A lot of credit goes to the owner for keeping it stored inside, and preserving it to the extent he has. Very nice of him to allow you in and to make this video. Love the details-like all the paperwork, and how the paint masking differs from plant to plant. Great story. Very watchable.
I HAVE PAINTED CARS FOR 47 YEARS. WHEN GM USED LAQUER AND FORD AND CHRY USED ACHRILIC ENAMEL. BEFOR BASE COAT CLEAR COAT CAME OUT.DURING THAT TIME I USED A AIR FED RESPERATOR , AND I NEVER PAINTED IN MY TIETY WHITES
Imagine back then storing a really great car and never driving it for 50 years. These old Mustangs are soo dang fascinating for me (the fastbacks). Maybe reminds me of my fav hotwheels car back in the day.
DONT....TOUCH....A....SINGLE....THING....ON......THAT....FREAKIN....CAR! They’re only original ONCE. Just give her a good, gentle cleansing to make her look PERFECT and call it a day. And like someone else said, at least 80k. Give the guy that for taking EXCEPTIONAL CARE of this piece of automotive history.
My brother bought a Mustang, new in 1967, for $3,200...had the 289-4V, 4-speed manual, convertible top...but before everyone thinks 'wow, in this video we see a Boss 302 for $4500, new!', you need to consider the time this was, and the state we were in at the time...we were in (or deepening into) Vietnam, gas was cheap, but jobs were pretty hard to find...and in my brother's case, he worked for a MAJOR aerospace company (in aircraft production), and was bringing home $116 to $121 A WEEK for pay! At the same time, it was VERY RARE for a bank to carry a car loan longer than 24 months (first 36 month long car loan I ever saw, was when my mother wanted her own car in 1971, and the bank provided the note to her)...so in most loans, you'd divide your payment (say, $2,000, after you put up 30-50% of the purchase value in your own cash...a lot larger down payments were MANDATORY back then!), by 24-months...and even like now, if your car payment exceeds 25% of your monthly income, you're going to get into a BAD BIND quickly in your budget...so, $100 a week was about all that most 'blue collar' Americans could afford on a car note, IF THEY HAD A DECENT JOB! (on a side note...it was after the FDIC bailouts of 1980, that home loans WERE EVER allowed to extend to 15-years, too...when I was a kid, you could get a decent family home in most areas for $5k to $7k, but the notes were on 5-7 year timelines, on average)...
Yes folks didn't earn much money for jobs back in the early 1970's but my parents house was little over 40k in 1975. It was a 2,000 sqft and 75% brick outer structure.
I hope he didn't give this gem away to that stinking thief for no 50 G's. That car would get 5 to six times that at auction. 50G's, dam, you can't even buy a decent replacement, if you were to take that money and go shopping for something new. That's an insult, and if I were the owner, I'd take him off the list of potential buyers, let alone call him first. That makes me so mad, to see someone who knows what it's worth, to go and try and steal the car from a guy who obviously loved it and took extra care of it for all those years, and hardly even drove it. Shame on him!!!!! Just read through the comments to see if others felt the same way I do about the price. Now, if that many people could warn potential sellers, this thief, could be put out of business! And rightly so!!!!!
Rookie with a BR - yeah right. It doesn’t matter because he’s a hoarder and hoarders don’t sell. He will pass on and his dumbass kids will sell it on Craigslist for $25K.
Do all the people basing their opinion on the value of this car by what they see on TV and auctions get a grip the man valued the car fairly and yes if the original paint comes out awesome it’ll add $20-$25,000 to the value it’s not $100,000 car he valued it fairly and knows what he’s doing. The warped perception of the value of classic cars is out of control, especially people that don’t know the difference between a smog pump and a power steering pump. I also believe that a lot of these opinions are based on envy and jealousy to all the people saying it’s 100 K plus are any of you gonna pay that ummm no! Another great video. I hope this man’s car goes to the right place and gets kept original. Cheers.
extremely rare to see a car like that at an auction. Examples like this are often traded by word of mouth by the big players in the hobby (of which Perkins is most assuredly one of the very few Boss experts). Do you really think 50K was a fair offer? That was insulting. Just the 2 left tires could probably sell for well over 10K.
He has the parts, facilities and expertise to turn this car into one of the best in the world, which if he doesn't do it, who would and who can? When Bob talked about not that many left, he didn't refer to just any Boss 302, he referred to cars like this - low miles and all there. This car has potential few other Boss 302s out there have, if the right person saves it as such. You think he wants this car that bad? Nah, he has a passion for classic Mustangs, which is why he has done so much good for this hobby, like saving back that Hubert Platt car for 20 years and gathering parts and working years to return it to its glory days. This takes stamina and purpose to do. You look at this as taking, when it is giving. Greedy, self-serving people would not have let me go along to video this story, fearing somebody else would get the car. Bob wants to save it and build it up, so I hope I can make this clear to understand.
Jerry Heasley I don’t know...I understand what you’re saying, but it just doesn’t feel right. Why don’t you tell Bob him and I should talk about taking this car off his plate. I’ve got just as much resources as he does and would show case this vehicle to another type of audience that Bob can’t reach.
Wow ! What a find. And to think of all the stuff we thru out for the sake of drag racing . Clamps and useless solenoids speedo cables .I even know of a guy who through out a complete W-31 ram air set up for a 68 Cutlass S Impressive car ! HAPPY MOTORING !
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Not too rare back in 1970, but how many are LEFT now in 2020? And rarer yet, is the 11, 500 miles on it , original tires, original for 99.9% of the rest of the car... That is what makes this 50 year-old surviver so special... Especially the muscle cars... So many of those were just hammered soon after they left the factory.... When this car is cleaned-up, it will be worth a lot!!!
Michael Martinez - here’s the problem - this guy is a hoarder, and hoarders don’t sell. They can’t. Ever. And with hoarders - the family resents him for it. Unfortunately this man will pass on, and his dumbass kids will sell it on Craigslist for $20K.
@@petersouthernboy6327 If the family sells the car for $20k , then you should be happy . Your initial post was lamenting people overvaluing old muscle cars . The car is worth ... what some one will pay for it . If jeff bezos decides he wants that car and offers $250k for it , thats what its worth .
I seen the look of bewilderment in his eyes when offered five hundred only if he kicked in the parts. Part of him wanted to kick someone in the nuts and the other said he is joking and it isn't your wife or daughter. Its a shame the mouse in the house or headliner to be exact. Not many other kids had a mustang where I was raised. I bought the 428 four speed one and basically drove it into the ground when I knew ford was going to take it and I wasn't going to leave them much... In the end, I couldn't hurt it that much without it hurting me so driving on a flat once and melting tires was about the worst. I could just get gas for it. I had got out of the service and used what money I had to buy but with insurance, payments got thin and then the baby was born so I drove it back to the lot with my dog tags on the key chain and walked away. It wasn't easy but I bought chevy's for a while. Because of that, then gm took my rig and I was paid up. I had to sue and win years later for my money but got it back almost double. I never bought another chevy after that. I finally bought a nice 76 highboy tricked out and it was nice... too nice and it was a magnet for others to run into. Three accidents and none my fault got my licence pulled for five years. I bought a plain jane dodge truck then and it blew up on the way home and my original ford guy came out and apologized to me so I have run ford since.
Well , thanks… I did look at a’70 BOSS 302 , in Spring 1970( graduation Purdue): unfortunately, Dealer not allow “ test Drive” & only a long drive with SALES M@N DRIVING. Interestingly, took overnight Test, a 1970 Dart GTS(???, all green/Dealer Prep Pursuit /340/special Auto/tires/ Shocks: incredible,& very good & appealing),Anyways, the Boss to “expensive “for newly Married & another year for Spouse)….We ended up getting a 1970 Dodge CORONET 500/383/loaded, in Fall 1970 for some** $3100.00 “full price”…( figuring I could add some MOPAR *& good upgrades,etc…If I remember, BOSS 302/etc. were full priced *Plus, at least in some parts Northern Indiana…….
I know of two '70 Mustangs, one is a Mach1 it is rough but it is all there and a Boss 302, about 42k but it is all stripped down, the car has zero rust , it has been hit in the front fender near the door and the heater is crushed , otherwise it is great shape.
These guys are trying to low ball you. If you ever decide to sell you deserve full retail value for such a low mileage , original, unrestored muscle car.
What about that positive battery cable to the solenoid? That’s not stock, almost positive. It would have been a different shade of red and smaller gauge, even on a Boss. That’s the first thing I noticed.
On price I would say as it sits, my estimated value would be 70 to 85 K. What this car has is originality and documented provenance that cannot be reproduced or restored if it was missing. We are about at the end of finding cars in this unique preserved condition, documented and low mileage. His offer could be considered reasonable if no one else is willing to show up with the cash to make a higher offer. Keep in mind that there will always be a collector who is willing to pay a premium for what this car is inspite of some potential future market changes and the current corona crisis. The owner was really one of those rare people thinking ahead decades ago and cherished what he had with a preservationist mind. It would only cost 2 to 3 k to clean this car up with preservation methods. And then you won't be able to touch it for less than $100,000.
@@petersouthernboy6327 under normal assumptions, you are correct. But there is an ever growing group of collectors willing to pay exuberant premiums for cars with known and documented provenance, 1 owner, original paperwork, and unmolested factory condition, even in rough shape. Complete original dealer paperwork from the originalbuyer, A 1 original state title, original accessory tags and dash tags. Etc. This is a much higher threshold then just looking for matching numbers. If future sales data matches much older cars from the 1900s to 1940s and 50s, for this unique category, then it will only go up in value. I find it common that many collectors poo hoo and diminish cars like this when they want to buy them or desperately want them for cheap, but then go on to acknowledge the value of these things once in their possession. There are many beautiful full restoration vehicles in many categories. And the old joke is " You can have a $100,000 car!!.....and it will only cost you $ 200,000 to do it." There's a market for untouched documented cars. And they are by no means Concours cars. Did you ever watch Antique Road Show?? And the common sight of people for example, bringing in rare items with a response of " well? if you wouldn't have restored it, and left it original ugly finish and all, it would fetch 80k. But since you did, it's worth $ 2,500. Most cars at shows are a shadow of their originality. And yes, there will always be a market for those too.
@@petersouthernboy6327 Lmao! I can't argue that one, because unfortunately I've seen it happen too many times. The last one, I found out after the fact that after the original owner passed away, the family sold a very rare 1 owner documented car to young Hispanic guy that had no idea what he had. He stripped it out, including all the rare impossible to find parts, trashing them in the process, chopped it, put airbags on it, and it now looks like an episode of Pimp my Ride. So this seller has 2 choices, find the right buyer in the right market or find the right home.
bcabmac - at least half of the desirable vehicles I’ve looked at - obscene cash on hand, same exact scenario. And the kids are so frustrated and embarrassed about all the junk that they are in a hurry to get it all cleared out once they get possession. Frequently it all ends up in probate. These hoarders will have so much junk that the Title can’t be found. It’s really tragic tbh.
I have a question. How do you get money to buy all of those cars? It's insane. What does he do for a living just collect cars? I don't know how people just have money out of thin air?
Not out of thin air, but from 40 years restoring vintage Mustangs, and buying and selling cars and parts. All car collectors are either wealthy or become wealthy. While other people work and then go home to eat and watch TV, car collectors like Bob build equity working on cars in their garage/shop, and buying and selling in the hobby. I learned a long time ago this hobby is not for lazy people. Go to a car show and you will see them up at the crack of dawn prepping their car. They will the first at the swap meet finding the good buys, which they know because they had the cars apart for restoration and they know what to buy. If I told you about deals Bob has made and other people like him in this hobby have made you would be amazed. Bob visited over 3,000 Ford dealerships in the 1980s and 1990s on his way to MCA shows. He would haul his 1500-mile Boss 302 to the show and the Ford dealers knew he was a serious collector. He bought out so many NOS parts it is unbelievable.
Bob worked hard at restoring cars (bought first low mile boss as a guide) , good hearted , good wisdom , good ambition , and never stops learning . He was a school teacher and bought the first one as business loan finance. He promoted mustang monthly as they promoted him. Very smart arrangement. And if you want all the blessings , marry a virtuous woman and u be a virtuous man
Hey Bob, don't restore it. They're only original once, and they really don't get much more original than that. Cleaned up and sympathetically perfected, it's a 1 of 1 time capsule, restored it's just another highfalutin' thoroughbred Boss 302 with date coded air in the tires. Big whoop.
At around 14.00 there talking around 50 grand what a joke folks that's a insult I would have sold it to anybody but never them this thing had the original tires
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm not anywhere near an expert, but I thought that it would go for a lot more than that. But maybe that's the market value now?
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
t dang I don’t think Bob is BSing. He’s probably on the money as far as Mustang circles and the ‘nuts & bolts ‘ of it go... BUT the fact that this car is practically Day One would suit the fancy of a much broader audience - muscle car fans in general, collectors who only do unrestored cars, etc. That’s why I suggest the owner hires Bob to get it just right for auction and reps the car at a big name auction. And let the market decide. This car could be the marquee attraction!!
An exact, exact Boss 302....same color, year, etc and I, with my RoadRunner, in 1972 raced most of the way on old Highway 16 in southern Minnesota and out onto interstate 90, sometimes me ahead, sometimes him ahead....until we stopped at a truckstop on interstate and had lunch and bullshitted together for quite some time. Got to know each other. I'm 73 now.....can't remember his name. We were both young bucks then.....I wonder.....The RoadRunner is long gone, unfortunately...... I hope that Bob gave he old boy a good price for it and didn't screw him over.
If the 67 Shelby GT-500 that was wasted and altered is worth $65,000 then this car completely original and near mint condition has to be worth at least $100k ..
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Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Work out after some research what you think and would like to get for the car, then when your happy with a price take it to auction and put a reserve on it , make up your mind your not letting it go for a penny less, if it doesn,t get your reserve , take it back home, gaurntee someone will get in touch through auction house , stick to your guns , you,ll get what you want ,personally I would stick $80,000 on this example.
After watching the entire video, $45-$75 g’s is way too cheap !! Serious this car is worth @ least $100’grand if not more !!! It’s only new once and with those low miles and all the original documentation and the originality of this car !!!!! Well kept up too, clean it up and don’t restore it !! It’s Only Original Once !!!! 👍👍❤️❤️👍👍👍👍😊😊😊
ANY car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Period. With newer generations preferring performance to nostalgia that number is likely to fall as us old guys who value old cars die off.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Put the car on Bring A Trailer and I bet it would fetch well over 100k . The guy who does Hagerty Barn Find Hunter on RUclips sold his rare but worn out 1967 Ford Country Squire wagon on B.A.T. a few months ago and got 80 grand for it so the sky is the limit on that mint Boss 302
In about 1989, my wife won a 1969 Grabber Green Boss 302. At that time, Chief Auto Parts (if my memory of the name is correct) sponsored the NHRA national race at the Texas Motorplex near Ennis Texas and was giving away the Boss and a Chevrolet ??? to promote the race. They had discount tickets (or coupons) to the race at their stores. My wife went to their store in Cleburne Texas and bought some tickets. Unknown to her, she was entered in the contest to win one of the cars. A few weeks after the race, she got a call telling her she had won and asking here to return to the store to be presented with the car. She thought it was a joke but went anyway and was given the car. The car would hardly run and we took it to the Ford dealer in Cleburne and the mechanics there knew little to nothing about Boss's and couldn't fix it. They also thought it might be a fake. After some research we found out it was a valuable car ( I didn't know what is was at first) and we found a Mustang restorer in Benbrook Texas who verified it was authentic and fixed it. Earlier he had been at the race in Ennis and had hoped he would win the car. We drove it some on the back roads. I remember it being pretty fast but it road walked a lot. We lived in the country at the time and didn't have a garage for it. Although the car was parked over a hundred yards from the highway, a lot of people stopped by and wanted to buy it. I think some of them thought we didn't know the value of the car and were hoping to get it for a song. We eventually sold it to someone from Alvarado Texas for $17,500 in about 1990 or 1991. We thought about keeping it but didn't have a garage and were also concerned that we could blow up the engine on our back road drives. Also we didn't have a lot of money.
69 air cleaner on a 70 - what is up with that? Car is worth 75K as it sits and probably would go north of that if properly advertised, auctioned AS IS. Even the Dearborn Autolite assembly line radiator cap was there.
Let the toothless man keep his Mustang. I don't understand why Bob has to own every single Mustang he lays his greedy little lustful Eyes Upon. Let the man enjoy.
Because every car he owns, catalogues, touches up, restores and preserves is a car that can be used as a reference point in the future of the Mustang hobby, not stripped, mangled or screwed up by a backyard mechanic with a couple of rattlecans of “resale red” paint. He’s not “greedy”. He’s a preservationist, first and foremost.
Mr. E so the louvre in France, or the smithsonian institution are greedy, then, too, by your definition... Preservation is more important than a rare car wasting away in a garage, in my eyes.
@@MrJett1971 no I believe the organizations that you mentioned are necessary for preservation. But if someone from the Smithsonian went driving around and had to just have every single rare item they would be a nuisance. As a matter of fact, even if he bought stuff from this gentleman that is the whole Foundation of his relationship with him. Once he gets what he is after, he probably won't even say hi to the guy.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Drive this car like it is. PLEASE!! This is a true piece of unaltered americana. Leave it alone. And I'm usually 99.9 percent in favor of restorations. Please leave it alone. Care for it like it is. Preserve the authenticity of what it is!!!
I like how these guys aren’t trying to rip this old man off unlike some other jerks who had tv shows where they say things like I need this car at yadda yadda yadda number so i can make all the profit , they valued the car honestly
He would never restore that car. Dishonest people use these tactics to lower prices. Cleaned up it is worth between 90 and 110. It could be cleane up perfect for 3 or 4 k
I have a Boss 302, without the correct engine, actually a real 351Boss. Body pretty solid, nothing close to that, people randomly stop by to buy, last guy came with cash, I said it's not for sale. I wouldn't consider $30,000. $50,000 for that car is criminal.
Boomers always wanting to totally restore stuff. Leave it alone! It's absolutely perfect as is, and it's got a history that can never be brought back after restoration.
Wow - had a lot of respect, and then he said what he'd pay and appraise it at - immediately gone. Do NOT sell it to this man. Put it out on the open market - and get what it really is worth.
The guy should drive the car till the tyres fall off,who cares 70 years old,, get out and have some fun dude, , nice car, but needs to be driven and enjoyed,,, not restored,, to be left another 50 years,,,
I HAVE DREAMED AND LUSTED OVER THIS CAR IN THIS SPEC ALL MY LIFE. I GOT A MODEL OF A YELLOW BOSS 302 WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID AND NOW MY DAUGHTER HAS IT NOW.
Don't ever let someone who wants to buy your car appraise it....for obvious reasons. I drove a Boss identical to this one in the early 70's and have owned numerous ones since that time. This car is six figures....period!
What does a wholesale vs. retail value even mean for a collector car such as this? It’s not a run of the mill used car. The appraisal does seem low to me based on originality. I think the only reason this video exists is because Bob wasn’t able to buy this car for 40k. If Bob knows of any Boss 302 in this condition and this original for under 60k I will buy it tomorrow. We didn’t see condition of the underside so maybe there is significant rust there. That is the only thing I can’t think of for such a vehicle. I hope if Darrell ever sells the car that he gets as much as he can since he’s been such a great caretaker of the car.
Wholesale on a collector car means having what we call "a little room.' Retail means no room. For example, you can buy a "done" car for say $100,000 and you buy the unrestored car for $50,000 and invest $50,000 to make it $100,000. You've paid full retail, but why not then just go out and get a done car to start with? Well, that's what most people do when the price is too high. A wholesale price would be a little less to allow room and payment for your time and work. I think what you are missing here is not realizing the passion of real collectors such as Bob and how they make money in the hobby, which is their business. Perkins would be one of the few people in the world to have the parts and expertise to take this car to another level, which if a regular person bought they would have to take to a person like Bob - if they could get the shop time - and then pay to restore and be underwater. The owner of this car, it turns out, did not want to sell the car at that time, or he wanted to take his time, which is understandable. If you want a Boss 302 with more miles but in better unrestored, original condition than this, email me and I'll send you to one and I'm not asking for a dime out of anybody. I do this channel, but I am also an enthusiast with cars. The way I made money with cars was to buy and hold for a long time, but I did not buy my cars to sell. I just wanted them. jerryheasley@gmail.com
$ 500 if you kick in the parts......The sad part is I'm sure there was at least one moron or two that really did offer him that! And they were probably simple minded enough to not understand why he never got back to them. Lol
When I returned from Vietnam I wanted to buy a new 68 Mustang fastback 390 w/4 speed; cost was $3900. I shopped for something a little less expensive, and ended up buying a ‘68 Roadrunner 383 w/4 speed for $2900 from Tower Motors in San Diego. Loved street racing the MoPar, but 426 Hemi’s were king. Good times back then.
Seems like something that should go to jay leno and only have the houses and the fuel lines changed on it for the safety of the car, as its only original once, hell even cleaning up the paint seems like the wrong thing to do, interior and trunk though, well if your gonna be driving it, that has to be cleaned up for health reasons. IE its a BMO, Basic Maintenance Only..
Untouched and original no rust and engine runs? You'll never see one like this ever again. It's worth 1 million. The Judge should have given the toothless man 90k.
It's a nice car, but no way it's a $90K car, you need to get back in touch with reality and stop watching those bull shit made for TV fake ass auctions
His offer seems low but it will cost a bit to get it nice again (you're not going to take it to a show blowing blue smoke, misfiring and no brakes). It is 50 years old and will need to be gone through but I'd never fully restore an original car like that. They are only original once!
This is a great video for us car enthusiasts, the insults about the owner and the appraiser is pathetic. We appreciate seeing someone explaining about and seeing American muscle car history. Thanks
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Easily worth that and then some. I have no doubt that a bidding war would ensue on Bring A Trailer or a Meechem auction and then the sky is the limit. If a guy like Tim Allen or any wealthy car guy really wanted it the final selling price could sky rocket to the hundreds of thousands of dollars
No way, I’m on Bring A Trailer every day and a one owner, completely original, near mint condition Boss 302 Mustang with 11k miles would fetch way above 65 thousand and if a few rich guys started bidding against each other that price could easily sky rocket . “ There only original once “
@@geenowalker that bob even stated multiple times the car will clean up real nice without much attention. That offer was sucha lowball scumbag offer. That car such nice preserved example. The owner didnt crush it or ruin it by "modifying" it
Leave it alone the car seems like it would be worth more then that guy a praised it for of course he's tring to buy it I've seen plain Jane mustangs go for more then that
This appraiser is gonna b like Richard Rawlins...low ball a price make it sound like it's a gd deal like 40k for instant and already got a buyer lined up to pay double that....they just rip people off.
A lot of credit goes to the owner for keeping it stored inside, and preserving it to the extent he has. Very nice of him to allow you in and to make this video. Love the details-like all the paperwork, and how the paint masking differs from plant to plant. Great story. Very watchable.
Thanks very much for your thoughtful words.
I HAVE PAINTED CARS FOR 47 YEARS. WHEN GM USED LAQUER AND FORD AND CHRY USED ACHRILIC ENAMEL. BEFOR BASE COAT CLEAR COAT CAME OUT.DURING THAT TIME I USED A AIR FED RESPERATOR , AND I NEVER PAINTED IN MY TIETY WHITES
Just great! Always enjoy Bob. I’ve even called him before with questions. Super nice guy!
Imagine back then storing a really great car and never driving it for 50 years. These old Mustangs are soo dang fascinating for me (the fastbacks). Maybe reminds me of my fav hotwheels car back in the day.
DONT....TOUCH....A....SINGLE....THING....ON......THAT....FREAKIN....CAR! They’re only original ONCE. Just give her a good, gentle cleansing to make her look PERFECT and call it a day. And like someone else said, at least 80k. Give the guy that for taking EXCEPTIONAL CARE of this piece of automotive history.
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
My brother bought a Mustang, new in 1967, for $3,200...had the 289-4V, 4-speed manual, convertible top...but before everyone thinks 'wow, in this video we see a Boss 302 for $4500, new!', you need to consider the time this was, and the state we were in at the time...we were in (or deepening into) Vietnam, gas was cheap, but jobs were pretty hard to find...and in my brother's case, he worked for a MAJOR aerospace company (in aircraft production), and was bringing home $116 to $121 A WEEK for pay! At the same time, it was VERY RARE for a bank to carry a car loan longer than 24 months (first 36 month long car loan I ever saw, was when my mother wanted her own car in 1971, and the bank provided the note to her)...so in most loans, you'd divide your payment (say, $2,000, after you put up 30-50% of the purchase value in your own cash...a lot larger down payments were MANDATORY back then!), by 24-months...and even like now, if your car payment exceeds 25% of your monthly income, you're going to get into a BAD BIND quickly in your budget...so, $100 a week was about all that most 'blue collar' Americans could afford on a car note, IF THEY HAD A DECENT JOB!
(on a side note...it was after the FDIC bailouts of 1980, that home loans WERE EVER allowed to extend to 15-years, too...when I was a kid, you could get a decent family home in most areas for $5k to $7k, but the notes were on 5-7 year timelines, on average)...
Yes folks didn't earn much money for jobs back in the early 1970's but my parents house was little over 40k in 1975. It was a 2,000 sqft and 75% brick outer structure.
They try to poke their eyes out and lowball is what gets me. 100 k car for sure .
Wth this ninja knows clamp numbers by heart. I'm so behind the curve
I hope he didn't give this gem away to that stinking thief for no 50 G's. That car would get 5 to six times that at auction. 50G's, dam, you can't even buy a decent replacement, if you were to take that money and go shopping for something new. That's an insult, and if I were the owner, I'd take him off the list of potential buyers, let alone call him first. That makes me so mad, to see someone who knows what it's worth, to go and try and steal the car from a guy who obviously loved it and took extra care of it for all those years, and hardly even drove it. Shame on him!!!!! Just read through the comments to see if others felt the same way I do about the price. Now, if that many people could warn potential sellers, this thief, could be put out of business! And rightly so!!!!!
250k plus
Nah end of times here. $100,000 or get the fxxx off my property. That car is gold.
Our painter at the fab shop I worked at was grumpy every morning until he painted his first tank after that he was a happy man the rest of the day lol
100k would be a solid starting point, how many are still out there in that same condition untouched...
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
Exactly it could fetch 250k imo
Rookie with a BR - yeah right. It doesn’t matter because he’s a hoarder and hoarders don’t sell. He will pass on and his dumbass kids will sell it on Craigslist for $25K.
@@petersouthernboy6327 ur mad ur old was didnt buy one
Rookie with a BR - I collect big block muscle cars. Would much rather have a Boss 429 Mustang.
Do all the people basing their opinion on the value of this car by what they see on TV and auctions get a grip the man valued the car fairly and yes if the original paint comes out awesome it’ll add $20-$25,000 to the value it’s not $100,000 car he valued it fairly and knows what he’s doing. The warped perception of the value of classic cars is out of control, especially people that don’t know the difference between a smog pump and a power steering pump. I also believe that a lot of these opinions are based on envy and jealousy to all the people saying it’s 100 K plus are any of you gonna pay that ummm no! Another great video. I hope this man’s car goes to the right place and gets kept original. Cheers.
Thanks for saying what I want to say.
@@thewriter2549yes… interestingly: money , Rumour & Drama inflate some……!
extremely rare to see a car like that at an auction. Examples like this are often traded by word of mouth by the big players in the hobby (of which Perkins is most assuredly one of the very few Boss experts). Do you really think 50K was a fair offer? That was insulting. Just the 2 left tires could probably sell for well over 10K.
Jerry, I really hope that guy doesn’t end up with this car. He’s already got enough mustangs to last him the rest of his life.
He has the parts, facilities and expertise to turn this car into one of the best in the world, which if he doesn't do it, who would and who can? When Bob talked about not that many left, he didn't refer to just any Boss 302, he referred to cars like this - low miles and all there. This car has potential few other Boss 302s out there have, if the right person saves it as such. You think he wants this car that bad? Nah, he has a passion for classic Mustangs, which is why he has done so much good for this hobby, like saving back that Hubert Platt car for 20 years and gathering parts and working years to return it to its glory days. This takes stamina and purpose to do. You look at this as taking, when it is giving. Greedy, self-serving people would not have let me go along to video this story, fearing somebody else would get the car. Bob wants to save it and build it up, so I hope I can make this clear to understand.
Jerry Heasley I don’t know...I understand what you’re saying, but it just doesn’t feel right. Why don’t you tell Bob him and I should talk about taking this car off his plate. I’ve got just as much resources as he does and would show case this vehicle to another type of audience that Bob can’t reach.
Seen one even nicer and just as original at a car show before. Seeing that dealer card with the price in the window was a trip through time.
Must have played some Ice Hockey
$65,000 range? Yeah right! Should start at $100,000
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
damn nothing gets better
Good video, seems like a great guy. Loved his car.
Wow ! What a find. And to think of all the stuff we thru out for the sake of drag racing . Clamps and useless solenoids speedo cables .I even know of a guy who through out a complete W-31 ram air set up for a 68 Cutlass S
Impressive car ! HAPPY MOTORING !
I don't think you want him sleeping on that $500 offer. He's probably going to have nightmares about it! lol
No way in hell would I restore that car,keep it just like that and drive it once a month.
Gorgeous Find
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Not too rare back in 1970, but how many are LEFT now in 2020? And rarer yet, is the 11, 500 miles on it , original tires, original for 99.9% of the rest of the car... That is what makes this 50 year-old surviver so special... Especially the muscle cars... So many of those were just hammered soon after they left the factory.... When this car is cleaned-up, it will be worth a lot!!!
Michael Martinez - here’s the problem - this guy is a hoarder, and hoarders don’t sell. They can’t. Ever. And with hoarders - the family resents him for it. Unfortunately this man will pass on, and his dumbass kids will sell it on Craigslist for $20K.
@@petersouthernboy6327 If the family sells the car for $20k , then you should be happy . Your initial post was lamenting people overvaluing old muscle cars . The car is worth ... what some one will pay for it .
If jeff bezos decides he wants that car and offers $250k for it , thats what its worth .
I think they watch one to many made for TV fake ass auctions and they think every old car out there is worth a quarter million dollars.
@@petersouthernboy6327 And that is exactly how it works too, hoarders really are fuck up people
I have a buddy that had a totally original, extremely low mileage Boss 302. He sold it and purchased a new house.
I seen the look of bewilderment in his eyes when offered five hundred only if he kicked in the parts. Part of him wanted to kick someone in the nuts and the other said he is joking and it isn't your wife or daughter. Its a shame the mouse in the house or headliner to be exact. Not many other kids had a mustang where I was raised. I bought the 428 four speed one and basically drove it into the ground when I knew ford was going to take it and I wasn't going to leave them much... In the end, I couldn't hurt it that much without it hurting me so driving on a flat once and melting tires was about the worst. I could just get gas for it. I had got out of the service and used what money I had to buy but with insurance, payments got thin and then the baby was born so I drove it back to the lot with my dog tags on the key chain and walked away. It wasn't easy but I bought chevy's for a while. Because of that, then gm took my rig and I was paid up. I had to sue and win years later for my money but got it back almost double. I never bought another chevy after that. I finally bought a nice 76 highboy tricked out and it was nice... too nice and it was a magnet for others to run into. Three accidents and none my fault got my licence pulled for five years. I bought a plain jane dodge truck then and it blew up on the way home and my original ford guy came out and apologized to me so I have run ford since.
he was thinking wow 500k just for a second....
No
Well , thanks… I did look at a’70 BOSS 302 , in Spring 1970( graduation Purdue): unfortunately, Dealer not allow “ test Drive” & only a long drive with SALES M@N DRIVING. Interestingly, took overnight Test, a 1970 Dart GTS(???, all green/Dealer Prep Pursuit /340/special Auto/tires/ Shocks: incredible,& very good & appealing),Anyways, the Boss to “expensive “for newly Married & another year for Spouse)….We ended up getting a 1970 Dodge CORONET 500/383/loaded, in Fall 1970 for some** $3100.00 “full price”…( figuring I could add some MOPAR *& good upgrades,etc…If I remember, BOSS 302/etc. were full priced *Plus, at least in some parts Northern Indiana…….
now you are a millionaire and can afford any car you want ....
Bob is extremely intense to detail
I know of two '70 Mustangs, one is a Mach1 it is rough but it is all there and a Boss 302, about 42k but it is all stripped down, the car has zero rust , it has been hit in the front fender near the door and the heater is crushed , otherwise it is great shape.
These guys are trying to low ball you. If you ever decide to sell you deserve full retail value for such a low mileage , original, unrestored muscle car.
Love this.
Take it too MECUM AUTO AUCTIONS. ???? MIGHT BE ur best deal .
I love this channel!
That car was worth a lot of money
What about that positive battery cable to the solenoid? That’s not stock, almost positive. It would have been a different shade of red and smaller gauge, even on a Boss. That’s the first thing I noticed.
Red Greens long lost brother
I have a cousin that has to bump a few lines to paint. If not he shakes too. It true Jerry.
I believe you.
Lines being bumped in garages ? Are you serious ? Hahaha
On price I would say as it sits, my estimated value would be 70 to 85 K. What this car has is originality and documented provenance that cannot be reproduced or restored if it was missing. We are about at the end of finding cars in this unique preserved condition, documented and low mileage. His offer could be considered reasonable if no one else is willing to show up with the cash to make a higher offer. Keep in mind that there will always be a collector who is willing to pay a premium for what this car is inspite of some potential future market changes and the current corona crisis. The owner was really one of those rare people thinking ahead decades ago and cherished what he had with a preservationist mind. It would only cost 2 to 3 k to clean this car up with preservation methods. And then you won't be able to touch it for less than $100,000.
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
@@petersouthernboy6327 under normal assumptions, you are correct. But there is an ever growing group of collectors willing to pay exuberant premiums for cars with known and documented provenance, 1 owner, original paperwork, and unmolested factory condition, even in rough shape. Complete original dealer paperwork from the originalbuyer, A 1 original state title, original accessory tags and dash tags. Etc. This is a much higher threshold then just looking for matching numbers. If future sales data matches much older cars from the 1900s to 1940s and 50s, for this unique category, then it will only go up in value. I find it common that many collectors poo hoo and diminish cars like this when they want to buy them or desperately want them for cheap, but then go on to acknowledge the value of these things once in their possession. There are many beautiful full restoration vehicles in many categories. And the old joke is " You can have a $100,000 car!!.....and it will only cost you $ 200,000 to do it." There's a market for untouched documented cars. And they are by no means Concours cars. Did you ever watch Antique Road Show?? And the common sight of people for example, bringing in rare items with a response of " well? if you wouldn't have restored it, and left it original ugly finish and all, it would fetch 80k. But since you did, it's worth $ 2,500. Most cars at shows are a shadow of their originality. And yes, there will always be a market for those too.
bcabmac - He’s a hoarder and hoarders never sell. He’ll pass on and his dumbass kids will sell it on Craigslist for $25K.
@@petersouthernboy6327 Lmao! I can't argue that one, because unfortunately I've seen it happen too many times. The last one, I found out after the fact that after the original owner passed away, the family sold a very rare 1 owner documented car to young Hispanic guy that had no idea what he had. He stripped it out, including all the rare impossible to find parts, trashing them in the process, chopped it, put airbags on it, and it now looks like an episode of Pimp my Ride. So this seller has 2 choices, find the right buyer in the right market or find the right home.
bcabmac - at least half of the desirable vehicles I’ve looked at - obscene cash on hand, same exact scenario. And the kids are so frustrated and embarrassed about all the junk that they are in a hurry to get it all cleared out once they get possession. Frequently it all ends up in probate. These hoarders will have so much junk that the Title can’t be found. It’s really tragic tbh.
Pay the man! You're lowballin
He said it wasnt for sale yet.
I have a question. How do you get money to buy all of those cars? It's insane. What does he do for a living just collect cars? I don't know how people just have money out of thin air?
Not out of thin air, but from 40 years restoring vintage Mustangs, and buying and selling cars and parts. All car collectors are either wealthy or become wealthy. While other people work and then go home to eat and watch TV, car collectors like Bob build equity working on cars in their garage/shop, and buying and selling in the hobby. I learned a long time ago this hobby is not for lazy people. Go to a car show and you will see them up at the crack of dawn prepping their car. They will the first at the swap meet finding the good buys, which they know because they had the cars apart for restoration and they know what to buy. If I told you about deals Bob has made and other people like him in this hobby have made you would be amazed. Bob visited over 3,000 Ford dealerships in the 1980s and 1990s on his way to MCA shows. He would haul his 1500-mile Boss 302 to the show and the Ford dealers knew he was a serious collector. He bought out so many NOS parts it is unbelievable.
@@Bangkok-ik1fp As honest as it gets...
@@thewriter2549 a local ford parts guy bought a ton of NOS parts over the years and had a hoard. Employee discount and the computer to locate them.
Bob worked hard at restoring cars (bought first low mile boss as a guide) , good hearted , good wisdom , good ambition , and never stops learning . He was a school teacher and bought the first one as business loan finance. He promoted mustang monthly as they promoted him. Very smart arrangement. And if you want all the blessings , marry a virtuous woman and u be a virtuous man
As someone who has an original 81’ Z28, I would really like to talk to an expert about restoring the car.
You're going to want to find Joe Dirt, he would be the only expert on anything requiring a mullet to drive.
Very good stuff!!
Thanks Chris.
I wouldn’t give a mustang to bob because he has a lot of other mustang give it to a car guy who would drive it occasionally
I’d drive it and enjoy it
I do with all my cars,classic or not they are gonna rot one way or another.
If this was my car, no less than 70k the conversation would start at...lol
Hey Bob, don't restore it. They're only original once, and they really don't get much more original than that. Cleaned up and sympathetically perfected, it's a 1 of 1 time capsule, restored it's just another highfalutin' thoroughbred Boss 302 with date coded air in the tires. Big whoop.
Yea way low isn’t the word. Don’t sell to CROOKS!
It's a labor of love. If they love it they will take the loss on the purchase and restoration.
At around 14.00 there talking around 50 grand what a joke folks that's a insult I would have sold it to anybody but never them this thing had the original tires
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm not anywhere near an expert, but I thought that it would go for a lot more than that. But maybe that's the market value now?
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Blows my mind, people call these ‘experts’ they allow themselves to get ripped off!
Bring it to an auction and let the world determine its value!
t dang I don’t think Bob is BSing. He’s probably on the money as far as Mustang circles and the ‘nuts & bolts ‘ of it go... BUT the fact that this car is practically Day One would suit the fancy of a much broader audience - muscle car fans in general, collectors who only do unrestored cars, etc. That’s why I suggest the owner hires Bob to get it just right for auction and reps the car at a big name auction. And let the market decide. This car could be the marquee attraction!!
your correct
An exact, exact Boss 302....same color, year, etc and I, with my RoadRunner, in 1972 raced most of the way on old Highway 16 in southern Minnesota and out onto interstate 90, sometimes me ahead, sometimes him ahead....until we stopped at a truckstop on interstate and had lunch and bullshitted together for quite some time. Got to know each other. I'm 73 now.....can't remember his name. We were both young bucks then.....I wonder.....The RoadRunner is long gone, unfortunately...... I hope that Bob gave he old boy a good price for it and didn't screw him over.
Man, that is a very cool story. The memories! What if that is indeed the same dude?
If the 67 Shelby GT-500 that was wasted and altered is worth $65,000 then this car completely original and near mint condition has to be worth at least $100k ..
It's not always the the condition of the car but the style, type and rarity. A Shelby will always bring money to the table than a Boss.
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I sure hope that this owner didn't sell that car for no 45-55k. That would be robbery.
That's a 100,00 dollar Boss 302 all day long!
YUP, THATS WHAT I SAID, SHOULD START AT $100,000
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
@joseph thomas hoarders never sell. Ever.
What a awsome find. That owner seemed very nice. He very emotionally attached to his car as I would b to. God bless all
Work out after some research what you think and would like to get for the car, then when your happy with a price take it to auction and put a reserve on it , make up your mind your not letting it go for a penny less, if it doesn,t get your reserve , take it back home, gaurntee someone will get in touch through auction house , stick to your guns , you,ll get what you want ,personally I would stick $80,000 on this example.
After watching the entire video, $45-$75 g’s is way too cheap !! Serious this car is worth @ least $100’grand if not more !!! It’s only new once and with those low miles and all the original documentation and the originality of this car !!!!! Well kept up too, clean it up and don’t restore it !! It’s Only Original Once !!!! 👍👍❤️❤️👍👍👍👍😊😊😊
Mecum auto auctions ??
ANY car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Period. With newer generations preferring performance to nostalgia that number is likely to fall as us old guys who value old cars die off.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
$50,000?? That's a completely lowball number....Hope he does not sell for that to him.
I think the oo was low balled. That's a $75,000 car, with a few days of cleaning. Maybe more. The orig paint, is mint.
It was obviously parody and the guy was joking.
@@almodequindre8601 he didn't get the joke
@@korymanuel7158 I guess not.
Put the car on Bring A Trailer and I bet it would fetch well over 100k . The guy who does Hagerty Barn Find Hunter on RUclips sold his rare but worn out 1967 Ford Country Squire wagon on B.A.T. a few months ago and got 80 grand for it so the sky is the limit on that mint Boss 302
That car should stay exactly as it is. It would be a shame to restore such a great survivor.
In about 1989, my wife won a 1969 Grabber Green Boss 302. At that time, Chief Auto Parts (if my memory of the name is correct) sponsored the NHRA national race at the Texas Motorplex near Ennis Texas and was giving away the Boss and a Chevrolet ??? to promote the race. They had discount tickets (or coupons) to the race at their stores. My wife went to their store in Cleburne Texas and bought some tickets. Unknown to her, she was entered in the contest to win one of the cars. A few weeks after the race, she got a call telling her she had won and asking here to return to the store to be presented with the car. She thought it was a joke but went anyway and was given the car.
The car would hardly run and we took it to the Ford dealer in Cleburne and the mechanics there knew little to nothing about Boss's and couldn't fix it. They also thought it might be a fake. After some research we found out it was a valuable car ( I didn't know what is was at first) and we found a Mustang restorer in Benbrook Texas who verified it was authentic and fixed it. Earlier he had been at the race in Ennis and had hoped he would win the car.
We drove it some on the back roads. I remember it being pretty fast but it road walked a lot. We lived in the country at the time and didn't have a garage for it. Although the car was parked over a hundred yards from the highway, a lot of people stopped by and wanted to buy it. I think some of them thought we didn't know the value of the car and were hoping to get it for a song.
We eventually sold it to someone from Alvarado Texas for $17,500 in about 1990 or 1991. We thought about keeping it but didn't have a garage and were also concerned that we could blow up the engine on our back road drives. Also we didn't have a lot of money.
69 air cleaner on a 70 - what is up with that? Car is worth 75K as it sits and probably would go north of that if properly advertised, auctioned AS IS. Even the Dearborn Autolite assembly line radiator cap was there.
Would you like to make an offer?
Why the heck would they want to restore this car? GIVE ME A BREAK!
This tool who is trying to steal this car for 40 grand less than what it's really worth.
Let the toothless man keep his Mustang. I don't understand why Bob has to own every single Mustang he lays his greedy little lustful Eyes Upon. Let the man enjoy.
I agree this guy owns already some beautiful mustangs. This guy is like a kid who just wants wants wants
Because every car he owns, catalogues, touches up, restores and preserves is a car that can be used as a reference point in the future of the Mustang hobby, not stripped, mangled or screwed up by a backyard mechanic with a couple of rattlecans of “resale red” paint. He’s not “greedy”. He’s a preservationist, first and foremost.
@@MrJett1971 it's a form of greed.
Mr. E so the louvre in France, or the smithsonian institution are greedy, then, too, by your definition... Preservation is more important than a rare car wasting away in a garage, in my eyes.
@@MrJett1971 no I believe the organizations that you mentioned are necessary for preservation. But if someone from the Smithsonian went driving around and had to just have every single rare item they would be a nuisance. As a matter of fact, even if he bought stuff from this gentleman that is the whole Foundation of his relationship with him. Once he gets what he is after, he probably won't even say hi to the guy.
This car should sell for 90 or 100 grand.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Drive this car like it is. PLEASE!! This is a true piece of unaltered americana. Leave it alone.
And I'm usually 99.9 percent in favor of restorations. Please leave it alone. Care for it like it is. Preserve the authenticity of what it is!!!
These guys should be arrested for trying to rob the man in his house
Rule #1. Never sell to an appraiser. It is unethical.
I know it’s like he’s clearly going to do himself out of dollar 💵🤦♂️
I like how these guys aren’t trying to rip this old man off unlike some other jerks who had tv shows where they say things like
I need this car at yadda yadda yadda number so i can make all the profit , they valued the car honestly
Wow but no tyre air bottle?? Love it when an expert says "I've never seen that before". or the number on the heat riser hose clamp...
If there were a tire air bottle, it would be UNDER the spare tire. At least mine was, in 1970.
He would never restore that car. Dishonest people use these tactics to lower prices. Cleaned up it is worth between 90 and 110. It could be cleane up perfect for 3 or 4 k
All original perfect one owner low miles perfect paintall it needs is to be cleaned and detailed it's a showpiece museum-quality 50k is laughable
Its a survivor dont touch it!
You'll be sorry
I have a Boss 302, without the correct engine, actually a real 351Boss. Body pretty solid, nothing close to that, people randomly stop by to buy, last guy came with cash, I said it's not for sale. I wouldn't consider $30,000. $50,000 for that car is criminal.
Boomers always wanting to totally restore stuff. Leave it alone! It's absolutely perfect as is, and it's got a history that can never be brought back after restoration.
Wow - had a lot of respect, and then he said what he'd pay and appraise it at - immediately gone. Do NOT sell it to this man. Put it out on the open market - and get what it really is worth.
This is my uncle's car. I doubt he'd part with it no matter how much.
colleen jones if he’s your uncle make sure to tell him they are full of shit. The car is worth way more then 65k.
I'm appalled by the number of people that thought that the offer of $500 was real!
The guy should drive the car till the tyres fall off,who cares 70 years old,, get out and have some fun dude, , nice car, but needs to be driven and enjoyed,,, not restored,, to be left another 50 years,,,
Since the tires are 50 years old, it wouldn't take many miles for them to fall off 🤣
I HAVE DREAMED AND LUSTED OVER THIS CAR IN THIS SPEC ALL MY LIFE. I GOT A MODEL OF A YELLOW BOSS 302 WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID AND NOW MY DAUGHTER HAS IT NOW.
Same here too!!! 👍👍❤️❤️
Don't ever let someone who wants to buy your car appraise it....for obvious reasons. I drove a Boss identical to this one in the early 70's and have owned numerous ones since that time. This car is six figures....period!
I have no clue how I came across this but man it made me happy to watch. Thank you sirs.🙏
Absolutely beautiful rare gem find.
Please dont restore it...its only original once
What does a wholesale vs. retail value even mean for a collector car such as this? It’s not a run of the mill used car. The appraisal does seem low to me based on originality. I think the only reason this video exists is because Bob wasn’t able to buy this car for 40k. If Bob knows of any Boss 302 in this condition and this original for under 60k I will buy it tomorrow. We didn’t see condition of the underside so maybe there is significant rust there. That is the only thing I can’t think of for such a vehicle. I hope if Darrell ever sells the car that he gets as much as he can since he’s been such a great caretaker of the car.
Wholesale on a collector car means having what we call "a little room.' Retail means no room. For example, you can buy a "done" car for say $100,000 and you buy the unrestored car for $50,000 and invest $50,000 to make it $100,000. You've paid full retail, but why not then just go out and get a done car to start with? Well, that's what most people do when the price is too high. A wholesale price would be a little less to allow room and payment for your time and work. I think what you are missing here is not realizing the passion of real collectors such as Bob and how they make money in the hobby, which is their business. Perkins would be one of the few people in the world to have the parts and expertise to take this car to another level, which if a regular person bought they would have to take to a person like Bob - if they could get the shop time - and then pay to restore and be underwater. The owner of this car, it turns out, did not want to sell the car at that time, or he wanted to take his time, which is understandable. If you want a Boss 302 with more miles but in better unrestored, original condition than this, email me and I'll send you to one and I'm not asking for a dime out of anybody. I do this channel, but I am also an enthusiast with cars. The way I made money with cars was to buy and hold for a long time, but I did not buy my cars to sell. I just wanted them. jerryheasley@gmail.com
That car is easy worth 100k. He’s trying to steal it when it obviously has more mustangs than just about anybody
Old muscle cars are more desirable today than they were back in the day. Priceless
$ 500 if you kick in the parts......The sad part is I'm sure there was at least one moron or two that really did offer him that! And they were probably simple minded enough to not understand why he never got back to them. Lol
That car should never been restored. Clean it up remove the owner applied spray on undercoating. Fix the non-ford items.
If I was Darrell, I would hire Bob to prep and represent the car at Barrett Jackson or Mecums- you know it would be the star of the show!!!
You can loose 20 percent of your money to those auction houses. If you know how to sell it, you can make a hell of a lot more.
When I returned from Vietnam I wanted to buy a new 68 Mustang fastback 390 w/4 speed; cost was $3900. I shopped for something a little less expensive, and ended up buying a ‘68 Roadrunner 383 w/4 speed for $2900 from Tower Motors in San Diego. Loved street racing the MoPar, but 426 Hemi’s were king. Good times back then.
I used to smoke Hemi cars with my 440 six pak Challenger. Got it tuned by the famous Dandy Dick Landy back in the day.
$50,000. Their ripping the guy off..
Ya it’s clean you won’t find one with all the stuff it had
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
Peter Southern Boy shut up
Peter Southern Boy doesn’t mean that many around in this great of a condition or low mileage
Talk about lowball offer on a survivor car….
Seems like something that should go to jay leno and only have the houses and the fuel lines changed on it for the safety of the car, as its only original once, hell even cleaning up the paint seems like the wrong thing to do, interior and trunk though, well if your gonna be driving it, that has to be cleaned up for health reasons. IE its a BMO, Basic Maintenance Only..
Untouched and original no rust and engine runs? You'll never see one like this ever again. It's worth 1 million. The Judge should have given the toothless man 90k.
It's a nice car, but no way it's a $90K car, you need to get back in touch with reality and stop watching those bull shit made for TV fake ass auctions
His offer seems low but it will cost a bit to get it nice again (you're not going to take it to a show blowing blue smoke, misfiring and no brakes). It is 50 years old and will need to be gone through but I'd never fully restore an original car like that. They are only original once!
Restore is different from one car to the next. There are many people that would get this car and ruin it - not Bob.
This is a great video for us car enthusiasts, the insults about the owner and the appraiser is pathetic. We appreciate seeing someone explaining about and seeing American muscle car history. Thanks
Appreciate the reinforcement.
Wise words Sir.
Air cleaner lid. An paperwork. Holy s..t. 100k all day. If not more. An thats just one guy estimate an he wants an knows!!!!
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
The way the prices of RARE classic cars are.... I wouldn't take anything less than $100 thousand for it.
So the guru of Ford Mustangs appraised it at 45-50k only that’s ridiculous. Easily worth over 100k at Auction I think he was low balled
Easily worth that and then some. I have no doubt that a bidding war would ensue on Bring A Trailer or a Meechem auction and then the sky is the limit. If a guy like Tim Allen or any wealthy car guy really wanted it the final selling price could sky rocket to the hundreds of thousands of dollars
These are often sold at Mecum in restored condition or as a survivor car, for the price hes being offered.
No way, I’m on Bring A Trailer every day and a one owner, completely original, near mint condition Boss 302 Mustang with 11k miles would fetch way above 65 thousand and if a few rich guys started bidding against each other that price could easily sky rocket . “ There only original once “
@@geenowalker that bob even stated multiple times the car will clean up real nice without much attention. That offer was sucha lowball scumbag offer. That car such nice preserved example. The owner didnt crush it or ruin it by "modifying" it
Leave it alone the car seems like it would be worth more then that guy a praised it for of course he's tring to buy it I've seen plain Jane mustangs go for more then that
This appraiser is gonna b like Richard Rawlins...low ball a price make it sound like it's a gd deal like 40k for instant and already got a buyer lined up to pay double that....they just rip people off.