Old drill press restoration upgrade
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2019
- Old drill press restoration upgrade, I take my 1940 Walker Turner drill press and update it with a 1hp 3 phase motor, VFD for variable speed, and also add a digital tachometer and a LED work light. It's a old tool restoration!
Here's a link to Amazon for the VFD to control the speed of a 1HP 3 phase motor amzn.to/2ALLLYZ
Here's a Link to the 8 to 24 volt tachometer amzn.to/2VTysP6
Here's a link to the small LED light I used on my drill press amzn.to/2STh2jv
If your planning on running the light from the same 12 volt power supply that your tach is on you will need this 6 to 24 volt buck down to 5 volt power supply amzn.to/2t6e9ko
One thing to note is the tach runs off of 8 to 24DC volts and the light runs on 5 volts USB power but comes with a 120 volt wall adapter.
Now back to the drill, I repainted it and repacked the spindle bearings while I was in there. It was a fun project that has refreshed this old machine and I should get many more years out of it! 
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I have that same drill press. passed down from my grandfather along with an old bandsaw and table saw that has a tilting table.
I would like a grandfather like yours and... a drill too. 😄👍 Greetings and congratulations.
Ok, this is the best old drill press restoration video I've seen. Why ? I don't need to see how to remove rust. Or paint.
But I DO want to see swapping out a 1 phase motor for a 3 phase and adding a VFD.
Great, excellent job. My 1953 Atlas 1425 drill press will be better because of you.
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I will be running a *brand new* 1.5HP motor ($50 !) with this controller. I'll let you know how it goes.
Don't think i didn't notice you gave your nephew the heavy end.... Awesome job as always man.
Haha I guess I did :) it wasn’t intentional or was it ;) haha
Thanks for checking out my project!
What a nice composite machine - the quality and durability of old iron mixed with the usability of modern kit. I used to convert all my equipment to single phase by swapping the motor but now the chinese invertors are so cheap I am busy swapping them all back. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for checking out my project! Yes years ago 3 phase machines where a down side when bringing tools back to a home shop, but like you said, now with VFDs coming way down in price it’s definitely a plus having a machine with 3 phase! Take care :)
Love your creative approach - old + new seamlessly combined.
Thanks Gary!
Once again, very inspiring. Guess I need to get to work on the Buffalo No 22 drill press that was given to me several years ago. Thanks again Mike.
Excellent usage of the old drill press.😁🙂
Love the upgrades you did
Yeah, thanks for adding to my already very long project list :) And for blowing my mind with the whole VFD 3PH from 1PH thing. Now, let's go hunting for a 3PH motor on craigs.
Nicely Done - I love to see vintage beast shop tools like that lovingly restored!
How did I miss this video... Thank You
That's awesome I have an old school walker drill press with the 4 foot l9ng cast iron table
Excellent video Mike! Thank you.
Thanks Eddie! I appreciate it man 🙂👍
I'm planning on the same mod to my press when I upgrade my 2x72 motor. Good job man.
That was so cool!!
I just JB Welded a magnet to my Mini Mill with out knowing which side is facing pick up.... well, tomorrow I will find out ... guess I have a 50/50 chance on that. Another thought JB Welding a Rare Earth Magnet was a Treat, or should I say, a learning experience.!!! Great Video, I love the Old Machinery built in 40 & 50 USA.
Awesome project, maybe I'll get my hands on a drill press one of these days :)
Mike, the nice thing about a VFD is that in many cases, one can run a 3 phase motor on single or 3 phase power.
Another great restoration!
Thanks Allan! Yes this old drill press gets used a lot, still working great 👍
Great video- helpful info, and very clean install!
Right on thanks for checking out my video 🙂
very nicely done.
Thanks a lot, because of you and this vid, I will have a more difficult time finding a used drill press, and if I do I'm going to have to pay more for it, heavy on the sarcasm of course.
Really nice refurb!! I see that model VFD showing up for $168 on amazon prime right now. Really tempting!
Thanks for checking out my project! Yes I ordered mine on Amazon prime, it had great reviews and after getting it I can see why. I have installed some VFDs at my work and the ones with the digital displays are kind of a pain to setup and get all the settings right, this one was extremely easy to set up and I feel it was well worth paying a little more for a quality VFD. Keep in mind this VFD is designed to power a 1/8 to 1hp 3 phase motor. I’m planning on doing these same mods to my milling machine in the future, I’m going 3 hp on that one so I’m going to need a bigger VFD for that project. Have you been Milling much this winter? I have only ran my sawmill a little bit, but I’m thinking of firing it up soon, the weather has been extremely mild in the Northwest this winter, no snow and it’s been fairly warm. Take care!
GR8 video Mike. I have an 18" floor model buffalo forge drill press. Cost of flat belt replacement is nuts. Need to switch to modern v belt pulleys.
Thanks! I will need to look up that drill press you got there, it sounds solid! Take care
Another quality build. 👍👍
Thank you David :)
Good job man, thanks 😊
This was a really cool video👍👍👍👍
Right on Thanks!
Surprisingly it seems like RUclips never recommended this video after I posted it so most people have never seen it. Thanks for checking it out 🙂
Nice job again Mike!
Thanks! What projects are you working on these days? And how’s that road stuff going? I sure hope they don’t route it through your woods :(
Cheers Mike, just returned the diesel tractor back the woods, now looking forward to getting the mill back in action.....better build some bat and owl boxes to delay the road ! Still waiting for final route to be decided.
Nice old drill press
@@TF856 lol
I installed a tachometer on my 120 3/4 hp Aico 14 inch swing heavy duty bench drill press ..but chose the Digital LED Tachometer, Icstation RPM Speed Meter AC 110V 220V Digital Motor Tachometer with Hall Proximity Switch version from Amazon which requires no low voltage transformer , used the light work circuit to power it , works well. I also set mine up with a momentary foot operated switch as well as a conventional on /off toggle .The nice thing about adding a heavy duty shrouded foot switch is that you can do immediate stops for any reason at all if necessary . The three phase package that mike did is nice and above all simplified versus other approaches , the controller is especially worth its price.
The three phase variable may be my next upgrade, but so far the fixed speeds at which it mine operates seem more than adequate ..for the materials I drill occasionally on it . Cost for this conversion is not the issue, since quality used 3 phase motors are very much still "obtainiumable " still however needed or not I might do it anyway .
Great video, well explained in detail , nice job 👏👏👏👏👏
Great job!
Thanks Ted 🙂
Looks like a Walker Turner base with a Delta DP 220 (14") head on it. Nothing wrong with that but if you need bearings etc for the head
you will need to source them correctly. I love the mods!
I agree. The base certainly looks like a W/T, but the headstock does not. The W/T that I have from that era has very different castings. That said, the basic design is similar.
Awesome video brother
Thanks Antonio!
festiva your very welcome bro
Great video, thanks!
Thanks for checking out my project!
Awesome job Mike! I'm running a 3 Phase motor and KB Electronics VFD on my metal lathe(s). KB Electronics makes wonderful analog controlled digital VFD's. Great upgrade, and completely reversible if you would ever want to change it back. What jerk off gave this video a thumbs down???
3 phase just plain KICKS ASS!
About that gear reduction box... I see a welding positioner in your future! Now that would be a cool project video.
Some miller guys will probably give you some thumbs down, just for seeing the Vulcan OmniPro 220 in the back ground.
Thanks for the video and taking the time to make it.
Joeak74 Thanks for checking out my drill press video! That’s great your running a VFD from the same company, it really seems well built! What kind of lathe do you have? I have a 3 phase 3 hp lathe it’s from the mid 1980s from Overseas, it can spin 14”X 40” it works good for my needs but I’m sure lathe snobs would turn there nose up at it Haha
About the thumbs down, I’m sure I have a faithful disgruntled subscriber! With in a few hours of posting any new video he will make a point to thumbs down every video I post, people are strange, I noticed this started about a year ago. But hey he clicks on every one of them so that still probably helps my videos.
Ps I ran the Omnipro last week on a welding job and it was awesome! I did a test where I ran it on 1/4” plate steel at 155 amps and welding 4 inch long beads for 15 minuets continues, only pausing to move to the next weld, no over temping! This week the Titanium will be getting the same test.
Take care :)
hi Mike here in Mexico I have one something old but it works well greetings
That’s great! These old tools are solid and with a little maintenance they will work for years to come! Thanks for checking out my project! Take care :)
Another great project - love that old iron! Adjustable open end wrench, aka, "Swedish nut lathe". LOL!!
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Fantastic video! Any chance you can go into more detail on how you wired the tach/light to the unit? I ordered what you used, but am having a hard time understanding what you did to wire it up.
+1 I'd also like to know this
Excellent video thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a 40's era Walker Turner, my style is to keep the patina of age on my old machines and this begs the question: Can I use a VFD on the original motor of my Walker Turner?
Thanks for checking out my video and commenting, I appreciate it! Yes I do like the old patina of these tools, and thought about leaving the paint old but decided to freshen it up. That’s great you have a old Walker Turner drill press too! They have definitely faired well considering the age of these machines. So the original motor on my drill press was single phase and single phase motors can’t be controlled by a VFD, that’s why I had to convert it to 3 phase.
I hope this helps :) take care
Hey Mike, thanks for sharing! When you demonstrated the finished product, I didn't see you running the drill outside of the "normal" range you'd get from a stock woodworking press. What I wanna know before I start buying parts for my conversion is how's the torque at low metal-cutting speeds? Say 100rpm? 😏
Ive seen countless videos on variable speed motors for vintage drill presses but for the life of me, no one shows EXACTLY how to CONNECT the motor being used and which controller to get for a given motor. I have a vintage band saw sitting in storge for years because it's confusing as hell trying to make sense of speed controllers. you would think that someone like grainger would have available a motor and controller sold as a kit with simple wiring instructions and with, say, 3 or 4 motor HP versions.
Nice work. I'm planning on installing a VFD on mine too, but I want to also remove the belt and pulley entirely, mounting the motor right above the main axis.
Be interested to hear how that goes. My first thought would be that the belt assembly provides vibration dampening and could prevent burning out a motor.
@@southerntommygun1353 True. The motor would have to be collected using a "rubber coupling", I don't know the name I'm English. Geared drill presses works with a very similar motor assembly, I need to study one to know what they do to reduce vibration.
@@southerntommygun1353 about the motor, well, we don't have VFDs like the one in the this video here, only the larger ones with million parameters to config. I don't know if the one in the video provides a good protection for the motor, but the more complexe ones can have a very sensible overload detection if you config that way, shouldn't be a problem I guess.
@@jzrgrmm Look for a spider coupling. It's a 3 pronged coupler with a rubber insert. Probably the most important thing will be alignment of the two shafts. Good luck!
@@jzrgrmm rubber coupling is called a Love Joy around here.
I'm curious about doing something like this for an old drill press like this so it would run around 400 rpm to properly drill into steel. My question is this changes the speeds but wont change the torque when running a bit that slow.....is that correct?
Studying the name plate on the motor, I see 208/230 volts and 3.6-3.8 amps (I believe). My question is What is the voltage and amperage you are supplying the machine with in your shop? 20A?, 30A?, or 50A? at 240 volts? Thanks very much! Neilski in Orygone
I’m jealous
I was just given a DUNLAP benchtop drill press looking for a date on it Im thinking 1930's this will be done :)
I really enjoyed your video on updating an old drill press. It just so happens that I’m doing the exact same thing. I have a question for you. My drill press is a 1940 Companion and I want to use a 1/2 hp, 3 phase motor to run it. I’m going to be using 120v from a standard home wall plug. So, I purchased a step up/step down Transformer and it was my intentions to also buy a VFD. Do I need both or can I get a way with just a VFD? That is the question! Thanks in advance for your insight…….
Have you found any loss in torque after adding the VFD? What is the minimum working RPM?
Nice job looks like there mite be some other good parts you could salvage off that glue press
Yes for sure! I’m thinking the acme thread height adjustment gearboxes are well work salvaging, maybe good thing for your bandsaw mill!?!?
Take care Dave!
@@Mikefestiva I think you are right
Great video Mike! I have an old Walker Turner that I"m converting to VFD. I have been searching for which unit to get for controller until I came across your video. I just ordered the exact unit from your link. I want to confirm with the unit model, KB Electronics, 9533, KBMA-24D, 1HP, 1-Phase, 110-120V;200-240V (Input), Nema 1 Enclosure, Variable Frequency Drives? Also, what is the maximum HP motor can this unit handle? Thanks.
Yes that sounds like the same one I used, it’s good for 1/8hp up to 1hp 3 phase motors. Mine has been working perfectly on my drill press. That’s great you have one of these old drill presses, they are well built and solid! I wired mine to plug into 120 volt plugin, you can also wire it for 220 if it is better for you? I just have a lot more 120 v plugs around my shop. Take care :)
Nice refurb! Didn't see the Titanium welder next to the Vulcan still have it? I was planning to pick one up today.
Haha good eye! Yes I have the Titanium welder still and I really like it, I had it at my work so that’s why it wasn’t in the video. I completely recommend you buying one, I have not been disappointed at all with the quality of this welder! Take care :)
@@Mikefestiva Mine is on order local store was out of stock.
That’s to bad they didn’t have one in stock, I think your going to like it when it comes in! Funny timing with your comment, I just got done welding and testing the Titanium on a bigger job at my work, I set up a timer and welded for over 12 minutes on 1/4” metal only pausing to move to the next weld and the Titanium never hit the duty cycle! I will post the video of a real world weld test with both of these welders in a week or so. Take care :)
Awesome vid bro. Can you do a VFD on a single phase?
Thanks for checking out my video, unfortunately you can only vary the speed on 3 phases motors with a VFD.
what did you use to clean the shaft ?
Instead of a plug on the bottom of the vfd, can you wire in a selector switch to swap between the press and whatever else you want to power?
Jakeunlimited if you do that, the video controller knob is not on the 2nd piece of equipment and you will need to walk across the shop to the drill press to control the speed. And the three phase switch will cost more than the plugs.
What number was the VFD you used on your drill press?
Good video. Are the pulleys on both ends the same size? Otherwise your RPM will be different at the chuck.
The pulleys can be whatever size it doesn’t matter, did you notice where I mounted the tach?
@@Mikefestiva My bad. I thought it was on the motor side. I'm old and miss things.
Don’t forget to incorporate a E stop somewhere.
It’s got a on off switch on the panel just like every home shop drill press.
I bought the same VFD drive. I have a 3 phase baldor 1/2 hp motor it is wired for 115 volt input. The motor doesn’t have any power though. Do I need to wire it up for 220 volts?
I also just bought the same VFD and I’m pretty sure output can only be 240. So to answer your question, yes wire it to 240 and it should work.
Really considering getting the same VFD after watching this. Curious if it'll run a worldwide 1.5 Hp motor?
No. Designed only up to 1HP.
im currently restoring an Atlas 1060 pedestal drill press circa 1955. im stuck inside quarantined.
the spindle and or quill is making noise and there is alot of run out. do you know where i would be able to source the bearings for this particular model? thanks, new sub here btw. keep up the good work.
I would do a little research on the web about your make and model to see if anyone has posted the bearing sizes on RUclips or a tool forum.If you can’t find that info I would probably just pull it apart if it’s really bad and look over the bearings, they should have a size on them and I bet they will be very common. If there is no size then take a set of calipers and check the measurements of the bearing ID,OD and thickness, for instance a #1616 bearing is 1/2”ID 1.1/8” OD 3/8” thick.look up bearing charts on line and you will find the size it is. The last part of a bearing # 1616-2RS has rubber seals on both sides, or 1616-ZZ has metal seals on both sides so don’t worry as much about the -RS or the -ZZ. I hope this info helps
You can take the bearings out and take them to your local bearing supplier and they should be able to hook you up with new bearings
The bearings have numbers. Get them from Amazon. I have a 1425 I'm restoring. Good luck.
Why use a three phase motor on a single phase 110V application? Wouldn't it be simpler to add a variable speed controller to a single phase universal motor?
Eric Killorin You have a lot more control over 3 phase, I can run this on 120V or 240V you have full variable speed and you can control the the direction.
A universal motor has brushes tends to run at higher speeds and are fairly noisy. But if you plan to use one on your drill press more power to you 👍
@@Mikefestiva Thanks for the clarification. I'm looking at 110V treadmill motors and controllers but, in the end, I'd go with whatever setup gets the job done. Can an industrial 3 phase motor be adapted as per your instructions for the purposes of running a 110V drill press at variable speeds?
Eric Killorin I would go with the treadmill motor and controller, they can be bought it second hand stores for about $15 and I think they will work just fine on a drill press 👍
@@Mikefestiva thx, great advice!
Great job, that motor you scarfed would cost $600-700 brand new.
Does that speed controller control a single phase AC motor?
it can only run three phase, but there are speed controllers out there that can run single-phase motors, i think. it's easy to alter the speed of a three-phase motor, you can just change the input frequency. but it's difficult for single phase because of the capacitors involved sadly :/
@@cablemanagement1524 Is the capacitor still required for a single phase motor? I mean, you can soft start the motor and get rid of the capacitor isn't?
@@done-damned the capacitor is required for the motor to start, then when it's running, flyweights on the armature cut the starter of and the motor continues to run.
Isn't that just the rpm of the pulley and not the spindle?
Think about what the pulley is connected too???
you might want to chain your welding gas bottle to the wall or put a cap on it. safety first
Source parts for these old drill presses from wtservice@walkerturnerllc.com these guys are extremely informative. I have a 1944 Walker Turner DP and these guys helped me tremendously.
Awesome video BTW 👍
I have a question for you! From everything I’ve read if you want to go from one single phase to three phase USING A VFD, which I’m not sure that’s what you’re doing, but you are adding a VFD for your three phase motor that is extremely old. So how can your motor be VFD compatible???
Did you watch the entire video? I’m not using the original motor. I installed a 3 phase motor with a VFD.
You know I did watch your video and missed that, my bad:) I enjoyed and learned quite a bit from your video. Thanks…..
When I click on "more" I get nothing.