Everyone's calling me that😂gifted hater is way funnier, and way more entertaining, and much better at hating. I'm an "electric nipple clamps" version of gifted hater for snowboarding😂😂😂
Glad to see you give some respect to the kooks and casuals. Not all of us were lucky enough to live near snow and do this regularly throughout childhood. Personally, I grew up in Louisiana and played SSX Tricky in Middle School (would replay 'Untracked' on repeat for hours) and took a few vacations every few years or so before upending my life to move closer to mountains.
To be fair, to the majority of the population... all snowboarders are Kooks, we're discriminating against ourselves. Someone call the Office of Civil Rights.
I get the brand theory of "Core" snowboarding, but Russell Winfield and the dudes from the Bomb Hole had a better take. Russell explained that Core was originally short for Hardcore, similar to Gnar being short for Gnarly. Russell went on to explain that because snowboarding is so broad, there are many different ways you can be a "Core" snowboarder depending on how "Hardcore" or essentially devoted you are. Being one of the first people in the lot every weekend could make you core, hiking jumps in the park or backcountry, or competing in any of the disciplines (boardercross, pipe, slopestyle, etc.) could all make you a "core" snowboarder. The brand theory is pretty one-dimensional and somewhat exclusionary to freestyle snowboarding. Now, I'm a freestyle rider and procurer of all the "core" brands, and I agree that certain brands have no place in snowboarding for many reasons. However, purchasing certain brands does not make you any more or less of a snowboarder; your snowboarding does. The point Russell and the dudes on the Bomb Hole were making was that your "Core Score" should be more measured by the amount of effort, dedication, and skill put towards your riding versus your fashion and gear choices. If you put more effort into your gear and fashion than your riding, it will show, and to me, that's pretty kooky/jerry...IMHO. Similarly, if you can absolutely slay and have great style (style includes tricks and clothes, but is less about brands and just how it looks) and board control, I really couldn't care less about what brands you choose at the end of the day.
Thank you for leaving the most insightful comment I've ever received. I understand there are different definitions of core and making a video like this using the "Hard Core" definition would probably be less entertaining, but it is something that I could talk about in a future video... Brand theory is a very superficial way to look at snowboarding because at the end of the day your snowboarding is always more important than how you look. "Purchasing certain brands does not make you any more or less of a snowboarder; your snowboarding does." TRUE "Your "Core Score" should be more measured by the amount of effort, dedication, and skill put towards your riding versus your fashion and gear choices." True. To elaborate on this point, nothing is kookier than buying over $1,000 worth of snowboard gear and not being able to shred. This video was primarily made for entertainment purposes and maybe to teach some people some fun facts. At the end of the day snowboarding is not that deep and the only reason it exists is because we all think it is fun. Thanks for the comment dawg!
@@DaytonHammel Thanks for the great response. The video was excellent and well-articulated; I just wanted people to see it from another perspective as well. I'd argue snowboarding is pretty deep. It got me through some rough times. When people I thought would be there weren't, my board, the resorts, snow, and snowboard community were and always kept me level-headed and on track (life goals). Snowboarding was my outlet when I gave up my social life and partying to go to graduate school. It's connected me with both my kids to a greater level, and it is somewhat therapeutic. There's nothing more connecting to nature to me than tree runs on a deep pow day at Brighton or in British Columbia. When I'm riding, just for those few hours each day, all the stress of life goes away; I get to enjoy myself, my friends, nature, and a sport I truly love. I grew up skating in the 90s and will be 40 this year. Snowboarding has kept me youthful, active, and in touch with my inner adolescent. It's also become a conduit for travel and bonding for myself, my family, and my closest friends. The actual snowboarding is excellent, but spending time planning trips, talking about the season over the summer at the beach, and traveling to new destinations (for snowboarding trips) are just as, if not more, fun. Snowboarding lets me express myself in a way no other sport or hobby could, and I'd say that's pretty deep, even if we are sliding down the mountain on a piece of wood :)
But if you're unknowingly supporting kook shit, you probably are because your favorite kook influencer said it was clever and new. You can be a decent rider and a kook at the same time. That occurs when you aren't aware of kooks and kooky things. And when that happens, you need to have an apiphiny, and then you need redemption.
How i see it, there is a difference between people that snowboard and people who are snowboarders. People can be kooks that snowboard and there can be kooks who are snowboarders. How i see as being core is being out as many days as you can, understand the culture of snowboarding even back to where it started, be able to go to a ski hill with your homies to progress from, and just overall have fun. People mistake core with brand research or understanding of snowboard technology. You get to that point from being a core snowboarder, but you dont need to be core to understand where that research comes from. The issue is the noncore snowboarders don't have a friend base that is core, so they end up being the target consumer from kook companies when they try to do research on snowboard gear. Then you also end up with bad representation of what snowboarding is with the kook shit like social media, scummy kook companies, and even video games like riders republic. Like I see more and more kooks excited about snowboarding because it means they get the rave club shit raves at resorts. Those people are pure kook, if you highlights is that shit, youre not a snowboarder. If getting more days out mean going to grassroots hill, hiking backcountry, or seshing a street spot, you are a snowboarder. Not talking shit about resort locals either, it's more just about getting out to snowboard as much as you possibly can. The kook companies don't target the core audience, they know they will have more issues targeting core snowboarders because their products are so shitty that it's too much of a gamble when their target audience won't be as abusive. It's like the kid buying a beginner targeted board, it's only designed for them to learn on, be beaten up, and learn what type of snowboarding they want to do.
I definitely agree, that's why I mostly buy my stuff gently used. I even got a pair of oakley flight deck for 80 bucks, later I bought a new clear lens. That's 100 dollars saved, n I could use that for beer or for a new board. 🤙
As a mega-kook with zero gear and absolutely no idea... this was a great video! I hope to one day reach my true calling and join my future mountain brothers.
Hey man, skier here. Just found your channel and find your takes hilarious. So many accurate opinions. I'm certainly a weekend warrior looking forward to the upcoming season! Hope you catch that POW
I like the more laid-back type hand drag tripods. I hate the ones where spin into them. They only look "cool" when you pop a bit off them and ends up being like a weird miller flip.
Hope the back is feeling better. Fell on my ass pretty hard on top of an icy mogul and my lower back was sore as fuck for a month. Wasn't enough to keep me away though. Probably why it took so long to feel better.
He's the goat, I wrote him a message a few years back when I was injured and in recovery and he mailed me some free stickers and left a note saying get better soon. He seems like an awesome dude.
neff should have been labeled. and yes. "That's it That's all" should have been the bulls eye of this theory. I can't tel you how much I love you filling me in on this new 'dope snow' brand I was seeing last season after a few years off season! Hilarious* and exactly what I was thinking/ and much agree on the huck knife graphic chase card credit style bite
You forgot snowboarding instructors. Are we kook? You know what they say: "if you can't, you teach" lol. Yeah, definitely I think I have a foot on the kook side 😂. Ironically, I was super kook when I was young, because I thought that wearing baggy pants with my whole ass completely out, bandanas hanging off my studded belt, and sleeveless tshirts at freezing cold weather made me as core as a Forum 8 lol. But I was young and trying to imitate your idols is cool I guess, just like in any other parcel/hobby. Then I travelled to the Alps and saw people dressed as the average jerry, with helmets when helmets were not cool (yeah, idiotic but it was like that) sending switch 9s on a 18 meters big jump, when I was not spinning in 12 meters jumps, and I remember thinking to myself, "you are fkg ridiculous!" 😂. A humbling and maturing moment I guess. Fun video mate.
Also for ur backpain try working on doing a cold plunge, even if u dont like cold water work ur way down from like 65 degrees down to 50 it helped me out a lot, n ur buddy case wilax says the same thing.
That's a tough one honestly. Like obviously there not core because the money you spend on sports jerseys doesn't go back into snowboarding. But I low-key think some people pull off sports jerseys. U need to be really good to pull them off. That's my opinion at least on Jerseys.
How would you rank Jones snowboards? Brand is pretty new-ish but Jeremy Jones is pretty old school on freeriding... Also, that POW thing feels like a big deal, but it's not core to me, but I'd still say important
@@subkulture420 I bought Jones Mountain twin this winter... coming back after 20+ years off snowboarding... Merely to show the art of the sport for my boy
Jeremy Jones is core and has been around forever. He was also in the forum video I showed with JP Walker. I think supporting a snowboarder owned company is always core, especially with a legend like Mr. Jones. To answer your 2nd question I was saying powder riding and "powder" movies (freeriding, Backcountry movies) are core. If you meant P.O.W as in Protect our Winters, I don't think they are core to snowboarding but they may be important. I don't really know what their money goes too. It seems difficult to run a charity for climate change. Like what are they doing with the money and how can it possibly have a positive change for the climate. It may be good, it would be fun to research.
@DaytonHammel Jones snowboard Jeremy Jones is not the same Jeremy Jones with JP Walker and Forum. I thought it was the first but both are different Jones' 🤣👌👍
Random question: who was the guy in the clip hitting the rails in the suit and tie? I decided to wear the same exact outfit on a bluebird day and people loved it lol I got a lot of compliments and laughs, though by nature its a kooky outfit I still had a lot of fun. Also, great video my man, thanks for putting me on to more snowboard movies, love watching those.
Good video, I hope your back feels better, try not to get hooked on those pills, you’re young for that, ha. Hang in there. I don’t take any pills, living in pain sucks but you can ride, just keep it small and humble, YMMV.❤
Glad you liked the vid. And I know that pain pills are really bad. I was actually then prescribed by a doctor right after I injured my back. I was only on them for about 4 days and then I threw them out. Thank you for your concern though dude. I appreciate it.
Just wanted to protect that Salomon Huck Knife graphic a little bit: it is not that bad when you realize that it mimics graphics used on VHS cassete boxes - that’s where Helvetica and all these gradient lines and circles come from. This particular season is not the best in series for sure.
Did you really compare effort put in for a 30 second clip vs a 2 hour movie requiring hundreds of hours and edits intended to be released to mass audiences? 2021 was the last good year. Even Warpigs got graphics now
That is literally why insta edits aren't core. Yes. Core snowboarding was built on parts, not quick instant clips for mass audiences. And with post 2020 graphics, I have no problem with minimal art, I simply think that the 2022 Salomon huck knife is objectively trash. War pig graphics are fine
Aside from the cringey stuff they might do on social media, people supposedly enjoy the gear they get from Dope and Montec. It seems to be entry level gear, (300 for a jacket) and people can always upgrade later if they decide to do so. I dont get the hate, not everyone can afford to drop more than a grand for full gear or wants to wait to get used or discounted gear at the end of the season. Just comes off pretentious imo, unless theres brands at that price point I dont know about. Even then its all preference in the end, why give a shit what others wear to the park. What am I missing here?
Based. I don't like their marketing. Don't have anything against people that wear dope (obviously). I usually just wear a sweatshirt and my dad's old ski pants. So I know how hard it is to keep snowboarding affordable (I am a broke college student) Also I live in South East Wyoming, probably one of the coldest and windiest place to snowboard in the whole country and most of the time I can get away with 2 long sleeve Ts and a sweatshirt. So the idea that u need to drop 1k on outerwear is stupid. But I think most people think dope is objectively uncool, which is fair.
Completely understandable, the marketign does come off as if the brand is just in it for the money atm, poserlike (like people wearing Thrasher) so I do understand in regards to that. But I feel like it does fill a untapped marketspace of new people to the sport. And yeah their name is definitely stupid lol, but it works, brings in the young people for sure. Regardless I appreciate an actual response and not just hating cause someone had a rebuttal. @@DaytonHammel
idk, im a park rat and wear a DOPE snow jacket. They have a colourway that i havent seen any brand i'd usually wear have. So i picked it up, it's the baby blue steele.
the gifted hater of snowboarding
Everyone's calling me that😂gifted hater is way funnier, and way more entertaining, and much better at hating. I'm an "electric nipple clamps" version of gifted hater for snowboarding😂😂😂
@@DaytonHammel😭🙏
Hell nah this guy is a dumbass
Glad to see you give some respect to the kooks and casuals. Not all of us were lucky enough to live near snow and do this regularly throughout childhood. Personally, I grew up in Louisiana and played SSX Tricky in Middle School (would replay 'Untracked' on repeat for hours) and took a few vacations every few years or so before upending my life to move closer to mountains.
To be fair, to the majority of the population... all snowboarders are Kooks, we're discriminating against ourselves. Someone call the Office of Civil Rights.
I get the brand theory of "Core" snowboarding, but Russell Winfield and the dudes from the Bomb Hole had a better take. Russell explained that Core was originally short for Hardcore, similar to Gnar being short for Gnarly. Russell went on to explain that because snowboarding is so broad, there are many different ways you can be a "Core" snowboarder depending on how "Hardcore" or essentially devoted you are. Being one of the first people in the lot every weekend could make you core, hiking jumps in the park or backcountry, or competing in any of the disciplines (boardercross, pipe, slopestyle, etc.) could all make you a "core" snowboarder. The brand theory is pretty one-dimensional and somewhat exclusionary to freestyle snowboarding. Now, I'm a freestyle rider and procurer of all the "core" brands, and I agree that certain brands have no place in snowboarding for many reasons. However, purchasing certain brands does not make you any more or less of a snowboarder; your snowboarding does. The point Russell and the dudes on the Bomb Hole were making was that your "Core Score" should be more measured by the amount of effort, dedication, and skill put towards your riding versus your fashion and gear choices. If you put more effort into your gear and fashion than your riding, it will show, and to me, that's pretty kooky/jerry...IMHO. Similarly, if you can absolutely slay and have great style (style includes tricks and clothes, but is less about brands and just how it looks) and board control, I really couldn't care less about what brands you choose at the end of the day.
Thank you for leaving the most insightful comment I've ever received. I understand there are different definitions of core and making a video like this using the "Hard Core" definition would probably be less entertaining, but it is something that I could talk about in a future video...
Brand theory is a very superficial way to look at snowboarding because at the end of the day your snowboarding is always more important than how you look. "Purchasing certain brands does not make you any more or less of a snowboarder; your snowboarding does." TRUE
"Your "Core Score" should be more measured by the amount of effort, dedication, and skill put towards your riding versus your fashion and gear choices." True.
To elaborate on this point, nothing is kookier than buying over $1,000 worth of snowboard gear and not being able to shred.
This video was primarily made for entertainment purposes and maybe to teach some people some fun facts. At the end of the day snowboarding is not that deep and the only reason it exists is because we all think it is fun.
Thanks for the comment dawg!
@@DaytonHammel Thanks for the great response. The video was excellent and well-articulated; I just wanted people to see it from another perspective as well. I'd argue snowboarding is pretty deep. It got me through some rough times. When people I thought would be there weren't, my board, the resorts, snow, and snowboard community were and always kept me level-headed and on track (life goals). Snowboarding was my outlet when I gave up my social life and partying to go to graduate school. It's connected me with both my kids to a greater level, and it is somewhat therapeutic. There's nothing more connecting to nature to me than tree runs on a deep pow day at Brighton or in British Columbia. When I'm riding, just for those few hours each day, all the stress of life goes away; I get to enjoy myself, my friends, nature, and a sport I truly love. I grew up skating in the 90s and will be 40 this year. Snowboarding has kept me youthful, active, and in touch with my inner adolescent. It's also become a conduit for travel and bonding for myself, my family, and my closest friends. The actual snowboarding is excellent, but spending time planning trips, talking about the season over the summer at the beach, and traveling to new destinations (for snowboarding trips) are just as, if not more, fun. Snowboarding lets me express myself in a way no other sport or hobby could, and I'd say that's pretty deep, even if we are sliding down the mountain on a piece of wood :)
But if you're unknowingly supporting kook shit, you probably are because your favorite kook influencer said it was clever and new.
You can be a decent rider and a kook at the same time. That occurs when you aren't aware of kooks and kooky things. And when that happens, you need to have an apiphiny, and then you need redemption.
How i see it, there is a difference between people that snowboard and people who are snowboarders. People can be kooks that snowboard and there can be kooks who are snowboarders. How i see as being core is being out as many days as you can, understand the culture of snowboarding even back to where it started, be able to go to a ski hill with your homies to progress from, and just overall have fun. People mistake core with brand research or understanding of snowboard technology. You get to that point from being a core snowboarder, but you dont need to be core to understand where that research comes from. The issue is the noncore snowboarders don't have a friend base that is core, so they end up being the target consumer from kook companies when they try to do research on snowboard gear. Then you also end up with bad representation of what snowboarding is with the kook shit like social media, scummy kook companies, and even video games like riders republic. Like I see more and more kooks excited about snowboarding because it means they get the rave club shit raves at resorts. Those people are pure kook, if you highlights is that shit, youre not a snowboarder. If getting more days out mean going to grassroots hill, hiking backcountry, or seshing a street spot, you are a snowboarder. Not talking shit about resort locals either, it's more just about getting out to snowboard as much as you possibly can. The kook companies don't target the core audience, they know they will have more issues targeting core snowboarders because their products are so shitty that it's too much of a gamble when their target audience won't be as abusive. It's like the kid buying a beginner targeted board, it's only designed for them to learn on, be beaten up, and learn what type of snowboarding they want to do.
Bro for being blind, you snowboard pretty good.
Lol
Amazon belongs on that Meteorite.
Those $30 Zionor goggles are all the rage these days. Amazon hurts core snowboarding.
Agree. Amazon hurts everything
I definitely agree, that's why I mostly buy my stuff gently used. I even got a pair of oakley flight deck for 80 bucks, later I bought a new clear lens. That's 100 dollars saved, n I could use that for beer or for a new board. 🤙
@@orldoming80 bucks for Oakleys is a steal. I buy most of my stuff used too.
Thank u Dayton for helping me confirm i am a massive jerry 💯 i’ve only been snowboarding twice but i’m hoping to go more next season
As a mega-kook with zero gear and absolutely no idea... this was a great video!
I hope to one day reach my true calling and join my future mountain brothers.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Just keep shredding bro, don't worry about "snowboard politics" 😂😂
Snowboard leash is core, helped snowboarders ride on ski resorts
Pretty darn accurate, i must say!
🫡thank u sir
Hey man, skier here. Just found your channel and find your takes hilarious. So many accurate opinions. I'm certainly a weekend warrior looking forward to the upcoming season! Hope you catch that POW
now we need a vid on the intersectionality of core and hesh
I like the more laid-back type hand drag tripods. I hate the ones where spin into them. They only look "cool" when you pop a bit off them and ends up being like a weird miller flip.
Hope the back is feeling better. Fell on my ass pretty hard on top of an icy mogul and my lower back was sore as fuck for a month. Wasn't enough to keep me away though. Probably why it took so long to feel better.
It's been great! I was out for a month but I'm back at it and 100 percent! Hope your back gets better too homie🫡🫡
15:39 shoutout @caseywilax our core vlog king 👑
He's the goat, I wrote him a message a few years back when I was injured and in recovery and he mailed me some free stickers and left a note saying get better soon. He seems like an awesome dude.
I love his "How to improve your snowboarding dramatically" videos.
"Hours on a board. Put in the effort." Best 'tip' I ever got.
neff should have been labeled. and yes. "That's it That's all" should have been the bulls eye of this theory. I can't tel you how much I love you filling me in on this new 'dope snow' brand I was seeing last season after a few years off season! Hilarious* and exactly what I was thinking/ and much agree on the huck knife graphic chase card credit style bite
You forgot snowboarding instructors. Are we kook? You know what they say: "if you can't, you teach" lol. Yeah, definitely I think I have a foot on the kook side 😂.
Ironically, I was super kook when I was young, because I thought that wearing baggy pants with my whole ass completely out, bandanas hanging off my studded belt, and sleeveless tshirts at freezing cold weather made me as core as a Forum 8 lol. But I was young and trying to imitate your idols is cool I guess, just like in any other parcel/hobby.
Then I travelled to the Alps and saw people dressed as the average jerry, with helmets when helmets were not cool (yeah, idiotic but it was like that) sending switch 9s on a 18 meters big jump, when I was not spinning in 12 meters jumps, and I remember thinking to myself, "you are fkg ridiculous!" 😂. A humbling and maturing moment I guess.
Fun video mate.
I'm glad you liked the video. Thank you for the comment man. Snowboarding instructors is a great one that I should have done.
Snowboard instructors for the most part, not kooky. PSIA/AASI though...definitely kooky to the max
Get better soon brother!
well thought out. Long live forum.
Halldor helgason did a pretty dank cab 3 to tripod switch 1 out back jn the day that made it cool
Halldor is the Exception. Do you know what video that tricks from cause I wanna see👀
Also for ur backpain try working on doing a cold plunge, even if u dont like cold water work ur way down from like 65 degrees down to 50 it helped me out a lot, n ur buddy case wilax says the same thing.
dope video! I would put grenade, tech nine, thirtytwo in core also... they were pretty influential in pushing the core scenes look...
Bro, I’m crying
I can’t believe you didn’t do sports jerseys
That's a tough one honestly. Like obviously there not core because the money you spend on sports jerseys doesn't go back into snowboarding. But I low-key think some people pull off sports jerseys. U need to be really good to pull them off. That's my opinion at least on Jerseys.
I feel so vindicated seeing the tripod go straight into the kooky segment. Fuck tripods.
I don’t disagree but peep Scott Steven’s coffin slide to tripod in the spot check at mammoth for an example of a well done tripod
@@glub__blub Yeah fair. Scott Stevens could make anything cool haha
How would you rank Jones snowboards? Brand is pretty new-ish but Jeremy Jones is pretty old school on freeriding... Also, that POW thing feels like a big deal, but it's not core to me, but I'd still say important
Love my 2 Jones boards, quality boards at good prices
@@subkulture420 I bought Jones Mountain twin this winter... coming back after 20+ years off snowboarding... Merely to show the art of the sport for my boy
Jeremy Jones is core and has been around forever. He was also in the forum video I showed with JP Walker. I think supporting a snowboarder owned company is always core, especially with a legend like Mr. Jones.
To answer your 2nd question I was saying powder riding and "powder" movies (freeriding, Backcountry movies) are core. If you meant P.O.W as in Protect our Winters, I don't think they are core to snowboarding but they may be important. I don't really know what their money goes too. It seems difficult to run a charity for climate change. Like what are they doing with the money and how can it possibly have a positive change for the climate. It may be good, it would be fun to research.
@DaytonHammel Jones snowboard Jeremy Jones is not the same Jeremy Jones with JP Walker and Forum. I thought it was the first but both are different Jones' 🤣👌👍
Oh shit no way. Why does every snowboarder have the same exact name.@@Haik86
Random question: who was the guy in the clip hitting the rails in the suit and tie? I decided to wear the same exact outfit on a bluebird day and people loved it lol I got a lot of compliments and laughs, though by nature its a kooky outfit I still had a lot of fun. Also, great video my man, thanks for putting me on to more snowboard movies, love watching those.
That business suit guy was me😂 that was an edit I made a few years ago. The suit is kooky core😂
Also glad you like the videos dude. Means so much!
Very important info from my algorithm as a Floridian,, sick vid tho dude
Glad you enjoyed the vid man. Can't believe this video is reaching Floridians😂
Good video, I hope your back feels better, try not to get hooked on those pills, you’re young for that, ha. Hang in there. I don’t take any pills, living in pain sucks but you can ride, just keep it small and humble, YMMV.❤
Glad you liked the vid. And I know that pain pills are really bad. I was actually then prescribed by a doctor right after I injured my back. I was only on them for about 4 days and then I threw them out. Thank you for your concern though dude. I appreciate it.
Try an electric heating pad for your back. I found that to be one of the best things against back pain.
Not core!
What about carving? It was core in the 90's for sure but now?
I think so. Carving is fundamental to snowboarding. Also Tyler Chorlton is a modern carving prodigy.
Just wanted to protect that Salomon Huck Knife graphic a little bit: it is not that bad when you realize that it mimics graphics used on VHS cassete boxes - that’s where Helvetica and all these gradient lines and circles come from. This particular season is not the best in series for sure.
Dayton Hammel self actualized?!?!
😂😂boredom, back pain, and prescriptions leads me to weird places😂😂
not mentioning nitro snowboards is crazy
If I mentioned every "core" company this video would be boring. Nitro is cool, sorry for not mentioning them
bro is that google slides?🔥
GOOGLE DRAWINGS🗣️🗣️
Do you hate the 2024 huck knife as much))))): just bought one two weeks ago lol
@@Jorthor31 I think the graphic is a little better than the 2022, has more colors but still not a huge fan. The board itself is really good though.
All I wanted was a gifted hater of snowboarding and I found one
hands touch it doesnt count unless its a hand plant!
are tame dogs core?
I think so. Some people don't like when u do them out of rails at a rail jam though.
where is sangwich and horse snowboards on your graph?
I really love snowboarding and I try to go whenever I can but I just don't really care about something being core or not
An enlightened snowboarder😂
interesting topic 👍
Thank you🫡
Did you really compare effort put in for a 30 second clip vs a 2 hour movie requiring hundreds of hours and edits intended to be released to mass audiences?
2021 was the last good year. Even Warpigs got graphics now
That is literally why insta edits aren't core. Yes.
Core snowboarding was built on parts, not quick instant clips for mass audiences.
And with post 2020 graphics, I have no problem with minimal art, I simply think that the 2022 Salomon huck knife is objectively trash. War pig graphics are fine
kinda kooky to judge a board by its graphics, huck knife / huck knife pro is my go to park board, but again i dont judge a board by its "artwork"
I'm glad you enjoy the AT&T snowboard
@@DaytonHammel lol I can never unsee this now.
its a great board, but designwise salomon did way better... the old huckknife was at least homage to the iconic old salomon cap construction ski...
Yo knock off atleast half your speed when you go back for that dfd. You had it the speed just made it buck too hard
exactly what I was thinking, i want to go back this year. but towards the end of the season
Salomon huck knife graphics I really cant stand
@@javirides8054 good board, ugly ass graphic
Those clips from Dope Snow... 🤮
Tru😂😂
i am sub nr. 777
Thank you sir
Poggers
Aside from the cringey stuff they might do on social media, people supposedly enjoy the gear they get from Dope and Montec. It seems to be entry level gear, (300 for a jacket) and people can always upgrade later if they decide to do so. I dont get the hate, not everyone can afford to drop more than a grand for full gear or wants to wait to get used or discounted gear at the end of the season. Just comes off pretentious imo, unless theres brands at that price point I dont know about. Even then its all preference in the end, why give a shit what others wear to the park. What am I missing here?
Based. I don't like their marketing. Don't have anything against people that wear dope (obviously).
I usually just wear a sweatshirt and my dad's old ski pants. So I know how hard it is to keep snowboarding affordable (I am a broke college student) Also I live in South East Wyoming, probably one of the coldest and windiest place to snowboard in the whole country and most of the time I can get away with 2 long sleeve Ts and a sweatshirt. So the idea that u need to drop 1k on outerwear is stupid.
But I think most people think dope is objectively uncool, which is fair.
Thanks for the comment! Valid point.
Completely understandable, the marketign does come off as if the brand is just in it for the money atm, poserlike (like people wearing Thrasher) so I do understand in regards to that. But I feel like it does fill a untapped marketspace of new people to the sport. And yeah their name is definitely stupid lol, but it works, brings in the young people for sure. Regardless I appreciate an actual response and not just hating cause someone had a rebuttal. @@DaytonHammel
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idk, im a park rat and wear a DOPE snow jacket. They have a colourway that i havent seen any brand i'd usually wear have. So i picked it up, it's the baby blue steele.
not core
@@niqie1996 So? lol What are you going to do. Take off my jacket in the park?
@@Stuzaay idc. You're the one who looks kooky
@@niqie1996 lol idc man it's just a jacket.
DOPE clothes look legit still, f tha haters. I rock it and I'm in the park.
If kooks are not kooky then how can there be kooky brands 🤔