Thrones of Decay Finally Announced
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April 30 is the release date.
THE EMPIRE
Elspeth von Draken (LL)
Theodore Bruckner (LH)
Master Engineer (Lord)
Engineer (Hero)
Hochland Long Rifles
Knights of the Black Rose
Marienburg Landship
Nuln Ironsides
Steam Tank Volley Gun
DWARFS
Malakai Makaisson (LL)
Garagrim Ironfist (LH)
Daemon Slayer (Lord)
Dragon Slayer (Hero)
Doomseekers
Goblin-Hewer
Grudge-Raker Thunderers
Slayer Pirates
Thunderbarge
NURGLE
Tamurkhan the Maggot Lord (LL)
Epidemius (FLC LL)
Kayzk the Befouled (LH)
Chaos Lord of Nurgle (Lord)
Chaos Sorcerer of Nurgle (Hero)
Bile Trolls
Pestigors
Plague Ogres
Rot Knights
Toad Dragon
Where did you get the release date? The rosters I've heard from Milk And Cookies, but no date.
Sounds great! Hyped for steamtank volley gun and slayer pirates ;3
@@TuvyahJ At least the content creators can start streaming the DLC content next week. The Release can't be that long away.
@@TuvyahJ CA releasing it "In April" ie. as far back as they can possibly push it.
Source: trust me bro
Where did you get this?
13:13 video lenght, Horned One is proud of you Legend 😂
deliberate video length
well, next dlc is def gonna be skaven and nagash. Probably the last dlc.
YES YES!!
@@nvmtt1403 not if Thrones are successful. Everything depends on this DLC.
@@nvmtt1403 Na next DLC wont be the last
From internal sources they had 4-6 dlc planned
Im guessing 4 were already being worked on and 2 more were just planned
So I expect at least 3 more
They did say DLCS will be smaller so maybe only Two LL per dlc now
So my Ideas
DLC 1 - Slannesh vs VC (Neferata)
DLC 2 Khorne VS DE
DLC 3 - NAGASH
I also expect TODDY to be FLC maybe for Skulls one year
and some sort of Dogs of War DLC since they had files on them
Me: Creative Assembly has to do a lot to regain the faith of their player base
Also me: look at that it’s a boat but on land
And also there are boatd in the sky.
And both look equally stupid
Nuln Engineer special ability: Nuln Oil. Drops pot on enemies causing them to have better defined shading in exchange for 10.99
there's also a chance of spilling the pot all over the UI instead of the enemies...
Theodore Bruckner is from the Nemesis Crown stuff that this DLC is heavily based on. He was the right hand man of the Elector Count of Nuln, and worked closely with Elspeth to help defeat Tamurkhhan at the end of the storyline.
Edit: he's from Tides of Decay, not Nemesis Crown. Not sure how I got those two mixed up.
He's from Tamurkhhan The Throne of Chaos Forge world book, not the Nemesis Crown. 😁
yes but I wish they introduced Alaric
Theodore is the champion of the elector countess of Wissenland not Nuln, Nuln is just a very important city
I forgot about the Nemesis Crown. It would be a damned shame if we didn’t get that in Immortal Empires. Serving a role similar to the Sword of Khaine.
Thunderbarge baby, the Dawi are so back.
''The Thunderbadge!''
It’s not like there’s a ~2 year old mod that adds the Thunderbarge or anything
@@qreamiepeanutbutter1215 Mod does not look nearly as good as the official
Unrelated to the subject of the video, hearing Legend talk about listening to the E-books at 6:23 when he was completely uninterested in warhammer lore back during the release of the first two games is quite interesting!
Hope you have fun with them legend!
He talked about hearing those books during WH2 times though.
@@JayvH Well Wh2 times were pretty much 5 yeears so quite z bit could have happened between the release of wh2 and wh3
@@JayvH he did start his lore adventures during Wh2's runtime. But wh2 had a rough release and it took a year or two for the gears to turn and for legend to pick up the books and the lore.
Big improvement on the Shadows of Change debacle, and the fact you can buy each faction individually if you prefer is pretty cool
I have been holding out on a new Empire campaign for SOOO long, almost since WH2 (did one a few months after launch of WH2 with the hunter LL but none since). Will definitely get Elspeth, probably Maalaki as well just for the slayers and Thunderbarge even if the modded barge is pretty good, it will be removed once CA's own content is out.
I hope Elspeth starts in the east because I can't see CA putting her right by Gelt and KF but having a new start locations and ability to travel via Gardens of Morr sounds perfect for the Empire to make any campaign about colonizing the Southlands or the east as the Empire. I know Volkmar is in the Southlands but he doesn't feel like he is colonizing while there, was a weird choice by CA to put him there anyway. Elspeth feels better with death magic to fight TK, Arkhan, LM, Mannfred, etc.
Tamurkhan... least interesting to me. I just don't like Nurgle or any Chaos factions other than Slaanesh or Tzeentch. I am still refusing to buy SoC, the handful of Tzeentch units are simply not worth it because I have nearly zero interest in everything else and even with reduced price.... nah.
@AlanLamb11 I'd expect them to move Gelt rather than have Elspeth outside of Nuln given the whole "Gunnery School" mechanic. Could have a split start like Yuan Bo.... also my brother in Tzeentch you have not lived until you have roasted a whole army with changebringers. Flamers on discs, the ultimate unit melter
Get ready to save these disaster battles "I recruited 19 thunder barges but got rekt by harpies".
The expanded slayer roster might make them an interesting army theme now. Overall very happy with the selections CA made.
I'm glad I can now do an Ungrim run and kill sheet. Lmao😂😂😂
I don't see how slayers can be good. I lose half force every time...am I missing something.
@@kreuzrittergottes9336 They fight to the end.
@@kreuzrittergottes9336 At the moment I use a few units as fast (for a dwarf) flank protection infantry. They are pretty good to catch ennemy flankers and protect your range. But as a full stack no they don't preform super well, apart maybe with Ungrim (but even them I don't full stack them). Now we can add some short range artiellery, range infantry, and heroes to block ennemy front line, it can be pretty fun theme army with a sprinkle of longer range units.
@@Coeurebene1 ah yes, I was trying to full stack them. I couldn't remember if legend had done that but while they def would win almost any battle, I would lose half the force and take like 5 turns to recover.
If only sieges actually functioned in such a fun way.
Rock paper shotgun actually has an article out that lists all units for the DLC.
Empire gets Marienburg landships, Steam tank volley guns, Nuln Ironsides, Hotchland long rifles, Knights of the black roads, and Master engineers and engineers as the lord and heroes.
Nurgle gets plague ogres, rot knights, Toad dragons, Pestigors, and bile trolls (with the previously discussed lords and heroes)
Dwarves get doomseekers, goblin hewers, thunder barges, grudge raker thunderers, and slayer pirates, and then demon and dragon slayers as their lord and hero slots respectively (so very slayer heavy).
Going to be very interested to see the factional reworks, the article also states that there will be a full rework of mechanics for the three factions on the campaign map in a patch to go alongside the DLC, but obviously we need to wait for more info on that. The only real weird part to me is that we're getting a Engineer lord for the empire but no wizard lord, which feels slightly surprising to me.
If you ever read a bit of lore about empire wizards. it made total sense why there's no wizard lord. Wizards are landless and belong to their school. If they were a noble, then they lose their lands or their right of inheritance. Obviously they don't have a choice. Magic are frown upon because its dangerous so they wouldn't put much trust in them bar few exceptions. Plus let's be honest here. this is Nuln, its obvious they going to add an engineer lord lol.
Edit: also I do hope that their list is wrong. Not giving the empire a proper endgame frontline unit is massively disappointing. Was hoping reiksguard footmen. But I guess it doesn't matter since you can just borrow 4 dwarfs units and then your gunners could probably shoot over their heads.
@@gaborszabo5078 Also, across the factions, in terms of gameplay diversity wizard lords tend to be way more valuable than melee lords. This is technically CAs fault for not giving melee lords the tools to allow them to contend with wizards, but i really do get tired of trying the weak melee lords because im even more bored of the wizards, only to pivot back to wizards because they are just that underwhelming.
Beastmen, skaven, dwarfs among others all have this problem.
@@shapesdontfly Dwarf lord is basically unkillable melee tank tho, u just need proper equipment.
@@gaborszabo5078 Wizard lorss were always a thing in the tabletop.
Where did you see the mention of faction reworks?
4:01 Slaanesh is missing the melee heroe and the sorcerer lord. It is khorne the one that is completed simply becouse it has no casters.
Malakai comes back in several later books too; him as a lord seemed weird at first but he always manages to find a couple hundred dwarfs to follow him and get in a scrap so it actually makes sense. Slayer engineers is a cool concept
In Gotrek and Félix books we encounter him. I imagined him more like a legendary hero with special abilities for slayers recruitment and replenishment, or artillery enhancement. Since he's a slayer and and an engineer, a legendary hero like Ulrika semt fine to me, but having him as a lord can gives him a hell of unique skills.
Legend the units for nurgle that dont appear in the trailer are: Pestigors, Rot knights and Bile trolls
Rot knights ARE ON THE TRAILER XD
What I hope the most for the dwarfs, is that they got some sort of replenishment. Either through the new slayer hero or globally through other stuff.
well all heroes can use ironwarden tankard which you can craft easily, and for units its not that important anyway, especially for infantry (which is all they have anyway)
@@mirceam7152 Replenishment is not important for infantry? What game are YOU playing xD
I think you might confuse regeneration with casualty Replenishment
Replenishment would be nice with the new hero or a third after battle option for replenishment % what many other races have. And some more speed for slayer based armies like for Ungrim.
@@mirceam7152 disagree completely lol.
It's especially important for infantry, which is like you said, their entire roaster.
And being forced to either recruit miners in newly captured cities or wait 4 turns in place just to somewhat recover is horrible & unfun. And that is in green territory, now imagine orange or red...
Meanwhile other factions laugh their asses off at that because they can fight each turn once they got their agents or technology.
The whole reason why bretonnia damsals got changed and now give replenishment in TW3 instead of item drop chance is because how essential replesnishment is to a faction. They were also one of the few factions that didn't have access to replenishment. Now the dwarfs remain.
@@CacneaMain I might have gotten confused yeah, I was referring to healing in combat, not replenishment.
Slaanesh doesn't have a caster Lord or Melee hero though :p Same boat as Nurgle pre-ToD, except opposite.
Also Slaanesh has only 1 LL which is lame
@@jibbanibba2000 Oh absolutely! Bring on Dechala I say! Also hoping CA makes the bold but correct move of moving Sigvald over to Slaanesh
@@goatforcemcgoat8233 Masque, Dechala, Styyrkar, Gilberion, there is so much to add if wanted . . .
Personally whoever CA brings I hope it won't be bald.
@@jibbanibba2000 I am pretty certain that Masque will be the FLC like Epidemious, I am guessing that Styrkaar will be the LH in Dechala's DLC as he fits the snake theme and will buff the Serpents of Slaanesh riders we will probably get.
Honestly I think that will be everything for Slaanesh we will get, unfortunately the least supported god. I really wish that GW had finished THrone of Chaos series for a big bad Slaanesh character like Tamurkhan and some more units.
@@goatforcemcgoat8233 thats true GW only cares about Nurgle, because "zombies" is something simple for masses to consume
Cant wait for this DLC
I have never seen a "Crude humour" rating before :D
About the upcoming units. You can learn a bit more about them in the book of grudges's video. He showed a document or blog about them
So much they are giving us, lords, heroes, units, all of it. I'm so excited for this, this is gonna be great!
The comment about there being no gap for Slaaneshi Warriors of Chaos doesn't seem correct. There is currently a Melee Lord for Slaanesh, but no Caster Lord (unless you count Daemon Prince of Slaanesh). There is only a caster hero for Slaanesh, but no melee hero. So there are some gaps that could be filled for WoC here.
Time to make Empire Great Again!
Im so hyped for this 😂
I might actually play them now.
They got no better units to hold the frontline which was its biggest issue. More firepower won't fill the gaps.
MEGA
they were already great before the most popular faction lmao
Love your work man!
I'm hyped for the maggot lord!
I imagine Malakai's Spirit of Grugni is more akin to the pirate ships of the Vampire Coast. A suite of upgrades, with maybe the additional ability to bring it into the battle as a Thunderbarge with a unique skin/abilities.
Trailer narrative be like: Protect Nuln oil at all cost
😂
Thks for explaining !
LegendofTotalWar, This is amazing! I can't stop smiling!
Will probably wait to see your full campaign livestreams before I decide to buy it - still a bit too pricey for me to justify... Too used to how we were treated in warhammer 2!
£7.99 2 legendary lords with their unique faction mechanics - new lord types - nine new units - all the regiments of renown. Compared to the new 8 pound something for 1 lord-hero-5 units-3 regiments. Hope the faction mechanics are exciting enough to make up for it!
All those units, lords, and heroes have been confirmed by other channels official press release!
I really hope they make Elspeth a dual start position because I completely agree with Legend's point that it's too many lords close together, but you still want to feel like your empire faction is in the empire. I think it worked great for all the other dual start position lords who have been in a similar spot like Eltharion, Yuan Bo and Malus. Dual start positions are some of my favourite campaigns
I saw that Sharpe video on the side there and I kinda want you to review that next. Fantastic show.
I’m excited. I’ve been waiting for the mighty Toad Dragon.
Hope to see you in Taal's Horn Keep, Legend.
This looks so epic already, I really hope this does well
I'm very excited for this DLC it looks really good!
Time to revisit your slayer only campaign in WHIII
Looks really nice and great big new units :)
Sounds cool so far, i am going to get the empire and dwarf probs.
Will be interesting to see how CA's Elspeth plays vs. Mixu's Elspeth.
I like mixu's look more
@@MarineCARMINE yeah she looks like katarin
@@urahi830 lmao yeah shes just thicc katarin
What always happens, he will remove her from his mod. Maybe upload her as a skin.
@@urahi830 I'm not the only one that noticed that
Agreed, the Empire DESPERATELY needs a wizard lord (but sounds like they are getting an engineering lord instead). Most races can instantly recruit a magic lord, but the empire has the SECOND WORST access to magic, having to build a high-tier building, recruit a hero in that province, then march to a waiting army. Only SKARBRAND has worse access to magic (as he has none).
If CA doesn't want to give us wizard lords, at least let wizard heroes be recuit anywhere, and get free movement the turn recruited, and increase the recruitment cap (+1 for every level 1 major settlement?). You can lock certain lores of magic behind needing a tier 4 or 5 mage building somewhere in the empire. Of course, it would be easier just to give wizard lords (WH 2 had a great mod that did this.)
looks good so far but i Pray they do the Champaign chances the three factions surly need.
Malachai is in a fair few of the gotrek and felix books after he is introduced. Hes my favourite character in the books so im excited for him and i wanted slayer heroes, makes more sense than a unit of slayers haha. Looking forward to playing him
110% stoked for Elspeth… Finally getting some
hype stuff for TWW. I hope in future Empire dlc we get Boris and knightly orders.
i am hype for new and improved nurgle because that model is on my shelf and maybe i’ll be motivated to finish painting it lol
Epidemius is in the trailer, riding besides Kazyk
hell yeah
The routine is: new official trailer comes out, watch it straight away. Then, wait for LegendOfTotalwar to release his video about it !
Keep up the good work! 😁😁
We will obviously have to wait for the reworks, but so far ToD looks like absolute fire.
Today is such a glorious day where we know when will winter 2023 last to
All of the units already confirmed. Nurgle is getting bile trolls, pestigors and new knight unit.
What's the source for that? Haven't seen anything about his units. Or are the units in the trailer and I'm just blind?
@@fourcgames7568 There are already new unit cards posted on reddit for each faction in ToD
@@fourcgames7568 some other content creators already posted the info plus one game blog
@@fourcgames7568 Check out The Great Book of Grudges. He made a video with everything that will come
@@fourcgames7568 The Rot Knights were in the trailer very briefly but all the units for each faction have been confirmed by GBOG and IndiePride
Im too careful to be properly hyped yet but as I expected it does look good... though there don't seem to be that many truly new DLC mechanics. Fingers crossed the mechanic overhauls for the 3 factions are more unique at least. The units are great tho, some very unique models and units I imagine (well, at least a decent part of them)
Remember gentelmen, NO PREORDERS
Bile Trolls are coming!
For Tamurkhan, I believe the lords that you get will be unique and both Norscan and WoC. Really hoping the campaign reworks pull through as this trailer and the content looks crazy. Very optimistic!
I think you can see Epidemius in trailer next to LH of Nurgle.
lolol i was blindly pre-ordering at the end of the video and stopped as i was listening to you hahaha. checked myself ur right
Love watcing his youtube recommended be similar to mine
maybe the amethyst court will be another one of those like yuan bo or malus darkblade where they spawn on the other side of the world and have that expedition type campaign.
6:30 @LegendofTotalWar you mentioned audiobooks. Grimdark Narrator on YT has TONS of fantasy audiobooks. Listen to the first few Gotrek and Felix then move to Thanquol for your favorite race.
All grudges will be settled!
Thanks legend
looks to me like we're going to see gunney jezaills. i was thinking i should play an empire campaign. i was thinking to pre purchase the dlcs (all of them), but you are right. pre ordering stuff it's what got us the bad stuff, so i'm going to wait until release, and Legend (and other streamers) take on it
Damn Legend was legit right all along!
cant believe we still havent got a vampire count update
I will pre-order, but only after seeing all content and reviews are put out. So maybe the day before?
Slaanesh is actually missing their exalted hero and chaos sorcerer lord variants. But apart from that I believe the only units they are missing are slaangors and the tit snakes. Not necessarily the next DLC, but I think they'll get something down the line. Khorne is lacking khorngors, slaughterbrutes and some infantry variants I think. Although since a lot of the units are cross faction ones they could just do DLC for beastmen and WoC/DoC that added the missing ones.
Sigvald counts as Undivided, so he tends to get every LH as well
The dwarf generic lord is the Demon Slayer, the hero is the Dragon Slayer, and the units are the Thunderbarge, slayer pirates, doom seekers, grudge raker thunderers and the thing that shoots axes
Slayer hero/lord doomstack. So keen
If Malakai Makaisson turns out to be a horde character one thing I would love to see is that allies in adjacent provinces can recruit from him kind of how we can recruit ogre bulls mercenaries and while he is inside of their provinces then that province can now recruit their own gunpowder units even if that province do not have the building for it. Maybe make it so this only works when Malakai Makaisson has got his own gunpowder building and the more it is upgraded the higher tier his allies can recruit from him or something?
Slaanesh is still missing a sorcer lord and exalted hero. But units wise, there's next to nothing left I think.
Khorne has some units it can add but lord and hero wise, it's pretty much done.
Both factions however have a fair few LLs and LHs still.
I think it's very much a possibility the Slaanesh and Khorne DLCs in the shadows/thrones style are no longer being done. But hopefully, they get some love in a more general combined DLC that adds bits and pieces for multiple factions.
Looks promising, but I'll first watch your vid about it before buying.
I wonder if Van Draken will have a dual start position like the Jade Dragon
Dang, I have no idea which faction I should play first? All three are some of my favorites
Awsome
Cheers!❤
Now we just need Snorri, Kat and Max. We're gettin the band back together.
In the lore Theodore Bruckner is the Headsman and personal judicial champion of the elector countess of Nuln. He’s basically the Ludwig Schwartzhelm of Nuln. He’s the guy who fights on behalf of the elector countess in trial by combat like Gregor Clegane for Cersei Lannister. In the lore he teamed up with Elspeth von Draken to slay Tamurkhan at the battle of Nuln, so I expect Elspeth to start in Wissenland and Bruckner to be her Legendary hero.
I knew it was very unlikely, but I was still hoping we'd get the actual elector countess of Nuln as well. Warhammer Fantasy Marie Antoinette could flesh out the Empire more than more warriors and flying wizards (though admittedly, those win battles and sell DLCs).
@@krmpmnn it would’ve been cool to see her, but she’s not really a fighter so I don’t know exactly how she’d fit into the current mechanics. They’d probably add Marius Leitdorf before her. And he’s dead in the lore. But hey they brought back Tsar Boris and Repanse so anything’s possible
Wissenland, not Nuln...the county is Wissenland
@@tunencio7288 same difference. She’s even called the countess of Nuln
@@redwings0142 Karl Franz is also the Prince of Altdorf, nobles have a lot of tittles but if we are talking elector count, wissenland is the province.
I've been Elspething this for a long time.
Slayers baby!!
All the leaked units you mentioned, except for the mechanical steed, are in the trailer! lol
Pray that this is CAs redemption!
I will literally flay myself inside a church just for this game's Redemption...
Book of grudges has a full list of the units on his latest video, your source sounds good
Gotta love the fact that RUclips algorithm suggests LegendofTotalWar videos .....to LegendofTotalWar . To watch what ? He made the damn thing XD
I notice our algorithms are closely aligned, Legend 😂
There's a RUclipsr, goes by the name MandaloreGaming, and he made an off-hand comment/joke about the land ship not being in the game, and that he made one in Minecraft in a day or two and how it wouldn't be that difficult since there's already assets for it... Finally, his will be done lol.
Edit: It was in his Total War Warhammer 2 review lol. That, and how terrible siege battles were, which they addressed [mostly] in Total Warhammer 3. Now... If we could just get a Total War: Warhammer 40k... *sigh* A man can dream can't he?? It could be a combination of how well fantasy Warhammer 3, and the Battle Fleet Gothic games!!
You know, they might put Elspeth into the mountains of mourn/the darklands. There's zero empire presence there, and it would give you enemies that you seldom face as the Empire. Also would make for some interesting allies with Cathay nearby.
I dont know where great book of grudges got his Informations but he has a full list of all new units 😅
You can see Epidemius in the trailer for a moment so he’s definitely going to be there FLC lord.
A man can still hope he's a legendary hero, but slim chance.
Ha! I didn’t watch the trailer first. I’m watching your video first!
Thrones of Delay is here boys.
So fuckin hype-especially for the Dwarfs but honestly it all looks awesome
I’m not sure if it was this video or the one before it but you mentioned that in the next couple of years WH3 will stop getting content.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on what you think needs to be done by that time to leave the game as “balanced” (very loose word for WH) a state as possible before we get no more DLCs and content.
What factions do you think will get the remaining DLC’s?
Theodore Bruckner is the champion of Nuln he's basically the Countess's body guard and the man they picked to try and take on Tamurkhan.
Maybe a split start, like Yuan Bo or Eltharion for Elsbeth von Draken?
Monstrous chode dragons is wild.
I suspect that Elspeth will start near Festus, with him as the short victory condition.
Dont pre order until you see the campaign changes. All 3 races needed some help in that aspect. Units help there as well to some degree. Dont forget the cost, 3rd of the cost for a typical game.
In the trailer they had an engineer with a sniper rifle and in lore he had a mechanical steed and bomb pigeons