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Thankfully, Ryan Reynold's Deadpool movies were more character-driven and made a boatload of moolah. Hopefully, Deadpool 3 will not suffer the same fate as Wolverine: X-men origins.
That this is the 3rd writers strike in... like 20 years... I'm going to say that no, Hollywood hasn't figured out that they need to treat writers like people.
There have been major advancements in how tv and movies are down in that timeframe so that is a major factor. This time it's streaming monies , before it was DVDs and such (among other items). I think TV monies was the last one. There Re rumblings of the Screen Actor's Guild are about to strike as well.
From working on the marketing side of film, they could use AI to bring down the budget of marketing. Or they can use AI to have less studio execs. I mean, you got a bunch of people giving somewhat contradictory commands. AI should be used to take care of the tedious uncreative tasks to free up the artists.
I was a child during the last writer's strike and once you mentioned Transformers 2 it occurred to me that a lot of the terrible movies I grew up with probably were impacted by that strike and I just didn't know
Transformers 2 was bad because it was bad, they never improved after the strike, they just blame on it because it was easier than to admit incompetency lol
If I had a nickel for every time a Wolverine/Deadpool movie was forced through production during a writer’s strike, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice
But isn't Ryan Reynolds was the main writer for both Deadpool movies (with some co-writers) and writing Deadpool 3 ? So why is everybody screaming on top of their lungs that this movie is doomed ?
My clearest "writers' strike" memory happened around CN Real, where Cartoon Network tried and failed to drag viewers back in with reality TV - it's amazing but not surprising that the only four things that came out alive with that era were Andrew W.K., Tower Prep and Unnatural History and Total Drama Island where the other shows on that block just flat out died. Also, I remember Wizards of Waverly Place suffering big time too. I was around 12 during the last strike and somewhat oblivious. Now I'm 29 and *pissed off* about the sheer greed of CEOs in regards to art and writing.
So that Andrew W.K. guy is from Cartoon Network or something? I just remember his E3 performance for that garbage game Rage 2 going over like a lead balloon with the crowd
@@nugget3687 Yeah, it's the reason why shows like Billy and Mandy, Codename: KND, Foster's, Camp Lazlo, Teen Titans, etc. ended too soon or without a proper ending.
There are a couple of big advantages they have this time though. 1) Most important, since Deadpool wears a mask, the dialogue that is used in the final cut could be done by Reynolds doing a bunch of improv as ADR once the strike has finished. 2) Reynolds was heavily involved in writing the script, so I’m sure they’ll have gone through so many drafts to get it right 3) They have had two Deadpool movies before this which were great, so they should have a pretty good sense of tone when writing 3.
For me, my Lest We Forget casualty of that writer's strike was HEROES. Excellent set-up, then contractually obligated to scrap all existing story ideas and non-union writers were brought in to try and kintsugi the show back together but they didn't use any gold. Edit: And you drop a Drew Gooden vid at 10:35 describing this very thing. _hat tip_
The other casualty of the 07 writers strike was the great vampire series moonlight that featured Alex O'Loughlin what made it good was it didn’t used the terrible twilight formula and did it more in the vain of the Buffy spinoff angel and it got cancelled after it first season probably due to not getting back the viewers after it came back
@@kevin10001 I am a bit embarrassed to admit that I absolutely loved Moonlight when it was on. I do think the premise had a lot of potential… but mostly I loved it because I was a lonely single girl who dreamed of falling in love with a cute vampire detective. I was very sad when it was cancelled - never really thought before about how the writers strike might have impacted it
Big, BIG difference in that Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman are very passionate and directly involved in the production, so it has a massive leg up over Origins.
I'm no Deadpool mega fan, but i do feel the line works however... The delivery is kinda lame. What if "Ok people are dead!😬" Was "Ok! People are DEAD 😅"
The difference with wolverine and Deadpool movies is that Ryan Reynolds is writing most of the movie. The script has been In works for years. With the writers strike it may not impact this movie at all, but Deadpool 3 would be similar to Deadpool 2 in quality but with more cg.
Right im confused why this is a thing. I know they're technically not allowed to make edits to the script...but its not really policed and like you said it was done being written before the strike even happened.
That actually frightens me even more than the writers' strike. Not saying that Ryan can't write a movie, or even a good one at that, but maybe he just shouldn't. After the first Deadpool movie, it seems like Hollywood turned Ryan into a bigger genius than he is. Ever since then, Ryan has made much more movies, and most, if not all, were... bad. Sure, he probably doesn't choose the movies and his agent sucks at it, but you can tell how all his characters became just Deadpool, which is not a good thing. Deadpool is good for Deadpool, he's a one and only, you can't throw it everywhere else, and you can tell Ryan is just... that. He's always been and he'll always be, which is ok, but overusing that for everything just seems like he doesn't have the props to write a movie, let alone a good one. Not to mention, he's kind of a diva when it comes to who's in charge. 'Deadpool 2' suffered quite a bit from that, which is why the first one is still the best. I really hope 'Deadpool 3' doesn't go through what 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' did, specially with how much is at stake now with Hugh, MCU and X-Men on the line.
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I've always wanted to be a writer. It's literally the only job I've ever wanted and when I speak to or listen to staffed writers talking candidly about their situations it's often extremely depressing or at least pretty discouraging. It's especially frustrating because the general public has no clue what's going on and there's zero pressure for the studio execs to actually change anything until everyone goes on strike and even then nothing substantially changes while the only thing the public takes away from it is "wow that xmen movie sucked why are people saying writers should be paid more?" It's not like it's even their fault for not knowing because speaking about the conditions (declining pay, obtuse contracts, few benefits) outside of a general strike makes you, the person that can barely afford to live in the state you work in, look terrible to the execs with literal yachts and mansions. You don't move across the country to get into writing for the money, you do it because you're passionate and that's what they take advantage of
"you're passionate and that's what they take advantage of" sounds like video game developers as well. Honestly, it feels like the big execs in any field never care about the people actually doing the work.
I had a gig writing movie reviews when this movie came out. Superhero movies were one of my specialties because this was before pop culture was completely taken over by Comic-Con attendees (I say as I wait for my badge in the mail) and I was the only person on staff who'd ever read a comic book. (I was also one of only two women on staff, which many people found unsettling, but anyway.) I remember watching this movie and being completely baffled by its utter awfulness, especially considering the comics they'd clearly started with. Afterward, I emailed the editor something that started with, "I don't know what I just saw, but I want my two hours back." I didn't even have the vocabulary to explain how far off the rails that movie was. It was like someone had stuck a Rob Liefeld sketchbook inside the dust jacket of a Shakespearean tragedy and called ot a day. Thank you for finally explaining some of my trauma. 😂
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_G.I. Joe The Rise of Cobra_ is the perfect G.I. Joe adaptation because it captures what an story improvised by a bunch of kids when given access to a pile of action figures and toy vehicles would be like... still, I wish they just delay _Deadpool 3_ untill the strike is over, and prefferently is over because the writers got what they demanded
The issue is the studio execs don't know whose actually responsible for making them all of their money. It's like running a bakery and thinking you'll be fine if all the bakers quit, THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER Hollywood. Whose gonna write your movies if all the writers quit?!
@@Timewarpiaman It was joke on the fact that most important guys in modern blockbusters its CGI departments I mean Transformer 2 made like 800M at box office + like 1 bill on merch.
I actually enjoyed X-Men Origins: Wolverine. So much so that I own a DVD copy of it. Sometimes I’ll take it out of the case and watch it every once in a while.
@christopherprice9520 I know it's been a minute since this comment but it's in my Top 3 favorite video games, maybe cause of nostalgia factor cause I played it so much as a kid but I definitely recommend it
I would actually argue that most of the terribleness of the Bayverse era Transformers movies was the result of the writers strike. The first movie wasn't terrible. It was actually pretty fun. There was clearly to much Michael Bay in it; but it was a decent movie, overall. The strike left Michael Bay with a lot more free reign over making changes once shooting was started. The extreme anger and violence version of Optimus Prime emerged here, and a lot more of the weirder Bay ideas filled this movie. Bay pretty much got free reign afterwards to do what he wanted in the future, Revenge of The Fallen became the blueprint. So a writers strike can hurt things more than just a bad movie, and more than ending a planned series; it could instead set terrible precedence for movies in the series going forward.
I did wonder why there was such a sudden quality drop after the first movie. It went from being written for 13 year olds to something written by 13 year olds.
At least Michael Bay had the decency to admit in 2011 that the revenge of the fallen script was shit, Because the script had been written in under three weeks right before the 07 writer strike started. At this point we pretty much can see the damage the film did because we're never going to get figures based on say skids or mud flap because of how they were depicted in that movie.
not really. "could" ≠ "will", and it's pretty self-evident that it was using D&W as a jumping off point to discuss how not meeting the demands of the unions beforehand _will_ negatively impact the production of new films.
As a human American who is passingly familiar with the sport "Baseball," I am left thoroughly entertained by your string of baseball-related wordplay. Well done. I shall tell my comrades about you.
Man, we're in a similar *league* when it comes to baseball references. You had me in *stitches* with the constant jokes on the *fly* that could *pop* into your head, and the joke didn't turn *foul* before you finished talking about the *strike.* You have a lot on your *plate* but you really stepped *up to bat* for that joke. And to that I say: *touchdown!*
I read somewhere that after Wolverine, the four sequel films were, Magneto (as mentioned, which I think then turned into First Class) Storm, Gambit, and Emma Frost. This is why Gambit and Emma appeared in Origins:Wolverine (and Storm was in once scene that then got deleted) obviously these didn't come to fruition
I guess Magneto's origin was saved for 'X-Men - First Class' and Storm's was saved for 'X-Men - Apocalypse'. Gambit's was completely scrapped as we know he was gonna have a whole movie and Emma Frost got turned into a side piece in 'X-Men - First Class'.
The upside is that for every scene where Ryan is masked, if a joke doesn't land they can go back and loop it with new dialogue after the writer's strike ends. Not so much other characters' lines though, unless we want to get into Henry Cavill CGI mustache territory.
Personally, I always thought that the idea of removing Deadpool's mouth was a great in-iniverse explanation for why whould this character will be even more talkative in the future films, cause once he was robbed of this ability he likes so much he'll gonna double down on that.
Yeah, basically anyone that had no idea who Deadpool was (AKA 90% of audiences) thought that, and it actually made sense in the movie, it really did make a point about the character in the story. Out of all bad choices in that movie, I'd say it was the least of them.
except they did stop during the strikes. ryan reynolds has talked about how the weather conditions were different from when they originally were filming (mainly there being snow).
Counterpoint, X-men origins wolverine was one of the funniest movies I've ever seen (whether intentional or not) so I can except getting something that's so bad it's good over something mediocre.
No. Now the 1994 Street Fighter movie. *THAT* is a true movie that is so bad, it's good. Same goes for The Meteor Man and the 1994 Flintstones movie. X-Men Origins: Wolverine is an abomination.
Deadpool having a mask should help because the strike will presumably be over by the end of post-production and they can just dub in some lines when he has the mask on.
What's the production schedule though? On June 30th, the SAG and DGA contracts will be up, and there's a good chance actors and/or directors will strike as well. If Deadpool 3 isn't done filming by then, it will be forced to go on hiatus until (presumably) all the strikes end. Then, Ryan Reynolds will be allowed to say, "So everything we just did is unusable. Here's the new script." And they can hopefully fix it in reshoots. Unless there's so stupid as to not listen to the writers who are currently striking.
90% of this movie looks to be cameos of characters from movies most fans hated. I hope he yells “CHIMICHANGAS!!!” That’s hilarious and will never, EVER get old and hackneyed.
I’ve watched you for a while now but randomly I’ve just been binging your more recent content over and over again at work for a few weeks now, and I’m so happy to add another video to that list.
X-Men Wolverine is something I liked but only one scene. The old woman and man dying, I just cried aloud. Deadpool mouthless is bizarre wow So we can’t get improv some lines are better just coming out like that a little bit sad now, but hey if the only way to learn to the hard way is to repeating history well then….
The elephant in the room nobody mentions is that most Hollywood writers are OF COURSE writing at home during the strike, then will miraculously have the most productive 24 hours of their lives as soon as the strike ends. And I'm perfectly okay with that.
Bro this video was 8 months ago. I’m sure he’ll make a positive video about the trailer soon. But 8 months ago this movie seemed like it was gonna be bad
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I remember the first time I watched X-Men Origins: Wolverine it was the leaked version on a burned DVD that my brother's friend let us borrow. It was so bad that I turned it off about half way through.
There's a famous Deapool comic where he quits a story right in the middle and starts walking home. But the story doesn't end. It just keeps following him because it has to fill the page count. The comic ends with Wade ignoring tons of plot hooks and exciting stuff happening in the background to explain/complain to the reader about how he knows his whole universe only exists for our entertainment but that it's a hellscape *to actually live in.* I fully expect the "studio notes" to simply start warping reality mid-movie until Wade gets fed up and literally finishes writing the movie himself.
As an Australian your accent was an absolutely perfect and on point Territorian accent. The only difference is in the Northern Territory at all times in the background you hear a consistent "BEERS! BEERS! BEERS"
Also I love how much Duke gets hyped up at the beginning of GI Joe 1 only to get his a** handed to him physically and/or mentally in every other scene. It has a Big Trouble in Little China style way of having the lead's sidekick kick more a** and be more important to the plot then the lead which I love.
There’s also always the chance that the strike ends soon (with the writers winning) and then Deadpool 3 can still be worked on while filming. Or things can be fixed in reshoots.
The nines look like it would scare the shit out of me actually. Shit like that, where something small and kinda silly is SUPER off and wrong, scares me man
I feel like when Deadpool 3 comes out on streaming and DVD (and hopefully the writers strike is over at that time) they go back and over dub new dialogue for Deadpool where he comments on the fact that there was a writers strike while the movie he's in was being shot.
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are you sure its free? I only see paid use options
but who watches the watchmen? The people that make the app are biased in their labeling of which is "factual" and not
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Thankfully, Ryan Reynold's Deadpool movies were more character-driven and made a boatload of moolah.
Hopefully, Deadpool 3 will not suffer the same fate as Wolverine: X-men origins.
That this is the 3rd writers strike in... like 20 years... I'm going to say that no, Hollywood hasn't figured out that they need to treat writers like people.
20 years and it feels like the writing has only gotten worse.
Did they rewrite antman 14 times to stick it to the higher ups or what?
You know there are many other fields that have way more than 3 strikes in 20 years?
I mean studio execs still think they know better than everyone else.
You paid for a director you paid for a writer let them do their job
There have been major advancements in how tv and movies are down in that timeframe so that is a major factor. This time it's streaming monies , before it was DVDs and such (among other items). I think TV monies was the last one. There Re rumblings of the Screen Actor's Guild are about to strike as well.
From working on the marketing side of film, they could use AI to bring down the budget of marketing. Or they can use AI to have less studio execs. I mean, you got a bunch of people giving somewhat contradictory commands. AI should be used to take care of the tedious uncreative tasks to free up the artists.
I was a child during the last writer's strike and once you mentioned Transformers 2 it occurred to me that a lot of the terrible movies I grew up with probably were impacted by that strike and I just didn't know
Ya' think?!
CN Real was a thing because of the writers' strike as well
Transformers 2 was bad because it was bad, they never improved after the strike, they just blame on it because it was easier than to admit incompetency lol
@@BigAmericanGirlFan Wizards of Waverly Place got impacted too, they had to pile on more wizard shit as the series went on.
Same lol
I could have made fun of Green Lantern instead of The Nines, but that joke is so easy it's bush-league ⚾
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His name is Mint Mobile
@@mfmageiwatchKeep Whining Righty lol
@@risottopose9970 you spelled winning wrong
It would have been a bunt. You opted for the double.
If I had a nickel for every time a Wolverine/Deadpool movie was forced through production during a writer’s strike, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice
Dooooooooomed!
It's weird how much legitimate use that quote gets these days.
But isn't Ryan Reynolds was the main writer for both Deadpool movies (with some co-writers) and writing Deadpool 3 ? So why is everybody screaming on top of their lungs that this movie is doomed ?
@@bloodangel13 he’s apart of the writers guild, so he’s actually not allowed to write the script
Well. The actors strike avoided to have most of the movie shot during the writers strike.
My clearest "writers' strike" memory happened around CN Real, where Cartoon Network tried and failed to drag viewers back in with reality TV - it's amazing but not surprising that the only four things that came out alive with that era were Andrew W.K., Tower Prep and Unnatural History and Total Drama Island where the other shows on that block just flat out died.
Also, I remember Wizards of Waverly Place suffering big time too.
I was around 12 during the last strike and somewhat oblivious. Now I'm 29 and *pissed off* about the sheer greed of CEOs in regards to art and writing.
Wait, the dreaded live action Era of cartoon network was birthed due to a writers strike?
Well that explains everything lol
Holy shit that was because of the writers strike?
I mean it makes sense in hindsight.
The late 2000s were a dark time for television
So that Andrew W.K. guy is from Cartoon Network or something? I just remember his E3 performance for that garbage game Rage 2 going over like a lead balloon with the crowd
@@nugget3687 Yeah, it's the reason why shows like Billy and Mandy, Codename: KND, Foster's, Camp Lazlo, Teen Titans, etc. ended too soon or without a proper ending.
There are a couple of big advantages they have this time though.
1) Most important, since Deadpool wears a mask, the dialogue that is used in the final cut could be done by Reynolds doing a bunch of improv as ADR once the strike has finished.
2) Reynolds was heavily involved in writing the script, so I’m sure they’ll have gone through so many drafts to get it right
3) They have had two Deadpool movies before this which were great, so they should have a pretty good sense of tone when writing 3.
If they can make it fit with the body language, sure.
The third films of comic book trilogies are almost universally the worst.
@BizznessBox buddy if u feel that way why did u click on the video?
And the actors strike.
For me, my Lest We Forget casualty of that writer's strike was HEROES. Excellent set-up, then contractually obligated to scrap all existing story ideas and non-union writers were brought in to try and kintsugi the show back together but they didn't use any gold.
Edit: And you drop a Drew Gooden vid at 10:35 describing this very thing. _hat tip_
That kintsugi reference is the best gat dam figure of speech I have read in a long time
Part of the reason reality TV became so prevalent was the writers' strike, wasn't it?
The other casualty of the 07 writers strike was the great vampire series moonlight that featured Alex O'Loughlin what made it good was it didn’t used the terrible twilight formula and did it more in the vain of the Buffy spinoff angel and it got cancelled after it first season probably due to not getting back the viewers after it came back
@@kevin10001 I am a bit embarrassed to admit that I absolutely loved Moonlight when it was on. I do think the premise had a lot of potential… but mostly I loved it because I was a lonely single girl who dreamed of falling in love with a cute vampire detective. I was very sad when it was cancelled - never really thought before about how the writers strike might have impacted it
Big, BIG difference in that Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman are very passionate and directly involved in the production, so it has a massive leg up over Origins.
Not to mention Hugh has shown support for the strike, idk about Ryan but he would too tbh
I’m sure they were passionate about Origins as well?
@@diablojones I’m pretty sure neither of them had as much leverage over a project as now though.
to be completely honest i actually kinda like the "okay....the people are dead" line. it works for deadpool in a way
Ryan was good as Wade Wilson in the movie.
Absolutely it’s a perfect deadpool line
I'm no Deadpool mega fan, but i do feel the line works however... The delivery is kinda lame. What if
"Ok people are dead!😬" Was
"Ok! People are DEAD 😅"
Yeah I am not sure why he honed in on that line, it was definitely a Deadpool thing to say.
"Jesus, do you ever shut up?"
"No, I mean, not when I'm awake."
The difference with wolverine and Deadpool movies is that Ryan Reynolds is writing most of the movie. The script has been In works for years. With the writers strike it may not impact this movie at all, but Deadpool 3 would be similar to Deadpool 2 in quality but with more cg.
Right im confused why this is a thing. I know they're technically not allowed to make edits to the script...but its not really policed and like you said it was done being written before the strike even happened.
That actually frightens me even more than the writers' strike. Not saying that Ryan can't write a movie, or even a good one at that, but maybe he just shouldn't.
After the first Deadpool movie, it seems like Hollywood turned Ryan into a bigger genius than he is. Ever since then, Ryan has made much more movies, and most, if not all, were... bad. Sure, he probably doesn't choose the movies and his agent sucks at it, but you can tell how all his characters became just Deadpool, which is not a good thing.
Deadpool is good for Deadpool, he's a one and only, you can't throw it everywhere else, and you can tell Ryan is just... that. He's always been and he'll always be, which is ok, but overusing that for everything just seems like he doesn't have the props to write a movie, let alone a good one. Not to mention, he's kind of a diva when it comes to who's in charge. 'Deadpool 2' suffered quite a bit from that, which is why the first one is still the best.
I really hope 'Deadpool 3' doesn't go through what 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' did, specially with how much is at stake now with Hugh, MCU and X-Men on the line.
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Since Deadpool is in a mask most of the time, they probably assume the after the strike is over they can add quips in post.
Depends on how long the strike goes I guess.
I've always wanted to be a writer. It's literally the only job I've ever wanted and when I speak to or listen to staffed writers talking candidly about their situations it's often extremely depressing or at least pretty discouraging. It's especially frustrating because the general public has no clue what's going on and there's zero pressure for the studio execs to actually change anything until everyone goes on strike and even then nothing substantially changes while the only thing the public takes away from it is "wow that xmen movie sucked why are people saying writers should be paid more?" It's not like it's even their fault for not knowing because speaking about the conditions (declining pay, obtuse contracts, few benefits) outside of a general strike makes you, the person that can barely afford to live in the state you work in, look terrible to the execs with literal yachts and mansions.
You don't move across the country to get into writing for the money, you do it because you're passionate and that's what they take advantage of
Eh you coukd always be a fanfic writer even if that not how you would want it
@@jadenbryant9283 lmao that's like telling an architecture student they can always just play minecraft
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Nah, Minecraft players can earn way more than an architect and definitely more than a writer.
@@beansfebreeze sorry I was just trying to be honest and blunt about it my apologies
"you're passionate and that's what they take advantage of" sounds like video game developers as well. Honestly, it feels like the big execs in any field never care about the people actually doing the work.
That line about them sewing Deadpool's mouth to not have to write him lines makes so much sense
I had a gig writing movie reviews when this movie came out. Superhero movies were one of my specialties because this was before pop culture was completely taken over by Comic-Con attendees (I say as I wait for my badge in the mail) and I was the only person on staff who'd ever read a comic book. (I was also one of only two women on staff, which many people found unsettling, but anyway.)
I remember watching this movie and being completely baffled by its utter awfulness, especially considering the comics they'd clearly started with. Afterward, I emailed the editor something that started with, "I don't know what I just saw, but I want my two hours back." I didn't even have the vocabulary to explain how far off the rails that movie was. It was like someone had stuck a Rob Liefeld sketchbook inside the dust jacket of a Shakespearean tragedy and called ot a day.
Thank you for finally explaining some of my trauma. 😂
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Disappointed Scott didn't end the video with "Okay... the video's done." Ah well, no one's perfect.
_G.I. Joe The Rise of Cobra_ is the perfect G.I. Joe adaptation because it captures what an story improvised by a bunch of kids when given access to a pile of action figures and toy vehicles would be like... still, I wish they just delay _Deadpool 3_ untill the strike is over, and prefferently is over because the writers got what they demanded
The issue is the studio execs don't know whose actually responsible for making them all of their money. It's like running a bakery and thinking you'll be fine if all the bakers quit, THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER Hollywood. Whose gonna write your movies if all the writers quit?!
But CGI departments is not on strike
@@nikeneon3188 and what? Have them write the movies? Not anyone can write a movie also the SFX guys are trying to form a union so they can strike.
@@Timewarpiaman It was joke on the fact that most important guys in modern blockbusters its CGI departments I mean Transformer 2 made like 800M at box office + like 1 bill on merch.
@@nikeneon3188 Ah sorry didn't get that. Also kinda sucks the CGI/SFX guys don't have a union considering how important they are.
I actually enjoyed X-Men Origins: Wolverine. So much so that I own a DVD copy of it. Sometimes I’ll take it out of the case and watch it every once in a while.
Same! It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't that bad either.
It was a fun action movie. But it failed to be anything more than that.
@@darrenmacqueen9884, do you by any chance know how the video game of the movie was?
@Christopher Price I own it. It was really fun. Story still sucked though.
@christopherprice9520 I know it's been a minute since this comment but it's in my Top 3 favorite video games, maybe cause of nostalgia factor cause I played it so much as a kid but I definitely recommend it
one of my friends watch origins on a plane with no audio and then watched it with me, he said it was the same experience
I would actually argue that most of the terribleness of the Bayverse era Transformers movies was the result of the writers strike. The first movie wasn't terrible. It was actually pretty fun. There was clearly to much Michael Bay in it; but it was a decent movie, overall. The strike left Michael Bay with a lot more free reign over making changes once shooting was started. The extreme anger and violence version of Optimus Prime emerged here, and a lot more of the weirder Bay ideas filled this movie. Bay pretty much got free reign afterwards to do what he wanted in the future, Revenge of The Fallen became the blueprint.
So a writers strike can hurt things more than just a bad movie, and more than ending a planned series; it could instead set terrible precedence for movies in the series going forward.
That's a good point. I did enjoy the first movie. But I didn't enjoy any of the movies after.
I did wonder why there was such a sudden quality drop after the first movie. It went from being written for 13 year olds to something written by 13 year olds.
At least Michael Bay had the decency to admit in 2011 that the revenge of the fallen script was shit, Because the script had been written in under three weeks right before the 07 writer strike started. At this point we pretty much can see the damage the film did because we're never going to get figures based on say skids or mud flap because of how they were depicted in that movie.
The 2nd movie was way better than the first
@@boscotheman82. It wasn’t, but the first movie is pretty bad.
The greatest fault of the Wolverine movie is robbing us of a Gambit origin movie
As of August 12, 2024.
Deadpool and Wolverine broke 1 billion dollars.
This video aged poorly.
Thank god it did
not really. "could" ≠ "will", and it's pretty self-evident that it was using D&W as a jumping off point to discuss how not meeting the demands of the unions beforehand _will_ negatively impact the production of new films.
Who's here after the release of deadpool and wolverine
Update!
Thank God they halted production cause of the ACTOR strike. Yay! I really want this movie to be good!
The reason Ryan Reynolds isn’t allowed to improv is because he’s an official writer on the movie and any improv would be considered a rewrite
Scripts get rewritten on set during filming all the time.
As a human American who is passingly familiar with the sport "Baseball," I am left thoroughly entertained by your string of baseball-related wordplay. Well done. I shall tell my comrades about you.
Anybody here after deadpool and wolverine hit a Billion?
Yep...so much for this guy's predictions.
I searched "Deadpool and Wolverine will flop" on yt 😂
Man, we're in a similar *league* when it comes to baseball references. You had me in *stitches* with the constant jokes on the *fly* that could *pop* into your head, and the joke didn't turn *foul* before you finished talking about the *strike.* You have a lot on your *plate* but you really stepped *up to bat* for that joke. And to that I say: *touchdown!*
September 2024:
"Deadpool & Wolverine" made over $600 million domestically and nearly $700 million overseas but $1.2 billion worldwide.
The shirt didn't need to be unbuttoned and we are thankful for it.
Scott out here doing GI Joe: Rise of Cobra discourse.
I suspect GI Joe Rise of Cobra used an old unrelated screenplay that they repurposed for the movie.
It's so ridiculously inaccurate to the source that it must be
When I was a little lad and watched this movie in low quality on TV Links, I didn't even realize that was Deadpool.
I liked the Nines.
I read somewhere that after Wolverine, the four sequel films were, Magneto (as mentioned, which I think then turned into First Class) Storm, Gambit, and Emma Frost. This is why Gambit and Emma appeared in Origins:Wolverine (and Storm was in once scene that then got deleted) obviously these didn't come to fruition
I guess Magneto's origin was saved for 'X-Men - First Class' and Storm's was saved for 'X-Men - Apocalypse'. Gambit's was completely scrapped as we know he was gonna have a whole movie and Emma Frost got turned into a side piece in 'X-Men - First Class'.
will return to this video after a week or so
your recurring gag with baseball jokes was a really good... RUNNER!
I don't know how are why but those baseball puns totally killed
The upside is that for every scene where Ryan is masked, if a joke doesn't land they can go back and loop it with new dialogue after the writer's strike ends. Not so much other characters' lines though, unless we want to get into Henry Cavill CGI mustache territory.
Aged like milk
Not Anymore Deadpool 3 is actually a Smash hit.
Personally, I always thought that the idea of removing Deadpool's mouth was a great in-iniverse explanation for why whould this character will be even more talkative in the future films, cause once he was robbed of this ability he likes so much he'll gonna double down on that.
Yeah, basically anyone that had no idea who Deadpool was (AKA 90% of audiences) thought that, and it actually made sense in the movie, it really did make a point about the character in the story. Out of all bad choices in that movie, I'd say it was the least of them.
except they did stop during the strikes. ryan reynolds has talked about how the weather conditions were different from when they originally were filming (mainly there being snow).
*on Deadpool 3
I am impressed ryan reynolds was able to improvise so well. Really shows his level of acting, even over 10 years ago.
Oh please most people weren't even Deadpool fans at that time. Wolverine origins was decent just that boxing scene sucked n what they did to desdpool
Scott- Do you remember X-MEN origins: Wolverine?
Me- Why do you think I drink?
Counterpoint, X-men origins wolverine was one of the funniest movies I've ever seen (whether intentional or not) so I can except getting something that's so bad it's good over something mediocre.
No. Now the 1994 Street Fighter movie. *THAT* is a true movie that is so bad, it's good. Same goes for The Meteor Man and the 1994 Flintstones movie. X-Men Origins: Wolverine is an abomination.
@@xgray2012 idk man I was laughing my ass off the whole time.
there is a difference between laughing AT a movie, and laughing WITH a movie.
x-men origins is the former.
@@druidOcelot i agree
Deadpool having a mask should help because the strike will presumably be over by the end of post-production and they can just dub in some lines when he has the mask on.
And this move does seem like it has been in the works for the awhile so maybe they already locked a final script before then
What's the production schedule though? On June 30th, the SAG and DGA contracts will be up, and there's a good chance actors and/or directors will strike as well. If Deadpool 3 isn't done filming by then, it will be forced to go on hiatus until (presumably) all the strikes end.
Then, Ryan Reynolds will be allowed to say, "So everything we just did is unusable. Here's the new script." And they can hopefully fix it in reshoots. Unless there's so stupid as to not listen to the writers who are currently striking.
This aged like milk on a summers day
I am not allowed to die until a stand alone Gambit movie exists
You're going to be inmortal at this rate.
That script was from the 07 strike? That explains… a lot
Nando already wrote the plot for Deadpool 3, so we should be good.
The throwing curveballs delivery killed me that might have been the funniest bit I’ve seen anywhere in a long time for some reason 😂
After the trailer i can honestly say this video aged so well
Took me a second to realize this was filmed before the SAG-AFTRA strike forced this movie to halt production entirely.
Australian here - your Hugh Jackman accent was spot on 😅
My buddy Bruce sounds exactly like that. And weirdly, so does his mum.
I haven’t seen this vid and going off the title. Watched yesterday and can genuinely say, it knocked it out of the park!
90% of this movie looks to be cameos of characters from movies most fans hated. I hope he yells “CHIMICHANGAS!!!” That’s hilarious and will never, EVER get old and hackneyed.
Well it didn't so fortunately your prediction was wrong.
How did I not know that "rain check" was a baseball reference
I’ve watched you for a while now but randomly I’ve just been binging your more recent content over and over again at work for a few weeks now, and I’m so happy to add another video to that list.
This one didn't age well 😭
X-Men Wolverine is something I liked but only one scene.
The old woman and man dying, I just cried aloud.
Deadpool mouthless is bizarre wow
So we can’t get improv some lines are better just coming out like that a little bit sad now, but hey if the only way to learn to the hard way is to repeating history well then….
The elephant in the room nobody mentions is that most Hollywood writers are OF COURSE writing at home during the strike, then will miraculously have the most productive 24 hours of their lives as soon as the strike ends. And I'm perfectly okay with that.
Scott making baseball reference jokes, pure gold. No mention of Scott secretly being Ryan Reynolds? Darn, could have had that one.
So Hollywood, you have failed. And you learned nothing.
Lol just shut up that trailer just now was fire 🔥
Bro this video was 8 months ago. I’m sure he’ll make a positive video about the trailer soon. But 8 months ago this movie seemed like it was gonna be bad
@@FishManMovies eh I’m waiting to see but yea I’ll give ‘em time
You're kidding right?😅 exactly what about it was fire? I'll wait.
This is really interesting seeing the varied responses after the release
Great job with the baseball references. Really knocked it out of the park
Ironically enough, now we know this won't happen, because with SAG AFTRA strike production can't move forward at all. Which is good.
Wow, first time being one of the first people watching a RUclips video... It's great that you support the writers, wasn't expecting less of you. ¡Love your channel! ¡Saludos desde Uruguay!
Your baseball quips are keeping me going!
Perfect topic, perfectly timed.
Personally have a soft spot for X-men origins wolverine. Had it on a dvd when I was younger. That big fat guy was a great character.
There was actaully an Actor AND writer strike, so nothing was being filmed.
You were wrong.
i got a mint mobile ad right after logan said about him finally shutting up.
The movie title was so predictive: "X-Men Origins Colon: Wolverine." Nothing else needed.
I remember the first time I watched X-Men Origins: Wolverine it was the leaked version on a burned DVD that my brother's friend let us borrow. It was so bad that I turned it off about half way through.
There's a famous Deapool comic where he quits a story right in the middle and starts walking home. But the story doesn't end. It just keeps following him because it has to fill the page count. The comic ends with Wade ignoring tons of plot hooks and exciting stuff happening in the background to explain/complain to the reader about how he knows his whole universe only exists for our entertainment but that it's a hellscape *to actually live in.*
I fully expect the "studio notes" to simply start warping reality mid-movie until Wade gets fed up and literally finishes writing the movie himself.
maybe they should just like...wait till the writers strike is over...before they finish the movie...
Nah. Bad argument. All the latest crop of Marvel movies came with "writers" proper and have been a mess.
Wait, "rain check" has to do with baseball?
ok so Deadpool and Wolverine is coming out soon and this video is being recommended to me by the YT algorithm.
It upsets me so much that this is the world we live in. No plan. Stuff just happens in a big messy ball of yarn.
1 Billion at the box office🔥
As an Australian your accent was an absolutely perfect and on point Territorian accent. The only difference is in the Northern Territory at all times in the background you hear a consistent "BEERS! BEERS! BEERS"
At this point I have a feeling that Hollywood thinks that the writers are a bunch of losers/nobodies
Also I love how much Duke gets hyped up at the beginning of GI Joe 1 only to get his a** handed to him physically and/or mentally in every other scene. It has a Big Trouble in Little China style way of having the lead's sidekick kick more a** and be more important to the plot then the lead which I love.
Funny seeing a Mint commercial right when Deadpool had his mouth shown shut.
There’s also always the chance that the strike ends soon (with the writers winning) and then Deadpool 3 can still be worked on while filming. Or things can be fixed in reshoots.
The nines look like it would scare the shit out of me actually. Shit like that, where something small and kinda silly is SUPER off and wrong, scares me man
Just watched it. It was really damn good
I’ll be honest, I actually really like the “…people are dead”
At least even the creators of this movie knew Ryan Renolds was the right actor for Deadpool
I feel like when Deadpool 3 comes out on streaming and DVD (and hopefully the writers strike is over at that time) they go back and over dub new dialogue for Deadpool where he comments on the fact that there was a writers strike while the movie he's in was being shot.
movie didnt meet my expectations but still good