@daril darel bro it's not like I've experienced with all sorts of PCs and monitors at different prices. You should do more research and learn your facts before believing something stupid like that
@daril darel I dont live with my parents thank you and their point was to see if its obvious it's not wasting money cause 60hz gets overclocked to 75 anyways and 144hz is a major difference from 60
@@BrandonSale Yes, you can overclock your monitor's refresh rate, but when a monitor says its a 60hz panel, dont expect it to display 120hz. My 60hz monitor can't even go to 65hz
@@BrandonSale I use a tool called Custom Resolution Utility to create a 75 hz resolution on my display. I once had a 60 hz display that I could push to 80 hz at 1080p and 84 at 900p. The difference is huge to me.
@@mackenziebullied4900 lmao I guess when I read it the didn’t see the last part and just saw he got an upgrade and now 50 FPS and thought that was all he got
@@childishbambino2024 well either way fps is just one of the MANY advantages to pc so even if he was getting 30 its not like theres no point u feel me lol
Before upgrading to a 165Hz monitor, I was using what I thought to be a 60Hz monitor for a very long time, finding out that it could go to 75Hz and feeling the difference the extra 15Hz made is what convinced me to go high refresh rate. It's a 25% improvement, very easily noticeable.
60 to 75 is probably more meaningful than 75 to 165 right? I guess there is a point of diminshing returns after 75. I don't think humans can see beyond 100Hz anyway
@@dammitcarl1082 It definitely is very sensical :D They made a test with professional gamers. The simple fact of not capping the fps on a 60Hz monitor made them meet at least 80% of their 144hz/fps performance, where they were under 20% of their peek performance with 60hz/fps The "feels slow" of yours is just your machine being stupid and not registering the shots correctly even though they met the target. It has nothing to do with your eyes. So there is a point around 100Hz where the eye doesn't play a role anymore. Hint: the average reaction time of a professional gamer is about 200ms! That's at least 12 frames!! lol
@@Henry-xb4mf Can't be. Most monitors have a native response time of 8 to 12ms anyway, so they can't display more than 80 to 120 real fps, making the gains after 100Hz almost non-existent, unless you got some super expensive high-end monitor with 5ms response time, in which case, you MAY see some minor difference between 144 and 100. Anything else is placebo.
besides monitor refresh rate, have you considered a video on mouse DPI or polling rate as well? I'd be curious if a small increase in either can be felt by an inexperienced gamer.
i usually do some pretty heavy gaming for a few hours every other day-ish, have been for some years. that being said, i can tell if my dpi has been changed even by 100. it’s hard to explain, but its muscle memory and im used to moving my hand a certain length.
It should be done by changing both dpi and game sensitivity so that your edpi is same. Example 200 dpi 6 sens and 800 dpi 1,5 sens. 800 dpi should feel smoother.
@@sirhatrick_8980 here is a 27" 1440p 1ms 144hz monitor for 249$: www.amazon.com/AOC-CQ27G1-DisplayPort-adjustable-Zero-Bright/dp/B07V39QHMY you could also choose the 1080p 144hz 1ms 24" version for 145$
@@sirhatrick_8980 Human eye can't actually notice the difference between 0,001s and 0,004s so it's a lot better decision to buy a 144hz VA panel monitor. TN is old and bad.
I got my LG ultrawide monitor used on eBay about a year ago. I ordered it for its aspect ratio, though when I got it I was surprised to know that not only did it have Freesync, but it also was able to display in 75Hz. While it's not a huge upgrade over 60, it's still nice to have and it gives it that extra "natural" feeling.
5700 should easily pull 144hz @ 1080p in alot of games. With the price of 144hz now dipping under $150 I dont see any reason not to spend the extra 30-50 dollar premium over a 75hz monitor.
So I just found out that my monitor is capable of being overclocked from 60Hz to 75Hz, and boy let me tell you.. I've never, and I mean never seen above 60fps before, and I've played games enough now that my eyes are VERY sensitive to refresh rate, but 75fps was.. an experience. It confused me at much smoother it looked and how much quicker I got information. Actually, 100% improved my performance in games as well.. like a lot so far. I'd wager that 120Hz+ feels absolutely amazing to a point where there might be no going back. It's already a bit hard for me to return to 60.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : I love your videos mate, because you are so steady and nonhasty learning dude....if you stay uncorrupted on youtube, there is gonna be a bright future for you here ;). Keep up the good work mate and I can't wait for the next refresh rate video :).
When I got my 75Hz monitor I noticed immediately and am irritated playing 60Hz now.. it's remarkable and much more than I expected when I originally bought it looking at the specs.
i just found out that my 60Hz monitor can run 75Hz.. and i immediately saw the difference.. i was so shocked that it was smooth af.. cant wait to get a 144Hz monitor
let me tell you: Ive used 60hz for all my life until I found out that there is something called "overclocking". As soon as I found out I calculated my Monitors max Refreshrate and it turns out to be 82. something. I set it to 80 and tested it. Turns out my hdmi cable only supports 75hz at 1080p. I locked it at 75 and holy shit it makes such a big difference. Hitting moving targets its so much easier and hitting flickshots is just a day and night difference, at least in csgo. Wont stop me from getting a 240hz Monitor tho hehehehe.
@@LS5D hey, good thing you replied. I've turned to 75hz too since then (turned out my monitor supported it at lowered 4:3 resolution) but I can't say I notice *that* much of a difference. Maybe I was used to 60hz so much that it would need a change to 120hz at least for me to really notice. Like, it is smoother. But not in a way that I can actively tell I'm better now or that I'm worse with 60hz
Do the 75Hz monitors have lightboost/backlight-strobing/low-persistence? That could make a bigger difference than the framerate increase itself. 60Hz will flicker noticeably with low-persistence, so it's generally not done, but 75Hz is where the flicker starts to become imperceptible to most humans.
Anna was so accurate about how the companies monopolizes the market by giving something with so minimal difference and charging more from the customers. Sure the difference is subtle but it isn't the 40-50$ worth extra over a standard 60hz.
I have a 60 and a 75 sitting beside each other. The difference is very much there. The jump from 60 to 75 is more visible than the jump from 144 to 240. 240 is an overkill for our slow human brains. If your budget allows - go for 144. If not - 75 is still a significant upgrade.
The reason it's easier for you to differentiate the refresh rate this time was because of the lack of motion blur that gives the illusion of smoothness. You should redo the 60hz vs 144hz test again without motion blur and see how quickly you're able to tell the difference.
I recently bought a 75 Hz monitor and the difference was clear as night and day. I can't even imagine how 144 hz even feels like. I think 75 Hz monitors are best for budget gaming where you have a mainstream gpu and not a high end one which can atleast push like 80 fps on latest titles, with vsync enabled the latency is much better which would be 13.3 ms.
No over clocking 60hz to 75hz brings some jitteriness because it brings more input lag.. A true 75hz monitor have much lower input lag and frame stuttering, not to mention, you can even overclock a true 75hz to near 90hz
I got a 75hz monitor, a few months back. I didn’t really notice a difference but then when I went back to 60Hz when I was playing on my friend’s setup, the difference was night and day
I had a 75hz 1280*1024 monitor since 2012 till 2017, i sold it when i assembled my gaming pc, i miss it now. Btw Dawid do you know a 1440p/4k monitor with deep deep blacks? I would buy it for modded Skyrim, i need my dark nights.
That's cool. Interesting resolution, is that a 19x10 monitor? As far as deep blacks go, anything with a VA monitor would be a good choice. Samsung has a high refresh rate 1440P monitor with a VA panel and quantum dot for better colour accuracy. Let me go find it's name then I will update this comment. That should have decent dark blacks.
@@DawidDoesTechStuffI think it was 5/4, now i have a xb271hu acer predator 1440p ips 165hz, great monitor, but the blacks are 6/10. I was thinking, this guy has 40k subs and still replies comments.
Its good that theres is a noticeable difference between the two. I'm going to take credit for this video idea :) i tried to overclock my monitor like people were saying in the last video but i could only get it to 65, it didnt seems worth it.
You can very much take credit for this video idea. :D Thank you. Yeah, that is always kind of the problem with overclocking, the results can vary. I do t know if that extra 5Hz will be noticeable. Maybe I should try a video to see what the smallest noticeable difference is.
You can try different timings, just google. My 24" Dell was able to reach 69 until I tried some manual timings and now got 76Hz which is really visible difference.
F in the chat for a gamer like.me.stuck on a dual 1080p 60hz monitors with rtx 3070 but it does mean my usage is so low that my pc temperatures are insaneee. Like it never gets hot
@@DawidDoesTechStuff my laptop's got a 144hz display, I didn't even notice it until I read it on the box, now I can't use my old 75hz laptop without noticing, makes me aware to look for it!
I've just switched from 75hz to 144hz and the difference between the 75hz on this new monitor and 75hz on the old one is like night and day... 75hz on the new monitor feels much chopper than what it feels like on an actual 75hz monitor... Same went for when I was comparing 60hz on the old 75hz monitor to my even older 60hz base monitor... I honestly don't think these tests on non native refresh rates are any accurate.
Dude I was just testing this last night. I went this month to 144hz after years on 60-75. After a couple weeks I tried 60-75 again and I don't remember them being this awful, like the high refresh monitor is really bad going that low compared to a native 60-75hz panel.
On a CRT the difference between 60 and 75 is huge, can'´t say I would spot it easily on an LCD. Not used LCD at 60 much though. Then again the reason I used CRT for so long before I swwwitched was because I really hate the graphics not keeping up.
I have a Dell office monitor that was originally at 1080p 60Hz but I recently found out that it supported 75Hz without OCing so I went for it and I love it.
Yeah I went straight from 60 to 144, but honestly recently I've encountered some games that I can't push over 100, and so I've been settling for capping the frame rate to get smoother frametimes and I was initally just capping things at 60fps but it felt baaad, and I couldn't believe how much smoother weird numbers like 75 or even 85 feel. Honestly though I feel like once the framerate gets above 120fps, diminishing returns really kick in. Like I can tell the difference, but in gameplay as long as the fps doesn't dip below 120 or heck really 100fps (especially with g-sync) I think it feels smooth.
Cycie i use a hdmi adapter on a vga cable and on the nvidia panel i just put 75hz on full res and on lower res (800x600) i got to 80 but i use 1920x1080 75hz
Just yesterday I went with a 24” 1080 Acer KG241Q 75hz, but I moved up from a ten+ year old Samsung monitor that was 1680x1050 59 hz (16:10 aspect ratio), and for me it was a night and day difference. I think anyone that is on a budget upgrading from an older monitor, there are some really good priced TN panels with good picture quality. But if someone currently has a 1080p IPS at 60hz, it might not be a huge jump. Personally I did feel a significant increase in smoothness in just that 16 FPS increase in games like Metro Last Light, FarCry 5, and Doom Eternal, but that was likely because I haven’t already had an opportunity to use and get used to a 144hz monitor. I think I would feel differently about it if I have used 144hz monitors before. Also, not everyone would have a GPU capable of making the jump to 144 hz to meet that refresh rate, and for those looking for an increase, 75 is a nice middle ground. If money wasn’t an option though, I’d go 144hz
In my experience... The 60hz and 75hz versions of the same monitors are pretty much evenly priced. I picked up a 75hz dell monitor on sale recently that was actually a bit cheaper than the 60hz version of the same monitor. I would definitely say that the difference is very subtle but if they're the same price you might as well pick up the 75hz monitor.
@@ben_.q don't hold your breath on that one hey... Some might overclock but I'm not sure you'd get to 90hz on most of them. More over you'd probably break your monitor if you tried to get that far.
I've been using 75hz for 13 years straight. When I work with 60hz even the mouse movement confuses me and irritates cause it's weird. It really feels like it's being...torn.
75 hz feels really good on CRTs and 70 is enough to not see obnoxious flicker on bright objects. I tend to play at 85 on my CRT which is comparable to my 144 Hz LCD.
It’s really odd how much smoother a small jump in Hz actually makes a difference. I’ve tested it myself, and 75 is definitely noticeable compared to 60. Just feels more smooth, and less camera lag when moving around.
I have always loved higher refresh rates all the way back with the expensive $600 Sony 21" CRT Trinitron that could hit 100hz. Funny once I went LCD I haven't gone up to the higher refresh rate monitors which I know I would love. I bought a 2560x1080 @ 75hz a few years back and it was quite noticeable to go from 60 to 75hz. I look forward to a 3880x1440 @ 100hz+ at some point. Not going too high in resolution and refresh rate really keeps the upgrades from being needed so soon. I know I won't be able to go back once I buy a really nice monitor, I know the $500 GPU will be next. 75hz is good for now.
The Acer SB220Q is a 22" IPS 75hz monitor with Freesync for $89 on Amazon... it's high quality and packed with features for cheap price and a 75hz monitor... that's a go to product in that price range.
@@HandleIsNewAndBad It has a Zero-frame design | ultra-thin | 4ms response time | IPS panel... look it up on Amazon... a lot of tech channels (like Linus) recommend it too.
I use 144Hz but I feel like anything above 80fps is pretty smooth, below that it starts getting worse and worse. Obviously 144fps is better thab 80fps but the difference is smaller.
nah 60 is still enough for games like gta, tomb raider etc. If you play competitive games(csgo, overwatch, fortnite, pubg etc.) then something like 120 or 144 is a must.
I remember it was easy to tell this on crt but I doubt I could readily observe this on an lcd or oled. I’m not surprised it was fairly easy for her with the glasses as that’s part of what made that easier on crts
Maybe buying a 75hz monitor isn't worth it but overclocking your 60hz one is sometimes a great idea. And I have to say, having played on 75hz for 4 years now, when you go back to 60 unintentionally, you will feel a massive difference, especially in really competitive shooters like CSGO. Maybe you guys were to spoiled from the 140hz you tested before (I myself never experienced 140hz).
The DP port on my Sceptre 24 inch monitor seems to have stopped work. The monitor will do 75Hz with DP, but only 60Hz with HDMI. I have it connect with HDMI and I don't notice any difference. Now I'm not a game player. Just do regular computer stuff. Most of the videos I watch are on either X or RUclips.
I went from 60 to 75 when 144 was overprised and the 25% difference was amazing. It also depends on the game. Tombraider difference is less then rage 2 doom and wolfenstein (yep vulkan)
If you dont buy new graphic card and CPU 75 refresh rate will be enough for a long while considering that newer games are good on 60-70 fps on high settings or even ultra..
not really. i got a 75hz monitor. and the difference is minimal. especially because i'm stuck with 60fps when playing fallout 4. because fallout 4 is a 60fps game. if i unlock the fps. the lock picking will be screwed. i have 75hz monitor, because for some reason. they only sell new 75hz monitor on my country. i got it for cheap. and i pick the ips version. and made by acer. while samsung is same price, but using TN panel or their very own panel.
@@luay2805 - indonesia. acer and LG in here. are selling 22 inch 75hz ips monitor for cheap price. while samsung tried to rip everyone off with their monitor...
That's interesting. I do think it does vary between individuals. Loner, I'm sorry to hear that Samsung monitors are expensive, but Acer does make some pretty good monitors at least. :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff - yup. the monitor are great. but the speakers on the monitor sucks badly. they are barely audible. even on full volume. its trully not a bad deal for the acer monitor. i was stuck between LG and Acer. so i pick acer. cant remember why i pick acer. and well... it was samsung lost. not my lost. i think barely anyone gonna pick samsung. unless they didnt check the specs. and only look at the brand name.
I was surprised by how noticable the difference is, especially in VR. 60hz VR can feel really odd with less responsiveness, more visible frame flashing, and less overall visual clarity during motion. But as soon as I switch back to 75hz through my oculus settings, those issues just vanish.
You can overclock most 60hz monitors to 75hz (or even more.) I'm not sure it's worth doing though, really. Maybe in games like Battlefield, it could be?
I am looking to upgrade my monitor and the only reasonable one I can afford at 2k (upgrading from 1080p 60hz) is 75 hertz. I am glad there is a difference as I would like to play higher frames.
I wonder how does the ambient light affect the experience. For example lights in the room might flicker at either 50hz/60Hz or at some other random frequency. I remember this used to be a big deal with CRT monitors and incandescent lights.
It's a big difference especially when u a true gamer. I got use to 75 and never went back. It wont be as noticable to people who don't grind or the people who says there is no difference between 144 and 240
but that the thing with refresh rates, you don't actually notice a very large difference untill you get used to it and then have to go back to a lower one. the difference will be night and day
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HELL NO
too obvious
No dude 75 and 76
No 360hz vs 359hz
60 hz vs 60.000000000001 hz idk it's probably too obvious
Just found out my monitor can go to 75hz been playing on 60hz for 3 years -_-
Oof
lol
Big *F*
same lol
I thinking about staying at 60 instead of oc to 75hz. I Dont want to ruin 60fps for myself and also dont want to lower settings
I have a 60 hz monitor and overclocked to 81, makes no difference because I get 24 fps anyways, that nice *C I N E M A T I C* experience
Nothing beats that CINEMATIC experience. 😅
Actually each frame gets shown twice so 48hz and 24fps.
@daril darel bro it's not like I've experienced with all sorts of PCs and monitors at different prices. You should do more research and learn your facts before believing something stupid like that
@daril darel I dont live with my parents thank you and their point was to see if its obvious it's not wasting money cause 60hz gets overclocked to 75 anyways and 144hz is a major difference from 60
Bruh u can get over over 75 fps on a 75hz monitor
I have a 75 hz monitor, and the difference between 60 and 75 feels like 60 to 40
Same, for me it was a huge difference when I overclocked my 60Hz monitor to 75hz
@@nootics you can overclock your refresh rate?
@@BrandonSale Yes, you can overclock your monitor's refresh rate, but when a monitor says its a 60hz panel, dont expect it to display 120hz. My 60hz monitor can't even go to 65hz
@@BrandonSale I use a tool called Custom Resolution Utility to create a 75 hz resolution on my display. I once had a 60 hz display that I could push to 80 hz at 1080p and 84 at 900p. The difference is huge to me.
@@johnnyelfilo I got my 60Hz to 81Hz
We need Anna (aka the Noob) in more videos
I will try and have a her in more. :D
Anna is a great addition. Offers nice balance.
Anna: *Hi* 💁♀️
True story
@@dgorry Noice 👌😉
Subtle but it's there. Anna is adorable
Very subtle. She really is. :D
Is she a transgender?
@@flinskikun Obviously not. Just because a female has a strong jawline and wide face does not mean they are trans.
@@flinskikun gtF0
@@flinskikun lmao
Using a mouse cursor to tell the difference between 60Hz and 75Hz is cheating imo.
Hahaha! It shows how hard it is to tell.
144 likes.....hmm
bruh how are you supposed to tell the difference on a still image
@@kata5398 I think he means on a video or in a game
Lol
I have a 75hz monitor and the diference it's like 15hz. Interesting hum
Hmmm let me check on my online calc....
Yeap,math checks out.
Confirmed.
Lol... Literally :D
Ricael do Carmo you got ripped off
lmao
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I used to be playing in 30fps for my entire life, got my pc an upgrade with a 75hz monitor and now 50fps is feeling like 20fps
Bruh why not just get a console at that point
crt monitors were superior to response time,thats why u feel this way..
@@childishbambino2024 what are you talking about he said he upgraded
@@mackenziebullied4900 lmao I guess when I read it the didn’t see the last part and just saw he got an upgrade and now 50 FPS and thought that was all he got
@@childishbambino2024 well either way fps is just one of the MANY advantages to pc so even if he was getting 30 its not like theres no point u feel me lol
I've been looking for videos comparing 60Hz and 75Hz, this has been so damn helpful!
I am glad I could help. :D
Before upgrading to a 165Hz monitor, I was using what I thought to be a 60Hz monitor for a very long time, finding out that it could go to 75Hz and feeling the difference the extra 15Hz made is what convinced me to go high refresh rate. It's a 25% improvement, very easily noticeable.
60 to 75 is probably more meaningful than 75 to 165 right? I guess there is a point of diminshing returns after 75. I don't think humans can see beyond 100Hz anyway
@@sassuki 75 to 165 is absolutely massive. Even 100 feels slow compared to 165. That ‘humans can’t see above x’ is nonsense.
@@dammitcarl1082 It definitely is very sensical :D
They made a test with professional gamers. The simple fact of not capping the fps on a 60Hz monitor made them meet at least 80% of their 144hz/fps performance, where they were under 20% of their peek performance with 60hz/fps
The "feels slow" of yours is just your machine being stupid and not registering the shots correctly even though they met the target. It has nothing to do with your eyes.
So there is a point around 100Hz where the eye doesn't play a role anymore.
Hint: the average reaction time of a professional gamer is about 200ms! That's at least 12 frames!! lol
@@sassuki 50, 60, 75, 100 and 144. Each gap is massive.
@@Henry-xb4mf Can't be. Most monitors have a native response time of 8 to 12ms anyway, so they can't display more than 80 to 120 real fps, making the gains after 100Hz almost non-existent, unless you got some super expensive high-end monitor with 5ms response time, in which case, you MAY see some minor difference between 144 and 100.
Anything else is placebo.
thank you for doing this video,there is nearly no info about this youtube
I'm always happy to help out. :D Thanks for the comment.
tomy ruiz Fr I just ordered a 75hz an previously had a 60 I hope I can tell the difference
@@sugestive371 can you tell now ?
@@sugestive371 can you tell how?
besides monitor refresh rate, have you considered a video on mouse DPI or polling rate as well? I'd be curious if a small increase in either can be felt by an inexperienced gamer.
That is a very interesting idea. I will look into that. Thanks for the suggestion. :D
I have played CS for 5 years and I can't tell the difference unless 125Hz polling rate starts lagging
i usually do some pretty heavy gaming for a few hours every other day-ish, have been for some years. that being said, i can tell if my dpi has been changed even by 100. it’s hard to explain, but its muscle memory and im used to moving my hand a certain length.
@@wrije DPI is definitely noticable but polling rate is nothing tangable in my opinion
It should be done by changing both dpi and game sensitivity so that your edpi is same. Example 200 dpi 6 sens and 800 dpi 1,5 sens. 800 dpi should feel smoother.
Maybe if there was cheap 90-100 hz monitors.
there are sub 200$ 144hz monitors. you dont have to buy the most expensive thing you know...
oh yeah yeah but are they 1ms response time tho?
@@sirhatrick_8980 ....yes
@@sirhatrick_8980 here is a 27" 1440p 1ms 144hz monitor for 249$: www.amazon.com/AOC-CQ27G1-DisplayPort-adjustable-Zero-Bright/dp/B07V39QHMY
you could also choose the 1080p 144hz 1ms 24" version for 145$
@@sirhatrick_8980 Human eye can't actually notice the difference between 0,001s and 0,004s so it's a lot better decision to buy a 144hz VA panel monitor. TN is old and bad.
I got my LG ultrawide monitor used on eBay about a year ago. I ordered it for its aspect ratio, though when I got it I was surprised to know that not only did it have Freesync, but it also was able to display in 75Hz. While it's not a huge upgrade over 60, it's still nice to have and it gives it that extra "natural" feeling.
75Hz is perfect for playing heavy AAA games on ultra with AMD RX 5700.
That is a good point. :D
5700 should easily pull 144hz @ 1080p in alot of games. With the price of 144hz now dipping under $150 I dont see any reason not to spend the extra 30-50 dollar premium over a 75hz monitor.
Me, a broke human being: cries in csgo with 75hz
Darrin Hillier My PC doesn’t run 120 FPS on a 120 hz monitor so now i’m playing 72hz :(
@@colbypyles3831 at least you have the option available when you upgrade your hardware
So I just found out that my monitor is capable of being overclocked from 60Hz to 75Hz, and boy let me tell you.. I've never, and I mean never seen above 60fps before, and I've played games enough now that my eyes are VERY sensitive to refresh rate, but 75fps was.. an experience. It confused me at much smoother it looked and how much quicker I got information. Actually, 100% improved my performance in games as well.. like a lot so far. I'd wager that 120Hz+ feels absolutely amazing to a point where there might be no going back. It's already a bit hard for me to return to 60.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : I love your videos mate, because you are so steady and nonhasty learning dude....if you stay uncorrupted on youtube, there is gonna be a bright future for you here ;). Keep up the good work mate and I can't wait for the next refresh rate video :).
That is very nice of you to say. :D Thank you very much for the positive comment.
I wonder how many times it took to take that hi footage to get the perfect hi
Haha!! Funny enough that was the first attempt. :P
impossible.
When I got my 75Hz monitor I noticed immediately and am irritated playing 60Hz now.. it's remarkable and much more than I expected when I originally bought it looking at the specs.
When you are in a real game, your focus is on the game not on the fps. This is why you lose.
Yeah, I was dying a lot.
@@Kiwi-9381 why?
Good advice lol
i just found out that my 60Hz monitor can run 75Hz.. and i immediately saw the difference.. i was so shocked that it was smooth af.. cant wait to get a 144Hz monitor
let me tell you: Ive used 60hz for all my life until I found out that there is something called "overclocking". As soon as I found out I calculated my Monitors max Refreshrate and it turns out to be 82. something. I set it to 80 and tested it. Turns out my hdmi cable only supports 75hz at 1080p. I locked it at 75 and holy shit it makes such a big difference. Hitting moving targets its so much easier and hitting flickshots is just a day and night difference, at least in csgo.
Wont stop me from getting a 240hz Monitor tho hehehehe.
day and night? Imagine what 240hz or just 144hz would be
@@CrackCECKer yea I know. im looking forward to that hehe
@@LS5D hey, good thing you replied. I've turned to 75hz too since then (turned out my monitor supported it at lowered 4:3 resolution) but I can't say I notice *that* much of a difference. Maybe I was used to 60hz so much that it would need a change to 120hz at least for me to really notice.
Like, it is smoother. But not in a way that I can actively tell I'm better now or that I'm worse with 60hz
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Anna the noob says, “Don’t forget about motion blur...” haha
Do the 75Hz monitors have lightboost/backlight-strobing/low-persistence? That could make a bigger difference than the framerate increase itself. 60Hz will flicker noticeably with low-persistence, so it's generally not done, but 75Hz is where the flicker starts to become imperceptible to most humans.
Anna was so accurate about how the companies monopolizes the market by giving something with so minimal difference and charging more from the customers. Sure the difference is subtle but it isn't the 40-50$ worth extra over a standard 60hz.
I can’t believe there are people that don’t see a difference in 60 vs 144. You need to see an eye doctor 😂
Spectrum Dennis 60 to 144 feels like 60 to 85
@@angelzx7961 please check your eyes to doctor
Game Machine Please check your grammar to english teacher.
Game Machine your grammar makes you seem uneducated
They're not experienced in looking at animation as still frames, let alone nitpicking it, that's why
Thanks for adding Bf5 to your test bench...…………….
:D
I have a 60 and a 75 sitting beside each other. The difference is very much there. The jump from 60 to 75 is more visible than the jump from 144 to 240. 240 is an overkill for our slow human brains. If your budget allows - go for 144. If not - 75 is still a significant upgrade.
You both literally noticed difference almost every time! How on earth did you conclude that that difference doesn't matter?
Technically speaking it's a 25% difference 🤔
The reason it's easier for you to differentiate the refresh rate this time was because of the lack of motion blur that gives the illusion of smoothness. You should redo the 60hz vs 144hz test again without motion blur and see how quickly you're able to tell the difference.
I recently bought a 75 Hz monitor and the difference was clear as night and day. I can't even imagine how 144 hz even feels like.
I think 75 Hz monitors are best for budget gaming where you have a mainstream gpu and not a high end one which can atleast push like 80 fps on latest titles, with vsync enabled the latency is much better which would be 13.3 ms.
Actually the most valuable video so far.. realistic comparison and you (two) nailed it in the conclusion
75hz is good imo,once i get to 95hz with freesync i cant tell it from 144hz
Thank you Dawid and Anna for this video. It helped me make a decision on a monitor.
I just noticed that I was always playing at 60Hz, then I went into the display settings and found out... *facepalm*
No over clocking 60hz to 75hz brings some jitteriness because it brings more input lag.. A true 75hz monitor have much lower input lag and frame stuttering, not to mention, you can even overclock a true 75hz to near 90hz
I feel the difference from 60-75 more then 75 vs 144
the same.
That's why people need to buy 75hz instead of 144hz, literally requires less powerful gpu for little slower reaction time, worth it
I got a 75hz monitor, a few months back. I didn’t really notice a difference but then when I went back to 60Hz when I was playing on my friend’s setup, the difference was night and day
Imagine 144 hz
I had a 75hz 1280*1024 monitor since 2012 till 2017, i sold it when i assembled my gaming pc, i miss it now.
Btw Dawid do you know a 1440p/4k monitor with deep deep blacks? I would buy it for modded Skyrim, i need my dark nights.
That's cool. Interesting resolution, is that a 19x10 monitor?
As far as deep blacks go, anything with a VA monitor would be a good choice. Samsung has a high refresh rate 1440P monitor with a VA panel and quantum dot for better colour accuracy. Let me go find it's name then I will update this comment. That should have decent dark blacks.
@@DawidDoesTechStuffI think it was 5/4, now i have a xb271hu acer predator 1440p ips 165hz, great monitor, but the blacks are 6/10. I was thinking, this guy has 40k subs and still replies comments.
OLED/AMOLED are best lol
But you wouldn’t play skyrim at 144hz so why?
@@Michealxlr it can't run at 144 fps lel
Its good that theres is a noticeable difference between the two. I'm going to take credit for this video idea :) i tried to overclock my monitor like people were saying in the last video but i could only get it to 65, it didnt seems worth it.
You can very much take credit for this video idea. :D Thank you.
Yeah, that is always kind of the problem with overclocking, the results can vary. I do t know if that extra 5Hz will be noticeable. Maybe I should try a video to see what the smallest noticeable difference is.
You can try different timings, just google. My 24" Dell was able to reach 69 until I tried some manual timings and now got 76Hz which is really visible difference.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff is
Great video as always Dawid!
Thank you. :D
i recently bought a 144 hz monitor dont buy it you wont feel a difference
its exaclty same
coz im only still getting 15fps XD
F in the chat for a gamer like.me.stuck on a dual 1080p 60hz monitors with rtx 3070 but it does mean my usage is so low that my pc temperatures are insaneee. Like it never gets hot
i got triggered when she called them zombies
Please do this again with 75Hz vs 144Hz
If I'm not looking for it I can't see differance (like they are trying to do here)
I would believe that. I really had to look for it to find the difference.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff my laptop's got a 144hz display, I didn't even notice it until I read it on the box, now I can't use my old 75hz laptop without noticing, makes me aware to look for it!
@@uselessgamer234 144Hz does make it very difficult to go back to anything else.
I've just switched from 75hz to 144hz and the difference between the 75hz on this new monitor and 75hz on the old one is like night and day... 75hz on the new monitor feels much chopper than what it feels like on an actual 75hz monitor... Same went for when I was comparing 60hz on the old 75hz monitor to my even older 60hz base monitor... I honestly don't think these tests on non native refresh rates are any accurate.
Dude I was just testing this last night. I went this month to 144hz after years on 60-75. After a couple weeks I tried 60-75 again and I don't remember them being this awful, like the high refresh monitor is really bad going that low compared to a native 60-75hz panel.
1:05 that laugh sounds like "kill me"
75 was a popular refresh rate back in the old days of 5:4 monitors with 1280x1024
say that to console players :D
I can tell the difference between 75Hz and 60Hz. I had a 75Hz before I upgraded to 144Hz. Now both feel pretty bad. I have been spoilt
On a CRT the difference between 60 and 75 is huge, can'´t say I would spot it easily on an LCD. Not used LCD at 60 much though. Then again the reason I used CRT for so long before I swwwitched was because I really hate the graphics not keeping up.
I have a Dell office monitor that was originally at 1080p 60Hz but I recently found out that it supported 75Hz without OCing so I went for it and I love it.
What model is your monitor?
Yeah I went straight from 60 to 144, but honestly recently I've encountered some games that I can't push over 100, and so I've been settling for capping the frame rate to get smoother frametimes and I was initally just capping things at 60fps but it felt baaad, and I couldn't believe how much smoother weird numbers like 75 or even 85 feel.
Honestly though I feel like once the framerate gets above 120fps, diminishing returns really kick in. Like I can tell the difference, but in gameplay as long as the fps doesn't dip below 120 or heck really 100fps (especially with g-sync) I think it feels smooth.
"Actually they are satanic spawn."
NEEEEEEEEEEeeeerd!
*points at self
Dude, 35 seconds of the video and I'm already suscribed.
But,75hz can be oveclocked to more higher refresh rate,(I dont know how higher it can be).
That's a good point. How far it can overclock depends on the monitor I guess. Some 60Hz monitors can also overclock a bit. :)
I got 66hz on a 60hz panel at full HD.
Got 78hz on a lower resolution(75hz), same monitor.
Still a 10% gain at 1920-1080.
@@hoihallo2904 Thats pretty good.I overclocked mine 1080p samsung monitor to 75Hz 100% scale res.
What cable were you guys using? I figure Display Port would be superior but my monitor only supports HDMI and got mine up to 74Hz only
Cycie i use a hdmi adapter on a vga cable and on the nvidia panel i just put 75hz on full res and on lower res (800x600) i got to 80 but i use 1920x1080 75hz
Very nice video and test! Also I like your keyboard :)
It's just 15hz, but almost everyone can tell difference between 60hz and 75hz. 75hz is ALOT smoother
Saigonas 15hz smoother
the human eye can only see 1 gb of hz!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JustANinja the human eye can only see 360p and everything above is a waste
You are right, only 15 frames but its really noticeable!!
To my eye, I would say it's a lot smoother. I found it fairly difficult to tell to be honest.
Thanks for the comments. :D
Question. Should i change from 60 hertz tp 75 hertz ? But i play on console so 60 fps?
@PandaTech ty
"umm yeah I think it is..."
Just yesterday I went with a 24” 1080 Acer KG241Q 75hz, but I moved up from a ten+ year old Samsung monitor that was 1680x1050 59 hz (16:10 aspect ratio), and for me it was a night and day difference. I think anyone that is on a budget upgrading from an older monitor, there are some really good priced TN panels with good picture quality. But if someone currently has a 1080p IPS at 60hz, it might not be a huge jump.
Personally I did feel a significant increase in smoothness in just that 16 FPS increase in games like Metro Last Light, FarCry 5, and Doom Eternal, but that was likely because I haven’t already had an opportunity to use and get used to a 144hz monitor. I think I would feel differently about it if I have used 144hz monitors before.
Also, not everyone would have a GPU capable of making the jump to 144 hz to meet that refresh rate, and for those looking for an increase, 75 is a nice middle ground.
If money wasn’t an option though, I’d go 144hz
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6:06 Yes the typo was very surpriseing.
I can see the difference 60 to 85mhz but not all game that easy to see. Normal its 3440x1440 60hz but i oc it to 85hz
But its more no then Yes for me.
Bro where the fuck did u get 85MHz from?
In my experience... The 60hz and 75hz versions of the same monitors are pretty much evenly priced. I picked up a 75hz dell monitor on sale recently that was actually a bit cheaper than the 60hz version of the same monitor.
I would definitely say that the difference is very subtle but if they're the same price you might as well pick up the 75hz monitor.
i would pick the 75 just so i could overclock it to 90hz and get a super noticeable difference
@@ben_.q don't hold your breath on that one hey... Some might overclock but I'm not sure you'd get to 90hz on most of them. More over you'd probably break your monitor if you tried to get that far.
@@waseemh3863 that is true, some dont even overclock more than 5-10 hz
@@waseemh3863 i got 60 to 75hz so 75 to 90 may be possible
@@ben_.q that's pretty impressive actually. The best I've ever managed was from 60hz to 66hz on my old monitor.
I've been using 75hz for 13 years straight. When I work with 60hz even the mouse movement confuses me and irritates cause it's weird. It really feels like it's being...torn.
I just came into ur channel for the first time and this channel probably looks dope
Went from a 75hz monitor to a 144hz oc'd to 150hz, so I litterally have 100% more refreshes! So smooth!
75 hz feels really good on CRTs and 70 is enough to not see obnoxious flicker on bright objects. I tend to play at 85 on my CRT which is comparable to my 144 Hz LCD.
It’s really odd how much smoother a small jump in Hz actually makes a difference. I’ve tested it myself, and 75 is definitely noticeable compared to 60.
Just feels more smooth, and less camera lag when moving around.
you should test 60hz vs 75hz vs 100hz vs 120hz vs 144hz vs 240hz
Video starts at 2:38
I have always loved higher refresh rates all the way back with the expensive $600 Sony 21" CRT Trinitron that could hit 100hz. Funny once I went LCD I haven't gone up to the higher refresh rate monitors which I know I would love. I bought a 2560x1080 @ 75hz a few years back and it was quite noticeable to go from 60 to 75hz. I look forward to a 3880x1440 @ 100hz+ at some point. Not going too high in resolution and refresh rate really keeps the upgrades from being needed so soon. I know I won't be able to go back once I buy a really nice monitor, I know the $500 GPU will be next. 75hz is good for now.
Ahh I love these 144hz Scpetre monitors that have like 150$ shipping 😄
I got one, it was on sale 128 shipped. It has noticable ghosting but would rather have that at 144hz than no ghosting at 60-75hz...
i have a 75 hz sceptre monitor 20 inch for 60 dollars no shipping fees or anything
The Acer SB220Q is a 22" IPS 75hz monitor with Freesync for $89 on Amazon... it's high quality and packed with features for cheap price and a 75hz monitor... that's a go to product in that price range.
Is it borderless? There's an LG monitor of the same calibre for a similar price too.
@@HandleIsNewAndBad It has a Zero-frame design | ultra-thin | 4ms response time | IPS panel... look it up on Amazon... a lot of tech channels (like Linus) recommend it too.
@@wolfshanze5980 it's perfect for its price then. I already own the lg 22 inch though.
I think that 75 or 100 hz should be the new standard for games not 60. 60 feels to slow now a days
I use 144Hz but I feel like anything above 80fps is pretty smooth, below that it starts getting worse and worse. Obviously 144fps is better thab 80fps but the difference is smaller.
@@RoboGamerNL Yeah, if I get about 90 fps then that's enough for me. Only twitch games like CS:GO need an insane amount of fps. IMHO.
@@DJ_Dopamine You need fps not hz though.
nah 60 is still enough for games like gta, tomb raider etc. If you play competitive games(csgo, overwatch, fortnite, pubg etc.) then something like 120 or 144 is a must.
@@sonic344ify u need hz for fps
I remember it was easy to tell this on crt but I doubt I could readily observe this on an lcd or oled. I’m not surprised it was fairly easy for her with the glasses as that’s part of what made that easier on crts
Maybe buying a 75hz monitor isn't worth it but overclocking your 60hz one is sometimes a great idea. And I have to say, having played on 75hz for 4 years now, when you go back to 60 unintentionally, you will feel a massive difference, especially in really competitive shooters like CSGO. Maybe you guys were to spoiled from the 140hz you tested before (I myself never experienced 140hz).
The DP port on my Sceptre 24 inch monitor seems to have stopped work. The monitor will do 75Hz with DP, but only 60Hz with HDMI. I have it connect with HDMI and I don't notice any difference. Now I'm not a game player. Just do regular computer stuff. Most of the videos I watch are on either X or RUclips.
I like your vids when y’all do em together there interesting
Im glad you like them, we also really enjoy making them. :D
I went from 60 to 75 when 144 was overprised and the 25% difference was amazing. It also depends on the game. Tombraider difference is less then rage 2 doom and wolfenstein (yep vulkan)
If you dont buy new graphic card and CPU 75 refresh rate will be enough for a long while considering that newer games are good on 60-70 fps on high settings or even ultra..
Honestly it's a pretty noticeable difference imo
not really. i got a 75hz monitor. and the difference is minimal. especially because i'm stuck with 60fps when playing fallout 4. because fallout 4 is a 60fps game. if i unlock the fps. the lock picking will be screwed.
i have 75hz monitor, because for some reason. they only sell new 75hz monitor on my country.
i got it for cheap. and i pick the ips version. and made by acer.
while samsung is same price, but using TN panel or their very own panel.
@@DMDMDM7 but I said imo (in my opinion) which country are you in?
@@luay2805 - indonesia. acer and LG in here. are selling 22 inch 75hz ips monitor for cheap price. while samsung tried to rip everyone off with their monitor...
That's interesting. I do think it does vary between individuals.
Loner, I'm sorry to hear that Samsung monitors are expensive, but Acer does make some pretty good monitors at least. :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff - yup. the monitor are great. but the speakers on the monitor sucks badly. they are barely audible. even on full volume.
its trully not a bad deal for the acer monitor. i was stuck between LG and Acer. so i pick acer. cant remember why i pick acer.
and well... it was samsung lost. not my lost. i think barely anyone gonna pick samsung. unless they didnt check the specs. and only look at the brand name.
I was surprised by how noticable the difference is, especially in VR. 60hz VR can feel really odd with less responsiveness, more visible frame flashing, and less overall visual clarity during motion. But as soon as I switch back to 75hz through my oculus settings, those issues just vanish.
ive been playing on 60hz my entire life, today i got a 75hz and i can EASILY tell the difference
@Edgardo Villanueva the hz increase...
In germany its actually gotten hard to find 60 hz monitors. even the cheapest 23.8 inch 1080p ips monitors are 75 hz by default now.
I was surprised how much of a difference it was for me when I switched to 75hz from 60hz :)
That's very helpfull... thx!
You can overclock most 60hz monitors to 75hz (or even more.) I'm not sure it's worth doing though, really. Maybe in games like Battlefield, it could be?
I can tell the difference between 60 and 62 hz
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trip
Wow
I have a 75hz How far can i overclock?
I mean, it's 25% more. Lol.
That's 25% faster reaction time for me to hit my shots. :D
I am looking to upgrade my monitor and the only reasonable one I can afford at 2k (upgrading from 1080p 60hz) is 75 hertz. I am glad there is a difference as I would like to play higher frames.
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I wonder how does the ambient light affect the experience. For example lights in the room might flicker at either 50hz/60Hz or at some other random frequency. I remember this used to be a big deal with CRT monitors and incandescent lights.
Why does Anna always remind me of Harry-Potter lol :p
Imagine of she talks like a Harry Potter
harry potter is the best
It's a big difference especially when u a true gamer. I got use to 75 and never went back. It wont be as noticable to people who don't grind or the people who says there is no difference between 144 and 240
144 hz vs 120hz
You won't notice the difference.
Depends on the game, e sports title like csgo u will feel the diff especially around 200++ frames
I thinks it's the same beetween 144 and 165hz.
That is also an interesting test. :D Although are there still some 120Hz monitors? I feel like these days 144Hz is more standard?
@@DawidDoesTechStuff my monitor will do 144hz on DP , and 120hz on DVI 😀
but that the thing with refresh rates, you don't actually notice a very large difference untill you get used to it and then have to go back to a lower one. the difference will be night and day