Obi-Wan Kenobi: The Failure is Complete
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- The final episode of Obi-Wan Kenobi debuted on Disney Plus this week. Every one of its best moments was stolen, while the rest was a re-hash of earlier instalments - proving there was never a reason for this show to exist to begin with.
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I still can't get over the writers expecting us to respect Reva as if she made a courageous decision not to pointlessly murder an innocent and defenseless child.
But but but it was so… err… brave?
@@TheLittlePlatoon stunning and brave
She cried a bit, though, so we should probably just, I dunno, automatically forgive her?
Her character is such a joke, it is so transparent and predictable.
The worst about her salvation...is like setting somebody's house on fire and then going back to put it out or rescue someone who's burning inside.
When you're the one who victimized them, so her character was useless, her storyline appalling and her tears DIDN'T move me, she just annoyed me.
They just don't know how to write a sympathetic villain. They don't understand that most of the audience are NOT evil, and therefore they can only connect to characters who share the same values as they do.
Vader using Earthquake implies he may be Ground type which explains perfectly why Obi's Rock Slide isn't very effective.
Holy shit, I didn’t think of that!
@@TheLittlePlatoon Don't worry, I'm here to think for you. I'm your personal Disney.
Unfortunately it doesn't explain why the fire stopped him in episode 3. As a ground type he should be strong against fire.
@@williamcronshaw5262 He may be Ground/Grass
@@Angrenost02 His ship is called the Exeggutor…
"Have you come to destroy me" asks vader after chasing obi wan down and walking up to him.
Literal hostile npc
“She would’ve murdered Luke if she hadn’t been beaten by her own baffling contradictions.” Sums this up very well
Member when Vader said "If 'ain't' ain't a word, why do blaqq ppl say it so much?"
Also, why does nobody point out the issue with how the Light and Dark side work here? Obi-Wan gains a huge boost of Force power when he thinks about how important Leia is to him, while Sidious says Vader becomes weak because of his hate and obsession towards Obi-Wan and should let it go. What the hell? I mean don't the Jedi train to distance themselves from their personal attachments to attain greater affinity with the Light side? And don't the Sith gain more power from their feelings of hate and resentment? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think Disney totally forgot how the Light and Dark side should work in Star Wars...
No it's just that Star Wars never really set firm rules for itself and the fans have always been more intricate and consistent with the story than the creator and writers. But to your point, Luke's attachment to his father and Vader's attachment to his son are what turned him back from the dark side just as his attachment to his mother and padme drove him to the dark. I think this is why fans were wrong about being pissed that Luke tossed the lightsaber in TLJ; Luke realized the Jedi were always wrong and their arrogance led them to being blind to the dark side being among them the whole time. Balance between attachment and detachment is what was needed.
@@BDraftProductions Well I'm certainly not an expert on the subject and you do have a point that the rules are not set in a firm way - far from it. But I don't think the Light and Dark side are polar opposites and turning from one means turning to the other. Vader acting on his "good" side shouldn't mean he turned to the Light side. I don't know much lore about force ghosts but I believe it is not established that only Light side practitioners can attain it. And if we suppose that Luke did have a realization that the balance between attachment and detachment is the way to go, then I still don't get why throwing away the lightsaber was the natural course of action. He should have been quite attached to the sword and it was also a very useful item. If we wnat to go down this route then this shows 100% detachment if anything. Instead, I think the movie (TLJ) wanted to show us how Luke simply failed at reviving the Jedi order and lost faith in himself after screwing up horribly with his nephew, so he went into exile as a form of atonement but also because of his deep shame, and finally turned into your everyday gumpy, pessimistic old grandpa. But if you saw an enlightened old Luke, strong with his conviction in attaining the truth and having a higher perspective, then I might really have to rewatch TLJ...
You're exactly right...at this point Vader should be absolutely trashing Obi-Wan in a duel. In Vader's eyes, Obi-Wan is the only reason he is now suffering inside that suit 24/7. To Vader, Obi-Wan is the only reason why Padmé is dead. To Vader, Obi-Wan defied him a pretty decent shot at killing Sidious and ruling the Galaxy himself. Vader positively LOATHES Obi-Wan at this point. He is a traitor and a saboteur, and he seemingly left him to rot on Mustafar for no reason. The feelings of anger and hatred towards his former friend & Master should channel EXTREME Dark Side powers into him, but we get this display of an emotionally unstable teenager finally mustering up the courage to talk back to his parents from Vader.
It made sense that Anakin was scared, confused and in deep turmoil on Mustafar. But years later, Vader has cemented his position as one of the six Dark Lords of the Sith, the Emperor's Iron Fist. They essentially just carbon copied their duel on Mustafar without the weight, tension and set-up. Clown fiesta.
@@BDraftProductions no, op is right. thats exactly how it worked.
fans were the ones that changed the force with grey and dark jedi. because they wanted to be a jedi without being a monk or being placed in the OT era.
but the facts are, prequel era jedi are like monks. u arent supposed to be totally attached to anything or anyone. nothing wrong with companionship. but when you are AFRAID to lose that friend, that family member. thats when ur emotions become dangerous.
And the dark side teaches how to use that fair, that hate, that resentment to make yourself more powerful.
that is exactly what separates the light from the dark side
@@Perehraad the last jedi is absolutely ass and what ruined disney star wars in the first place. Dont rewatch that garbage
Tattoine, for a back water, sand-covered, outer rim planet that, to quote Luke Skywalker, “If there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet that it's farthest from”, it sure has a sh*t load of important stuff happening on it.
It’s cause they already had the sets from past shows. Gotta save that money when you’re a multi billion dollar company.
And all because the ship in TPM needed a tune up.
The most powerful Hutt gangster lives on Tattoine. I believe Luke was a bit harsh to the planet
@@tyfoparalax8894 Jabba lived on Tattoine precisely for that reason.. I don't think Luke was being harsh, in the original film they definitely don't paint tattoine in a good light.
That was just a marketing ploy from Tatooine developers, who were marketing it to retireees.
I’m convinced they don’t hire bad writers. They hire “yes man” writers, those who are willing to give up the need to write something artistic and engaging and will say yes to whatever the executives need. We need baby leia to be the central character to set up our Teen Leia spinoff series. We need random ass Reva to occupy at least half the run time of every episode and not die at the end because we need to sell a spinoff. We need to have Hadyn Vader for the marketing. We can’t feature Owen too much because he doesn’t check enough woke boxes. The people who write for Marvel and Star Wars now have to accept that taking the job means you’re a commercial writer, not a creative writer. Any writer who adamantly disagreed with any of these caveats either wouldn’t have taken the job or would’ve been let go early on.
The showrunner for this show is a hack. He hasn't written anything that isn't shit. He wrote the awful King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. So he must have been really cheap to hire
@@kingdude1999 those are the only writers they’re going to get to agree to stuff like this. No legit established writer wants the job knowing all those shitty parameters they have to adhere to. But a no name, they’ll do it for the big credit and money.
You meant, "yes maam "
remember how many writers and directors k kennedy fired while making rogue one and solo, i think 2 or 3 for each movie, she will only accept yes women and ryan johnsons. she really has achieved a hostile takeover of star wars in which jon favreau is the only opposition
@@jonathanmartin3767 the force is female!! :/
I personally regard everything post-Disney Star Wars as non-canon. It makes things better.
I feel for you, my brother in pain. This show was such a dumpster fire, it killed the last bit of good will I had for Disney. It was the show that made me unsubscribe, and I forgave them for the sequel trilogy -- no small feat, I assure you, considering they killed one of the greatest sci-fi arcs in history.
Everything except things like CW and Rebels and the Mandalorian (hopefully Ahsoka will be just as great 🙏 ) and basically most Dave Filoni projects. He really respects George Lucas and his vision of Star Wars.
@@soggycereal1649 Except that Clone Wars began before Disney entered the picture and when they did they chose to cancel the show. The only reason that they brought it back was to entice fans that Disney drove away to sign-up for their streaming service.
Most of Rogue One is ok. There's only one broken plot device from memory and it breaks one insignificant line in the OT. I think it makes the Death Star flaw potentially more believable
EU is forever gonna be better than Disney canon. Even if it has a lot of questionable stuff. It had one thing that Disney’s Star Wars doesn’t, actual passion from the writers and respecting the story and the fans
"Hey remember Qui-Gon? Here he is for a 20 second cameo. He can't be around much longer because you might remember how he died and people in this show walked out of the same wound like they just fell down or something"
I'm still confused that Obi Wan's tiny ship was able to make the lightspeed trip Tatooine almost instantly and make it there in time on the same night as Reva almost killing Luke. Using a hyperdrive doesn't immediately make one arrive at their destination but rather can take hours or days depending on distance.
Time? Distance?
How dare you expect actual story telling with coherent sinew holding the story together.
Unfortunately, hyperspace just hasn't worked the same way since 2015. It's broken in a new way every movie/show.
Yeah no, since Disney took over it Magics you across the galaxy instantly.
The writers must think hyper drives are teleporters.
All the tie fighters in the galaxy must have been in their respective hangars getting oil changes during this entire series.
The producers must've had TIE hangover ... "I told you: it's the rule! No tie fighter scenes in this show! Not a single shot. I don't wanna hear those fake engines ever again."
It is very obvious that TIE Fighters would have ended the show several times over. They knew it too.
That´s the reason they only deployed Star Destroyers with the Party hold package instead of the 72 TIEs, 8 (armed) Lambda Class Shuttles and 15 (armed) Imperial Troop Transports.
Or they were soaking in dull colored bacta tanks
Maybe there was major recall. LOL
My wife, who normally gets on me for groaning at bad writing, was even saying things like "so how many light sabers are buried on that planet, fuck at that house?!?!" and "why the hell hasn't anyone shot or stabbed Reva, she just chased Luke into the desert, he looks dead, why are you all just standing around?!?!?" XD her reactions almost make this show worth it
If a beam of ultra hot light been pushed through your abdomen doesn't just kill you outright then I don't know what will. Flynn got a light saber up the spin and thewe was no blood. Two people in this series got light sabers right through the belly which houses your most vital organs apart from the brain and they survived. I wish I lived in that universe weren plot amour can save your life.
Oh I forgot, I'm not allowed to speak sense because if I do I will be called a bigot or something.
It is possible the writers took a lightsaber to the brain and survived. It would explain their scripts.
The grand inquisitor has canonically multiple stomachs and Reva got her organs replaced with mechanics similar to Anakin in ROTS when he replaced his cut-off arms and legs. Any other questions? You are absolutely allowed to speak "sense" but it actually has to make "sense" Don't act like you have valid points when you clearly haven't even watch all the starwars.
@@adamjanek3511 The aorta also runs through the abdomen too so unless they got multiple sets of mechanized aorta then both of them, Reva and the Grand Inquisitor, would just go into shock and die from massive blood loss 🙃
@@ironman3090 so you're saying there's 100% certainty that the saber went through aorta? Even if so, they could get mechanical replacement, we actually do this in real life too it's called AA grafting or maybe even surgical repair (prosthesis) is possible. My father is a cardiologist and he actually sometimes does these procedures.
@@adamjanek3511 I’ve not heard of an AA grafting before. Do you mean the cardiac bypass procedure? Even still, I’m not 100% sure that it hit the aorta but it did go through what seems like the spine (hard to tell since it’s a side view shot) and with the thick diameter of the lightsaber there’s a high likely chance that it did hit the aorta. Still, even if they had their arteries replaced with mechanized versions it wouldn’t be able to deflect lightsaber blows would it? Reva, in this case, would still need an extra set of aorta to keep her blood pressure up or most of her vital organs would shut down. On the other hand, I believe that the grand inquisitor would have survived if he got immediate aid which I assume he did since he didn’t immediately chase after Obi Wan.
Let's not forget that Qui-Gon said that most people in Mos Espa were moisture farmers, so the chances that a lot of the people in Mos Eisley are moisture farmers is quite high... and yet space moses finds the exact farmer she's looking for immediately.
As a long time female SW fan...thank you. You took the words right out of my mouth. It is SO patronizing to see that the only way these shows know how to make a female character strong is to knock the male character down. I rolled my eyes when Beru "takes charge," in part because her plan is wrong (running away is the best course of action against a Sith), secondly that she magically knows when Reva will attack, and lastly, that Owen--who has always been shown to be the more authority figure in that house--has a deer in headlights look on his face. Seriously? I like that he fought Reva despite his crappy odds but there was no need to make him look like a confused idiot.
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Tiny nit pick on my part but Reva is not a sith. The rule of two prevents this. ;P
@@jackanarchycr7826 It's only a "tiny nit pick" now; because, we don't have a choice.
Legend! Couldn't agree more!
It is sad, that these sjws at lucasfilm think the only way to have strong female characters is to make male characters inept. Think it has more to do with man hating than anything else.
Theres been many a prominent female character in star wars stories that didnt need to tear down men. Everything pre Disney. Princess Leia, Padme, Ashoka Tano, master Shaak Ti, Mara Jane, etc etc. Ivejust completed fallen order through the 1st play through, and it's a good star wars story, that doesn't need to make the male characters dumb or inept to make the female characters seem stronger.
Obi won series just sucks as bad as the sequel trilogy!.
Leaving Vader broke canon beyond repair. The entire point of the OT was that Luke needed to be trained because Obi-Wan and Yoda failed to kill the greatest evil in the galaxy and it was his job to right their wrongs and bring light back again. But now that's not the point of the OT. Obi could've prevented the destruction of Alderaan, the death of billions at the hands of Vader, maybe giving the last of the jedi a fighting chance against the emperor who held no apprentice, and hence, the need for Luke and to wait almost 15 years for the Empire to fall wouldn't have been necessary. Now Luke had to train, millions more had to die, the rebellion had to be formed, all because obi wan was a fucking pussy who didn't have the balls to kill his friend WHO HE CLAIMS WAS DEAD at the end of their fight. This entire show was a fucking waste of time that should have not existed.
Well said!
Yet, you watched it.
That’s what people still don’t get… If 10 million people watch an episode, the networks (or studios) don’t get a report saying: “two million people loved the show and eight million hated it”.
RATINGS ARE RATINGS!
The studio doesn’t say: “Aw, shucks! We’ve made a billion with “Rise of Skywalker” but 80% of that came from people who hated the movie”.
Disney doesn’t give a rat’s ass whether people are enjoying Star Wars or not. As long as people keep watching these things, that’s cash in Disney’s pocket.
And guess what…. EVERYONE keeps hate watching these atrocities.
It was fucking cool, who cares about 'breaking canon' if it in your words 'dosent even matter'
It is Kathleen Kennedys attempt to further push her " the force is female " philosophy. She is doing this while trying to break George Lucas cannon and diminish any strong well loved Legacy characters all to introduce her own characters that she thinks will be better like Reva. KK is doing this to actually try and become looked at as the genius that George Lucas is. Its sad.
@@flabbergasted7237 well Disney certainly found their edgelord audience in you. Look forward to you telling how cool the titular Reva show will be.
If Obi Wan as powerful as they made him in this show, what is the need to wait 10 more years to train Luke? The whole plot of the original trilogy is that Luke is the "New Hope." Only he (and maybe Leia)can defeat Vader and the Emperor. Well Obi Wan just defeated Vader. He now knows that there are other Jedi out there and how to find them. Why would he not kill Vader and he and Yoda find and train the other Jedi and go after the Emperor? Now the whole plot of the Original trilogy makes no sense.
Yep, this is exactly right. Why would everyone need to wait around for Luke to grow up?
This series made Vader out to be a massive loser...getting tricked by nonsensical ploys and getting absolutely destroyed by Obi-Wan. I can understand Obi-Wan leaving Anakin on Mustafar to an extent...but a second time? He knows Vader is hunting him and the remaining Jedi. To kill the Empire's second-in command would be a huge win, yet he doesn't? IT MAKES NO SENSE.
Thank you!! Vader losing AGAIN in this fashion makes no damn sense.. he’s not a threat anymore because kenobi always has upper hand. Kenobi is supposed to need luke to beat vader and the empire, a new hope. Vader should be pretty much unstoppable and have kenobi running for the fences needing luke.. show makes no sense at all
Vader had to win the fight (which is normal since Obi-Wan shouldn't be able to beat him at all at this point) and it would have made a lot more sense with continunity.
100%
Character writing like this makes me appreciate how well written my own life is.
To give the writers credit, they came up with a brand new side of Darth Vader's helmet to be broken open during the final battle.
Which was taken from Rebels.
@@the-point-bearer6689the joke went over your head, OP joked that it was "original" because this time it's the other side of the helmet.
When Vader says "and that is why you will always lose" I immediately said "because good is dumb"
like the scene with the Weapons officer.
Vader: uh, who made that man a gunner?
Offcier: i did sir, He's my COUSIN.
@@MLPDethDealr32 "I knew it- I'm surrounded by assholes!"
@@ethangonzalez8904 "Keep firing asholes!?!" Like disnoids will defend this shite of shows...
"what is name?" "He's an asshole, major asshole."
When Reva stands over an unconscious Little Luke (who ran away) with her lightsaber ready to strike, it’s like poetry.
It rhymes with the other contrived, predictable, banal shit we are trying to forget from Disney.
BRU OFCORCE SHE DIDENT KILL HIM BECAUSE HE IS THE LITAL MAIN CARICATURE OF THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY ALSO, HER CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND PDST HASE COUGHT UP TO HERE AND SHE DECIDED TO CHANGE HER WAYS. This was a good show so stop being toxic for no reason
@@finntobin4533 besides the vader vs kenobi fight it really wasnt a good show. If the rest of the show had been up to the quality of the fight then yeah it would have been a good show.
@@finntobin4533 YOU HAVE YOUR CAPS LOCK ON
@@lambosnicko Even duels were clumsy like the sequels; way over powered, which doesn't fit within the saga, shaky cam, which isn't the Star Wars aesthetic, bland music and dialogue, and *done better* in Rebels.
This show had zero ideas of its own, and created more holes that it claimed to resolve.
@@Ruylopez778 🤣
I feel so sorry for all the life long Star Wars fans... I will unfortunately know how you guys feel when Rings of Power comes out😞 that will be the first time a franchise I’ve adored since I was a child gets brutally fucked in half infront of my eyes
Annoyingly, LotR is my close-second favourite franchise, so I get to see *both* the things I love getting wrecked by morons!
It’s not getting ruined. You just can’t handle a single flaw in a show even if it’s completely freaking normal and happens in every show.
Ya ever since I watched the phantom menace I was adicted to star wars and watching it fall from glory in this way is soul crushing
Yep, anything Disney touches they destroy.
@@DarrylErickson Oh, we all are able to handle a SINGLE flaw....but we all know it won´t be just a single one, don´t we?
I will never acknowledge this show as canon. What they did to my boy Vader is unforgivable.
THANK YOU for saying what needed to be said. Videos like this one are the only thing that offers hope that intelligence is not completely dead. May the Force be with you.
Kenobi's ship was a prototype, it didn't have a hyperdrive it has a plot-drive which creates a plot hole the fastest form of transport, it gets you where you need to go and get there when you need to not a moment before. hehe, good job again, cannot wait for the rap up next week.
This comment cracked me up.
They also used said prototype plot-drive in game of thrones. Much faster than horses
And there's actually a sequels easter egg in this show; this is the same ship that Rey uses to escape from inside the Supremacy throne room to however the fuck she gets on the Millennium Falcon.
Actually, this is the ship from old SW canon that was grown on Zonama Sekot for Anakin. It just magically appeared because it knew his young’uns were in danger.
Reva mustve found one in the ship vader tore apart😂
Apparently, when Vader's mask is damaged, he goes right back to saying "didn't", where Vader would always say "did not". It's one thing that his voice changed when he became Darth Vader, and explaining that with the helmet. But the damn helmet does not explain his syntax changing! I don't think I've ever heard Vader using a contraction.
Very good spot, I missed that!
Good catch
Yes i agree but that goes back all the way to the prequels casting Hayden Christensen, whose speech pattern and accent does not match james earl jones, so you can’t really fault this show for that, the damage was done a long time ago lol.
"it is useless to resist, DON'T let yourself be destroyed as Obi-Wan did"
"there is no escape, DON'T make me destroy you"
Empire Strikes Back
@@bartistclord1916 oohhh good catch
The fact that palpatine suggests that vader holding on to the past weakens him is stupid. Palpatine literally made Vader’s suit painful and clunky so he WOULDNT forget his past and his failure to kill Obi Wan thus strengthening him and his anger
He said that to poke fun at him, to fuel the rage in a way
@@flabbergasted7237 I can buy that. But at this point I just can’t tell if that was actually intentional on the writers’ part.
@@purpleemerald5299 So it's an issue because you don't know?
@@inf3rnal_embers145 Never said it was an issue. I’m just unsure of to what extent I can even credit the writers.
In the Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Centre.
A lightsaber wound would be absolutely catastrophic. It vaporizes and burns all flesh involved. This show singlehandedly retconned how deadly lightsabers are/were.
Fuck Disney.
I remember seeing an excuse for Luke Skywalker not knowing what a lightsaber was - he simply repressed his encounter with Reva, it was too traumatic. Yes, that was a real excuse.
What a dreadfully convenient series of events
These people need to understand that not everything that makes sense in the real world is good for story telling. Sometimes you have great amazing dreams then you wake up and it was all just a dream. "it was all just a dream" happens in real life but it's a shitty trope to use in movies.
Which would mean he wouldn’t be excited to see one even if most of the time he didn’t remember Reva’s, it would bring it back surely.
@@xenon8117 was about to say that. Subconsciously he would fear lightsabers. In particular ones with a red blade
@@d4arken3ds0ul I have a fear of dogs, all dogs even small ones. I do not remember why but I was always told a big dog barked at me as a toddler and burned that fear into me. I do not remember this event and it has been so deeply ingrained it has been ruining my life, there is no way Luke reacts with excitement when Obi Wan shows him it, that fear is deepy embedded now.
16:40 Obi-Wan gives Leia Tala's Blaster holster. Tala sacrificed herself using a Thermal Detonator, while still having her holster. There's a reason they're call Thermal Detonators. The reason being of course, they function via a Thermonuclear reaction.
Conclusion. Tala's holster should be nothing but smoldering ash.
I did wonder that myself! How the hell did the holster survive the explosion?!
@@TheLittlePlatoon The writers had a D & D moment and kinda forgot.
So in the time it took for Obi-Wan's escape from the two stormtroopers to the point where he re-entered the hangar, he had time to rummage through the corpses and debris and found her holster. Why? To have a souvenir for Leia?
Also, for a grenade that works via thermonuclear reaction, how come the tunnel hasn't caved-in? Before Tala's suicide run, I thought it was plausible that stormtroopers don't want to toss grenades for fear of a cave-in.
@@neocomp92 Rowan is the one who grabbed the holster, suposedly
@@Good_Boy_3000 So Rowan snuck out between the time Obi-Wan was taken and his return, and he rummaged through the corpses for her holster? Doesn't he have better things to do, like the hangar roof? 🤔
Not only was Kenobi fortunate enough to find a planet, but one with a perfectly breathable atmosphere.
LOL too true, and there are so many of them out there... 😂
Good point- also, and this extends to all of SW, how can a planet with no vegetation have a breathable atmosphere?
And with gravity just like earth
To be fair this is Star Wars we had small asteroids and Air and Gravity since Empire.
This franchise was always very silly on which space rocks can and can't sustain life.
With no need for a droid to test the atmosphere either.
This is where the fun begins.
I think that it's where the fun ended...
@@TrigonAZR It ended in 2012
@@IsoSubject5 the end of the world
Hahaha Hayden
Just visualizing that concerning awkward smile in my head 🤣🤣😂
The imitating the Grand Inquisitor was hilarious 😂
I always thought it was so funny how badass they tried to make Luke's aunt seem in the face of a SITH yet they end up burned by storm troopers that can't even hit a target that stands still.
I like to believe its hilarious foreshadowing; they got killed because she spent years insisting attacks only happen at night.
I know people are gonna try and counter argue Reva's terrible arc by using Vader in ROTJ.
Vader's redemption arc is through Luke's perspective. Anakin gave his life to save his son reassuring Luke that there is good in him.
"Strong Wamen" characters just means poorly written female characters and it should be stated as such. These "strong wamen" characters aren't strong just projected power in a pathetic manner.
Strong wamen are basically men in these shows. That’s the only way they know how to write them.
@@jv-man3698 Ill-mannered and hot-tempered men at that.
This is where The Little Platoon is being disingenuous. He seems to want to avoid being lumped in with these other creators by proposing a "better" criticism of these "strong wamen" by ignoring the nuance of the criticism.
The "strong female character" trope is not a criticism levied at all female protagonists or other female characters. No one is saying this of Sarah Conner. The criticism itself implicitly only applies to those female characters or leads who are "strong" for no reason supplied in the story or with no other defining character traits. They are often portrayed with masculine traits, such as physical strength, combat prowess, and stoicism but without any other character development. They just exist as they are and never change. Therefore, these being badly written characters is implicit in the "strong wamen" criticism.
Yes, as you said, they are poorly written characters, but they are poorly written in a specific way and generally with a specific purpose in mind by their creators, which is also an accusation implicit in the criticism. The criticism is much more specific and detailed than simply saying they are badly written because you want to look like you're saying something different.
The people who attack those that levy these sorts of criticisms aren't going to make an exception for you simply because you used different words. You're still criticizing their choices and that is already enough to be on the wrong side as far as they're concerned.
When they were running out of time & Obi-Wan had to surrender himself, so they could escape *two episodes in a row*, it was almost as cool as when Leia got kidnapped & had to be rescued *two episodes in a row*. Absolute top-tier writing.
#RIPStarWars
Yeah, it's like nothing actually happened. The only thing that I can think of that has changed since the start of ep1 and the end of ep6 is basically the death of an imperial office who was a defector/rebel in disguise (Tala).
Stop bitching. Don't watch it if you don't like how it is written.
See the two hour Kai Peterson edit. It does Star Wars, Kenobi and poor Ewan, and even Reva justice. He cut out the insufferable chasing Leia nonsense and the repetitions. I highly recommend it. It should be canon.
@@thepagecollective George Lucas said that Obi-Wan & Vader never met between ROTS & A New Hope, so to me, this is not canon. Nothing personal against you or anyone else who disagrees.
@@PimpNutz37 Given the choice between this and the series, though? Because technically, whether we like it or not (UGH!) the series is canon. Unless you are abandoning Disney ST altogether, which I would not blame you.
"Failure is not the end. It is a necessary part of the path. Hope will always survive in those who continue to fight. [...]"
- Jedi Master Eno Cordova
How is it that Fallen Order released in the shadow of Episode IX had a better story? And now, three years later despite a shameless rip-off in one episode, it *still* is the superior story? I thought stories should improve in quality as time passes, but that just shows how archaic my thinking is, I guess.
@@neocomp92 Just look at Trilla and how she behaves and acts. That alone is allready miles better than Reva.
And yes, the stolen fortress part had me in disbelieve. That was so blatant.
I'm in my 30s and can still remember when I was 10 years old. It's just plain unbelievable that Leia wouldn't remember Obi-wan. Ridiculous. They did not need to involve either of the Skywalker twins.
"There is no excuse for using two scenes to do what you can do with one."
Like most modern creators, they always think they're going to be the next big thing and get infinite time to flesh out their ideas.
I grew up with Star wars in the 80's. It seems that all the love and mystery from that era is gone now. This Disney/Star Wars is the end of all that magic.
I think it still exists - for characters Disney haven’t touched yet. Ironically, the magic kingdom sucks the magic from anything it comes into contact with.
I myself grew up with Star Wars in the 80s , and I'm happy to read someone shares the same thought as me . I suggest people who never read Star wars comics made by Stan Lee in the late 70s , to get their hands on them . they are better than any sequels or prequels , they tell the first trilogy differently
@@tunkunrunk How about the Thrawn trilogy or Dark Horse's Republic, Purge and Legacy comics ?
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I've just read, that success of the original "Star Wars" saved Marvel financially.
@@_Dovar_ saved Marvel financially ? how ?
Vader/Anakin is supposed to be - " the chosen one" and a master swordsman....... Yet he hasn't even mastered how to successfully poke someone with a lightsaber? You'd think he'd be pretty accurate with it by now? After literally decades of using it( killing people). As Anakin he failed to kill a defenceless unarmed little girl, even after she was impaled by his weapon that would instantly kill anyone else, and can turn a reinforced solid metal doors into dripping molten metal, within seconds? Then year's later you'd think - Ok, by now Vader has finally figured out how to use his lightsaber accurately (Nope.) He failed to kill her again? for the second time, and in the exact same way? And again the writers give no explanation for how something so impossible and improbable could happen, twice? Then "Reva" of course successfully and predictably survives to the end of the show, where she is lovingly embraced by Kenobi with open arms, and told she's great by him? Apparently only Caucasian and alien younglings can be killed by a lightsaber......It's almost like a bunch of complete morons wrote this show.👍
Being fair, being the chosen one is insignificant next to the power of plot armour.
Exactly👍
Erm, anakin was turned into a quad paraplegic piece of toast, and your complaining about a little poke? Grevious was turned into a goddamn bionicle, obi wan had his pelvis detonated by a railing in his and anakins final fight against dooku and maul got turned into a bad pizza cutter commercial, and dont get me started on palpatines survival, so a little poke from a saber isnt all that much in the grand scale of survivable star wars injuries
Erm, I think you've missed the point? I'm not complaining about - " a little poke" I'm saying the character of Vader/Anakin wouldn't fail to kill the same person to different times in the exact same way? Due to him just being incompetent? And Anakin may have had his arms and legs severed and turned into a burnt piece of toast, But he was basically magic, and also literally saved by the Palpatine and had a suit constructed for him to live in? So where is the explanation of how Reva survived being impaled by a lightsaber, two different times by the same person, and all she needed to do is just rap a bandage around her waist and she's fine? Do you notice the difference between her surviving anything with no explanation at all? And all the other characters you mentioned that actually had in-depth back stories explaining how they survived. You obviously have to explain.
Reva only survived magically because SITH Kennedy created her character and wants to give her a show.
Sith KK feels, states, "females are the force."
That Grand Inquisitor impersonation was uncanny. I almost thought he was in the room with me. Amazing performance 👏👏👏
Reva was annoying, overacted and completely irrelevant, but the Grand Inquisitor was a HUGE failure, a disappointment, hardly intimidating and a very weak characterization.
@@staroceans8677 "He-llo"
Dennis: "Would you like a spot of tea?"
Mac: "Yessss (flourishes with the pinky)"
It make me chuckle!
That, along with Moff Tiaan Jerjerrod asking Darth Vader if he's a f***ing idiot!
Well done again, sir.
I'd be scared more of the pislbury dough boy then that grand inquisitor!!😜
One of the things I hate about the new force powers is that it completely invalidates the terror felt when you see Vader force-choke someone or Palpatine shoot lightning. Those were supposed to be the most intimidating moves of two of the most powerful dark side force users, but now we have people shooting mountains at each other while sharting out lightning storms so large it cripples an entire fleet...
Owen and Beru supposedly had this grand defense plan, then tell Luke to just run, in a desert with no where to hide. No actual plan like telling Luke to run and hide in the canyon within walking distance that somehow exists now but doesnt years later when Luke is looking for R2.
Like maybe you could justify it as they dont want to know where he goes in case Reva reads their minds but they dont know she can do that because she conveniently forgot she could do that when she interrogated him in ep1. But then Owen and Beru just give up trying to stop Reva and wander out in the back yard yelling his name when he's trying to hide from Reva who is right behind him but cant catch him but knows where he goes but still cant find him. And no one thinks to follow the footprints in the sand.
And I'm literally losing brain cells trying to make coherent sentences of this nonsense. Idk how you can make a whole video lol
Their grand plan was to set up a couple of cans tied to a string around the farm and have owen sit at the top of the stairs with a blaster against a fucking Sith Lord
Where are the Darklighters when you need them?
This Kenobi show really makes you appreciate the OT and the Prequels more, doesn't it?
Also funny how Ashoka breaks one side of Vader's helmet in their fight, Obi-wan breaks the other side of Vader's helmet in their fight, I wonder what's next? Next person who beats him (who will probably be Reva in her spinoff show....) will break the middle part of his helmet so only his mouth will show? Then next time they only break the very top of his helmet? I wonder how many ways can you break Vader's helmet. What if we would just poke little holes into the eyes of the helmet and draw a smile on it with a lightsaber? Surely they can't overdo that...
holy shit dude I’m crying 😂
As flawed as the prequels were, they were light years better than the s***storm that followed.
I cant believe they are making shit bad enough to make people think the prequels were good…. Thats amazing to me.
@@jo2522 They're not. Nothing Disney has made Star Wars wise is nearly as bad as Attack Of The Clones and The Phantom Menace and if anyone thinks otherwise, they're certifiably insane. Period.
That would be great if only his mouth shows. Then he could go to Mordor and become the Mouth of Sauron 😂
I will say that Luke did meet Ben at least once growing up.
Luke:“ I wonder if he means old Ben Kenobi”.
Later in the movie Luke knows who Ben is after being saved by him
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Tell me, young Luke, what brings you out this far?
Luke: This little droid. I think he's searching for his former master. I've never seen such devotion in a droid before. Ah, he claims to be the property of an Obi-Wan Kenobi. Is he a relative of yours?
I always assumed Luke interacted with 'Old Ben' off and on during his 19 years of life. Always against Owen's better judgement.
@@RonW4684 Probably teaching him simple, unsuspicious things like "trust your instincts"
Wich explains why Luke was a good pilot and laid the foundation for his later training with the force.
That and maybe some glimpses of Obi-Wan making his preparations to enter the force under Qui-Gon's tutelage would have made a good, somber show.
@@RonW4684 Exactly. I think that's the show we ALL would rather see. They had an opportunity, a golden opportunity to link Star Wars in a meaningful way to a problem in the real world that would actually be in keeping with canon too...PTSD.
Kenobi is a Clone War veteran. He's lost everything. Sure they glossed it, but it could have been the centerpiece of a deeper story.
How does one keep going after losing purpose? They could've dribbled in more and more of a curious Luke when that crazy hermit Old Ben comes into town for supplies or something. It's a psychological story, not a pretty lazer swords one. But no, we can't do those. All the SW marketing elements have to be there. Every. Single. Time.
The fight between Vader and Kenobi seemed way too similar to the Ahsoka vs Vader fight.
dont forget half of the scenes in the base being ripped directly from fallen order.
The excuses fans made for this show were wild and the goalposts they gave moved further every episode.
I almost spat my drink out when you started this ridiculous Grand Inquisitor impression :D
My dissapointment with this series in immeasurable and my love for Star Wars in ruined.
Mine has been since TLJ
There's still plenty to enjoy that came before. Don't let that be ruined for you. You have that choice.
@@ioncewasmikey
No. Star Wars is dead and will not get anymore of my time or money. Under disney all roads lead to TLJ.
@@jokersdisciple8771 K. I'm not losing any sleep over it, just FYI. Personally I think it's silly to let bad entries in a classic series affect your enjoyment of all that came before, but that's your prerogative. Have fun with that!
It's been irreparably ruined since The Phantom Menace but I still kinda enjoy it.
31:49 This. This is why I've always hated the term space wizards and preferred to see the Jedi and Sith as monks or a type of swordman. Thank you for covering it.
Yeah that annoys me as well, people describing the Jedi as space wizards. When you see George Lucas in interview he has long declared that the Jedi are the space version of the Samurai. And that the Jedi also live like monks. So space samurai or monk is more fitting. Or even knight as they are actually defined as in the films.
@@ronniepassley4156 the Force is still a magic system and they (Sith and Jedi) are practitioners of that magic system. So they do qualify for the term space wizard. Even it's use is reductive to the point of being contemptuous sort of like calling lightsabers laser swords. It's...technically correct.
I call them space priests: all faith, no sex, going around with children a bit too much. Thanks I'll be a Sith and live my human emotions
@@WhatAreTheOdds5050 I don't know why the gratuitous MCU jab when MCU has been a pretty good source of quality for 10 years (up until endgame). You have movies like civil war depicting 2 ideologies clashing and saying things about those 2 ideologies. Good luck finding anything like that in "black knight fights hero who wants to save the princess... But with laser swords"
I can give 1 credit to the show. I discovered your channel because of it. I really enjoyed your previous videos on this show so just keep up the good work 😁👍
Glad you found us, too. We’ll do our best!
@@TheLittlePlatoon me as well, and I'm looking very much forward to the new Jurassic Park critique.
@@TheLittlePlatoon same here! You’re awesome
“They’ve turned the force into Harry Potter magic!” just broke me.
Ya know this isn't mentioned at all really, but during the fight between Obi-Wan and Vader, Vader force holds Obi-Wans' lightsaber and has a clear advantage over Obi-Wan, but yet bats the saber away instead. This is twice Disney has done this move and I don't know why they think it's cool.
Even the line "then my friend is truly dead," is stolen from Luke in Return of the Jedi. Luke says to Vader "then my father is truly dead."
Its a neat call back, but it makes this all feel cheap.
Good spot!
@@TheLittlePlatoon thank you.
Makes you wonder how many of the "call backs" in this show were actually just rip offs from other shows, or to run cover for the mistakes of other shows. One of the criticisms of Rey was her being able to lift all those boulders to save everyone, now they can say Kenobi established the ability. See she's not a Mary Sue after all.
All the fanboys on Reddit will think that's actually so deep, instead of a complete ripoff.
@@FordHoard And that is why critical thinking is so important.
Cannot believe I missed obi Wans ship suddenly having hyper drive, well done pointing that out.
Praise the maker…you so eloquently verbalized what I could not about this thing they called Obi-Wan…subscription well deserved sir!
Welcome aboard!
Your Grand Inquisitor impression is absolutely fabulous!
I shall never tire of the Grand Inquisitor impression ar 18:05. Genius.
so i guess jedi are super human now, giant rocks just break against their skin, and why use a lightsaber when you can just terraform the ground and throw massive boulders. and that creepy moment with Kenobi and Leia XD, and now we are led to believe she just kind of forgets who he is?
Lightsaber is the most ingenious creation of Lucas a.k.a the "big shot"(meaning banta pudu).....but plasma saber will be a bit more accurate coz light can't be restrained.... lightsaber duels r my favorite moments from the original(almost perfect)saga....to understand why there is need for duels one must play SW game....
Did you watch the episode bc if you did you would know kenobi was hold the rocks with the force. Also vaders suit is made out of tough material
.......if you know about star wars then you know there's something called a force shield. You can toughen yourself with the force
The thing that really pisses me off, is that some parts, some aspects of such failures like "Kenobi", Disney "sequel trilogy", last seasons of "Game of Thrones", some shots, takes, scores or scenes - are pretty good, valuable and are wasted by being used as a part in an overall terrible movies/shows.
It's like putting a really good engine on a half-sinking, rotten, wooden rowboat.
Exactly. It’s worse for the potential it’s wasted.
Its ruination of the lore and characters cannot be understated. I'm done paying for Disney Wars.
Yea, the problem with these hyper-competent women characters is that they’re portrayed as so overly brave and thorough that the plans they wind up coming up with turn out to make NO SENSE-happened in boba fett when fett wanted to fight the final battle in his palace, but the “strong” female girl said she won’t ruin the city or some shit (even though that’s EXACTLY what wound up happening); the last Jedi-with the purple-haired librarian commander who-for no reason- told NOONE her brilliant, master plan to save everyone (which makes NO sense); happened in the rise of skywalker, ren offered to take Rey to Palpatine like 30 minutes into the movie-but NO, she was too independent (even tho that’s EXACTLY where she wanted to go), only to basically go to the emperor at the same time as ren two hours later.. and now with EVERY female character in this series, who can beat all males up, outthink every male from stormtroopers to Vader himself, and have more balls than Jedi and common men alike.
As someone who’s never scene the cartoons, that scene between Anakin and Obi WAN really got to me, it made me emotional. Now I feel cheated because they just took that from somewhere else? The one good scene is still creatively bankrupt 😑
Please watch clone wars and rebels they are so much better than this show
YES INDEED !
I love this channel!! While I’m watching the show I will have concerns about certain scenes and situations and then I can watch this review and see that he has the same issues but can explain very succinctly why the scenes don’t “feel “ right. Excellent content!!
Glad to hear it!
When obiwan was buried by the rocks I was thinking how stupid that would be as the reason why Vader gave up looking for obiwan for 10 years. But then obiwan survives “beats” Vader and just dips, and that’s way fucking dumber than just having Vader assume he was dead squished by rocks. I also wonder why Vader can’t simply sense that obiwan is alive and using the force to hold up the rocks when just a few scenes before Vader could sense obi wand every movement
That is one of the few things that made sense to me. The Emperor is telling Vader to not longer be distracted by Obi Wan, and focus on the grand plan (serving him). As Vader says, Anakin is dead, and he has severed any connection to Obi Wan. “the mentor of some guy I murdered” is just not that important compared to ruling the galaxy.
In all that nonsensical nomsense in every other beat, this made sense.
@@Anerisian Mmm, no. Recall that the Empire also knows of a Jedi smuggling ring. And Obi-Wan Kenobi is perhaps the top 3 most wanted Jedi next to Yoda. Even if Palpatine wants Vader to not be emotionally distracted, he still has a professional and logical reason to kill/capture a legitimate thorn to his rule. For all they know, Obi-Wan may have linked up with the rest of the ring or escaped Jedi and is now plotting a revolt.
@@neocomp92 Exactly per this show Vader's mission at that time is hunt down and kill the remaining Jedi because the Jedi's existence is a threat to the empire. Hence the reason for order 66. Obi Wan would have been high on the list of most wanted regardless of Vader/Anakins personal feeling about him. So the Emperor telling him not to pursue Obi Wan anymore makes no sense. If anything the Emperor should have been pissed he keeps letting Obi Wan get away.
@@redplanet5857 he leaves TWO force users alive.. fucking reva. so dumb
he leaves vader alive and then tells luke he’s the only one who can destroy him. uhhh what! why didn’t you do that when you had the chance?
Aunt Beru had blue eyes... The original Aunt Beru was the spitting image of my dear grandmother, and so I had a particular fondness of her in A New Hope and seeing that character in Obi Wan has just been a catalyst of all the things I hate about Disney Star Wars.
You closing monologue brought to mind how MauLer's RUclips success first took off. It was immediately after the theatrical release of The Last Jedi and he released his 'An Unbridled Rage' video in response, and since that opportunity he has really done well. You have a very similar view on these subjects, and you are both very articulate in expressing to us (and for us) why we reject these things and what it is that makes them so depressingly abhorrent. Never look a gift horse in the mouth, I look forward to seeing more of your channel in the future.
TL;DR - I agree. Good luck, great video!
Thanks very much! I’m very wary of milking it for views - there are a few Star Wars channels out there that put out fifteen thousand videos a week and say absolutely nothing. But, as mentioned in the intro to this one, there are a fair few things that I just haven’t had the space to go into yet, or that wouldn’t have fit in the context of a review, so there’ll definitely be one more video covering those. After that, who knows!
You do know that George himself cast Bonnie Piesse as Beru in the Prequels right?
@@turtleislandlac1490 and I was just as annoyed then but forgave the oversight due to it being new Star Wars that I could enjoy with my own son like I had with my father when I was his age, plus she didn't feature so prominently. There were a fair few 'choices' George made during the prequels that didn't sit right, but I was just happy that Star Wars was being revived on the big screen.
Disney just seems hellbent on shitting all over established canon and taking cherished moments from pre-Disney era and trying to make them reliant on their own amateur story writing.
My friend and I watched this show together about a month ago and one of the things I kept repeating throughout, half sarcastically, was "I can't wait for her redemption arc." referring to Reva and her unbelievably forced character interactions.
There is one thing I have said I want since Disney acquired Star Wars and that was an Obi-Wan show. I love the character, to the point when I greet people online and in person I use the "Hello there" with the goofy inflection from episode 3. Unforunately, this show was such a betrayal that I wish it was never made, and I doubt I'll ever be genuinely excited for new Star Wars film/TV.
I think I'll just stick to my classic games and movies.
Screw this series. Vader orders the entire ship to turn around for Obi-Wan, letting the rebels go, (instead of using a magnetic beam, or sending tie-fighters, or just keep firing...)... but ends up getting into his shuttle and flying after it himself , thus missing out on the rebels for no reason at all. Obi-Wan trusts Leia to some random rogue who has already seeded his transmitter...
The duel with Vader is miserable. They wave their swords like baseball bats in episode 9, and the Force has generally turned into an anime - they crush rocks and make craters in the ground, but they can’t break each other’s bones in the same way ... they can withstand the blows of multi-ton boulders ... Obi-Wan, without jokes, becomes a god thanks to the power of friendship and lifts weight much more than Yoda ... at some point he hits Vader with the HILT of the sword ... cuts his back, but that doesn’t paralyse him ... and most importantly, he doesn’t finish him off for the second time, although he himself said his friend is dead...
Vader does not call the cruiser to shoot down Obi-Wan's ship, but it turns out that he has a hyperdrive, which makes the whole last episode even more pointless, since he and Leia could fly to Alderaan on it all this time already at the end of episode 4 .. .
Owen and Beru do not set any traps for Reva in the doors, they only shoot her one at the time, do not catch up with her on a speeder, do not evacuate on the speeder, do not call the local police, the same Jabba the Hutt (with the promise of money), and Luke is advised to run on foot into the desert, to the Tuskens...
Reva with a hole in her HEART can easily fight, run and carry weights ... And finally, she, who cuts off the hands of all those who disagree, throws knives at people, kills everyone in her path, hunts the Jedi trying to kill them, tortures a 10-year-old child , suddenly cannot kill Luke, because he sees himself in him (but not in Leah) ... by the way, why? Does she know he's Vader's son? How?
And Obi-Wan forgives her, although he saw what she was doing and Tala died because of her...
Now the whole Empire knows that Bail Organa communicates with Obi-Wan, they are looking for him all over the galaxy, but at the same time Obi-Wan quietly flies to Alderaan to chat with Leia...
Obi-Wan communicates with Luke, although Owen told him in A New Hope that he died at the same time as his father ... Qui-gon, it turns out, can appear without any meditation, but the whole series did not do this ...
As a result - Obi-Wan, Owen, Beru, Bale failed their missions to protect children, and they are only alive because the Empire and Vader are even more incompetent, and Reva suddenly became kind ... and now we are waiting for a series about her ... Thank you Disney, now you've ruined every single character in the original trilogy. Star Wars is long dead, and there's no more room for nails in the coffin.
We think alike!
Well said sir, you managed to put into words my exact disappointment about this whole series, star wars is dead, and the series ended with return of the jedi.
because he was conflicted with obi wan. Darth vader is most powerful when he is calm and not emotional the show showed that lol! He was conflicted with obi wan and he was conflicted with Luke.
Y’all are ridiculous
@@ajcics please elaborate
You did the grand inquisitor voice. Thank you! The wife watched that part twice. Your review was outstanding again.
I always like satisfying wives!
@@TheLittlePlatoon 😆😆😆
@@TheLittlePlatoon Savage :D
I find it interesting that Disney has the rights to all of the starwars library since 2012. The Kenobi Legends book is a worthy candidate to make an Obi-Wan show, heck even a movie trilogy from and KK says, "there's no source material."
I would think the business that purchased a fan beloved franchise would surely use the already established lore to base films and shows on and definitely let the person in charge know that. But no, Disney is blinded by their greed to be an entertainment empire rather than do the right thing and follow that story
they want to replace all of star wars with their own characters. notice how there’s almost no more aliens? it’s all humans. new characters suck or are exactly like existing characters (mando) and then destroy the original (boba)
There was the material for a trilogy, in fact. Obi Wan appeared in a few The Last of The Jedi novels, helping Ferus Olin. And he fought future Sith Lord A'Sharad Hett aka Darth Krayt.
@@yrooxrksvi7142 Yeah, that would be epic if they did use those resources. Outside of Kenobi, Darth Krayt would of been a really good villain for the sequel trilogy and that could of led into the yuuzhan vong invasion. Or something, you know.
@@sofaizsly4031 Anything from the EU could be fantastic show or movie material. Look at the Republic comics with Quinlan Vos, or Legacy, hell, even the KOTOR comics have a story as good as the games.
Instead of this nonsense trash Disney churns out.....The bar is set so low, people think The Mandalorian is the best thing since sliced bread when it's just serviceable.
@@yrooxrksvi7142 100%.
Great impersonation of the Grand Inquisitor. I got the vibe that the actor was trying his best to come across like a discount Bane from Batman Begins. Wasn’t impressed.
I truly feel for the girl who played Princess Leia, she was such a delight but was handed such a bad IMO part.
I can feel your anger… it gives you focus, makes you stronger. Hell at this point with Disney… all of George Lucas’s fan would be a Sith… from my point of view.
one thing that's really been bugging me about this series, the series obviously shows that although he won't admit it, it's very much still anakin in a suit, he fights on emotion compared to the OT, yet considering they took this approach, I cannot believe padme wasn't even mentioned, in my head that wouldve made a very good idea on how Kenobi could best him in a battle, use his love for padme and make him fight too much on that emotion, a bit like what he did with his arrogance in ROTS
Trolling Vader would have been good.
padme was referenced when oni wan and leia were in the back of the troop transport
The grand inquisitor impression is hilarious (I had to watch it at least 10 times) and completely worth this review (which is awesome btw)!
Nobody expects The Little Platoon Inquisition. I love that voice you do so much.
So apparently while you’re being shot at by a Star Destroyer you can escape in a shuttle…because that scene in A New Hope where Star Destroyers have a specific gun crew with life scanners for tagging escaping shuttles didn’t happen (?)
Episode 1 Leia kidnapped
Episode 2 obi rescues her
Episode 3 Leia kidnapped
Episode 4 obi rescues her
Episode 5 not enough time obi must surrender and be at the mercy of reva
Episode 6 not enough time obi must surrender and be at the mercy of reva
Episodes 1-6 Vader is incompetent
"It's like poetry so they rhyme"
Oh man! How much I miss George Lucas, this Disney era is like a toxic love. Can't live with it, but without it neither
I new Obi-Wan series was going to suck, but had to see it anyways
"I will do what I must."
"I have failed, Anakin. I have failed you."
'"Well then you are lost!"
"You *were* my brother, I *loved* you."
Obi-Wan already came to terms with Anakin and forsook him in ROTS. So the scene with him and Hayden with the crack in the mask, as decent as it was, had no reason to exist. Would have been much better had they adressed the morality of Obi-Wan abandoning Anakin to the flames of Mustafar rather than execute him.
Seeing his face again, put yourself in his shoes, anakin was not just his brother, but his son, in a wierd way, imagine his pain. He did what he could
Anakin seen in that helmet would have awoken every emotional wound kenobi had previously closed.
It’s easy to decipher if you use your empathy to put yourself in his shoes.
@@flabbergasted7237 Obi-Wan literally left Anakin to burn to death, forcing him to suffer one of the most painful deaths there is, rather than show mercy and finish him off like a Jedi should. And in the OT, he did everything he could to get Luke to kill him. Even when they met on the Death Star, there was no hint of remorse or regret from Obi-Wan.
Again, he faced Anakin, the emotion and psychological trauma surrounding them, and said goodbye at Mustafar. There should be nothing but bitterness and Jedi resolve remaining should they meet post ROTS, which is exactly we get in ANH.
And what do you mean by "he did what he could"?
@15:00 Yeah but also, Aunty is proposing to fight an inquisitor with Force Powers while she and Uncle have blasters. Like, do they not know what they're dealing with? Imagine someone telling you Darth Vader is coming to your home to kill your kid, and your wife’s response is, "we're going to stay and fight him! Here's a blaster, take up positions!" Like WTF woman do you want to die??
Maybe *that’s* what happened off-screen in A New Hope. A whole battalion of storm trooper showed up. Uncle Owen said, “right, we’d better run,” but Beru is like, “nah mate, come on, we can take them!”
@@TheLittlePlatoon Goes against "Beru's Bushido" you know the rigid warrior code of the stoic warrior clan of the housewife's clubs of the moisture farmer cult of Tatooine.
lmaoooooooooooo the grand inquisitor sounded exactly like that impersonation lmao wow im in tears lol
Obi: I want to train Luke.
Also Obi: Lemme just hide my lightsabers in the middle of the desert. Not like there are scavengers here lol.
And really guys?? You expect me to like Reva just because she didn't kill a child? Didn't realize that not killing a kid will absolve you from all the crimes you've done. Well done for giving her praise Obi!
I do not understand how people can even attempt to defend this show
Because it’s good and y’all cry about everything
@@bradywalton1380 who's crying? Sounds to me like you're the one crying that anyone dares to have a negative opinion of a show you like :)
@@CorruptShark says the one currently crying to me 😂😂
@@bradywalton1380 🤨 sounds like someone's projecting 🤔
@@bradywalton1380 What is good. Tell us. This will be funny.
I hope Disney watches this!! They need to fire all their writers and Kathleen Kennedy. Thank you for your great content.
22:35 The Larr's perimeter alarm to detect approaching evil.... Oh!
And the cameraman with parkinsons.
Brilliant!
I just watched this. Your impersonation of the Grand Inquisitor was both unexpected and completely awesome.
Obi Wan really knows how to push Vader's buttons.
I see what you did there!
Vader addressing the purpose of the show and the feelings of many a viewer.
"Kenobi means nothing".
What an atrocious mistreating of Darth vader … #ripstarwars #notmyvader
This Vader was so talkative, he just couldn't shut up.
Atrocious "mistreating" of Vader, did you not watch the Prequels? LOL
@@_Dovar_ Vader talked a lot in the OT.
@@turtleislandlac1490 r u a Clown
@@digga7200 Waaahh! That's you
I’m almost sad there isn’t more of this show simply because these videos have been so entertaining, honestly fucking hilarious mate
11:26 lol is brilliantly executed with the editing in order to say, "STOP THIS NOW SHOW!" 🤣 😂
I can imagine the theme of this episode is that fee fees are more important than one's professional duty. Obi-Wan and Darth Vader letting the other escape is the quintessential example. But also, Obi-Wan lets Reva go despite her cheap redemption and the fact that telepaths exist in this universe. There is no guarantee that Reva is the only one with that ability, nor is she beholden by some oath to keep the secret of Luke to her grave.
I can't overemphasise how much Obi-Wan's character has regressed thanks to this final fight with Vader. As part of nostalgia, he says "I will do what I must". In ROTS, this is the climax of his dilemma when he learns Anakin has turned to the Dark Side. He is torn between his duty as a Jedi and his emotional attachments towards Anakin. He even tried to trade targets with Yoda. So when he said this line of dialogue, it was him affirming where he stood on the subject and thus his intention to kill Anakin. That carried him all the way to the lava banks of Mustafar. The duty of serving the greater good outweighs one's personal feelings.
But here, thanks to how the fight ended, it effectively turned the message over its head. Although poorly established, the writers seem to suggest that Obi-Wan's guilt in killing Anakin is what has thrown him into his "depression". Now that he has a "second chance", he has chosen his *personal feelings over* his own duty. Sure, people may argue about mercy and not striking down a downed opponent, but mercy was what left Anakin burnt to a crisp and transformed into Vader. Mercy in this case is entirely selfish since its beneficiaries are only Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. The true cost of this mercy will be borne by the galaxy for the next 14 years. But that doesn't bother Obi-Wan since only his fee fees matter, and he has completed his "journey"(?) of not giving a hoot. And remember, nine years from now, everyone will return to their starting positions of wanting to kill each other. Except Luke is now involved and -groomed- trained for that purpose.
When taken in its totality, this is a story of lazy Obi-Wan Kenobi. He is too lazy to protect Luke to the point of burying his lightsaber and forgetting to train. He is lazy in his duty as a Jedi, if not just a decent "hero" in sparing Darth Vader. His power-up moment is memories of Leia, implying that his 10 years protecting Luke came and went in tepid boredom and apathy compared to the few days he was with Leia. He is lazy in letting that loose end Reva run off. And now he is lazy by dumping the task of protecting Luke completely on Owen and Beru's shoulders despite the fact that 12 hours prior, they were about to get him killed. It's a surprisingly flat character arc with a slight downward incline for Obi-Wan despite what this show tries to argue to the contrary. And it just doesn't mesh with Ben Kenobi we see in Rebels or ANH.
I would like to hear your final summary next week, though I have a particularly dim view of any "average" rating. Make no mistake, at least one sober Disney exec saw this product and thought that "average" was the best they are going to achieve. And so 5/10 might as well be 10/10. Worse, it reaffirms the formula that memberberries are all that is needed to placate SW fans. The instinct to praise mere "ideas" despite the rubbish execution is the twin brother to the legions of fans desperately writing over plot holes in an effort to maintain the illusion of "positivity", the mirage that the product is much better than it actually is. Until people stop compromising rubbish like this show because they cannot control their thirst for more SW product, SW will never improve. Be like Obi-Wan Kenobi in Mustafar, who upheld the greater good over his own feelings.
I believe I mustered a whopping great 1.5/10 on a livestream recently. The fact there *are* some ideas worthy of praise actually counts against the show, because it just further emphasises how much potential was squandered.
I couldn't figure out how Reva made her way all the way to Tatooine while, at the same time, the refugee ship is still being chased by Vader's star destroyer...a star destroyer with apparently zero tie fighters or a tractor beam. FML.
I think that’s partly explained by the broken hyperdrive, but I still have no idea where she got a ship from to begin with!
@@TheLittlePlatoon expect a Reva limited comic book series (as a lead into the inevitable Reva solo series) in which her escape from the planet was to commandeer the sister shuttle nested into the star ship that Vader savaged in ep 5.
@@TheLittlePlatoon There are star charts and speeds of different hyperdrives. That flight should have taken her around 2 weeks with the faststest hyperdrive (unmodified).
But hey, scale is something they just don´t bother anymore anyway.
I was going to say, the criticism of strong female characters is often about how they have to make the male characters incompetent or inept in the same scene.
“You didn’t kill Anakin, I killed him…from a certain point of view”
There is no chance Obi-wan would leave Vader for a 2nd time. No matter the Canon, Obi-Wan realizes what leaving Anakin alive did to the Galaxy.
The saddest shit is that Obi-Wan on Mustafar clearly acts like Anakin is gone, and Palpatine is at least partly responsible. We previously saw him calling Anakin arrogant, and we saw Anakin being arrogant and impatient. He talks about Anakin in past tense before leaving him to die of his burns. There was some nuance because he admitted his failure, but also knew Anakin had been consumed by Vader, i.e. more than one emotion; guilt, anger, disappointment, resentment, pity were involved. But screw all that, here we need to resort to merely guilt and self pity, which both get magically resolved by a single line of dialogue. And then he says, "Darth", and people like Stuckmann talk about how it connects the trilogies, improves the prequels for him, and explains the expressions Obi-Wan uses in ANH.
How are there people who claim to love Star Wars that are impressed with this? Did they not understand ROTS? Did they not understand those characters and the choices they made? Deborah Chow said that the prequels were a love story between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and that implied there might be some degree of thought in this, at least more than the sequels. But it seems like she (and Harold) didn't even understand or didn't care what the CLIMAX on Mustafar had to say about these two men and their complex relationship. I'm baffled. I can only assume that these people actually dislike the prequels, and think the people who watched them are stupid, and therefore anything can be stupid and nobody will notice or care?
Isn't it obvious? Stuckmann is trying to break into filmmaking and likely wants to work for Disney one day.
Stuckmann was always a sellout.
Glad you called out the puzzling stance of chris stuckmann. Im shocked that he actually loved kenobi as much as he did
"Deborah Chow said that the prequels were a love story between Obi-Wan and Anakin"
Good Lord, now I realise why this whole scenario looks like two lovers falling out. I think the point where you can see that the writers didn't understand ROTS was when Obi-Wan said "I will do what I must". In the movie, that's the watershed moment where Obi-Wan's dilemma between his duty as a Jedi and his emotions and attachments towards Anakin had ended. He chose duty, and that carried him through to the lava banks on Mustafar. It was painful, but necessary. The greater good had to be served over his own personal feelings. That message was repeated in TCW with Satine's execution.
Now in this show, it dares to reverse the message. By leaving Vader alive, the message is that one's personal pain supersedes the greater good. That if given a second chance, one should choose their own feelings and attachments. How very anti-Jedi. And extremely selfish. Obi-Wan and Vader are the only beneficiaries of this mercy (which many fans seem to fawn). Meanwhile, the actual cost is borne by billions across the galaxy for the next 14 years.
@@neocomp92 very well spoken mate. The problem is Disney Star wars is nothing but bad fanfiction, and the more retcons they do the damages the OT trilogy the more I'm convinced that eventually we're going to get that dreaded remake of a new hope.
I know a lot of people have said the final nail in the coffin, but this has to be it, they've completely destroyed Obi-Wan kenobi, princess Leia and worst of all Darth Vader.
i could not belive he just let him live right after saying earlier in the episode that one of them will die
All they had to do was to bring reinforcements in before Kenobi kills Vader. Either that, or have Vader collapse a couple of those stone pillars, giving him time to escape. There were so many other stupid moments like that, where a small change would have made it so much better. For instance, why did Reva wait until the ships were gone before attacking Vader? Why did she scream like a maniac before striking, instead of simply sneaking up behind him and igniting her lightsaber through his chest? There was literally no reason for that, and yet, they chose the most moronic option available. It just feels like it was stupid on purpose, tbh.
@@jirkazalabak1514 u would think somebody who waited thier whole life for this encounter w vader wouldn't just randomly decide to attack him at a completely nonsenical point to just die and come back to life so the encounter was for nothing cause she doesn't even pay the consequences