The E250 bluetec turbo diesel literally takes off on the V6 and the fuel economy holy shit it's really and truly efficient I drove on a full tank literally all day the needle didn't move
Almost... I can spot several small differences here compared to a C-class. The biggest selling point for this model is 35+mpg highway even with 4matic. In Canada where diesel is cheaper than 87 octane & nasty winters happen 1/4 of the year, it is a big plus.
I'm glad you enjoyed our Oregon weather, it's sunny from July to the end of September. Unfortunately the rest of the year it rains almost every day. We have some great roads here, and it's amazingly beautiful. Many manufacturers have press events here, so you will probably be back in the future. Visit Portland, it's a fun place. Great beer & food.
Oregon really is beautiful state, and what a blast it has been to be living there for years and years. and driving the E550 to the coast is pretty badass I gotta say man
I would like reviewers to stop measuring everything in terms of sportiness and driver feedback. Do it when it's relevant on a car with sporty pretensions, not on a diesel Mercedes.
The E Class is my favorite car. I love the current W212 Facelift. It's modern, bold, yet really modest looking. I agree the interior is a little dated, though I actually like it to an extent. Seeing as this, being the E250, is the entry level model, there are going to be some things that are more attractive in the more pricier areas. Of course, the E350 is the standard model with a 3.5 V6, while the E400, which replaced the E550 (due to low sales), has a twin turbo 3.0 V6. Then you have your E63 AMG S Model. Mercedes is planning on unveiling the W213 E Class, perhaps by the end of this year, and then debuting it early next year, in which it would go on sale as a 2017 model. We'll see the return of Inline 6 engines, and the E63 will swap the 5.5 V8 for the new 4.0 V8, which is currently being used in the AMG GT and W205 C63.
***** Of course the 5 Series is shit! That's why the E Class continues to ruin it ;) Continues to win awards, is preferred over the 5 Series, looks better, is more powerful, is more prestigious, and is simply better. So whine away, BMW Fan Girl :P
+BMW THE BEST! Yawn! Dream on, BMW Fan Girl :D Now, we're about to reveal the W213! The W213 is the most technologically advanced production car to even come out of Germany. Along with it is the next E63 AMG. The prototype has been destroying the Nurburgring! Now, we all know that the W212F E63 was an absolute M5 smasher, but this one they're making will probably render the M5 totally and utterly boring, as well as irrelevant. I've been in a 5 and an E63! The 5 Series was the biggest waste of my time ever! Such a boring, unexciting car! Shit interior, shit styling, shit engine. At least the horn worked! Yuck! No thanks! MB? Yes! ///AMG? Absolutely! Audi? Of Course! Porsche? You Bet! BMW? Fuck Off! Now don't cry, just because someone talks shit about your cars. Just because they aren't cool anymore doesn't mean you can't still be a fan! There are plenty of Ford Crown Victoria fans you can hang out with! Actually, they'd probably whoop your ass too!
It's not like all diesels all crazy expensive, the base model gl-class is a diesel, and the GLK is only 1.5k more, 9/10 of a sec 0-60 slower but the engine is 1.4 liters smaller and it gets 24 city 34 hwy, the GLK gas gets only 24 highway. The E-Class used to be cheaper as a diesel, if I recall correctly.
I don't understand why that autonomous system can disengage at high speed when hands are off the wheel. If you were not paying attention enough to grab the wheel, what happens? The car stops steering and you might leave the lane or go off the road? The car slams on the brakes?
6'2" in the drivers seat and 6'2" in the back seat? What are the chances? If you judge the E-Class by the legroom in the back while looking to buy one, I suggest you jump right to the S-Class Long Version, BMW 7 Series or Audi A8 L...
Note that Roman is 6'2'', the average American is 5'10, and the average German is 5'11.5'' most countries are around 5'8'' or less so it's not like everyone is Roman's height.
Will be interesting to see how it does in the mile high 0-60 run. Also curious as to what the real world mileage will be. I appreciate the sacrifices you make to bring us these videos. Being feted by the manufacturer and driving around in desirable cars can be such a drag. ;-) PS How is the Diamond in the Rough restoration coming?
please keep letting everyone know the performance driving experience with all cars. the car guy with you on this car, was such a bore. I like driving dynamics so keep up the good work. Handling is key with safe driving, so knowing how it responds is valuable information.
it hits the brakes. there is a lot of sensors that make it possible and very rainy and snowy conditions will make it not work. also you don't want to encourage people to sleep at the wheel or generally be inatentive only giving you a couple seconds without your hands on the wheel keeps you from distracted driving and keeps you looking at the road.
Diesel also makes more sense than putting a V6/thirsty V8 in a luxobarge because no one is racing cars the size of S550 and BMW7... They need the torque of the diesel to move the 5000 pounds of car, cargo and passenger.
Just a note, Roman. Those of us in the Pacific Northwest appreciate the fact that the Oregon coast is relatively "unheralded." It's crowded enough without landlubbers like yourself heralding its virtues. :)
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The fenders, rear lights, headlights, bumpers, roof and all pillars were modified. Then there's all the engineering, with even a 4 wheel drive version.
Nice man i love BMW's specially the E39 which to me is the best 5 series ever made. As long as you up keep in oil changes and regular maintenance german cars can last a lifetime.
Don't listen to these people. Most people criticize German cars have never driven anything more than economy cars. People said the same thing about my 2002 BMW 525i when I bought it, and it is costing me less money on maintenance a year than my friends 2008 Honda Accord!
no double taxing. corporate taxes are based on income AFTER expenses, and payroll is an expense. so the owner pays tax on the salary he takes, and on the remaining profit AFTER he's removed the salary. you only really pay a "double tax" when you use the take-home money to buy stuff - then you pay the sales tax. so that's sort of a stacking of taxes. but corporate & payroll taxes are NOT doubled.
This is suppost to be the replacement for the current diesel. I think it was a 3.0L. But why a 2.1?? We all know 195hp isn't gonna cut it even if it has 300+ torque!
64k includes a tax shield for the owners. Businesses and rich people will buy this because they can write the car off as a business expense and reduce their taxes. Their real cost is 35-40k because rest of the money would have gone to IRS. People with jobs will buy this used for 25-35k after two years. Maintenance cost is also written off as a business expense. Most companies will buy a service contract and write off the whole thing.
I imagine they disable the functionality for liability reasons. Sure it sounds more dangerous to just shut the system down and let the car drift, but the fact of the matter is you're supposed to be driving the car. If for some reason you're no longer capable of driving, it's still your responsibility to stop driving the car.
Sure thats why my 97 E-420 that i have had since new has not had a single issue in 150k miles but a leaking rear diff that was fixed for under 150 bucks and a bad Maf that was also extremely cheap to fix. Im sure thats also why every country in europe uses the e class as a taxi its because they are maintenance money pits.....
Yeah, but then look at what a pos Tahoe cost. This in a wagon is 10 times the car the 70k Tahoe would be. The trunk space in the E class wagon is absolutely massive, so is the trunk in the sedan.
What they call distronic is not new, My mom took delivery of her 2013 MKZ on November 2012 and it has all the same tech but called Lane Keeping Assist and adaptive cruise control but the tech on the MKZ was developed in Detroit MI. I'm a big hater of anything German. I have had 3 German cars so far and all were junk, they need to focus on making there cars better so there not at the dealer getting repairs 10 times a year.
LOVED the review..... The tech, the mechanics, the design.... Test driving one and considering purchase. Thanks guys!
The E250 bluetec turbo diesel literally takes off on the V6 and the fuel economy holy shit it's really and truly efficient I drove on a full tank literally all day the needle didn't move
Almost... I can spot several small differences here compared to a C-class.
The biggest selling point for this model is 35+mpg highway even with 4matic. In Canada where diesel is cheaper than 87 octane & nasty winters happen 1/4 of the year, it is a big plus.
I'm glad you enjoyed our Oregon weather, it's sunny from July to the end of September. Unfortunately the rest of the year it rains almost every day. We have some great roads here, and it's amazingly beautiful. Many manufacturers have press events here, so you will probably be back in the future. Visit Portland, it's a fun place. Great beer & food.
Oregon really is beautiful state, and what a blast it has been to be living there for years and years. and driving the E550 to the coast is pretty badass I gotta say man
I would like reviewers to stop measuring everything in terms of sportiness and driver feedback. Do it when it's relevant on a car with sporty pretensions, not on a diesel Mercedes.
The E Class is my favorite car. I love the current W212 Facelift. It's modern, bold, yet really modest looking. I agree the interior is a little dated, though I actually like it to an extent.
Seeing as this, being the E250, is the entry level model, there are going to be some things that are more attractive in the more pricier areas.
Of course, the E350 is the standard model with a 3.5 V6, while the E400, which replaced the E550 (due to low sales), has a twin turbo 3.0 V6.
Then you have your E63 AMG S Model.
Mercedes is planning on unveiling the W213 E Class, perhaps by the end of this year, and then debuting it early next year, in which it would go on sale as a 2017 model. We'll see the return of Inline 6 engines, and the E63 will swap the 5.5 V8 for the new 4.0 V8, which is currently being used in the AMG GT and W205 C63.
***** Of course the 5 Series is shit! That's why the E Class continues to ruin it ;) Continues to win awards, is preferred over the 5 Series, looks better, is more powerful, is more prestigious, and is simply better.
So whine away, BMW Fan Girl :P
What about Maserati Ghimbli??
+BMW THE BEST! Yawn! Dream on, BMW Fan Girl :D
Now, we're about to reveal the W213! The W213 is the most technologically advanced production car to even come out of Germany.
Along with it is the next E63 AMG. The prototype has been destroying the Nurburgring! Now, we all know that the W212F E63 was an absolute M5 smasher, but this one they're making will probably render the M5 totally and utterly boring, as well as irrelevant. I've been in a 5 and an E63! The 5 Series was the biggest waste of my time ever! Such a boring, unexciting car! Shit interior, shit styling, shit engine. At least the horn worked!
Yuck! No thanks! MB? Yes! ///AMG? Absolutely! Audi? Of Course! Porsche? You Bet! BMW? Fuck Off!
Now don't cry, just because someone talks shit about your cars. Just because they aren't cool anymore doesn't mean you can't still be a fan!
There are plenty of Ford Crown Victoria fans you can hang out with! Actually, they'd probably whoop your ass too!
What about Jaguar and Maserati??
Sunny Oregon, I am blown away.
It's not like all diesels all crazy expensive, the base model gl-class is a diesel, and the GLK is only 1.5k more, 9/10 of a sec 0-60 slower but the engine is 1.4 liters smaller and it gets 24 city 34 hwy, the GLK gas gets only 24 highway. The E-Class used to be cheaper as a diesel, if I recall correctly.
The screen is 7 inches not 5 big deffrience :)
I don't understand why that autonomous system can disengage at high speed when hands are off the wheel. If you were not paying attention enough to grab the wheel, what happens? The car stops steering and you might leave the lane or go off the road? The car slams on the brakes?
I'll take it in a 4-Matic wagon. Snow ski machine:)
6'2" in the drivers seat and 6'2" in the back seat? What are the chances? If you judge the E-Class by the legroom in the back while looking to buy one, I suggest you jump right to the S-Class Long Version, BMW 7 Series or Audi A8 L...
they should've use this engine in a wagon form for the US market. Wagons need a comeback (y)
That guy you were driving with looks like he was just a barrel of fun to be around.
miss Oregon so much!
Roman -- what is the hp and lb-ft. of torque displacement for this E-250 BlueTec. Most Mercedes E-Class shoppers will go to the V-6 gas engine.
64 with a lot of options. Basic e-class has everything we need for much less money :-)
Note that Roman is 6'2'', the average American is 5'10, and the average German is 5'11.5'' most countries are around 5'8'' or less so it's not like everyone is Roman's height.
Will be interesting to see how it does in the mile high 0-60 run. Also curious as to what the real world mileage will be.
I appreciate the sacrifices you make to bring us these videos. Being feted by the manufacturer and driving around in desirable cars can be such a drag. ;-)
PS
How is the Diamond in the Rough restoration coming?
"those crafty Germans!"
Great review!
Can you palm the steering wheel at 12 o'clock without the sensors telling you to put you hand back on the wheel?
I agree with ***** love the front. Hate the back.
Will the 2.1 be in the wagon?
Roman Mica where are you from?tnks!!!!
It is sometimes a reflector if the driver turns off the headlights
please keep letting everyone know the performance driving experience with all cars. the car guy with you on this car, was such a bore. I like driving dynamics so keep up the good work. Handling is key with safe driving, so knowing how it responds is valuable information.
it hits the brakes. there is a lot of sensors that make it possible and very rainy and snowy conditions will make it not work. also you don't want to encourage people to sleep at the wheel or generally be inatentive only giving you a couple seconds without your hands on the wheel keeps you from distracted driving and keeps you looking at the road.
I like those W212 but one thing I wonder. How majority of them don't have Xenon or LED lights like with BMW 5 series is standart.
IT EXPLODES!!!!!
Explain
EU version have turn signals as well but they're not orange. All cars sold in US have those orange lamps.
how would you compare this to the 3 series?
Diesel also makes more sense than putting a V6/thirsty V8 in a luxobarge because no one is racing cars the size of S550 and BMW7... They need the torque of the diesel to move the 5000 pounds of car, cargo and passenger.
Does this have airmatic available?
Just a note, Roman. Those of us in the Pacific Northwest appreciate the fact that the Oregon coast is relatively "unheralded." It's crowded enough without landlubbers like yourself heralding its virtues. :)
I love this car ...
Guys could you review the 328d next please!!
And now a great buy at 15k ! 😃
Price?
nice car!!
It's not the all new E class, it is just a facelift model, refreshed!
This is already out in florida I saw them at the dealership
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The fenders, rear lights, headlights, bumpers, roof and all pillars were modified. Then there's all the engineering, with even a 4 wheel drive version.
the only thing not to like is the gear shifter location.
Way better looking than the pre-facelift
What's the fuel economy?
Nice man i love BMW's specially the E39 which to me is the best 5 series ever made. As long as you up keep in oil changes and regular maintenance german cars can last a lifetime.
front turn signals?
Can u guys do an Audi Q7 premium plus mashup with BMW X5 please
gas mileage please?
Don't listen to these people. Most people criticize German cars have never driven anything more than economy cars. People said the same thing about my 2002 BMW 525i when I bought it, and it is costing me less money on maintenance a year than my friends 2008 Honda Accord!
The E39 like yours are great cars and reliable - especially by BMW standards 😂
uh, "write off" doesn't mean it's free. you just don't pay tax on that portion, but you still gotta pay to buy it and repair it.
Wow the dude in the passenger s3at looks like hes havin fun
@6:32 those crafty Germans
where is nathan
Right on, now I can use both hands.
64K and no back seat, BRILLIANT! Plus your typical Merc is a maintenance money pit.
I don't want self driving cars, I want auto pilot so if I'm driving a long road trip, I could turn it on while I have a break
heheheh i felt Roman is like a 15 yrs old naughty boy with his wise father LMAO ...that guy said the right things :-)
don't agree with that other guy about noise, I like to hear my car running!
MB should have dropped the e400 and made this e250 in a hybrid, to eliminate the urea that nobody talks about or the lack of spare.
no double taxing. corporate taxes are based on income AFTER expenses, and payroll is an expense. so the owner pays tax on the salary he takes, and on the remaining profit AFTER he's removed the salary. you only really pay a "double tax" when you use the take-home money to buy stuff - then you pay the sales tax. so that's sort of a stacking of taxes. but corporate & payroll taxes are NOT doubled.
My problem with the e class is that it just doesn't look like a 60.000k car. Looks like a 40.000k car
Here's to hoping the w212 can echo back to the greatly engineered w124 days. It puts a smile on my face whenever I hop in and drive my '95 e320.
This is suppost to be the replacement for the current diesel. I think it was a 3.0L. But why a 2.1?? We all know 195hp isn't gonna cut it even if it has 300+ torque!
64k includes a tax shield for the owners. Businesses and rich people will buy this because they can write the car off as a business expense and reduce their taxes. Their real cost is 35-40k because rest of the money would have gone to IRS. People with jobs will buy this used for 25-35k after two years. Maintenance cost is also written off as a business expense. Most companies will buy a service contract and write off the whole thing.
Buen vídeo
two turbos?... good luck w/ maintenance bills
good car......for my wife!!!, definitely getting her 1
If you have 60000 the car to buy is the E250 BlueTec
Z StHope why
diesel mercedes - my wife has one and I hate it, but dont tell her that! I prefer petrol myself
Try and get in that back seat without crushing your knees. The CLA has the same problem.
Must be tall
great car but, not a fan of those door locks its an E class not a C
I imagine they disable the functionality for liability reasons. Sure it sounds more dangerous to just shut the system down and let the car drift, but the fact of the matter is you're supposed to be driving the car. If for some reason you're no longer capable of driving, it's still your responsibility to stop driving the car.
love the look of the new Mercedes cars but those interiors are miles behind others. Can't someone at Mercedes design a new interior
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Should be fast with the torque
Dodge/Chrysler use a 3.0 diesel in the grand cherokee and in the RAM 1500
The Ram used the FCA italiano made 3.0 Eco Diesel. Chrysler used the OM642 in the 07’ and 08’ GC Jeep.
Aw3some!
Definitely pricey. I like the car a lot, though. Its a Mercedes E-class with a diesel engine, what else is there to say?!
WTF are you talking about, it's a 4-door.
this is a cross country cruiser
nice
Sure thats why my 97 E-420 that i have had since new has not had a single issue in 150k miles but a leaking rear diff that was fixed for under 150 bucks and a bad Maf that was also extremely cheap to fix. Im sure thats also why every country in europe uses the e class as a taxi its because they are maintenance money pits.....
Dam, $64,554 for this!
Yeah, but then look at what a pos Tahoe cost. This in a wagon is 10 times the car the 70k Tahoe would be. The trunk space in the E class wagon is absolutely massive, so is the trunk in the sedan.
I like diesel
E250 looks like a bargain!
$360,599
Seems legit
W213 is nothing like e
what.
Its is a maintenance money pit ... after the warranty is gone ...
What they call distronic is not new, My mom took delivery of her 2013 MKZ on November 2012 and it has all the same tech but called Lane Keeping Assist and adaptive cruise control but the tech on the MKZ was developed in Detroit MI.
I'm a big hater of anything German. I have had 3 German cars so far and all were junk, they need to focus on making there cars better so there not at the dealer getting repairs 10 times a year.
A drunk man's best friend!
turkey price 90 k €
Lol at no hands, and suddenly disengages.
No 0 to 60
Of course, europeans are not that tall or just big...Mercedes will always be expensive to run, also BMW and other german manufacturers ;)
Same interior again...?? Really...!!
I'd still pick the Audi A6 over this