance of giving you a specific shiny Pokémon so to get any of them combined it would be all their percentages added up
When making this video I did not realize that the ability No Guard was introduced in generation 4! So you can’t use it to get a higher encounter rate in emerald!
Fakefan 🚨 I cant trust someone who doesnt even know that
@ThedomiNation In ShinyCollector's gen 1 video from 4 years ago, he lists that *_legendaries, gift pokemon, fishing encounters, in-game trades, and glitch pokemon_* can be shiny hunted in gen 1. Your video doesn't mention that despite your gift dratini gen1.
Has that changed since his or your video for whatever reason?
@@hisaceinthehole3426 6:35 my video does mention this. I didn’t speak about the npc trades but I put it in text in the video at the same time I’m mentioning what Pokémon can be shiny in gen 1. I did not mention the mew glitch Pokémon at that’s a more obscure way to shiny hunt and the legality can vary depending on the Pokémon you’re hunting
@@ThedomiNATION I see. i must have missd that.
@@ThedomiNATION I have Pokemon Ruby with a dry battery. Can I still try the run away method for the legendaries there, or does that only work in Emerald?
I'll never forget spending a week knocking out 999 Hatenna without finding a shiny then gave up and proceeded to start hatching with getting the shiny after only 11 eggs 😂😂
lol never fails
My first Masuda hunt was under 30 eggs (shiny Squirtle) but when I tried to get a shiny Staryu it took me over 1600 eggs.
@@facesoffearbrewing1229I once had a litten take 3,000 eggs with the masuda method. I wanted to cry. Thankfully my luck is usually better than that.
a friend of mine went through 3k+ eggs for a shiny larvesta
My first masuda method shiny I went wayyyyyyyy over odds hunting for weeks it hatched on the bus in public I had to suppress my excitement for my first ever shiny encounter on purpose everything I ever got was full odds like my first ever shiny encounter ever Zubat
Learned about illuminate increasing encounter rate through this, which is definitely helping me on my full odds Ursaring wild hunt in Soul Silver. Thanks so much in general too, I only really got into shiny hunting a couple years ago and majorly over the past year, and your vids have been a major source of inspiration, encouragement, and useful info. I've learned a lot from you! My first and most treasured Shiny still is my Azumarill from gen 3 Sapphire, which I just happened on randomly as a Marill while in a movie theater. It was dark and i had missed the shiny flash, it looked slightly different from usual so I just took a chance and chucked a ball at it. The theater went completely dark for the movie after I saved, I did not get to see if it was shiny until the end, and imagine my surprise when it was! Once again, thanks and keep it up!
That’s awesome! Glad to have helped you out! And that’s a crazy story with the azumarill congrats!
I hope you guys enjoy this! For anyone wanting to get into shiny hunting or maybe those who just want more info on certain methods, here is my full guide on how to shiny hunt in EVERY GENERATION of Pokemon!
What are some of your guys favorite shiny Pokemon that you've found?
My fav shiny that i own is either ninetales ir hisuian braviary
My favorite shiny is easily my shiny Delphox, as that was my longest hunt spanning over 9 months as a starter during Pokémon Y. It took me slightly over odds and was a fun experience but I’d never do one with that long of a reset again!
That’s insane! The XY starter resets are brutal and that whole shiny line is amazing! One day I may muster up the courage to try for one but not anytime soon 😅
I feel you. I've been soft resetting for a shiny treeko in oras for 8 months now 😅
The Skill Swap/Trick method in USUM can be done even better by having a Harvest Trevenant with both moves and a Leppa berry, so that you don't need to split up the task between two Pokémon. It's what I use in USUM for my shiny hunts for legendary Pokémon. I then switch out to Primal Groudon to get permanent sun that will guarantee the activation of Harvest. That, and having a Synchronizing Pokémon out in front that can use Thunder Wave turn 1, followed by a Pokémon with False Swipe to whittle down the shinies' HP, makes for a very strong shiny hunting team in USUM!
I've been waiting on this video for so long, glad to finally see it come to fruition!
I am what I'd consider to be a master of the Gen 4 Poke Radar with what is nearing 3 boxes of the possible 8 boxes worth of unique shinies available in Gen 4 and while it wasnt perfect, the Gen 4 Poke Radar section was beautifully explained and remarkably in depth
It goes into detail on many aspects people dont mention in other tutorials such as:
- Aggressive grass having the poke radar exclusive pokemon
- The exact percentages of grass patches
- Catching pokemon adds a flat 10% to whatever grass patch you go into being the correct species
- Mentioning and explaining that shinies are guaranteed to continue your chain and a ton of other advice which was very impressive
Particularly mentioning the superstition of 4, 4 / 0, 4 / 4, 0 having higher odds of breaking your chain and using the bike breaks your chain was amazing to see mentioned
I believe that its likely true but so unbelievably minor that you should not bother avoiding those patches ever
There were a few things that were left unexplained:
- How edge patches break the chain
- Why walking a certain distance breaks your chain
- How objects with grass tiles affect your chain
For example an npc on the first route or the sign in the post game island route beneath stark mountain
I will explain what wasn't to the best of my ability in the replies to this comment
I really wish this was filmed with a capture card with crisp footage so itd be easier to see the grass patches but otherwise everything unmentioned wasnt essential just something curious players will be thinking about
So take it from a pro, you did a fantastic job!!!
|< EDGE PATCHES >|
Afaik, if you are on an edge with, let's say, 3 patches missing in the first ring around you
There is a 3/8 chance for your chain to break from no grass patches spawning
This means:
- Corner patches are generally a 5/8 chance to break your chain
- Edge patches are generally a 3/8 chance to break your chain
- The patch you made an example of at 31:35 is a 1/8 chance to break your chain, making it usable on lower chains if you're willing to take the risk
- Shiny patches on the edge are still likely to break chains and do not affect the odds of continuing the chain beyond guaranteeing the correct pokemon
I am unsure as to how reseting nearby another seperate patch of grass works with edge resets but grass patches do not need to be in touching to spawn shaking grass tiles
Theoretically, a singular grass tile with no grass around it in a ring surrounded by grass tiles everywhere else on screen may have a 100% chance of breaking your chain which i believe there is one somewhere in sinnoh but i will need to test that myself, its probably more complex than that
|< CHAIN BREAKS >|
Your chain will break if:
- The console is turned off
- The game is soft reseted
- The grass patch didnt result in the pokemon that begun the chain
- The radar was reset on the edge by either manually reseting on the edge or entering a shaking grass patch on the edge
- The player moves to a different area, whether in a building or a different route without a loading zone
- You move any grass patch off screen in any way
I'd like to note for this one specifically how to avoid it
Generally staying within a 5 x 5 or even a 6 x 6 grid of where you last reset the poke radar will never break your chain
If every grass patch is in a line directly to the left of the player, then moving more than 4 tiles to the right will break your chain
Hypothetically, if the four patches are as close to you as possible diagonally, then you would have the most distance possible to move away from the chain
This is something you need to get a feel for
It comes with experience
|< MISCELLANEOUS THINGS FOR WEIRDOS LIKE ME >|
Any object that can not overlap with the grass tile is considered a wall tile and, as a result, make any grass patches neighbouring it in a ring an edge tile
Examples include:
- Trees
- Ledges
- Any tiles that would be considered map tiles
Objects capable of overlapping with grass tiles will not function as edge tiles
These include
- All Npcs
- The sign on the sign on the route below stark mountain
Really informative video. I knew a lot of this information but it was still a lot of fun to see how shiny hunting has changed over the years. I did learn something new though! Thanks for the guide on soft resetting the strong spawns I have now gotten 4 while waiting for space time distortions on my other switch.
Glad to have helped! And congrats on your strong spawn shinies!
I like dexnav method in oras as a meditative time skip, and I believe that the main factor to increase your chance to find a shiny is your search level, and 50'th encounter just boosts your chance that is based on your search level, and 100'th boosts it even more. So if, lets say, you have search level 999, then every encounter 1-49 and 51-99 will have same chances to find shiny. It's hard to chain 5+ in a cave, so I just purposely break my chain at this point and start from the beginning.
Small tip for the PokeRadar in Gen 4:
On the app that keeps track of your chains, keep an eye on the top number counting your mon BEFORE you go into a patch. You will know right away if your chain breaks because the count will disappear before the mon shows up.
EDIT: you can actually see it at 37:23 before the Bidoof breaks it. Look at the top of the bottom screen of the DS.
Yep! But I hate looking at the bottom screen for it to spoil the result! I swear I never look at it and it keeps the chain and the one time I look at it, I see the current chain go away 😂
This was the best Pokéradar guide ever, I had no idea about the catch increase shiny odds! and the other details
Thanks for the guide! One of my favorite shinies that I've caught has to be the Rayquaza I got in Ultra Sun at full odds. After around 5000 encounters, I accidentally soft reset over one, and became determined to reclaim it. After around 7000 more encounters I did just that, and when I eventually transferred him over to Shield, it turned out he was a square shiny! So I guess I reclaimed him with interest!
That’s awesome! I did the same thing in my ultra sun version actually. The shiny partner cap pikachu that was in the clips in my sword version, I actually failed after about 6,500 resets I reset over it, then reclaimed it after about 8,700 more resets later! Still one of my favorite shinies I have to this day!
I love shiny ray! Square shinies are guaranteed for transferred Pokémon I think
@@tylerpinniger9958 I actually think it’s a 1/16 chance of squares, since all my other transferred shinies have stars. I know GO transfers are squares 100% of the time though
@@tylerpinniger9958 they actually aren’t! I transferred like 20 shinies from previous gens and only 2 were square sparkles! Only guaranteed if they’re from an event and are “found during a fateful encounter!”
@@infinitygroudonVGC my bad, I confused those with go ones 😓
Love the outro-the GCB Pokémon games are 10/10.
I'll never forget when I was gonna do a PokeRadar hunt for Ditto on BDSP and I literally found a shiny on my first patch
That’s awesome! Congrats!
Switch hunting sure has been confusing! I entirely understand the sentiment of only doing gens 1-8. Seeing as this was just uploaded, there's no way I could've watched it all. I know this will be very helpful though, going to be using this soon as I'm playing through X and Y. Thanks for all the research that went into this, it will be a resource I use for years to come!
Thank you! And yeah I really wanted to include Scarlet and violet in this but I figured I could wait until we knew exactly how shiny hunting works in those games! Plus it’s nice having all 8 generations that have all concluded as opposed to having some of gen 9!
Great video, thank you.
One note regarding pokeradar chaining since there are so many misconceptions around this method as you have pointed out. I have done a couple hunts with it recently and there is also a very good guide on Smogon.
Going for an edge piece does not have an inherent risk of just breaking your chain - the risk involved (when picturing the grid around the player character), is that after catching the pokemon the pokeradar choses 4 patches that are all outside of the current gras field. You can for example never be "too close to the edge" as was suggested in the video. Having even one patch of buffer around you will GUARANTEE that at least one patch will shake after the catch because the pokeradar will always chose a patch for 1 tile aways/2 tiles away/3 tiles away and 4 tiles away respectively.
Given that resetting the radar reduces the chance of keeping your chain from 98 to 88 percent, I usually found it worthwhile just going for the edge piece if it was 4 tiles away. And after c. 20 shinies I don't think that I ever had my chain break after taking the edge patch (thats lucky in itself, but still). One can always roughly calculate how high the chance of breaking the chain is based on the position of the player character. For example, on a corner patch the chance of having all new patches outside the gras area is higher than on an edge patch in the middle of the gras.
I have found so many good shinies like salamence, gengar abd tyranitar by chaining them in platinum + you can get the exact nature and ability you want.
Platinum is such a good game!
54:50
Trevenant has the hidden ability Harvest and can learn Trick & Skill Swap from TRs in SwSh (as well as from move tutors in USUM), making it the ideal Pokémon for this strat
However, keep in mind that Skill Swap doesn't work on Pokémon with certain abilities (check Serebii for a full list), making it necessary to have a Pokémon holding a Leppa berry use Fling + Recover, as well as finding a way to heal the opposing Pokémon from the small amount of Fling damage, e.g. Heal Pulse
58:05
Important note: KOing a Pokémon gives the next random spawn a greater than 50% chance of being the same species as the KOed Pokémon, making it viable to continue KOing low spawn rate Pokémon, even past 500
The reason I say greater than 50% is because it varies based on the Pokémon's original spawn rate. The game divides in half the rate of all Pokémon for that area, & gives one half to the Pokémon you've just KOed. That way, KOing a Pokémon with a 1% spawn chance has a 50.5% chance of being the next spawn, but KOing a Pokémon with a 50% spawn chance would have a 75% chance of being the next spawn.
1:08:52
The Mew & Jirachi you get in Floarama Town as save data bonuses are shiny locked
Other than all that, great video! An absolute must watch for new or experienced shiny hunters 😁😁
Man great video! I could tell you put in a lot of effort into it and it definitely got my like! I’d say my favorite shiny was my first shiny in sun and moon, after 5600 soft resets I finally got it and was ecstatic
It was a litten my bad
That’s awesome! One of these days I’ll have to try for an alolan starter!
58:26 you can do as the video creator says but I myself caught non brilliant shinies(two of them) while doing this. I'd say definitely check brilliant spawns for shiny, but also check non brilliant spawns as *they* can also be shiny.
Yeah. Actually testing this method compared to regular encounters. It turns out, you’ll hit odds faster if you’re not doing the method than if you were.
Damn dude. This video is super comprehensive. Congrats.
Last year I got myself a copy of Platinum to play through Sinnoh again.
I didn't encounter one but TWO full odds shiny Pokemon without even looking for shinies and I managed to catch both.
One was a yellow Floatzel in the victory road while using surf.
The other was a golden Geodude in the mine of Oreburgh. That Geodude was probably the ~10th wild Pokemon I encountered in that playthrough. It blew my mind.
Neither of them is one that I would have picked if given the choice, but I hold them very dearly now. They are like a lucky charm to me. 😄
To add on to the broken RNG from R/S/E if you want a way to randomize your seed interact with one of the paintings at the Lilycove contest hall. It will reseed your game to the current hex value of your frame. ie: frame 10 would reseed to 000A. So, just get into a random fight then run or beat it then talk to the painting.
Unfortunately if you do that and then soft reset your game, it’ll still go back to the usual frames. So I mean it could work if you really wanted to for random encounters or right before recording a battle video, but it wouldn’t make much of a difference for soft resets
Dude I love you for making this video. Thank you
I think my personal favourite hunt was Bruxish, where I restricted myself to fishing in USUM on Christmas Eve and Christmas day only. I wanted the Pokemon with a caught on 24th/25th of December. It took me about four years to finish that hunt, du ti the pretty limited time I had to hunt (my cousin's birthday is on Chrimas Eve and while I do have more tome on Christmas itself, I would still not be able to shiny hunt for more than 2-3 hours that day).
My favourtie shiny over all must be a Tentacruel I got in USUM as well. I searched for Tentacruel since Gen 2 (2001), but it somehow never showed up, despite the line being one of the most commen pokemon in existence and me almost never using repels. Yet when I took up USUM to move from where I left the game to a spot to catch Bruxish the very first encounter on that day was a shiny Tenatcruel. Love her.
Oh, and I once resetted for a Shiny Rayquaza in Emerald, long before GameFreak decided to hand this specific shiny out left and right. I'm still pissed to this day whenever there's a new distribution of that black dragon, because I kid you not, they started thos not even half a year after I finished my hunt. -.-
My first ever shiny was a dialga I got at full odds not even trying to hunt him so I named him 0 resets In brilliant diamond. I've played hundreds of hours in every single pokemon game before that without getting one, After that arceus gave me about 30
That’s crazy! I’ve had random shinies in Pokémon games but never one of the “one time only” Pokémon! It would be a dream to get a shiny starter or legendary first try without hunting!
Something for Gen 4… there’s trade Pokémon that are coded to have different languages of origin and you can breed them for Masuda Method hunts, the Magikarp that the guy who upgrades your dex will trade you in the Sinnoh games and Lt Surge’s French Pikachu in HGSS. In Diamond and Pearl ONLY, all the in game trades (except the German Magikarp) are functionally Japanese, meaning they are also usable for this, the Abra and Haunter are the only males so the only ones that you can use to get other Pokémon. (Source: Bulbapedia and a couple other places, but different places will say different things. I’d say Bulbapedia is reliable, because they also mention specifically if you trade the Diamond and Pearl in game trades to Platinum or HGSS you can get the Japanese Pokédex entries for those Pokémon, which is true)
I am surprised you didn’t include the cute charm glitch for Gen 4, definitely the best way to get shiny Pokémon in the older games
I personally don’t know enough about it. On top of that I tend to exclude methods that are unintended that increase shiny odds like rng abuse. The only exception is the ditto glitch in gen 1 but I see that more as a tool to help hunt for gen 2 egg shinies rather than a method on its own
aint even a glitch :}
I never have forgot when I was taking in the lost Seel in Poke Peligo and happened to get a shiny. Still have it in Brilliant Diamond to this day.
Nice! Some day I might try a shiny from poke pelago but it seems very tough and I don’t know enough about how it works lol
Great video there were somethings I didn't know about the legends arcus methods hunts. And some of my favorite shinys I got is shiny celebi in crystal VC first encounter shiny Mewtwo in the ultra wormhole and my Gen one Zapdos I just caught. Thanks for the content 😁
Thank you! And congrats on those awesome shinies!
@@ThedomiNATION Thank you
For soft resetting on the Switch, I actually recommend using the Y button instead of X. It will still close the program, but you don't have to click the game again to re-open it, so it makes the reset just a little bit quicker.
I’ve actually tested this and it’s pretty much the same speed. Pick your poison I guess but there isn’t much of a difference as you’d have to pick the profile either way
Something else about Gen 2 egg hunting, you can check the shininess before they even hatch. Look up Tama Hero's "Pokemon Stadium 2 Shiny Hunting" video for more information. But basically the way Pokemon change color in the stadium games allows you to find shiny eggs that are a different color and you can even find the exact shade your eggs are supposed to be.
Yep but not many people have access to that and it would also be a bit tedious to check every egg you receive that way. Still cool you can see if they’re shiny from the egg though!
I wish you mentioned the dual slot method for gen 4 radar chaining. I got a shiny teddiursa, and caterpie by using the dual slot method. There are a lot of cool mons you can encounter by inserting the gen 3 games.
Unfortunately that’s a very specific set of encounters you get for doing that. I didn’t really want to focus on certain encounters but I actually have done a dual slot shiny hunt on my channel before lol
Never knew that fact about Gen 1 shinies 😮 Nice dude
In gen 1&2, all a Pokémon needs to produce shiny eggs is defence and speed gene of 10 or A.
Ok man you deserve more views, nice job
Thank you!
My god brilliant video man
In gen 2, the odds of hatching a shiny with a parent in the shiny family can go from 1/128 to 1/64 depending on the gender ratio of the species, since the baby inherits from the opposite gender parent. In your example of Ekans and the shiny Gyarados, the odd of getting a female Ekans is 1/2, so you halve the 1/64 chances. I am currently hunting a shiny Eevee in crystal and have the full 1/64 odds since the mother is in the shiny family, so all the male Eevees have the potential of being shiny.
great video thanks for all the information :)
I have only come across maybe 4 shinies in my playthroughs. Last one was a Pidgey, but couldnt catch him since i didnt have pokeballs
No Guard does not work in FRLG because the ability did not exist until Diamond and Pearl.
The more you know!
13:25 no guard was introduced on gen 4
Did you not see the pinned comment that shows first before typing this comment? 😂
@@ThedomiNATION oh god im really sorry about that
I don’t have anything left of my first leafgreen save. But the only shiny I found was an Unown C. I sprinted to my friends house to show them. Wonder what my old trainer id was
My first ever shiny was a random bidoof that I don’t have anymore because I got rid of that cartridge of Pearl 😔. One day we’ll get them back though!
wait, serebii has different odds for SOS chaining, serebii states 1/683 with charm
Weird they must’ve not updated when the actual odds came out. I don’t blame them though. The odds were discovered years after the game came out. It was actually rather recent when all of this was confirmed
Oh wow, that’s neat, i never knew that, thank you so much!
I have now seen two separate videos explaining pokeradar chaining and I still don't understand it at all. Great system from gamefreak!
Enter shaking patches that are 4 spaces away from you, don’t go into edge patches, get lucky!
Question: If I choose my starter on a dead battery in ruby in the first frame, then I choose my starter after the second frame and soft resetting, can I choose my starter on the first frame again or do I wait till after 3 frames. If 60 frames pass, do I make a knew file?
The frames will remain the same so it’s best to try and stagger the times you choose the starter slightly to avoid the same frames then after about 50 or so, start a new save file and repeat
@ thanks
Also you can trade the shiny gyarados From gen 2 back to gen 1 get a poke doll and then the move mimic ob gyarados. Find ditto, use Mimic so you copy transform, ditto will then transform into gyarados, stall until it uses transform again, when it uses transform that second time it essentially permanently copies the gyarados DVs making it a shiny ditto, then trade it to gen 2 and due to breeding flaws in gen 2 it makes it where you can breed shinies ALOT easier!
If anyone needs help explaining it more I can do that, gen 2 is where I did most my shiny hunting and have a complete shiny living dex for it
Yes, he mentioned this glitch in his Video and linked a proper explanation for this in the description.
So useful; thanks for sharing! This is my first time hearing about this
Great video!
Thank you!
This was excellent 👏👍🏽
Thank you!
Fantastical video....thank you!!!😈🤘
8:30 isn’t this like, exactly what happened when ultrasound technology was invented irl
I downloaded a gen 4 Spanish rom onto an SD card. If traded, would the Pokémon in that game work for the Masuda method? The Spanish icon did appear in the Pokédex once I obtained the language feature.
Yep it should work!
I was trying to get 10 sinestea fragments so I could get ceruldege, so I was going in and out of a town that was right next to the location I was using. So after the 9th fragment, a millisecond before I reset, I see a shiny makuhita in the background, and I don’t get it
Oh no! Hopefully you can find another soon!
Currently rewatching the gen 6 part so I can use it for shiny hunting with my new Living Dex enable shiny charms
Good luck !
Hey Dom, quick question about the gen 2 hunt. You said 1/8 female chance can’t be shiny unless through breeding? So does that mean you can get a shiny 1/8 female if you breed them? Was just a bit confused on that part
No I said 1/8 female ratio can’t be shiny at all if they’re female but you simply cannot encounter the ones other than what I listed without breeding so there wasn’t a reason to include them in
@@ThedomiNATION ah gotcha. Thank you very much and hope you have a good time with scarlet/violet. I’ve had a blast for as much as I played
My 3 favorite shinies are Snorunt, Glalie and Froslass, all caught within a month between June-July
Snorunt is From LEgends, (male), while Glalie and Froslass were caught in Scarlet
Congrats!
What if we mod ruby onto our 3ds how would the internal battery mechanic come into play at that point just curious?
I have never modded older games onto a 3DS but I would assume the battery wouldn’t run dry with a rom? If it tells you the battery has run dry I’m sure it would still mess up the rng but you wouldn’t be able to fix it
@@ThedomiNATION I see worth testing someday I plan on buying them for real but that’s just not what I can afford in life right now 200 dollors for a ds game is crazy haha I did buy white two I contributed lol I wouldent mind buying one copy from each version variant of the ds games sutch as if I buy heart gold I mod soul silver type thing. But as it stands I just can’t do that as cool as it would be to have platinum and dimond physically again like when I was a kid lol
@@ThedomiNATION I see I’ll keep it in mind when I mod that game on there I need to figure out how to make gba rims appear on home screen I figured out how to download and play them but getting them in the home screen I have yet to figure out lol
In usum if you save multiple times in front of the wormhole legendaries, and start resetting can the legends be shiny?
You don’t have to save multiple times. One time works! Legendaries in ultra wormholes work like normal reset hunts! It’s the non legendary Pokémon that have the pre determined shiny value and the higher shiny rates!
Thanks! Just asking because I accidentally saved 3 times in front of latios lol. Goodluck on your future hunts!
Question I bought a copy of white 2 and I wiped the save file so I could play through it for myself however I know the servers are discontinued would I be able to use a different cartridge that’s just set to a different language and will that count for the Maseuda method we need for two different language Pokémon in the day care or dose the cartridge litterally need to be from a different region??
Breeding two different language Pokémon will allow Masuda method to work
@@ThedomiNATION ok sweet glad to know I don’t need a cartridge from another region lol
i know it may be very basilar, but i cannot find it, how does saving state affect shiny hunting? let’s say i am hunting a caterpie, should i save state and restart from there every time i take a break from hunting? or is it unaffected from saving
Are you referring creating a save state in like an emulator or just saving your game after hunting? I think creating a save state on your emulator can cause you to hit similar frames and could potentially make finding the shiny harder. If you properly save the game and turn your game off, upon reloading it, the game should randomly assign a new seed and you will for sure get new frames. Same goes for if you just not save and turn your game off then back on next time! This does not apply to emerald though or Ruby/Sapphire with a dead battery but if you’re doing random encounters in those games anyway, it shouldn’t matter as you’re very unlikely to hit similar frames if you aren’t doing a soft reset hunt!
Hopefully this helps! It’s kind of a confusing concept to explain in a message lol
What whas your first shiny starter? Mine whas a first encounter female litten in my first ever Pokémon game altra sun
Mine was a shiny female bulbasaur in leaf green! Took me just over 3000 resets! Still one of my favorites to this day!
A question: I’m shiny hunting (in White 2) through repel trick for a Trapinch at the desert resort, a lv 21 Watchog with Illuminate and a smoke ball leading my team. I also don’t have the shiny charm yet. Now considering the sandstorm animation in battle and Trapinch having a 5% encounter rate, I usually manage to get approximately 800 encounters a day during my most intense sessions. I know the chances for a shiny to appear are purely based on probability and luck, but do you think 2000 REs per week (I mostly hunt during the weekends and commuting hours) is a decent amount for a grind in this hunt?
Yeah that’s not bad at all! I always try to estimate how many days it will take me to hit odds based on how many encounters I do in a day so I can see roughly how long it’ll take for me to get a shiny (assuming I have average luck)
Transfer a save file or use fast forward can interfere on the shiny hunt somehow?
If you’re using multiple of the same save file to hunt, you’re very likely getting rng clones between them especially for soft resets. Fast forward wouldn’t affect anything besides the speed you get encounters
@@ThedomiNATION thanks for the answer, but i have some other questions.
Common situation: you spend 4 hours on real life hunting a shiny wooper at night with the fast forward turned on, nothing sparkles, makes any difference if you save the "progress"?
Eventually, after some time, there goes a bug that change the character sprite into a gray block, and the game crashes on the next encounter. Does this bug affect the shiny hunting somehow? (The game im talking about is pokemon soulsilver)
Thanks for the help and sorry for the bag of questions 😅
@@wellingtonjr01 saving vs not saving doesn’t affect anything, as when you encounter Pokémon, it’s a randomly generated Pokémon every time that’s different from the last. As for the grey block thing. Idk what that is, could be a glitch with the rom you’re using
No Guard was introduced in Generation 4 so of course there is no Gen 3 information, silly.
That’s just something I was unaware of when I made this video
That patch was just bad luck. As long as there are grass tiles in all 8 surrounding tiles, your chain will only break because of the inherent 2% chance. The only time when the grass remains silent is if none of the tiles the radar selects are grass tiles, which obviously isn't possible if every tile surrounding you is a grass tile.
Yeah I know it was just bad luck. I even said in the video it was a perfect patch I was just worried it would be a little too close to the edge. I’ve had some runs of the radar not select any 1 away tiles so I would assume that can happen if you’re near an edge patch. Always better to be safe than sorry
@@ThedomiNATION You sure? I've never experienced that and Bulbapedia says it always select one tile in each ring (1,2,3,4). Maybe it selected the tile right above you so your character obscured it?
So if your gen 3 ruby or sapphire has a dead battery you can only get shiny wild pokemon?
You can still get soft reset shinies, but it’s much more difficult due to the limited frames you can work with. You would need to do the method where you record a new battle video every 50 or so resets and begin watching the video every reset you do.
Major question have any1 tried the breeding method with the red garydos and then dup the eggs instead of waiting on daycare man then hatch them to see if shiny or will duping that 1 egg will result the same regardless on how many times u hatch that single egg?
Egg Pokémon have always been determined as soon as the egg is generated. So duping an egg would result in just the same Pokémon duplicated
@@ThedomiNATION Do that apply for the free baby pokemon egg too?
@@johndohbag4069 it applies to any egg including the odd egg in Crystal. That’s why you want to save before picking up that egg. As saving after you pick up the egg would result in you hatching the same Pokémon every time
Hey I have a question about the Poke Radar… so if you’re on your 40th Chain, could you switch out your Electabuzz for a Pokémon with Synchronize and expect the chain to remain unbroken?
Yep! Once you have the 40 chain you only need to look for shiny patches which will almost always be the Pokémon you’re targeting! Shiny patches can occur with other Pokémon, but if they do, they’re full odds!
Does stativ work for fishing encounters?
I want to shiny hunte Chinchou in Pokémon Soulsilver and I just habe the Good Rod so the odds aren't as hight as Tenta cool or magikarp
Yes it does! All out battle abilities that effect encounter rates should affect fishing encounters! I event hunted for a shiny dhelmize with the fishing mark in sword and shield by leading with a Pokémon with the ability harvest!
The shiny charm in bdsp is working correctly. There is nothing im the code to suggest that it isn't.
A masuda only boost is intended in these games. Most likely because pokeradar has so high odds.
If the shiny charm was intended to only work for Masuda method, then they wouldn’t have added it to the game in the first place 😂
Does shutting/closing gba restart softreset like over 1000 to 0
Simply closing a gba doesn’t do anything. Turning off a gba acts like a reset but is slower and harder on the battery. Also there’s no order to soft resets. Every time you encounter a Pokémon it’s the same chance to be shiny. It’s just completely random when the shiny value is rolled
If I buy Japanese pokemon crystal on my English 3ds, and transfer a pokemon (say ditto) to bank, will I be able to maduda with it? Or does my 3ds need to be set to another region.
I think the 3DS needs to be foreign. 3DSs are region locked and language value wasn’t introduced until gen 3 so you might have to buy another 3DS for it unfortunately.
So an SOS chain of 1-10 has 0 boosted odds right?
I just learned my accidental chain of 2 gumshoos shiny is full odds lol. (Was near battle tree and couldn't OHKO a gumshoos and when it called for help got a shiny lol)
Yep that’s correct! Congrats!
Loved the vid while I SR for shiny Lugia in HG
Thanks! And good luck on the lugia!
@@ThedomiNATION literally shiny hunting at work.
Remember kids shiny pokemon mean nothing nowdays ,be a baller hunt in gens 1-5 to really flex on the babies
What’s the app streamers use to have 8 screens simultaneously ?
They either actually have 8 games running at the same time and are using capture cards to display the screens, or they’re just using emulators
@@ThedomiNATION alright thank you for the insight!
To my understanding there is no ‘no guard’ in gen 3. Also, I personally have had a shiny shadow Pokemon revert to non shiny. The reason, which I later came to find was that since it was a rematch with the trainer, it’s shininess appeared for said trainer, but it wasn’t shiny for my trainer ID. So yeah, might want to get all your ducks in a row for future vids…
Are you referring to the hitmontop? As far as I know, that’s the only one the actual trainer can have shiny. If you rematch any trainer, you just will never get a shiny because the value is predetermined for the initial battle. But they will not revert to a non shiny upon purification. Also the thing about no guard is something I was just never aware of. I did countless hours of research on this video along with recording it and editing it and you manage to nitpick a couple minor mistakes so thanks for that…
@@ThedomiNATION haha well the rest of the video was pretty good, I did nitpick haha
Ummm no, actually it was tyranitar and I swear to you it reverted back from shiny. I wish I had footage of it but that save file is long gone. I was soooo disappointed. It was shiny for the final boss but not for me
@@bloorazor yeah I’m actually really unsure I haven’t seen any reports for anything other than hitmontop as hitmontop specifically has some extra coding quirks. The way shinies work in colosseum is they are supposed to be locked like any other trainer battle Pokémon, but upon catching the Pokémon, it rerolls the values and they forgot to put a shiny lock for your character. So you can get the shadow shiny but the trainer cannot. The only exception I’ve seen anywhere for this is the shadow hitmontop, as both you and the trainer can get it shiny, if the trainer gets it shiny, it technically can stay but that would be like getting a back to back full odds shiny which is about a 1/67,000,000 chance so it will most likely revert back to a non shiny upon capture. I do really wish you had proof of the tyranitar though because if proven to be true that could give a lot more info on these hunts!
Shouldn't hunting starters in Emerald be fine as long as you occasionally start a new save file?
Yes. Those are the only reset hunts in emerald that aren’t quite as tedious as all the other ones. But tbh you’re still probably better off going for them in Ruby or Sapphire because of how quick those resets are to begin with plus not having to restart the save file
Yep, restart often (like 35-70 SR’s) and vary the timing of the resets. You could do, say, 5 with spamming the A button, 5 waiting a second longer, etc
So... just a quick question: which is the best way to shiny hunt legendary Pokémon in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire or Emerald? I was just planning to get both Kyogre and Groudon and then Rayquaza but now I'm "confused". Thanks in advance
If you have Ruby/sapphire with working batteries then you should for sure do soft resets in that. Emerald allows you to do runaways for legendaries as you can’t do soft resets due to the broken rng but the runaways are slower than the Ruby/sapphire resets.
If your Ruby/sapphire don’t have working batteries then you’d have to do the runaways in emerald as Ruby/sapphire don’t allow you to do runaways unfortunately.
Hopefully this helps!
@@ThedomiNATION Thank you so much buddy ✨
Question! If you finally encounter a shiny in Gen 1, then transfer it to Pokémon home, will it say it’s from the “Kanto Region” with the Gameboy icon. That’s what I’m looking forward to the most! Thanks!
Yep! Make sure it has been sent directly from the gen 1 game though! If you send it into a gen 2 game then into bank from there, it’ll say it’s from johto!
Been wondering does the shiny encounter works on GBA emulators on mobiles?
Yep! As long as you are using the same game as your rom and not some rom hack version! (Usually rom hacks have higher shiny rates though)
@@ThedomiNATION I do have fire red version although it is not rom hack but what you say is true ima hunt for charmander shiny. Thank you for responding!❤
@@driotas3809 no problem! And good luck!
Btw, RANDOM- I too forget what button to press on my XBOX games lol. X=Y, A=B, etc... but I always remember that Nintendo did the remote first and the others just wanted to be different lol
I get the same thing lol! After playing my Xbox for a while or my switch for a while, when I go to the other console I start hitting wrong buttons 😂
Did you skip the cute charm glitch in gen 4 on purpose?
Yes along with rng abuse as those are unintended shiny odds
@@ThedomiNATION but you included the ditto glitch in gen 1? Oh well your video your opinions just wanted clarification.
@@Coolbond2 The ditto glitch was included as a tool for shiny hunting eggs in gen 2 not as a method of shiny hunting itself! Hopefully this clarifies!
13:29 You can get a wifu in gen 3?!
Yes you can get a Wii U in gen 3
I soft reseted a shiny totodile on Crystal while watching this !
That’s so cool! Congrats!
Do you know if you can shiny hunt mew from Pokémon ranch?
You cannot. Phione and mew in Pokémon ranch are unfortunately shiny locked. :/
@@ThedomiNATION that’s a disappointment. Thanks you tho, appreciate your help
you are a legend i love you!
Thank you!
I feel like you should have shown an example calculation for iv / dv . The explanation isn't clear at all.
If you use the site I linked, it’s pretty obvious what you need to be looking for
I can't believe the timing of this video I was literally just thinking about a living shiny dex 😂
lol good luck! It’s quite the challenge!
Thats funny u picked ekans as the pokemon to breed shiny gryrados with for your graphic because I actually did that exact hunt. Despite the low odds it was dreadful compared to new gens streamlined mechanics. I got it but it was female so it was useless to breed with. Not that i woulda suffered through that again anyways… new gens made it so much easier
Yeah I knew someone who did it as well which is why in used it in the video!
50:50 It is 1/512 odds for Friend Safari.
Edit: old information, check the gen 6/7 shiny odds tweet in this video's description. Well done dude
No it isn’t. That was misinformation spread around years ago as no one knew the actual odds and just predicted them until they were actually found recently. I made sure to do a lot of research before making this video to avoid spreading further misinformation
@@ThedomiNATION oh ok
I'm gonna go check, but is there a source in the description?
@@ThedomiNATION it is! Wow thanks! Hopefully more people do learn about that
What are the odds of finding shiny when you do escort missions in gen 4? Lower than 3500?
Are you talking about having an npc trainer with you like Cheryl or buck? The shiny odds remain the same being 1/8192 (or 1/4096 if it’s BDSP). You just get 2 encounters at once instead of 1
@@ThedomiNATION Ok but the odds are 4000 considering there is two of them? Much quicker to find a shiny this way? Two at once must make the odds more likely than 8000, surely?
@@CodPatrol No. The odds remain 1/8192 for each shiny. You just get the encounters faster. Your probability of finding a shiny increases with the increased encounter rate but having 2 Pokémon vs 1 doesn’t magically give each Pokémon a higher shiny rate. With that logic, then getting 8192 encounters would make the odds 1/1 meaning it’s guaranteed which that is far from the case
@@ThedomiNATION Yeah I mean getting two encounters at once improves the luck of finding one because there’s two possible that “could” spawn. Do you know of people who have tried it and had good experiences doing it compared to just regular running into grass?
@@CodPatrol as with any hunt. Some people will have good luck with it and others will have bad luck with it. You’ll get the encounters twice as fast but it’ll still take on average 8,192 encounters to find a shiny. So if you have access to one of those hunts, I’d recommend trying it out!
Does anybody have a emerald copy gba they could sell me? these prices are crazy 400 for a copy
I would look for Japanese copies. Those go for a lot cheaper! I recently bought a Japanese copy of Ruby last year for $18!
Amazing video! I can’t believe for years I thought the friend safari odds were 1/512, Then again I think most people did?
Yeah! It was only recently when we found out they weren’t! Crazy how we still learn things about games that are this old!
I have 2 shiny Mewtwo in pogo
I have done 2 Mewtwo raids
I also got a bacon bird on my 2nd yveltal raid
OMG I finally caught my very first shiny, a shiny ✨Psyduck✨ in Pokemon Diamond, and it took me about 45 mins as well once i got to chain 40!!!!!!!!! 😁 😎
Congrats!!!
Bro I got the magikarp in fire red in like 2 weeks same day I got it I soft reset for evee got it in 5 resets
That’s awesome! Congrats!
I appreciate it alot my luck was not good but it's much better now haha
in game trade pokemon can also be shiny in gen 1
It was included in the video!
Would the egg hatching in gen 2 not be the average percentage that it would be shiny so like 1,5% chance instead of the sum of 14% chance?
No. For the odd egg it is the sum of percentages. As the egg has a set chance of giving you a specific shiny Pokémon so to get any of them combined it would be all their percentages added up
@@ThedomiNATION thanks for the explanation