You do a remarkable job explaining concepts. Unlike most RUclipsrs who use jargon or tell their audience to Google an idea or technical thing, you really break it down well. Good job!
Well basically he also googles stuff but people are just too lazy to do it themselves. So if you can't google something yourself don't blame another youtube who doesn't want to go through the same process you yourself don't want to go through because that's stupid.
I'm from Alabama, and when I saw that this video is on crop factors I thought that it was going to be about farming. My chickens and I are very disappointed ...
Just for general information APS is for "Advanced Photo System" also known as Advantix film the film format that was the bridge (or pretended to be) between film and digital in a smaller size that had 3 variarions in with and one of those was "C" for classic format 3:2 that was 25.1x16.7 and that why crop sensor cameras are APS-C 😉
I HAVE SONY FX3, i have SIGMA 20 mm T1.5 (WITH THE SIGMA MC11 mount adapter as the lens is natively an EF lens) I use it in full frame, and APSC mode, you mean in this case it is better than a native 35 mm lens( a full frame lens) for video?
Love the video. As someone who HAS experience of shooting 35mm movie film, I'm always rather amused when people suggest you can only get cinematic depth of field by using full frame. The very 'filmic appearance' they're referring to was actually created using a film area equivalent to today's super 35 sensors ie a CROP frame format. Also, in movie film terms, we never referred to lenses by focal lengths, but by field of view, in other words, you would mount a lens that you knew gave you a 30°, 50°, 90° field of view, or whatever, irrespective of the focal length. Very fast primes would be used to achieve shallow depth of field, or, more usually, longer fast primes used at a distance.
That is true! I upgraded from a Panasonic g7 to an Sony a7iii so as far as camera quality and options the upgrade was needed. But I still have my Panasonic and use it from time to time. :) But had I not upgraded I would have bought a metabones for sure.
yeah i got the gh5 and the a7iii is definitely better. I didn't know how much i needed lowlight capabilities until i had to work around the gh5's shitty lowlight. i dont want to spend the money though lol
I have both. They both serve their own purposes! The GH5's IBIS is insane and the size of a telephoto lens is awesome, and 4k 60! Flip out screen, touch screen, etc. The A7iii is nearly a no go for most handheld shots.
Great video! But one thing I don't get: at 2:14 why is the height of a frame fixed? Why didn't they just make the camera and projector advance the film a shorter step for each frame, then you could pack 16:9 or even 2:1 at full density. Was there a mechanical reason that prevented it? It would require a different projector, maybe? Or because you'd have less film and hence less resolution per frame?
With my sony a7r3 you can choose to go apsc mode or full. You can also attach apsc lenses and full lenses making it a pretty versatile camera for video and photography.
Right and Wrong in several places. 1. Finally someone puts my lectures together and actually gets viewers! Well done! 2. Super 35 is IMHO the ideal general purpose video sensor size and absolutely ideal for Documentaries. For all the reasons you mentioned. FF is lovely if you have time, are shooting a feature film, w/ a tight storyboard and AC on crew. Interestingly, I discovered that M43 and even smaller sensors (1-2/3") rock my UCU and macro world in both movie and stills! You guessed it, innately greater DOF essential for keeping smaller/closer subjects in focus without exaggerated stopping down . That explains why smartphones are rocking our world. The sweetness comes in when you own a larger sensor camera such as the Panasonic S1H, cause you get selective sensor cropping !
I always feel knowing your camera and the gear you use. Knowing where it excels and it's shortfalls is always a bigger difference then the specs it has.
I laughed so hard at the "someone get me an abacus quick" that I woke my 4 month old daughter, totally worth. One of my favorite youtubers, you teach and entertain. You give a lot of value to your viewers for their time. Love for you to shoot The Ultimate Hockey Fan Cave one day. Keep the videos coming!
I've watched a few of your vids but *this vid* was the one that finally made me sub because it was replete with qualities that are rare online: it was calm, cogent, educational, FUNNY and, most importantly, non-partisan. I think you're up there with the best of the best when it comes to camera reviews / info. I appreciate that you put a metric shit ton of work into what you do ~ it pays off, dude. It really does. MTFBWY and LLAP. 🖖🏽
Wow Guys this is so exciting. I'm a new photographer and your videos have been teaching me so much, I know your book will help me learn so much more. love you guys and can't wait to see where you guys go from here
I went from Full Frame to Micro 4/3 & Speedbooster. wooo man being able to keep things in focus while still getting some light is great. Full frame is so tough to focus for video. I do have full frame for photography still though. Can't beat that.
You can use APS-C lenses on a lot, if not most, FF cameras. The Z6 and the A7iii both are capable of working with FF and APS-C. The Z series can work with nearly the entire nikon F line.
This was great Potato! A nice clear explanation for all those wondering about this stuff. I'm partial to sticking to my APS-C camera right now myself, although I'm not investing in APS-C lenses for sake of any future move to full frame. I do like photography as well, so it would be cool down the road. I do dig that my camera is so small, even if somewhat dwarfed by my lenses.
Nice video, but just a note that sensor size has nothing to do with shallow depth of field. What you have to do is to compensate the field of view with a longer focal length (which will actually produce a shallower depth of field), or to get closer (which will also produce a shallower depth of field, but may also cause some perspective distortion) I say this because I'm going the other way around (from photography to video) and I record videos with both my cropped sensor dslr (Nikon D7000) and my full frame (D750). Thanks for the vid! Cheers
A few Netflix shows have used full frame sensors and I’ve gotta say you can tell the difference between the full frame and super-35. The super 35 images look compressed (not a bad thing) and the full frame images have a 3D pop effect. I use both and enjoy both, though I do prefer the full frame aesthetics.
get a speedbooster, and use your new (or cheap old) FF lenses on your APS-C camera body.. I highly recommend it so you can have most of FF sensor quality image and FOV on APS-C digital camera. it's like having 35mm camera FOV and of course you got 1 Fstop more light.. which also kicks ass!
Thank you for the explanation. I learnt something new. I use a Sony A5100 with an APS-C sensor. I bought it not knowing what It meant. Later thought of buying a new camera with a full frame sensor. Now I know the difference for real. Thank you so much
Dude you're awesome! I already know most of the stuff you talk about because I'm a cinematographer based in New Delhi trying to make it big (LOL) but it's good to have someone talk about concepts, that too in a fun way like you do. Sort of reinforces what I know. Love the videos you post. :)
They're called perforations or perfs. 35mm still film is 8 perf horizontal, whereas 35mm motion picture film is 4 perfs vertical. In order to create widescreen, you can either cut off the top and bottom, use anamorphic lenses, or shoot super 35mm, which only uses 3 perfs on one side.
just shot a outdoors day event (lowrider picnic) using A BLACK PRO MIST FILTER stacked with a ND filter. These really improve the visuals big time. I shoot with a D3200 Nikon Crop Senor DSLR and 35mm kit lens. And Mavic mini drone. You guys can stop by ... I just learned about crop and full frame last Sunday. Thanks man!
A cropped lens actually has a lower depth of field at the same focal length. It's just that moving back or going to a shorter focal length also raises the depth of field. Then you have to lower the aperture to compensate. 200mm/f2 on a full frame has the same effect has 100mm/f1 on a micro four thirds. The diameter of the lens opening actually ends up being the same.
Potato Jet, thank you for taking a confusing topic and explaining it so simply that a young child could understand it. Yes, I would like to see a side by side comparison between full frame and smaller sensor sizes.
Jet, that's it. I'm a fan of your channel. Please do a video on some recomended lenses to buy for canon EF-S /M for shooting with the M50 in every situation. Budget wise will be nice if someone is thinking on starting with the M50 and thene plans to upgrade to something like the 90D to have more flexibility
Been shooting APS-C bodies professionally for many years. Clients are always happy. No plans to go FF anytime soon. Image IQ is great everywhere these days, regardless of sensor size. And in my work I don't care about low-light performance and shooting wide open.
That was easily the best explanation of cropped sensor I've seen. Fantastically well done! As for the Canon 1DX II versus M50 for video. No contest. I tried the M50 for a day and hated it, couldn't ship it back fast enough. I do come from a wildlife photography background, transitioning to video, but I'm used to all the great video features of the 1DX II and the extremely precise focus. Found you through Matti. Looking forward to following you feed.
I use a 18-135 lens I bought with my Nikon d80 in 2008 with my D750. I don’t know about Canon, but Nikon has a quick change crop button that can go between the three different sensors sizes.
Great video, with excellent explanations of the two formats. Basically, what is now described as APS-C crop is equivalent to 35mm movie film, and what us known as full frame is more like the old VistaVision. I tend to be rather amused by what I term as 'full frame snobs' who choose to forget that, in DSLR terms, APS-C was THE original digital format for quite some time, so full frame is actually more like the 70mm overblown cousin to cinema's 35mm🤔😏😀
The difference in quality may vary depending on the projection platform. So say you project a crop sensor image to a jumbo theater screen, you may see a difference vs a full frame sensor image on a theatrical scale.
5:00 actaully the lens sizes would be the same for ff and smaller sensors if you wanted the same image. You are using a 10-18mm f3.5-5.6 lens on crop, the ff equivalent would be a 16-29mm f5.6-9 lens. both would be same size and weight.
Thanks man. It is great to hear from someone that has experience with all kinds of cameras and lenses who still uses the M50 daily. Even though I think you've now bailed on it for the R and the BM Pocket right? Still over here shooting on the M50. What lens do you suggest for low light vlogging? Or should we just slap the 10 on and a light? Bought ours with the 18-55 but want a bit more. If you're bored someday come check out our channel and see what we do with the M50 and LumaFusion. Thanks Spud!
3 factors affect depth of field: 1. Aperture, 2. Subject to Camera Distance and 3. Focal Length. The sensor size by itself is not what affects the depth of field. Is the focal distance that needs to decrease to have an equivalent field of view on a full frame sensor as opposed to a smaller one. For example: A 24mm lens on a full frame camera gives you a field of view of 24mm. If you take that same 24mm lens and mount it on an APS-C sensor (1.5x for this example) the field of view will be equivalent to a 36mm lens but the focal distance remains the same at 24mm, is the field of view that changed to an ‘equivalent’ of 36mm (as if you would be looking through a 36mm). If you would actually use a 24mm equivalent on a APS-C sensor, 17mm would be the closest, to have the same field of view as a 24mm on a full frame sensor then only then only then the depth of field would be wider but this wouldn’t be due to the sensor size but because of the shorter focal length of 17mm.
Holey part is the sprocket holes. They can put audio data outside AND between the sprocket holes to maximise image size up to the holes, hence "super" 35. Non-super 35 left gap between image and holes for old style analog audio tracks and hence image was quite a bit smaller still. There's also hard/soft matte and anamorphic but that's a whole other thing.
That was an awesome video and I thank you so much for breaking down the "crop factor" in detail and sharing your knowledge. Thank you for helping creators.
Back in the day I shot on 16mm film which had the optical sound printed down the side which restricted the frame size. They bought out Super 16mm which left out the optical sound (separate sound recording) which allowed a wider frame size.
VERY NICE VID! Considering getting a 6D Mark II as a first Canon camera, EOS R just came out and the internet has confused me on which to get. Overall I think we've become obsessed with camera stats instead of trying to learn how to shoot quality content. Going with the 6D Mark II soon!
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oh yes, that is exactly what I want to see. Also see a comparison with speedbooster on the M50 would be very interesting.
I have a question . Most people that are beginning with “movie making” often look around for the best body and buy a crapy lens. Tell me is it better to buy like a 70d and a 18-55mm lens, or get rid of the great af and touch screen, and for the same price get a 60d but with a 24mm f2.8 mm lens. Potato Jet whats better?
I would sign up on a course that: General practical guidelines on starting out as a filmmaker, including rules of thumb about lenses and camera setup. I know it may sound impossible to do a general course on such a massive content. BUT here is the thing, I think you can do it and perhaps one of very few that can. Look forward to see what you will come up with. I know it is a video from 2018 but still I think you would manage to make a classic course. No pressure.
Hi :-) First of, love your vid, nicely done :-) Little thing I wanted to point out around 5"18.... where you say you can't use a FF lense on a APS-C cam... I'm sure you know, but beginners don't: some FF (=full frame) lenses work well on APS-C cam... and here come the interesting part: you'll augment the "zoom" factor of the ff lens on the aps-c cam... Mount a FF lense 100mm on an aps-c, and you'll get a (my crop factor is 1,6) 100x1,6=160mm lens ... (and please, correct me if I'm wrong!!!) :-) Thanks again for sharing this!!!!!!
Hey Mr Potatoe, can I know which lense you are using on your current shooting on canon 80d right now? I try to find a lense that can capture enough background in crop sensor camera. Cheers & thanks!
Great explanation of the different sensor sizes. I had no idea what the difference was between full frame 35mm and super 35mm. Makes perfect sense now. Also, I didn't know that a lot of video cameras had the smaller super 35mm sensors. I just assumed the high end cinema cameras had huge sensors. Thanks, now I don't feel so bad shooting video on my ASP-C sensor :D.
3:41 only for Canon's APS-C, all other brands have a 1.5 crop factor. Normal APS-C is 18x24mm (if someone knows why Canon decided to go for 1.6 and a smaller sensor, I'm open especially since like Pentax, Sony, Nikon, Fuji... they use the same range of lenses... so a 18-55 on a Canon is a 29-88 when it's a 27-83mm for other brands)
I have an idea for an autofocus system, a barcode like scanning laser up where the logo normally goes on a sony/canon/nikon full frame mirrorless or DSLR, the height of the laser sweep adjusts to match your focus point, and that little scanning octogon mirror can pan an infrared laser over that point hundreds of times per second(8 times per revolution) giving the camera an exact distance to focus on how far it has to go to get there(so it doesnt overshoot by much), and more importantly, which direction the subject has moved during filming(reducing focus hunting), sure you'd still need contrast focus to get it more accurate because lenses do change, 15m focus might be 16m on a hot day but still, knowing where the focus needs to be, instantly, and knowing of any changes instantly(and in which direction the lens needs to focus) will make focus happen much faster and more reliably, instead of the 50/50 focus hunting method that often includes a distracting overshoot(possibly two),. with real time data, i would say that this system might be able to replace phase detect autofocus, though to be able to work in direct sunlight i expect the laser to be too powerful to be safe. If the camera's sensor was used to identify the laser sweep, it could easily see that the data it is getting is for the focus point, just use an an IR cut electronic filter to make the IR laser not visible(an allow for IR photography from the factory), though using the main sensor might not be precise enough and a seperate IR sensor might be needed for exact timing. the time it takes the full sensor to refresh might only allow for measurement in several meters or even thousands of meteres, instead of inches/centimeters/decimeters for something dedicated to laser distance measuring
Sensor size doesn't affect depth of field, its the longer focal length when compared to smaller sensors. When the field of view is the same, so is the depth of field.
Shooting with a camera like the 80D, what are you doing about color? You don't have a flat profile like Canon Log, right? Do you color grade your videos? Thanks!
If you're into APSC, what do you think about the Fujifilm X-T3 ? It's recently out, and it's been touted as the king of APSC for both photos and videos.
You do a remarkable job explaining concepts. Unlike most RUclipsrs who use jargon or tell their audience to Google an idea or technical thing, you really break it down well. Good job!
Maybe it’s a good thing I have a vocabulary of a 10 year old. Lol
Potato Jet LOL as do we. :D
Well basically he also googles stuff but people are just too lazy to do it themselves. So if you can't google something yourself don't blame another youtube who doesn't want to go through the same process you yourself don't want to go through because that's stupid.
@@PotatoJet :D
Nicely done. So what you are saying is never shoot vertical. I agree.
I'm from Alabama, and when I saw that this video is on crop factors I thought that it was going to be about farming. My chickens and I are very disappointed ...
Johnny Guitar I hope this is true
Johnny Guitar username checks out.
Lol! I love this! 😂
Johny Guitar...good one! Video shooting...it had to be highlighted in the very first sentence.
🤣
Just for general information APS is for "Advanced Photo System" also known as Advantix film the film format that was the bridge (or pretended to be) between film and digital in a smaller size that had 3 variarions in with and one of those was "C" for classic format 3:2 that was 25.1x16.7 and that why crop sensor cameras are APS-C 😉
I HAVE SONY FX3, i have SIGMA 20 mm T1.5 (WITH THE SIGMA MC11 mount adapter as the lens is natively an EF lens) I use it in full frame, and APSC mode, you mean in this case it is better than a native 35 mm lens( a full frame lens) for video?
Love the video. As someone who HAS experience of shooting 35mm movie film, I'm always rather amused when people suggest you can only get cinematic depth of field by using full frame. The very 'filmic appearance' they're referring to was actually created using a film area equivalent to today's super 35 sensors ie a CROP frame format. Also, in movie film terms, we never referred to lenses by focal lengths, but by field of view, in other words, you would mount a lens that you knew gave you a 30°, 50°, 90° field of view, or whatever, irrespective of the focal length. Very fast primes would be used to achieve shallow depth of field, or, more usually, longer fast primes used at a distance.
I just switched to full frame from micro 4/3 and I have to say I am not disappointed at all. Except for maybe the price of the lenses haha.
Add a speed booster to manual lens and you get full frame light...
That is true! I upgraded from a Panasonic g7 to an Sony a7iii so as far as camera quality and options the upgrade was needed. But I still have my Panasonic and use it from time to time. :) But had I not upgraded I would have bought a metabones for sure.
yeah i got the gh5 and the a7iii is definitely better. I didn't know how much i needed lowlight capabilities until i had to work around the gh5's shitty lowlight. i dont want to spend the money though lol
I have both. They both serve their own purposes! The GH5's IBIS is insane and the size of a telephoto lens is awesome, and 4k 60! Flip out screen, touch screen, etc. The A7iii is nearly a no go for most handheld shots.
Doesn't A7iii have IBIS too?
Great video! But one thing I don't get: at 2:14 why is the height of a frame fixed? Why didn't they just make the camera and projector advance the film a shorter step for each frame, then you could pack 16:9 or even 2:1 at full density. Was there a mechanical reason that prevented it? It would require a different projector, maybe? Or because you'd have less film and hence less resolution per frame?
With my sony a7r3 you can choose to go apsc mode or full. You can also attach apsc lenses and full lenses making it a pretty versatile camera for video and photography.
All Cars United yes this is good. Then have that full frame to medium format adaptor to have the holy trinity within grasps.
it goes aps-c for photos, and for video mode it goes to super 35mm, isn't it? At least in a7r2 its like that. It switches to aps-c/super 35mm.
@@wasislos can use either with video on the a7r2
@@wasislos video is full frame or super35 on the a7iii, your choice, or automatic with E lenses
Right and Wrong in several places.
1. Finally someone puts my lectures together and actually gets viewers! Well done!
2. Super 35 is IMHO the ideal general purpose video sensor size and absolutely ideal for Documentaries. For all the reasons you mentioned. FF is lovely if you have time, are shooting a feature film, w/ a tight storyboard and AC on crew.
Interestingly, I discovered that M43 and even smaller sensors (1-2/3") rock my UCU and macro world in both movie and stills! You guessed it, innately greater DOF essential for keeping smaller/closer subjects in focus without exaggerated stopping down . That explains why smartphones are rocking our world.
The sweetness comes in when you own a larger sensor camera such as the Panasonic S1H, cause you get selective sensor cropping !
yes do a m50 vs 1dx and get a abacus!
abacus man, I was looking for you
Yasss!!!
Do the comparison 😐 Do it now
I think it would be better compare it to the 5dsr to show how that pixels quantity over quality goes down on 4k
yes M50 vrs 1dx raw formats compare apples with apples and equal lenses curious to see how little or large the gap is?
*_I'm from the future..._*
_You switch._
Haha I've seen you at Waltzin's channel on his GLI build before 😂 . Wassup! 🤘
Me too LOL
Why would he get the Nintendo Switch to shoot his videos?
hahahaha
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I always feel knowing your camera and the gear you use. Knowing where it excels and it's shortfalls is always a bigger difference then the specs it has.
I already knew everything you talked about it, but still watched it all the way through because I love the way you explain things!
I love that the videos in the film strip are all a frame out of sync from each other just like single frames would be on film! Nice touch
I laughed so hard at the "someone get me an abacus quick" that I woke my 4 month old daughter, totally worth. One of my favorite youtubers, you teach and entertain. You give a lot of value to your viewers for their time.
Love for you to shoot The Ultimate Hockey Fan Cave one day. Keep the videos coming!
I've watched a few of your vids but *this vid* was the one that finally made me sub because it was replete with qualities that are rare online: it was calm, cogent, educational, FUNNY and, most importantly, non-partisan. I think you're up there with the best of the best when it comes to camera reviews / info. I appreciate that you put a metric shit ton of work into what you do ~ it pays off, dude. It really does. MTFBWY and LLAP. 🖖🏽
Wow Guys this is so exciting. I'm a new photographer and your videos have been teaching me so much, I know your book will help me learn so much more. love you guys and can't wait to see where you guys go from here
Seriously the funniest and most engaging personality in this genre of education, review, and general imaging obsession that we all love.
that'd be me haha
I went from Full Frame to Micro 4/3 & Speedbooster.
wooo man being able to keep things in focus while still getting some light is great.
Full frame is so tough to focus for video. I do have full frame for photography still though. Can't beat that.
I have to comment even though many have previously said, that this was maybe the best review on full frame on youtube. GJ!
Please do a comparison between m50 and 6d mark ii and let us know if you'll still shoot with a crop sensor. Love your vids dude, subscribed!
You can use APS-C lenses on a lot, if not most, FF cameras. The Z6 and the A7iii both are capable of working with FF and APS-C. The Z series can work with nearly the entire nikon F line.
And here we are 4 months later with the release of the EOS R 😭😭😭
Awesome videos man!
Yaaaaas! This is the best description of crop factor I've seen on RUclips. 👍🙌
Things i'd love to hear about
- Scripting
- Ingest and meta tagging workflow
This was great Potato! A nice clear explanation for all those wondering about this stuff. I'm partial to sticking to my APS-C camera right now myself, although I'm not investing in APS-C lenses for sake of any future move to full frame. I do like photography as well, so it would be cool down the road. I do dig that my camera is so small, even if somewhat dwarfed by my lenses.
Nice video, but just a note that sensor size has nothing to do with shallow depth of field.
What you have to do is to compensate the field of view with a longer focal length (which will actually produce a shallower depth of field), or to get closer (which will also produce a shallower depth of field, but may also cause some perspective distortion)
I say this because I'm going the other way around (from photography to video) and I record videos with both my cropped sensor dslr (Nikon D7000) and my full frame (D750).
Thanks for the vid!
Cheers
This is the best image sensor tutorial on RUclips. Well done, bro. Well done.
Already knew this, but the video was so entertaining that i stayed throughout the whole thing!! Great Work!
A few Netflix shows have used full frame sensors and I’ve gotta say you can tell the difference between the full frame and super-35. The super 35 images look compressed (not a bad thing) and the full frame images have a 3D pop effect. I use both and enjoy both, though I do prefer the full frame aesthetics.
get a speedbooster, and use your new (or cheap old) FF lenses on your APS-C camera body.. I highly recommend it so you can have most of FF sensor quality image and FOV on APS-C digital camera. it's like having 35mm camera FOV and of course you got 1 Fstop more light.. which also kicks ass!
So which is better for professional video shoot like music videos short movies or documentaries ?
Thank you for the explanation. I learnt something new. I use a Sony A5100 with an APS-C sensor. I bought it not knowing what It meant. Later thought of buying a new camera with a full frame sensor. Now I know the difference for real. Thank you so much
Nothing like developing and printing black and white. So amazing.
Dude you're awesome! I already know most of the stuff you talk about because I'm a cinematographer based in New Delhi trying to make it big (LOL) but it's good to have someone talk about concepts, that too in a fun way like you do. Sort of reinforces what I know. Love the videos you post. :)
They're called perforations or perfs. 35mm still film is 8 perf horizontal, whereas 35mm motion picture film is 4 perfs vertical. In order to create widescreen, you can either cut off the top and bottom, use anamorphic lenses, or shoot super 35mm, which only uses 3 perfs on one side.
just shot a outdoors day event (lowrider picnic) using A BLACK PRO MIST FILTER stacked with a ND filter. These really improve the visuals big time. I shoot with a D3200 Nikon Crop Senor DSLR and 35mm kit lens. And Mavic mini drone. You guys can stop by ... I just learned about crop and full frame last Sunday. Thanks man!
A cropped lens actually has a lower depth of field at the same focal length. It's just that moving back or going to a shorter focal length also raises the depth of field. Then you have to lower the aperture to compensate. 200mm/f2 on a full frame has the same effect has 100mm/f1 on a micro four thirds. The diameter of the lens opening actually ends up being the same.
Honestly the thing I like the most is the production quality of these vids
This is the best explanation of crop sensor / crop factor difference I've seen...
Good job man...
I finally get it now...
Stoked to finally find someone who isn't moving on to full frame. My search has ended.
By far this is the most informative video covering this topic! Thank you. Looking forward to real world comparison: super35 to FF video shoot.
bro i wish you were my school teacher back in the day. you're both engaging and educational. thanks heaps g.
At least i understood the difference between full frame and super 35mm. Thank you, sir. Good luck and have a nice day!
Potato Jet, thank you for taking a confusing topic and explaining it so simply that a young child could understand it.
Yes, I would like to see a side by side comparison between full frame and smaller sensor sizes.
Yes do the comparison!
Jet, that's it. I'm a fan of your channel. Please do a video on some recomended lenses to buy for canon EF-S /M for shooting with the M50 in every situation. Budget wise will be nice if someone is thinking on starting with the M50 and thene plans to upgrade to something like the 90D to have more flexibility
Yes to the comparison vid!
Dude I love how when you put the clips in the video film strip, that each video was one frame before and after the original.
Been shooting APS-C bodies professionally for many years. Clients are always happy. No plans to go FF anytime soon. Image IQ is great everywhere these days, regardless of sensor size. And in my work I don't care about low-light performance and shooting wide open.
Yes please do a comparison between full frame and aps-c sensor sizes!
That was easily the best explanation of cropped sensor I've seen. Fantastically well done! As for the Canon 1DX II versus M50 for video. No contest. I tried the M50 for a day and hated it, couldn't ship it back fast enough. I do come from a wildlife photography background, transitioning to video, but I'm used to all the great video features of the 1DX II and the extremely precise focus. Found you through Matti. Looking forward to following you feed.
I use a 18-135 lens I bought with my Nikon d80 in 2008 with my D750. I don’t know about Canon, but Nikon has a quick change crop button that can go between the three different sensors sizes.
I love how you offset the video frame rate on the left and right side of the film strip to simulate the difference in the main frame!
Great video AGAIN! I like the effect when the pictures inside the 35mm foto strip deffer in time. Such a nice detail!
During that film strip demo this madman had the left frame one frame or two back and the following frame ahead. Nice touch. Subtle.
Great video, always said it that a full frame look for video is not actually important for video but more important for photography
Great video, with excellent explanations of the two formats. Basically, what is now described as APS-C crop is equivalent to 35mm movie film, and what us known as full frame is more like the old VistaVision. I tend to be rather amused by what I term as 'full frame snobs' who choose to forget that, in DSLR terms, APS-C was THE original digital format for quite some time, so full frame is actually more like the 70mm overblown cousin to cinema's 35mm🤔😏😀
Yes! make a side by side between a full sensor and crop sensor thingy...thatd be cool to see!
The difference in quality may vary depending on the projection platform. So say you project a crop sensor image to a jumbo theater screen, you may see a difference vs a full frame sensor image on a theatrical scale.
such an old video this literally made me understand 35mm etc sooo much better thank you!
5:00 actaully the lens sizes would be the same for ff and smaller sensors if you wanted the same image. You are using a 10-18mm f3.5-5.6 lens on crop, the ff equivalent would be a 16-29mm f5.6-9 lens. both would be same size and weight.
Awesome filmstrip graphic segments, Gene!! APS-C is NOT dead!!
We need an update on this topic considering how AF is great now on all mirrorless cameras and the lens selections are really good!
Love how you explain everything, very clear and direct!
Love the way you educate in an entertaining way my man
Thanks man. It is great to hear from someone that has experience with all kinds of cameras and lenses who still uses the M50 daily. Even though I think you've now bailed on it for the R and the BM Pocket right? Still over here shooting on the M50. What lens do you suggest for low light vlogging? Or should we just slap the 10 on and a light? Bought ours with the 18-55 but want a bit more. If you're bored someday come check out our channel and see what we do with the M50 and LumaFusion. Thanks Spud!
Potato Jet: funny, savvy, always hands-on, invigorating. I really like this channel :-)
THIS IS SO INFORMATIVE IT BLOWS MY MIND.
Apart from the main Video we get some Life Hacks in Every Potato Jet Video I love It.
Awesome Animation with the Film Thing 👍🏻
Great video, can’t wait to see the comparisons!
3 factors affect depth of field: 1. Aperture, 2. Subject to Camera Distance and 3. Focal Length.
The sensor size by itself is not what affects the depth of field. Is the focal distance that needs to decrease to have an equivalent field of view on a full frame sensor as opposed to a smaller one.
For example: A 24mm lens on a full frame camera gives you a field of view of 24mm. If you take that same 24mm lens and mount it on an APS-C sensor (1.5x for this example) the field of view will be equivalent to a 36mm lens but the focal distance remains the same at 24mm, is the field of view that changed to an ‘equivalent’ of 36mm (as if you would be looking through a 36mm).
If you would actually use a 24mm equivalent on a APS-C sensor, 17mm would be the closest, to have the same field of view as a 24mm on a full frame sensor then only then only then the depth of field would be wider but this wouldn’t be due to the sensor size but because of the shorter focal length of 17mm.
Oh, you definitely shoot full-frame now!
Nice touch making the frames one behind each other
Holey part is the sprocket holes. They can put audio data outside AND between the sprocket holes to maximise image size up to the holes, hence "super" 35. Non-super 35 left gap between image and holes for old style analog audio tracks and hence image was quite a bit smaller still.
There's also hard/soft matte and anamorphic but that's a whole other thing.
That was an awesome video and I thank you so much for breaking down the "crop factor" in detail and sharing your knowledge. Thank you for helping creators.
3:20 -- FINALLY SOMEONE EXPLAINS IT!
Back in the day I shot on 16mm film which had the optical sound printed down the side which restricted the frame size.
They bought out Super 16mm which left out the optical sound (separate sound recording) which allowed a wider frame size.
Solid breakdown! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
VERY NICE VID! Considering getting a 6D Mark II as a first Canon camera, EOS R just came out and the internet has confused me on which to get. Overall I think we've become obsessed with camera stats instead of trying to learn how to shoot quality content. Going with the 6D Mark II soon!
oh yes, that is exactly what I want to see. Also see a comparison with speedbooster on the M50 would be very interesting.
I have a question . Most people that are beginning with “movie making” often look around for the best body and buy a crapy lens. Tell me is it better to buy like a 70d and a 18-55mm lens, or get rid of the great af and touch screen, and for the same price get a 60d but with a 24mm f2.8 mm lens. Potato Jet whats better?
I would sign up on a course that: General practical guidelines on starting out as a filmmaker, including rules of thumb about lenses and camera setup. I know it may sound impossible to do a general course on such a massive content. BUT here is the thing, I think you can do it and perhaps one of very few that can. Look forward to see what you will come up with. I know it is a video from 2018 but still I think you would manage to make a classic course. No pressure.
Hi :-) First of, love your vid, nicely done :-) Little thing I wanted to point out around 5"18.... where you say you can't use a FF lense on a APS-C cam... I'm sure you know, but beginners don't: some FF (=full frame) lenses work well on APS-C cam... and here come the interesting part: you'll augment the "zoom" factor of the ff lens on the aps-c cam... Mount a FF lense 100mm on an aps-c, and you'll get a (my crop factor is 1,6) 100x1,6=160mm lens ... (and please, correct me if I'm wrong!!!) :-) Thanks again for sharing this!!!!!!
I love that you made some timedifference on your 3 videos, on the filmstrip!
I finally understand the difference! Thanks man 💜regards from Chile!
You got plenty of swag! But please don’t say Gucci!
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gucci
I like how APS C already crops the image so you can get "extra reach" out of telephoto lenses. Perfect for wildlife.
Yeah, and it’s somewhat exponentially to because the crop effect gets bigger and bigger with telephoto lenses. For example: 15mm=24mm but 100mm=160mm.
Hey Mr Potatoe, can I know which lense you are using on your current shooting on canon 80d right now? I try to find a lense that can capture enough background in crop sensor camera. Cheers & thanks!
Great explanation of the different sensor sizes. I had no idea what the difference was between full frame 35mm and super 35mm. Makes perfect sense now. Also, I didn't know that a lot of video cameras had the smaller super 35mm sensors. I just assumed the high end cinema cameras had huge sensors. Thanks, now I don't feel so bad shooting video on my ASP-C sensor :D.
3:41 only for Canon's APS-C, all other brands have a 1.5 crop factor. Normal APS-C is 18x24mm (if someone knows why Canon decided to go for 1.6 and a smaller sensor, I'm open especially since like Pentax, Sony, Nikon, Fuji... they use the same range of lenses... so a 18-55 on a Canon is a 29-88 when it's a 27-83mm for other brands)
I have an idea for an autofocus system,
a barcode like scanning laser up where the logo normally goes on a sony/canon/nikon full frame mirrorless or DSLR, the height of the laser sweep adjusts to match your focus point, and that little scanning octogon mirror can pan an infrared laser over that point hundreds of times per second(8 times per revolution) giving the camera an exact distance to focus on how far it has to go to get there(so it doesnt overshoot by much), and more importantly, which direction the subject has moved during filming(reducing focus hunting), sure you'd still need contrast focus to get it more accurate because lenses do change, 15m focus might be 16m on a hot day but still, knowing where the focus needs to be, instantly, and knowing of any changes instantly(and in which direction the lens needs to focus) will make focus happen much faster and more reliably, instead of the 50/50 focus hunting method that often includes a distracting overshoot(possibly two),. with real time data, i would say that this system might be able to replace phase detect autofocus, though to be able to work in direct sunlight i expect the laser to be too powerful to be safe. If the camera's sensor was used to identify the laser sweep, it could easily see that the data it is getting is for the focus point, just use an an IR cut electronic filter to make the IR laser not visible(an allow for IR photography from the factory), though using the main sensor might not be precise enough and a seperate IR sensor might be needed for exact timing. the time it takes the full sensor to refresh might only allow for measurement in several meters or even thousands of meteres, instead of inches/centimeters/decimeters for something dedicated to laser distance measuring
Sensor size doesn't affect depth of field, its the longer focal length when compared to smaller sensors. When the field of view is the same, so is the depth of field.
Yes! I want to see that.
Shooting with a camera like the 80D, what are you doing about color? You don't have a flat profile like Canon Log, right? Do you color grade your videos? Thanks!
New video! We Gucci! Love your videos man- great detail and explanation.
If you're into APSC, what do you think about the Fujifilm X-T3 ?
It's recently out, and it's been touted as the king of APSC for both photos and videos.
Id definitely love to see the comparison