same for dracula's death. according to the wikipedia page critic troy howarth states in his reference book "tome of terror" that a print exists in a hungarian archive.
Haha not sure if I'd go that far because he doesn't seem to know a great deal about movies but I 200% agree about being a guest on TCM!! I'd be so excited to see him in the intro to something like Living Dead or Dracula (31) or one of his other favorites. Furthermore, if they ever play the Mario movie he MUST do the intro.
Morgil a friend of mine made a fan made "collector's set" of early horror films and he used Monster Madness as "a special introduction by James Rolfe" and it really worked.
I dunno, from what I've seen, Jame's knowledge of film history seems to come from books, articles, personal experience and the internet, not independent research.
@@fernandobanda5734 Besides Vampire 1913 being found, a Betty Boop episode was found recently in 2019... In Russia. It was "Buzzy Boop at the Concert." All after it hadn't been seen for about 81 years. Buzzy is Betty's cousin who only showed up in 2 episodes. It's not one of my favorite Betty Boop episodes, but it's nice to see it.
JAMES!!! You missed a BIG one, one that is particularly pertinent to you! In 1920, before Nosferatu, F.W. Murnau did an unauthorized adaptation of JEKYLL AND HYDE. It's called "Der Januskopf" (The Head of Janus). The screenwriter, cinematographer, producer and star are the same people who did Caligari the same year. And apparently BELA LUGOSI had a role in this over a decade before he was Dracula. If I could resurrect any lost horror movie it would be this one. Hope you read this and maybe mention it in a different video. Love your work and can't wait for the next AVGN Halloween episode =)
THANK YOU soooo much for the likes guys =D I'm not some internet troll begging for likes, I actually want James and/or Mike to see this so they can talk about one of the most sought-after lost films. EVER! Let's bring this to their attention. And by the way...April of next year is the 30th anniversary of the Jekyll and Hyde game. James...it's time to face your past...
On an interesting technical note: This might've been an early movie with a moving camera shot. The script at one point calls for the camera to move up a flight of stairs. Reviews of the time also mentioned and lauded the "openly done" transformation sequence, which was supposed to have worked continously and almost unnoticeable on the screen. One wonders how it was achieved. Just clever cuts, an effect similiar to the 1931 version or a different transition method?
One thing people often forget is that silent films weren't silent. They had full musical scores, performed by in-house musicians. Just watch Metropolis; we have the score for that one, and the most recent version released includes the original score performed by an orchestra.
Oh shit you're right!! That's awesome, looked rather familiar =D Being an illustrated character they really got to stylize the Babadook and add all those Expressionist flairs. Aside from Max Schreck, Lon Chaney Sr. has to be the best horror actor ever.
James will have an tough time as a film school teacher as he will need to face bright students that fully understand the brilliance of Citizen Kane or the Matrix rather than like James describing it with no logic saying I didn't get it and I didn't like it lol. And with the fact and status of James being sent to a Special Education class as a kid is a huge disadvantage for him.
No, the 2010s are still worse. Keep in mind that the film industry in the 1910s basically didn't exist; movies were essentially just plays recorded on tape, and you don't have a play perform once, even if it's the same one.
What about the destruction of Louvain in 1914 by the Kaiser's army? A lot of valuable books were destroyed because the German's were afraid of Franc Tieuer's (snipers)
This is why I love Martin Scorsese so much as he is HUGELY passionate about film preservation. I love his films, but I love his dedication to preserving film history even more.
It's a shame that so many of these films have been lost. Classic horror movies, including the silent films are are ground breaking for the genre. They have what I call the "dark creepy look" that many horror movies lack today.
@@SonofSethoitae i meant that studios like loosecanon have done reconstructions with the surviving images from the lost episodes. Also all of the audio for each epsidoe still survives
@@cpkudrongaming6100 Yeah, I know, but they've still only done a couple of the stories. No where near close to all of them, which is what you initially said.
I wonder why nobody's ever thought of creating a new golem film. Golems are still widely known in the fantasy genre (novels, board games and video games), so it's not like the creature itself has fallen into obscurity. Hell, you've got plenty of movies like Dead Snow with Nazi zombies, imagine how cool it would be to see a film about a rabbi creating a golem to fend of Nazis.
Golly! I remember watching "Creature Features" on Saturday nights as a kid, with a big bowl of popcorn and 7up. Lon Chaney, Boris Karloff, Bella Lugosi. Gotta say, "Frankenstein" with Boris was my favorite!
With the Golem films and many of the lost films from Europe you can probably blame World War I, the Revolutions of 1918, the rise of the Nazis and the Soviets, and World War II for why so many were lost
@@jerryweber1768 lmao poor Wehraboo. I bet it crushes you that the poor defenseless Nazis got bombed to shit by superior firepower. Dresdan had military value to the Germans and had to be flattened.
They need to make a horror movie about a team of people trying to find a fictional lost horror film that has some sort of legend surrounding it. Maybe the movie is cursed and makes people go insane, or it was made by a director during a mental breakdown.
The one hurts the most is London After Midnight I once met Ron Chaney the great grandson of Lon Chaney and the grandson of Lon Chaney jr and he told me that its doubtful but he hasn't given up hope that he can find it
A remake starring jack nicklaus would probably be under par although there d be some great shots. It wood suit me to a tee especially the woods shots of the golden bear
Wow,those films from the 1910s wouldn't last a decade since film preservation weren't practiced in that era. But,should there be indeed a copy of these films from a private collector,these could be priceless,indeed.
kirby march Barcena it's not impossible, seeing as the 1910 Edison Frankenstein film was found. It's unlikely, but possible that someone somewhere has them
It is believed that one director named Georges Melies from that era,used to make 500 films a year.Very few of them survived even to the 1920s.However,every once in a while new ones keep showing up in some part of Europe or US.Apart from being a director,Melies was a magician/illusionist as well.The movies he made in 1900s show up even after a century..people say it's his greatest trick. :)
In any story, the villain is the catalyst. The hero's not a person who will bend the rules or show the cracks in his armor. He's one-dimensional intentionally, but the villain is the person who owns up to what he is and stands by it.
Technically not “horror” but I wish we could find the deleted scenes from the Wizard of Oz. Apparently most of the Wicked Witch’s lines were so scary for test audiences they had to cut them back. Like the “Surrender Dorothy” scene was meant to say “Surrender Dorothy or DIE.”
I theorize that the confusing shot of Japanese Kong next to the guy is actually of the movies resolution. It's Mega Samurai giving his final attempt to talk the monster down before he runs him through with his Megatana!
Lost movies are found all the time. Highly sought after lost films have shown up in places as random as mental hospitals, archives around the world and some Argentinian guys personal collection. Never give up, always keep searching and never stop wondering and dreaming. Isn't that what movies are all about?
@@gurvmlk Most depend heavily on "jump scares" thinking that's all you need to make a movie scary. These movies usually end up having little to no substance and not surprising horrible.
I think I’ve seen the golem, The 1915 edition, I can’t remember where I saw it, but I definitely saw it on a modern tv, basically it was disturbing as it was silent and felt like joker, just the character had no expression, I was very young and got very scared so I don’t think I watched a little, but I fell asleep and woke up when it ended, I seriously can’t remember where I saw it!
Could you name some good recent psychological horrors outside the States? Not being confrontational, I'm legitimately interested. Babadook from Australia was great but I don't know any others. I watch a lot of foreign movies but not many new ones.
I'm a big horror movie fan and I think that it's a shame that ALL these films are gone. I love Nosferatu, the silent version of Phantom of the Opera as well as the Cabinet of Doctor Caligari. As a matter of fact, the video for the Rainbow song "I Can't Let You Go" is based on the last film. Many of the children's shows that I watched growing up likewise are lost because nobody thought about preserving them so they were taped over. I get SAD when I think about it.
Many people still label it horror. I can understand that given the terrifying plot (especially the discarded part where the giant fucking centipedes descended upon the film crew!) the movie can be seen as horror but it is really in the action-adventure genre.
King Kong is considered a horror movie, both books I own on horror movies 'The Aurum Film Encyclopedia: Horror' and 'Terror On Tape' list it as such. It could be listed as an action-adventure movie, but that's partly because horror is one of the broadest genres ever: Action-adventure horror, sci-fi horror, horror-comedy, and so forth..heck there is even Western horror.
I just have a very narrow view of what should be called a "Horror" movie. I think movies like "The Exorcist" or "The Grudge/The Ring" would fit my definition of "Horror". When it comes to very old stuff like "King Kong" or very new movies like "Saw" then I would rather use the classification "Action Adventure" or "Thriller with Gore Elements". After all, movies are subject to the time they were made in and previously "Grimms Fairytales" could have been classified as horror once... times change!
Even though I don't really agree with your definition I fully see where you coming from. What I see is that for you horror is mostly about a frightening supernatural something beyond what we'd consider biologically possible. (Is that correct ?)
The image of Lon Chaney’s London After Midnight character is so iconic (it’s seems like I even remember seeing it as an action figure once?), I never realized the film itself is lost. That’s crazy and such a shame!
From my understanding, the Hungarian Dracula movie you mentioned was turned into a novel around the same time. I don't know how easy that is to find, but I doubt it's impossible to like it is with the books as book collecting was taken way more seriously.
It's sad, how many movies are missing. Especially the early ones. Good or bad, they're history. Even more, good or bad, they could be a learning device for novices, looking for a "fresh" take on videos.
It truly is amazing that there are people out there who do have an interest in these types of films. I keep hearing that without the blood and guts the movies are merely mislabeled as horror. Even though I'm a form believer that blood and gore has its place in horror there is so much more to it, which a lot of people today don't give proper credit to. Just acknowledging that horror is older than most people think is quite refreshing to hear.
Sadly for film stock this old, chances are if they haven't been found and preserved by now they're never going to be, and even if they are they're not going to be in a salvageable state. The only chance might be if a collector somewhere secretly has a copy they've been preserving or made backup copies of, but that's also very unlikely.
You can hear how much of a fan he is of movies in how he describes everything. Love hearing people talk about their passions. Keep up the good work dude!
I've always said that silent horror films are way more scarier with the way they filmed it and all of the props and the fact that it's left up to your imagination which is way more scared than anything that you could actually put. Modern Day horror films lack story and really anything good there just all blood guts and crap.
You mention the movie Vampire about a snake woman, just to let you know, Bram Stoker the Author of Dracula also wrote a book called The Lair of The White Worm which has a snake woman. Maybe they where connected.
I hope someone who knows bran stokers Dracula...the actual novel that is could ponder this with me. He states that it looks more like a mental institution for the one original Dracula movie. Now if it is in fact just a picture of an actual scene then couldn’t it be a picture of reinheld I believe his name was. The man who was becoming vampire and they kept him in an insane asylum. Is that possibly what the scene was. Interesting. Suprised he didn’t think of that
31FilmTalk well I was thinking about the oldest zombie flicks, starting with WHITE ZOMBIE, and then the ones through the 30s and 40s, like I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE, REVENGE OF THE ZOMBIES, REVOLT OF THE ZOMBIES, KING OF THE ZOMBIES, etc
That Russian Dracula would have been created 3 years after the communist revolution. If it was produced in a time of so much change than it makes since that it was lost because of everything that was taking place at the time.
the vampire 'snake woman' is probably about a Lamia - a vampire snake woman - see The Lamia - arguably the most beautiful song in The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - by Genesis
When he was talking about The Cat Creeps and The Cat and the Canary, he forgot to mention the 1939 sound film with Bob Hope. That's my favorite version of that movie.
Ho man, if one day i have a time machine, i would go to take the movies and bring them back to our time, before they destroy them. It's a part of movie history that was just destroyed ! It's such a shame ...
'Drakula's Death' is based on a c19 novella of the same name that has been translated into English by the British Library for their 'Gothic Horror' exhibit a few years ago (they published a lot of translations) the twist is that Drakula here is both Vlad the Impaler and Count Drakula.
Side note: Karl Freund. His career was pretty much over until Desi Arnaz hired him in the 1950s for a pittance to develop the three camera technique used with "I Love Lucy", which became the standard of television production.
If I had a time machine I would go back in time and tell people who handled these films to guard it with their life and find a way to share it with the public 100 years later
Good news, The Vampire from 1913 was found and it is preserved in the George Eastman film archive!
I shall worship who ever found it.
What?! You’re kidding! Seriously?! 😮
Gage Crawley yeah they found a print of it
I hope it's in good shape. I'd be unfortenate if it had burn marks or parts missing.
same for dracula's death. according to the wikipedia page critic troy howarth states in his reference book "tome of terror" that a print exists in a hungarian archive.
people who know who Nosferatu is:
- horror fans
- people who saw that one spongebob episode
I'm (C, all the above.
Who was flickering the lights?
Coda Symphony All of the above for me.
like me.........
- Probably also those who watched "Batman returns", since there's the character called Max Schreck, just like the actor playing Orlok. :)
James should be a film historian. They should invite him on Turner Classic Movies.
Haha not sure if I'd go that far because he doesn't seem to know a great deal about movies but I 200% agree about being a guest on TCM!! I'd be so excited to see him in the intro to something like Living Dead or Dracula (31) or one of his other favorites. Furthermore, if they ever play the Mario movie he MUST do the intro.
Morgil a friend of mine made a fan made "collector's set" of early horror films and he used Monster Madness as "a special introduction by James Rolfe" and it really worked.
I dunno, from what I've seen, Jame's knowledge of film history seems to come from books, articles, personal experience and the internet, not independent research.
Imagine Turner Classic Movies discussing the AVGN Movie
Independent research.. lmao.. On my way to Transylvania to find private film collectors now. What fucking retardation.
With every video Cinemassacre releases I feel a little bit less like an uncultured swine.
With every Cinemassacre release video I watch, I feel less of an uncultured swine.
I feel like an uncultured swine no matter what I do
Engel too bad you'll always be a hockey puck.
I still feel like a swine after watching it, less uncultured, but a swine nonetheless... And I ravel in it!
Bold statement sir ♥️
It's actually kind of depressing that probably none of these movies will ever be seen again in their entirety.
in heaven, everything is fine.
Vampire 1913 was found :)
Quite the opposite. Lost films continue to be found.
King Loser uh... thanks for that relevant comment?
@@fernandobanda5734 Besides Vampire 1913 being found, a Betty Boop episode was found recently in 2019... In Russia. It was "Buzzy Boop at the Concert." All after it hadn't been seen for about 81 years.
Buzzy is Betty's cousin who only showed up in 2 episodes. It's not one of my favorite Betty Boop episodes, but it's nice to see it.
JAMES!!! You missed a BIG one, one that is particularly pertinent to you! In 1920, before Nosferatu, F.W. Murnau did an unauthorized adaptation of JEKYLL AND HYDE. It's called "Der Januskopf" (The Head of Janus). The screenwriter, cinematographer, producer and star are the same people who did Caligari the same year. And apparently BELA LUGOSI had a role in this over a decade before he was Dracula. If I could resurrect any lost horror movie it would be this one. Hope you read this and maybe mention it in a different video. Love your work and can't wait for the next AVGN Halloween episode =)
THANK YOU soooo much for the likes guys =D I'm not some internet troll begging for likes, I actually want James and/or Mike to see this so they can talk about one of the most sought-after lost films. EVER! Let's bring this to their attention. And by the way...April of next year is the 30th anniversary of the Jekyll and Hyde game. James...it's time to face your past...
Nice info man!
On an interesting technical note: This might've been an early movie with a moving camera shot. The script at one point calls for the camera to move up a flight of stairs.
Reviews of the time also mentioned and lauded the "openly done" transformation sequence, which was supposed to have worked continously and almost unnoticeable on the screen. One wonders how it was achieved.
Just clever cuts, an effect similiar to the 1931 version or a different transition method?
Great addition to the list...Besides Lugosi, Conrad Veidt ( Caligari's sonambulast slave) is in Der Januskopf as well...
This is such a fascinating tidbit of information, thank you, kind sir!
The 1910s werewolf movie sounds like it could have been based on the skinwalker mythology.
Interesting.
That was my thought too! They may have just used a wolf or dog and not a werewolf costume
Maybe it's just me but the Golem looks a little like Dave Bautista.
Damned if he doesn't!
Let's petition a remake or sequel with Dave as the Golem.
Silvio Berlusconi takes gold.
Jokerz 79 I have been searching through the comments just to see if anyone else thought that. 😁
Jokerz 79 Why is Golem 😂
One thing people often forget is that silent films weren't silent. They had full musical scores, performed by in-house musicians. Just watch Metropolis; we have the score for that one, and the most recent version released includes the original score performed by an orchestra.
Perhaps they should've been called "speechless" films or no-talkies
They are called silent to differentiate from talkies, where the actors speak. Some scores from certain silent movies are unknown.
Gonna have to leave Area 51 with the complete print of London after midnight
Pick me up copy of pico school two while you at it
Reminds me of how we lost all silent films of the mexican cinema history because no one really took care of them.
I believe the oldest surviving Mexican film is Tepeyac (1917)
That sure sounds like the Mexican way to me!
I want to see “London After Midnight” and the two lost “King Kong” films really bad.
I know I’m replying a year after this comment but, why do I see you everywhere?
@@Flesh_licking_spider_monkeys I watch lots of stuff and we watch similar stuff I guess.
@@littlebigcomradehopefully they’ll get found
Lon Chaney's character from London after midnight inspired the babadook
I knew that looked familiar!
Came here to make that observation too! That’s pretty neat
Oh shit you're right!! That's awesome, looked rather familiar =D Being an illustrated character they really got to stylize the Babadook and add all those Expressionist flairs. Aside from Max Schreck, Lon Chaney Sr. has to be the best horror actor ever.
Funny I just noticed that as well
is it me or does he look like Doc from Back to the Future... ?
You really should consider becoming a teacher for film school.
kristof gergely At least he was a film school student, I heard from his reviews.
James will have an tough time as a film school teacher as he will need to face bright students that fully understand the brilliance of Citizen Kane or the Matrix rather than like James describing it with no logic saying I didn't get it and I didn't like it lol. And with the fact and status of James being sent to a Special Education class as a kid is a huge disadvantage for him.
Yes it is; The Matrix is the most brilliant film ever made.
Link to him admitting he went to SPED class?
dark city is the original matrix and much much better especially the directors cut.
It's sad some of these films are lost and forgotten . I for one would love to see them all remastered and seen on the big screen.
TERROR vision the native american werewolf film sounds badass
As for now, the 1910 Frankestein has been rediscovered and restored on 2016.
Agreed.
@@claudiobizama5603 same goes to 1913 vampire
The 1910s were ass! Too many reboots, remakes, and sequels.
Yeah you think the 2010s were bad with reboots? How about 20 Dracula reboots in one year!
And until I was this I though Vampire movies were over used in the late 2000's.
No, the 2010s are still worse.
Keep in mind that the film industry in the 1910s basically didn't exist; movies were essentially just plays recorded on tape, and you don't have a play perform once, even if it's the same one.
100 years and what have we learned? *N O T H I N G !*
One3673241 tis a joke
This and the burning of the library of Alexandria piss me off
What about the destruction of Louvain in 1914 by the Kaiser's army? A lot of valuable books were destroyed because the German's were afraid of Franc Tieuer's (snipers)
Hi Marik that never happened look it up
@@shawnmalone9711 pls
Such a waste.
This is why I love Martin Scorsese so much as he is HUGELY passionate about film preservation. I love his films, but I love his dedication to preserving film history even more.
imagine if there was a movie that was so lost that we didn't even know it existed... *mind blown *
HolographicSweater
There's bound to be lots
HolographicSweater There is, I don't know what it was called, who was in it, what it was about, or when it was made, but I know nobody remembers it.
Well you got Dracula (1920) so there's that
The HolographicSweater :0
Most movies from the silent era are unknown anyway (I mean movies so lost even the titles are missing)
It's a shame that so many of these films have been lost. Classic horror movies, including the silent films are are ground breaking for the genre. They have what I call the "dark creepy look" that many horror movies lack today.
Silence + The Uncanny Valley = Nightmare Fuel
Sin (1915), Cleopatra (1917), and F. W. Murnau's Der Januskopf (1920) are just a few films I wish were found.
I just seen a bit of Cleopatra there. A scene that was found about a year ago
James should make an updated version of this since some of the movies featured, like The Vampire and Dracula’s Death, have been found
Dracula's death hasn't been found, as far as I'm concerned.
@@goblinuldrogatinsmoalawhat do you mean by that
@@zachmetry6124 I think somebody said that the film was eventually found
@@goblinuldrogatinsmoala oh, then I hope it’s getting preserved
As a Doctor Who fan, I know what it's like to have missing films you wish you could see.
Yeah, but atleast the BBC has made recreations for almost if not all of the missing Hartnell and Troughton Episodes.
@@cpkudrongaming6100 Not really. I don't think they've done more than 10 stories at most, and most of Troughton's era is still lost.
@@SonofSethoitae i meant that studios like loosecanon have done reconstructions with the surviving images from the lost episodes. Also all of the audio for each epsidoe still survives
@@cpkudrongaming6100 Yeah, I know, but they've still only done a couple of the stories. No where near close to all of them, which is what you initially said.
Cpkudron gaming loosecanon is not official the bbc allows them because there is no way they can release them
I wonder why nobody's ever thought of creating a new golem film. Golems are still widely known in the fantasy genre (novels, board games and video games), so it's not like the creature itself has fallen into obscurity. Hell, you've got plenty of movies like Dead Snow with Nazi zombies, imagine how cool it would be to see a film about a rabbi creating a golem to fend of Nazis.
Nowdays they are considered more like "low level mooks"
I absolutely love the story and folklore behind the Golem and have often thought someone should revive it.
There is an episode of Supernatural (season 8 episode 13) in which a rabbi has a golem to fend off Nazis.
Jack Frost and an X-Files episode where they use the romantic version and an anti-semetic angle. Its really good.
Michael Ross What the fuck?
"Dracula's Death"
Way to spoil the movie, guys
Didn't a print of the 1913 The Vampire turn up in the George Eastman Film Museum's archives?
is there any way it can be watched?
Golly! I remember watching "Creature Features" on Saturday nights as a kid, with a big bowl of popcorn and 7up. Lon Chaney, Boris Karloff, Bella Lugosi. Gotta say, "Frankenstein" with Boris was my favorite!
With the Golem films and many of the lost films from Europe you can probably blame World War I, the Revolutions of 1918, the rise of the Nazis and the Soviets, and World War II for why so many were lost
And the fact that the film they used was flammable.
Another reason is because silver was used in the film and during ww1 they melted prints for silver
So called hero "Bomber Harris" leveled Dresden. Killing several hundred thousand and destroying who knows what.
@@jerryweber1768 lmao poor Wehraboo. I bet it crushes you that the poor defenseless Nazis got bombed to shit by superior firepower. Dresdan had military value to the Germans and had to be flattened.
Man, I hope they find London Afer Midnight.
@Tiny- Tyger1922 Exactly ! I am also trying to find the name of this film.
They need to make a horror movie about a team of people trying to find a fictional lost horror film that has some sort of legend surrounding it. Maybe the movie is cursed and makes people go insane, or it was made by a director during a mental breakdown.
Kind of like the hills run red?
"Cigarette Burns" by John Carpenter has that exact premise.
la rage du demon?
Hey thanks for the movie idea that i could make!!!!!
Maybe call it...Oh, I don't know..."Cinemassacre," maybe...?
The one hurts the most is London After Midnight I once met Ron Chaney the great grandson of Lon Chaney and the grandson of Lon Chaney jr and he told me that its doubtful but he hasn't given up hope that he can find it
A "London after midnight" remake starring Jack Nicholoson - that would be awesome
Jack Nicholson is a hack.
A remake starring jack nicklaus would probably be under par although there d be some great shots. It wood suit me to a tee especially the woods shots of the golden bear
Danny DeVito could also be a good decision if you look at his role as the penguin in Batman Returns
The Vampire (1913) was found and screened, but I wish someone like TCM would release it
Wow,those films from the 1910s wouldn't last a decade since film preservation weren't practiced in that era. But,should there be indeed a copy of these films from a private collector,these could be priceless,indeed.
kirby march Barcena it's not impossible, seeing as the 1910 Edison Frankenstein film was found. It's unlikely, but possible that someone somewhere has them
It is believed that one director named Georges Melies from that era,used to make 500 films a year.Very few of them survived even to the 1920s.However,every once in a while new ones keep showing up in some part of Europe or US.Apart from being a director,Melies was a magician/illusionist as well.The movies he made in 1900s show up even after a century..people say it's his greatest trick. :)
Yes, from the earth to the moon.
In any story, the villain is the catalyst. The hero's not a person who will bend the rules or show the cracks in his armor. He's one-dimensional intentionally, but the villain is the person who owns up to what he is and stands by it.
crapvile They might not know it. Like with The Golem, they may just think it's the surviving one.
6:02-6:05 "Hopefully someone can dig up these lost mummies." Great writing. Nice puns.
I wish that someday every Michael Bay movie will be lost.
Not The Rock though? Nothing with Sean Connery should be lost
I don't even wish that someday every Seltzer/ Friedberg comedy will be lost.
But then people would think they're good!
I hope his Dora the Explorer movie doesn't get lost, it sounds insane.
he is not doing it that rumour was proven to be bull shit
the lost films of the silent era is a great disappointment in film culture...i applaud those who recreate them.
Technically not “horror” but I wish we could find the deleted scenes from the Wizard of Oz. Apparently most of the Wicked Witch’s lines were so scary for test audiences they had to cut them back. Like the “Surrender Dorothy” scene was meant to say “Surrender Dorothy or DIE.”
October is a great month.
I theorize that the confusing shot of Japanese Kong next to the guy is actually of the movies resolution. It's Mega Samurai giving his final attempt to talk the monster down before he runs him through with his Megatana!
That Which Smashes I always thought that the lost Japanese version of King Kong was actually called King Wong but I could be wrong.
I really want to see those movies now, oh well, they'll hopefully be found one day.
Lost movies are found all the time. Highly sought after lost films have shown up in places as random as mental hospitals, archives around the world and some Argentinian guys personal collection. Never give up, always keep searching and never stop wondering and dreaming. Isn't that what movies are all about?
The man who laughs is one of my favorites!!!
I was actually wondering just yesterday if we have any updates on any of these lost films.
Nothing in the description, guess not...
Kevin Striker nope. All still lost.
Apparently 1913 vampire was found
The Babadook was obviously inspired charcter look wise by London After Midnight
I love silent horror movies! You are my idol James! I have loved your content for 5 years!!! I really would like to see you someday.
Silent horror movies rock !
Sad that classic movies like these are lost.
I hate gore horror. Shouldn't even be called horror.
@@gurvmlk Most depend heavily on "jump scares" thinking that's all you need to make a movie scary. These movies usually end up having little to no substance and not surprising horrible.
When the lights flicker on and off, remember about Nosferatu. For he's there, flicking the light switch on and off at 3am in the morning.
Lon Chaney in #2 kinda reminds me of how OZZY looked/dressed in I think Bark At The Moon an maybe some of his other videos in the 1980s
It is bittersweet to know such films existed...
I think I’ve seen the golem, The 1915 edition, I can’t remember where I saw it, but I definitely saw it on a modern tv, basically it was disturbing as it was silent and felt like joker, just the character had no expression, I was very young and got very scared so I don’t think I watched a little, but I fell asleep and woke up when it ended, I seriously can’t remember where I saw it!
The 1920 Golem is a great movie. Saw that on an event evening in Cinema once.
How
@@recommendedforyou2936 I suspect Lehnard is a vampire, a Karnstein maybe
@@goblinuldrogatinsmoala it's a lost movie that's why I asked
@@recommendedforyou2936 I know, it was a joke
@@goblinuldrogatinsmoala o Haha karnsteins are sexy
Nobody knows how to make psychological horror anymore...
False. Go watch a playthrough of P.T without commentary
The babadook?
wrong, they just dont make them for american audiences, because we have the mental capacity of most nations pre schoolers.
Could you name some good recent psychological horrors outside the States? Not being confrontational, I'm legitimately interested. Babadook from Australia was great but I don't know any others. I watch a lot of foreign movies but not many new ones.
PT had jump scares galore.
Images that talk: Talkies
Images that move: Movies!
🤯 I never realized that. Wow. I've heard if talkies, but movies! Of course, so obvious now.
I'm a big horror movie fan and I think that it's a shame that ALL these films are gone. I love Nosferatu, the silent version of Phantom of the Opera as well as the Cabinet of Doctor Caligari. As a matter of fact, the video for the Rainbow song "I Can't Let You Go" is based on the last film. Many of the children's shows that I watched growing up likewise are lost because nobody thought about preserving them so they were taped over. I get SAD when I think about it.
It's so depressing to know we will likely never see these movies... :(.
you know you are watching Cinemassacre when King Kong is labeled a "Horror Movie"...
Doctor Maxi well it was back then
Many people still label it horror. I can understand that given the terrifying plot (especially the discarded part where the giant fucking centipedes descended upon the film crew!) the movie can be seen as horror but it is really in the action-adventure genre.
King Kong is considered a horror movie, both books I own on horror movies 'The Aurum Film Encyclopedia: Horror' and 'Terror On Tape' list it as such.
It could be listed as an action-adventure movie, but that's partly because horror is one of the broadest genres ever: Action-adventure horror, sci-fi horror,
horror-comedy, and so forth..heck there is even Western horror.
I just have a very narrow view of what should be called a "Horror" movie. I think movies like "The Exorcist" or "The Grudge/The Ring" would fit my definition of "Horror". When it comes to very old stuff like "King Kong" or very new movies like "Saw" then I would rather use the classification "Action Adventure" or "Thriller with Gore Elements". After all, movies are subject to the time they were made in and previously "Grimms Fairytales" could have been classified as horror once... times change!
Even though I don't really agree with your definition I fully see where you coming from.
What I see is that for you horror is mostly about a frightening supernatural something
beyond what we'd consider biologically possible. (Is that correct ?)
London After Midnight, Dracula’s Death, Life Without a Soul and 1916’s Phantom of the Opera are the lost films that I really want to see.
The image of Lon Chaney’s London After Midnight character is so iconic (it’s seems like I even remember seeing it as an action figure once?), I never realized the film itself is lost. That’s crazy and such a shame!
From my understanding, the Hungarian Dracula movie you mentioned was turned into a novel around the same time. I don't know how easy that is to find, but I doubt it's impossible to like it is with the books as book collecting was taken way more seriously.
It's sad, how many movies are missing. Especially the early ones. Good or bad, they're history. Even more, good or bad, they could be a learning device for novices, looking for a "fresh" take on videos.
There is a replica of Lon Chaney's famous makeup case on sale now on eBay.
Häxan, Frankenstein, The Cabinet of Dr Caligari, Nosferatu...
They exist.
I have the DVDs
If London After Midnight is still around it will be interesting to see if it turns up in 2027 for the 100 year anniversary. It's what I would do.
It truly is amazing that there are people out there who do have an interest in these types of films. I keep hearing that without the blood and guts the movies are merely mislabeled as horror. Even though I'm a form believer that blood and gore has its place in horror there is so much more to it, which a lot of people today don't give proper credit to. Just acknowledging that horror is older than most people think is quite refreshing to hear.
1:04 I Fear No Man…But That…..It Scares Me.
Wow all these years looking at London After Dark and I jusy now am realizing it stars Ozzy Osbourne!
There's a lot of cool lost kaiju film in Japan
Nosferatu
Phantom of the Opera
The Vampyre
Are my favorite silent films.
THE BATMAN Vampyr.
9 years after original upload and im just now watching lol. Who’s ready for halloween!?
3:35 that looks like the mom from Richie Rich
I could listen to James talk about movies forever
Sadly for film stock this old, chances are if they haven't been found and preserved by now they're never going to be, and even if they are they're not going to be in a salvageable state. The only chance might be if a collector somewhere secretly has a copy they've been preserving or made backup copies of, but that's also very unlikely.
This is really cool. James should teach film history :>
The Spirit of Forrest J Ackerman lives
You can hear how much of a fan he is of movies in how he describes everything. Love hearing people talk about their passions. Keep up the good work dude!
I've always said that silent horror films are way more scarier with the way they filmed it and all of the props and the fact that it's left up to your imagination which is way more scared than anything that you could actually put. Modern Day horror films lack story and really anything good there just all blood guts and crap.
You mention the movie Vampire about a snake woman, just to let you know, Bram Stoker the Author of Dracula also wrote a book called The Lair of The White Worm which has a snake woman. Maybe they where connected.
Love this video. I hope some of these one day show up!!
London after midnight character looks like a cowboy bebop enemy in an episode idk if they made a reference to it or what someone let me know🤙🏻🤘🏻
10:56 on this picture he looks very nice
I hope someone who knows bran stokers Dracula...the actual novel that is could ponder this with me. He states that it looks more like a mental institution for the one original Dracula movie. Now if it is in fact just a picture of an actual scene then couldn’t it be a picture of reinheld I believe his name was. The man who was becoming vampire and they kept him in an insane asylum. Is that possibly what the scene was. Interesting. Suprised he didn’t think of that
*Renfield
When are you going to get around to talking about old zombie films??
liquidpig He has done videos on White Zombie and all 5 of Romero's zombie films. What films are you talking about?
31FilmTalk well I was thinking about the oldest zombie flicks, starting with WHITE ZOMBIE, and then the ones through the 30s and 40s, like I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE, REVENGE OF THE ZOMBIES, REVOLT OF THE ZOMBIES, KING OF THE ZOMBIES, etc
I Walked With a Zombie is groundbreaking. Really surprised he hasn't talked about it, as it is one of the earliest zombie films.
I could of sworn he had a video doing just that but maybe I'm remembering someone else's video.
I can't recall but please let me know if you find a Cinemassacre review of it. I'm pretty sure he did a review of White Zombie a long time ago.
The easiest thing is to go back in a time machine to where these movies were playing and get a good cam rip.
This remains to this day one of my favourite Cinemassacre videos. So fascinating.
That Russian Dracula would have been created 3 years after the communist revolution. If it was produced in a time of so much change than it makes since that it was lost because of everything that was taking place at the time.
The amount of information you provide, we all appreciate it. That is A LOT of research and double research
Also, the majority of the movies listed about "vampires" in this video are not about the supernatural creature, but women who exploit men financially.
I really want to see Lon Chaney's lost film! He was amazing in London!
What movie is being depicted in 1:18? It's a silent film, and I can't seem to locate where this clip is from.
Haxan I believe
the vampire 'snake woman' is probably about a Lamia - a vampire snake woman - see The Lamia - arguably the most beautiful song in The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - by Genesis
The dude from London after midnight looks kinda like svengoolie if anyone knows who that is.
yep, from chicago!
@@TheBombShhh I thought he looked like The Penguin
When he was talking about The Cat Creeps and The Cat and the Canary, he forgot to mention the 1939 sound film with Bob Hope. That's my favorite version of that movie.
Japanese King Kong looks like the creatures from "War of The Gargantuas"
Hello James, I don't know if you'll ever see this but can you review Razorback from 1984.
Ho man, if one day i have a time machine, i would go to take the movies and bring them back to our time, before they destroy them. It's a part of movie history that was just destroyed ! It's such a shame ...
'Drakula's Death' is based on a c19 novella of the same name that has been translated into English by the British Library for their 'Gothic Horror' exhibit a few years ago (they published a lot of translations) the twist is that Drakula here is both Vlad the Impaler and Count Drakula.
Side note: Karl Freund. His career was pretty much over until Desi Arnaz hired him in the 1950s for a pittance to develop the three camera technique used with "I Love Lucy", which became the standard of television production.
If I had a time machine I would go back in time and tell people who handled these films to guard it with their life and find a way to share it with the public 100 years later
Tell doc and marty I'm from the future