Einstein predicted gravitational waves, but he also said they were so minute we would never measure them. The more you learn about how difficult this is, the more you learn just how amazing this project really is.
This was an outstanding documentary, with the perfect balance between the humans and the technology involved. I've seen a ton of stuff about LIGO, but still really enjoyed it.
I admire and appreciate everything that you do at LIGO. I have zero science background but for some reason find the idea of a dynamic and endless universe comforting. Like we’re not the only game in town so my problems are literally tiny.
I can't remember when this happened, but LIGO and VIRGO (in Italy) detected a gravitational wave coming in....and two seconds later, we were hit by a gamma-ray burst. Both were coming from 130 million light years away, with only a 2 second discrepancy. Truly amazing stuff.
What an amazing piece of science, measuring something we once thought was impossible to see and opening up a new way of examining the universe. Wish they could do tours more than once a month, I'd love to see it in person.
The neatest thing about gravitational waves is that they cannot be blocked so if you build a sensitive enough detector you can detect them anywhere in the universe.
I monitored the geotechnical test borings during design of the Hanford LIGO facility . November 1992. “Best two weeks of my life,” said no one ever! 🥶🥶🥶
Yes, I do love plenty of a flatland view. My favorite. I'm from the eastern plains of Colorado. The night sky in Summer is a beauty to behold. Sigh....
When the vegetable harvest is on in that area, lots of heavy commercial trucks thundering past and around Ligo, from July 1st till Oct 31st. I am sure they are happy when that is done for the season. I know I am.
Things that were physics research 50 years ago is routine in medicine today. Who knows what part of this will be in routine diagnostics in another 50 years.
There is a huge elk population in the area aswell well over 2400, you need to remain vigilant driving through the area especially in the early morning hours.
This reminded me of some of the things I was involved in building. I worked for a company by the name of Kenlab in the SF/ Oakland bay area during the early 70s and into the 80s. I welded many aluminum tubes about 12 inches by 4 feet long. I welded aluminum flanges on them. We welded and machined and made sheetmetal parts. They were for Laurence Lab in Livermore Ca. I also worked on projects for Laurence Labs Berkley. It was equipment for them to work with Lasers. Berkley they were trying to create a Sun. It was different to say the least. The Livermore lab were going to shoot lasers down these tubes. Not sure why. Everything we made at Kenlab was hi-Tec. Like parts for Voyager or fire suppression systems that went on Airliners. It was my favorite place to work. Everyone was highly skilled and many times it was up to us to figure out how the make these things and hold tolerances at plus or minus 0.003. A few time I had to figure out how to weld something that the welding books said can’t be welded. I did and that is why we had High Tec companies coming to us. Kenlab is closed now. It closed in 2000. It was just this small job shop that most people had no idea was going on there.
Given the similarity of design and physics, I wonder what would have happened if the Michelson-Morley experiment had been sensitive enough to detect gravitational waves? This was about the same tine that Einstein was developing his theories, and the valid but not understood observations could have torpedoed his work or shot it forward 100 years. As it is, I applaud the efforts of LIGO and others in the field. They truly revolutionized astronomy.
@@mikeleahy573 They operate at 1064nm wavelength. The input laser power is of order 100 watts, but due to resonance, the stored power in the arms is hundreds of kw. To get joules, you would need to define the amount of time you dissipate the stored energy to go between the circulating arm power and joules. The resonators are very high quality mirrors separated by 4km; the light bounces between the mirrors.
Don’t make it sound as though everything is radioactive. It is not. That is just the typical emotional ignorance people use to get a reaction. Thousands of people including myself spent years. (10+ for myself) cleaning up the Hanford site. There are very few areas that have elevated radiation. The only unremediated underground waste site out in the prairie is under the parking lot at Energy Northwest. That one will be done at decommissioning. The truth is the biggest environmental problem in that place is chemical not radiological. Yes there are a few areas that will take quite a bit of time to address but it is being addressed. LIGO is located outside the secure areas of Hanford. Anyone can drive directly to it.
So far, no one has been able to prove anything can travel faster than light. However, I'm thinking there must be a way to travel over vast distances in a short amount of time. I can't seem to conceptualize the problem of time as it relates to speed....
It's not billions of dollars. It's been about 1bn spread across almost 25 years! Do the math and you'll find it amounts to about 40 CENTS per tax payer per *year*.
You're intelligent enough to say whether or not this will have any effect at all? Please explain how. Or shut up 😂 boomer, just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it can't make sense 😂😂
It's more about making connections. If you had to study a tree, would you only focus on the bark? What's important about the leaves if I know it'll grow with water. Just because they're things you can't see the value of doesn't mean it's not there undiscovered. Maybe it will be nothing. Better job than any person like yourself could do.
Believe it or not many times building these machines and technology does end up helping humanity in many other areas. Maybe some of the engineering and technology will be an insight on some medical device that could save lives. Basic science oftens has impacts we can never imagine at the time.
Very interesting. The earth In General has it very own (cicada rhythm) for lack of a better term. My question. When does technology like this along with many others integrated into the global landscape, bellow and above indirectly and Inadvertently tinker with earths own natural equilibrium. There is no scientist alive that can check ✔️ the completely safe box. Instead we build guidelines on how to mitigate the unknowns. In often cases it's those small unchecked outcomes that are most overlooked because we lack precedence to the potential unforseen circumstances to reference . What are the long-term pitfalls or unchecked outcomes not realized. And if not recognizable how do you know what to look for much less the buffer consequences?
This is a cool story, although it has nothing to do with "Oregon Field Guide" and is also not even in Oregon. I miss the old Oregon Field Guide and what it offered.
I have one question.... WHY??? OK, so humans can record gravitational waves created by events that happened hundreds of millions of years ago, but what use is this? How does it justify its cost? Is " it's exciting" enough of a reason to use huge amounts of revenue on something that doesn't really bring any practical value to humans? If you think I'm missing something then please do educate me!
@coopersparrow-o8w well perhaps youd be kind enough tc educate me? I am fully capable of recieving and considering new information with an open and respecttful mind. Could you even deliver just one major benefit for us humans being able to detect a noise made in a part of the universe hundreds of millions of light years away/ago?
Pulsar research 50 years ago resulted in today's MRI machines that every hospital has. I'm sure someone complained about pulsar research 50 years ago too...
Its bizarre to me that they would leave the concrete "tubes" exposed to wildlife/weather. But, i have no doubt they have built those things into the process somehow.
Not only collisions. That is the equivalent of listening for thunder. A civilization much more advanced than ours does not use relatively slow radio waves with which to communicate. We are listening, but these civilizations are not talking on this line. There is no reason to believe that gravitational waves that pervade the universe cannot be modulated. Instead of electro-magnetic waves, i.e., radio waves, perhaps this must be separated into each component, electro and magnetic and use only the magnetic line-of-force that pervades the universe as the foundation of communication devices with civilizations in outer space.
I've read the comments. All pro ligo. It sounds to me that most people don't know the problems Hanford has. Somebody might want to clean that mess up before you start another! Let's just take a look here.... How far is Portland? Possibly you could use that money to feed and help the homeless? How far is Seattle? How much of that money could get people off the streets? Your research is interesting, however not relevant in this age in this area.
You'd rather spend money on drug addicts than science? All the people worked and went through their education and have careers. You want to rob them and give it to people who don't do anything, maybe you're the problem with society!
This is an impressive site, but this video never explained why it is important to research and study these "waves". As in many scientific endeavors, it seems, a huge amount of money and technology is invested in study that doesn't always seem very valuable to life on this earth. With so many cultural and environmental/climatic issues that seem to be rapidly accelerating, I would think science and industry would be better used to address these issues.
No they are not, Black Holes do not exist, Please explain how a hole can have mass, And how suddenly black is part of electromagnetic spectrum. They are called Dark Stars , And have been labelled that for around 200 years.
Confirming the existence and propagation of gravitational waves brings in a whole new dimension of quantum computing, space travel, and other things. Just because you lack the education to directly understand the benefits, doesn't mean it doesn't directly benefit you. Do some reading, and learn about it.
There's obviously billions and billions of dollars is funding going into this project, and it would be super helpful to tell us laymen what all this money gets us.
Its cool but what's the objective and who is paying for it? If the objective is to make a gravitational wave surf board as a propulsion engine to travel fast in space or just to hear things. I could see it as an earthquake prediction sensor.
Im confused as how and why this kind of information is relevant to life on earth. How much energy and money do these projects expend? Is it really necessary or beneficial? Not that I want people to lose their jobs but i just don't get how this is important.
The reporting is so horrible it is hard to imagine the lack of research that when in to this video. Also how TF can a portion of Washington state be “far flung”? SMH
@@b_uppy Nope, spittle is only part of it. That's why all folks the area are wearing clean suits. This may shock you, but water vapor has particles in it and it goes a bit further than spittle. Give science a try. You have nothing to lose by your ignorance.
@@wisky3 another child who doesn't realize that viruses aren't wandering around on their own but are attached to moisture, larger particles that are stopped by the mask. Psuedo-science, the closest you get. Masks work.
Einstein predicted gravitational waves, but he also said they were so minute we would never measure them. The more you learn about how difficult this is, the more you learn just how amazing this project really is.
Yep. LIGO can detect a change in distance of about 1/10,000 of the diameter of a proton.
@@kellymoses8566 Are you kidding me?!! That is infinitesimal!!! Wow. That's awesome....zero sarcasm...that's really cool.
@@kellymoses8566 WOW! That's amazing
At first I read the headline as "LIGO is finding black holes in the steppe of eastern Washington", which was alarming.
They're just detecting the brains of western Washingtonians. Those are some dense black holes.
I did to.
Same!
@@tim57243 same!
I think that’s why we all clicked
Lovely outcomes when scientists have community support
This was an outstanding documentary, with the perfect balance between the humans and the technology involved. I've seen a ton of stuff about LIGO, but still really enjoyed it.
I admire and appreciate everything that you do at LIGO. I have zero science background but for some reason find the idea of a dynamic and endless universe comforting. Like we’re not the only game in town so my problems are literally tiny.
Had the opportunity to tour the facility in 2004. So, so impressive.
I can't remember when this happened, but LIGO and VIRGO (in Italy) detected a gravitational wave coming in....and two seconds later, we were hit by a gamma-ray burst. Both were coming from 130 million light years away, with only a 2 second discrepancy. Truly amazing stuff.
August 17, 2017, our most scientifically rich detection to date! 😊
So how many of these detectors are planned?
And how accurately will we be able to pinpoint the exact location of these gravitational events?
And yet scientist`s will still not admit that gravitational waves are not subject to the barrier of speed of light.
woow
The neutron star merger. There is gold in them stars I tell ya! 🙂
i toured the Hanford LIGO about 5 years ago. I think they still give free tours but you have to sign up in advance.
They have a visitor center that you can visit anytime it is open. Guided tours have a schedule.
What an amazing piece of science, measuring something we once thought was impossible to see and opening up a new way of examining the universe. Wish they could do tours more than once a month, I'd love to see it in person.
Interesting and not so far away. Thanks.
Love the on-cue coyote.
The neatest thing about gravitational waves is that they cannot be blocked so if you build a sensitive enough detector you can detect them anywhere in the universe.
Mighty cool!
Just wow!!!
I monitored the geotechnical test borings during design of the Hanford LIGO facility . November 1992. “Best two weeks of my life,” said no one ever! 🥶🥶🥶
Very interesting and compelling! Thank You 😊
Hey this is my neck of the woods! Just north of Richland WA. Beautiful area if you like wide open skies and desert terrain.
Yes, I do love plenty of a flatland view. My favorite. I'm from the eastern plains of Colorado. The night sky in Summer is a beauty to behold. Sigh....
When the vegetable harvest is on in that area, lots of heavy commercial trucks thundering past and around Ligo, from July 1st till Oct 31st. I am sure they are happy when that is done for the season. I know I am.
very good film
Excellent peek.
quote of the day "It's a great time to be a gravitational wave astronomer".
Very, very cool!
Amazing
So satisfying to see so many women scientists there. This Old lady takes comfort in this
What is the practical application for this expensive data?
Things that were physics research 50 years ago is routine in medicine today. Who knows what part of this will be in routine diagnostics in another 50 years.
There is a huge elk population in the area aswell well over 2400, you need to remain vigilant driving through the area especially in the early morning hours.
This reminded me of some of the things I was involved in building. I worked for a company by the name of Kenlab in the SF/ Oakland bay area during the early 70s and into the 80s. I welded many aluminum tubes about 12 inches by 4 feet long. I welded aluminum flanges on them. We welded and machined and made sheetmetal parts. They were for Laurence Lab in Livermore Ca. I also worked on projects for Laurence Labs Berkley. It was equipment for them to work with Lasers. Berkley they were trying to create a Sun. It was different to say the least. The Livermore lab were going to shoot lasers down these tubes. Not sure why. Everything we made at Kenlab was hi-Tec. Like parts for Voyager or fire suppression systems that went on Airliners. It was my favorite place to work. Everyone was highly skilled and many times it was up to us to figure out how the make these things and hold tolerances at plus or minus 0.003. A few time I had to figure out how to weld something that the welding books said can’t be welded. I did and that is why we had High Tec companies coming to us. Kenlab is closed now. It closed in 2000. It was just this small job shop that most people had no idea was going on there.
Good work
Given the similarity of design and physics, I wonder what would have happened if the Michelson-Morley experiment had been sensitive enough to detect gravitational waves? This was about the same tine that Einstein was developing his theories, and the valid but not understood observations could have torpedoed his work or shot it forward 100 years.
As it is, I applaud the efforts of LIGO and others in the field. They truly revolutionized astronomy.
That sound perked my dog up.
The world just keeps getting stranger and stranger. It's great
An excellent IR laser application. What wavelength do they operate at? How many joules? What kind of resonator do they use?
@@mikeleahy573 They operate at 1064nm wavelength. The input laser power is of order 100 watts, but due to resonance, the stored power in the arms is hundreds of kw. To get joules, you would need to define the amount of time you dissipate the stored energy to go between the circulating arm power and joules. The resonators are very high quality mirrors separated by 4km; the light bounces between the mirrors.
What vibration did you get from the merger of two black holes, and the differences between black holes merging and galaxies...
I lived in Seattle for six years. I regret not checking out eastern Washington. I left Amazon in 2003 and ever looked back until today.
I’ve gotten to visit the facility in person. Pretty amazing stuff out in the middle of the desert
Nice.
Cool 😎
Neat! And sad but really Cool
It was interesting
Actually High Prairie or Desert. Just moved from E WA. Even the Tumbleweeds are radioactive :) Thanks for the video! Best Regards and Best Wishes!
Don’t make it sound as though everything is radioactive. It is not. That is just the typical emotional ignorance people use to get a reaction. Thousands of people including myself spent years. (10+ for myself) cleaning up the Hanford site. There are very few areas that have elevated radiation. The only unremediated underground waste site out in the prairie is under the parking lot at Energy Northwest. That one will be done at decommissioning.
The truth is the biggest environmental problem in that place is chemical not radiological. Yes there are a few areas that will take quite a bit of time to address but it is being addressed.
LIGO is located outside the secure areas of Hanford. Anyone can drive directly to it.
How long does it take to see what created the sound in a telescope?
Me, who lives in the Tri-Cities: "and coyotes, too"
Lady speaker: " Oh, look, a coyote!"
Is there a time differential between what is detected by LIGO and what is visually seen in the sky? The real question is gravity as fast as light?
So far, no one has been able to prove anything can travel faster than light. However,
I'm thinking there must be a way to travel over vast distances in a short amount of time. I can't seem to conceptualize the problem of time as it relates to speed....
Seems to be the same within measurement accuracy. Gravitational waves and the gamma rays from a neutron star merger arrived at the same time.
sheese .. how much does this cost ??
Are neutrinos affected by gravitational waves?
There are black holes that come from the steppe of Eastern Washington???
Fascinating!!
is that the Veritasium voice?
Billions of dollars to detect something that will never effect us. Terrific.
@@TahoeJones
Books cost too much..got it..🙄
It's not billions of dollars. It's been about 1bn spread across almost 25 years! Do the math and you'll find it amounts to about 40 CENTS per tax payer per *year*.
@@lyudmillawasright.
For what you can get otherwise now, yeah. No dead trees in the landfills. Put the hardbacks in a library when they belong.
You're intelligent enough to say whether or not this will have any effect at all? Please explain how. Or shut up 😂 boomer, just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it can't make sense 😂😂
@coopersparrow-o8w
Pretend I'm from Missouri.
Show me or piss off.
Love the original pronunciation of "coyote."
That's a pretty normal pronunciation of "coyote." Used is most of the U.S.
Not my experience. I'm hearing "ki-yo-tee."
Not "ki-yote." (Rhymes with compote)
The latter is my preference.
Its the western pronunciation
And what do we get from listening to gravitational waves? How does it help improve humanity?
Everything.
It's more about making connections. If you had to study a tree, would you only focus on the bark? What's important about the leaves if I know it'll grow with water. Just because they're things you can't see the value of doesn't mean it's not there undiscovered. Maybe it will be nothing. Better job than any person like yourself could do.
Believe it or not many times building these machines and technology does end up helping humanity in many other areas. Maybe some of the engineering and technology will be an insight on some medical device that could save lives. Basic science oftens has impacts we can never imagine at the time.
Why not dig down 4K for the Z axis? 3D location.
4:40 Reminds me of the dogs from Up.
Only it's a coyote, not a squirrel.
Why did they not build underground?
Apparently and in a practical sense, "flat" had priority over "protected".
Wonder if we could actually feel this if there was an event say ten light years away VS millions of light years.
Very interesting. The earth In General has it very own (cicada rhythm) for lack of a better term. My question. When does technology like this along with many others integrated into the global landscape, bellow and above indirectly and Inadvertently tinker with earths own natural equilibrium. There is no scientist alive that can check ✔️ the completely safe box. Instead we build guidelines on how to mitigate the unknowns. In often cases it's those small unchecked outcomes that are most overlooked because we lack precedence to the potential unforseen circumstances to reference . What are the long-term pitfalls or unchecked outcomes not realized. And if not recognizable how do you know what to look for much less the buffer consequences?
Quantum light squeezer!
This is a cool story, although it has nothing to do with "Oregon Field Guide" and is also not even in Oregon. I miss the old Oregon Field Guide and what it offered.
I have one question.... WHY??? OK, so humans can record gravitational waves created by events that happened hundreds of millions of years ago, but what use is this? How does it justify its cost? Is " it's exciting" enough of a reason to use huge amounts of revenue on something that doesn't really bring any practical value to humans? If you think I'm missing something then please do educate me!
Confirmation. One day perhaps controllable anti gravity transport, unlimited usable energy.
@wendygerrish4964 are you by any chance on the fund raising team lol!
@@BasilSimon you're not smart enough to see the benefits, doesn't mean they aren't there.
@coopersparrow-o8w well perhaps youd be kind enough tc educate me? I am fully capable of recieving and considering new information with an open and respecttful mind. Could you even deliver just one major benefit for us humans being able to detect a noise made in a part of the universe hundreds of millions of light years away/ago?
Pulsar research 50 years ago resulted in today's MRI machines that every hospital has. I'm sure someone complained about pulsar research 50 years ago too...
Hello….have you folks picked up anything on the earths surface?
The other half is in the southern Louisiana woods.
Its bizarre to me that they would leave the concrete "tubes" exposed to wildlife/weather. But, i have no doubt they have built those things into the process somehow.
Not only collisions. That is the equivalent of listening for thunder. A civilization much more advanced than ours does not use relatively slow radio waves with which to communicate. We are listening, but these civilizations are not talking on this line. There is no reason to believe that gravitational waves that pervade the universe cannot be modulated. Instead of electro-magnetic waves, i.e., radio waves, perhaps this must be separated into each component, electro and magnetic and use only the magnetic line-of-force that pervades the universe as the foundation of communication devices with civilizations in outer space.
I've read the comments. All pro ligo. It sounds to me that most people don't know the problems Hanford has. Somebody might want to clean that mess up before you start another! Let's just take a look here.... How far is Portland? Possibly you could use that money to feed and help the homeless? How far is Seattle? How much of that money could get people off the streets? Your research is interesting, however not relevant in this age in this area.
You'd rather spend money on drug addicts than science? All the people worked and went through their education and have careers. You want to rob them and give it to people who don't do anything, maybe you're the problem with society!
You should of put it in a dome...
Does LIGO provide DEI training for staff and managers? Is it built with sustainable materials?
What about the other organization, LIGMA?
On my tiktok page i got a video on sounds around the moon.i wonder if this is connected..
Dune!
Why the sunglasses? Laser-related safety?
I live near here.... AREA 52...!!!
The largest black hole is in the US Federal budget. Did it find that?!?!
Put LIGO in space.
They are working on that
How many of these sponges get less than 6 figures P . A .
This is an impressive site, but this video never explained why it is important to research and study these "waves". As in many scientific endeavors, it seems, a huge amount of money and technology is invested in study that doesn't always seem very valuable to life on this earth. With so many cultural and environmental/climatic issues that seem to be rapidly accelerating, I would think science and industry would be better used to address these issues.
There's a lot to be said for _appropriate_ technology...
How bout using imperial measurements
How much is it costing us tax payers to pay and maintain this project? What is the purpose of this project? How is it helping civilization?
No they are not, Black Holes do not exist,
Please explain how a hole can have mass, And how suddenly black is part of electromagnetic spectrum.
They are called Dark Stars , And have been labelled that for around 200 years.
Very interesting it not curing cancer, but any advancement in technology may lead to the cure. thank you for sharing
Pretty sure you only "go in there and figure it out" at the beginning of the day. Nobody wants to open a can of worms at the end of a day.
This is a monumental Load Of Horse Radish... Get a grip guys...???
Just don't see the benefit of any of the research coming from this other than spending a lot of money!
Confirming the existence and propagation of gravitational waves brings in a whole new dimension of quantum computing, space travel, and other things.
Just because you lack the education to directly understand the benefits, doesn't mean it doesn't directly benefit you. Do some reading, and learn about it.
Sooooo neat!!!!🤓 Who pays for this? Lol
I .
U .
There's obviously billions and billions of dollars is funding going into this project, and it would be super helpful to tell us laymen what all this money gets us.
Seek first the kingdom of God. Within. This is all silly human games to pass time on earth.
Its cool but what's the objective and who is paying for it? If the objective is to make a gravitational wave surf board as a propulsion engine to travel fast in space or just to hear things. I could see it as an earthquake prediction sensor.
No , no they're not .
Why are you doing this? What is it going to accomplish for humankind? ZERO
make it 3d please
And yet we are lead to believe we're clueless about UAP's
Is Neil Degrasse Tyson on this?
Ligo is a pure money scam game,, easy explanation
Gotta say you found something or anything to get more money,,
Understanding the universe is senseless,,sorry to the scammers
Im confused as how and why this kind of information is relevant to life on earth. How much energy and money do these projects expend? Is it really necessary or beneficial? Not that I want people to lose their jobs but i just don't get how this is important.
Can we go 5 minutes without trying to assault the universe?
Nanograv is going to take us into the future.
The reporting is so horrible it is hard to imagine the lack of research that when in to this video. Also how TF can a portion of Washington state be “far flung”? SMH
Because its in the middle of nowhere. Central Washington is desert with hardly any population
Or put it under ground...
Wait! They're wearing face masks. Republicans tell us those are useless. They should stop. 🤣
The masks are to keep spittle off of important surfaces.
You have to be really trying to have your spittle reach a person two feet away...
@@b_uppy Nope, spittle is only part of it. That's why all folks the area are wearing clean suits. This may shock you, but water vapor has particles in it and it goes a bit further than spittle. Give science a try. You have nothing to lose by your ignorance.
@@davidt3956 please explain how an N95 that is rated for 100-300Nm particles will stop something that is 3-30Nm
@@wisky3 another child who doesn't realize that viruses aren't wandering around on their own but are attached to moisture, larger particles that are stopped by the mask. Psuedo-science, the closest you get.
Masks work.
I bet that they get triggered by doctors wearing masks lol
What a bunch of B.S
Sorry.....i don't buy any of it. I do like that ligo is at least attempting to observe something.
Jesus what a waist of time and money