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When you read out "The Future of Warhammer III" my heart skipped a beat. I was not looking at my phone and got baited into Vietnam Flashbacks.
The future of 3kingdoms still haunts my dreams
Belated and accidental April fools from Legend.
Now you Warhammer fans know what it was like. But since it wasn't Warhammer, you guys didn't care
@@kaiseramadeus233 😢
@@Eskeletor_210best Total War with the biggest developer betrayal
it will signal the end "Times"... I see what you did there LEGEND !!
He wasn’t being very subtle but I appreciate the leak haha, hopefully CA handles the End Times better than GW did.
ye, it would make sense too
@@carsonnesbit1178 I just hope they decide to make Grimgors ending from the first End Times canon where he gives Archie a good ol kick in the nads. (this was retconned for the disasterpiece the end times became)
@@NathanHarrisStudio i agree completely, for me, the biggest missed opportunity in the end times was that they didn’t include a scene where Grombrindal kicks the absolute shit out of Malekith and finally fulfills his ancient oath of vengeance, could’ve been so badass.
Him saying that made me think Nagash.
Legend Of Total Journalism
The Thrones of Delay are finally coming to an end.
it was a khorney pun
They worken on more content that's better for us stop complaining
The split of the DLC into each race is an unexpected, but very welcome change. It seems unexpectedly consumer friendly
Don't let it distract you from the fact that they are still charging the same $25 price for the DLC after the pre-order discount. Even with the pre-order discount, it's still $4 more expensive than brand new race packs used to be that came with 4 lords, an entirely new roster + set of faction mechanics and a map expansion.
@@azeon562 That is unfortunate, but honestly I'm way too tired of shit life's giving me to make another ruckus out of it. It's how business works, and if we don't like it we'll have to vote with our wallet to tell our story to the marketing teams. Like Legend says, we can't have it all. Personally, I think I'll start with buying the Empire part of the deal, because that's the faction I'm most interested in (provided the expansion is any good of course) and honestly I really appreciate the option to buy the DLC in parts.
In one way yes, but it's still the same overall price. What they are saying is we know you can't afford to spend this much in one go, but now you can just pay for it over three months instead
They should do it with Shadows of Change as I was only interested in Tzeentch content. With Thrones of Decay I am interested in all 3 factions so unlucky..
It's not consumer friendly. At TWWH2 times you could get all content for 10-15$. Now CA «generously» offer you to buy third of content for 10$
I'm willing to bet the last dlc of TWW is Nagash and the End Times.
Also, super hyped about Tamurkhan!!!
The next next DLC is Khorne focused, if that is truly the last then we will never gain Nagash because sodomite baby blood drinking devs let Workshop do that for them.
iirc the games were released in inverse chronological order so we already have the end times, it's wh1. Weird decision honeslty, but I guess they may not have planned to do a trilogy initially?
for sure they'd be missing out on easy cash if they never do Nagash. There"s a great mod at least for wh2 that did a pretty dang good job at it
@@orionzeden It's the correct order. It's not a narrative, it's just expanding on the map.
3 games were agreed before we knew the first game was even being worked on.
@@orionzeden the main game campaigns are. Immortal Empires is just sort of a sandbox campaigns with a different continuity.
The first game was the end times
"it will also signal the end... times."
🤔🤔🤔
probably nagash
Archaon, clearly.
@@Dianbler yr trolling its Nagash obviously
Good news. My main concern is about Empire update, and its extent. They need overhaul of old content in addition to new units. Technology tree, skill trees, faction mechanics…
make them a fun faction to play.....................
I am not too hopeful for extensive or even meaningful changes to existing content. Tzeentch's tech tree and Kairos skills had very insignificant and frankly bad changes with Shadows of Change.
@@zeb857They are fun... only with Karl. The EC mechanics doesn't work with the others (immersive breaking).
@@GermanOlle Only 1 other lord has the elector counts mechanic, the other two have their own mechanics.
So true... they should make a crusader paladins unit. It should have some flavor text like "cleansing the realm of disgusting and low intelligence heretics". It should then be the most powerful infantry in the game.
They should introduce Toddy like they did Boris Ursus as a campaign incentive for finishing a campaign as an empire faction.
There has actually been a leak pointing in that direction ..
Wasn’t he the reward for doing a Khazrak campaign back in Warhammer 1?
Red Duke too. Wouldn’t be that hard.
I always assumed the WWI game would basically be a glorified playtest of the engine updates needed to make 40k TW happen. Weird if it turns out the WWI game is released later, and maybe even a sign that Sega wants it treated as an actual game in its own right, rather than a beta-test.
Total War Saga: Emperor of Man's Time in the Trenches
Can't wait for the George Patton Lord pack and have him solo the entire Western Front
@@favre4ever39oh man this got me good hahaha
@@favre4ever39i call for Sir Adrian Paul Ghislain Carton de Wiart as legendary hero
@@favre4ever39 My legendary Lord Nicholas II has a weird wizard follower assigned that gives -4 public order faction wide wtf is this shit
That Dwarf rework better not come up SHORT!
SHORT?!
"Darksidecookies2145 head for using dwarf and short in the same sentence"
Book of Grudges
*SHORT!?*
hope the dlc isn´t to small
SHORT!?!
I suddenly remembered today a time when devs at CA used to play tournaments and hang out with the community on streams. We had dogbert and ben the salt king and others. What happened since then? Why are there no dev at CA willing to play their own games and chat with us anymore ? It's like all the good people in their company have left or something.
Or the toxicity of people make them stop engage with cavemans.
They are the first to get fired.
Only the 20th Karl Franz campaign? Those are rookie numbers. You gotta pump that number up.
I used to just play the empire. But over time I’ve played other factions. High elves, Kislev, grand Cathay. I absolutely fell in love with the Chaos dwarfs.
The old world will burn in the fires of industry!
Chorfs are goated
Havnt played ewmpire once
I have about 30 extra factions with mods, highly recommend. No need for dlc.
Play a lot of EMpire recently, and I'd LOVE for the current mechanic to go bye bye.
With his release, the entire Total Warhammer will finally come to an end.
Such is the power of Nagash.
"...the entire Total Warhammer will finally come to an end."
And with it, CA's access to my wallet. Consequences.
@@BloodwyrmWildheartlike they care they will move onto 40k and rake in the cash😂
@@Charliestrife01yeah 40k is bloody bank, even if it's a mid game.
@@Charliestrife01 I am not sure a total war 40k will sell. it will attract neither all total war players, nor DOW players. but somewhere in the middle. thats a gamble. either all in or bust.
@@nvmtt1403 warhammer pigs will buy anything that features their beloved characters
That's a lot more than just Thrones of Decay news x.x
Yeah legend just casually leaking the next tw being ww1 and then threatening to leak all the next dlcs if CA pisses him off like the skaven-mafialord he is. And I have 6 more minutes to go...
Oh yeah the 40k part...
I know its been rough with Total War and the Warhammer series specifically but damn am I gonna be sad when it all ends. Brought me many great memories.
thrones of delay news hints to us the there might only be a few more DLCs after thrones of delay featuring only two races per pack.
RIP TWW 3 then, poor start, poor middle and some rotten way of an end
Probably two more dlcs after tod.
Then CA will move on to next thing.
Honestly don't care. Maybe I'd have a stable modlist.
I really don't want more content just bugfixes.
@@SleepyGaming-ie9fb Just because they don't have another game to monetise, doesn't necessarily mean that it is worthwile to continue with WH3 dlcs.
They might also put those resources towards finishing that new TW sooner.
@@jibbanibba2000if CA abandon it early it'll have a brilliant end with teams like OVN free to do whatever.
20k players everyday
Thrones of Delay may not lead to the Decay of Warhammer 3. Not completely sold on their pricing idea(no pun intended), but the idea of being able to purchase the races separately is a really good idea to allow people to get what they want and not what they don't.
I think the break-up of their major DLC's is one of the best decisions they ever made, it's too bad they paired it with the massive price increase of all of them across the board. Legend said it here, $9 used to be the price of a duo-lord pack, now they're offering us 1 for the same price and expecting us to say thank you.
@@azeon562 Exactly, the idea is good but the execution is not. I'm not sold on the price side of the idea, hence why I said I'm not completely sold, we're getting one lord for the same price of two lords for the previous games. That's my real issue with this. It's a good start, but we're not quite there yet.
@@azeon562 To be honest you're getting more stuff for that one lord/faction than before. It used to be just maybe 5 units and that's it. That + inflation and I'd say it's not too bad. As long as the content is actually good in quality too, not only quantity.
@@azeon562I did the numbers and it goes something like this(including lords and heroes) :
Before:
12 units for 9 dollars
6 per faction
now: 28 units for 23 dollars
9 units per faction, costing 9 if bought separeted
If you buy the whole pack then you DO get value, if not you kinda get screwed. Even with the posterior 15% discount from steam
@@kubka4 You should stop defending multi-million $ corpos who are trying to use inflation as a shield to justify price increases. CA earns more money every year despite rising inflation, and if their bottom line ever actually gets hit they issue massive lay-offs like the one Legend recently talked about to keep trending up. They also offer similar pay for their positions as they did 5 years ago, so aside from staffing increases (which were working on other projects anyway) and higher executive bonuses they're not paying much more to make WH3 vs WH2.
Couple that with the fact that 80% of the new DLC will be using existing factions with already made assets and no new map update means that the new DLC is not 20% more expensive to make than the old race packs were, despite them charging you 20% more. Their numbers don't add up,.
Now I don't have to corrupt my hard drive with Nurgle or manlings
I just want a Medieval 3 Total War where you get standalone expansions for different parts of the world that can be eventually combined into a large world map like with Mortal Empires.
I would love that too but this is the 2024, not 2004...
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Empires Darth Mod
I think Miedieval 3 is gonna suck ass with the new engine. Imo the way they do battles in the newer games is really trash, it's just not satisfying to watch battles, unless they fix that, Medieval 3 is gonna suck.
I am a little concerned about totalww1 just because I feel like that conflict is a little too railroaded. Ideally I'd prefer to see a game like that span from 1848 so events like the Crimean war and Italian and German wars of unification can play out, and allow you to diverge a little from the history, set up alternate alliances and give more opportunities to tip the scales, which would help allieviate my concern that every time you play it could feel pretty much the same
Honestly pretty surprising to hear that 40k is coming before WW1. Seems like it would make more sense to develop out the systems required for that kind of ranged combat with smaller titles before attempting something as ambitious as 40k.
40K is gonna mostly attract only 40K players while WW1 will probably attract more people so I think they want to perfect WW1 by learning from 40K. Some 40K players are already interested in history anyways so they'll buy the WW1 game regardless. Either that, or they want to make sure they can milk 40K Warhammer fans since if they release the WW1 game first and it sucked, no one will buy their 40K game.
@@adambrandei think you are vastly underestimating how popular 40k is.
@@adambrande WH2 was by far CA's most successful product despite the licensing fees. 40K has a much larger fanbase than WH Fantasy, which was a dead franchise until CA re-popularized it.
@@adambrandeWhen it comes to historical wars and their popularity, WW1 is just as niche as any other setting for any other TW game, and (as others have said) when it comes to WH settings, 40K is FAR more popular than Fantasy. The only historical war setting that has a noticeably broad audience appeal is WW2.
@@adambrande Lmao WW 1. MORE POPULAR THAN 40k. you are a crazy historic fan
8:50 end TIMES? We gon' get an Endtimes DLC?
If not, then it's 'just' Nagash
End Time DLC was kind of obvious, like how else would you end warhammer fantasy?
@@florians9949I wouldn't take it as obvious considering that the chronology of the three games is reversed. Game 3 Ursun roar leads to the destabilization of the Great Vortex in game 2, leading to the End Times in game 1. Making an End Times DLC for the game set the furthest away from the end of the world in the timeline doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
@@markusala-turkia3079 this game does not have a story lol, only setting
They have to be able to sell the Skaven one more time to finally save this game
@@colef2222 Ah yes, a Thanquol DLC. The most powerful and incompetent Grey Seer of all time.
it makes sense considering that WWI and 40k will have similiar mechanics like tanks, artillery, battle fortificiations etc but still it looks like a saga WWI game or something close to napoleon - no diplomacy, short time period, linear campaigns. dissapointing if true
The need to put hero dueling from 3 kingdoms in 40k. that's the only feature i'd beg for.
this dlc really needs to be a banger all of those 3 fractions need serious help and i hope it wont follow SoC rework = more units, papa nurgle, dawi and empire needs much more than that
But we already know that it will be as lazy as possible
@@kabahr6517no we don’t. There have been banger dlcs and there have been bad ones. All signs point at this dlc will most likely be very good. I mean if it’s bad that’s basically it for the games rep and ca’s rep.
@@kabahr6517then the game may be left to the modders sooner than anticipated.
No imperial guard as a staring faction in 40K???? This is heresy
they were not gonna have no space marines and having 2 out of 3 factions allied would kinda suck
Empire 2 set from 1800 to 1920 would be neat IMO, and quite literally a sequel to Empire which was set from 1700 to1800.
I will admit after reading this I feel kinda optimistic. I know there are factions that I enjoy quite a bit more than others, so if in the future this pricing model with the smaller packs takes off, it'll make me happy to just get the stuff I know I'll get good use from.
Still holding out hope that one of the next two DLCs addresses my poor lizard bois and their geomantic web 😭
Totally agree and love your talk about the price of the individual lords, about give and take.
Another Person was basically crying about how it was not WH2 pricing.
when they say Chaos and Space Marines for 40K that can be so many factions, when looking to 40K Table Top, for Chaos there are the Prime Chaos Space Marine aka the Black Legion, the Thousand Sons, the world Eaters and the Death Guard, and the 5 others for the Imperial Space Marines there are so many Dark Angels, White Scars, Space Wolves, Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Ultramarines, Salamanders, Raven Guard which from the Base Spac Marines a small alterations and they can make so many of these factions it makes perfect sense
vanilla, all vanilla, generic ultramarine captain (because who would pay for ultramarines as a dlc!) versus generic chaos marine captain versus generic ork nob
@@sumoking3002 or we'll just get the most known and bought miniatures as factions, with no mechanics whatsoever and then we'll get the more niche chapters with cool mechanics, cause 'fuck you'
Yeah most of the successor chapters just exist for alternate paint schemes. Only a few are distinct enough from their parent legion to get their own rules. Black Templars (who's gene connection to the Imperial Fists is questionable) are a good example of a second founding chapter who got their own rules.
@@mr_clean91 yeah the Black Templars i can see as one of the further DLC packs, but the point is, as wit the Empire in Warhammer it is a very easy way for them to have multiple factions in the game from the start isn't it. and they just change the colour scheme of them
They'll have a really hard time selling any space marine dlc factions imo.
It's nothing a modder won't have done a better job on by the time it's out. Considering they're just a recolour with a bonus with meltas/whatever there isn't much to sell.
Races are a different story, and probably €30+
Thanks for the post. I, too, think that what CA is doing currently is in the right direction and I think it's good that we give them the benefit to wait and see what they produce. It's also good that you remind people that the old prices are long gone, nothing is as cheap as it was even a few years ago, IP included. So, thanks for the info and thanks for trying to keep it impartial and supportive.
8:49 the end-WHAT???? NAGASH?????
we surpass nagash!
8:50 LOL! Thanks for not spoiling it. What a legend xD
Also, I don't mind 40k. It's all about if its fun or not. I'm scared because total war games aren't that great for 90% range battles with futuristic weapons, and CA has been horrible at innovating and making creative advancements to the real time strategy scene. So the trust is 0. But hey, if they do make a good game, they can restart the franchise again, and I'm all up for it. 0 hopes though. Also, adapting the 40k setting, that is even more crazy and wild than War Hammer fantasy is going to be harsh, unless they completely change the setting. How are they going to deal with the power and unit size dynamic unless they completely nerf everything?
Honestly the splitting idea was perfect. Lets them keep their price point without seeming so heavy handed and gives the players a better chance to try before you buy (the rest of it.) Impressed they took an amicable path out of that one.
Great discussion as always, Legend. Nice to see you have a reason to be cautiously optimistic. Hope it all pans out, for all our sake!
I'm excited for 40k, fwiw.
i will wait and see, my expectations are not high
I just want to mention: the backlash over the last DLC worked. I'm not anti capitalism, let companies make money, but also demand them to respect their client base and work hard to bring us a good product. This is a very welcome change.
I feel sad for how the franchise is ending. Warhammer 2 was one of the most solid games CA had has at the end of its lifetime. Warhammer 3 only had to keep a strong fundations and make content has the have been doing for years. Instead we get a game with huge problems in his campaing and new game modes ( sieges, soul princes battles, Realm of Chaos...) and a ton of bad decisions with the increased of dlcs prices or the streak untill the released of Immortal empires. And it's a shame because the franchise still had a lot of potential. Miltiplayer campaing, improvements with the IA, best end of campaing scenarios... Now we are getting half of the content of the previous dlc for the same price and we are almost content. It's a pitty.
WH3 has been a blast that entertained me for 1,000 hours.
It makes me sad thinking about the coming end of warhammer fantasy. I've been playing this series since it first began and it's hard imagining starting over with 40k. I like 40k and I am actually kinda excited to play it, but it's going to take a while before we can build up enough playable factions for it to hit the same level as how fantasy is today. I'm going to choose to stay hopeful about it for now and keep to happy thoughts of running over the blueberry boyscouts in a rukkatrukk squigbuggy or doing zerg rush tactics with tyranids. But until it comes out, I still have like 60 legendary lords I haven't tried yet in fantasy.
It seems insane for GW to tie the hands of the Devs responsible for one of if not the most successful Warhammer game ever. Just let the devs cook, sheesh
GW is likely already cosidering how to make a videogame about their "new ip" Old World and doesn't want CA coloring outside the lines. Got to remember, as much as CA has been hated on... GW is historically a MUCH scummier company than CA.
Was hoping youd say "saving your disaster company"
Good job and great methodology Legend! You are spot on with the next historical game and with the dates. Just to add, the historical game was in a great trouble, his director resigned exactly a year ago, so the delay may save them.
I love the "Throne of delay" at the beggining...
"the current intent is to avoid creating something quite so big in scope so that we can help to keep both the value, and the price right for you." TL: We're making sure we won't give you too much value for your money lol.
turning 1 dlc into 3 to try and justify the price is madness and people will buy into it
(tbf it is better than paying 25$ for a dlc but the problem still is in the full price dlc)
I'd rather have 25-40$ DLCs over abandoned game like 3K, ToB, Pharao and etc.
Problem with 3 lord dlcs is they try to cram too much garbage that's untested or makes no sense to justify the price.
Kislev is legit a monster faction now.
Who cooked the hex system for ostyanka?
So smaller more well designed dlc packs that are released more frequently are infinitely more attractive to me than some lump of content they squirt out maybe twice a year if we are lucky that only tries to appeal to people by making everything OP as heck.
@@loowick4074 that part is on CA, they could have done it other way, yet they did not
@@Booklat1 Nobody is trying to justify the price by that... The price stays if you like it or not, but they tried to make it more consumer-friendly for people who can't spend those full 25 dollars or just don't care about some faction. Nowhere in the post did they mention something like "Look, it's 3 DLCs for the price of 1!" type of nonsense you talk about. This is just trying to fish for things to complain about at this point...
I'm really worried about those next games the Total War formula right now is not very good for those settings, I really hope WW1 and 40K mean a new engine is in the works. Warscape does not fit those settings... How can you represent what was basically a 4 year long unending battle spanning hundreds of km when all you can do is have a couple armies marching around the whole of France ? And on the battle side of things, it's the same problem, WW1 or 40k are not line battles with lines of infantry standing still and shooting at each other. And just making formations a bit more loose does not cut it, esp. for 40k, space marines do not operate by groups of 120...
They need a new engine, something which allows players/units to utilize the landscape, terrain, garrison broken buildings for cover, etc. The current use of landscape in Total War is nonexistent. Oh, I'm on an elevated hill....slight nonessential buff, great. Oh, I'm in a forest, slight nonessential buff/debuff, great... Hell, half their landscape you can't even move around because of all the invisible barriers. New engine is required. Use of landscape to form strategy.
Thanks for the update!
Would be looking forward to a TW40k.
I assume next DLC is gonna be a 2 LL one with a Slaanesh vs Khorne theme
“I won’t reveal what it is” tickle my balls why don’t you 😂 I clicked on the video for the leaks man ! Keep it up legend
This seems sick, can’t wait to see some love for empire
Love these updates videos from you, I know I can trust what you say and that you do t blow stuff way out of proportion.
It says leg of turtle war here with subtitles 😂
Legend I just wanted to say, I really appreciate how you present the info you have. You dont try to make a 20 min video about something that would take 2 min to explain unlike some others, you consistently give substantial info, and you seem to handle your sources well. On top of those, you remain transparent and open to corrections. So thanks, really
WW1 time setting sounds fun!
"It's no longer profitable as it was before" Geee I wonder why.
Warhammer 40k? YES!
yeah, but still many years away it seems
If they do a Trilogy, I'd love to see Heresy, then Scouring, then 40th millenia. Get all the primarchs and the Siege, forming of the Codex Astartes and rebuilding of the Imperium, then the necrons and tyranids.
I could see them basing all of it in the current setting, though. Just for continuity, faction roster, and to keep the narrative concise and workable
... and I GUESS the Tau 😒 lol
It'll probably be more soulless spess mareen slop.
@@RIPFerrus Not vanilla Eldar? I'd love a curveball in the form of Tyranids & Necrons.
If CA cook a good rework of the dwarf and the empire, I will buy the whole package. If not, I will buy only for Tamurkhan.
This is a pretty consumer-friendly pricing model. What we had before was like how cable channels are bundled together but you never watch most of them.
Our hopes, farfetched as they were, for anything but more chaos DLCs are officially dashed
Hmm, I was complaining earlier that it still wasn't a good deal "because you have to pay almost half the price of the basegame for three army additions which isn't equal to half the content of the basegame and maybe you only want one or two of the faction additions". It seems that they've seen the light and decided to do something about that. This finally eliminates a gripe I've had with their DLC practices, so good on them.
Anyway, there's some glaringly obvious additional content they can do with The Empire (lots of it, in fact) and the Dwarfs needed additions for a while, so it's welcome that they are included in the next DLC. It's a bit underwhelming if it's only Elspeth von Draken, but Elspeth makes sense if the Nurgle side includes Tamurkhan.
...............Also no way did you just casually hint at the "end times" and casually drop a "40K is indeed coming" and "WW1 is seemingly being developed". Holy moly.
Not sure if the '4 more dlc' thing was before or after the smaller dlc change. But they had stuck with their original roadmap of the 4 chaos gods, that would've ended up being 6 lords after this one. That is 3 more traditional 2 lord lord packs. Add in the end times dlc and thats 4 more dlcs. That sounds like something they would've planned, especially if they have ran out of GW coupons
It would've also lined up with the historical title and potentially 40k shortly after.
Dang 40K and WW1 news in one video? So excited!
until i see it im not sure 40k translate well on the battlefield as fantasy has done am i going to have 1000 imperial guard units and 25 space marines i do hope world war 1 is good and brings something new
We need new maps more than new units. And Ind and Khuresh NEED to be opened. Hyped for ToD
M2 but ind and khuresh are not coming for a long time i think, hope i am proven wrong
@@user-zh1hz1gq1l They very likely aren't coming at all.
Honestly I’m happy to just rely on mods when it comes to new maps, modders make cooler maps anyways.
I second this
I mean Ind and Khuresh were possible but with the recent news and the anticipated 4-5 left DLCs I wouldn't expect more than 1 new race added to the game, if at all.
Orks as a potential starting faction in TWW40k? Hell yeah.
I have played something like 10-15 alarielle campaigns by now, and i hadn't realized it until you brought it up. Lmao
its unfortunately looking bleak. I really wanted them to be able to see it through and make sure all the factions were fully fleshed out. A lot of them just feel like early access versions
Remember when Legend said there would be Hag Mother Lords? Well, there weren't. So while this is reasonably done, and possibly good info, we should keep our heads a bit.
would or should?
@@Romczy Would. He said his leak source said there would be Hag Mother Lords. I'm sure one of his sources did say that, but it proved incorrect. I'm not taking a shot at Legend for it either. Legend always said to take leaks with a grain of salt, which is the correct attitude.
@@Canuovea prob something that was made but not released / "didn't make the cut"
@@SGProductions87CA pretty much said, with corpo speak, that GW didn't let them. I assume it was something they were planning but got blocked
@@SGProductions87 It seems more likely that GW said "no." They'd have been super easy to make. The Druzshina was a much more difficult situation.
How legend says it will the last dlc be „the end times“ so maybe a Story dlc?
Everything sounds awesome!
Really excited about 40K. Been waiting for years...😁
I'll never stop being annoyed that they bungled Tamurkhan and Festus. The Nurgle mechanics were written for Festus and the WoC mechanics were written for Tamurkhan. It's way more the case than even with Be'lakor and Daniel.
Lol yeah it’s really weird in some ways. But also, it makes sense they would put Festus in CoC, since he is one of the 4 monolords in the 8th Ed army book
Hype hype hype, impatient to start a Nurgle campaign ! 🥳
And long term flavours/rumours look good, am full into it, I feel it pretty good overall.
Hopefully the terrible times of 2023, and the bashing on CA resulting of that, is the past now. We might actually get a great period for the 2 last years of WH3 to come with a polished game and the climax of Nagash+Thanqual at the end.
Which would be awesome, and logically it must be that, nothing else makes sense lorewise tbh.
But with 3-4 DLCs between ToD and N+T at the end, we still can have a significant quantity of content to come within 2years… we’ll see but I have a good feeling perso.
World War I would be very interesting, ya got calvary, tanks, zeppelins, planes, armored infantry, line infantry, weapons teams, artillery galore, shock troops, and probably a few other things. They basically tested everything to see what didn’t immediately get too many bullet holes.
It’ll be a good way to test things, as it was dynamic, then static then dynamic again.
40k will be interesting too. I expect unit numbers in game to be like oops all aspiring champions. Since I don’t see having 60 space marines in a unit compared to 600 guardsmen in a unit.
I can't imagine WWI game in TW setting...
For real, Trench Simulator, the game?
@@shorewall manoeuvre warfare happened in WW1, especially as it dragged on, it wasn't all strictly deadlocked trench warfare. which makes it even harder to imagine the TW formula in a manoeuvre warfare setting...
Same with 40k, how is either of those to work with TW setting??
I don't find it that hard to imagine. It'll probably look something similar to two gunpowder stacks fighting each other but with additional projecting blocking modifiers so they don't instantly kill each other.
Even real life soldiers move around in groups like warhammer cards.. with some units suppressing and pinning down targets so another unit can flank them. In the Army, most basic combat drill is battle drill 1A that does exactly that.
@@MajorDryhole A good 40k Total War will need a new engine. I don't think they can pull that off with this shitty spaghetti ending.
Epidemius seems strange as a LL choice, given they just made the Tzeentch equivalent, the Scribes, into LHs. It seems the hearalds were originally meant as FLC for each Monogod, then degraded as heroes when CA decided to cut the developement of WH3, and now it seems they changed their mind again. With this way tho Tzeentch god the shortes end of the stick.
There was a reply from CA in the comments saying that the 22.92 was the 'final' bundle price at least.
Legend bringing up people with their Karl Franz campaigns, it made me think of how I’m now at the cusp of a thousand hours and atleast 600 of those are dwarf playthroughs lmao
I am a Karl Franz enjoyer and I cannot lie. The allure of greatswords and handgunners is too much for me
If we get Nuln Ironsides in the dlc you'll get heavy armor handgunners, best of both worlds!
So dlc is still 25 dollars ie price of entire game on discount and we should be really happy because now we can pay it 2 times in lower amounts?
Yeeeeah no. I've not bought any DLC since champions of chaos. £20 for a single DLC is a ripoff and I don't see the prices coming down.
25 is like 2 hours of work, even 30 mins if you work hard . . .
@@jibbanibba2000 not everyone has rich parents like you do buddy
@@imma5761 with such attitude you will never be one
Legend calling me out right at the start
I got introduced to warhammer from total war, currently I couldn’t care less for 40k but I’m not mad at it either
Same, I didn't buy into it until warhammer 2 was announced.
I eventually got sucked into the lore, and I enjoyed it. But I struggle to get interested in 40k. If they make a solid game, it might help me cross that bridge.
Why do they need to be so definite about closing the door to the series? I'd buy DLC that was released after 40k comes out
Given it's already been talked/rumoured since last year, the WW1 game is the brainchild of the incompetent management who Legend calls out.
It just seems like a very bad idea. There's no demand for a game set in that period, and a lot of demand for historical games set in other periods. That's going to create some resentment amongst the player base right out of the gate.
ww1 was on the lips of fans since shogun 2 mods, so there is a demand, but very weak.
Like, who needs ww1 right next to 40k lol, no1.
Here’s the inconsistency I’m seeing: if the leaks are delayed until at least 2025, they have almost 2 years to fill with content and make money…
So they can’t physically keep the lights on with only 2 more dlcs
As an Empire Enjoyer, I resemble that remark.
still overpriced for the amount of content delivered. DLC is not expensive to make, its no where near the cost of making a new game. The DLC train by companies like paradox and CA are pricing me out of the market. Despite a love of strat games I feel like I can only stay up to date with one or 2 games... I just cant justify more money, because you know.. costs are up (food, bills etc)
I honestly think if both these companies lowered their prices, bundled their DLCs, provided a subscription to get(and keep) all DLC of all their games their profits would go up, not down - at the very least their profits would not go down because it costs nothing to produce 1 more copy of a digital product.
I look forward to total war warhammer coming to an end - hopefully CA will do the decent thing and open up serious mod controls and let us modders carry on.
Empire faction is incredibly underdeveloped compared to factions from the later games, people who only play them boggle my mind.
most played faction
Even when TW:W1 first launched, I found them to be the least interesting faction; over time, they've gotten even more bland compared with everyone else. I think I've played, at most, maybe five or six Empire campaigns in the nearly 2000 hours I've got across the three games.
@@jeffreymilliman2306yeah I kinda defaulted to dwarfs as my "human" faction.
Leadership asleep at the wheel and being replaced really fits the DLC title "Thrones of Decay"
40k and ww1 make sense together. Theyre basically the same tactics other than the melee heavy lists
40K sounds cool, but I have no idea how they are going to make it work with the current engine they are using.
The prideflag at the avatar in the beginning, why are they like this?
Spilitting DLC is definitely a good idea, idk how good it'd turn out but that'd be a start. Still the DLC price is still quite hefty, $25 for 3 LL seems like the standard now. I hope the roster update is substantial as the race reworks would be free for all.
So the last one is bringing "end times" huh? The way he said it ;)
I’ve just played my 51st Karl campaign I think
Gotta pump those numbers
Yeah, still not trusting CA again.
Got me pegged. I have played several Karl Franz campaigns. It's just recently that I've started branching out to a Vlad campaign.
Nuuuuuurgle
I'm so pumped for 40k!
an end times dlc sounds like an absolute blast