US Marines HATE Marine Veteran Jameson Travels?!
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I'm a Marine veteran and I support Jameson, his content is solid. Marine veterans tend to be some of the most DIVA-ass individuals I have ever had the pleasure to meet.
It's the Reddit generation, of weak ass pick-me kids, that is complaining. They didn't get beaten enough (at all) as children, so they have no idea what it feels like to get fucked up by life, and forge through it. I'm convinced that's why (or at least a huge reason why) they're so suicidal.
Did not serve in Djibouti did you. Yes I’m old
@@markwalker4485 What claiming to be Legion Étranger? Camp Lemonnier being made over to the US in 2001/2 wasn't all that long ago. And I am old enough to have had SecDef Lloyd Austin as a company commander.
They're not the only ones the army does it as well and the seal community with mr.ballen did the same
I never served but I like watching his channel and have a lot of respect for him.
I support the man, he speaks what's on his mind and doesn't care what people think or say. We need more people like him, people are too soft and need to get off their feelings
Who u like to say that to all the marines who are about to commit suicide
Yeah I like his channel too. I might not agree with all of his political stances but I always support fellow vets and respect their opinions.
His entire personality is being offended by the modern military....
@@aragincajun4789His takes are honestly pretty mild.
He's annoying
I’ve seen some of his videos. The guy’s been pretty down to earth and open minded. He try’s to understand the younger generation while offering knowledge and experience from his old days. What could possibly make people hate him now?
“Reditors” oh, well it all makes sense now.
He gives his opinion, then asks his viewers what they think. There's nothing to hate about his channel, except the fact that nearly everyone in the comments dogs the last two generations of weaklings harder than JT ever has, and they deserve every criticism.
@@OneTruePhreak GDR they deserve the criticism, And going after not just JT but every Vet who, regardless of how big their channel has gotten over YEARS of hard work just highlights most of that criticism and how right it is. And lets be honest a lot of the shade thrown at the military today isn't focused so much on the enlisted but the upper office ranks like the JCoS. I often times sympathize with the younger generation and all the BS they currently have to deal with on top of previously established BS that has been around a long damn time in the armed services. This is what a lot of Vets speak on from Jacko to JT, and all the guys in between, sure there are some who come at it differently like Nico Ortiz but the young man is funny as hell most times sand that's something that is needed. For the younger generations to get all bent out of shape because older Vets draw a comparison between their time in the service with what they are seeing now is ridiculous. They are not being shitted on they way a lot of us older Vets were by even older Vets, When I was a snot nosed 0311 back in the mid 90's there were always some older vets, not all but some, who thought we had it much easier than they did. From training to deployments, and to a degree they are right but that difference came because of changes in tactics equipment communications capability and a higher overall education for those enlisting. I also think that when the younger generation sees/hears a video or opinion by an older veteran that seems like its picking on them they should think about it from the perspective of an older brother or sister who saw this BS coming and how it affected them and their survivability while deployed. A lot of that comes from a place of anger and frustration, not focused at the newer generations currently serving but the Command apparatus cause it is inevitably going to cost American Soldier's Sailor's Airmen and Marines their lives. The older veterans saw this first hand and the last thing many of them want is to have their younger brothers and sisters in the service to go through it themselves, sure shit happens, but when a lot of the loss of life is because of incompetent command structure who are looking to save their own asses in the political meat grinder the buck needs to stop there.
Extremely well said!@@jericho1-4
I’m a Marine vet of JT’s era and I too am appalled at the level of physical fitness in todays youth as I was heavily involved in athletics in my youth but we didn’t have the distractions todays youth has. If I had the internet & video games in my youth I don’t think I would be willing to practice football for 4 hours a day as I did, I played sports because that’s all we had back then. Add the easily accessible junk food 24/7 what do you thinks going to happen.
100% The dude is pretty chill. Even when he's dragging people it's pretty mild. He's not tearing people apart like a lot of youtubers resort to.
If they hate JT that makes me like him even more
The truth pisses them off
Likewise. I happen to like him for his contents.
Agreed 👍
I think those of us serving now get tired of hearing the old "these kids are weak" line. The service members before him said the same damn thing about his generation too. He's just another out of touch old man.
@@jisezerIt may just be you. I know my son, who just got out about two years ago loves JT, and laughs his ass off at all of the butthurt. Costco has vagisil on sale until the end of the year.
Jameson Travels is just an older Marine giving his perspective. He's not telling anyone to do anything. Imagine trying to say that he's making a stint in military his whole personality, while simultaneously giving a shit whatsoever. LOL
Based comment
Don’t go that far. He has his experiences and opinions which is why he is enjoyable.
I served in the USN 1964-1970, and am appalled by what the military has morphed into. Jameson is just documenting that process.
Currently in US Navy with 18 years and I completly agree with Jameson and your viewpoint. Wokeness, political correctness and poor leadership stemming from the top are too prevalent.
Totally agree. I got out in 2005.
I started seeing this woke crap coming up under the "political correctness" title while in. And was seeing how the service was changing and weakening itself to meet these new PC objectives.
Was going to stay and retire but I could not in good conscience keep serving with how the Navy was changing.
Retiring soon USAF/Air Guard came in 31May2001. He always leaves the floor open for people to agree and disagree with him. He isn't stating fact, he is just stating his opinion. There is definitely changes of culture I am not a fan of.
@Tairai_Daos Congrats on your upcoming retirement. I'm in your military generation. Enlisted in the USAF/WVANG in June 2001. We're the old ones now, lol. Strange how quickly that happens... best of luck to you!
I served in the Army 69/71 and I agree with you and Jameson I believe this country and the military has gotten soft in the head with this shit show they call wokeness
I’ve been watching Jameson travels for years. Absolutely love his channel and the perspective he gives especially as an older generation even highlighting the issues about toxic leadership and how it was still a problem back in the day.
I love James he earned the title got a homerable discharge he can have an option. Who cares if he only did one term or if he went to war or not. He's a Marine. I can't believe we are having this discussion. We all have a constitutional right we all took the oath
*honorable *opinion
@@roythousand13Yeah back then you had the enlistedman's quick-ready discharge (EQD) where you'd have the choice of either A: Dukes Of Hazzard their mustang into the battalion commander's office or B: Dealer's choice effectively, or you could go the boy scout route and get honorably discharged
Agreed. I think the biggest criticism of him is that he labels the modern military as soft. But let's get real EVERY generation says that about the next one. People serving now will be the same and think they served when the military was "tough."
@@ralphrodriguez9037but it's true. I am softer than my fathers generation. My father was softer than his father. Our success has made our society soft by the conveniences and automation we enjoy. Our society has shifted morals. Those morals have weakened our ability conduct and order society properly.
We have become to value feeling over fact and truth. We coddle and enable instead of expecting people to be better and rise up to the standards. Lowering standards is retarted and makes your whole operation (civilian or military) weaker.
Son we are in a decline. Wake up and see it. Men actual red blooded men are the only thing that is going to save us. Men need to become men again and women need to become women again. Not these masculine women we have today who are of no use to themselves or anyone else.
The mental weakness must be eliminated. Tired of these pukes wearing their mental illnesses like a badge of honor to excuse their bad behavior. It's lazy and weak. At almost half a century old. I can honestly say I don't have a clue what aniexity or depression is. I laugh at people when they talk about its "debilitating" I can't do this or I can't do that. When most of it is a complete farce. Lack of mental discipline. Lack of being in control of one's self. Have I been sad sure. Have I been nervous sure. But you teach yourself to push through that. You out yourself into uncomfortable positions to train yourself to be able to deal with those situations.
The strong are supposed to lift up the weak. Help them become strong. Not lay down and let them rule.
@@ralphrodriguez9037both of you aren’t wrong though, every generation says that about the next because our society is privileged and each generation has it easier than the last, maybe not every aspect, but you can’t deny that this generation of people are softer than the ones before and those people are still in every branch complaining about how hard it is, it doesn’t speak for every one but there is definitely some legitimacy to that claim
I'm 6 years in the Air Force, and Jameson is right, the military is woke ASF. The people who are hearing are really woke.
Same here did 6 years. I did an add-on to contract 3rd base now. An you can tell precovid vers after covid
Maybe you like fascism or possibly communism. Sounds like you love a government like Hitler's and Stalin's. Go back in time join you'll be in a "unwoke" military. Or join Putin's.
Does the AF really count? 🤣🤣
@@MasterBlasterSr 😅😅 yeah despite not being the Marine Corps, we do still count.
@masterblaster Hey man. Somebody has to push the buttons and yank on the sticks to transport shit for the military or blow shit up. But Only if the HVAC and NIPR is working, or we would be in real adversity
Haters probably haven’t watched many of his videos. He’s CONSTANTLY saying, “this may have changed, but when I served…”. He’s clearly expressing views from a different perspective than a current active duty person. Always good to get away from group think and see what an outsider’s perspective is.
That's a good take to have.
Plus, there's probably a lot of lost knowledge to be gained from prior military generations' experience.
JT is a great guy, with great content. I’m 30, prior Marine with 2 enlistments and I have zero idea how anyone could hate this guy.
People love to bitch and moan just about everything it seems.
Because he’s not afraid to call out dbags.
This Marine loves his content.
Imagine someone having a different perspective than you. They claim to be accepting and tolerant, but they don't tolerate people who have opinions different than theirs at the same time. Make it make sense.
Correct. Exactly what they are trying to do to Jameson.
Society in the 21st century in a nutshell.
I’ve always respected Jameson for his honesty and humbleness when I first discovered his channel around 2016. Always revere the Old Breed 🇺🇸
Right. I'm not military, but I respect his opinions. The military is largely Woke. None of these snowflakes trashing him refute how the military is Woke lol. Pussies
Not "US Marines", "some young, woke US Marines".
Claiming to be marines.
@@Tragicide like my co-workers who pretend to be married and tell other people on Reddit to dump their husbands on Reddit just because.
They're the Marines of female standards. Such a weak generation.
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458toxic femininity
i think 3 of the woke marines just got their asses handed to them in san clemente lol. i shudder to think what has become of the corp today if those guys (and these whiners) are representative of the force now.
These young guys need to remember, one day they are going to be the old guys. I remember standing in line at personnel needing to turn in a travel voucher or something, there was an aged gentleman behind me, out of respect for him, I let him go first. Trying to get a hop back overseas, same thing. Young people have lost sight of who they will become and respect for those that served before them. Everyone who served wore that uniform and bled the same color blood. I am sure I am going to get flamed for saying all this, I am no boomer but did my time and some.
TBH a lot of the shade being thrown at the military today is at the command structure not the ":Boots", we all see them and how different they are from our time in the service and a lot of us know if shit hits the fan a lot of them are going to get hurt or god forbid killed. Something NO VETERAN regardless of when they served want's to see or have happen, they are taking our displeasure with all the changes as a personal attack when in fact it's far from it. We've all lost friends as this shit was slowly and steadily creeping it's way into the armed forces. A lot of Vets see these changes and make valid comparisons to their time in the military, almost like they are trying to fight for our younger brothers and sisters in uniform as they are limited in their speech whereas we are not. This is something the newer generation of Soldiers Sailors Airmen Coastee's and Marines might want to consider.
Very well stated@@jericho1-4
Former Sailor here and I've been watching Jamesons videos for some time. Seems like a personable and standup guy. He has been demonitized by YT and still produces content.
As a Marine veteran, I don't hate him. I agree with him.
Im in the 25-35 range. I watch Jameson Travels (though I dont really watch his Odins Men channel, not my speed).
My dad is a USMC SSgt Vet (most notably serving in OEF, but he served 10 years total , pre and post 9/11) and watching Jameson react is basically like watching what it would be like to see my own father making YT content.
In early 2020 I finally stopped delaying what I felt was the inevitable of continuing the family tradition of service (which my dad very much did not want for me) and started the enlistment process, had just finished taking my ASVAB and needed to have the next step scheduled by my recruiter, but then COVID became such a big deal so quickly and I was told all non-essential and non-med folks were being put on a hold so they could push essential and med folks through basic ASAP and get them going. Before, during, and after all of this I had become obsessed with getting as much military info as possible to prep for the life I was signing myself up to life for, and watching Jameson's content always kinda soothed my nerves because again, it was like watching my dad making content. I understand the perspective and humor and such (as much as a civ can) thanks to my dad, and so it was almost like I was just taking a few minutes to hang out with him.
Irl, my dad is a real funny and goofy guy, he was a stereotypical skinny nerd type before the Marines turned him into a giant (and paid for his laser eye surgery so he could stop wearing glasses lol). But when its about military stuff, he CAN be funny and goofy, but more often it flips a sort of "serious switch" and he is SSgt Dad. But Jameson is able to let me sort of simulate watching my dad talk about military stuff as my USMC Vet dad, and not as SSgt Dad, if that makes any sense.
I appreciate his content, even if I dont always agree with it or dont always understand it.
For those that care to hear what happened with my enlistment:
I ended up never finishing the enlistment process. I would call the recruiter once a month to check in and would be told the same thing, and after the third time I just stopped calling. By mid-2020 it was already a crapshow, and I wasnt liking some of the stuff I was hearing from those in service at the time with how the military was handling things, across the board. I prioritized my family over my desire for military service, and I dont regret my decision. I scratch my "desire to serve" itch just fine as an Officer serving my community, especially now that I have more responsibility as a Senior Officer and FTO.
smart move
I was in when I found his channel and now that I’m out I still watch him. The ones not liking him are the ones who ruined it and turned the marines corps into high school drama within different units and their chain of command.
Personally, speaking as somebody of JTs age and serving in the Marines around the same time all I can say is these new Marines can just suck it if they don’t like what us old Marines have to say
Did we care what the older marines had to say?
@@jimbobntnr apparently respect is no longer part of the Corps......sad
@@usmcchet they can go cry about it, 5 mile lap, 80 pound rucksack, sucks to suck, respect the older generation that paved the way is my motto.
Agreed but it's cringe when then these non-wartime vets who did one and done enlistment try to gatekeep. Woke or not, many young dudes served in the gwot and actually did shit beyond basic training
wartime not wartime are we all not Marines? I served from 1992 to 1996, one enlistment, and missed GW1 and TWOT. I did do time in Somalia under semi-"combat" conditions. Does that make my opinion more or less valid. Does a CAR make your opinion more or less valid? I don't know what JT did during his time in the Corps but he was a Marine and that's good enough for me. @@ethanelder1055
I am an Army guy whose entire family is filled with Marines. JT is an old school Marine who is not in touch with the new generation of Marines. But the new generation (goes for Army too) is out of touch with what it means to be in the U.S. Military. Most of the new generation has not been to war. So they only k ow a peacetime force. A wartime force moves fast, and everything gets out in the back burner.
I joined in 2018, and deployed to Iraq 9 months after I got to my unit. After deployment, I understood why Vets rag on the military. The Army in Iraq was a different Army. Back stateside, the Army was filled with bs.
Alot of newer guys probably wouldnt like shipyard work either. When that deadline hits, and it hits quite often, all the safety/ normal regulations go out the window. People forget that its not always smooth at slow. Sometimes shit hits the fan and you gotta move
If young Marines don't like them what old Marines have to say, then they can GFT.
We always looked at old salty Marines as a source of knowledge and tried to keep their legacy and traditions alive.
This new generation should do the same.
If they’re transferring knowledge. Hurr durr is not knowledge.
I’m in my late 70s, served in the Navy in the mid 1960s, Viet Nam vet, & enjoy his channel.
I retired out of the Army in 2014 after 29 years, and I occasionally watch his channel. Never took him as being critical, just showing changes. I personally follow the Yusha Thomas first day after retirement video philosophy of IDGF. One thing the youngsters haven't realized yet is that there are changes, but many aspects of military service have remained the same for decades - my uncle is a Vietnam vet and he understands all of the BS stuff the Army did in OIF/OEF that I relate to him without any problem, due to his experiences as an NCO in Vietnam in the Army. I am sure that my Grandfather from WW2 would do the same if he was still alive.
I've heard from Vietnam Vets that they were not welcomed into the VFW when they came back. In recent years some of the Vietnam Vets have developed a negative attitude towards veterans who are not Vietnam Veterans.
My husband is currently discharging he’s a reservists and I’m a vet we watch him he’s funny 😂🤷♀️ and no we agree with him usually lol
Strange idk if this information (video title) is true haha
No matter how many years you served, you’re still a veteran.
Im 29 and I really love Jameson Travels videos. When i served, one contract to. I still feel like. What he talks about is the right things. It is true because you can see the difference between the administrations and the policy’s that goes downstream. During my tenure, i was lucky enough to see the difference between two administrations of thinking. While also seeing 3 different units way of working and three different branches way of doing things and other nations as well. I can safe to say that the boomer is right on the nail with his takes and ask the community what is their take are in the comments of his videos. So i dont know what the hate really is because the service as a whole. As for better or worse became a shit show. In my opinion and thats why recruiting and retention is so low 🤷🏻♂️
I'll second that. Was Army 2001 to 2011 but absolutely love all his content. Been watching him for a good minute now
@@davidbgooch9587 Amen brother, i bet you even have more stories than i do about this. Seeing the crazy policies across the DOD from war time America to basically a war in the white house/ Congress.
As usual the hate has ZERO intellectual content. If he's behind the times then update him with proper thinking instead of whining. Or, maybe that's all these Marines can do? Complain.
A lot of these "updates" are just wokisms that even active duty disagree with. He hasn't said anything out of pocket when it comes to the military and his thumbnails while ridiculous at times are there to get you to click. His perspective is still valid and very far from toxic.
"if he's behind the times then update him with proper thinking" thats narcistic thinking that is in direct contradiction of the first amendment. who the hell are you to decide what "proper thinking" is? and who the hell are you to force your will and ideology onto others... thats what tyrants do. are you a tyrant, traitor, and enemy of the American people?
Atleast we know hes not lying. He actually means what he says, doesn't care if it offends you. They cant recruit enough people anyways due to poor everything.
Jameson travels is an OG devil dog , us modern marines have been pussified he calls it out
I guess you can call me a Boomer Vet since I was born in that time frame. Served from 86' to 2016 so I guess I have a good perspective of military life. Most, not all, in the military these days have no idea how good they have it compared to the past. Shoot I had it better than those before me. Through my time I could tell a difference between how Soldiers acted and their abilities. Of course, you are always going to have your bad asses, but in the general population of the Army things have gotten laxer.
Gen X Vet not Boomer. 😊
@@JB-ys8mj You beat me to it...
30 years in? yeah, i'd say you probably have a good perspecitve.
Former Marine here. I subscribed to and enjoy both of you. If I don’t like the video I just scroll on. It’s pretty simple.
I was a 17 year old Marine back in 1969, Did my 3 and got out in 72. I served with the Draftees and there were a lot of tensions because of Vietnam Racism and of course Politics, Over 50,000 men died and many more were severely injured and when we came back home we were spit on and shunned. Looking back it could have been worse just check out the number of dead Marines from some of the Pacific Island Campaigns in WW2. I'd hate to hear what these newer Military people would have to say about the comments from them WW2 Vets were they still around.
Different times but We are all Marines and have a right to our own opinions. If you don't like what the man has to say don't watch his channel, Whole bunches of people saying all kinds of things on the internet that they wouldn't say to the man's face and that's my biggest complaint about the Internet.
God bless you sir! A lot of my senior enlisted were Vietnam vets when I served, and we look at them like they were gods!!! Always faithful brother and thank you for serving our great country!!
"he's getting hate"
What? That doesn't make any sense!
"on Reddit"
Oh, well that explains everything!
I volunteer with an all forces honor guard team at a national cemetery.
Most of us are Vietnam Era. On occasion, currently serving Marine honor guards will come & participate. Although you can obviously see & hear the differences between us, we treat each other with the utmost respect (to include the laughing & scratching that goes on). Anchors Aweigh & Semper Fi.🇺🇸
Society and the military got soft and ignorant!!!
@@CPSKrewJT isn't afraid to say the truth!! Stay safe brother 🙏
I’m let in on something. It’s purposely designed and built that way.
See they wanna push out all the conservative troops so they could create a generation of liberal troops that they could use as jack booted thugs.
Same shit that happened in South Africa when they kicked out all the white troops and only allowed black people in. Especially while part of their government is runned buy genocidal communists. As a result the legendary status quality of their military is no longer there anymore.
Jump to present day United States. The Biden administration just realized they made a big mistake because all the liberal sjws don’t wanna join up because of the ever growing threat of WW3, so they’re trying to bring back all the good troops that they kicked out because of the vaccine mandate.
Your mom was always soft and ignorant. Still a baddie though.
I watch you and JT. Served 1972 - 1976 USMC. Both of you carry on the good work, SemperFi!
I probably served before Jameson but I can say for sure I know his type. I'm not all judgey about my brothers, I never have been. The Corps is a very diverse place and we all have opinions, popular or not. I'm happy to give all my brothers equal space. I understand his perspective but I also think he is either ignoring or ignorant of what the Corps looks like today. It's still good to take his pulse on what he is seeing. I have an equal respect for Marines of today. Much has changed, these guys today have a much bigger mental load then I had. Things are more refined and have greater requirements. It's a different landscape. So I also like listening to the views of this channel. Our heritage dictates we pay reverence to those before and those after, and I feel it's that conversation that allows the Corps to move forward while also having those moves tempered by prior experience. The strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack. We need the discourse between old and new to remain strong. This is the way.
Edit - I also wanted to point out some stats. Of all the living current population of America only 1% have ever attempted earning the EGA. Only .8% have earned it and somewhere along the lines of .6% and .5% have completed their contract in a favorable status. So 99.5% of America either did not attempt or failed in this distinction. If you further take into account suicide rates and homeless numbers of Marine Vets we become a very very small but important minority in this country. It is vitally important we have a voice and we keep talking either amongst ourselves or in general with the public. We have provided a very real and tangible role in the success of this nation and our service needs to continue long after our contracts just to make sure we are all getting looked after when the ink is dry on the DD214. We take care of our own and we can only do that if we as a whole are not silent.
As a 24 yo civilian I like him he’s got a lot of wisdom and a good understanding
As a former marine 0311 I can say there's most likely 2 demographics that dislike him and I don't think age is 1.
1 audience is the " your opinion don't matter unless you have a CAR. The other one is simply the higher ups. Because they are just mad that someone who doesn't have much time under their belt has an opinion.
CAR holder here - agreed
CAR- three
@@Crixus0341 I’m happy to hear it - semper fi mortarman
Both demographics are products of the "everyone's a winner" & self entitled generation(s). They were envious of anyone with a badge or more ribbons than they had, and definitely a military back ground and experience different from theirs (especially if you were a retread PFC). It appears this bunch became those they were threatened by, and passed it along.
Jameson Travels is a cool level headed dude.
Regardless of whom served in the past, or present ,they all have a voice to speak that they've earned.
As a younger sailor, I enjoy his content, because he brings up some stupid stuff in the service. And he isn't afraid to say what he thinks.
This is what happens when the younger generations are getting played by the "older" "outdated" veteran and can't stand it.
All these people just feed more people his direction, keep it up, guys.
He speaks truths that many try to silence.
I'm a Boomer Veteran (USAF 1977-1981) also. I have viewed his channel and I find him down to earth. I also try to hear the viewpoints of the younger generations who have served or are serving. Alot of the problems with today's military are not all new problems. Really enjoy your channel!
USAF? Do you ever qualify as a real veteran?
Yes WE do...@@JU-bp7tx
I have my DD-214, do you?@@JU-bp7tx
Those were the same years I was Navy. The U.S. was anti military in 77 but things were better in 81. I then went in Air Force without basic training 82 to 86. My older and younger brothers were Air Force also.
@@John-isAround Yes, if you served in the military in the years right after Vietnam, you were treated like a cur dog. It did get better when Ronald Reagan became President. In hindsight, I wished I reupped for at least one more tour.
One thing in Marine culture that has almost completely eroded is the brotherhood that Marines should feel with one another. Nowadays if it is there, it’s conditional. Grunt vs POG, those that stayed fit and those that got out of shape. Tons of people in my family were Marines - my dad, uncle, my father-in-law to name a few, representing the Vietnam era, the Gulf War, the Cold War - and myself representing the GWOT. Each one of my relatives could stop anywhere and strike up a conversation with another Marine from any era, and it would always end with a clap on the back and a hearty “Semper Fi!” Now I’ll be lucky if I don’t get a disgusted sneer from an active duty grunt when I tell them I was Motor T.
Why that culture eroded is probably hotly debated, but if I had to guess it began with shitty Marines getting promoted to command and leadership roles, while each subsequent generation’s attitude gets worse and worse.
The Corps is still a powerful organization and the memory of the brotherhood is still there. It just needs to be revived somehow.
It started with Mundy and Krulak. Both of them ushered in the "every one's a winner" mentality. Drill field became a cut throat B billet. Recruiting became a career ender. SNCOs became marriage/financial counselors, life coaches, and personally responsible for the f-ups of their Marines. The "0" defect mentality (anything less than "Outstanding across the board= reenlistment/promotion denial. Shit birds became "leadership challenges" vice malcontents...and "shit birds". I watched the HQMC initiate and enforce the purging of Marines whose leadership experience threatened "B" billet commando Sr SNCOs, subpar Company grade (and field) officers, and boot lieutenants. All of this was wrapped in a package called "Total Quality Leadership", a novel idea created in university business courses that promoted a "One doesn't have to know the job, just be able to manage those that do (and take the credit)...always aware that your subordinates are out to screw you, and they must be tightly controlled". The military now gets what they want....no credible leadership and "woke" weakness.
I am a JT subscriber. I never served, but I agree with what he says. Younger people are emotional cluster f's that can't handle criticism. Probably all the ADD drugs they were on when they were kids or crack their parents were on.
I like most of his content. The newer military is doing just what we expect from them…crying. 😢
All branches of our military are "woke", and so are the large defense manufacturers.
Expect hard times.
how is the military woke exactly?
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
@kelllakell woke: you disagree with my totalitarian views therefore you are a racist, bigot, facsist, domestic terrorist, etc. etc.
The forced DEI initiatives are teaching this.
@@buckeye43210yup keep parroting
@@kelllakell🙄
Love his channels. He only speaks the truth
Jameson has been spot on all along!
JT is a goat and he is very reasonable and respectful even if he may disagree.
Why would you call him a goat though?
"They hated him, because he spoke the truth..."
The entitlement today is just so exasperating. I joined in 2000 and med retired from combat wounds in 2017. I spent half career enlisted/NCO and the last half as an officer. I currently now train officer cadets as a DOD contractor and interface with young Soldiers in an IET environment. A lot of these kids were indoor cats their entire childhood and it shows.
I served 02-06. One of the Marines saying is "Adapt and Overcome". The way I see it is as long as the basic foundations and traditions don't change then why does it matter. Marines is the only branch that weren't affected by recruiting losses. As I was a boot I was told I wasn't part of the old Marine Corps. Now I'm part of it 😂. I have a different life now so as long as the MC is still grinding away then I'll support them.
This is why I watch content before I comment. Been watching Jameson for years and I have never felt he was being offensive or biased. Nor does he act like he knows everything. He repeatedly states in multiple videos he doesn't have the view of today's generation and asks for comments from people who do. He relates things to his day and how he feels things may or may not be going in the correct direction.
No one hating on him has watched his content I know you shouldn't speak in absolutes but that's how I feel.
It's that nuanced satire. JT has a way of appearing disingenuous with his takes, and that's probably what triggers them. The late Rush Limbaugh did that all the time.
He is disliked because he is pointing out what a paper tiger we have become
Sounds to me like the haters have never watched his videos because his videos are all common sense.
I'm a Marine and I support him. He's older and can occasionally be out of touch, but I support him overall
I've watched Jameson Travels for awhile now and find his videos thoughtful. He gives his opinion and also asks viewers to chime in as well. Seems like the ones that hate him are just upset that someone points out their flaws. If they disagree maybe they should comment as well, maybe everyone will benefit from the discussion.
Being a Marine now is different from than grunts like myself and my peers 20 years ago. Being a infantryman was the Marines version of the varsity football team. We rarely ever seen FMs. I got out in 05. Still had don't ask don't tell. No females in any ground combat units. In our company anyone who didn't get a 1st class PFT twice got a page 11. Fall out of hump that was a page 11 too. I was at 29 Palms very easy place for a boot to do it. Things have changed from the Marines that fought during the 1st few years of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Somethings got better and somethings got worse. Hopefully the Corps doesn't lose our status as baddest warriors on the planet.
I got out in 1974 and I know it has changed immensely since I got out. Watching the Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan shows everyone that Marines are still the best combat troops around.
I’m 20 and I love Jameson
I did over two decades in the Army Infantry. It doesn't matter if you did four years or 40; if you received an Honorable discharge after fulfilling your commitment and doing your job to the best of your ability, you're entitled to share your opinion. If I'm not mistaken, Jameson Travels has mentioned being married to an Army officer, who may have recently retired. He seems fairly private about his personal life otherwise, which is respectful, but given his age and commentary, I'd venture to say his wife made it to at least battalion-level command, and he's been around the military far longer than a typical single enlistment Service Member has.
He has a target demographic, probably vets my age and older (mid-40s), and he has an obvious bias but always spins things into rhetorical questions. His persona comes across to me as someone who plays the part of an enlightened ignorant person, wanting to further understand current trends and military leadership, while already having his own opinions.
With RUclipsrs, there are definitely tiers for Vets: you have the Vet Bros like Nikko Ortiz, who emulates TikTokers and [probably] appeals to younger audiences, self-depreciating people like Matt Best from BRCC, who went from Ranger to successful businessman yet is still capable of having some fun and being goofy, men like MrBallen who was a SEAL and changed his formula when he got a lot of heat for initially focusing on his own combat service, and of course your channel, which I kind of consider to be similar to Jameson Travels in terms of layout and subject matter, though catering to a younger demographic (as you stated).
I work with marines everyday and from the guys I’ve talked to they all like him.
Edit: they’re all infantry marines that just wanna kill and drink tho so maybe that’s why.
Ps I definitely like him as well
As a Marine from 1976 to 1997, I usually agree with the types of videos posted by Jameson's Travels.
JT is a no nonsense feet on the ground kind of guy. He's a great dude.
Didn’t even think “marines” hated him. Gonna watch him more now, Reddit of all places too? Must be one of those “marine special forces seal master chief” guys
Or a disgruntled “they/ them” 🤣
The 'modern' marines from the reddit post had a point about his click baity thumbnails and "hyperbolic" oxer exaggerated views on certain topics of the military. But I think a piece of that is just for clicks(as said in this video) yes Jameson sharing his opinion, maybe it is harsh for some modern servicemen to feel like they're being degraded as 'not as tough' by some old head. But he's also running a channel & would want people to see his content like any other content creator.
But here is my take, most boomers are easily manipulated (example fox News) and when you put click bait stuff like "woke ruining... " boomers are going to take it to heart. I'll tell you this if you ask a boomer vet about stress card most will rant about how the military are soft and Yada Yada Yada. When in reality the stress cards never existed in boot / basic. But they all believe a lie the was and still is being profitable. That's my issue with channels like his. In my take, when you push a false narrative knowing full well it's false, it no longer becomes opinion and is in reality propaganda. And alot of what boomers watch are propaganda. Because it's tuned in to their hate of change. Boomers love the past because it was easier for them and hate change. And Gen x/y are nostalgic of the past but have managed to adapt to current times as the world changed so fast in such a short time when they grew up. And gen z/a are still in the process of finding themselves in an ever rapidly changing world.
It’s not just JT who is saying the recruits are soft…it’s military leadership saying it about the youth in general. So, these kids need to take it up with their bosses.
Military leadership is soft. They're the one's shaping the force.
@@redslate some are, the ones who aren’t are getting out
I served in the Corps, I support Jamerson. He's old school, the young people might think different. I was in the Corps back in 1965 to 1968. Semper Fi
They hate him because he's telling the truth. They hate him because of his moral standards. They hate him because he's older than them. They hate on him because he's successful. Mostly they hate him because they see him as some kind of authority that doesn't accept sissies. For all the reasons they hate the guy, I like him. A Man of fidelity is hard to find these days. Many of us Soldiers see things as he does.
I actually like him, best advice before joining in, he dislikes new generations film themselves tiktok dance inside the hospital with dying patients make me understand for a reason.
Thing is, there are certain constants of military life that have existed forever. Things like discipline, traditions, fitness and even time in the field that never change. The young Marines complaining about him (and those are predominately his topics) don’t seem aware of this. Because of those constants his views are relevant.
As an Army vet, I enjoy watching some of Jameson's content. The softness that he points out connects because many of us trained and played hard.
I get this. I understand the JT hate how it may seem like he’s out of touch w the younger generations of Marines. At the end of the day it’s his take, and he captivates well.
I think his insight and perspective is as valuable as anyone else’s
I could learn a few things from him…
I agree with alot of what JT has to say. I won’t agree with them 100% but I do value his insight and his input.
Those who deny valuable knowledge and experience from those that came before them are doomed to repeat mistakes that could’ve easily been prevented.
@@Tragicide well said. I’ve been turn with this in my life, but this is reassuring! So I guess I will continue to provide my insight with my young sailors.
If it matters IF IT MATTERS I am retired Army 21 years and I support everything I have seen . These " new" military people I am concerned with our country has to offer with some of these people.
JT make great content! The man keeps it 💯. Semper Fi JT! Keep it rolling brother!
I've been serving in the Army since 22FEB1995 and I watch many Vet channels, you're included. It's best to get a broad view of everyone's opinions to see stuff in a truer light. Keep up the great content. @NickyMGTV
spent 10 months getting in shape with the intentions of enlisting.
Went to speak to a local recruiter and was met with a man pretending to be a woman.
Decided to keep my back & knees intact. 🤷♂
I'm Army but I've been subscribed to Jameson Travels for years he's one of the most open minded and down to earth mil content creators I've ever viewed if ya'll hate him ya'll are the issue not him
OIF/OEF guy here and I completely agree with you 👍
Don't know who could hate him. I for one love his content.
It seems like a classic case of a large clique within the New Guard hating a prominent and vocal member of the Old Guard.
I see it happen all the time, even outside of the military.
I'm not in the military, I've never been in the military, but getting this from Reddit is kinda not credible. Most people from Reddit also don't know what they're talking about. But that's my opinion. Idk how to view Jameson Travels. I find him reasonably entertaining.
But I don't use him as a source. I don't really find him credible anyway. This is my POV. I find you, Task and Purpose, and Nikko Ortiz more credible than Jameson.
Agreed! I find him entertaining; however, I believe he's no different than the sheep who uses anything "woke" for views and such. i.e. His vid about,.."tell me the Marine Corps aint this bad". He makes a general video about them pogs, as if they are indicative of the majority of the Marine Corps, and they are not. I subscribe to a slew of military channels, that have showcased vids about Marine Corps readiness (in the past 2 months or so alone ), but he chose that video instead. Whatever for views right.....
One of the best comments so far. T&P is much better as a new source.
No point in being a hater. He's old and he's crotchety. And guess what? Someday YOU will be old and crotchety. He just has the old and crotchety vet perspective. One that's been a thing since the end of the very first war. If you're a vet you're heading down that path. The alternative is pushing grass by the roots. As for knowledge, I spent 27 years in the Army, officer AND enlisted. Even at the height of my career I never knew everything there was to know. Almost a decade out, I damn well know less. Even a 40 year 4 star general doesn't now _everything._ It is what it is. Watch or don't watch as it pleases you.
When watching Jameson he always asked to be corrected if things have changed since when he served.
Uh yes Nicky it sucks. BUT I made my own stolen valor video which actually got a good 5,800 views but I took it down because I felt I was being a mocking prick so I removed it. If people want to entertained by opinions on someone else's inappropriate behavior instead of halfway decent DIY content. Fine. But I'm NOT going to be an attention seeking jerk to get more views or subscribers 🤔
I didn't realize a veterans opinion didn't matter unless they served 20 plus years in the military... My grandfather did and he would have agreed with odins men content
Im a marine vet and i support the man and believe he is 100% in touch.
The stress cards were the army, as a former marine and retired navy I had had multiple army people tell me about the stress cards. I ask them what would they do when in war, ask the enemy for a time out.
I actually feel that the Navy Seals shouldn’t have a voice at all, and that they were never supposed to
*QUIET PROFESSIONALS* …unless you get the audiobook
i watched him for a while, and quit for the same reasons.
I'm a Marine veteran, I received my Honorable in 84. I like his conent across the board; I've been subscribed since his start.
I was never in the Military but I like His his channel. My Uncles , Many Relatives and friends served in combat during prolonged exposure under adverse condition’s for one enlistment period during different wars. One of My Sons served as a combat Paramedic in Iraq in His First enlistment in the Army before qualifying for Special Forces and a career in the Army as a Special Forces “ Doc”. My combat Veteran Uncles would scoff at anyone who suggested that one enlistment was not enough to establish credibility. Only a cherry would suggest that. My Father in Law who served in the 95th Infantry Div. In World War Two said “ We would have Killed that guy” referring to Sgt. Hartman after I asked Him what He thought of Full Metal Jacket. One of My Dad’s older brother’s saw more combat and killed more men as a combat engineer in the 289th RCT 75th Division in just the first few days of combat in the Battle of the Bulge than many prima donna Marines have or will in many consecutive enlistments. I do not say this to denigrate any who served but only those who sit in self righteous and negative judgement of other’s. I like this Marines persona, presentation and Commentaries. If I had served I would want to serve with people like Him regardless of how many enlistments
Jt just tells it how it is. Reddit is a cesspool.
I love Jameson and Odins Men. Haters are going to hate.
It's like hanging out with my uncle, except he's sober the whole time.
One video comes to mind for me. Jameson brought up a sailor that was out of shape and his uniform didn't fit.
If you served or didn't I'm sure you remember the consoling's and reg's on appearance and fitness. He made a fair point you should be in shape your uniform should fit. Yet people hated that video. Some things do change but some things don't a lot of standards from his time are still in place and not enforced as they once were. I credit him for pointing out honest flaws he sees, that a lot of people see and are too afraid or brainwashed to say anything about.