Doctor Analyzes Hoarders (I've Never Seen a Case This Bad)
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This is another Doctor REACTS video watching Hoarders. This is the first reaction video to this series and I'm watching an episode that came up on TikTok for me recently from season 6, where we see two hoarders and consider how we diagnose hoarding disorder, its relationship with depression, addiction and obsessive compulsive disorder, how we treat it, the risks that come with hoarding and much more. Let me know what you think and any other analysis or reaction videos you want me to check out.
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The UK Hoarders programme with a woman called Jasmine is much better than the US programme. In the US version, they go along and browbeat the person, offering tiny amounts of therapy along the way. The UK version they actually get the person to talk to a specialist therapist before starting, and there's much more focus on the outcomes and the skewed perception of the hoarder rather than on getting frustrated with them.
Ultimately shows like this are more about entertainment than helping people, unfortunately. They offer services that people couldn't otherwise afford, with the price being turning their case into a spectacle. Since the UK has universal healthcare it makes sense that their version would be less exploitive, they don't have as much to offer.
Back in the days when I was really struggling with alcoholism, I had an offer to go on Dr. Phil in exchange for them paying for three months of rehab. When you consider that rehab in the US costs between $20,000 - $50,000 per month, it's a pretty tempting offer for someone who's at the end of their rope. I'm glad that I didn't take them up on it, though.
@@flingonberI do wonder though if it's also an editing issue. Maybe US shows 1% of the therapy given and UK all of it. Maybe the US viewers are not interested in the therapy, but the drama, while UK wants to see actial progress. At the end of the day, reality TV isn't actually real
Usually too in the USA the hoarders on on their last chance. It’s get bitten care if or becomes. The USA doesn’t have universal health care and mentos health help is vastly expensive. So yes, the USA show is harsh because it’s be harsh or the person will quite literally be out on the street. That happened and the man did get into a shelter and then kicked out of the shelter for hoarding.
@@flingonberI’m sooo glad you didn’t take them up on it either! That makes me think of that survivor winner, I think his first name is Tood(?), who was a very severe alcoholic & was suupperrr drunk on the show. Years later he filed a lawsuit against Dr Phil because he said they would supply him with alcohol.
They have a specialist on the US version too, but I don't think she's very good. As someone with mental health issues, she seems more like she's trying to push the person into a meltdown rather than helping them push through
Thank you for making this video from a place of compassion and understanding. My dad was a hoarder and I grew up in a house similar to these. I've struggled with my own hoarding since I was a young kid, but I've been working on it in therapy. So many people are extremely cruel when talking about hoarders, as if it's just because we're lazy and don't want to change. It's so much more than that. I would change my hoarding behaviors in a second if it was that easy.
I wish you the best of luck. Too much shame put on these folks.
My grandma was a hoarder. I think it stemmed from a bad childhood and she was married and had her first child by the time she was16...she never really fully grew up, she was always quite childlike. My mum stopped me and my sister visiting because we would come home stinking and often fell ill...it wasnt just collecting things, she would have a dirty kitchen with contaminated tops and just make us a sandwich or something without even wiping anything down. She had dogs and cats that would just pee and deficate in the house freely and she wouldnt clean it. There were visible piles of animal hair all over the carpet that was accessible. It caused real structural damage to her house...floorboards were rotting to the point you could see downstairs to the kitchen from the bathroom, a big crack in the wall that could be seen from inside and outside of the house. There were rooms you could not enter because there was so much stuff...you couldnt even open the door. When i got older i tried many times to help her...itd take me weeks to clean and obviously she would never let me throw anything away but i would try to organise things and just clean...the cost to clean it alone was monumental...bin bags for the rubbish...she just would throw rubbish on the floor and not even in the bin, all the sprays and cloths...i broke a few hoovers even. When i was young i just thought she was scruffy but as i got older i realised there was something more going on than just being dirty. We never got to the bottom of it though, she ended up with dementia and got placed in a home and not long after she passed away but i often wonder what itd be like if she got help...i didnt even know you could get help for it or even be reported for it.
My aunt and uncle were on an episode of US Hoarders. I know it's a television show, they have to cut things together to make it interesting, dramatize it, etc. But what was portrayed was heavily altered for a specific narrative that was really upsetting to watch. It was edited to look as if my aunt was a mute (she has early stage dementia, untreated bi polar, paranoid of doctors and medicine), and implied my uncle caused her dementia (Dr Robin straight up says to my mom that they need to "save [aunt]").
Just an awful, awful experience
i'm not sure if i've seen that episode in particular but i know there have been at least a couple of episodes that portrayed the husband as basically being neglectful and/or abusive to the wife. dr zasio has bothered me ever since the episode where the hoarder had already been in therapy for a couple of years for a personal trauma, heavily implied to be a sexual assault by a former lover, and dr zasio kept badgering her to talk about it on camera. this woman had walled off her bedroom for 15 years, was in therapy, was talking about the issue causing the aversion to the bedroom in private therapy, and dr zasio was like "we can't address this hoarding issue until you tell me what happened." wanted her to trauma dump about being raped in front of millions of strangers on national television. just awful.
@@dietotaku Dr Zasio did absolutely nothing for my family. Everyone that was there to help (my mom, another uncle, a cousin) all said that she sat in the rental car on her tablet all three days, and only came out when they wanted to film A Moment
Corey was around the entire time, though
Oh wow. I adore Dr. Zazio but am sad to hear that. Which episode was it?
My neighbour when I was a child was a hoarder. She used to go through everyone's rubbish bins at night and take stuff to add to her hoard. She also used to give me bags full of broken and dirty toys she'd found in bins. It was quite sad as she seemed like a lovely person. I believe she eventually got sectioned due to her mental health issues. I really hope she got the help she needed.
Storytime about generational hoarding. Very loooong storytime, lol:
My grandma, who just turned 100 in January (still sharp as a tack too), was 8 years-old when the Great Depression went into full-swing. Her dad abandoned them, so it was just her and her mom. She told me that during that time, they'd save the leftover end bits of thread from sewing, tie those bits together, and use those to sew too. That's how bad it was for them. True, abject poverty.
She knew how to stretch a dollar and used everything they had. But after my grandpa died when she was 53, she was finally able to shop without someone constantly griping at her. This was a moment of freedom for her (he sucked), but it's also when the hoarding started. Slowly at first (a little when we visited when she was 59, much more when we visited when she was 65), but now, after 40+ years and grieving countless friends who've passed away, her house is taken over and her shed is filled floor to ceiling. She always says "We might need it".
Due to needing more help, she lives with my mom now. Problem is, my mom is also a hoarder. That had started around middle school for me (so in her 40s). The only thing she really spent money on was clothes and books, but the bigger issue was that she couldn't throw papers away. However, after my parents divorce, the shopping exploded and the laser printer never stopped printing. She has some insight that she's a hoarder, but is also overwhelmed with where to even start. Her big thing is that with papers, she wants to go through every piece to make sure she doesn't throw away something important. She's asked for help for the mountains of printouts she hasn't seen or thought about in decades, but then gets very angry if you touch her stuff. It's made it very difficult to help her.
I didn't have a problem with it, partly because I never had money lol. However, when I first became disabled (a huge trauma with lots of grief) I simultaneously found the world of altered books and mixed-media art. Think more messy scrapbooking than fine art mixed-media. It's a *very* product/supply oriented community. Since I couldn't buy the fancy stuff though, I started thrifting for supplies and collecting literal trash to use as stencils and in collage. When I finally hit the "Oh s**t, I'm hoarding" point a few years later, my sister and I collected up 9 black lawn n' leaf bags of things to throw away. I didn't miss one single thing.
I've gone through periods of thrifting and purging since, but something that took me totally by surprise was when I suddenly hit a container phase in my late 40s. All of a sudden, I felt actual doom if I tried to throw away a leftover plastic tub, glass food jar or Amazon box. For reasons I still don't understand, I was scared I'd need them later, or that something bad would happen if I threw them away. I didn't know what would happen, but I had tons of anxiety about it. It was the first time I really got that it wasn't just a shopping addiction for them (which I also get) - it was true anxiety that bad things would happen if they discarded anything.
A small increase in my dose of Zoloft and poof! No more doom. I could throw them away easily. When I told my therapist about that, she said "And nothing bad would've happened without the Zoloft too". That stuck with me and has really helped when I've occasionally felt that need to hold onto things I don't need. "Nothing bad will happen even if I feel like it will. We're just missing a little serotonin up in here".
For my grandma, after the severe scarcity she went through from ages 8-26, it makes sense to me that she would develop anxiety around throwing things away. WWII and post WWII was rough too. But then I wonder how much epigenetics played a role in it being passed down and how much environment played a part for my mom and I. My mom was born in the middle of that period of scarcity, and while she didn't see a lot of hoarding (because everything was used), she had it drilled into her the importance of using every bit of things before throwing them away. I still don't know why it was papers and documents that was the initial focus. Maybe her parents threw some papers away that were vitally important to _her_ as a kid.
For me, I saw the frustration my dad had over the overflow of papers and for myself, I despised the clutter in "her" areas, but then when I hit a period of intense stress, boom! I turned into a magpie. And guess what's the main supply in the altered books/mixed-media art community? Yup...books and paper.
I realize my mom and I learned hoarding when we were younger, but it also seems like such a specific way for anxiety to manifest - where you'll feel actual doom if items are thrown away - that I can't help but wonder if genetic shifts play a part. I don't know - like some gatherer instinct gets set into overdrive, lol. I'd have loved if someone studied how it manifested in my grandma's generation - or anyone who's gone through sustained periods of scarcity as children but then later were more abundant - and then followed that through their kids and grandkids.
Anyways, that's how hoarding has manifested in my family. I'm grateful it's never gotten to the levels we've seen in the video for me, but if I didn't have help, I'm honestly afraid it would. It's a painful disorder.
Grief and growing up poor seem to be a very common factor I've noticed in the show. I myself have a cousin who's father (one of my uncles) died suddenly while my cousin was still a teenager and he is a mild-moderate hoarder of sentimental objects I suspect because of it. I understand sentimentality and hanging on to memories but he will hang onto things like the spent remnants of fireworks he setoff when he proposed to his now wife.
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so proud of you for the work you do in your life. It's hard, so very hard, to work through trauma and be good to ourselves. I'm sure you've been tired of it all many times, but you pushed through, and I'm so so proud.
The bit about the containers sounds like it may have been OCD (something bad will happen if...)
@@krs9748 Not a full-blown diagnosis but yeah, OCD traits is what is officially listed in my chart. It was really late developing though and honestly, I think it might've been medication related. I got off my SSRI recently after 20+ years on it. I had a few moments where I wanted to keep a container, threw it away anyway, and now it's all gone. No more container doom.
I'd like to see you react to My Strange Addiction, because I'd like to hear how disorders like Pica are treated and if it could be bad enough to require sectioning.
I've always been torn on these Hording shows because often the general "tone" of them has often seemed " LOOK HOW SHITTY AND DISGUSTING THESE PEOPLE ARE!"
and they don't approach from the best or most sensitive place in an attempt to reach a better understanding.
And often it seems to just come down to "We need to fix the mess, discard stuff and then the hoarding is resolved." When it's much more complex than that, though yeah all of the accumulated items ARE a problem, not just health and safety wise.
But their root issues still need active support, ideally also with "care in the community" type support otherwise things will repeat themselves.
It's heartbreaking seeing the state of things these people live in.
I've lived with hoarders, and been at such a low, hopeless place in my depression and past addictions that I've lived in a similar mess and not just the incredibly shame and embarrassment but how even the IDEA of fixing and cleaning it was just such a Herculean task that I couldn't even begin.
Thankful that's decades ago and long in my past.
I really hope these people get help and continue to.
Both can be true, they're INDEED shitty and disgusting BUT they also need help. There's no way you see that and think 'Yeah, that's not shitty or disgusting 🌼🌼' unless you're desensitised to that sort of living from person experience like you explained. For those, like myself, who has never been in such a space, I can tell you that I was gagging whilst watching this and that's normal.
thank you for talking about ocd in a correct way, lot of youtubers often misuse ocd meaning they like thing tidy. real ocd is a nightmare.
there are also situations that looks like hoarding but its caused by autism or adhd where the person is just overwhelmed and can't get started, big difference is that those usally welcome all help with cleaning because they don't want to live that way too
I don't think enough is said about the survivors and children of hoarders. It is such a traumatizing environment to grow up in. I grew up in a hoarder home, which makes me susceptible to hoarding. But instead it gave me contamination OCD and cptsd. I feel like nothing is ever clean enough no matter how hard I scrub and bleach.
I’ve seen this episode, it is… rough. I wonder how many people who were on this show actually kept their homes clear afterwards? Did they give the people access to therapists to treat the underlying causes? I know they have someone talk to them during the episode, but that’s hardly enough time to actually help the person.
There are some times where they follow up with people who have been on the show. I believe it's called "Hoarders where are they now". I wish they were able to follow up with more folks who have been on the show, though.
The success rate might not be great so there's probably not many follow ups in order to not shame. These poor ppl get enough.
One major issue with the show is that it’s usually a race against time. They have a weekend, or week to clear the place before it gets repossessed or condemned or something else negative. Even when not rushed like this, they are only there a few days.
At least in the way it is framed, the first day is the first meeting they have with the psychologist, though I have never understood how that works with arranging a TV crew and the show
I love how you speak with so much empathy and understanding
I love that you’re doing an analysis of a show like this. Also love how you mentioned astrology. Do I believe astrology is real? No. I can give you so many reasons why it is arbitrary. Is it fun to have this relatively simple and easy to learn about classification system to think about and talk about with others that isn’t offensive or have a history tied to problematic thoughts or people? Yes. Basically, I like astrology but not because it’s real. I like it because it’s silly and fun.
As a Christian I'm puzzled by the Rapture lady's type of hoarding for people after an event that we have no idea when it's actually coming....but there are people who are starving and needing things RIGHT NOW! If only that "helping" compulsion could be used for a food bank or homeless shelter!
The other thing I'm confused about - and I'm not Christian so maybe I have some of my Christian lore wrong - aren't the people who get left on earth after the rapture the sinners who are going to hell, or are left behind on earth and earth becomes hell? I assume that she believes that she herself will be raptured and go up to heaven - so why would she be left behind to give away all these items? And why would she want to help those who weren't raptured? And again, after the rapture (unless I'm mistaken) people will either be in hell or in heaven so I'm not sure what the need for canned goods and empty boxes will be... Is it as confusing to a Christian as it is to a non Christian lol or so I have my stories mixed up?
I am an advice manager in a London community centre. We see elderly people all the time who are hoarders and most are not engaged with any mental health or social services or even GPs. Often they will want some help, they may be asking to be moved or want their boiler fixed, but not acknowledge its hoarding that is the real issue or accept the outcome that could fix it (i.e. last minute turn down an offer of new accommodation or a clearing service). When someone is on the edge of asking for help, where they've decided something has to change but can't fully accept it, what would you recommend? Is it a case of just continually offering the support in the hope that they will eventually accept the help or are there more structured approaches to encourage someone to accept the problem before offering the solution? Also if there's any mental health experts in hoarding in London you know of? Many thanks
Plane Jane in the backround is throwing me off 😂
Kudos to you seeing that, mama.
kudos for spotting that. for noticing.
Omg, stop 😂
I worked in Group homes for those with mental illness and many of my clients were hoarders (to various degrees). The frustrating part was we cant force them to throw any out and can only intervene if they invite us to help or its clearly hazardous to their health and other's. The problem getting to that stage is that we have to prove to various bodies that it's unsafe, and often times they refuse us entry, and that means we need to get permission, which can take a while. Many clients would ask us to drive them to pick up more items that arent going to fit, but.because they have that right of autonomy, we couldnt really say no.- so it felt like we were fueling it. We wanted professionals that specialized in this area but it's sooooo expensive and the agency wouldnt foot the bill and the clients could not afford it (nor would they consent to pay it). Thus, it was constant checks to make sure the messes weren't hazardous but never actually felt truly theraputic
One of my best friends has hoarder tendencies and her parents are definitely hoarders. They could be on this show it is so bad. Interestingly, my friend does have OCD and has several relatives with Bipolar disorder. The whole family are some of the nicest people I have ever met. This mental health issue has been profoundly sad.
I wish you’d finished the episode! I’m so curious about your perspective through the rest of the process they go through on the show
Wow… I didn’t even think about the fire risk with this environment. I’ve seen many people talk about this disorder and the possible physical dangers of it, but I’ve yet to hear about fire safety. I would imagine education/awareness is essential for firefighters trying to put out fires and save lives in these specific contexts.
I very much appreciate your compassion when it comes to everything mental health; compulsive hoarding can be such an embarrassing experience to confront, but a competent mental health professional can build a patients confidence to actively tackle the issue together. My grandmother faced some of these struggles after she retired; and the only way forward was to address the entire picture of her mental health with compassion. She is doing well now ❤️ thank you for this video :)
(Also.. this top 3 for RPDR is giving season 8. I would love it if any of them won - even miss Plane “for spilling” Jane. I’d love to know your pick for the winner!)
This was an early season. By ... the season next, or the one after that?, they were saying 15 or 16M were compulsive hoarders. It's insane to think what was being 'written off' before to have that big change in numbers.
My name is Shanna. This particular episode always makes me immediately want to clean my house.
I'm sitting here saying "I do that part, but I don't do that..."
As if I can rationalize my way out of facing my own clutter.
I would love more reactions of this. My mom is a hoarder and I have some hoarding tendencies, because of that. Watching this has gave me hope and want to change, and it would improve my mental health if you made more.
My friend's mom is an extreme hoarder like this. No piles of garbage as this lady but the house was piled up to the ceiling with stuff and she had 5 dogs 2 ferrets many cats a bunch of small birds and 2 huge red macaws her station wagon was even full to the ceiling. They won the Chicago best Christmas decoration house one a year and then kept Christmas stuff piled up all over the place for decades after.
Worst was the laundry room which had water on the floor soaked clothes.
At least they tried to clean up the trash occasionally.
My friend is autistic and completely lacks the self awareness that he grew up in an unusual environment even tho his 2 brothers and sisters are fully aware.
Thank you very much for touching on this topic. I think it's important to note (however obvious it is) that these programmes are built around the idea of spectacle rather than helping those suffering, which is twisted beyond belief. I wish this topic had more awareness and play in media (in a compassionate way of course).
I would love to get an analysis on the movie Poor Things.
I think there’s so much to talk about from a mental developmental standpoint
wow, early too.
I really like your reaction to this.
I'm absolutely aware that menatl health conditions are not like "olympics of suffering", nor does it make sense to rank the gravity of situations.
And I have deep compassion for all people struggling and living miserable lives.
Therefore I really don't say this to shame or blame or anything.
Just saying that when it comes to hoarding behaviour, I allways find the subcategory of animal hoarding to be especially tragic. There's no denying the animal keepers need help to, but it also pains me to know how much misery the hoarded animals have to go through. And the toll it puts on the already overwhelmed animal shelter system.
Plus it's so hard to treat, even with the legal system involved, exactly because the hoarder, if untreated, will likely continue the compulsive behaviour.
About family therapy, I could see that many people might not be really wanting or seeing why they should get "on board".
I sadly can say that's exactly what I experienced. When I first came in contact with mental health care for anorexia and depressions I was 15 years old. My mother half-heartedly accepted some "family sessions", but was not really engaged. At some points she willingly ignored points that the professionals had worked out to be important for me. She completely rejected to have my older sister involved (and she was a big issue for me to as ahe was abusing me). She said to want to "spare" my sister the hard experience. My mother, sister and grandparents were like you are the problem, you fix it. My sis "I'm not the sick one, so the focus should rather me keeping at least me sane".
Also my mother was afraid/ashamed of what people may say, blaming me to make her seem like a bad mother.
She also valued my shool grades and progress over anything else (did sad since shool had started), one time hospitalize me 2 weeks before end of the holidays to have me "physically strengthened" (weight gain, regular nutrition) before the new shool year. For two weeks. Planned beforehand. I left hospital with a little forced weight gain and al lot more misery. I was glad to leave, did not want to be in hospital in the first place. But it was likely not a good way to pproach the issue. My ED is chronified by now. I'm 37.
Happy times... not.
Just saying I think there a lots of complex reasons why it might be hard for families to actually accept and understand the importance of family therapy.
I'm pretty sure it might have been helpful.
shanna is definitely a memorable hoarder and one of the top 5 in terms of how dangerously unsanitary her behaviors were, but the one that was most psychologically fascinating to me was... i think they called her judy? she was primarily a food hoarder and that extended to things SHE perceived as potential food like ROADKILL. her husband was extremely abusive and she talked about how she turned to "cooking" and how she "loved to cook," and her daughter had all these horror stories from childhood about opening the fridge to get some butter and seeing a dead squirrel on top of it or how she would make roadkill pie. at one point they uncovered a jar of mystery... wads... that was dated 25 years ago, and judy opened it up and ate one on camera. i'm thoroughly convinced that judy was so severely abused that she snapped and started trying to basically poison her family in retaliation.
Dear Doctor Elliott I would love it if you reacted to Season 9 episode 6 of Hoarders which involves a woman named Sandra who's hoard is in a massive formerly beautiful historical mansion called the Julian Price Mansion and the lovely gay couple who have bought the mansion who are absolute SAINTS with more empathy and patience than most human beings. Truly, they are absolute angels!
It was a stunning home that they restored and Sandra's story is a particularly interesting case.
I do warn however....its a very frustrating and second-hand anxiety inducing episode that lead me needing multiple breaks when I watched it
oh my god i'm so early lmao, btw dr elliot, i love your hairstyle in this video! it suits you really well 😊
I love your sweater! :)
Thank you for the great way you approach this, without voyeurism. Just one tip, maybe raise the volume of the videos you are reacting too. I have to turn up my volume for those parts and then down when you speak.
Looking around my house, I'm wondering if this is just my ADHD or if I might be a hoarder.
Is it OK to save all boxes stuff come in, just in case you need to pack the thing away later, even after 5-8 years? Or is that hoarding?
Is keeping that old printer in the corner, that ran out of ink 5 years ago, considered hoarding?
A piece of context I think you're missing since you're from the UK is that the End Times and Rapture theology was invented in the United States. As a result, a lot of books and several movies made here have it in them, and whole churches believe in it. The woman uses the term "Left Behind-ers", a reference to the Left Behind series of books that feature this theology and made it more well-known in the mainstream. Those books are nearly 30 years old. Churches based around it date back over a century. So in this case, treating the patient could mean treating decades of a belief system or even a belief system that they were born into and is the only one they've ever known. You're not just arguing with God, you're trying to rework a fundamental part of how this person has understood the world to work since they were old enough to think. It's not like astrology where you get into it later on in life. And unlike astrology, you can attend a church that believes this - which means that there's an entire congregation that will back her on her beliefs and behaviors.
I genuinely feel so bad for her. She's facing a situation even worse and even harder to overcome than normal hoarding. There are podcasts, books, movies and churches feeding into her beliefs. It's eating away at her quality of life, but it's something that circumstances have allowed her to internalize as not only normal, it's morally correct to her. And even the most rational, well-adjusted atheists I know would have a very hard time giving up a behavior that they believe is truly moral.
As someone with ocd you said there is no pleasure. I change that concept, there is pleasure for the few seconds when it’s done, it’s pleasurable. Like when you have finally got to the end and ocd say’s enough or completed and you feel like you can breath again that moment is good. And your constantly doing these things to get to that point.
As someone who also has ocd I don't get any pleasure just shame its interesting how it differs
Would you not say that it isn’t pleasure, but simply relief?
@SR-mz8nn I used to get relief but now it's just shame lmao
For me this raises the question of cultural influences on phenomena like psychosis and delusions (as well as good ol’ rationalizations). Like, I live in Sweden and we’re known for not being particularly religious at the macro level, so the “End Times cultural/cognitive script” isn’t really readily available for the majority of us. On a similar note, according to some article I read (great source work amirite) the content of auditory hallucinations varies with cultural setting, so that for instance Americans were more likely to have violence-related hallucinations compared to people from Ghana (who, according to that same article, apparently mostly reported “pleasant conversations with God”).
(Also just to be clear I’m not saying all Americans are super religious or super pro guns, just that those themes are far more common in the US compared to my home country.)
Is how you handle the situation different if you're working with someone who still hoards even though they feel terrible about it and know it's unsafe versus someone who sees it as normal?
It’s good they’re using the show to try and get rid of a lot of the misconceptions and ill will towards sufferers, but they do dramatize it for tv and a lot of the ways that you hear the people in the show talk to and about the individuals is actually doing more harm than good.
I like to think that after I die, people will see my collections of stuff and mistake it for a weird art project and say something like, "😢 she was so dedicated"
Really interesting to hear Dr Elliot's perspective on this. But as this show is a realtiy tv show purely for entertainment and is likely edited in such a way to make the situation seem maybe worse than it is - is it worth Dr Elliot mentioning this at the start? I guess regardless of how curated the show may be, there is still some interesting and insightful aspects of psychology to learn.
This was really quiet for me, even at max volume, any way the next one could be louder for your HoH subscribers?
Agreed. I don't have any hearing issues but it was still way too quiet for me on max volume.
Get better speakers
same
@@braydenj1327 it's not the speakers you mong
I hope poor Shanna has a better life next time💔 Nobody deserves that!!
12:09 the sign I'M OKAY behind her is killing me. Don't know if that is addressed in the video. Do you think it's her trying to tell herself she's fine the way she is and she doesn't have to change or ask for help?
People in the comments saying the woman stockpiling for the rapture "makes no sense" and "why wouldn't she just help people right now instead of saving all this stuff for later??" Y'all...the thing about delusional thinking is that, get this, its delusional. It makes no logical sense except to the person(s) experiencing it. When I experience hypomania, or mixed episodes, logic and insight take a flying leap out the window. I hear things, and feel and think in ways that make absolutely no sense to anyone but myself, and while its happening I completely believe it. Its only after i "come down" that i realize how nonsensical my episodes are and the overwhelming shame and embarrassment sets in. Dr Elliot said it himself, insight is not black and white. Its a spectrum, and it can wax and wane depending on several factors. Just because you can't understand it, it doesn't make it any less real for the person suffering.
Yessssss I love this 😀
My dad when frustrated will shoot a water bottle over me. My skin IS almost Always Open and hurting (Neurodermitis) so i would ne freezing with visably Open wounds.
Really interesting video! I'm just adding the obligatory "more Hannibal" comment here 😅
I don't agree that ocd has no pay off and is all suffering and hoarding is all pay off and no suffering. As someone living with both and who's known many other sufferers that has not been my experience
I'd love to hear your opinion on a real case of a man called Raoul Moat.
I wonder if you've seen Baby Reindeer.
I always have a hard time with the entire concept of this show, because as you touched on a bit - it feels a bit voyeuristic. And I recall stumbling upon it and just seeing so, so many animals in various states of neglect, or even dead, and it really left a strong negative impression on me. But I am sympathetic to this condition and I know I can trust this channel to handle it in a way where I can watch and learn from it. I also hope it isn't strange to say, but I'm loving the look today!
I liked the notion about the government notices. Because i'm sure there are people who actually are lazy or don't realise that certain types of waste will contaminate waters/attract rats/bring all other kinds of trouble, and that should be punished for sure. There should be some kind of inclusivity, how to make it work for actual lazies and be compassionate towards those with mental illnesses
Since you are the expert, how do you diagnose a "lazy" as opposed to an illness? Make sure you can prove that the lazies are lazy, and not ill too. We don't need misdiagnosis.
A couple of random questions: is this disorder seen more in women than in men? Because everytime I watch a documentary on this it is mostly women who are shown but rarely men.
Is the yellow dude missing fron your lgbt statuette? I got distracted looking for him and I just didn`t see him.
How is religion seen in psychology/psychiatry? Isn't the belief in god(s) technically a delusion? When woud one consider religiosity as abnormal/unhealthy?
They defined it in the video - fixed, false beliefs. How are you going to prove God false? If you can’t do so (as most humans cannot), then you can’t call it false. That’s where psychiatrists have a line about religionz
Hoarding disorder is most common in men.
I don't recall his name, but the guy on the left of the thumbnail on the screen 14:30-15mins in would insult the people the show was purportedly helping, say really cruel things to them, & act like hoarding was just a choice they made. He in particular made the show so hard to watch.
As someone who's watched a lot of this show, I can say that's probably because he has absolutely no mental health specialty experience and that isn't why he's there. He's the extreme cleaning specialist, basically his job is just getting the house as clean as possible according to what the government/whatever association is demanding of the homeowner. His position is not useless at all, and in the severe cases where people are at risk of losing their homes he becomes very important in meeting the necessary result. They almost always have both someone like him and someone who is a therapist of some kind, and the two don't always have the same goals. He is, however, also a huge jerk, yeah.
@@jijitters Please. If you've watched it then you know the only purpose is causing tv drama for people to gawk at. There's nothing genuine behind the show's motives. They take advantage of people who need help, for ratings.
@@neekromancer That's just reality TV babe, welcome to the 90s.
That all excuses for them to blame and keep doing what they doing they will just say what doctors say
I can smell that house 🤢
I avoid this show because it's profoundly depressing 🤮
Same i just can't deal with the fact this exists and can happan to all of us. 😢
How can anyone live like that?
She's ill. You could just as easily ask the the same question for many other mental illnesses
I hope, one day, that joy will return to your eyes, Doctor. I'm thankful you are spending time to educate others even in such difficult times,I hope you find healing in work, somehow. I hope it doesn't sound.. weird and overreaching but Your mom must have been so incredibly proud of who You have become and I hope that I can make mine proud too, before it's her time or mine. Be well, I hope You know how much You and Your kindness matter to all of us strangers strewn across the world ❤️🩹
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I’m a medical student in Namibia and I went to specialise in Psychiatry when I’m done. Thank you so much for the videos because they’re super informative and a fun way to consolidate said information. 😭🥹 Also, it’s always fun to see the screenshots of Drag Race in the background 😂