The Acolyte - Episode 7 - The Jedi Did Nothing Wrong
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- The Acolyte Episode 7 pretends to mount a serious critique of the Jedi, but ends up proving them right.
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I'm not sure leslie realised, but she wrote a character that was violated by a more powerful figure, repressed it for 16 years and then killed himself. And he was one of the villains according to her.
I wonder why the former assistant to Harvey Weistein would write that way 🤔
They say to write what you know...
If only Torbin and Kelnacca could have started a #metoo things would have gone differently
@@Nokaret No it wouldn't. They don't have vaginas or enough mental disorders to claim they do so their stories don't matter.
Art imitates life.
The way they zip around the galaxy in 10 minutes whenever the plot demands it, they could have commuted back to Coruscant for a steak dinner and a few beers every evening.
Yeah, that’s a joke I also made. It never takes more than 5 minutes to go anywhere. If he misses the food and fine dining, why not head back there, spend the night, make it back to the planet by the next morning.
This is maybe the only time in the series where they pretend like it takes time to travel somewhere.
I suggest Coruscant be renamed Corus Can't.
Basically you can get anywhere in the galaxy in less time than the average person commutes to work.
Episode 8 will continue this trend, with Green Bean just respawning on Coruscant to start the episode, even though she was still on Khofar at the end of episode 6.
No wonder Tommen was so depressed. I would have turned to the dark side too.
Torbin took the death juice not out of guilt, he was sexually assaulted by an old hag in a mountain as a kid as well as abused by his master that put him to labor all day every day for months without even saying why or what he's even looking for. Just to then nag and berate him when he expresses that he wants a reason for all the work he's been doing as well as missing the comfort of home. ( where he would have someone else to interact with other than the very master that seems dedicated to nag everyone she comes in contact with as exemplified by her interactions with squid game ).
I would go as far as to say that he is one of the people who suffer the most on this show. Second only to the viewer.
Him and Sol are locked in a contest to see who gets needlessly shit on by the show's universe the most.
@@Phoenix0F8 Tobin wins every time Sol managed to have a life in the decade and a half between the murder of the witches and the start of the show, Torbin only had 5-6 years and they sucked so bad that he thought spending the rest of his life in a secluded meditation was the better option.
Btw am I the only one who finds it distasteful, if not dishonest, that Platoon has re-framed Tobin's abuse at the hands of evil as him "flirting with the dark side out of boredom" ?
I think he took the death juice to get out of later episodes…
@@gtrcraigs5119 Well the joke is on him because he was in the later episodes, they were flashbacks but he was there nonetheless.
Nobody is ever really gone (ominously).
@@questionmarks4431 But why did Torbin go along with the space witch? When she was in his mind, telling him how she would be so much nicer to him, he could have said "Begone, lesbo thot!" and fought her off. Instead, he broke down like "Yes, I want my blankie and the salisubury steak they serve at the temple canteen and my episodes of Naboo animated tentacle porn!" and gave in. Like, dude, he was upset that he was at summer camp with old people, I get it, that sounds boring, but why on Coruscant would he even begin to flirt with joining the witch, especially when he should have been angry at her violating his mind?
Oh Ms Headland. Given everything a creative could ever want, endless time, a bottomless budget, carte blanche with one of the richest settings in film history, all the talent that a major multinational corporation can summon to be at your disposal... and THIS is what you make of it.
May you never be forgiven.
May the Farce be with her.
Her talent level must literally be under 0 to achieve that. The odds should have overwhelmingly be in her favor.
Erm, it's actually Mrs. Headland, since she has a wife🤓
Write what you know, Leslye.
May her soul be eaten by mynocks!
“I wish they had given me Joffrey instead.”
Tommen just got burned more than Kings Landing with that one.
I'm 100% okay with Master Squid Game stabbing the demonic smoke monster. Particularly as it appeared to be dissolving a child...of course, seeing as that child was May, perhaps he should have let nature take it's course. LOL!
I still dont understand _why_ she decided to be smoke in that moment. Im hoping he'll explain (if theres actually an explanation).
@@bloodyneptune Yes! Why did she decide to turn into smoke at that point? Was she trying to freak Sol out so he would stab her? Why was she even stabbable in that smokey, ghost-like, non-corporeal form?
He may mention this but according to an interview with the showrunner, she was, and I’m dead serious, trying to ‘transform herself and Mae into the Force in a way that wouldn’t kill them’. 🤪
@@unpopularopinions7407 becoming one with the Force is through dying
The showrunner knows jack about the franchise
@@HateshWarkio She even wrote Jecki’s line in this very show about transforming into the Force where it’s used in reference to death like usual. I think she literally just puts words on paper without thinking
"We've been here for seven weeks. Surely if there was anything we would have found it by now." - The Acolyte describing itself.
Ironically the writers in the Acolyte have created a servicable analogy for male grape in Torbin. He is assualted and no one remarks on it, that he has been violated is never acknowledged by his colleagues and supposed friends, the writers as a stand in for society at large even fail to recognize it as an evil act. Torbin is then ignored, left alone in an empty room with only his terrible memories until he eventually does away with himself after being blaimed for it by some self important bint.
None of the show's writers would recognize this of course...
The Jedi do the same thing all the time with force persuade, invade someone's mind to coerce them to do something.
@@rorrschach8339that only works on the weak-minded, though. It's okay to bully the weak-minded.
@@Goodbutevilgeniusyeah the force persuade is a bit iffy but it is always portrayed as persuasion. Nudging someone’s mind in the direction you want. So a sycophant like fortuna in jabbas place would want to bring Luke to his master in order to be rewarded or storm troopers stopping every person with a droid on tattooine would want to believe these droids were the wrong one. It’s only recently on the big screen force persuasion has become mind control, which is a force ability it’s just a dark side one called coerce dominate #reyisasith
It's not quite accurate because there's no scene where he tries to talk about it and gets emasculated and laughed at by his peers, or reports it and is ridiculed by the authorities, or tries to open up a shelter for similar victims and gets sued by women.
The young jedi getting mind-graped by the yass queen witch was really creepy. It got worse when you notice that none of the Jedis acknowledged it, not even his Master.
Honestly the jedi should have just attacked the witches at that point. The fact they don't is really odd.
Notice it was the only white guy that happened to as well.
“You are a strong and smart Jedi” = you’re so mature for your age.
Unoriginal joke but; they write what they know
i saw someone mention that they think torbin's self ending is actually even worse than it seems-it's played as if he did something awful and evil, despite him being the one that was violated and taken advantage of, and that him offing himself is 'atonement' for his 'evil action', which was something that was inflicted on him against his will-so essentially they've had torbin blamed for being mind graped and that him offing himself is the 'right' thing for him to do, which that person mentioned was a common thing abusers use to get their victims to stay quiet-blame them for whatever the abuser did to them, and then say it's all their fault and have the victim believe it
If you’re trying to play him as suffering from a mental health crisis, then a woman showed up and bullied him into ending his own life because there’s no hope. It’s disgusting if that’s your takeaway. He’s clearly supposed to feel guilty, but all he ever did wrong was rush off to the fortress and stop, before someone else told him to go inside.
Or it's all extremely nonsensical illogical bullshit
@@TheNoonish Why would it be disgusting? Why are people victim blaming Torbin?
Bro, now that you mention it, that’s some crazy levels of abuse and it says so much about the writers and the show runner. It’s evil and appalling.
@@chazzitz-wh4ly In the context of the story, he (Tomlin) has no real motivations that are either explicitly stated or shown to us (he wants to go back to Corusant).
After ep7 and 8, Tomlin has done nothing wrong to have swallowed the poison or even want forgiveness... The story told so far / up to the last ep (8) - it all rests on mostly Master Squid Game and some on Master Trinity (the escalation & resulting death of the Lesb. Witches - which was unfortunate but as Ploots & many others pointed out, what did the LSWitches expect?!). Unless the mind gRape power has long-term effects, hence Kilnaka (wookie jedi) hiding out & acting all bizzare? That sounds like lazy writing.
From a meta perspecive, *we know why Tomlin has to die. Has to do with his "skin care" and his dangly bits... Can we just be honest?*
This story was clearly the product of Leslie Headlamp's OCs from fanfiction, some poor tabletop games/campaigns (not sure if D&D fitted with a Star Wars supplement, homebrew, or the actual Star Wars D20 rulebooks which do or did exist, I remember them in '08), and a mishmash of ideas that don't quite fit.
It makes little to no sense. Tomlin did nothing wrong. If I had to guess, he was an NPC / GM boss character in Leslie Headlamp's tabletop game at one point.
*Interesting tidbit:*
I forget where I heard this (8BitEric, Hypnotic, somewhere else online I've heard this?) but someone said (an alleged friend of Headlamp's) about awhile or so ago (perhaps not so long, as recent as the TFA premiere) Headlamp wasn't pozzed and she was like you or I; A True Fan, but then because she wanted to "make it" in the biz, she embraced those things.
I repeat, *Jedi Master Tomlin did nothing wrong.* There is no sense of conflict in The Acolyte and in modern writing in general. It sucks.
Imagine spilling some tea on the outlet in your kitchen, and the power plant down the street exploding. That's how stupid that electrical fire is.
I looked at my bf and went 🧐🤷🏻♀️ it’s a decommissioned mining base? Maybe there’s like…..space coal dust on everything?? But like, it’s stone. I really…..idk
@@maddiedoesntknoSometimes aluminum deposites that build up over time can go off like that, ive heard it happening to machine shops and mines and the like so it it is possible that old facilities can go up like that. However since it wasn't explained to the audience i believe the writers didn't know or take anything like that into consideration and just assumed thats how fire works
@@riftvallance2087 I grew up in a coal mining/railroad town and if you read the old papers at the historical and genealogical societies, this place was like a tinder box 150 years ago. Coal dust, sawdust, baskets, and sparks flying everywhere. Regularly just went up like nobody’s business.
I thought at least they were going to reveal the Jedi had sabotaged the generator. But no, the destruction of the fortress really was all on May. 😅
It was a cardboard fortress all along
Just painted to look like stone
IKR there were no reason to cover it up at all
They say that May burn the place like it a lie or something but no that exactly what happened
And all of it with O.S.H.A. on the site.
Yup! And that just makes what happens in ep8 even worse, given Squid Game really did nothing wrong.
The writers are trying so hard to make the jedi look bad for a cover up and make May look like she did nothing wring that it’s beyond contrived.
Oh for the love of-!!
Leslie, when George said “the dark side is seductive” and “Vader was seduced by the dark side” he meant as in to those in pain, grief, rage, or just straight up pride can be “seduced” at the prospect of attaining incredible power, at the cost of goodness, positive reputation and morality. To a person in pain or pride, that prospect sounds very alluring because you could rise to a level you are not at, and quickly. You could reign down the pain on those who wronged you, and then be limited by only your drive and ability.
*IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU WANT TO SMASH A SITH, LESLIE, YOU HORNY GORMLESS TOAD*
Thank you for the increase in my vocabulary, Mr. Platoon
Edit: I was so goddamn mad at this show I had to come back and make sure I said my entire point EXACTLY as my hatred and scorn conjured.
Well, there is that other interview where she is putting sexuality on two androids. ANDROIDS (one of which looks like a trash bin on wheels).
Her brain obviously is in the gutter and everything has to have rainbow undertones.
I found this especially funny because in Old Republic games, more dark side points make the character visibly look more sinister wrinkly evil. Now that might not be canon or anything but I always thought the dark side wasn't meant to be all that alluring on the physical level of basic attraction..
That about sums up Hedland's headspace. She is afterall an acolyte of Harvey.
@@DoodsUnited I'd say that's canon- the Sith being all withered and gross, I mean. It's been a pretty consistent thing in the expanded universe, and was shown with Sidious in _Revenge of The Sith._
Apparently, Palpatine smashed someone, and we stumbled upon Rey.
Maybe being emperor has its benefits.
I frankly don't blame Torbin for drinking Bunta Kool-Aid over his guilt for being in The Acolyte.
@silverscorpio24 if I was givin a hairline like that I'd Bunta myself to.
Anakin: I have to side with the evil space wizard in order to save my pregnant wife.
Tommen Baratheon: I’m homesick! 😭
Which motivation is the most compelling for the audience?
Why, beyond the very bad dream, did he think she would die?
@MegaSpideyman Because the last time he had a bad dream about someone he loved dying, it happened. He assumed it was the same thing (and was right, just with a _ton_ of context missing)
@@MegaSpideymanI know if I had a dream that my mother would be kidnapped and tortured to death and then the next time I checked on her she'd gone missing, which then led to me finding her and her kidnappers and her dying in my arms, I'D bloody believe my dreams were prophetic too...
@@MegaSpideyman because it was the exact same type of dream he had about his mother dying. and his mother died
@@MegaSpideymanbecause the last time he had a vision of a loved one dying it happened? also the Jedi have the ability to sense the future, so why wouldn’t he take that one seriously?
As a danish person, let me just say: We are so very very sorry for inflicting Amandla Stenberg upon the world, we have sacrificed a Tour de France win as repentance!
Honestly I think reparations might be in order.
And I will just add, there is no ghetto in Denmark anywhere, Amandla Stenberg is trying to pull the wool over your eyes, the hardest thing she has ever experienced is a flat tire on her bike!!
Edit: "On one of her bikes"
As much as I appreciate the joke, there was no stopping Pogacar this time.
As an american, we gave the world Leslie Headland. Let’s just call it even.
I'd like to say, as a Southern African of the Zulu culture, we are sorry for giving her that wonderfully symbolic name with regard to our history.
Tommen Baratheon: "I was seduced by the dark side because I was forced to do botany for a time".
Pretty understandable really. 7 weeks of purposeless botany would make me march on the Temple with the 501st
That would do it for me as well
I love that the show ignores the fact that all the witches would have exploded in the fire May started and died anyway, regardless of whether the Jedi came back or not. May’s fire and Torbin unexpectedly zooming back to Mount Lesbian were unrelated.
Good point!
No, you don’t understand. They all knew the Jedi were on their way because they all read the script.
It's so crazy that Lesbian Mind Rape was so traumatic that it caused Kelnaka and Tommen to go into seclusion for effectively their entire lives, ending in Tommen killing himself, and the writers don't even know they wrote it that way.
It's even worse now, since we know now tommen was emotionally vulnerable when they did it.
So we now have the bizarre situation that the vulnerable mindr*** victim, who took action against the cult of mindr***ers (who had two children they were emotionally manipulating), was gaslighted into thinking that taking action against the very hostile mindr***ists was wrong and afterwards was emotionally damaged to the point of, pretty much, shutting himself off from the world for years and willingly offing himself.
And him offing himself is still treated as justified.
...what the F*CK are you implying here Leslie and show 'writers'?
Wrong. Tommen killed himself from the guilt of what he thought he caused later on (he wasnt at fault, but he thought he was, which is pretty logical)
@@boguszmakowski2357 in what sense was he responsible? Note that even irrationally guilt-ridden need some logic to their feelings.
The whole “I did bad things while I was being controlled by magic and now I’m guilty over it” rings 100% false. Sorry, I will never buy that.
@@sugartoothYT they intervened, and all the witches + 1 girl died if they weren't to go there, osha would have been accepted/rejected fully peacefully. Them going there was used as an excuse to start the fight.
edit: oh, i misunderstand you. he wasnt guilt ridden by what he did when he was posessed, it's what he did later on when he was conscious
The power of many doesn’t seem to be all that if trinity alone can cause all those witches to have fatal brain aneurysms simultaneously.
That confused me _so_ much. Like...they're just dead now? _Why_ are they just dead? Did Trinity _know_ she was killing like 30 people? Thats a bit messed up
The Trinity > Communism? There's a religious pun in here somewhere...
@@bloodyneptune not really
If 30 people gang up on your 3 friends then saving those 3 takes a priority
The witches got what they deserved
And they died probably because the Dark Side seems to be very much based around power in exchange of something
They might have been technically dead the moment they possessed Jedibacca
Well so much for “we don’t use it as a weapon”
@@a_lost_one The power of Christ compelled them to Minecraft.
I'm willing to bet these reviews have had more viewers and made more money than the episodes themselves.
The fact they make any amount of money means they make more money than the show.
@@TheLittlePlatoon as Nerdorotic said Disney would get back and even earn more money by just simply live streaming seting on fire and burning of 180 million dollars...
@@mikcnmvedmsfonotekaDisney: we've realized we need better writers and fast - write the best star wars story you can and send it to us, best 180 entries get a million dollars 😂
@@TheLittlePlatoon, editing value off the charts! Such work, such results! Color me truly impressed.
(Every image/segment corresponding with your "discourse", and making a visual point underlying yours, every single frame... perfect work!- and autistic level of memory, obviously. You remembered where to find what you needed, each time!)
They're at least better thought out, but that's setting the bar pretty low.
The one good thing the Acolyte did is make it clear that Platoon is probably the best critic on the platform at this point lol. Looking forward to his take on the finale.
Such an in depth critique, and he isn’t even going for low-hanging fruit like “how did Sol get back down?” or “why aren’t the Jedi going back to Coruscant every few days, if travelling doesn’t take that long?”
What I really appreciate (and find to be unique amongst all the youtube channels covering this train wreck of a show) is his suggestions on how you can easily improve it. It feels like the writers had to put more effort in fucking this up at every turn.
Just a reminder. Luke was able to scan Degobah for life, cities and technology in a matter of seconds from the cockpit of a single-seat fighter.
Just a reminder, even though time in this show is, ahem, malleable, that was 116+ years after this show is set.
Not to make excuses for it, but certain advances in technology are understandable.
This show is utter nonsense, yet time seems to be something people forget the context of, probably because of the mind rot of the writing!
Just like Platoon gets oddly confused by "already seen tbe Jedi mind-reading!" but in-universe, none of those have yet happened...
@@OsellaSquadraCorse Technology in Star Wars has been largely stagnant for a very long time. There's no evidence at all that the X-Wings scanning capabilities are in any way, shape or form exceptional, innovative or extraordinary. It's a fighter. And not even a particularly advanced fighter. The idea that it would have sensors superior to a Jedi ship (which likely would've been cutting-edge at the time because Jedi) even 120 years older is insanity to me. Especially in a galaxy that had practically stagnated technology-wise. There's nothing to indicate that there has been a large advancement in sensor technology in the time between The Acolyte and ESB.
What's more likely is that the writers just forgot, or didn't care, that this was a capability of a small single-seat snubfighter in the relatively-near future.
Well and the rebels surely didn´t have access to the best tech, which means, scanning tech on this lvl must be very cheap and wide spread ;)
@@raisti6608there was a galactic wide war, alot of tech like this would be everywhere.
@@OsellaSquadraCorse Nope, we can say that's wrong. We already know that the galaxy's technology level has remained virtually the same across the millennia of peace ever since the Sith's near-extinction. A few minor advancements here and there, but nothing on the level of the gap between Anakin's robotic hand and Luke's real-looking prosthetic hand. Even if ship scanners WERE improved in the 116 years, it should still take less than an hour at most for the Jedi to find the witches with scanning.
"We demand.... A shrubbery!!"
-The Jedi Knight Who Say "Ni!"
You end up putting more time and effort in each of these breakdown episodes about the Acolyte than they put into mapping out the whole damn show. I hope you've got a vacation planned for after you finish episode eight you may need it
Can we appreciate how Osha despite her sister just trying to murder her and Osha believing she caused the great fire decides to stand on a collapsing bridge. Hand outstretched shouting her sisters name instead of running to safety and of course Mae does the exact same, despite her trying to murder her sister and blaming her for the death of everyone.
They were innately aware of where the camera was and how they had to pose for it.
To be fair (I haven't seen the series, so pardon any ignorance of mine), with Osha, it could be a touching and tragic moment: despite everything Mae has done, she's her sister and Osha loves her, and she can't turn her back on her. She can't give up hope that she can still save Mae and bring her back to the good side. She wants to give Mae yet another chance. Her love and devotion as a virtue taken to a fault.
Got nothing to justify Mae doing it, though.
@@TheNoonishthis! All logic is thrown out to make this derivative "script" function...
lately, body camera footage showed a child (a little younger) asking the police officer for his phone from the car where the officer just shot his uncle a dozen times.
i prefer the portrayal of children as stupid, panicking kids, rather than fully capable, cold-blooded mature minds. but whatever.
@@xcharlesbronsonx logic suggests that children act on emotions and are almost fully not capable of thinking in life or death scenarioes
I came here for the hilariously detailed takedowns of this disaster of a show, but I stayed for some rather insightful explanations of what makes a show either bad and good. I've never really given too much thought to the reasons why I enjoy something or not in the past, and I've actually learned a few things over these last few episodes. Acolyte wishes it could be this entertaining, or interesting, or engaging in any way at all.
To be fair, I believe the Wookie found an old Roman coin, so it wasn’t all for nothing.
a fine addition to his COLLECTION
You mean a Space Roman coin.
So Kelnacca, found any landmines yet?
'Rrrrrrrrrarrrrrrrrr'
Stop complaining, we even brought a metal detector this time!
@@Nokaret lol, now I want a fanfic where he’s got sitcom levels of unlucky as to ALWAYS be walking into landmines. He’s not searching for something related to the vengeance WITH the metal detector, he’s going around sensing with the Force for the vergance and he just ALWAYS uses a metal detector. Walking through the hallways of the Jedi Temple? Metal detector. Walking through a spaceport? Metal detector. Walking on the beach? Metal detector.
@@StarWarsomania
Yoda: A success your mission has been?
Indara: Yes master, all went well. Kelnacca exploded again.. somehow. His fur took the brunt of it though, he'll live.
Yoda: Tough bastard, he is.
The power of many was too strong for Trinity so she showed them the script, killing them instantly.
It was her trap card!
Probably she was one of the Greek Moirae and snapped their life thread with a scissor
I'm neurodivergent, and I can relate to Torbin's character, because I too want to commit die after witnessing this show.
Lmao
"I want to commit die" the way you phrased that has me actually laughing out loud!
Im bout ready to commit die myself (for unrelated reasons)
same...including being neurodivergent
How sad that Star Wars went from being an inspiration to always choose the right path (even if that’s harder to do) to espousing this moral relativism bullshit. Remember kids, giving up is always an option 🤮
Thanks to your episodes, I don’t have to give these people any money- and be infinitely more entertained in the process. Blessings be upon your channel, and may the force be with you
Hopefully Little Platoon can look back on these episode reviews as a Magnum Opus. This show was a gold mine of material and these opportunities don’t always present themselves.
@@TheNoonish I plan on forgetting everything about The Acolyte as quickly as I possibly can.
@@TheLittlePlatoonGood luck with that!
@@TheLittlePlatoonWise choice! I hope you still finish your Rings of Power reviews, they were great, too.
@@TheLittlePlatoon I've no doubt your mental well being, is thanking you
@@TheLittlePlatoon Perfect response comedically.
The episode that was so bad even GRACE RANDOLPH couldn't defend it! Brace yourselves, boys and girls, this gonna be a wild one.
SSSOOOOOOOO….
"The Bureau of Jawa Juice, Deathsticks and Blasters"
I smell a merchandizing opportunity!
Honestly if the cartels could manufacture illicit spice creams, it would be the only genius merchandising this show could generate.
Moichendising! dats where the real money is!
Also, just realized that Episode 8 definitively establishes that Coruscant is just the Hub World that characters load into by default. Despite Green Bean not even reaching Khofar until Sol had left Khofar, at the start of episode 8, she's back on Coruscant and acting like she's been there for a little while, while Sol is arriving at Brendok.
Field work leads to moss collecting.
Moss collecting leads to boredom.
Boredom leads to homesickness.
Homesickness... leads to suffering.
I sense much field work in you
I love how everyone's criticism of the scene of Sol killing the Mother was that for obvious reasons he assumed she was killing the child, and Leslie Headland's explanation of that scene is that Sol's assumption was basically absolutely _correct,_ but she acts like it isn't and refuses to elaborate
Torben: "Master, I wanna go home to Coruscant."
Indara: "Because you're homesick?"
Torben: "No, because I'm dendrophobic. Trees creep me out! I miss the concrete jungle back home."
1:41:11 There's something far more insidious in here. Saving her friend from being mind controled and forced to (attempt to) kill people is, in her mind, a SELFISH ACT.
Like, say, saving young acrresses from being preyed upon...?
Her friend who is a massive threat and might kill her other two friends and possibly even herself. Leslie literally thinks they should just let innocents die in case saving them might, somehow, kill the people threatening those innocents. We've gone so far in the direction of trying to see the good in bad people and hopefully reform them that we've flipped upside down and now protect the guilty from the innocent.
@@billjacobs521 Just Lesley, former personal assistant to Harvey Weinstein, writing what she knows.
“Mother Anus Eye” 😂 genius.
“Still trying to find their shrubbery” 😂 nice reference to Monty Python 🤣
"On second thought let's not go to Coruscant. It is a silly place."
[French accent] “Your mother was a horny toad and your father was an anus eye. I spit in your general direction.”
Argument: "Rebel Moon" is actually a better written screenplay than "Acolyte". Rebel Moon characters actually have motivations and cause/effect relationships. Albe they very, very simple. BRILLIANT video 'Platoon!
Disney: I made worse Star Wars works.
Zack Snyder: Hold my beer.
Disney: No, YOU hold my beer!
Zack Snyder: No, YOU hold my beer!
*repeats ad-nauseam*
The slow motion wheat had more character than Amandla Stenberg.
And scarily enough I'm pretty sure that the protagonist of that movie emotes more than the one in the show.
"Outside in the camp, where I guess they live because their spaceship cabins cost $6K a night and are sh*t..." LMAO, savage!
Quite how a Jedi becomes bored while in a place of nature I'm not sure. Not only are they somone attuned to the lifeforce of other living things, but they've been trained from toddlerhood to value meditation and mindfulness. Why is Torbin acting like a standard teenager character? Anakin wasn't normal, he was a very unusual situation and that was why he was so troubled.
oooh I know! because the hacks who wrote this slop dont understand even the basics of the Jedi? the group they claim to critique?
It's even worse than that.
The entire explicitly stated reason he wanted to leave was because they'd spent SEVEN WEEKS on this planet, never told him why they were even there, did absolutely nothing of value, and his master refused to tell him ANYTHING and she NEVER apparently teaches him ANYTHING. She just expects him to figure EVERYTHING out himself.
He literally says he'd be FINE if he just knew what they were doing actually mattered, then Sol tells him they're looking for a Vergence, the MOST important thing the Jedi care a whole lot about.
Fixed.
Then he gets mind raped by a dark side lesbian witch, and SUDDENLY he's hell bent on going home no matter what. She did it. This has to be her fault. The witches did EVERYTHING wrong here.
Also Sol points out to Trinity Jedi that her Padawan is being emotional and imbalanced, and she just INSULTS him saying literally "No you" without actually giving a shit about Torbin. She says outright she doesn't teach him or tell him anything! Seriously, she's SUCH a cunt in this show. EVERY time Sol tells her someone seems to want this, or they're feeling that, she just spits "That's what YOU want you stupid piece of shit with no Padawan. Ptuah." into his face. Trinity Jedi's a stupid bitch, Sol just wants to help some children in a death cult, and he wants to help Torbin too, he did NOTHING wrong. The witches were the ones who kept attacking the Jedi, and Trinity Jedi kept ignoring it. Her Padawan gets mind raped and she literally doesn't care about him.
Jedi = bad space cops. The allegory is so forced it’s pathetic. No nuance or deeper meaning just right there.
I haven't watched this aside from on here, but also notice how barren and lifeless the Disney worlds are (aside from the insect infested one) compared to Lucas' worlds.
@@jesperburns Not even the insect ones.
They were in a FOREST.
For HOURS.
They encountered ONE fucking animal. ONE!
IN A PLANET SIZED FOREST!!!!
They didn't even ENCOUNTER an animal, OSHA just woke one up because she's retarded.
So there's ONE kind of animal in ONE area on this ENTIRE fucking planet and the Jedi just happen to follow the wookie Jedi's cum rag through this exact route at this exact time and encounter a hive of creatures that according to Soy Boy Jedi perfectly explains A DOZEN JEDI BEING KILLED!
Literally ZERO parts of this show make ANY fucking sense.
Remember everyone, saving a colleague from assault is a "selfish want".
Defending your home from intruders is evil right?
@rorrschach8339 They lost the moral right-of-way when they are the ones that kept automatically resorting to egregious escalation and horrific means of violence. Horny Mommy physically abused Mae and goaded her into trapping Osha against her will, that by itself justifies storming the fort. Mother Anus-Eye mind-raped a teenager for no reason, agreed to let Osha leave because she wanted to (invalidating any argument that the Jedi are “in the wrong to forcibly take her away”) then when the bit-characters mutinied she presented herself in a villainous light to Sol rather than put down her psycho underlings or implore him for help stopping them. The witches did everything wrong, including morally, because again OSHA DID NOT WANT TO STAY WITH THE COVEN AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE COVEN WITH THE ONLY-PARTIAL EXCEPTION OF ANISAEA RESPONDED WITH MURDEROUS INTENT AND ABUSIVE ACTIONS TO STOP HER FROM LEAVING.
@@gabbycotto4024 All of that is wrong, but the side you support can do nothing wrong right? The Jedi are the good guys so they can do whatever they want right?
@@rorrschach8339 sounds like you've made up your mind that we're blind to the wrongs of the Jedi.
I saw an interview with multiple cast and crew members of this show. The interviewer asked if they would choose the light side or the dark side. Multiple people, without hesitation, with total seriousness, said they'd choose the dark side. Including Headland. It was cooler, they said.
I think about that fairly often.
Well the problem is the general image we get of the light side are the Jedi, who are basically ascetics. I respect people who choose that lifestyle, but I wouldn’t choose it for myself. I’d end up choosing neither because I like to indulge in my vices instead of seeking ultimate discipline.
The Jedi could have been written as more down to earth and generally identifiable, but apparently the only choices George wanted them to have were absolute discipline or evil.
I mean, not really? Like, contrary to what a lot of writers think, the Dark Side isn't some "cool darkness" that can be used for good or to turn you into a badass, it just gives you the path for the laziest life path: being a selfish dick. Maul was an angry monster, Vader would burn the galaxy in empirical rule just for his circle of loved ones, Tyrannus somehow thought that a horrific galactic war was justified by a _possibly_ better world, and Palpatine was a manipulator who cared for nobody but himself.
If the Jedi are like minimalist monks with too rigid limits on deviation, then the Sith are the school shooters of the galaxy.
Nobody who turns to the Dark Side can really be looked up to or envied. Or if they are, then the writer (and/or audience) utterly failed to get Lucas' point: that anyone willfully using evil for their problems is really just a sad, pathetic loner who deludes themselves into thinking that gaining power by backstabbing other people somehow equates to achieving true contented happiness.
Not one person called her "Leslie Head-Lice." Such a missed opportunity.
"Lesbian Headlamp" is close 😂
@@silverscorpio24
That’s my favorite lmao
I wonder by now how many times The Little Platton used the word "crazy" to describe The Acolyte? And not in a good way... Stay strong Little Platoon, you are almost done.
May the thread be with all of us.😭
One more. Just one more…
@@TheLittlePlatoon Hahaha.
@@TheLittlePlatoonhey,at least the next one will be more...will have more happening.At least you will have something to talk about...even if it will still be awful
I’m proud of you Little Platoon a lesser man would’ve broke under such torture
"His hairline conducted a disorderly retreat in the sixteen years between now and his suicide"
A line that hits harder than it should.
You should be paid Disney's budget for The Acolyte given the amount of effort you put into this over what they made.
The complete mental breakdown when it's revealed the stone catching fire really was caused by burning a book. 🤣
For as bad a brainfart Sol had on the bridge, the twins are the real irredeemable morons to stand on a broken structure groping air for 40 seconds. Same as the witches who gave themselves strokes mindjacking a wookie, same as Ma Weave “letting Osha go” by speaking antagonistically at all opportunities and trying to bodily kill one of her children in front of an on-edge Jedi, same as Ma Horns abusing her child AND starting the fight in the first place because “I’d rather die than lose them” only to run away and let everyone else die, and Mae deserves double callout for being a stupid brat playing with matches after breaking the only door out of the fort (so everyone was gonna die anyway). It really is pathetic that the writers expect us to just forget that she originally said “I’ll kill you” to stop her sister leaving on top of all the rest.
Just admit you hate the twins because they're black.
"we've been here for seven weeks. Surely if there was anything we would have found it by now."
"It's a Planet Tomin.
A whole planet.
Frankly the idea that four people are surveying the whole thing is ludicrous"
Good point!😆
What kills me is that you expect that the jedi would come in with an experience crew of specialized technicians, deploy a good number of satellites for communication or scanning, then proceed to send a thousand probe droids to the planet.
Instead they sent 4 people to investigate a major miracle. With metal detectors. And a blender that blends shrubs to analize the midichlorians I guess? And this guys couldn't even spot the massive fort-gina that stands at 10 km from their camp, no seriously, how did they miss it?
they have a spaceship, and the ability to sense the power in the planet. The metal detector bugs me tho
maybe this project is to convince the Senate that the Jedi need more funds in order to more properly carry out menial tasks
@@boguszmakowski2357 reminds me of an episode of Babylon 5.
Instead of following the main cast we see the story from the point of view of two minor technicians.
One has a metal detector like device that you have previously seen people waving around in the background.
He confides in his colleague.
"I have no idea what this thing does.
Is it scanning for hull fractures?
Cleaning the floor?
They just told me to wave it around and I didn't want to sound dumb by asking.
Now it's been too long to go back and admit I don't know what I'm doing."
I need some more “Occupational Safety and Health Administration” in my life!
I want the second season as long as the show is decanonised, I'm so sad it's over 😔 I've been looking forward to every wednesday...
you need to get out more
No one, and I mean NO ONE needs more government orgs in their life.
Never gets old
shit makes me laugh every time
In Legends it’s effectively confirmed that the Force created Anakin as a direct response to Plagueis’ meddling and causing the Force to fall out of balance.
So it’s both; Plagueis created Anakin indirectly and the Force created him directly.
"Again it start to become a selfish want." - Headland
Wanting to protect others is not selfish you sociopathic walking coma.
Yet it can be, if the motivation is wrong. Giving her barely any credit, its astatement that in isolation isn't always wrong.
The desire to protect can be selfish if the object of the protection doesn't want or need it.
It's the classic SJW position, always looking to 'help' but only inn the way they deem right. Same thing with many parents, who want to protect but can inhibit or stifle, so the desire to protect is selfish, not always considerate.
Thank you for pointing out that Torbin becomes a master within six years of these events, but he is so psychologically unstable that he goes into a 10-year force bubble and then kills himself. There is no way he would have passed the trials.
Given that Coruscant is only five minutes away from this planet (I don't feel like looking up the name) as demonstrated in the next episode, I wonder why he and the others couldn't have gone back for weekends. Before leaving for the trip, there would have been discussions about the mission's purpose, approximate length, and possible furlough opportunities if warranted due to an extended duration.
I was in the Marines for 5 years and I'm a combat vet. 0311 OEF 2011 - 2014. Went on several patrols and excursions beyond the wire. In my whole 2 deployments I never went on an OP where my leaders did not outline the basic objective of the mission or brief my guys on the environment, hazards and possible enemy movements on the ground.
To go out there with no idea what you're doing or what you're looking for would do nothing but spur needless casualties and honestly waste a fuck load of time.
It's kinda insane how my though process for these videos the last two weeks went from "Oh man, Platoon really needs to hurry up and get the episode 7 video out, this shit is insane" to "Holy shit, forget episode 7, I need his thoughts on episode 8, this shit is ludicrous"
So in the past, they had instant hyperdrive, but no scanners? Even a beat up X-wing can scan a planet for life from space.
"I'm not picking up any cities or technology, massive lifeforms readings though"
Luke Skywalker, empire strikes back...
So he could scan for both in a ship made to fight. Not for research.... yeah... great writing Leslie....
Headland choosing to depict the process of how masters are assigned padawans as being some sensed connection (presumably via the Force?) is dangerously close to the idea of warewolves imprinting on their soulmate (regardless of age difference) from .. (shudder) .. Twilight.
I was also getting Twilight baby imprinting vibes from that.😅
It was weird and kind of icky in Twilight, and it's weird and kind of icky in the Acolyte.
so the entire plot of Acolyte originates from mother Anuseye casting the worlds most evil looking Zhonya's Hourglass effect and the show explains ZERO of WTF IS GOING ON
Problem: I want character to do something, but if character gets told about something by simply talking to other characters, then they won't do the thing
Solution: All other characters will simply refuse to say anything or have any normal conversation about important things
Now I can write for Disney Star Wars
Trinity leaping in reminds me of Arya appearing from nowhere to kill the Night King.
There is a certain line from the legendary Mystery Science Theater 3000 (specifically episode 904 "Werewolf") that frequently applies to any modern Disney creation.
"You know, it's economical not to have a story line, because then you can just film people saying things."
These people aren't telling cohesive stories. They are just filming people saying and doing things.
The Feelies
Give that editor a raise again! The perfectly timed clips, and so many in such a small amount of time. S/he is doing amazing work. That Hercules clip lined up with your voice over was 🤌🏻
Did you notice how these people have absolutely no idea how fire works? We have a campfire being gently blown by the wind in space, a single candle setting an entire stone fortress on fire, and even the book burning scene is wrong! Just look at it! The book seems like a practical effect, but that candle light... it's a much larger fire scaled down and added after.
This in a universe where sound and explosions exist in space.
50:35 the witch:"I can fullfill your every desire"
Jedi: "mom pick me up, I'm scared"
I don't understand why the Jedi camp on the planet for 7 weeks. Coruscant is a 3 minute commute away, so why not just go home after work each day?
Why not just sleep on their ship if they don't want to go back? It's a movable home base with everything they need.
Once again they cannot comprehend the damage they’ve done to time.
@@MajorSmurf Or at least cook on it. Why are they roasting random wildlife over a campfire? Did they go glamping but force their teenager to come sit by the fire instead of sitting inside and watching porn on his tablet?
@@billjacobs521 You know... I wouldn't put it past the writers for that being the reasoning.
Remember kids, time works differently when something is off screen. Can fly for one group of characters while standing still for another. The force and Leslye's writing work in mysterious ways.
Turning into a fartcloud to de-escalate is the stupidest thing -_- The IRL equivalent would be to fire a few blanks at the cops to de-escalate an arrest
I really enjoy the amount of attention you give these long form reviews. Even if it’s something I don’t agree with I get an entire breakdown of how you got to your point. Far more effort than anything Disney does
With the way Star Wars travel now works, they could have gone home to Coruscant every single night after an 8 hour day of metal detecting. There was no reason for them to camp out.
You're as dumb as you look.
I love how when a writer has to come to an interview and explain their screenplay. Peak fiction
And struggle doing so! Bad enough that so much of the characters backstory didn't make it into the show, the interview shows that sometimes there isn't any to begin with.
@@NokaretYup, barely any answers or definitive statements, It's just "I think" most of the time. You created the characters and the story and you don't know!?
Trinity: Tommen go pick grass
7 weeks later...
Tommen: This is boring. I want to go home
Trinity: You are a disappointment
Sol: We are looking for virgins!
Who actually got money to write this crap 😂
"Why can't you simply deduce that we're looking for a thing you didn't even know existed? Especially after we spent all this time doing absolutely nothing that would lead you to that conclusion?"
@@billjacobs521 "Be mindful and stick some more lemon thyme in that smoothie maker!"
1:39:00 Just, HOW MANY CONTRADICTIONS IN THE SAME MINUTE??!! "I have to do this thing", "she doesn't know the consequences". "It's a selfish want", "a have to free my colleague". EITHER SHE IS GUILTY OR SHE ISN'T!
It’s not selfish. If they mind possessing your friend, and the only way to release their control is to kill them, they initiated that struggle. That’s 100% justifiable. Don’t just kill them, burn all the bodies just to be sure.
I haven't watched a single episode of The Acolyte but I'm praying for a second season so you can mock it again.
This is a trivial point besides the lack of characters, coherent motivation, or rewarding world-building, but why would you build a mining facility on top of a mountain? Why not dig in from the sides, rather than lugging a bunch of kit to the top, drill down (literally undermining yourself) and have to lift whatever you're digging for upwards as well?
You expect them to have some common sense about world building when they can't even handle character motives also I bet you the response you would get would be "It's science fiction, I can do what I like". This is how bad story telling is getting where they think they can handwave common sense and logic away because it's fiction. Imagine if they ever tried to make a magic system on their own, oh wait the force is slowly becoming that anyway and let me check yep it's mess.
Do you genuinely think anyone put any real thought into this show?
Because then it will look like a vagina.
@@azzy9293 of course not. Platoon's breakdown of the entire show is charting all the basic things the writers and actors didn't think about.
This is just a little thing that caught my attention, and I try to feed the algorithm for content I enjoy.
Using the Ludovico Technique as a metaphor for the present state of affairs in Star Wars fandom is absolutely brilliant. Sometimes the analysis of the "entertainment" is more captivating and is made with more effort than the product being analyzed.
Often, when someone says “[name/group] did nothing wrong,” they are totally incorrect, and their explanation is terribly shallow and basically means, “The murderer had a motive.” But here, it’s refreshing to see the phrase used properly (as expected from the ultra-posh). The Jedi made the morally right choices based on the information they had, even if this is the acolyte and thus everyone is *very* dumb. They did many dumb things. Many many dumb things. Clownish incompetence. But not morally wrong.
I really hate how often movies and shows rely on everyone being dumb. Especially characters who are genuinely supposed to be wise.
I was hesitant to run with it because they really do reach levels of stupidity that border on the immoral. But coming off a 13 hour editing shift I couldn’t think of anything more suitable!
I’ve heard people trying to defend Disney with Hanlon’s razor. So it feels appropriate to just accept that all the stupidity is intended to be innocent.
@@WillFredward7167
It can be summed up very succinctly by a common phrase in a lot of Ryan George's "Pitch Meeting" skits.
"Why do they do X?"
"So the plot can happen."
Or Intelligent. The Lazy Writer's version of 'Smart' is Character talks fast and throws a lot of facts and maths at the audience. Perception, Insight, new ways of looking at things, putting concepts together in new and exciting ways, all of this is usually beyond most Hollywood writers. Few jobs in Hollywood reward such mediocrity so well.
@@torikazuki8701 Writers mistake smart as just being a character that has the right answer, rather than how that character figured out the answer.
:I just wanted to go home, especially after that witch messed with my head - it became an obsession, I thought I was doing the right thing." *unbeknown to Mae, the entire tragedy could've been avoided if Anaseya hadn't tampered with Torbin's mind*
I couldn't have predicted this nonsense either. I tried to think as stupidly as the writers, but I failed. The events that transpired instead are so bland and dismal that it can't even be called fan fiction. The biggest story of The Acolyte is the money. It obviously didn't get spent on the show. Not the effects, not the props, not he sets, not the directing, and certainly NOT the writing. Embezzlement is the only option that is left. Something, besides the writing, seriously stinks here.
Maybe its all a Scam, getting cheap ESG Money and let the product fail on purpose for tax write offs or something along the lines.
Suddenly its makes sense, why someone would hire people like Headland and Stenberg :D
Been looking forward to these reviews way more than the Acolyte episodes.
It was well worth the wait. Excellent review.
I’m not even watching the episodes this is more than enough, LP suffered so we don’t have to! 😂
When May rushes in yelling "Fire" she says "Help me!" Not "Help Osha!" "Save Osha!" or "Osha is trapped!"
It's just "Help ME." 🤨It's not a natural way to talk, given the circumstances.
It’s like in episode 5, when she very pointedly doesn’t say “Sol killed our mother! Not me.” Because she has to very carefully choose her words in a way to avoid spoiling the reveal.
I don’t know how anyone in their right mind can think Master Sol did anything wrong here. The lady turned into a giant smoke master, didn’t communicate what she was doing or that she was willing to let Osha go.
I just don’t get it. All of that buildup for the supposed mystery of why Mai is out for revenge and all I got was one stupid twin setting fire and leaving her sister to die and one of their moms turning into a smoke monster, have Master Sol attack her and have the show have the NERVE to make her say she was going to let her daughter go with him.
It makes NO SENSE.
"I was going to let you take Osha, after I devoured Mae's soul--why didn't you understand that?"
Horny Mom turns into a smoke monster and then spent the next 16 years not finding or communicating with her kids. After she, more than almost anyone, initiated the fight that got everyone killed.
"How foolish you were to come, Jedi. I suppose you are here wondering if I would ever let my beloved daughter be raised by your wretched institution, that will obviously collapse upon itself and is doomed for genocide, instead of her loving family."
"So, that's a no then?"
"What? Obviously I'm going to let her go with you, why would you think any differently?"
"Can you at least ask your wife to stop brandishing her weapon at the young padawan you violated earlier?"
"I'm sorry, but it's the only joy she has in life."
In fact it is NONSENSE
The Acolyte: "The Jedi are totally corrupt and do shady things to uphold their heroic image, even wiping out a coven of innocent lesbians!"
_Also_ The Acolyte: "Apart from bouts of contrived OOC stupidity, the Jedi in fact do things very logically and did the right thing according to the very limited and conflicting information that they had about the suspicious witches who mind-raped one of their teenage members."
I swear they had the GoT guy kill himself not because it ever made sense in the plot but just because that's what he did in GoT.
We know Leslie simply watches other things to rip from or pick actors regardless if they fit the new role or not.
What a way to typecast an actor. Sean Bean is the 'gets killed' guy, DC Chapman might become the 'kills himself' guy.
Im so glad you do the lit student approach while also maintaining the limp wristed pettiness that disney uses against us. Fighting fire with fire XD
Allocating an animal to your character is something you learn in 1st year drama school. It is a good technique that many actors apply even late in their careers. Unfortunately, goldfish and guppy seem to be the choices made for Mae and Osha.
The bit about people so desperate to feel represented on screen they’d forgive truly awful stuff, resonated with me a bit. I got into a convo just a few days ago about a character from an unrelated work, who was staring down what was effectively a death sentence and was willing to do ANYTHING to save herself - in this case, including the wholesale slaughter of innocents. I found this repulsive, because why wouldn’t I… only to have someone who claimed to be terminally ill insist to me that the character was totally sympathetic, and that they too would do literally anything to save themselves if they could. Neatly glossing over the whole murder bit.
So, the guy who is havign a melty over a road trip for a few weeks, suddenly decided to spend 10 years meditating?... the disbelief must not only be suspended it must be fed to the shark jumping it
Well, he started that 6 years later, after all the trauma of that event and the guilt he inexplicably has. I don't think that's unreasonable, if we ignore the fact that he has little reason to be feel guilty and shouldn't have ever attained his rank.
There's more plot and character development in watching roaches wrestle each other for 5 minutes than there is in 8 episodes of Assolyte
O could imagine a better script by watching bugs fighting that whatever this show was
Bravo, was here for the live stream. Love when creators interact with their community. Always a good time with TLP. They did Tommen dirty by making him bald. The least they could've done was made it long in the back and bald up top. A skullet, if you will.
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2:48 i didnt watch the show but if the hornd witch survives shes probably going to be related to darth maul im calling it now
Darth Mom.
@@billjacobs521we’re on to something😂
The Acolyte's epitaph will read, "Nobody Cared."
I ADORE the idea of getting SO bored, you're about to embrace EVIL SORCERY cause at least EVIl SORCERY lets you go somewhere fun. Amazing.
I like to imagine that Torbin just spaced out through the initial mission briefing and was faking his way through the last 7 weeks too embarrassed to ask until his boredom hit critical mass.
"It's a sin, it's a sin, it's a sin!
Dr. Brodsky: Sin? What's all this about sin?
Alex: That! Using Ludwig van like that! He did no harm to anyone. Beethoven just wrote music!"
"I can grant you your deepest, darkest desires. Ask me. Ask me! ASK ME!"
"I want another Stellaris: Console Edition Dev Diary because I'm addicted and can't wait for the next update"
I have a theory that might explain the seemingly random and rapid changes in motivation of the characters in this thing. It could be that they are using the method espoused by Luke Rhinehart in his book “The Dice Man” in which the protagonist literally rolls a dice for every decision he makes and goes along with the outcome of the roll, whatever it is. Of course, the viability of this theory is dependent on the proposition that Leslie Headcase has read a book, so.
What was insane to me was that I had no idea where they were going after this episode. So it made me even more shocked and angry (I didn't even think I could still get angry at Star Wars, those OG and games have a tight hold on my soul apparently) when the 'climax' of the show was 'tricking' Saul into revealing that he killed one of her mums and then letting himself be strangled.
The entire time I was shouting "HE WAS LITERALLY SAVING YOUR SISTER'S LIFE YOU UNGRATEFUL BRAT!" at the screen.
I also wish a Star Wars show would make it more obvious that using the force on another force user is *hard*, and especially anything to do with the mind. I can even buy that a Padawan can keep from being possessed if he knows it's coming, but a master who wasn't aware can got if not careful.
What annoys me about Kel'naka's fight here, is it is literally the *perfect* opportunity to show that. Saul and the Padawan should be so *badly* overmatched in close combat that it should be a joke, but the entire time you should be able to see Kel'naka stopping his attacks and 'fighting' against control, going to rip someone in half, then tossing them away so he can't actually do that. And then Saul and the Padawan switch to using force powers because although a Jedi would normally block them fairly easily, his concentration is elsewhere and he can't right now.
*Then* Trinity can come in and maybe not even try to bring him to the ground, maybe just trust Kel'naka with a "My old friend isn't so weak at to let others control his mind." trying to show a bit of character history, then put a hand up to the side of his head and give a remark about helping him clear his mind before all the witches fall down dead like we see in the show.
I also thought the Jedi Wookie should have been resisting the witches' control, instead of being a complete puppet.
The way they were making a big deal about Osha putting on the cortosis helmet at the end of episode 6, I honestly thought the writers would be cool enough to pull out "Squid Game used your untrained power to warp your memories."
By putting on the helmet it severs his connection to the cantrip he was using to keep the false memories in place (and also his tracking beacon connection to her), and so episode 7 would be the true memories he'd manipulated to make himself look good and more of a reason for Osha to side with Smilo...but I forgot they were Acolyte writers for a brief moment.
So what you're saying is, it's just like Frozen meets Kill Bill?
that description still bewilders me, because I wish we got anything approaching THAT. that sounds like a great film to watch with a group of friends and have a few beers.
SPOILER
meets TLoU2
There is, yet again, more than the germ of a good idea for Torbin's motivations here. Torbin's bored _because what the Jedi are doing on Brendok feels unimportant._ The only major clue we're given about Torbin's background is that he was born a peasant; it's possible depending on how old he was when he was discovered by the Jedi that he has some fleeting memories of this extreme poverty, and perhaps like Anakin, he sees his duty as a Jedi to help the poor and downtrodden like his family...which is why he balks at the idea of playing in the dirt on some backwater planet outside the Republic. If what the Witch had manipulated was Torbin's desire to be special, to be a hero, that would have been a powerful motivator for him to kidnap Osha, especially if the show had actually acknowledged the Prophecy of the Chosen One: Torbin may believe Osha is that Chosen One and would see finding her as enough for him to get the clout he needs to pass the Trials and become a Knight so he can help the Galaxy as he sees fit.
Torbin also should've been the one to kill the witches, not Indara, and we _definitely_ should've dealt with the consequences of her basically doing nothing while her apprentice was violated. Torbin could've seen what was happening to the Wookie (who I'm not looking up how to spell the name of), seen his Master again doing _nothing_ to help his fellow Jedi (I'd have made the Wookie a Knight, not a Master; only Indara should be a Master since this is her show and it doesn't make sense narratively for Sol to be one when Indara spends so much time talking down to him), and taken matters into his own hands. Whether Torbin is wrong at this point is up to the audience, but it would at least give him a believable amount of guilt to feel when the _child of his abuser comes along later to make him feel bad he killed his abuser, her mother._ That's still an unforgivably disgusting take for the show to act like is somehow justified but looking at who wrote this and who it's aimed at I'm not at all surprised.