Cirrus SR22T Flight to Telluride - In Over Our Skis
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Follow our adventures flying with our two dogs around the country and beyond. This episode takes you to Telluride Colorado, home of one of the most dangerous airports in the U.S.
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“They forgot the chocks” 🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣 That’s 100% on you there, Jake!!
I should have explained the situation or not shown it at all. We had called in fuel for the day before. When we got to the airport we had loaded everything up into the airplane, I pre-flighted the airplane and untied it (no chocks). We got in, preflighted the avionics and discovered it was not fueled. Lyneé stayed in the airplane and I ran in and asked them to fuel it. They chocked it, were fueling it and I thanked them and hoped back into the airplane as they finished. We fired up and figured out they did not un-chock after fueling. My fault yes as I should have gotten back out of the plane and pre-flighted once again. I should have explained the entire situation in much more detail.
Great video. Nice flying. Beautiful commentary, views, and reviews. Stay safe and Happy Landings!!! 😊
You guys are amazing. Really enjoy the content of your videos. Thank you so much.
Definitely a nice video! Love seeing flights in that SR 22T. Great production as well. I didn’t know you could put oxygen on dogs! Nicely done!
Thank you!
Beautiful! Glad you made the landing!
Nice video and SR22T flight! Thanks for posting it.
Nice video and footage, looking forward to more videos.
Thank you!
Figured this channel had 100k+ subscribers. Glad to be here early🙌🏻 Great video!👏🏻
Maybe the people that don’t subscribe are dog-lovers.
beautiful video! congratulations!
I used to work the ramp at Telluride.
The airport is one of the most beautiful and challenging airports in the States. The town itself is Magical. The skiing is challenging, tiring and amazing. 100% recommend T-ride to everyone. Unfortunately you have to be ready to spend an unbelievable amount of money for a stay in town. Mountain Village is just as expensive but that being said soooooo worth it.
Anyway nice job on the decision making, going around 2x and then trying a different set up for approach 3. I’ve seen some of the craziest takeoffs and landings there. Diverting to Montrose or Durango is always an option. Good job guys!
Thank you! It’s definitely a wild place but we agree worth it and so different from any mountain town we’ve been to! We will be back!
@@Elivate. Try Wengen, Switzerland
I really like this couple, their cool plane, their commentary, their video quality, and especially their Poodles.
We especially love the poodles too. Thank you!
Love seeing a 22T out of Waukesha! Great video guys!
Excellent quality of production reckon your channel will really grow
Hope so!
@@Elivate. build you flying experience carefully.its a dangerous business
We’re watching this right now and you’re making me crazy!! 🤯😱
Haha it’s ok!
Producing video content is tough work and thank you for taking the time to do so! You guys did awesome. And sorry about the bad comments here, because people are a-holes. I will say, as an experienced pilot, the chalk conversation misses the point. The amount of times that FBO will not only forget the chalk but also not put the fuel cap on properly is definitely higher than 0% (even if rare). Unsure of your checklist protocol, and I understand it’s as super cold, but generally the fuel gets checked when the lights get checked during the initial electronics checklist. You just never know how that third party might damage your plane after fuelling. I personally would much rather fly with the confidence that I was the last person to touch the plane and while it’s so so so rare that something goes wrong, if someone does something on the outside of your plane, there’s no way to fix it when you’re in the air. From my time in aviation, this is where mistakes happen. Small mistake, not checking fuel before starting the engine. Small mistake, rushing by not wanting to get outside the plane because the engine is already on. Small mistake, call HBO to remove the chalks. Each step increases your odds of failure 0.0001%, and at the wrong time, that won’t be in your favour. Sorry, I don’t want to be another rando with an opinion and again you guys deserve a billion credits for producing a video! Just yeah, that stuff worries me personally.
Excellent points. We understand how we edited the video removes a lot of our process as we thought it would be boring for those to witness. After the comments I see we should be including more of the reality behind flying safely. We are in the middle of our next one and please tune in to see the contrast. It was recorded back in May of 2023 and we are not removing pre flights and checklists during the editing. Only issue I see is the video will be longer!
Well, when i saw the thumbnail and the first clip, stereotypes kicked in and i was sure to only watch the actual incidence and then nope out again, but..... You two are not only extremly sympathetic, the video is also so well done 🥲 LOVE the realness, LOVE the focus of including the experience of the town, airbnb and skiing and I LOVE how you two made this video an experience. Good luck and much fun on the RUclips Journey ✌
Wow thank you for the positivity!
What a great video!!
Great Video! Love the dog O2 set up! I have a psi cabin now but that would have been nice for my dog!
Lucky dog!
Great video! Awaiting delivery of our 2024 SR22T Special Edition later this year and just discovered your channel. Subscribed and will be following along!
Congratulations on the Special Edition!
There is a chance you may be receiving a G7!? We just got an invite to the “reveal” on Thursday night. It's speculation but solidly based. Crossing our fingers for you that is quite exciting either way!
We had a chance to get a little sneak peak when we were choosing Special Edition paint and interior options, but still very much in the dark as to what we're actually going to be receiving. Counting down the hours until the Thursday reveal!! @@Elivate.
New viewer and subscriper. Nice job Cirrus brother and sister!
Thank you so much!
Really great video! Love your plane! Such a capable aircraft! Once you’re instrument rated, another world will open up to you. Looking forward to future adventures.
Thank you very much! I did receive my instrument rating shortly after this video. And you are right, the world opens up and safety is increased. We fly almost exclusively IFR now. Looking forward to providing more content. Thank you for your support!
I’m based at KTEX and learned to fly in my SR22T at KTEX and all the surrounding airports. Often the south winds are quite variable and wind shear is an issue taking off or landing. That day you landed, when the plane flipped over, is about as bad as it gets. KMTJ is where most people go on days like that.
What a beautiful place to be based! Yah we’ve been using Montrose more often than not to get in and out a bit easier and safer. But nothing is as gorgeous as Telluride.
The SR22 requires full flaps for any conditions. But I understand you had to deal with a special situation.
Niko! We have been subscribed and following your channel for the last 4 years or so on our viewing channel. You were a major role to inspire me to get certificated and get into a Cirrus. You also have helped us with camera placement and interior selections. Thank you! We love your channel. Keep flying safe and sharing your missions!
Awesome video
I mean- definitely things to work on but great video editing and all that- love the plane
If you’re ever in TYS, come tour cirrus TYS- it’s a fun place- I’d be happy to show you around
I would suggest doing the run up clear of the runway.. just to prevent the chance of a runway collision.. especially at night! I’m a CFII Commercial with 53 years of flying.. got my Private in November of 1970 at KUES! I’ve owned a 1963 P-35 Bonanza since 1990, hangared at 57C till 2019 now I’m retired and kept it at KMRY and although i still live in Delavan, WI I go to Monterey, CA monthly for flying with my identical twin who lives out there. He’s a retired USAF C-5 career Pilot and also got his Private at KUES in October of 1970!
to Monterey, CA
We do a off runway run-up about 99% of the time. Arapahoe was a little different as we were there for so long chatting with those guys that our cht’s dropped below 200 degrees so we used the taxi to get them up above 250 to do a proper yet expedited run-up. Thank you for sharing your experience and history! Congratulations for keeping your ticket through so many years. That is extremely impressive. Hopefully we can meet some day. Happy retirement to you and your family.
Shes so beautiful! She reminds me of my special friend Stephanie. And i wouldn't have been able to resist tickling her a little when she was reaching and struggling to zip up the dogs. 😅
I do that off camera 😉
@@Elivate. lol
Great video; but euh, normally the PIC is responsible for removing the chocks..... and after fueling, you definitely want to double check that the fuel caps are closed, and do one more walk around... having said that, with 2,000 hrs, I recently forgot my own chocks as well.
We had called in fuel for the day before. When we got to the airport we had loaded everything up into the airplane, I pre-flighted the airplane and untied it (no chocks). We got in, preflighted the avionics and discovered it was not fueled. Lyneé stayed in the airplane and I ran in and asked them to fuel it. They chocked it, were fueling it and I thanked them and hoped back into the airplane as they finished. We fired up and figured out they did not un-chock after fueling. Partly my fault yes as I should have gotten back out of the plane and pre-flighted once again. I should have explained the entire situation in much more detail.
Awesome Video!
Love the Dogs!
Nice Vid !!! I just Subscribed , thank you guys ,!!!
New sub, ignore the keyboard warriors. I’m jealous of the trip, beautiful scenery.
Thank you, we will!
Tiny point of clarification at 5:33, you can't "legally fly the instrument approach" if you're not (1) instrument rated and (2) instrument current. What you did was fly a VFR practice approach -- which isn't an approach technically.
Good point. I should have worded that the way you did!
I like that template on your notes.
Great video and really happy you landed safely, but really questioning your ADM. I own a 2020 SR22T and the max demonstrated crosswind is 21kts, if I heard correctly you had a 25kt direct xwind which makes that landing a no go for me, especially with wind shear. I would hate to see your video on one of the crash debrief sites making these observations. Please stay safe, no video is worth it. Additionally,make sure you sump after taking on fuel, water is a killer as well. Good luck with the channel.
Excellent points. We understand how we edited the video removes a lot of our process as we thought it would be boring for those to witness. After the comments I see we should be including more of the reality behind flying safely. We are in the middle of our next one and please tune in to see the contrast. It was recorded back in May of 2023 and we are not removing pre flights and checklists during the editing. Only issue I see is the video will be longer!
Lineman forgot the chocks!!!? Pre flight!
Great Video and views!
Thanks 👍
Explanation about the chocks above. I don’t blame your comment I should have explained the situation better.
"the lineman forgot our chocks" lmao its okay to admit you forgot them instead of displacing blame. 91.3 and all
We had called in fuel for the day before. When we got to the airport we had loaded everything up into the airplane, I pre-flighted the airplane and untied it (no chocks). I got in, preflighted the avionics and discovered it was not fueled. Lyneé stayed in the airplane and I ran in and asked them to fuel it. They chocked it, were fueling it and I thanked them and hoped back into the airplane as they finished. We fired up and figured out they did not un-chock after fueling. Partly my fault yes as I should have gotten back out of the plane and pre-flighted once again, but it was 10 below freezing and they knew we were waiting inside the plane to fire up. I did not feel it was necessary to go into all those details, but I guess..
@@Elivate.welcome to the youtube comments of everyone assuming and seeing things umpteen different ways lol
@@Elivate. 91.3. Your fault 100% champ. "I was cold and lazy" isn't an excuse. If they left a fuel cap off and you took off it would be 100% your fault too.
YOU are responsible. What else did you miss? This (your aviation future) isn’t going to end well - if you can afford a Cirrus buy the ticket. Enjoy your Cirrus only when flying is enjoyable.
Noticed you didn’t eyeball the fuel etc. etc.
Yes . Always a good idea as long as runway is long enough . The years I was doing mountain flying I had a under powered aircraft without a turbo. Quite frankly I just got tired of it , the more experience I gained the more I realized it was just was not an adequate machine for what I was doing .
Thanks for the reply! I loved your video! It would be great to meet sometime! Fly safely!!
Awesome!
Nice Cirrus. We pilots don't like the fast forwarding of the landing attempts at Telluride. That's what we come here for. The destinations come in second place. Please show us those special moments.
Thank you! We totally agree. This was the first trip we were documenting and were trying to figure out what to and to not record, and learning what settings to use on the cameras and battery longevity. We were running low on the last battery so we put the Hero in Timelapse mode facing out. My wife was recording with her phone as well but once she started feeling what was happening she put her phone down, tightened her restraints and focused on what was most important with me. We have gotten better over time and will get you some much better content moving forward.
Well, there’s a reason some pilots gloss over that aspect of their videos. LOL
Great video. You should do more.
I learned to fly at UES in 2017. IFR 1 year later, flew a 22 for 1.5 years. Now in a DA62 out of ATW. I’ve also been to TEX 2x after receiving mtn instruction. Fun to see others do the same. Try Leadville next!
Nice to meet you! Hopefully we meet sometime at an AP. How are you liking you DA62? We like everything about them, gorgeous capable airplanes.
@@Elivate. the 62 had a nice fit and finish, but sadly it has experienced a few issues requiring 2 new engines (at 150h) and multiple sensor failures. I fly 125-150h/y. TAS 185-189 at 15k. If you’re ever in Appleton or Ephraim I’m usually nearby. Keep up the good work!
LIFE IS GOOD!
Ignore the negativity. You already have people thinking you flew through the clouds to land. 🤨
Loved the video. I took a mountain flying course out of eagle Colorado several years back. It is a must for mountain flying safety. Look it up if you have a few days!!
I would suggest you tighten your seat belt shoulder harness combination such that the belt is around your waist, not around your stomach. You will get used to it and find it quite comfortable, besides safer.
Scud running ice????
Good call. We have been doing that but they loosen a little as you move around and it creeps up slowly.
@@Elivate. Always check right before the crash, too.
💖💖💖 Telluride. Fun video. 👍👍👍
10 minute Uber ride $150, crazy. Just checked car rental with drop off at different location Montrose (usually higher) $116
Good call. We just went back to Telluride a couple weeks ago and landed in montrose instead. Rented a Tesla model y for a week and it was only about $700 total for the week. Not bad!
Great video, beautiful city, and awesome production quality too! When it comes time to purchase my first plane, I'm torn between the sr22t and a Diamond DA50. How have you liked the sr22t so far?
I’ve heard great things about the DA50. Sat in one at EAA but never flew one. I’d say a turbo is not ideal to learn in. A NA is a little better and less expensive fuel burn and better for learning engine management. I’ve got some buddies who learned in SR20’s and I learned in a SR22. I’d say one of those is slightly better to learn in than a Turbo. T’s are great cross country high altitude machines. Naturally Aspirated are better for shorter and lower altitude trips.
Yeah known a few people locally SR22 that crashed within a few years by flipping on landing.
Hopefully they made it out ok!
The quarry makes for an interesting left base and final into 28 at KUES.
TEX is no joke even in a turbo . If I had 2 missed approaches due to wind shear I would have prob diverted to Montrose. I have done lots of mountain flying & each year I did it less and less in piston aircraft . Please be careful up there
Totally. We were diverting to Montrose as a backup plan if it did not feel much better with flaps 50. Fortunately it did and we learned something we will never forget.
Heck yeah this is sweet!
Thank you! We appreciate the comment especially with it being a new channel it helps us.
Fun video to watch! Look forward to some more videos hopefully soon. Love the interior of your SR22T. Looks like you have a G3 so I am assuming you had the interior custom refinished? Who did you use to refinish the interior?
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
The interior was done by a shop called Midwest Aircraft Refinishing. Ask for Ross. They are known as the best interior and paint shop for Cirrus in the country. He is doing our full exterior custom paint job in June. Looking forward to making vids about that too.
Just looked at their website. They look awesome. Thanks for the info, will be reaching out to them soon!
Great video! Thank you for making it. I have a question though... How did you get through that cloud layer on the way home without an instrument rating? It looked pretty solid en-route, as well as at the destination.
Thank you! There was about 30 min time between those clips. The layers were separated by a couple thousand feet. I can see how the video editing makes it look like those clips were back to back.
Add Catalina to your list for a sporty landing.
How do you get rated to fly into known icing? Never heard of that being a thing. Your plane can either handle it or it can’t. No actual rating just for ice
I was simplifying the explanation for the audience. As you know the plane is FIKI. Cirrus requires 24 month recurrent training to operate their FIKI system. I had taken that course a few months prior to this video. But since I was not Instrument rated in this video and icing occurs 98% of the time in IMC, I was not “rated” to fly into IMC or needing to use the FIKI system.
Yeah, the flaps on final with gusty winds, and you never mentioned adding a gust component to your approach speed. Both are important. Many are intimidated by the idea of a no-flaps landing, but frequently you find that the headwind component is enough to make it feel normal.
Great video. What is max demonstrated crosswind on SR22? Crazy landing at Telluride !
Max demonstrated is 21kts for the certification. The airplane can handle much more, but it’s not advisable. We almost diverted to Montrose and would have if the third attempt did not feel safe.
Do you think you could send me the booking site for that awesome summer cabin you stayed in?? Looks gorgeous.
We are reluctant because we want it available to us, but it's only fair! abnb.me/FI1sbkuXdGb
Great fun! We fly with our dogs too in our Baron. What are the oxygen “masks” and ear protection that you use for your dogs? Thanks.
They are from www.4pawsaviation.com. Fantastic company to work with! Thanks for watching!
You've got a stunning interior for a G3. Where did you get it done? Well done on the Go Arounds.
Ross at Midwest Aircraft Refinishing is the person to see! His shop is incredible. We are booked for a full exterior custom paint job with him in June. Looking forward to making some videos on that.
Good thinking about your flaps I’m pretty sure if you didn’t think about it you would have been flipped also. Nice job.
Thank you!
Good stuff! How many hours do you have at the time of this video? Makes me kinda want a Cirrus.
Thank you! I had just over 250 hrs tt during this video. 200 of which was cirrus time. I’m approaching 500 hrs now cirrus time. We captured a lot of that and hope to share the experience in the near future. If you try cirrus I can assure you will enjoy it.
Super cool video and good insights about Telluride. You do some really good video work. I do have a safety concern I couldn't ignore: It appears that the seat belts are tightened incorrectly. The lapbelt portion should be tight so that if you flip over (or hit heavy turbulence) you are held to the seat by the lapbelt and won't smash into the ceiling. Once the lapbelt is tight then you cinch down the shoulder harnesses to keep your body from being able to hit the panel. It looks like your harnesses are overall "tight", but the lapbelt portion is way too high on your body allowing for significant vertical movement. When the belt is buckled, loosen your shoulder harnesses, cinch down the lapbelt, then re-tighten the shoulder harnesses. Hopefully that makes sense and I hope to see you guys in future videos!
Thank you for this feedback! In the cirrus, the upper portion of the shoulder harness is constant tensioned by spring. The lower section (belt) is tensioned manually. You are correct, they are too loose in the video. They loosen over time exaggerating the issue. To reduce the issue, we got new rubber grommets from Cirrus that help the belt buckles stay tensioned. Hopefully you see them stay lower in future videos!
Nice video! Just found your channel. Fellow Cirrus pilot. I’m curious, what did you mean in the beginning YOU were not rating to fly into known icing? Do you mean because you didn’t have an instrument rating? Have you since received it?
You can fly through icing conditions without being in IMC.
Excellent comment. Cirrus requires a 24 month recurrent training icing awareness course. I had taken the course about 3 months before this trip, but I was not instrument rated at that time. So I technically was current in the operation of FIKI on the aircraft but the icing conditions we were avoiding were IMC conditions so we stayed away from them.
I think he is just dumbing it down for non pilots. Using the alphabet soup aviation lingo has is too confusing; IMC,IFR, FIKI. Keeping it basic is more appealing to a wider cross section of views.
Liked your commentary. Very professional and informative. Pertinent , relevant , flying commentary. No B.s. Watched the woman from Tennessee before her demise and was shocked on how cavalier she was. Next time, try Crested Butte. Think you will like it. I subscribed . Look forward to seeing more. Be safe.
That’s very kind of you! It’s our first video, thank you for the feedback.
Great video, subscribed! Telluride looked beautiful. Out of curiosity, how many hours do you have? I'm a pretty low time pilot still and flying into there looks daunting to say the least. I think you said you didn't have your IFR cert? How did you get through that solid looking deck around the 27-28 min mark of the video?
I was not IFR at the time, but I did receive the rating about 6 months ago. There was about 30 min time between those two clips and those layers were about 2,000 ft apart so we were able to maintain all clearances.
Removing the chocks is a crucial step in the pre-flight checklist, and it is the responsibility of the pilot in command to ensure they are removed before starting the plane. While it may be an honest mistake, don't blame the linemen. Remember, the lack of attention to detail can be fatal in aviation.
My intention is not to give you grief, but it's essential to bear in mind that pilots are most susceptible to accidents between 400 and 600 hours of total flight time. This stage is characterized by solid physical skills and overconfidence, yet experience and knowledge remain limited. Be safer.
I 100% agree with you. I did not represent the entire story well at all in the video. Much more transpired than that and I should have not included it at all or I should have explained it much better. Please see previous replies as to what truly happened. You will see a lot more flight detail in upcoming videos better representing our flight habits.
Everybody’s done it. Move on.
Loved your adventure and we certainly share your love for Telluride! Very curious, how did you rig O2 for your pooches? Specifically, where did you find your dog’s oxygen tent and did you find one with a flow meter? I have a G3 series SR22T and an 11 ½ year old Goldendoodle. Yes! She still loves to fly, though now we take it year by year with our Molly. Any advice would be welcome and appreciated.
Hello! Use an OEM flow meter that came with your G3 and connect it to a large mask from www.4pawsaviation.com The owner will gladly answer any questions you have. We have taken them up to FL250 and they have done great. We also protect the dogs hearing with dog earplugs and a head wrap to keep from shaking them out. We are planning to make a video of the oxygen and ear protection set up soon. Best wishes!
@@Elivate. Thank you for your prompt and thoughtful response. I look forward to your video on pups and oxygen! Much needed based on current RUclips content. Best!
Just seeing this now. We just trickled in some more poodle action since then. Will be providing much more soon.
Now i know what you both look like. Wish i had seen more of the takeoff and landing and dash and forward views. Maybe next time???
Totally. Learning here what to film and what not to film. There will be more action forward and out in upcoming videos.
@@Elivate. Excellent. I look forward to following along. I fly out of KBJC and love our mountains. Haven’t done Telluride yet. Want to do Steamboat soon also. An “exciting” glide path there. Us pilots love watching the gauges, the navigator, the throttle, manifold and mixture - and the auto-pilot. Also good to see the runway view widen-out at the flair. No need to see outside in IMC. Best of luck. Thanks for the reply.
Just seeing this now. Upcoming videos will have better views!
Nice video and good editing. Good job with the dogs and the O2, I have never seen that. I would highly recommend you get some time with an actual CSIP instructor as they will make you much better in the aircraft. CAPS is NOT available when the safety pin is in the handle and the cover is covering the handle. You want this to actually be "available" and this is also part of the checklist in the POH. Recommend taking the cover off and tucking it under the handle and pulling the pin and sticking it on the shelf by the MFD. THEN - CAPS is actually available.
Thank you! This is our second cirrus, so I have had 6 full days of CSIP training, plus we hire him for recurrent training every 6 months or so. The caps pin is removed and in my front side pocket and is visible from my seat. This makes it a fast and accurate checklist item. The caps cover is simply an opinion. I have several reasons for keeping the cover on that I’ll get into in further videos. We are also going to include how we perform checklists in future videos. This is our first one and we thought people would be bored by it so we did not show them. But it’s apparent people want to see them!
@@Elivate. and just remember, no matter how many hours you accrue, ratings you earn, or calories you expend to become a proficient pilot, there will always be some a@@hat on the Internet to tell you "you're doing it wrong"!
Excellent!
Just seeing this now. This is good, and true 😆
You don't need any music...unless it was on your headset.
Yah we learned the hard way with this one. We had music playing in our headsets for all the flights. I found 3rd party software that was able to remove about 80% of it. The other 20% we were able to get the volume of the music turned down but could not eliminate all the lyrics. We learned our lesson and now always shut off the music for any filming.
You had an iPad with CRAFT on it. Which app is that?
ForeFlight App.
Thank you!!
One crucial lesson from my instructor: when landing in crosswind, avoid using flaps. Additionally, always personally inspect the aircraft if someone else handles fueling or places chocks. Thanks for the helpful video, it aligns with my instructor's advice.
Great points! Thank you for sharing.
@@Elivate. I used to subscribe to reduced flaps for crosswinds as I was taught early on, but not anymore. Reducing the energy state of the aircraft with lower airspeed (and getting rid of whats left faster) is now my priority. Flaps or no flaps, experience led me to realize that flying the airplane and reacting to conditions are all the same.
Nice video, I did a Dual Sport dirt bike ride, 6 days of peak passes in CO, We road through Telluride.
Not IFR pilot and on top of cloud deck, them below it. How was that worked?
Nice. It’s such a gorgeous area. There was a deck layer around 7K, then clear for a bit then a deck layer around 5K. Never needed to bust through. Just planned the descents accordingly.
Sorry, dont agree with the "less lift" explanation. If you're off the ground and flying then the same amount of lift is being generated. Now what I think you meant to say is that without full flaps extended the wing is experiencing a higher wing loading which will make the plane feel more stable in turbulence at the expense of a faster landing speed which is dangerous in and of itself as well. With the pre dawn departure and weather on this trip you really need to get an instrument rating please.
Yup I see what you are saying technically and yes you are correct. I should have added “at identical airspeeds” to clarify the point. I’m learning what to say, not to say and how simple or complicated to make the explanation for the audience as most are not pilots. I did receive my Instrument rating about 6 months after this video. But what we experienced along this trip was true VFR conditions, just not ideal conditions at select times.
30+ flts to Telluride in a turbo 206, with gusty conditions a little high, a little fast, with partial flaps worked best for me as well. With that said, with winds at 20k, I’d consider diverting to MTJ or CEZ and rent a car.
Good call
Pull your own chocks, preflight…but a fantastic video!!
We had called in fuel for the day before. When we got to the airport we had loaded everything up into the airplane, I pre-flighted the airplane and untied it (no chocks). We got in, preflighted the avionics and discovered it was not fueled. Lyneé stayed in the airplane and I ran in and asked them to fuel it. They chocked it, were fueling it and I thanked them and hoped back into the airplane as they finished. We fired up and figured out they did not un-chock after fueling. Partly my fault yes as I should have gotten back out of the plane and pre-flighted once again. I should have explained the entire situation in much more detail.
What do you all do for a living and are you giving out jobs?
We have a construction company, a vehicle detailing/ppf/ceramic company and an aviation detailing/ceramic company we are staying busy with.
enjoyed your video, did Capt get the instrument rating yet?
Yes we did! We have been flying almost exclusively IFR ever since. The extra safety level, structure and flying in the flight levels has been quite enjoyable.
@Elivate. Excellent, the SR22 is not really designed to be a VFR platform. Well to the system, much safer but doesn't mean you shouldn't be diligent in scanning for traffic
I always thought that those O2 dog hoods were sketchy. Maybe this has changed, but the ones I saw at EAA years ago had no provision for grounding. The combination of pure O2, dry air, plastic, and fur just sounded like a recipe for disaster.
Valid point. Never thought of it that way. But I’m guessing a full mouth/nose mask with a mustache or beard could be the same risk.
Dude, how is it that you were able to descend down through that solid overcast layer that was below you at 27:45 and then above you at 28:00???
We found a pocket!
uhm yeah I had the same question. Im also busy with my IFR training in a Cirrus. Its going to be so cool not having to search for holes in the clouds ;-) !
@@wernerwillemse3602we agree. We got our Instrument rating about 6 months ago and now almost refuse to fly VFR with all the added safety measures of IFR. You will love it and your insurance invoice will reflect it nicely too!
jesus christ…please get some more hours before making any more videos…get some mountain training…some of us are just trying to help and not be assholes about it
@@Elivate. Respectfully, I agree with @floatinflyinandfishing below. This video was posted 2 days ago, and you earned your IR six months ago. I believe that you - just like the rest of us - are a MUCH better pilot after getting your IR rating and more time in the seat. It may be useful to sit down with your CFII and slowly unpack each segment of this video from the perspective of where you were as a pilot at that time, and ADM decisions highlighted in this video. Preflight procedures, check list usage, CAPS handle access, mountain flying, and risks involved in VFR over the top. I’m not a CFI and you are certainly free to disagree with my comments and those of others, but having a trusted CFII on-call as an “accountability pilot” resource can be very valuable. I hope you and your wife are loving the Cirrus Life!
The MAXIMUM DEMONSTRATED CROSSWIND COMPONENT FOR A SR22T G6 is 21 knots! You got lucky this time. Keep pushing the limits and you’ll end up with wrecked airplane and possibly death. Not a good idea to push the limits on an airplane. One day you might not be so fortunate. Not trying to be mean. Just pointing out the fact pushing and exceeding the limits on ANY airplane can have disastrous consequences. Don’t want you guys to be a “statistic”
Maximum demonstrated for the certification yes, but that is not the limit of the airplane. But, it does give you a very good sense of what limit to try not to push. Had the third attempt not felt great, we were heading to Montrose for sure.
We own and fly a G6 22T. How many hours do you guys have flying since getting your license
In this video I had maybe 300. Currently I have just over 500 hours. Nice to hear you are part of the Cirrus family in a G6!
@@Elivate. nice! I’m sitting around the same. I have my commercial multi next month. Doing the power off 180 in a 22t is the worst lol
“Sterile cockpit” brilliant
Is it wrong to be really jealous?
How did you descend through that layer legally if you aren’t rated?
The two layers on the video were about 30 min apart and about 2,000 ft apart in altitude and luckily there was clearance between them. The entire flight was a legal vfr flight.
I think Aspen/Pitkin County airport is harder. Flew in there a few years ago in a Lear, and it's like landing in a fishbowl! BTW I couldn't find this flight in ADS-B history. When did you make this flight?
It really depends on the weather IMO. We’ve flown to Aspen a couple times and both times it’s been manageable. Very steep approach and like you say a fishbowl so for most, it’s in one way and out the same direction! We will come out with a telluride to aspen video hopefully in the near future. This Telluride trip was from March 2023.
@@Elivate.Yea after reading the NTSB report about the plane that flipped over I figured out it was March.
Just seeing this now. Yup it was March 2023
Just a heads up Taking off from Telluride the CAPS placard not removed and doesn’t look like CAPS is Armed as per check list. In the event of needing CAPS you want to be able to immediately pull the handle.
Absolutely on the caps pin. It’s always removed during flight and is part of our checklist. You will see checklists in action on future content. I disagree on the Velcro cover though. Cirrus does not give guidance one way or the other with the cover and I have reasons as to why I feel it should stay in place until an emergency. That is a subjective topic, but caps pin is black and white.
I think I remember you mentioning you weren't instrument rated at the time of this video. It also didn't seem like you were on an IFR flight plan as evidenced by you flying at 17,500ft. How'd you get down through that overcast layer at 27:40? Not sure you were 1000' above them, so you clearly must have been IFR because you were below VFR cloud separation minima. Not sure how you'd do that legally without an instrument rating, though. The jump cut at 27:58 makes it hard to ascertain how you did get through them.
There was a separation between layers. It was very close but still legal. I’ve learned since then a lot more of what to show and explain as it can be deceiving just watching small portions of the flight!
@@Elivate. Makes sense. I figured there was a hole that allowed you to get through it. I love cloud surfing - it’s one of my favorite parts about flying. Yeah altitude is hard to judge in the air in real life let alone in a video. Super cool trip. Get that instrument rating, though. It’s daunting but rewarding.
Absolutely! Finally attained my instrument rating about 6 months ago. Flight life changing.
Nice video, just don’t blame the line guy’s for your preflight.
It’s explained in the comments. I should have done a better job explaining it in the video.
U guys need to wear your belts far lower on your lap and as tight as you can.. other wise you hit a big bump your doing to knock your heads into the ceiling.. when i first bought my 22 I did not realize this and wore them the way you do.. we hit a CAT and it darn near knocked my wife and out out as we slammed into the cockpit ceiling.. just sayin..
Back then we had issues with our belts loosening over time. Since then I’ve replaced the rubber grommet stops on the belt buckles to help. It’s better now but not perfect. You should see them lower in future videos. Thanks for the tip!
On top (barely) at 17,500. Curious how you were able to get down in VFR conditions?
At 17,500 we were above the deck layer by roughly 10,000ft. The deck layer ended towards the west side of Wisconsin. Then a second layer started in central Wisconsin. So luckily we were able to pop between the layers with plenty of clearance.
@@Elivate. I was curious about the same thing, thanks!
You seem like really wonderful people. As a private pilot who hires a professional pilot… please get more flying time and your IFR before you go back into the mountains. ESPECIALLY Telluride!
Done and done! Thank you for watching and caring. Being our first video I had no idea what to or not to include and how to describe it. Our upcoming video shows a much better representation of our flying habits. It was recorded 10 months ago and we have double the time now but still is a much better representation.
YOU guys are talking about "the rich people"??!!! Looks like you're doing okay!
Well it's all relative I guess. In the private aviation world we are bottom of the barrel!
It’s all relative, my friend. If you live in America in a trailer, you’re one of the richest people in the world.
@@Elivate. uh, a fair ways from the bottom I'd say. I can point you to tens of thousands of experimental owners (moi) who would be even lower in the barrel. Maybe if you said near the bottom of the barrel for new certified GA, it would be a closer estimation. But I'm looking forward to following along to check out places I want to fly into.
“Poodle oxygen”…….OMG
Very specific oxygen only the best 😂
What do you mean *you* were “not rated to fly *legally* into known icing” in an airplane that is? I’ve never heard of an FAA known icing rating. Which regulation is that?
I was referring to IFR, since icing is incurred in IMC 95% of the time.
@@Elivate. just an fyi, I’ve had rime ice form in VFR conditions.
Just seeing this now. Good call I suppose that is possible.
There's Cirrus wealthy and then there's Uber wealthy 😂😂😂.
Well I guess like most things in life….it’s relative 😊.
@@Elivate.😎
Are you instrument rated ?
Yes I am Instrument Rated. Thank you for reaching out, it’s a new channel and all comments really help!