"Anything that puts food on my kids table is as real as it gets" That's one hell of a perspective and a good way to address that question that's so commonly asked about pro wrestling.
That has been the feeling for decades. Guys like Eddie Graham, Bob Roop, Bill Watts would beat you within an inch of your life. Even guys like Hogan, Bret, and Nash all have said if the champ is paid more its a shoot brother. Nowadays these guys all get paid the same, they don't get it.
@@MetlKen87 That's 100% true. It seems like not only has the room from creative freedom has gone way down, do to the micro management which killed the attitude era, but the overall integrity of the business is so so very dead.
I wholeheartedly agree . And I feel that WWE actually made him into more than WCW did . He got the WCW title towards the end and it was pretty much forgetable . He in my opinion got the best run out of anyone coming from WCW to WWF in the buyout .
Props to Booker T for calling out Mark Henry for being totally okay with Ronda Rousey using the word fake but had all the smoke for Ryback. Gotta keep that same energy.
Rousey and Ryback aren't the same though. You expect something like that from someone who had the business handed to them and are only there because it fell on their lap. Rousey was a decent celebrity crossover. Ryback was supposed to be an actual wrestler. He was in Tough Enough. He went through a couple gimmicks. He was actually in the business. He should know better
The context of the two comments though were completely different though. Ronda was frustrated with the fans and the way they were treating her she wasn’t trying to disrespect the women or the business she even said that in her video. Ryback is just being a weird bitter former wrestler where it comes across that Hess trying to diminish the business to hide his own failures in it
here's the thing. ronda was a "outsider". she had been wrestler for a little over a year or so. she was talented for a newbie but she wasn't in the business long enough to really get it. when she called it fake, it was a bit upsetting but understandable since she wasn't really deep into this world. she was still looking at it from a outsider's perspective. cryback, OTOH, has been in this business a good long while. long enough to get work with legends and world class talent and even get a run with the IC belt. he should know better but as we've seen, he has no respect for the business that he uses to make money off of or he wouldn't be teasing going to AEW and still calls himself by his WWE ring name.
"Fake" may be a popular word used to describe Pro Wrestling, but it's highly inaccurate, misleading, and disrespectful. The word "predetermined" would be the correct word to use. There are too many very "real" things about wrestling for it to be fake. The bumps, injuries, athleticism, and even the steel chairs are all as real as it gets. As far as titles being props, that is also not completely true. I understand why people think that, but Booker T is right when he says that you're representing the company when you're holding one of them. It's a huge deal, because it means that the company considers you talented enough to carry it. They don't put belts on just any wrestler. Also, movie props don't have any prestige like wrestling titles do. That alone proves that they are more then just props.
Actually, wrestling is fake. Why do people get so upset over the word fake. Fake definition: not genuine; imitation or counterfeit. Wrestling is supposedly a imitation of a fight. It is not a genuine fight. Which it is presented as in the show. People saying, but the bumps hurt are grasping at straws. No one said they didn't. The claim is that pro wrestling is a fake fight or fake contest. Which is accurate. It's not an actual contest. Predetermined is not better suited than fake. Predetermined suggest an actual fight with a planned ending. In predetermined or fixed fights, the fighters still throwing punches with intention to cause damage. Regardless a fight can both be fake and predetermined. They are not exclude each other. Besides, the bumps are an agreed to event and pain is the side effect. The intent is to do an impressive and damaging looking move not hurt the person. Under your logic you're literally suggesting movie fights scenes are not fake because there are scenes that actually hurt. Under your logic there can be no such thing as a fake fight. Again, your logic stuoulates those fake martial arts videos are not fake. They're predetermined. Because people do fall over and that could hurt or injure someone. Don't be so sensitive. Besides it doesn't hurt that bad compared to any combat or physical sport. The injuries are usually muscle strains and accidents. Or the reason for such high injury rates: frequency of impacts. Not the severity. When people say it's fake, it's okay to be like, yeah it's entertainment. Just like a movie or TV show. Arguing against the word fake just makes wrestling fans look like idiots to everyone else. It's fake and there's nothing wrong with that. Ryback is still a douche, though.
@@bluecollarscientist216 It's definitely entertainment. I never said it wasn't, but if you compare it to the movies you mention it is clearly far more real then that. Not just in terms of the bumps (and you have hugely downplayed how severe their injuries can be by the way), but also the characters. In film, people are always playing a character. In wrestling, that's often not completely true. Sometimes they definitely are playing a character, but many times it's just them being themselves for the most part. They will often take themselves and simply turn up the volume a couple of notches, as was certainly the case for Randy Savage.
@@JMFSpike everything you said is irrelevant to my points. The point is simple. Does wrestling fit the definition of fake. Fake means imitation or non genuine. 1. so is wrestling a non genuine fight or non genuine contest ? Of course. Predetermined falls under this category. 2. Is wrestling an attempt to present an imitation of an actual fight or contest? Yes. Therefore it satisfies the definition of fake. In fact in only needs to meet one of the above criteria.
I agree. Yes it's a wrestling show but the risks taken are real. The bumps are real. And (not so much now because of the pandemic) it's performed in front of a live crowd. In that regard wrestling is more real than most movies and TV shows.
The deepest quote about pro wrestling I've ever heard. If I use it to feed my son, to put a roof over my son's head, then it's as real as it gets. Bravo, Booker T. I salute you.
Ryback blames everyone else for his failures rather than accepting it could be him. Now he thinks being bitter online all the time will get him equally whiny fans.
The jumping, chair shots, slaps, holds all real what's pre-determined is outcome. These guys train to take the blows and go over the moves before match
You should use: Rey killing someone with his 619 Owen dropping Austin on his head Bob holly getting a huge laceration on his back Joey mercury and his face being smashed by a ladder Mick foley undertaker hell in a cell match. Kurt Shane kotr match belly to belly through glass panes. Is wrestling predetermined yes, storylines fake sure, but they put their body on the lines every night and if something goes wrong it can be a serious injury.
@@jtiller1223 - Undertaker dive over the top at Wrestlemania 25 - D'Lo Brown botching a piledriver on Droz and paralyzing him in the process - HBK getting back body dropped over the top rope on the casket and taking 4 years off his career. Just to name a few Hell Ryback forgot that he injuried CM Punk in the process. Twice.
My aunt asked me about wrestling being fake at 12 or 13. I didn't respond, but thought falling all over the place isn't fake. Bumps aren't fake! It's an art form. Larger than life heroes & villains.
That was a freak accident that could of been well avoided.. Tell me what Sport besides Racing that has 60 years old men winning matches against 25 years old men?
I couldn't have articulated that point better myself! Booker T winning the WCW World Title that last night on T.V. was one of the best and realest moments ever caught on tape! Well said Booker!
When you put in an undeniable amount of time, mental and physical energy at the highest level for a long period into something and are rewarded on the back end for said efforts, it's no longer a job. It's a passion. You wouldn't do it as long or as hard if you didn't love it or care. Thanks Booker and countless other greats who left it all in the ring, respected the legends before you, reflect, and continue to contribute to the next generation.
I still respect the workers that maintain kayfabe. Everybody knows its nothing but a live violent soap opera, but I like having suspension of disbelief. It makes the show sparkle that much more.
To me, wrestlers that maintain kayfabe aren't "actors that went too far with method acting", but rather people like Sia or Lady Gaga or Marilyn Manson, who show up at public events as their musical persona and nobody bats an eye. They are keeping kayfabe too, we all know they're not actually like that, but their mystique depends on that gimmick and they will keep it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Ronda Rousey said it as part of her "character work"....She was trying to get under the skin of people on purpose because she was turning heel. Before Covid hit, she was expected to make a return, and she was laying the ground work for her new persona....She said it the same way any heel says anything offensive...On purpose to piss people off. It was part of the show....At least that's how I took it. Plus it made more sense for her to say it, being a legit MMA Champion and Olympic medalist. Ryback on the other hand is just being a disrespectful, bitter jerk.
Wrestling is scripted and not fake, there are real life injuries and wrestlers spend all their energy to deliver a single match. Owen hart's death is an example of how dangerous professional wrestling is, one wrong move and it could be all over. I will always respect professional wrestlers be it of any organisation, Booker T is a legend and he is absolutely right in what he said.
Lowkey was thinkin the same g lol. Owen Harts death was a freak accident involving an already pretty risky stunt, if you know Perro Jr from AAA his death actually happened in the ring during a match and it was just a simple mistake. The smallest miscalculation in wrestling could cost you years of your life or worse. Droz was taking a basic powerbomb which nowadays is a pretty casual bump but back then it was match ending move, needless to say as Booker said Droz sadly was in a wheel-chair not long after... Shit even Edge just recently came back after he had like triple spinal surgery or somethin like that and he was retired from Wrestling for like a decade.
The only thing "Fake' about wrestling is the ending - Al Snow. Everything in wrestling from the entrance to 3 s before the pinfall is REAL. The things they do hurts, it requires stamina, strength and agility. Wrestling is a live stunt show where professionals get hurt.
I think the wording here is important too. Rhonda never said the business was fake. She was the fights were. Because she's a real fighter that's been through some seriously hard bouts in her time. She also has great respect for the business and the people in it. That's why she moved to wrestling. She wanted to be in it. Ryback, on the other hand, is a bitter man that doesn't seem to realise that most of his issues come about because he's such a dick. He needs to get some help man. Cause it ain't right to be that bitter.
Examine the MMA dynamic of it all. Rhonda Rousey, Shayna Bayzler, Brock Lesnar, Ken Shamrock and countless others. The only one that had something to say was Rhonda. My question would be, why?
Simple. If she does pro-wrestling wrong, she just says its fake. As its a good enough excuse to explain her lack of ability or actions. She has never been good at taking any form of criticism
Ppl have returned from much more heat. It seems Vince can get over any beef if there’s new potential for things to work out, or even to just give it another shot.
I am not a wrestler and never have been, but I will never say wrestling is fake, firstly becaue it isn't fake, those falls and moves hurt, and those wrestlers can and do get injured, sometimes seriously, and secondly they put themselves out there and in harm's way to support themselves and their families and to entertain the fans, to me that deserves respect
💯 I agree with everything Book said. I do believe Rousey is different from Ryback because she is a Heel Pro Wrestler with the company and that's instant heat for her.
Way I see it. It's not fake as it requires dedication and hard work along with conditioning and professionalism. Also when it comes to titles to keep the prestige in the eyes of the fans it has to be put on certain people at certain times. Some it's when they need the title and others the title needs them.
what booker said about the kid, hit home with me on what he said. when i was about 11 years old i was with my grandfather in brooklyn ny. first seen wrestling as my grandfather switched the channels. i was hooked. an uncle of mine was a promoter along with someone in brooklyn as well. this is during the time the wwwf/wwf as they went to the highschool gyms and other places for shows. many different vets and some current stars would be there. those vets also wrestled for various small independent shows in the area. one day a pizza was delivered to where i was with my grandfather. the pizza guy heard wrestling. he says, oh, im training to be a wrestler, i go to a gym and work out with some of them. then he said that four letter word of what it was. needless to say i was shocked. it killed at the time any asperations i had on wrestling. i guess my uncle was told of this. one day we got a knock on the door as we ordered another pizza. that same delivery guy was there with the pizza but had someone with him. that person was tony atlas. the pizza guy apologized to me and "explained" to me what he really meant by what he said. tony just stood there as that pizza guy said what he had to say. when he left, tony stayed a few more minutes talking with me and assured me to stick to watching it as well as furthering into wrestling.
Wrestling is predetermined not fake. The winner and the loser are known beforehand but the circumstances to get to the loss or victory are the variable you can't fake especially when things go wrong in the ring.
This is why Booker T was my favorite wrestler growing up. It was the WWF/E deception that upset me the most. As how they buried him and jobbed him hard. I was sick of Triple H and The Rock to an extent, and I loved them too, but Booker T was different. King Booker is the most memorable as well. Forever King Booker!
Rhonda is trying to get heat. Like a true heel. Ryback is simply bitter and trying to get heat. Both are doing it for attention and money but one is doing it out of spite and disrespect.
Ronda got a pass because she made her money and name in the UFC. In the context of the interview she called wrestling fake fighting because if someone fought 200 days a year they would be dead. Ryback called the business fake.
With all the accolades Booker T has experienced . I believe he should have earned more. He was a true wrestler that was over and the fans knew it and yet we were robbed of the true reward. I feel that at his prime he would have been one of the unarguable champions in the history of the business!!! I said it Booker and I will always have your back and thanks for the great entertainment and work you put into this business that I truly adore. God bless you and all you have done . Hall of famer !!!
If more people had the mindset that Booker T had while in the wrestling business, the wrestling business as a whole would be a much better business. To many marks/fanboys within the business that buy their own hype way to hard, and screws themselves.
My grandfather knew it was fake but watched it like it was a real as rain. Miss him I grew up watching WWF and WCW with him. Booker your a GOAT man good podcast
I remember i asked the late great Hall of Famer junkyard dog the same question when I was a kid about wrestling if it was fake he smiled and said you tell me I said I'm not sure he said that's for me to know and for you to figure out your self he called me and my brother Bebes kids it was a cartoon back in the 1990s he was doing a autograph signing in Walmart at Riverside California back in 95 or 96 he was a real cool guy Booker T's 100% right on how he feels about the wrestling business RIP JYD
You are right just wouldn’t call it inconsistency he is all about protecting the company and when a man like Ryback continues to bash the company that gave him a platform you never heard Cody go so deep he said he didn’t agree with creative you never heard Moxley bash the company just didn’t agree with creative
@@obrianthomas3661 What you would call it is irrelevant. It definitely is an inconsistency on his part. Also Cody's constant need to passive aggressively reference WWE is notable and tiresome, while Moxley does nothing but cry about the same story over and over again. At least Cody could be witty every once in awhile.
@@anonymousbo0318 not if he is bashing the company he use to work for if ryback attack pro wrestling as a whole then it would be a lot of others to say something but he attacked wwe since the day of his release which sounds a lil bitter to me
The difference between Rousey and Ryback's comments was the context and setting. Ronda came from a place where she is seen as "real" and can explain her feelings about it in kayfabe, or as a shoot. Ryback's come from a place of bitterness after having made poor choices.
Ive been involved in mma for over 20 years and im going to say one thing. Pro wrestling is NOT fake. They are all stunt men on a soap opera. Is it scripted? As far as what goes on during the match and the storyline and the kayfabe of each wrestler, yes its scripted. But accidents happen, just ask stone cold, droz or any other number of performers that have nearly lost their lives or owen hart that did die from a stunt gone wrong. It pisses me off when people say its "all fake". Bet if big show chest slapped any of these people or have Brock f5 those individuals that say its fake they would think very differently.
Yes, professional wrestling is a sport entertainment but the titles aren’t props is the symbolism of hard work and dedication. It’s literally everything that embodies obstacles. It’s real cold and it’s a real championship.
With regards to Rousey, I hope Henry and JBL were looking at it from the perspective of "hey, she's working everyone like an antagonist." If not, then they did contradict themselves.
As a long time fan of wrestling, it pisses me off when people call it fake. Ryback's problem is he has never been choke slammed through a cell, speared while dangling 20+ feet from the ring etc.
"Anything that puts food on my kids table is as real as it gets" That's one hell of a perspective and a good way to address that question that's so commonly asked about pro wrestling.
That has been the feeling for decades. Guys like Eddie Graham, Bob Roop, Bill Watts would beat you within an inch of your life. Even guys like Hogan, Bret, and Nash all have said if the champ is paid more its a shoot brother. Nowadays these guys all get paid the same, they don't get it.
@@MetlKen87 That's 100% true. It seems like not only has the room from creative freedom has gone way down, do to the micro management which killed the attitude era, but the overall integrity of the business is so so very dead.
@@MetlKen87and yeahI remember watching a reporter get slapped in the face on national TV, for commenting or asking if wrestling was fake.
Why would you respond to a ten year old like that ,Poor kid was looking for just a easy “no” 😂 😂
@@davidchamoro8948 It wasn't a kid, it was a news reporter.
No Book you are not a regular person. You are a national treasure.
Thanks Jack!
I wholeheartedly agree . And I feel that WWE actually made him into more than WCW did . He got the WCW title towards the end and it was pretty much forgetable . He in my opinion got the best run out of anyone coming from WCW to WWF in the buyout .
@@Randicles I Totally Agree. Him And Rvd
@@Randicles no he didn't he got buried by stone cold triple h and the rock and they put him with golddust
@@RealityOfWrestlingSome of the guys I wrestled with trained at your school
if Ryback thinks professional wrestling is fake why is he using the name RYBACK
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Because he is saying he is fake? Either that or he wants to be a living paradox.
He wants to be an actor, obviously.
Didn't he legally change his name Ryback or add it to his name legally?
Ryback created that name and he has to use it for his supplements he created.
“It’s not fake .....it’s Pre Determined there’s a difference “ Mark Henry
Props to Booker T for calling out Mark Henry for being totally okay with Ronda Rousey using the word fake but had all the smoke for Ryback. Gotta keep that same energy.
Rousey and Ryback aren't the same though. You expect something like that from someone who had the business handed to them and are only there because it fell on their lap. Rousey was a decent celebrity crossover. Ryback was supposed to be an actual wrestler. He was in Tough Enough. He went through a couple gimmicks. He was actually in the business. He should know better
The context of the two comments though were completely different though. Ronda was frustrated with the fans and the way they were treating her she wasn’t trying to disrespect the women or the business she even said that in her video. Ryback is just being a weird bitter former wrestler where it comes across that Hess trying to diminish the business to hide his own failures in it
here's the thing. ronda was a "outsider". she had been wrestler for a little over a year or so. she was talented for a newbie but she wasn't in the business long enough to really get it. when she called it fake, it was a bit upsetting but understandable since she wasn't really deep into this world. she was still looking at it from a outsider's perspective.
cryback, OTOH, has been in this business a good long while. long enough to get work with legends and world class talent and even get a run with the IC belt. he should know better but as we've seen, he has no respect for the business that he uses to make money off of or he wouldn't be teasing going to AEW and still calls himself by his WWE ring name.
Ronda came from the UFC. Cryback came from tough enough. It's not even close to equitable.
@@TheKingofKings2272 someone gets it. Good job
"Fake" may be a popular word used to describe Pro Wrestling, but it's highly inaccurate, misleading, and disrespectful. The word "predetermined" would be the correct word to use. There are too many very "real" things about wrestling for it to be fake. The bumps, injuries, athleticism, and even the steel chairs are all as real as it gets. As far as titles being props, that is also not completely true. I understand why people think that, but Booker T is right when he says that you're representing the company when you're holding one of them. It's a huge deal, because it means that the company considers you talented enough to carry it. They don't put belts on just any wrestler. Also, movie props don't have any prestige like wrestling titles do. That alone proves that they are more then just props.
The bumps are real. You can`t fake gravity.
@@robertwatson2834 I'm pretty sure Rey Fenix fakes gravity on a weekly basis though
Actually, wrestling is fake. Why do people get so upset over the word fake. Fake definition: not genuine; imitation or counterfeit. Wrestling is supposedly a imitation of a fight. It is not a genuine fight. Which it is presented as in the show. People saying, but the bumps hurt are grasping at straws. No one said they didn't. The claim is that pro wrestling is a fake fight or fake contest. Which is accurate. It's not an actual contest. Predetermined is not better suited than fake. Predetermined suggest an actual fight with a planned ending. In predetermined or fixed fights, the fighters still throwing punches with intention to cause damage. Regardless a fight can both be fake and predetermined. They are not exclude each other.
Besides, the bumps are an agreed to event and pain is the side effect. The intent is to do an impressive and damaging looking move not hurt the person. Under your logic you're literally suggesting movie fights scenes are not fake because there are scenes that actually hurt. Under your logic there can be no such thing as a fake fight. Again, your logic stuoulates those fake martial arts videos are not fake. They're predetermined. Because people do fall over and that could hurt or injure someone. Don't be so sensitive. Besides it doesn't hurt that bad compared to any combat or physical sport. The injuries are usually muscle strains and accidents. Or the reason for such high injury rates: frequency of impacts. Not the severity.
When people say it's fake, it's okay to be like, yeah it's entertainment. Just like a movie or TV show.
Arguing against the word fake just makes wrestling fans look like idiots to everyone else.
It's fake and there's nothing wrong with that.
Ryback is still a douche, though.
@@bluecollarscientist216 It's definitely entertainment. I never said it wasn't, but if you compare it to the movies you mention it is clearly far more real then that. Not just in terms of the bumps (and you have hugely downplayed how severe their injuries can be by the way), but also the characters. In film, people are always playing a character. In wrestling, that's often not completely true. Sometimes they definitely are playing a character, but many times it's just them being themselves for the most part. They will often take themselves and simply turn up the volume a couple of notches, as was certainly the case for Randy Savage.
@@JMFSpike everything you said is irrelevant to my points. The point is simple. Does wrestling fit the definition of fake.
Fake means imitation or non genuine.
1. so is wrestling a non genuine fight or non genuine contest ? Of course. Predetermined falls under this category.
2. Is wrestling an attempt to present an imitation of an actual fight or contest? Yes.
Therefore it satisfies the definition of fake.
In fact in only needs to meet one of the above criteria.
He took the words right out of my mouth, "Ask Droz how fake he thinks the business is"!! Well said Booker!!
Winning the World Wrestling Title is like winning a Grammy/Oscar, pretty much you are the best at preforming just like in movies and t.v.
Best way to put it.
@@RealityOfWrestling thank you
Best example I've heard to this day
But not everybody who wins is always actually considered the best. Hall and Perfect are Perfect examples.
No, it's like winning a world title or medal in any sport. Wrestling ain't acting!
My view is that while wrestling is scripted, it's definitely not fake in terms of skill/athleticism/talent needed and the toll it takes on your body!
Yep
I agree. Yes it's a wrestling show but the risks taken are real. The bumps are real. And (not so much now because of the pandemic) it's performed in front of a live crowd. In that regard wrestling is more real than most movies and TV shows.
The deepest quote about pro wrestling I've ever heard. If I use it to feed my son, to put a roof over my son's head, then it's as real as it gets. Bravo, Booker T. I salute you.
Ryback blames everyone else for his failures rather than accepting it could be him. Now he thinks being bitter online all the time will get him equally whiny fans.
All Ryback does is cry and complain...Usually with his mouth full during his RUclips Food Reviews 😂
@@mr.mirchenstein6549 It's just out of comedy. He would never cry and complain for real. Lol 😂
@@zoltanwilson4277 sure Ryback sock account #909097
@@MoeMoon OK....?
I wasn't even talking to you.
(Why the fuck do I still go in the RUclips comments running into attention seeking losers 😑)
Yup his complaints about wwe got old and repetitive sounds like a sore loser lol
Much love to Booker T! Fan since Day 1.
Booker always looks like he could main event a show lmao,
a interracial show banging housewives
@@MrMuaythai84 Leave it to the chinese to be racist, first COVID. And now racism.
@ThaBUDGuy 420 no shit sherlock
@@MrMuaythai84 racist and dirty
@ThaBUDGuy 420 you did
I have so much respect for Booker T.. Keep the videos coming...
Well said, Book!
Facts 💯
Agreed 100%
I agree with Booker T. If wrestling was fake then people wouldn't get hurt. I'll expect a outsider to think something like that but not a wrestler.
Stunt man get hurt and even killed in movies. Shits real
Wrestling outcomes are scripted they are fake
News Flash Pro Wrestling is FAKE ..
The jumping, chair shots, slaps, holds all real what's pre-determined is outcome. These guys train to take the blows and go over the moves before match
@@canttouchthis6439 Pro Wrestling is like travelling circus.. it tells a story to the amusement of the the crowd that is watching
Mark Henry gets upset about everything. Though he is correct. Ryback only makes news when he says stupid things like this.
Booker is pure knowledge. I enjoy hearing him talk
If wrestling was 100% fake Owen Hart and many others would still be with us.
So many wrestlers have died in the ring.
Own heart died by accident in ring
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You should use:
Rey killing someone with his 619
Owen dropping Austin on his head
Bob holly getting a huge laceration on his back
Joey mercury and his face being smashed by a ladder
Mick foley undertaker hell in a cell match.
Kurt Shane kotr match belly to belly through glass panes.
Is wrestling predetermined yes, storylines fake sure, but they put their body on the lines every night and if something goes wrong it can be a serious injury.
@@jtiller1223
- Undertaker dive over the top at Wrestlemania 25
- D'Lo Brown botching a piledriver on Droz and paralyzing him in the process
- HBK getting back body dropped over the top rope on the casket and taking 4 years off his career.
Just to name a few
Hell Ryback forgot that he injuried CM Punk in the process. Twice.
My aunt asked me about wrestling being fake at 12 or 13. I didn't respond, but thought falling all over the place isn't fake. Bumps aren't fake! It's an art form. Larger than life heroes & villains.
If Ryback feels that way then his injuries must be fake too 🤷♂️
If wrestling was fake then Darren Drosdov would still be walking around.
Not to mention droz being in a wheelchair
@@k57998 that is droz dummy
@@tayg8370 😂😂😂😂
Damn right Booker. The rocks music says it all. "Know your roll and shut your mouth"
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Booker you definitely are The Man!
Tell owen hart's family it's fake
That was a freak accident that could of been well avoided.. Tell me what Sport besides Racing that has 60 years old men winning matches against 25 years old men?
Don't Bite The Hand That Fed (Feeds) is on of the the most simple things do wrong in the moment
Ima bout to listen to nine inch nails right now
I couldn't have articulated that point better myself! Booker T winning the WCW World Title that last night on T.V. was one of the best and realest moments ever caught on tape! Well said Booker!
I'd love to also hear the Bob Holly response on Ryback's comments! LMAO!
Been a fan of Pro Wrestling for most of my Life and it still pisses me off to this day when people call it "Fake"
When you put in an undeniable amount of time, mental and physical energy at the highest level for a long period into something and are rewarded on the back end for said efforts, it's no longer a job. It's a passion. You wouldn't do it as long or as hard if you didn't love it or care.
Thanks Booker and countless other greats who left it all in the ring, respected the legends before you, reflect, and continue to contribute to the next generation.
I remember bash at the beach 2000 the best thing was seeing Booker T get the world title
Punk also called it fake and expects wwe to welcome him back with open arms
Then got shown up when he tried going to ufc lol
Well WWE was begging him to come back..
Ryback was the poor man's Goldberg
Lmao😂😂..so damn true.
I still respect the workers that maintain kayfabe. Everybody knows its nothing but a live violent soap opera, but I like having suspension of disbelief. It makes the show sparkle that much more.
To me, wrestlers that maintain kayfabe aren't "actors that went too far with method acting", but rather people like Sia or Lady Gaga or Marilyn Manson, who show up at public events as their musical persona and nobody bats an eye. They are keeping kayfabe too, we all know they're not actually like that, but their mystique depends on that gimmick and they will keep it.
Ryback was not even a good wrestler. He made so many botches in his matches
But hey guys, he caught Kalisto that one time!
For real
Real wrestling ain't fake so there ain't no botches
@@captdaddy i do that to my gf all the time she say 69 i do a 360
Shout out to Booker T....my guy much love
One of my fav podcasts on RUclips . I like the energy guys
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Ronda Rousey said it as part of her "character work"....She was trying to get under the skin of people on purpose because she was turning heel. Before Covid hit, she was expected to make a return, and she was laying the ground work for her new persona....She said it the same way any heel says anything offensive...On purpose to piss people off. It was part of the show....At least that's how I took it. Plus it made more sense for her to say it, being a legit MMA Champion and Olympic medalist.
Ryback on the other hand is just being a disrespectful, bitter jerk.
100% .. there’s a difference, coming from an accomplished UFC star it would make sense to use that angle as a way to get over as a heel.
Wrestling is scripted and not fake, there are real life injuries and wrestlers spend all their energy to deliver a single match. Owen hart's death is an example of how dangerous professional wrestling is, one wrong move and it could be all over. I will always respect professional wrestlers be it of any organisation, Booker T is a legend and he is absolutely right in what he said.
That's not a Good Example
Lowkey was thinkin the same g lol. Owen Harts death was a freak accident involving an already pretty risky stunt, if you know Perro Jr from AAA his death actually happened in the ring during a match and it was just a simple mistake. The smallest miscalculation in wrestling could cost you years of your life or worse. Droz was taking a basic powerbomb which nowadays is a pretty casual bump but back then it was match ending move, needless to say as Booker said Droz sadly was in a wheel-chair not long after... Shit even Edge just recently came back after he had like triple spinal surgery or somethin like that and he was retired from Wrestling for like a decade.
The only thing "Fake' about wrestling is the ending - Al Snow.
Everything in wrestling from the entrance to 3 s before the pinfall is REAL. The things they do hurts, it requires stamina, strength and agility. Wrestling is a live stunt show where professionals get hurt.
Well said!
I think the wording here is important too. Rhonda never said the business was fake. She was the fights were. Because she's a real fighter that's been through some seriously hard bouts in her time. She also has great respect for the business and the people in it. That's why she moved to wrestling. She wanted to be in it. Ryback, on the other hand, is a bitter man that doesn't seem to realise that most of his issues come about because he's such a dick. He needs to get some help man. Cause it ain't right to be that bitter.
Kevin Nash Called the business fake.. nobody said anything about it.
Yo booker big facts I agree talk what you know not what you think 🤔
Examine the MMA dynamic of it all. Rhonda Rousey, Shayna Bayzler, Brock Lesnar, Ken Shamrock and countless others. The only one that had something to say was Rhonda. My question would be, why?
I wish she had that same energy with Amanda nunes
Simple. If she does pro-wrestling wrong, she just says its fake. As its a good enough excuse to explain her lack of ability or actions. She has never been good at taking any form of criticism
Booker T has a lot of class, If I was a pro wrestler feeding my family with it, I'll be on my way to see Skippy.
Very good booker call out as you see it.
Safe to say Ryback has burned his bridge back to the WWE
they never wanted him back
Flame on🔥
Ppl have returned from much more heat.
It seems Vince can get over any beef if there’s new potential for things to work out, or even to just give it another shot.
Ppl Like Sting & Ric Flair & Dusty Rhodes & Undertaker Terry Funk Put They Life In This Business
I can answer the Rhonda Rousey thing in two words.....
UNDENIABLE TALENT!
I am not a wrestler and never have been, but I will never say wrestling is fake, firstly becaue it isn't fake, those falls and moves hurt, and those wrestlers can and do get injured, sometimes seriously, and secondly they put themselves out there and in harm's way to support themselves and their families and to entertain the fans, to me that deserves respect
I guess they gave Ronda a pass cause she don't know the business more than Ryback
“Never knock the hand” I think the phrase is never bite the hand that feeds you. It references a dog being fed.
Well said book
💯 I agree with everything Book said. I do believe Rousey is different from Ryback because she is a Heel Pro Wrestler with the company and that's instant heat for her.
True plus as a heel and coming from MMA it was part of her character. Henry was part of WWE at that point and would know that was a work.
Movie's endings are pre determined... movies are entertainment... you still watch movies... it's your entrainment... wrestling is entertainment
Real Wisdom here real education
Facts booker keeping it real and calling out the bs
I always liked #BookerT. He, always keeps it real. Would like him, to help me become a Professional Wrestler on his Reality Of Wrestling......
Way I see it. It's not fake as it requires dedication and hard work along with conditioning and professionalism. Also when it comes to titles to keep the prestige in the eyes of the fans it has to be put on certain people at certain times. Some it's when they need the title and others the title needs them.
what booker said about the kid, hit home with me on what he said. when i was about 11 years old i was with my grandfather in brooklyn ny. first seen wrestling as my grandfather switched the channels. i was hooked. an uncle of mine was a promoter along with someone in brooklyn as well. this is during the time the wwwf/wwf as they went to the highschool gyms and other places for shows. many different vets and some current stars would be there. those vets also wrestled for various small independent shows in the area. one day a pizza was delivered to where i was with my grandfather. the pizza guy heard wrestling. he says, oh, im training to be a wrestler, i go to a gym and work out with some of them. then he said that four letter word of what it was. needless to say i was shocked. it killed at the time any asperations i had on wrestling. i guess my uncle was told of this. one day we got a knock on the door as we ordered another pizza. that same delivery guy was there with the pizza but had someone with him. that person was tony atlas. the pizza guy apologized to me and "explained" to me what he really meant by what he said. tony just stood there as that pizza guy said what he had to say. when he left, tony stayed a few more minutes talking with me and assured me to stick to watching it as well as furthering into wrestling.
Thanks Booker T
I did like ryback in wwe , but I never listen to his podcasts, he is just a bitter old man now still trying to make a living off of something he hates
Man booker my mama got holes in her walls cause of you bro😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣”LIVING LEGEND”💯
Book you a legend ryback will never be dont sweat him
Wrestling is predetermined not fake. The winner and the loser are known beforehand but the circumstances to get to the loss or victory are the variable you can't fake especially when things go wrong in the ring.
I remember watching Booker T in WCW all the way to now it's nice to see him doing so well please come back King Booker
Ryback's picture should be in the dictionary when you look up the words "Salty" & "Bitter"
This is why Booker T was my favorite wrestler growing up. It was the WWF/E deception that upset me the most. As how they buried him and jobbed him hard. I was sick of Triple H and The Rock to an extent, and I loved them too, but Booker T was different.
King Booker is the most memorable as well. Forever King Booker!
I’m a old school WCW guy and I have had fights at school because people would call wrestling fake
Calling wrestling fake is like calling baseball fake, until you take a line drive to the head.
Facts
Booker T I love you .
Rhonda is trying to get heat. Like a true heel. Ryback is simply bitter and trying to get heat. Both are doing it for attention and money but one is doing it out of spite and disrespect.
Ronda got a pass because she made her money and name in the UFC. In the context of the interview she called wrestling fake fighting because if someone fought 200 days a year they would be dead. Ryback called the business fake.
Love Booker perspective and he’s right they are both wrong and he could’ve easily sided with Mark Henry. Very mature take.
Booker T is not a regular person, he's royalty, King Bookah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well said booker T
I love Booker T so much.
Wrestler calling it fake , it’s disrespectful to those that died being in that life of wrestler
It's fake.. Deal with it..
Remember the Best, Forget the Rest...Attitude of Gratitude 💯💯
great points by Booker
With all the accolades Booker T has experienced . I believe he should have earned more. He was a true wrestler that was over and the fans knew it and yet we were robbed of the true reward. I feel that at his prime he would have been one of the unarguable champions in the history of the business!!! I said it Booker and I will always have your back and thanks for the great entertainment and work you put into this business that I truly adore. God bless you and all you have done . Hall of famer !!!
If more people had the mindset that Booker T had while in the wrestling business, the wrestling business as a whole would be a much better business.
To many marks/fanboys within the business that buy their own hype way to hard, and screws themselves.
Anybody on the roster can be the champion. Strowman won the tag championship with a kid.
My grandfather knew it was fake but watched it like it was a real as rain. Miss him I grew up watching WWF and WCW with him. Booker your a GOAT man good podcast
The Dark Knight has real punches in it (to Heath ledger) it doesn’t mean Batman is real.
I remember i asked the late great Hall of Famer junkyard dog the same question when I was a kid about wrestling if it was fake he smiled and said you tell me I said I'm not sure he said that's for me to know and for you to figure out your self he called me and my brother Bebes kids it was a cartoon back in the 1990s he was doing a autograph signing in Walmart at Riverside California back in 95 or 96 he was a real cool guy Booker T's 100% right on how he feels about the wrestling business RIP JYD
I think Mark Henry's inconsistency has to do wit Rousey still being employed by WWE and Ryback not.
She never disrespect the title tho
You are right just wouldn’t call it inconsistency he is all about protecting the company and when a man like Ryback continues to bash the company that gave him a platform you never heard Cody go so deep he said he didn’t agree with creative you never heard Moxley bash the company just didn’t agree with creative
@@obrianthomas3661 What you would call it is irrelevant. It definitely is an inconsistency on his part.
Also Cody's constant need to passive aggressively reference WWE is notable and tiresome, while Moxley does nothing but cry about the same story over and over again. At least Cody could be witty every once in awhile.
@@anonymousbo0318 not if he is bashing the company he use to work for if ryback attack pro wrestling as a whole then it would be a lot of others to say something but he attacked wwe since the day of his release which sounds a lil bitter to me
The difference between Rousey and Ryback's comments was the context and setting.
Ronda came from a place where she is seen as "real" and can explain her feelings about it in kayfabe, or as a shoot.
Ryback's come from a place of bitterness after having made poor choices.
Facts she should have been checked and have him on the show??
Ive been involved in mma for over 20 years and im going to say one thing. Pro wrestling is NOT fake. They are all stunt men on a soap opera. Is it scripted? As far as what goes on during the match and the storyline and the kayfabe of each wrestler, yes its scripted. But accidents happen, just ask stone cold, droz or any other number of performers that have nearly lost their lives or owen hart that did die from a stunt gone wrong. It pisses me off when people say its "all fake". Bet if big show chest slapped any of these people or have Brock f5 those individuals that say its fake they would think very differently.
Yes, professional wrestling is a sport entertainment but the titles aren’t props is the symbolism of hard work and dedication. It’s literally everything that embodies obstacles. It’s real cold and it’s a real championship.
I don't blame Mark Henry, you know how long it took for him to get the belt, vs other people who they just put it on who don't deserve the belt
Booker T and Ryback are both awesome. Wish they could have a match with each other.
He's just a bitter and envious guy & has been ever since his career flopped in the wwe. Even Punk seems a lot better than Ryback now...
With regards to Rousey, I hope Henry and JBL were looking at it from the perspective of "hey, she's working everyone like an antagonist." If not, then they did contradict themselves.
Wow I love booker t so much
As a long time fan of wrestling, it pisses me off when people call it fake. Ryback's problem is he has never been choke slammed through a cell, speared while dangling 20+ feet from the ring etc.
the way how booker T talks, reminds me of Macho man....
Booker T.....you are the man....period.
Anyone else listen to Jim Cornette Bury Ryback on his views on the business?
Loving the black and white TNA photo!